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>>21849907
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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This is right thread

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

Aqua is Curry Meshi
Redbull
Onion
Omurice
Sushi

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>>21849907
Kek

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>>21849924
Ranni vtuber when? I wanna poison her with selvius's potion

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Current standing for top 3?

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This would have been a 30k stream easily if Suichan got Ange instead of this Toko.

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>>21850238
aqua 42k, gura 40k, peko 27k

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>>21849907
kek

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Don't use bait OPs ffs, move here unless you want the whole thread raided by nijiniggers
>>21850186

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>Top 9 are all female streamers.
What happened to the boys?

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Hololive is just too strong.
NijiEN overlapping with the JP branch killed the latter's momentum.

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>>21850296
No.
Also kys, nijinegro

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Chigusa should stay on the afternoon slot.

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>>21850303
THREE Elden ring streams in this overlap hell. Sheesh.

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>>21850234
blue cunny too strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMRf4cffTC8

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>>21849907
What kind of persecution complex is even OP image?

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>>21850357
Did Nijisanji really lose their permission? I heard nips were talking about it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQbVDqEZ2og
>3D karaoke
It's been a while. But that's a lot of debuff in one stream...

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>>21850261
Strong day for Hololive.
If Towa's gonna stream their scrim later on, it's gonna be a bloodbath.

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>>21850392
Nips are very piss atm

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>>21850392
What do you think anon? She is also multistreaming it to Bilibili with monetization enabled.

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>>21850392
if I'm not mistaken the permission for ER is to stream without SC enabled, some fools in Niji stream with superchat enabled

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>>21850454
Yeah. This is what I heard too.

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>>21850471
That sounds....bad? Like, potentially a lot of deep shit bad.

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Isn't Finana's CCV average only like 1500?

Why is she buying expensive clothes and staying in fancy hotels?

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>>21850490
>Superchat numbers
Also, being bad at budgeting isn't exclusive to poor people.

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>>21850449
Really fucking greedy of them.
To think their fans would crucify Fubuki even though she didn't do anything wrong at all.

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>>21850490
Why did she even put a price on? It’s not like she’s buying streaming equipments.

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>>21850517
Rosemi only has an 1100 CCV average, and she quit her job to stream full time.

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Upcoming stream in 30 minutes. Notably there's a Ayame-Towa collab and Botan-Roboco A Way Out collab. Today might be a very strong day with a tons of 10k streams.

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>>21850490
She's a zoomer who spends everything she earns.

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>>21850490
who? don't recognize her.

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>>21850490
Finana's monthly views is around 3M so she probably gets 10k-20k usd monthly from ad rev sans the anykara cut. Add those super chat and even Finana can definitely afford that lifestyle

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>>21850545
>I don't recognize one of the biggest English vtubers
Yeah ok ignoramus. I guess your opinion is worthless in this discussion

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>>21850413
Only Noel could be considered a buff there. Really curious to see what numbers it will get.

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>>21850449
It's nothingburger anon. Those fans can't do shit.

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>>21850531
welp double standard is a thing these days

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>>21850488
It's probably the chinks who mirrored it but the thing is it was done on their official account on Bilibili.

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>>21850490
who buys a shoe that costs $800
well, except the giga rich people

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>>21850567
hilariously bad bait

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>>21850567
>one of the biggest English vtubers
Are you on a different timeline?

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>>21850557
Yeah I mean you only need 600 viewers to make streaming your full time career.

So finana is legitimately making like $250,000 a year with her streaming job.

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>>21850538
>Ayame-Towa
One POV, so possibly.
>Botan-RBC
Haha no way they'll get 10k, not with that game.

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>Gura actually higher due to EN cull
No but seriously, congrats on Aqua on 42k on a fucking shilling stream.

I think it's safe to say at this point that gen 2 is about on par with Uruha-less gen 3.
Subaru, Aqua, and rare Ayame are powerhouses. Shion gets decent numbers. Choco is the runt, but still gets good numbers on ASMR streams.
Pekora and Marine are the powerhouses. Noel gets decent numbers, especially with the recent ER arc plus ASMR. Flare is the runt, tho still gets better numbers than Choco. And both Pekora and Flare may return to form with a MC arc.
Gen 0 is also no slouch with Miko and Suisei, but is brought down by the others in the "gen".

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>>21850490
Why does NijiEN flex their wealth whole none of HoloEN seem to do it?

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>Pekora got 27k on a piece of shit game
Wait how the fuck did that happen? She was streaming along with Noel and Miko's elden ring streams too.

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>>21850531
>To think their fans would crucify Fubuk
Damn nijinig actually worse than holo anti holyshit

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>>21850391
Hololive dominated the day, virtually no one seethed at them yet the /#/ SEAshitters want to keep making this a console war, it's pathetic

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>>21850490
Those shoes cost under 100, how is she at 1600?

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>>21850596
She's making around $1/4 of a million per year. Despite being one of the lowest tier Nijis.
She makes more than a heart surgeon, one of the top-paying jobs in america.

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>>21850604
>$250,000
Before Anykara's cut and tax cut, yes. How much does she have after that?

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Kobo already caught up to Zeta

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>>21850649
>one of the biggest English vtubers

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>>21850490
All of them are rich anon, it's just that Holomems are super rich.

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>>21850449
I think this is the link of the actual stream. It's the official account of the talent.

https://live.bilibili.com/23465036

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>>21850649
Just say it 250k no need to add the million, she's not on that level yet nijikeks

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Remember that wrestler dude who likes Subaru.
This is the video describe his previous heroic deed, Nip makes this shit fucking hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKsM-Czr22M

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>>21850627
It's funny and Pekora is funny.

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>>21850622
Didn't Kiara flex that 300K in liquid asset ?

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>>21850604
If Finana is making this much why do people doubt that Hololive members are millionaires? So many people grossly underestimate how much they earn

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>>21850622
I think the point is that holofags have completely lost their perspective. They don't seem to realize that anything over 1000 viewers is BIG money. Like....HUGE money. You're raking in the cash if you're anywhere close to 1000 viewers.

Hololive talents are making literally like $5-10 million per year, minimum. Even just off memberships alone they're making several million per year. They're buying fancy cars, diamond rings, private jets. Certainly living in huge mansions.

And you continue to just dump even more money on them, all the time. Just shovel the money on them. "5000 viewer stream? That's pretty low". Lol no it's not. That's like the equivalent of 10 full-time incomes rolling into your bank account.

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>>21850655
around 35%

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>>21850627
To add, this is the second time this happen where Pekora beats elden ring overlaps in her timeslot with a garbage games. Why is her peaks against normal logic lately?

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>>21850700
N-no!
t.finana

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>>21850597
>>21850675
tbf, she may be niji EN, but that's still like top 1% of EN vtubers
which ofc is pretty meaningless in /#/

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>>21850449
Man I just hope From doesn't get pissed enough to actually strike them with DMCA. Nijisanji really doesn't need that kind of thing right now.

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Everyone kneels to Aqua
https://files.catbox.moe/1b0nth.mp4

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>>21850707
>A random people make a wild assumption on the internet
>Instantly believes it
You're not going to go far in your life

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>>21850715
Hey I saw this pasta some threads ago.

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>>21850723
Had HoloEN not exist sure
But that's not where you use the word "one of the"
And what's with the retard massively inflating everyone's income, is this supposed to help her argument

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Not a bad pick although it's pretty basic.

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>>21850655
Immediately 1/3rd of SC to Anycolor and 1/3rd to Yt, and half of ad rev to Anycolor. Let's rough guesstimate and say her take-home is 100k. Even in California that's still about 70k after taxes (approximately 30%)

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>>21850737
For me it's easier to believe they earn more than I assume than less, the amount he has said isn't wild considering past streamers statements about how much they earn

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>>21850707
>Lowest tier niji living a luxurious life
>Highest sub vtuber from holo still shoveling dogshit

people still believe cover isn't a black company? They probably get 70% cut from all revenue.

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>>21850728
Old fag... I can't believe you still around.

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>>21850700
She didn't really flex about it, she just mentionned that she could get one of those visa when talking about going back to japan and people went to check the condition and got that 300K in liquid asset thing. I don't think she even mentionned money

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>>21850724
I just don't want the schizos to come out of the woodwork. I'm a proud holofan but I'd rather the niji schizos be absorbed with their own instead of going mental on everyone else. Us honest, medicated, and well meaning holofans have had enough of them, I'd rather have peace over anything else.

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>>21850753
I think now you realize why the hololive girls never stream. They could legitimately quit streaming now, and never work another day in their lives. They have enough money to retire right now. Mori probably has close to $50 million in the bank

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>>21850538
did Botan become Holo Savior like Pekora lately? 1st Anya and now Rbc

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>>21850717
Cold chicken made some people think she's reclined, that proof among many others show she didn't at all.

