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Now that the dust has settled,
was hiring Sana a mistake?

>> No.21976113

you subhuman can't you stop making bait thread out of my daughter huh?

>> No.21976118
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21976118

fulgur was right

>> No.21976124

>get culled twice (70k)
>stream 3 times a month
it's over..

>> No.21976171

>>21976062
Jesas, this isn't even funny
1 week vs like what 7 months?

>> No.21976257

>>21976062
is being black that big of a debuff?

>> No.21976297

>>21976062
The abbo fears the Indog

>> No.21976317

>>21976062
Ngl I was expecting zeta to have the highest sub since she has the best English. Is kobo just much better or is it just debut buff subs?

>> No.21976331

>>21976062
Out of all the people that auditioned they couldn't find a another artist with more enthusiasm?

>> No.21976334

>>21976317
Kobe is very popular with Indogs
That's it

>> No.21976338

Yes.
Next thread.

>> No.21976359

Council was a mistake

>> No.21976374

>>21976317
Kobo had one of the best debuts in all of Hololive. She really put a lot of effort into her first impression.

>> No.21976411

>>21976062
No, Cover enabling her to stream little is the mistake.

>> No.21976436

>>21976317
Kobo has a tiny kobocunny

>> No.21976441

>le numbers
a 2view with 1% of sanas subs that loves streaming is infinitely more successful

>> No.21976515

>numbers
>council get culled twice
>holoid didn't get culled at all
Reine is really that powerful

>> No.21976521

I'm still hoping she comes back and starts streaming regularly. Imagine if she stuck to it and a year from now started hitting big #s it'd be one of the great comeback stories

>> No.21976536

>>21976113
are you the same guy that keep calling moona "my daughter" too? just wondering.

>> No.21976547

>>21976062
Her dog died please be considerate

>> No.21976583

>>21976062
Sana is fucking waste of EN slot

>> No.21976589

>>21976257
yeah but in this case its because she doesnt fucking streams

>> No.21976620

>>21976257
Horrid face design, even retards with half a brain here made edits that were way better.

Fucking aussie accent too lmao

>> No.21976867

>>21976317
kobo captured the indog and korean markets

>> No.21977429

>>21976062
In all honesty if we're going for a long term Oishi Kobo is better at least she doesn't have a weak immune system like Vestia

>> No.21977477

>>21976515
the jews fear the indog

>> No.21977486

>>21976536
No.

>> No.21977491

>>21976867
zeta too, got the korean audience, even more with quite a lot gosling.

>> No.21977521

>>21976583
>t.En reject

>> No.21977529

>>21976062
She never even deserved that many. Connor was right.

>> No.21977546

Sana is immediately fired.
Does this improve Hololive for you?
Does this make you happier?

>> No.21977579

>>21977546
i dunno, i feel like it'd be worse for their image if they fired her for underperforming

>> No.21977745

You keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth.

>> No.21977771

>>21976062
Sana is a shit streamer and objectively puts no effort into being a Holo

>> No.21977783

>>21976317
She appeals to degenerate pedophiles.

>> No.21977797

>>21976062
I was kinda mad that vestia was so much higher than kobo - good that it's not the case anymore.
Now only the painguin hag above zeta and i am a happy man

>> No.21977828

>>21976062
Kobo is a perfect Pedophile bait

>> No.21977834

>>21977546
Nah they should fire Ina for suggesting they hire Sana and wasting a slot to someone that doesn't stream.

>> No.21977939

>>21977546
It's not even a question. Yes, it will really improve HoloEN. They really need to enforce 3x streams a week.

>> No.21978015

>>21977429
Totally agree

>> No.21978268

>>21977546
maybe, because of Sana, it's hard to be council fan, she's a deadweight

>> No.21978278

>>21976257
I'm conflicted on this if only because the twitter mob took up the "le blackface" stance even though Sana would actually be with that mob, even though IRL she sorta comes close to her avatar
>>21976297
She ain't abbo though, never met one that was never a tech retarded drunk that and I got spoiled by those "reveal" videos, another mixed SEA
>>21976331
She could have been aussie time slot Ina but fucking wasted that, people would have loved her for that
>>21976620
>not liking the aussie accent
Hers is the least sexy I've heard but aussie accents are amazing, even bae despite being a chink

>> No.21978334

>>21976062
Really gotta wonder... who got passed over in favor of Sana...

>> No.21978371

>>21977429
Oishi fag..Rushia

>> No.21978497

>>21976062
It is going to be hilarious when we get EN3 and find out Sana was picked for EN2 over half of them.

>> No.21979044

I think she has a cute voice.
Never see her in anything though.