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>>21850696
The fucking pancake lmao.

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>>21850752
No I mean, she has to be within top 30, and there's bound to be at least 3000 EN-speaking vtubers, right? So it's an asinine "technically correct" situation

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Nijifags sure love to tell lies

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>>21850842
Merch sales

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>>21850787
Saying I can enter Japan on the rich cunt visa is still a fucking flex dumbarse.
Mori has also said on multiple occasions to not superchat her because she is "well off" already.
Just because they aren't throw out the dollar amount like a retarded fish doesn't mean they aren't flexing

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>>21850842
>>21850860
ads money too
check the Twitch leak to see how much a 1k streamer makes. Quite a lot actually

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>>21850779
Twitch leaks revealed only 80 streamers had over 1M$ payout in a 2 years, period, If you assume constant earning, only 25 of them made 1M$ payout in a single year. And that's not accounting for a corpo taking a cut out of it. And those streamers are hilariously bigger than Finana. It also doesn't account for sponsorship, but I don't think Finana is a sponsorship monster either.

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Speaking to money, the ASMR queen Patra...I mean the REAL one.

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>>21850715
I was in /uuu/ after Fauna's monitor broke and she had to cancel her ASMR stream, her main buff content and the reason she was hired. People in there were legitimately arguing that her just quickly buying a 150USD monitor or having a spare monitor would be an irresponsible expenditure. Meanwhile she makes tens of thousands of dollars a month and she can deduct the cost of the monitor from her taxes. Some people just have no perspective on how much these people make and treat them like they're some average smuck like us who just streams.

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>>21850842
Her superchats are 100k. But Youtube also pays for vod views. And she gets money for merch sales. And don't forget memberships.
If she has 2000 members, that's $120k per year.

Gura makes $2 million per year off her members alone

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>>21850707
she can also earn enough just to live by but feels obligated to waste her money on some dumb bullshit for her faux happiness. You know, just like most Americans

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>>21850752
Oh it's to discourage supporting "millionaires" I guess
Even if it includes Finana who's supposedly loaded

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>>21850800
I'm probably schizoing but even her viewership patter tonight made zero sense. She had a 10k poem which would project it to a 20k stream at best. But even after aqua's funnel came she kept inclining irrationally. It's too irrational it might even look like its botting. /#/ threads just haven't noticed it since she hasn't topped in the leaderboard for awhile but her viewership patters are goofy lately despire the miko overlaps. I really want to see what happens if she streams a prepared strong stream. Maybe after Haachama replies to her content in minecraft.

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>>21850889
>Twitch leaks revealed only 80 streamers had over 1M$ payout in a 2 years
>no sponsorship
>no donation
Literally everyone said the real numbers are way bigger

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>>21850867
>"guys I'm already well off and I make enough money with my music, you don't have to superchat me"
>this bitch is flexing on me
jesus christ the brain damage

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>>21850949
Of course, but if only 25 streamer have a 1M$ payout, those streamer being over 10 to 15 orders of magnitude bigger than Finana, there's no way finana is making 250K a year

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>>21850914
>some average smuck like us
Hey fuck you! I'll have you know I ran a small business into the ground!

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>>21850973
>25 streamer
you literally just said 80

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>>21850964
>"I'll buy a house in the states while also still living in Japan"
Yeah not a flex at all right?

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>>21850898
Patra said she spent 700 000USD on her ASMR.

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>>21850996
80 had a paid out of 1M over 2 years, only 25 had 2M over 2 years, which you cut to 1M over a year. It's in the original post, make an effort.

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>>21851023
Are you aware of what a flex is?

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March finana
SC: $5650.4 ($8,072 - %30 yt)
vod: 1.5m vod views $4k-$6k ($4k-$8k - %30 yt) assuming $4k revenue per 1m views
membership: ~2000 membership $7k (10k - %30 yt) $5 usd default

finana is earning around 17k-20k per month from youtube

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>>21850888
It depends on the content you produce. I remember that Gorgc (15k Dota2 streamer) only made ~20k a month excluding Donation

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>>21850449
>>21850454
These chuubas felt safe doing it because nipple boy only got a slap on the wrist for his YAB

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>>21850632
They always have been.

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>>21850996
You are unable to finish reading a single post.

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>>21851022
and i'm listening from my phone speakers
audiophiles are whales of the highest degree

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>>21849678
>>21849717
Because they can stream at any time they want. Vox and Mysta are europeans, Yugo generally streams at morning. Alban streams between morning and night while Enna just today is doing an earlier stream than her usual.
As for managers, there's at least more than 2 that we know.

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>>21851023
So, if I simply say "I'm going to buy [something expensive]" that means I'm automatically flexing on you? How can you be so retarded?

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>>21850914
The thing that pisses me off is stuff like, how Mori's fans claim she just "doesn't have the money to buy her dream house yet", as if this is some huge sad thing for Mori. Lol like Mori doesn't have a couple million lying around? She could buy that house right now. And even if she couldn't buy it outright, she could certainly finance it. Guys who earn $65,000 a year are able to finance a $1 million house in the suburbs. Just call up the bank, get a loan. It's that easy. Someone with Mori's income could legitimately finance a multi-million dollar 10,000 square foot mansion in the Hamptons if she wanted.

You people have pumped up this vtuber group to such a ludicrous, absurd extreme, it's become ridiculous frankly. Maybe try checking out some of the smaller streamers who are struggling to get by. The entire vtuber industry is sort of dying off right now, because literally nobody is clicking on the channels of the lower view streamers. People who were inspired by Mori, and Ina, and Gura, they're all graduating right now. Because it's been a year and they aren't getting any traction. It's actually sad. Just the insane tribalism that holofags have, they legitimately won't even try another streamer.

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>>21850768
She still has the mental age of a brat so everything she chose are pretty basic...
Although technically it might be better in terms of sale anyway since almost everyone can eat it, as opposed to putting some exotic stuff that not everyone would want to.

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>>21850973
I think Veibae, nyanners and ironmouse were in the 30k-40k a month range. That was before ironmouse's subathon, I'm sure that made her a lot of money.

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>>21850889
As someone who had to do business with a Twitch faggot let me tell you if you can get from 5k to 10k steady streamers and you stream daily you're already loaded, dude bought a 40k$ fucking black lotus on a whim, I'm counting sponsors too, I don't have the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure you can get 10k$ just streaming some shitty game once or twice.
Even 2k to 3k viewers is enough to live comfortably.

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why is the 2view back

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>>21851106
are you a communist?

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>>21850531
Nijiniggers have always been passive aggressive cunts who go after anyone they deem a threat.

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>>21851077
>listening to Patra ASMR on phone speakers
begone you fucking blight upon this planet, the fuck drives you to do something this heretical

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>>21851052
Actual number would be slightly lower since anykara presumably also takes a cut of some size

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>>21851106
Anon... that's the entertainment industry in a nutshell. None of this is unique to the vtuber scene.

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>>21851106
is this the rimjob anon?

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>>21851106
>Maybe try checking out some of the smaller streamers who are struggling to get by.
Care to recommend someone?

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>>21851101
OK so Finana isn't flexing then, got it

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>>21851164
it's the 2view

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>>21850821
I didn’t check their numbers but I saw someone say that even 2views on Twitch were in the top 1% of streamers there because of the sheer number of people streaming to no one at all. It kind of makes me wonder how many 1view and 0view chuubas are on YT.

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>>21851190
I thought they were the same person

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>>21851106
go seethe here 2view >>21850186

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>>21851106
While would I waste my time to search one good chuuba in thousands of 2views when corpos can do it for me ?

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>>21851116
Some of the more exotic stuff might also be stronger in flavor or too fatty for a balanced set too, you gotta have something that's harmonious unless it's a super gimmicky set.

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>>21851202
rimjob anon will always include yagoo on his post

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>>21851161
Not exactly. The videogame industry has an incredibly rich indie scene. And many various levels of minor corporations, major corporations, rogue developers....etc. It's a very rich, thriving industry with lots of cutthroat competition and creativity. That's because gamers aren't tribalistic about a corporate brand (well except Fallout fans). They basically play the games that they enjoy. If that's an Indie game, that's fine with them. It's not like they're completely saturating one specific corporation with an absurd amount of money, to the point that all the indies are going bankrupt.

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>>21851156
true so im guessing around $8k-$10k

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>>21851106
>entire vtuber industry is dying
>whining about vtubers that are supposedly swimming in money
Just say some are earning more than others. Geez. If you talk like that, I won't ever check your 2view channel ever. You sound like a bummer in parties

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>>21851170
Some anon recommended me Azulim months ago in numberthreads and she is great. Her content is unique and chill as fuck. She basically does travel streams through her honda cub She is worth the shot anon.
https://youtu.be/5TCX_F1OArw

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>>21851026
Ok here is an example
This guy whose average CCV is bellow 1000 most of the time. He made 400k in 2 years, doesn't count donations and sponsorships
https://twitchtracker.com/swiftor/statistics
https://twitch.pages.dev/en
I know average CCV is not peak CCV but with the raid feature on Twitch, the peak isn't accurate as well

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>>21851106
2viewchama...
>People who were inspired by Mori, and Ina, and Gura, they're all graduating right now. Because it's been a year and they aren't getting any traction
While sad, for entertainment, besides being, y'know, entertaining, you also need to know how to shill yourself. Also, unless you get a lucky break like Shylily, 3views still make a lot of money, but they need to know how to sell themselves.
If you do it as a hobby, it's fine, but if you want to make it work as a job, treat it like a job.

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>>21851224
I tried going the indie route...
Retired, drama yab, retired, retired...
Sigh, no more. I gave up, I don't have the heart or time to bother anymore, and I have NO interest in grooming either.

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I am disugsted by this raft number.
I can't bear to see it
Don't post em here

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>>21851052
oh thanks for posting the image with the ad from fumi. ive been trying to find out this for months.
Anyone can explain why ads aren't a point of discussion for this thread when we have something like this from fumi?

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YouTube pays very shittily, especially your audience is Asia or SEA, only JP and Korea's views do well views. I know people earned less than 2k dollars for 1M views of the video and sometimes it is under 800 dollars.
Ads are more bullshit if you're streamers. It also depends on the audience again and the type of content the streamers usually do.
Eating 250k per a year is impossible if streams don't have sponsorship or good ads that pay well.

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>>21851045
Yes, to show off one's wealth.
Be it saying I'm going to buy SHOES for $600, or that I can get the liquid assets visa into Japan, or how I'll buy properties in different parts of the world.

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>>21851241
But it's not like that anon.
600 viewers is when you can make streaming your full-time job.

Do you know how many English vtubers, outside of the major corporations, are pulling 600 viewers? Zero. I can think of three that are pulling between 200 and 500. But nobody is that big.

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>>21851252
Apart from your only recommendation coming from this very thread, she does not really look to be suffering apart from that one time her bike broke down. Recommend someone else, i already follow her.

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>>21851252
>indie
Anon she's an oldschool legend of the VTubing world.

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>>21849907
Meanwhile every other general never talks about holo while holo seethes about every other corpo

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>>21851263
How can you shill yourself to such an incredibly tribalistic fanbase as the hololive fanbase? Who legitimately will not watch anything that doesn't have Yagoo's dickprint on it? These are not exactly openminded people anon. These people literally created an entire full-time general thread, just to obsess about their numbers. That's insane.

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>>21851223
Nope you made the bait OP summoning them, you enjoy their posts

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>>21851306
This was posted earlier but go watch this since it's relevant to youtube streaming, they earn a ton more from streams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLO5-IyS5pE

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>>21851359
I Know, but I just like evangelizing her when I have chance since she deserves it.

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>>21851332
>Do you know how many English vtubers, outside of the major corporations, are pulling 600 viewers? Zero
Isn't bao an indie ?

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>>21851281
heres from hajime

in last 28 days
>300k vod views
>$210,803 yen or 1.7k usd

safe to say that 1m vod views = $4k-6k usd

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>>21851372
>Yagoo's dickprint
Stop it, i can't get more hard than this.

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>>21851372
>How can you shill yourself to such an incredibly tribalistic fanbase as the hololive fanbase
You don't. As I said, unless you're either doing it as a hobby or get a lucky break, slow and steady (hehe, jeb) is the way to go.
>Yagoo's dickprint
Oh, it's the rimjob anon.

>>21851229
>>21851202
Case in point.

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>>21851332
Then what are /lig/ playing at?

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>>21851267
Try JP indies, they're still menhera but are more stable than EN indies unless you've been on a really bad streak with indies. Even the indie that I watch that legitimately tried to an hero is still around. Mind you it's not like I don't get you though, indies are legitimately way more tiring to follow.

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>>21851372
You need to do something to begin with instead of shitting up 'le bad tribalistic thread'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851332
What are you on about. I was checking some vtubers on Twitch and a handful were around 500-1k. Also, my point was you can't just simply force people to watch something out of pity or virtue. Holostars is a thing and we have plenty of homobeggars always virtue signalling people to watch them. It's off putting and it nevers works with Holo Fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851332
i know few of them, Ironmouse, Veibae, and pinkcat. No, Vshoujo isnt a corporation

[Anonymous No.]

>>21850557
>Finana's monthly views is around 3M
anon wtf are you smoking

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851241
anon, nobody invites that waste of space to parties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851233
There are thousands upon thousands of indie games that fail. The gaming industry can only support all the indies that are successful due to its sheer size.
Keep in mind that games are are the 2nd largest entertainment industry in the world, beating both movies and music (combined even!), only losing to TV. Games absolutely dwarf streamers, let alone the vtubers niche.

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>>21851255
That's a shitton of hours streamed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851372
Why do you want hololive fanbase in particular ? Just find other viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851367
Fulgur, we saw your leak. Stfu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851488
>Vshoujo isnt a corporation
>got $11M venture capital
lel
I wonder if you're actually a vshojofag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21850449
JUNGANG ASSEMBLE!
>you already have the link, deploy the “please clarify if this is allowed” questions to fromsoft

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851267
You can always go to the irrational route that I went to anon. Go hard numberfag route and just watch the biggest big dick streamer streams. I coomed earlier to XQC's numbers peaking at 500k viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851458
I've considered it, but I just don't have the time I did before when partial lockdowns and shit meant I had more time.
Such is the nature of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851466
Actually the hololive promotional machine has successfully raised the holostars a lot. Because you people are like easily trained rats that will watch anything they shill enough. Most of your opinions are carefully managed and cultivated in the hololive global thread.

[Anonymous No.]

EN march vod views

group:
>Myth 46,218,858 (Hololive)
>Luxiem 25,225,064 (Nijisanji)
>Council 15,666,598 (Hololive)
>Noctyx 14,358,751 (Nijisanji)
>Ethyria 10,198,870 (Nijisanji)
>Lazulight 6,902,064 (Nijisanji)
>Obsydia 4,835,338 (Nijisanji)
>Hope 3,796,549 (Hololive)

individual:
>Mori 20,574,655 (Hololive)
>NijiEN Official 10,939,530 (Nijisanji)
>Gura 10,885,913 (Hololive)
>Vox 7,144,261 (Nijisanji)
>Kiara 6,297,104 (Hololive)
>Luca 6,154,548 (Nijisanji)
>Nina 5,392,008 (Nijisanji)
>Mysta 5,036,714 (Nijisanji)
>Ina 4,768,496 (Hololive)
>Mumei 4,041,981 (Hololive)
>Bae 3,977,004 (Hololive)
>Shu 3,937,068 (Nijisanji)
>IRyS 3,796,549 (Hololive)
>Pomu 3,720,836 (Nijisanji)
>Ame 3,692,690 (Hololive)
>Fauna 3,632,395 (Hololive)
>Kronii 3,582,888 (Hololive)
>Uki 3,388,886 (Nijisanji)
>Alban 3,340,422 (Nijisanji)
>Sonny 2,991,464 (Nijisanji)
>Ike 2,952,473 (Nijisanji)
>Fulgur 2,355,498 (Nijisanji)
>Yugo 2,282,481 (Nijisanji)
>Selen 2,252,007 (Nijisanji)
>Millie 2,066,601 (Nijisanji)
>Enna 1,882,877 (Nijisanji)
>Elira 1,608,178 (Nijisanji)
>Finana 1,573,050 (Nijisanji)
>Rosemi 1,499,401 (Nijisanji)
>HoloEN Official 1,299,172 (Hololive)
>Petra 1,083,930 (Nijisanji)
>Reimu 857,384 (Nijisanji)
>Sana 432,330 (Hololive)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851488
>Vshoujo isnt a corporation

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851372
Why is that insane? If someone came into vtubing because they liked a hololive member, then no shit they're going to discover the others and stay within that circle.
Not everyone is a worthless euro neet who has 18 hours a day to dump on various 2views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851488
>Vshoujo isnt a corporation
It is, it just is a very shit one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851549
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
SANA DRAGGING COUNCIL DOWN