>> No.21979148

>>21976257
It's a debuff but not "lose to indogs within a week" tier. Sana simply doesn't stream, and when she does it tends to be garbage like pokemon marathons or astrology or whatever.

>> No.21979172
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>>21976062
As a holobro, I apologize to Covid Man; he was right after all.

>> No.21979184

>>21978268
This.
I kind of like the other 4, even Kronii to my surprise because I hate that kind of personality irl.

>> No.21979221

>>21976062
Yes

>> No.21979285

Council didn't do as well as they expected

>> No.21979304

>>21979172
t. Fungus. Don't shittalk your wife.

>> No.21979455

a rising tide lifts all ships.

only like a year ago literally all of the ID crew were lower than Sana is now. it literally doesn't matter. she'll hit a million eventually.

>> No.21979554

>>21977546
BEEG YES
big jokes! haha get it?

>> No.21979573
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>>21976062
The only mistakes are drama magnets, Sana create no drama, not streaming isn't a drama.
>b-but I have nothing to watch
Then do your reps, learn japanese and watch Koyori.

>> No.21979607

>>21976062
Kobo defeated zeta already? Damn...

>> No.21979609

>>21978278
Bae sounds like a bogan and I want to fuck her in the tray of my XH Falcon

>> No.21979642

>>21979285
It's an all out war

>> No.21979702

>>21977546
Yes but make it sana and Kronii also.

>> No.21979743

>>21976062
they hire her just to make (you) seethe.

>> No.21979768

>>21976113
i want to FUCK your daughter and cover her FAT tits in jizz

>> No.21979841

>>21976257
>black debuff
>accent debuf
>not streaming when the algorithm is doing its magic debuff
>no streams even after that debuff
Also her "dog" got a significant debuff from life

>> No.21980020

>>21977546
>Improve
Well she rarely shows up at all, the only downside is less planet sized titty porn I guess
>Happier
Bro I'm barely aware most of council exist outside of Bae and Fauna

>> No.21980191

The mistake was hiring that pako faggot to draw her face. If it wasn't that horrible Sana would've performed more decently. Literally nobody likes it.

>> No.21980255

>>21980020

Definitely the quality picks.

Fauna chill as fuck to listen to while playing games or doing stuff. Fuck I listened to her rank fruit and vegetables for nearly 2 hours while I wrote some shitty documents up.

Her Karaoke though... She has a ways to go and probably shouldn't stray from the cutesy soft spoken type of stuff Okayu does or that they have been throwing her in the collabs they have been doing..

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21980257

Pic related to put things in perspective, dead dog break was in mid-October. Lack of streaming later on didn't help but this path was set before then.

>> No.21980316

>>21980255
I can't stand the karaoke lol, it's actually painful

>> No.21980408

>>21980257
Wow, the dog break didn't make any substantial change. Is it really down to her tan?

>> No.21980459

>>21980408
don't forget her accent debuff. it sounds like she has something in her mouth everytime she speaks

>> No.21980477

>>21976062
>hires someone to stream
>doesn't stream
I like her, but come on.

>> No.21980538

>>21980257
fauna graph and bae graph had some steamy hot clingy sex

>> No.21980539
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>>21980459
watermelon

>> No.21980654

>>21980459
i have to strain to understand what she's saying in group collabs and miss some stuff too because she never bothers to enunciate
i think the other girls have that problem with her too but don't outright say anything(look at her recent mario kart for examples of when she says something and the other party doesn't understand)

>> No.21980685

>>21977546
Fired ina before se have another sana

>> No.21980715

>>21980654
>tfw lowland scots
>tfw speak English with a thick scots drawl
>tfw get sent to work events and have to speak to posh English guys in the same comapny
>tfw repeat myself 3 or 4 times in my best standard english and they just go "haha yeah" and walk away
Having an accent is suffering

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>>21980257
God, that cull was fucking retarded

>> No.21980812

>>21980715
yea accent is pain but there's things you can do like speak slower and enunciate that she doesn't bother to do most of the time so it's hard unless you're active listening, she's not good leave on in the background and do something else material

>> No.21980924

>>21980257
dead dog wasn't the killer but it certainly didn't help her recovery in a crucial time. when she came back she did a bunch of hard to digest marathon pokemon streams. she also took more time off even after that so there was never a chance for fans to discover her

>> No.21981017

>>21976062
Hiring all of EN 2 was a mistake honestly.

>> No.21981068

>>21976317
All 3 of them are incredibly boring but Kobo is the least boring of the 3.

>> No.21981141

>>21981068

Kobo had a fantastic debut planned and has many talents that are good enough to put on show.

Indomelia Watson and The Penguin however..

>> No.21981192

>>21981068
Keep my autistic penguin out of this numberfag bs

>> No.21981214
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>>21981192
no

>> No.21981236

>>21979573
somewhat based for going in a nonsense tangent to shill your oshi

>> No.21981462

>>21979554
It's sad seeing her still in debut mode

>> No.21981512

>>21981068
I just want Yasuda's daughter to do well.

>> No.21981515

>>21976062
after the failure called Sana, i hope Cover will be more selectiive recruiting talent via nepotism

>> No.21981535

>>21977939
Holobronies unironically want a black company.

>> No.21981580

>>21976062
Council nepotism in shambles
NijiEN nepotism thriving
Thank you Elira

>> No.21981622

>>21981141
indomelia watson. that's new. I thought she was grey lamy or silver fauna.

>> No.21981637

>>21981535
Streaming something random for an hour three times a week is far from a black company.

>> No.21981664

>>21981068
I watch the Penguin atm, and she's doing fine tho.

>> No.21981666

>>21981515
EN nepotism*

JP nepotism is based.

>> No.21981674

>>21980257
Jesus, kronii powered straight through the cull

>> No.21981680

>>21976317
Kobo is much better, Zeta is like a boring Chloe, one week after debut Zeta had like 40k more subs due to sex voice and model, now people are just bored of her. In their latest collab, Kobo had twice the ccv Zeta had.

>> No.21981684

>>21977546
Yes, because then we can collectively forget her and move on.

Maybe slide Irys over to fill out the gen.

>> No.21981775

>>21981680
for indog, Kobo is just genuinely interesting. She nailed what indog's market wants for a streamer, which is a toxic kusogaki streamer

>> No.21981806

>>21976317
Zeta has a boyfriend. That's why people left her.

>> No.21981807

>>21976317
You guys should start to realize that the ID market is not what it used to be, the ID audiences keeps growing and in a fast pace since early this year.

Don't be surprised if the ID only vtubers are going to surpass JP and EN vtubers in the next few years.
ID market is starting to wake up and the potential is no joke, you people will understand soon enough why there is a Holo ID but not Holo (insert your country or language here).

>> No.21981849

>>21976062
Stop it, Flip. Don't use ID for your shit bait.

>> No.21981961

>21981807
stop it anon

>> No.21981974

>>21976317
Pandering the oversea market isn't a good strats after all.

>> No.21982373

>>21976317
No, but Zeta is probably the new IDs SC queen

>> No.21982395

stub:no /How can we save/i; boards:vt
stub:no /How do we save/i; boards:vt
stub:no /How do we get/i; boards:vt
stub:no /What went wrong/i; boards:vt
stub:no /now that the dust has settled/i; boards:vt
stub:no /We can all agree that/i; boards:vt
stub:no /can we all agree/i; boards:vt
stub:no /what went wrong/i; boards:vt
stub:no /what's the verdict/i; boards:vt
stub:no /flop/i; boards:vt
stub:no /Why did she do it?/i; boards:vt

>iPhone filenames (OP)
op:only; /[\w]{8}-[\w]{4}-[\w]{4}-[\w]{4}-[\w]{12}.*/i; boards:vt

>> No.21982546

>>21976317
because kobo doesn't speak english, contrary to /vt/'s narrative indonesian vtubers including HoloID are expected to speak indonesian by the indonesian people. why should we watch them if they just going to speak english 100% of the time like reine?

>> No.21982593

>>21980191
Sana's personality is not bad but not interesting either. There was no saving her.

>> No.21982610

>>21980538
Imagine fauna and bae having steamy hot clingy sex after playing resident evil

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>>21976317
she definitely have the highest sc

>> No.21982686

>>21976062
Now that the dust has settled, are you retarded?

>> No.21982716

>>21982546
wtf is this bullshit, Kobo is popular because she's cute and talented, not because of "le Indonesian market", even EOPs like me love to hang out just to hear her broken English and random noises.

>> No.21982792
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21982792

Mogs all Holo ID.
She's the Queen of ID.

>> No.21982853

>>21982716
surprise, /vt/ doesn't watch stream anon they only circlejerk on their numbers, kobo speaks 40% broken English in her solo streams, but ofc shitposter didn't know this.

>> No.21982868

>>21982792
>Queen
yeah, drama queen

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>>21976062
She should stream more desu or at least make short YouTube videos(Old school style)

>> No.21983135

>>21976062
Yes.
I followed her artist roommate long before Sana debut and absolutely love her cute art style. Yet I can say with certainty that Sana was a bad nepotism hire.