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851546
Stop crying Fulgur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851503
So you think the solution is to make hololive even more wealthy? That's insane anon. They're already wealthy to such an absurd, ridiculous degree that they can buy lamborghinis for breakfast. Why are you continuing to shovel such an absurd amount of money at this one vtubing corporation? Frankly the talents at hololive aren't even that special. Just like any other vtubing corporation, you have some that never stream. Some that are unwatchable. Some that play niche games and filter their viewers. There's nothing unique whatsoever about hololive in this regard. I just don't understand why you're inflating them so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851431
>fucking Hajime is earning a (barely) liveable wage off adsense alone
Christ, the top dogs are rich beyond our wildest dreams

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851539
I get you, I used to watch way more indies regularly, talked to them etc. Not having the time plus coming out of it tired every time has made me reduce the amount of indies I watch on the regular though. Fuggin talking menhera japanese women out of an heroing in my N9999 japanese certainly didn't help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851549
>Mori is almost half of Myth

[Anonymous No.]

seething 2 view playing all her cards.
I should make a 2 view seething list really

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851642
Eh, I also watch Shylily, and she's almost the opposite of the Holo image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851263
Is there any examples of those "inspired" people actually doing similar things like those they look up to? My impression is that most of them just painted themselves as vtubers who looked up to them and went back to doing the same inane shit they were doing before getting inspired.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking timeloop again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851661
are her songs views included in this calculation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851431
Are you saying even the lowest dominator of holo got 4-6k usd/month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851546
Rio has been streaming for 2hrs and he has 349 people watching him right now. Pretty much around the same numbers yesterday as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851717
Of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851717
yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851431
This one is new for me. We really should talk more about youtube ads with this data we have

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851673
Please don't, she deserves the same attention her streams receives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851722
That's huge anon. That's like super top-tier for the lower corporations. I can only name a handful of vtubers who are that big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851022
That’s because she built a whole soundproof studio, which she likely offset from her taxes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851707
You mean vtweeters or trend chasers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851549
Why do you have Hope as separate. She should be part of Council at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851281
>Anyone can explain why ads aren't a point of discussion for this thread when we have something like this from fumi?
We already know of that income stream. I mean lets take the average hololive, Sakura Miko. She gets roughly 10-11 million a month in views, who cares if she's getting an extra $30k? Everyone gets that gravy.

Also, never forget that there is a massive difference in the type of view, vtubers who spam shorts aren't getting the bucks that someone who makes none assuming total views are the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851719
Yes see fumi >>21851052

[Anonymous No.]

>>21850728
Aqua dominated bilbil # too.
Too bad yagoo pulled out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851745
It's been brought up before, and we keep ending up with the same numbers since we know what their VOD views are per month (though song views muddle the numbers some).
Also understandably that someone like Shibuya Hal earns more for his montages than his normal streams since who the fuck cares about apex stream number 200 if it isn't live?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851757
It's not that huge for a holostar and the point was the virtue signalling didn't work and Hololibe fans still aren't watching them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851779
Both really, the vtweeter are obvious but the trendchasers didn't really change up anything or even tried to replicate what the people they looked up to were doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851813
>the average hololive, Sakura Miko

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851156
Actually it'll be higher, because of merch sales. Probably MUCH higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851642
>So you think the solution is to make hololive even more wealthy?
Don't put words in my mouth. I'm just saying that the entertainment industry is just naturally that brutal. The only realistic way to grow indies is to grow the whole vtuber scene as whole. And that's already getting difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851757
Even Suisei's groom target is bigger anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851831
Ogey zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851549
Does this include members?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851754
>the 2 view gets way more attention in /#/ than her streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851372
Maybe they can shill themselves to nijis
Nijis are a number 2 and massive vtuber company, why don't they share their viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851831
>Too bad yagoo pulled out.
More like BB fanned the flames and chased them out because they wanted the money Hololive was earning.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you hotpockets I was enjoying the calm of the non-schizo thread

[Anonymous No.]

Mori is talking about her label deal right now btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21850914
>People in there were legitimately arguing that her just quickly buying a 150USD monitor or having a spare monitor would be an irresponsible expenditure.
It is an irresponsible expenditure... for a creator. When spending money on work, spend it right the first time or don't at all.

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>>21851852
That's just the point anon. You're WAY out of touch. The best vtubers at the English corporations get around 400 viewers. That's the very best, the most charismatic, entertaining, lightning in a bottle people will get that. The good ones will get around 100 viewers. The average ones get around 20-50 viewers.

Getting 350 is huge.

I think the issue is that you don't actually understand what the world of vtubers looks like outside of hololive. You think 300 is small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851642
Because fucking advertisement, consider that most AAA game companies spend more on advertisement than on production, I also work in startup and shit is wild, shitty products that sell like cupcakes just because they had good ad campaigns or they pumped more money into them while objectively better stuff just fails because of the most inane reasons.
Honestly I don't even hate chuubas, some of them are unironically more talented and hard working than your average instagram influencer or fortnight streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851900
Unironically yes, she is probably furiously trying to check how to convert all these (you)s into meals as we are speaking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851745
It's been discussed to death in the past. And Socialblade exists, so you can just put their channels' name in the search box and voila, you get a rough guess of what they earn monthly through adrev.

[Anonymous No.]

This Raft collab is getting really pathetic numbers considering Marine isn't streaming her POV. You would think ichimi would be watching one of the other girls to get their Marine fix. MariKoro Raft got 40k on her channel, but without Marine pov the best they can get is 13k. It's not like it's sequel/game/instalment fatigue considering the MariKoro one was already a second part, too.

Marine's channel must have serious algo reach or something just by itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851918
Did they actually get it? Did they manage to get the international market, or have they stayed local? Is that what they wanted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851918
Not just the money, but also concerns about Mindshare. B2 doesn't want some foreign JAPANESE comapny dominating their streaming services after all, so chase them out or force them to kneel. The more I ruminate on it, the more I believe the rrats about B2 and Hololive, since it makes way too much sense and also follows the classic CN playbook on corpo sabotage.

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>>21850787
She's made $1,152,000 in publicly recordable SCs alone, even one third of that is $380,000. Not counting ad rev, merch, membership, sponsorships, basic Cover salary, Holofes ticket share, con appearance fees ect. Having $300k cash would only be surprising if she outright bought a house and still had that much leftover.

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>>21851956
>This Raft collab is getting really pathetic numbers considering Marine isn't streaming her POV.
16 Hololive girls streaming right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851938
Anon. You are doxxing yourself at this point. I watch other vtubers outside of Hololive and a lot of them have a constant of over 1k viewers. A lot are indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851932
Alas, it was technically later than this one and enough people reported it for spam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851993
Which ones? They trying to force HoloCN to be similar to VirtuaReal and Holo using the TW fiasco and the costumes shit to pull out completely from CN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851642
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851938
Nobody cares about small EN corpos outside this board because they're fucking shit, meanwhile plenty of JP indies and small corpos get 10x that number

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851661
this is outdated since I've not had time and since shes released new songs since then but mori's songs play a large role in her views
>>16901776 for jan
>>14593428 for dec and in dec the % of views which were from music was around 40%, but this might be higher this month due to her new songs

[Anonymous No.]

I thought my eyes are tricking me but Aqua's vod views for the shill is at 447k now for the 1st hr

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851993
Bilibili is big enough to just ignore some nationalists sperging out, they went out of their way to facilitate and amplify the outrage. Even if they didn't plan it, which how could they without knowing Coco was gonna drop the T-bomb in advance, they certainly capitalized on it to push them out of the market.

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>>21852028
I suppose the japanese ones might. But I specifically said the english corporations.

That's important, because while Hololive has 30 Japanese talents, they only have 11 English talents. So being hololive-only actually makes sense for a Japanese person. But for an English viewer, you have to be crazy to be hololive only. Especially when the smaller English corps have over 50 vtubers for them to watch. And they just keep pouring money on the 11 vtubers at hololive, most of whom are just average, and several of whom are bad. They will not look at anyone else, they're so tribalistic to an absurd extent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851918
>chased them out
Doubt it. BB wants japan and world audience, which hololive can bring. T-yab simply put a wedge between the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851993
they also thought they could keep holoCN as a rogue china company, but something in the tech didnt allow them to

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851528
OH fuck the amount of times I coomed to this game is unreal.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1511331121354899457
Kanata return on the 16th, predictions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851937
No. You often have to spend, just to keep things running. Her not streaming costs her more than buying a monitor, she earns back the monitor in a couple of minutes. And she can expense it to reduce her taxes, so the cost to her is basically nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Custom without startend

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
its over...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
50k, and a lot of SCs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852112
kek 2viewchama, i dont even watch 3 streams a day, much less 11 or 30.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852112
HoloID is also part of that equation. 11 HoloEN and 9 HoloID so 20.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852104
I just checked it and now it's at 468k, the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852112
Do you think I reserve 24hrs a day just to watch Vtubers or some shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
if she uses that bait pic as her thumbnail, i might be pretty big

[Anonymous No.]