Ironically, if Sana debuted as a mama for another holomem, she would have been absolutely loved here. She would have more freedom to stream whatever she wants and her shitposting humor would shine even more. Her erratic streaming schedule wouldn't be a problem, since artist mamas are not expected to stream regularly.

>> No.21983170

>>21982792
this indo girl earns as much as ollie without getting her money cut by cover.

>> No.21983202

>>21982395
Now, how do I add this to my filters? I'm tech-illiterate

>> No.21983218

>>21982868
You can't deny that her live views and donation are greater than Holo ID. Moreover, she's a better singer than Moona judging by her villain cover.

>> No.21983224

>>21983170
>proof
>my ass

>> No.21983260

>>21976171
To be fair in 1 week they streamed almost as much as Sana

>> No.21983261

>>21983224
>Replying to 2views Shiller

>> No.21983287

>>21976113
Imagine having a daughter who is so lazy she can't even make a career out of camwhoring.

>> No.21983302

>>21983261
Her latest stream peak at 3k, faggot.

>> No.21983328

>>21983302
yeah and moona is 9k cry about it

>> No.21983351

>>21981141
Why are you comparing Zeta to Watson, they seem nothing alike.

>> No.21983359

>>21983328
We're talking about Ollie here

>> No.21983369

>>21983328
Wtf do you mean? Her Sims stream peaked only at 2.7k.

>> No.21983368

>>21983302
didn't ask

>> No.21983384

>>21982792
She looks like Moona, I want her and Moons to sandwich my face between their asses after they ate just one too many burritos.

>> No.21983400

>>21983328
Most of them are there for Kobo honestly

>> No.21983404

>>21976317
kobo is going to the big leagues.

>> No.21983445

>>21981807
I know that indogs are overproud nationalist but holy fuck

>> No.21983453

>>21976317
Zeta : SC
Kobo : CCV

>> No.21983469

>>21980408
I think so. She was in last place even before debut and people gave her a chance.

>> No.21983493

>>21983302
>handcams stream,
yeah

>> No.21983576

Indo women are dumb, mildly pretty, smell nice and you can fuck them like you want to hurt them, change my mind.

>> No.21983608

>>21983576
most based post ITT

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>>21982792

>> No.21983961

>>21983493
Doesn't matter. She's better than your holo ID, cunt.

>> No.21983968

This is the rrat the voices in my head are telling me:
>already in distant last place before debut
>lower motivation out of the gate
>her unique streams are received poorly
>motivation down more
>my dog died let's go, takes a break for a month
>her genmates literally have twice as many subscribers by the time she comes back
>there is no doubt that she is the runt of the litter at this point and there's realistically no way to catch up
>streams less and less because she already sees herself as a failure
>motivation approaching rock bottom
>works more and more on roommate stuff where she has significantly higher success than her streaming as Sana

It's kind of a vicious loop where you start off badly, so your incentive to stream goes down, which makes you get even less viewers, so you take a break to do other stuff, and when you come back even more of your viewers left, etc. Maybe it turns out she didn't enjoy streaming as much as she expected, but I think this repeated cycle of decline has just taken whatever fun there was out of her. I expect she just won't renew her contract and go back to where she previously found success full time.

>> No.21984061

>>21983968
My rrat: she made a bet with Mori that she shows that Connor was wrong and holos do need talents to be successful and popular, it's not just brand recognition.

>> No.21984129

>>21982792
lets be real, you retards only care about her numbers

>> No.21984185

>>21983961
>still no proof about her gaining more than the holos
LOL

>> No.21984199

>>21984129
She's entertaning unlike the bland Holo ID. She even cares about her fans and give them attention unlike the retards in Holo ID.

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21984230

>>21983961
SUCCES BREED JEALOUSY

>> No.21984240

>>21984185
Seethe

>> No.21984261

>>21983968
This is too realistic to be a rrat

>> No.21984271

>>21984199
Entertaining for coomer, dramafag, and retard like you XD

>> No.21984279

>>21984230
Yeah. That's why holo ID fags here are jealous of Mythia.

>> No.21984308

>>21984279
literally who that nobody gave a shit RUMAO.

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i don't give a shit about numbers, now stop using my new ID gals as bait you niggers

>> No.21984332

>>21984308
Those replies said otherwise tho.
LMAO

>> No.21984359

>indie nigger seething about his irrelevant whore.
you love to see this

>> No.21984383

What pisses me off the most about this situation is that Sana just dosent fucking stream. For fucks sake if she just streamed she could still turn this around but instead she killed her dog, back and carrer

>> No.21984479

>>21984359
and one retard keep replying to his bullshit.