Its amazing how a literal whorehouse always wins in popularity over actual entertainers. Its the same thing on the twitch side with vsj over their competition aswell showing theres no real redeeming quality for vtubers outside of coom baiting pulls more views as Luxiem shows aswell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852112
Not everyone sits around watching nothing but vtubers all day. Also you forget that Holo ID has 9 English-speaking talents to fill out the schedule. I actually watch a ton of vtubers but rarely find a time anymore where no EN speaking Holo is streaming or there's no good VODs to watch. At a stretch you might need to watch Pomu, Rosemi, Elira ect. There's never any need to watch someone with 50 views or go to twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852112
copy pasted response

[Anonymous No.]

* HERE, to help your debate on other streamers and their viability *
Ranking of median of peak CCV, only non COVER / non Anycolor.

It seems the secret to (>>21851372)
>shill yourself to such an incredibly tribalistic fanbase as the hololive fanbase
is
> NOT EVEN ATTEMPT IT

VSPO girls went for the “cute girls playing FPS” niche and they struck gold because it was clearly underserved. There are only so many Aquas, Choco, Towas and Chihiros to fill the market and they went for it head first.

Then there is Hal’s Neo Porte going for the “FPS clique, with anime avatars”. It remains to be seen if he’ll succeed as a company but his and Reid’s performance so far lend to the idea there is a market there.

Then there are the ASMRtists, carving a niche for themselves, and some “single game” specialists like NeruMero with genshin and Gatchman with phasmo.

All of the successful ones COMPLETELY avoided going head on against Holos and Nijis and chose whatever corner of the market left untouched by them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
startend really carries the apex streamer community

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
No Aqua, no watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852050
In essence yea, that billibilli purposely signal-boosted the antis and deleted stuff that clarified what happened to Stoke the flames, specifically so that they could either force Hololive to give more control over to the CN branch over the main branch, or to oust them and supplant them using A-soul. There were some mainlanders that noted how anything pro-Holololive got deleted immediately, but anti-Hololive stuff was allowed to stay up constantly. That combined with how quickly A-soul came out after Hololive pulled out of China, the fact thar HoloCN went rogue with their statement on the 1-china policy, etc. and what looks like just some rrats suddenly looks like a very convincing picture of corporate shenanigans and interference run by billibilli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852104
>>21852223
lot of businessmen hungry for sushi today for some reason haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>21850715
The fuck you even get these number lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851372
>Who legitimately will not watch anything that doesn't have Yagoo's dickprint on it?
wrong, both Lua from KawaiiPro and Lisa from tsunderia got a few holowatchers from a clipper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
How shameless

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
Womp womp. Aqua poached all the apex tourists. How sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
Remember when people were claiming StartEnd is taking away views from other vtubers? The opposite was true. King had better views when they were streaming

I hope they fucking kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
Well shes overlapping the pre apex tournament so 30k (if startend stream), decent sc tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
I thought Apexfags were a fickle bunch and would just watch Apex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
King.. your only strength is robbed..

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
She has powerpoint slides prepared

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852255
Interesting that there's at least 60 JP small corpos/indies that are competitive with holo ID/Niji EN numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852377
They also prefer to watch the best, or the crew kidnapped the tourists. Either way, pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852292
This whole VOD situation is such a headache to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852389
>and this... is where I almost died

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852377
>I thought Apexfags were a fickle bunch and would just watch Apex?
A lot of those viewers are just average tourists that are getting swept up by the Aqua hype train.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never seen lottery buyer seethe this hard when they fail to even get a consolation prize for 10 years. Why are 2 views so entitled, why are broke crackheads got shunned on when he bet his whole saving on his local casino but the broke 1-2 views who bet their time for a chance to blow think they deserve the pity instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852255
shilling to the Holo fanbase worked for Ui and Norio, though, and to a lesser extent for some of the other names on that list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852162
Aqua together with her StartEnd team basically revived the Apex scene in Japan when most of the streamers started popularizing Valorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852416(me)
Oh nvm, they only just started and they're still climbing, that screenshot had the time bug. Imo they have momentum, let's see if this can break 40k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852395
Wait, why are you grouping HoloID with NijiEN? NijiEN competes with HoloJP nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori got rejected by a label for speaking too much english in songs
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

The biggest Holos currently:

Marine > Aqua > Pekora > Miko > Suisei > Noel > Gura

Do you agree?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852465
perks of being a holo mama

[Anonymous No.]

Previously we were able to cross reference sales figures on some of the other items to get floors/rough figure son sales for other Holo merch but not bad taking the top spot from Red Velvet

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852489
>NijiEN competes with HoloJP nowadays.
What's funny is that it's true. NijiEN is more of a threat to NijiJP than HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>wah wah muh poor small EN corpos
Meanwhile the JP scene outside of NijiHolo is as strong as ever, maybe try being entertaining if that's even possible for western f*moids

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852459
Because they think that HoloEN should share the wealth. They think of HoloEN as their "peers" who they can call upon anytime.

They don't realize that even in the vtuber world, HoloEN exists on a whole different dimension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852506
Which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852587
small indie label, she didn't specify

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852549
NijiJP should thank NijiEN for bringing attention to their dying branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852536
noel before gura is just retarded bait, kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852536
>Noel
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852536
Marine has rarity buff lately though. She needs an asterisk

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852489
If you are talking about Vox with a celebration buff sure or maybe Luca and Mysta but NinjiEN is not just one gen. If you haven't noticed, they have 3 other gens.

[Anonymous No.]

numbers feel awfully low for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852473
most of their servers worldwide are almost completely dead all day, you can never find a match
Aqua should probably be on the Apex dev's payroll for what she's doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852612
>>21852615
I don't know much about Noel but isn't she pulling insane numbers with ER?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852536
with upcoming apex streams, surely aqua is on top. shill stream and she matches marines buff content, surely shes the stringest currently

[Anonymous No.]

King what is happening, you usually getting 30K+ with Apex....

[Anonymous No.]

lamy got her 10k even with overlap hell + noel and miko streaming their own ER

[Anonymous No.]

>>21851863
Maybe we should construct the average hololive member.
CCV should 9k
SCs should be $24k per month in SCs*
Members at around 6k*
About 5.5 million views a month**

* I'm making this up
** This is an educated guess based on eyeballing holostats

This person grosses $25k~ from ads, $20k~ from members, $24k~ from SCs

Assuming the split is even the average hololiver only makes $28k a month after cuts if you don't include sponsorships and merch. That isn't that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852465
>Ui
Nah, Ui's case wasn't due to pandering, rather it's due to a simple thing. She never abandoned Hololive even after the chinkout, and she got embraced by Holobox as a result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852637
>what is overlap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852157
Assuming that she lives within the vicinity of a city (150k+ pop.), she could literally go out to any mall or store or even Amazon and get the most high quality shit delivered to her within 24 hours. The hell does she need to spend money on a $150 shitty ass monitor in the age of 1-day shipping? that's basically guaranteed e-waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852261
How big is the bull's eye on their back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852150
Disgusting leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852666
She has to get good number on different games.
It's just like the difference between Kuzuha and Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852690
big streamers get more from premium rev than ad rev, since its proportional to the time you watch them

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852666
Few 20k+ streams. It's nothing really that insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852721
even still, it's enough to have a collab between towa and ayame have this "low" of a number? I would've expected a bit more at least

[Anonymous No.]

Why is nijiEN's response to War is to stream at the JP timeslot? Do they not like to stream to an NA audience?

[Anonymous No.]

so.. Holo Gold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852690
You can remove the ccv if you want to talk money since it doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852826
when is it not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852675
during apex tourney season she's on top, getting consistent 70k+ ccv streams is ahead of everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852608
What attention? Luxiem is stealing their viewers and giving them jack shit in return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852790
Lol look at the game they're playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852536
VODs, subs, members, even CCV we can easily put gura on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852566
The whole "vtuber community" all over again. Verbally locking themselves in a niche community thinking the only what to grow is to leech and steal viewer from the top dog. They're like your local 2 view streamer seething at XQc for not giving them any exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852848
Hal, yep no Niji

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>>21852790
There are FOURTEEN streams going on right now for HoloJP, plus Mori. That's 100k watching Hololive on a Tuesday night, pretty normal total, just hellish overlap.