>> No.21984482

>>21984383
>For fucks sake if she just streamed she could still turn this around
Let's say you had 100% control of how often and what she streams. How would you turn it around?

>> No.21984557

>>21982792
*Cucks you in valentine's day*

>> No.21984584

>>21984557
Like Zeta did? Hell, it's not even valentine yet.

>> No.21984628

>>21984584
no, but as the purple whore did in valentine's.

>> No.21984646

>>21981807
Okay but do they have money for sc though?
If it’s anything like kpop, the seadogs can only ever stream and schizo post on various social media networks, meanwhile they barely ever purchase anything and all the real money comes from China, Korea, Japan, and the west.
They’ll also ruin the fandom. Seafags are the worst, just genuinely awful people. They turn any space they have a large enough presence in into a cesspool.

>> No.21984671

>>21984557
Indies and non-holo corpos are not catering to the turbo incel unicorns.

>> No.21984715

>>21984671
more like Indies and non-holo corpos catering to cucks.
lol

>> No.21984773

>>21984646
>but do they have money
the fujo does

>> No.21984805

>>21984646
>but do they have money for sc though
no, they don't... they use Streamlabs

>> No.21984844

>>21984805
Any vtuber will suck you off if you use streamlabs instead of yt SC.

>> No.21984870

>>21984628
Did you mean Moona?

>> No.21984929

>>21984482
Not OP but
>play something else than shit nintendo games for kids
>make art streams

That's it, she is such a good artist I don't understand why she refueses to make art streams, at this point even moom is more related to art among the council

>> No.21984968

>>21984844
most vtubers hide Streamlabs dono values though which makes it hard to numberfag

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21984973

>>21976317
She sings well and is pretty funny if you understand the indo language
t.someone who studied the indo language because of Kobo

>> No.21985054

>>21984584
>>21699420
>>21699500

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21985120

>>21976062
The Sana killer

>> No.21985125

>>21977939
>>21981535
Cover should just disable her membership until she can regularly stream, it's not like she'd suddenly be poor anyways because she's still making chink gacha money.

>> No.21985286

>>21976317
It mirrors the Chloe La+ situation in all but subs.
Zeta / Chloe lower ccv higher income, though Chloe has more subs.
Kobo / La+ more ccv less income though Kobo has more subs.
Anyone in ID that can speak good English is middle to upper class typically. So Zeta pandering to EN speakers more gets her the money.
Kobo speaking strictly ID and very broken English filters EN viewers overseas and attracts the lower class poor ID that won't donate.

>> No.21985304

>>21982792
I can't believe there are people who bite such a weak bait like this. LOL

>> No.21985346

>>21981535
>A company that requires you to do your job is a black company
Ogey

>> No.21985440

So Fulgur was right this whole time???

>> No.21985582

>>21983369
>The Sims
Exactly

>> No.21985715

>>21976257
Being brown is the least of Sana's issues.

>> No.21985759

>>21985304
possible samefagging to shill her. Alas her content isn't that great overall

>> No.21985809

>>21979172
Chungus I kneel...

>> No.21985880

>starts streaming Kirby
>SC money has significantly gone down
Good

>> No.21985911

>>21976257
ir is not so much the blacked skincolor
it is the blacked mindset of not wanting to work but still expecting handouts

>> No.21986042

they could have hired real talents like selen or rosemi
instead they went with the nepotism hire
yikes

>> No.21986058
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21986058

No probably not, she still makes them money. What would the detriment of hiring her be? It's not as though Cover sinks a lot of money into their models and tech so she was probably profitable for them in the first few months.

>> No.21986169

>>21986058
This is why they don't stop her membership and why cover is a black company.

>> No.21986271

>>21982792
literally who?

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>>21983218
>>21983170
>>21983961
proof it, fag

>> No.21986906

>>21976317
Kobo is one of the funniest and most clover holos, the catch, is all in ID, her indo meme game goes as hard as Gura's, but she never comes close to it in english,some of the words she uses havebeen trending in indonesia, and that's about it, the moment the indo hype is over, she will go back to the crawl that all other vtubers that stream mostly in ID face.

>> No.21987006

>>21986693
>and the biggest dumbfuck award goes to...

>> No.21987193

>>21983260
Sana streamed a lot before she went on her first break. Was probably 2nd or 3rd in Council after Bae.

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>>21987006
here i made it easier for you to understand, faggot.

>> No.21987292

>>21987235
>first one shows 0
>now it jumped to 3k
A few more turns of your vile kike lies and we'll see the thruth.

>> No.21987367

>>21987292
then PROVE it.
is that too hard for you to simply screenshot something out of your pc or phone?