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>>21852628
even before she went on a break she was pulling insane numbers, the rarity buff doesn't mean shit

[Anonymous No.]

dab on Nijiniggers
DAB ON NIJINIGGERS AHAHAHA

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>>21851642
>make hololive even more wealthy
damn right i will, and i will do it without spending a single cent and to make you and your 2view seethe

[Anonymous No.]

The biggest Holos currently:
Marine > Gura > Aqua > Pekora > Miko > Shion > Suisei > Noel

Do you agree?

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>>21852730
Yes I agree, the point that the people on /uuu/ were making is that she shouldn't buy things in a hurry just to keep streaming, she should do some research first.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't do the hierarchy shit again it'll just start retarded timeloops

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>>21852810
Cover hasn't deployed their soldiers yet.

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>>21852880
>VODs
She tops views per stream/upload, not views total. And even that's under threat from Aqua in Apex season.
>subs, members
Yup
>CCV
There's at least 5 holomem with better CCV than Gura.

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>>21852863
This, yeah. Look no further than KING who can't even reach 25k despite playing APEX custom, and he's THE blackhole of Nijisanji.

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Retards will bite it regardless
Fucking idiots

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>>21852945
half of them don't even stream normally......

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>>21852536
If you are just talking about raw ability to pull ccv #, pretty much right.

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>>21852945
Sana > Choco > Reimu > Mel > Anya

[Anonymous No.]

you really should listen into mori's stream right now, she's talking alot about her arrangement with UMG

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>>21852945
aqua > gura currently
maybe aqua > marine as long as it is apex prime season

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>>21852790
everyone is outside having sushi
pls understand

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>>21852863
They're also raising expectations on how shameless a Nijimale should be.

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>>21852961
just hit up /g/

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>>21852255
Neo Porte is also tageting the utaite audience considering they have soraru and mafumafu as founders.

Their leading talent, Hizuki Yui, released a cover that has ~350k views in under a week
https://youtu.be/JMC3mquZU-g

and another short cover for her getting 100k subs that is almost at 100k in under three days
https://youtu.be/WZI2VW_kRaM

[Anonymous No.]

In other news, Kobo is now ahead of Zeta in subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21852934
I said lately

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>>21852945
Biggest Holo is Mori retard then comes Ollie and Polka

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji never puts up a fight these days that EN vs JP will loop again and again

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>>21853084
Just give us a summary later.

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>>21852677
Vox is sucking King viewers

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>>21852112
>That's important, because while Hololive has 30 Japanese talents, they only have 11 English talents.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Hololive audience. they don't see 30 Japanese talents or 11 English talents; they see 60+ Holomembers. If you are watching Gura, there is a non-zero percent chance that you might at one point watch Roboco, or even Ayame. People are constantly watching only Hololive because they already get more than enough available entertainment out of the one company alone...

Why would they be bothered to watch anything else?

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not in a MILLION years would I have guessed haachama is able to hold a crisp 6k in this horrible of an overlap, if this was back in late feb she wouldn't have gotten 3k...maybe even 2.5

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>>21853009
>VOD
It will gradually dominated by Mori and Suisei.
Suisei is catching up Gura's total VOD.
Suisei has lots of covers + 10~20 originals.
Mori has a few covers + over 20 originals + topic channel songs .

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>>21852945
you can blame inactivity on ayame, but why did you forget shuba?

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>>21818159
Remember to hound him every thread until he sends that akasupa and screenshots it

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>>21853172
Kuzuha felt so threatened he even mentioned Vox once. He never mentions any itger vtuber in his streams.

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>>21853218
Perfect timing for him to send it. Vox is playing Genshit impact

[Anonymous No.]

Now I understand why HoloID3 has such a strong KR following. It's always this guy.

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>>21853189
She's plotting something against Pegor in MC while blasting some ominous music. Pretty entertaining than ER or Raft if you ask me

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>>21853245
He wants to protect his anus?

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>>21852666
don't worry about noel. being a vtuber is just something she does for fun

[Anonymous No.]

Man I wish vrabi would show selection sums in its progress view. Also, neo porte doko?

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>>21852536
Marine: Top tier Holo with rarity buff, might go in break soon again cuz she's an idiot
Aqua: Top tier Holo who went Idol reps, then Apex solomas, then Apex tournament favorite. #1 without a doubt until her next menhera break.
Pekora: Irregular numbers, still strong af but not on her game. Waiting for MC arc to kick in.
Miko: Stable top tier who is currently on her ER arc, will slip every time as always tho
Suisei: Strong incline (80k utawaku, 147k live). Pumping music like crazy, and part of Aqua's Apex arc.
Gura: Back to back 40k~ish streams, inclining by giving a shit and being proactive. 4m subs soon
Noel: I wouldn't call her top tier, if anything Subaru is safely above her. Good ER arc

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>>21853218
>trusting a chinese

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>>21853189
Haachama is just inconsistency personified, she does an awful New Year relay karaoke, the worst one of them all, but then two very good Holofes performances. She has some streams that are completely unwatcheable, but then has a great new outfit and some of the best songs in Hololive.

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>>21853189
Haacham might get low number but never 3k low anon, her 5k viewers will not budge even if Kim Jong Un was performing live with other Holomems in another stream.

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>>21852945
I don't understand this order at all. If its subs then why is Gura second, if its ccv why no aqua and peko

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>>21853304
Yeah, sucking cock is her real bread and butter.

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>>21852961
Maybe they did take it a bit far. I don't think "research" takes more than one a day and an actual order could be placed even within that same business day. At least they erred on the side of caution, but a bit too cautious.

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>>21853382
unlike festival you don't see any males around do you?

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>>21853382
yea, mine

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>>21853269
that doesn't really matter in haachama's case anon
back in feb she could've killed herself on stream and she wouldn't break 5k
>>21853361
anonchama look at haachama's numbers a week after her stream with marine....

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>>21853215
VoDs can't be dominated by Suisei or Mori anon, their numbers come from music not stream vods. Unless you are referring to all views in which cad marine can keep mogging them in views with shorts

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>>21853334
>might go in break soon again cuz she's an idiot
Just get the surgery. Fes is over.

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>>21852465
>worked for Ui and Norio, though
Both Ui and Norio have a thing in common that others don’t
1) they bet their farms on their relationship with Holos (and Nijis too) from the very start, all the way back from the era of “the four horsemen” and stick with it through thick and thin.
There are others that didn’t (like Kagura Mea, which distanced during the chinkout) and quickly got forgotten.
2) Norio, in particular, owes her success to no one but herself. She is for the industry as a whole what Mio is for Hololive and Hal for the APEX scene: a tard wrangler and a masterful organizer.
For instance: that stream she made with the top ASMR chuubas from the market (Patra, Noel, Choco, Rindou) was one of the most interesting streams in recent memory.

Being a Holo mom and a Niji mom may give a head start to some chuubas but as Ayamy and Nabi quickly found, it takes a lot of effort to succeed regardless of starting point

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>>21853215
I did say "views per stream/upload". If you partition between views per stream (e.g. duolingo) and views per upload (e.g. Reflect), Gura still comes out on top. She only "loses" in this metric in certain situations, like Aqua's Apex arc.

Yes, Gura loses in total views, especially in total upload views.

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>>21853447
Yeah, Mori gets good views and decen VOD views when she streams but a huge chunk of that number is in music.
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/overall

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>>21853189
>hold a crisp 6k
Haaton give her a 4K base in any stream she’s not sperging with lore stuff. Minecraft gets her the other 2k that are in to see what’s she cooking

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Lmao Nijisanji civil war between JP vs EN

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>>21853632
If it’s not on 5ch or matome it’s not worth it, stupid frogposter

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>>21853632
What, on 5ch? I don't see anything here.

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>>21853632
What are you talking about?

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Gura got back her 3.91M. Looks like the cull was a good 1-1.5k given it took a whole night to get it back, but she’s back now. Hopefully these big streams help get some more viewers back into her typical streams, though Kirby feels like it’s run its course at this point so i’m hoping after this week she’s done with that

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>>21853632
Kill yourself frognigger

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>>21853632
? What happen this time?

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>>21853632
stupid tourist frogposter, kill yourself

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>>21853632
?? Where??

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>>21853189
if she continues like this...truly the mother of all inclines, against all odds she still did it
even I shitposted about how her numbers were ID tier at the time barley reaching 3k

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>Mori: I will only use 3D for special stuff
>3 back to back 3D streams
>Fucking zatsu 3D

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>>21853267
I found that Gura sang Galaxy from him.

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>>21853778
mori is special after all. she works harder and deserves more than all her genmates, as you can tell by her 3d

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>>21853778
Those are special stuff though...