>> No.21987377

>>21987235
You realize that Risu receives the vast majority of her donations through streamlabs right?
There's 1 guy that has donated more than 10K to her through streamlabs alone.

>> No.21987403

>>21982637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99tZQ8XtGM

>> No.21987430

>>21987367
Look at how triggered the holobronie is when "NOOMBERS ARE NOT SO GOOD"

>> No.21987478

>>21987377
yeah, that IS the point. even without streamlabs (the main platform) and local dono platform, risu BLOWS that dramaqueen the fuck out.
>>21987430
>le troll
ok fag you can't even defend your oshi.

>> No.21987518

>>21987478
cute seethe

>> No.21988679

>>21976062
Nah. Realistically, she still earns them money even if she isn't a top earner.
Her lack of streaming and absences have hurt her growth, but I feel she doesn't care too much.

>> No.21988856

>>21986058
it's called opportunity cost
Instead of Sana they could hire someone who can actually stream and she would bring them way more money

>> No.21988930

>>21988856
That's why the hire new gens you spastic

>> No.21989012

>>21988930
But now Rosemi is already employed by nijisanji

>> No.21989117

>>21976062
>dust
>ever settling
>also, shitting on sana
>>>/trash/
>>21976257
>being black
>tans do not exist
>>>/out/
>>21976359
(you)'re a mistake
>>21977546
>firing a good talent for no reason
>this in any way being a good thing
why do faggots like you exist. now, if you said something about firing the clockbitch, I'd almost thing you weren't just wasting board space.
>>21977771
how does it feel to be objectively wrong?
>>21977834
>continuing to try to imply that sana didn't pass her own application because you hate her and how dare people have friends
kys
>waaah she doesn't streeeeeams
certainly seems to be streaming. cope harder, then die.
>>21977939
>downgrading holoEN would improve it
why are you retarded. stop wasting oxygen
>>21978268
no, she isn't.
>>21978334
nobody worth mentioning.
>>21978278
take your meds.
>>21979841
>black [removal of buffs]
isn't black, and what buffs are being removed exactly?
>accent [removal of buffs]
there's nothing wrong with her accent, get some taste. and what buffs are being removed
>not streaming enough for me waaaaaaaah
company with all these talents and you seriously can't find anyone else to watch when one isn't live? just fucking off yourself then.
>>21980020
>the only downside is losing a good, entertaining, likeable streamer because some faggot on a mongolian basketweaving forum is mad that he doesn't get to watch her constantly despite insisting he hates her
???????
>>21980191
the mistake was giving you an internet connection.
>>21980255
fauna has a great voice, it's a shame she almost never plays anything interesting. I want to like her but 98% of her content gives me no reason to tune in.
>>21980257
>>21980408
>>21980924
>REEEE I AM STILL MAD THAT SHE CARED ABOUT ANOTHER LIVING CREATURE THAT HAD BEEN PART OF THE MAJORITY OF HER LIFE REEEEE
you should go meet the dog.
>>21980477
>AAAAH SHE ISN'T WORKING ENOUGH FOR ME AAAAAAA
>>>/trash/
>>21980459
no, she doesn't. clean your ears, you troglodyte.
>>21980654
maybe if you cleaned your goddamned ears you could hear her.
>>21981535
>b-b-broniiiiiies
no horsefuckers involved. why are you so obsessed with horsefuckers?
also, it's not hololive fans who keep spouting this shit, it's just the usual /vt/ faggots that want to have something to bitch about.
>>21981637
>>21985346
(you) insist that cover is a black company whenever they ask the talents to do anything at all. why in god's name would you stop for that? just look at this: >>21986169 even not pressuring people is something you think is black company material
not one of you cunts would know a black company if you worked for one.
>>21982593
doesn't need saving, she's just fine and you're a faggot.
>>21984061
>my rrat
>rrats that are not bae
>>>/trash/
>>21984383
>REEEE WHY IS SHE NOT 24/7 GRINDING FOR MY AMUSEMENT REEEEE
>>>/trash/
>>21984929
>n-nintendo is f-for kiiiiiids!
you missed /v/ by several boards, faggot. go back.
>>21985125
>cover should just stop making money on this person untill I'm satisfied
seriously, why are you fucking retarded.
>>21985911
>things that aren't going on in any context
meds, faggot.