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>>21853692
she has finished kirby so all she has left is the post game zones but not sure on how long that will take her

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>>21853778
Don't spam it you idiot. Also zatsudan 3D, what??

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>>21852945
First of all, I don't fucking know how are are you ranking them, this is not even a top 10 and the choice of Holo is super random
Second of all, objective opinion here: Aqua>Marine>Pekora=Miko>Gura. Though popularity are not something you can gauge by number

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I thought Marine had a stream up in this collab but she has none and the viewers for the others members in the collab are more or less the same for when she has a frame up, is there nothing hololive can do to try to transfer some of her viewers to others member when she is not around?

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>>21852459
because success breeds jealousy, baby.
No really pretty much all of them see Hololive's success and imagine that if they can capture even a small fraction of that fanbase they'll be made for life, but then most of them fail to grab even that small fraction and they end up coming up with all kinds of excuses for why the hololive audience doesn't want to watch them instead of examining themselves for what they did wrong

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>>21853131
this loli has DRS and fresher tyres

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>>21853873
Home 3D, just like Miko

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>>21853692
>Gura got back her 3.91M. Looks like the cull was a good 1-1.5k given it took a whole night to get it back, but she’s back now.
You know, it's likely that a certain % of subs always gets culled over time, so it's reasonable to assume that Gura gets the most culls in absolute numbers with her near 4M subs.

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KOBO ZETA 300K
AAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>21853927
Oh, thats understandable

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>>21853664
The only shit I am seeing on matomes are the Amamya bilibili fuck up, Aqua posting, and Matsuri, again. If Matsuri an lolcow?

[Anonymous No.]

aqua shill vod at 550k already, how tf??
i get theres some novelty in it+tourist buff but this is insane

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>>21853820
They all have their 3D, Moona and Iofi already used theirs before Calli. Kiara's is still the best though.

[Anonymous No.]

ok seems like kobo is going to mog zeta in this valo collab

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>>21853964
so a nothingburger again?

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo starts out with double Zeta's numbers.

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>>21853986
It grows much faster than her 60K+ Apex.

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>>21852566
>>21852897
to be fair, kizuna started this trend.
and look where it go em.

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>>21853956
Just waiting for them to beat Sana kek

>>21854031
Well Kobo already passed Zeta in subs an hour or so ago
Blue holo stronk

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>>21853952
Gura with her channel size almost certainly picks up a lot of legit bots that do need culled as well. The bigger your channel the more you attract that kind of detritus.

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>>21853986
people of all ages love food videos

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>>21854031
>>21854047

EOPs mostly watching Mori atm, if she fucks off soon to sleep then Zeta will get most of them. At least until they find out the collab is in indog and bail.

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>>21853986
It’s not natural, and I suspect there’s a lot of views pouring in somewhere where we can’t see or just don’t know about. A 42k stream is a 42k stream, but these aren’t numbers for your typical 42k. Marine gets 450k or so for a 2 hour zatsu at 40k+ and that’s fucking Marine. Aqua’s views for an hour is like if Gura had 60k ccv showing on her live counter or some shit. So I have no idea what’s going on with it. I’m at a loss since it’s not normal for everything we’ve seen out of Holo

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>>21854074
it surpassed her valentines day chocolate making too lol, this is ridiculous

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>>21854042
Not even a nothingburger, it's just the voices in his head. EN is the furthest thing from their mind if the threads I'm reading are accurate.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder if you order Minato Aqua Selection Set to also get Minato Aqua Selection Drink

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>>21854178
probably algorithm at work ?

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>>21853986
How many views does Gura’s unarchived karaoke have?

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>>21854178
Are you the Gura VOD count anon? Does this pace beat Gura's stream view count growth scaled for CCV?

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>>21854178
im guessing they are skipping to the part with the full set just to see what it is, since there isnt any media of that on the official twitter/media

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>kobo and zeta trying to boost kaela
bros.. this gen.. it's beautiful

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>>21853986
Probably like me. I open the video, skipping to see what kind of sushi she recommends, and then close it.

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>>21854178
Must be pretty good if even chumbud vod anon is speechless kek

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>>21854237
123,377 from vstats

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>>21854237
Around 125k, though keep in mind that you don't get to see fully processed view count for unarchived.

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>>21854178
for actual views you should look at avg ccv instead of peak ccv.
marines had 27k, while marine had 36k. Its not so absurd

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>>21854331
while aqua had 36k*

[Anonymous No.]

i guess debut buff is gone?
both zeta and kobo have less CCV now.

[Anonymous No.]

>Aqua so strong she has even destroyed the VOD Cope
Nijikiller has evolved into ENkiller, I suppose because the NijiENs are getting uppity
I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

> 2nd Valorant stream
> A fuck tons of overlap
> Still got 6k in 10 minutes and numbers continue to go up

ID market for Holo is inclining

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>>21854370
>both zeta and kobo have less CCV now.
they started 15 minutes ago, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854370
>split pov
>14 other holos are streaming
I don't know anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854370
valorant buff or debuff game?

[Anonymous No.]

i can't check but is kobo still having the buffering issues?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21853986
Remember, a twitter account with 1.3mil followers retweeted it, and their followers probably don't overlap with normal Holoviewers as much since it's a sushi chain.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori didn’t negotiate for perms for her own songs…
She said Holos aren’t allowed to sing her songs for now.

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>>21854370
Not a good example with them just starting streams, plus the overlap.
Also too soon to say - historically the debut buff for holos lasts for at least a month or so before the floor is reached.

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>>21854222
The problem is that Aqua’s done food streams before and these aren’t numbers you got back then. And Pekora’s done food vods as well and even they are NOWHERE near this production. Her carrot stream that had 34-37k ccv hit around… I believe 340k views after a full day of processing and that was already an insane amount of views. Like an actual good stream for Pekora.

This is already closing in on 600k after 2 hours. Just for reference, Miko’s 3D live that had 125k peak ccv has around 790-800k views on her vod. So yeah.

>>21854240
Yeah it’s me. This one though? Yeah. This vod in particular is too unnatural and doesn’t fit the mold of anything we’ve seen. It’s making Gura and Marine both look like ants in comparison. I don’t know if this vod is like embedded anywhere or something because it’s a LOT. I mean, look at pic related after 6 hours. And that was close to a 2hr stream also.

[Anonymous No.]

Zeta getting half the ccv Kobo has while also being surpassed in sub, what happened?

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>>21853918
to be fair it worked for certain people, Uto and Artemis just to name a couple. The issue is that it worked back in 2020, back when the lockdowns was at it's height, there were only 5 holoENs, and everyone was still kind of shopping around to see what if anything interests them. By the time mid 2021 rolled around people already had their favourites locked in and didn't have alot of time in their schedules to fit in more streamers, least of all streamers that don't regularly interact with their favourites.

And now that 2022 is here if anyone still thinks they can steal the hololive audience by being knock off hololive they deserve to get laughed out of the industry. There is a reason NijiEN only saw massive success after deviating from the "hololive lite" image

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>>21854459
as of yesterday, yes

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri didn't incline from hitting master.
Poor festival..

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
SHE HATES HOLOLIVE

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>>21854490
kek mori is a fucking retard

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>>21854422
Babby's first debut buff? They'll be 3 figures by May

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
All her songs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
>no more JP holos playing cringe raps
>mori has less time to stream
I see this as nothing but an absolute win

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854212
jesus how the hell is she not fat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854510
Never underestimate brand name. It's the biggest sushi restaurant chain in Japan cmon now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854370
ID collab always low number

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>>21854370
There's like 20 holos streaming now, not exactly debuff streams either so competition is tough. A quick look at vrabi shows them with 6.8k for Kobo and 3.8k for Zeta, not bad for a split pov stream either.

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>>21854567

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>>21854370
7.6k right now for Kobo.

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>>21854495
this is what i don't understand.
usually debut buff only last for a week for holoID.
since even Ollie and Reine only got sub 3k or even less in their 2nd week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854553
Anything made by the label. Her old songs are fine.

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>>21854511
Kobo is inclining further than her, Zeta's number is still pretty damn good and she's higher in SC too. Also Kobo is actually better in Valorant and fps watcher tends to pick the better player in split streams

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>>21854490
actual fucking retards, thankfully all her garbage songs are; as stated before, garbage and no self respecting holo should sing them

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo with her shitty internet is destroying Mito right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
her songs before capsule is OK for holos to sing and she'll try to negotiate for future songs . listen properly retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
I take this as a win-win situation, she gets money from the label and I dont have to hear her songs even on random karaokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854632
pretty sure shes like 145+, and apparently she lost weight, i guess eating sushi is saving her from gaining weight

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
Mori what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
So stupid jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854632
>44.5 CM
>140 KG
???????