>> No.21989319

>>21989117
t. Sana

>> No.21990385

>>21989117
Now this is mental illness

>> No.21991050

>>21985286
2bh, I only sub to Chloe for the pixelated tits and pits, never watch her stream or vods

>> No.21991188

>>21977546
yes
yes
but yagoo is too pussy to do it

>> No.21991249

>>21989117
What makes a man turn into this

>> No.21991335

>>21989117
I don't know which side are you, im too lazy to read your post, but please go outside, talk to your friends, or maybe just take a little walk around your neighborhood will help, why do care so much about what people said in a fucking bait thread

>> No.21991418

When are they going to bust out Sana's secret weapon?

gyaru outfit

>> No.21991644

Sana: My dog died, LET'S NOOOOOOOOOOIO

>> No.21991727

Kind of an unfair assessment. Council got the biggest subs culled in hololive like 250~300k while with ID3, I didn't see any or heard a peep about it happening here. Kronii would be at 1 million or close to it if it didn't happen. I'm guessing putting up shorts before you stream protected them since even HoloX had subs culled at that announcement was like less than 24 hours from their debut I think.

>> No.21992179

>>21977546
Absolutely.

>> No.21992776

>>21991727
yeah i think a lot of people forgot they got hit pretty bad

>> No.21992845

>>21991335
>talk to your friends
kek, no one writes like that have a single friend

>> No.21993069

>>21991727
The problem is EN become lazy since Council debuted, if they d
pumped out more content, more chance to get subs back.

>> No.21993337

>>21991727
you can't just add them up like that
people who subbed early are all Hololive fans. If you're interesting, they will just sub again

>> No.21993606

>>21989117
touch grass bro

>> No.21993771

>>21991727
She did get a amount culled, but it's her choices that is to blame. It's not like the culled subs couldn't have just resubscribed.

>> No.21993985

>>21989117
Calm down Chungus

>> No.21993997

Many of Hololive's hiring choices have been really really bad.
Several of them are bad, and many of them are just average at best.

That's why when people say that hololive only hires the best, or that hololive vtubers outclass everyone else, I can only shake my head. It's just completely wrong. Actually you'll find people much better at other companies.

Millie's ASMR is better than Fauna's.
Pomu is like a better version Kiara, that's actually watchable.
Sara Nagare is like Sana, but better in every way, including a better design.

And does Hololive have any singers like Lisa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhmWOL3uiyM

I'm currently watching the cute spider girl, love her so much.

>> No.21994220

>>21976062
A mistake in the sense that they could've hired literally almost anyone else and
gotten a better return on their investment? Sure. It's not that big of a deal, though.
Jealous 2view rage against Sana is so cringe and unrelatable. The viewers can
easily just ignore her along with the likes of Roboco, Mel, and de Gozaru. But
Sana will forever live rent-free in the minds of the 2views.

>> No.21994240

>>21976257
Yes, absolutely. Happened with Flare, happened with Sana. Before they even debuted Sana was the least subbed by FAR. Not even Kiara with her ugly orange McDonalds suit was debuffed this hard design-wise.

Sure Sana did nothing to help matters with her shit content, but the initial debuff was absolutely because people hate brown skin.
I think her current laziness is absolutely a result of her seeing no hope of ever not being worse-than-ID-tier levels of unpopularity.

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>>21982546
Because fuck you, SEAnigger. Your women are MINE now.

>> No.21994432

>>21976515
Probably because Hololive became an MCN since Council's debut, but I do like the Reine rrat.

>> No.21994435

>>21983287
he means Kobo you fricking dumbo

>> No.21994503

>>21993997
wow, the shilled 2views faggot got /#/ shit on. Come back to the thread we miss you.

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2viewnigger and indiefaggot are irrelevant

>> No.21995354

>>21993997
good for you, then

>> No.21995996

>>21989117
all me

>> No.21996072

I didn't even realize Sana was honest-to-god the least subbed member in Hololive. Until ID3 debut, in any case. Too bad nobody likes the Penguin, gonna take a while for her to pass Sana.

>> No.21996073

>>21976257
Genuinely curious, does everyone actually see her as black or is it just a meme? I've always seen her as a tan gyaru.

>> No.21996082

>>21993997
Sana is still better than any nijishit
get out nijibrony

>> No.21996127

>>21996073
That's what she's supposed to be, but I don't think EN normalfags are aware of the archetype. They just see a nigger

>> No.21997439

>>21976317
EOPnigs in shambles

>> No.21997687

>>21996073
These people are fucking retarded anon, first impression was tanned, clear TANNED skin. They said nigger just because they're on 4chan

>> No.21997765

>>21997687
Not to mention everyone ignores IRyS when it comes to skin debuff and her model is even worse received but she never got the youtube cull so it worked out better for her

>> No.21998369

>>21977546
they could literally fire all of council and I wouldn't even notice

>> No.21998604

>>21982395
what does the the stub:no do?

>> No.21998767

SANALIT WILL DEFEND THIS WITH BACK PAIN AND CHINK GACHA PROJECT

>> No.21998856

>>21989117
mucho texo, have a (You) for trying

>> No.21999027

>>21976515
Reine having unlimited power and influence yet seemingly only uses this power to support her friends rather than pushing herself as the face of ID is by far my favourite /vt/ rrat

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>>21980408
>Is it really down to her tan?
Let's look at some /jp/ case studies

>tan skin
Best comparison: Flare
Rest of her Gen: have long gone past the 1m sub mark, with one nearing 2m
And Flare: lagging way behind and has long been overtaken by Gen 5

>sickingly cute voice and personality
Best comparison: Luna
Rest of her Gen: past the 1m sub mark now that Towa has recently hit it
And Luna: lagging way behind and has long been overtaken by Gen 5 (and one of Gen 6)

>tall sexy body
Best comparison: Choco
Rest of her Gen: three past the 1m sub mark, Shion will hit it in the next couple of days
And Choco: lagging way behind and has long been overtaken by Gen 5

But what all four girls share in common is despite lagging behind their genmates in numbers, their fanbases are super loyal and allow them to keep up with money donations.

And this is all if you're going full retard numberfag and not looking outside the Hololive bubble to see that even the smallest Holo girls are mogging 98% of other vtubers.

>> No.22001279

>>22000316
all of them still stream more than Sana though

>> No.22002268

>>21989117
I only saw /thrash/ and /out/ and you belong in both of these. Just like your irrelevant oshi

>> No.22002442

>>22000316
Sana is much closer in body type to Coco than Choco, anon. But I agree with the rest of your points.

>>22001279
That makes it worse because it means it doesn't matter how hard you work. You are just at the mercy of youtube from the moment you debut.

>> No.22002930

>>21982792
Who ?

>> No.22003036

>>21987518
This nigga can only said two words lmao. Can't even have an argument. Ur mom probably crying in heaven right now

>> No.22003688

>>21989117
seethe

>> No.22004198

>>21996073
For amerimutts, anyone who is not white (Brits, germs and nordcucks) are blacks, they also believe that if you can get tanned you are not white, so you need to have a pig-like pink skin kek

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Is this what happens when you don't watch vtubers, you just hang around posting shitty bait threads about vtubers who's models you don't like?

>> No.22004653

>>21996127
What puts me off is the face and the hairstyle seriously those dango twintails are horrible

>> No.22005389

>>22004415
this is what happens when vtubers don't stream

>> No.22005513

>>21976062
Without a doubt. YAGOO said willingness to stream is the most important thing when hiring a new holo. She has no desire to stream. Very obvious nepotism hire.

>> No.22005693

>>22005513
Reminder that Omegatroon = AO-Chan = Ina's BF
This is how Ina's friend "coincidentally" made it past the auditions despite a thick straya accent, no talents except drawing, which she doesn't even show on stream (lmao what the fuck)
I hate Sana so much

>> No.22005833

>>22005693
And the horoscope shit. Literally no men, the majority of holo fans, give a single shit about astrology. She could have done something more interesting with the space theme.

>> No.22006053

>>21989117
based, edgy teenagers crying in the replies

>> No.22006441

>>22005833
Especially since she seemed at least vaguely interested in astrophysics based on the Interstellar watchalong

It's like she's physically incapable of being a good streamer

>> No.22008253

>>21977546
No, it wouldn’t. But I know a ton of talented streamers that wish they were in Hololive got pushed aside in favor of Sana. I wonder if she understands how much of a big deal her position is for a lot of people.

>> No.22008380

>>21980654
This is an ESL problem not a Sana problem

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>>21976124
still doing better than Fatgore Obese and his marry band of rejects

>>21989117

>> No.22008692

>>22005389
You didn't care when she was streaming, so why do you care that she isn't?

>> No.22008982

>>21989117
>now, if you said something about firing the clockbitch, I'd almost thing you weren't just wasting board space.
While I know Kronii has no real talent, or at least is easily the very least talented of her genmates, you can't pretend she is somehow not successful as a streamer. unless of course you're just advocating for her to gtfo exclusively because she's an insufferable left-wing troglodyte that might influence others towards her path of faggotry, then you might have a point.

>> No.22013811

>>21983968
That's probably close to the truth and not a rrat. You gotta add more pizazz to your rrats. Maybe throw in that she killed a male stripper.

>> No.22013839

>>21976062
yes

>> No.22015867

>>21980257
Oh no the bolt on titty blacksmith

>> No.22016744

Apologize to Sana now.

>> No.22016995

>>22003036
kys zoomer nigger

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