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>>21854331
Yeah that’s fair, but it still wouldn’t add up. We can’t call cull bcus this is both a JP and this is actually the one single Holo that never actually GOT culled, so that’s out of the equation. We’ve seen other vods with higher avgs not reach this speed either. So either there’s:
>Word of mouth and people are coming to watch
>Her recent apex fans coming to watch anything she does
>Embedded somewhere we don’t know
>ALIENS
All I got right now. We’ll have to see as time goes on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854661
Ah okay. That’s not that bad, for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854511
blue

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>>21854632
>44.5 cm
>140 kg...
uhm, fucking canon ball.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
obviously a lie since she wants to keep all the views for herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854511
She the one that play Valo, Zeta is newbie and showed a really poor performance in Apex already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Am I crazy or is ID3 maintaining their numbers much much longer than ID2? I feel like Reine was already at like 2k by this point and Anya was a lost cause since the start. Even Ollie was only getting 4k+ when she'd do stuff like try out Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854697
That sounds kind of dumb that she didn't get perms for future songs first given her her situation. So dumb, but not GIGAdumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854736
>>21854755
>newfags missed the golden days of aqua shitposting on /jp/, theyll never experience her slapping holos knees stacked on unlimited chair works

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854806
They are. They also seem to have a much larger amount of Indonesians in their chat. I think they might have actually broken the market open to some extent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
Mori is fucking retarded. Probably on cloud 9 that day and eat up everything before reading the contract. But on the bright side thank God Hololive won't be infected by her shitty song anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854515
It's the WoW killer all over again, people keep thinking that they could steal WoW's audince by being "like wow, but x", and just like with WoW, offering "Like Hololive, but x" is not going to convince the hololive audience to abandon hololive for your knockoff unless you offer a truly revolutionary product, and even then your chances of success are still low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854511
Zeta's been carried by her voice and language, but her streams so far have been far worse than Kobo's. Obviously Kobo had her kino guitar karaoke, she also had a good Valo stream while Zeta was being steam sniped in Apex. Zeta's Outlast stream was also pretty tame compared to Kobo's.

It seems Kobo has the better content but Zeta just makes goslings feel all kinds of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854835
She’s not even sure she can sing her own songs on stream. Sora got fucked by her label on this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854669
Anon, Zeta have like 50k more subs than Kobo and 10k more ccv prior to today and now Kobo's the first to reach 300k, what are you even talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854865
/#/ may have been right about labels being a negative for the talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21850490
There has never been a single person who spent more than $100 on a pair of sneakers who was a boon to humanity

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854697
Anyone who thinks they aren't going to be able to get perms for future songs is retarded. It's not in EMIs best interest to deny it, they're just going to want to try to get something out of Cover for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854806
They are, Kobo in particular has really broken into the indonesian audience, her highest CCVs are all when she's doing indonesian heavy or even pure indonesian streams

[Anonymous No.]

300k Kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854632
>those numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854849
anon, 44.5 cms and 144 kgs isn't humanly possible unless you are a very fat dwarf

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854490
oh excelent another anti mori schizo arc has began

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854684
OH NO NO NO NIJIKEKS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854806
kobo got her chat good, she spit indo memes every 20 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is subrek?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854806
kaela was like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854902
Zeta's voice is really magical, she just needs the content to back it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854684
It's funny I think HoloID has their number. First they mog them with the golden play button and now this.

[Anonymous No.]

>still increasing to 8k
holy shit i kneel kober

[Anonymous No.]

Tonight's numbers are so low. Don't even need 13k to get in the top 5 of current streams.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how the ID3 girls wil fair once they start collaborating with their sempai's

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo is basically ID pekora and Zeta is ID Rushia. Unfortunately, unless Kaela improves she's going to be the flare of the Gen instead of Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854973
Just wait till aqua hear this, shes gonna come to slap you today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855050
indo incels word for subscribes

[Anonymous No.]

Oh Kuzuha hit 30k about 10 ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854610
That's quite a lot of holo streaming I guess they don't have any more projects in progress?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855135
Yeah basically this.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

Mito has lost her magic. 6.8k for a hype content is lackluster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854902
I watch Zeta because she's sex but after fapping Kobo is far more entertaining

[Anonymous No.]

>Still got 8k despite overlap hell, split pov and playing valorant with shitty internet

Debut buff my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855233
>marry kobo and fuck her older sister
based

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo is a legit indog superstar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854789
How good is Kobo at Valo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855243
Jesus
ID Gold?

[Anonymous No.]

what the excuses now nijikeks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854902
It's Laplus vs Chloe again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855133
Risu/Iofi don't stream enough or collab enough to matter.
Moona can indoctrinate them into Minecraft, could be huge once they hook up with the EN/JP servers, if any of them are inclined to play it.
Ollie will drag them into Apex and along with Moona help them network with the rest of Indonesia's vtuber scene. Also her and Reine will help them with interacting with EN.
Reine is good at collabs but they're not typically too exciting.
Anya will basically be their Japanese chaperone so they can do stuff with JP senpais.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855083
She can draw so drawing stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855243
What's her secret?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855243
>>21855301
I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855209
How is that hype? Anyway it has less to do with Mito and more to do with the wholesale abandonment of female vtuber fans for Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855402
>Hololive Icon is blue
>Blue Women

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855301
Blue Gura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855133
Zeta will benefit the most out of collabs, cause she can pretty much collab with any holomem. She could join group collabs with members like Gura and Ame no problem. Similar to how Lui's even elementary English is still much better than her genmates and got her invited to Calli's birthday 3D as the sole JP member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855382
keep ollie far away from them please

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855402
Cute & funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855477
Quite possibly the ID Gura.
If she actually reaches 1M in just twice the time Gura took, I'll kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855133
Kobo and Kaela would be meh, except maybe in all ID collab, but Zeta in other hand, might be the new Ollie or Reine tier in collab stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855394
She's already talked about paywalling those. I'd guess she's insecure about her process, much like Sana, and isn't fast. Ina has set the bar ridiculously high for what a "vtuber drawing stream" is. Stupidly high. LeBron James playing in your rec league high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854902
Zeta is very attractive but she still needs to figure out how to keep the viewers she attracts.

Kobo on the other hand is super entertaining. Her voice and demeanor are like watching a comedian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855480
Kobo just has the body type a lot of holomems like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854939
Well of course, and that's on Mori and whoever advised her for not choosing to ask for it as part of the contract, so now it'll need to be negotiated seperate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855596
eh, just do quicker, meme drawings like mumei

[Anonymous No.]

Indog really love valorant huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855394
https://twitter.com/vestiazeta/status/1511265820483416064
Passpartout next Saturday

[Anonymous No.]

You notice how full of indogs this thread is when there are 500 JP streams ongoing but the only thing getting spammed about is the Id collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855593
there is no fucking way any ID can reach 1M in 2 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855517
just wait until ollie got them go with her routes, m chan gonna approve it, because its the ID goal, unity trash, you are gonna see the fall of kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855701
retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855596
Somehow I appreciate Iofi. Even though her drawing skill is worse than most drawing Holos, she is still confident enough to do drawing stream even collab with Ina even though she is super mogged by Ina

[Anonymous No.]

This girl has reclined. She was once a 20k streamer...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855653
indog love kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854973
>>21854960
Is Aqua really retarded or is she faking it?
Considering Aqua's 44.5cm 142kg her BMI is 717.1, according to an study by Patricia Anne Kinser from Haverford College under the direction of Paul Grobstein from Bryn Mawr College the average ratio of BMI and total brain mass is 1:40, by using this data we can use the Snell allometry equation E=CS^r, where E is the weight of the brain, S the body weight, C is a constant "cephalization factor", and r an epirically determined exponential constant (0.66 in this case because Aqua's a mammal). The equation would be as follows: E=7.44 (cephalization factor)*144kg^0.66, which means Aqua's brain weight would be about 197.7389302g (chart for comparison). In conclusion: Aqua's brain is comparable to a new born and she should never be taken seriously in anything academic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855701
JP pulling usual numbers. ID pulling extraordinary numbers. Which do you think we're gonna discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855701
Almost like Japanese people have their own dedicated vtuber board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855701
Because the gold, silver and bronze already got claimed. the only thing remotely interesting left is the indog race

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854902
4.5k is still more than enough to mog most nijiEN girls.

[Anonymous No.]

Valorant view is so fickle, u die instant drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855619
>Kobo on the other hand is super entertaining. Her voice and demeanor are like watching a comedian.
ID Pekora indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855852
Gura could stream and it wouldnt get traction in this thread like ID3 streams..

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855653
>Indog really love valorant huh?
Not really since Kobo got 13k playing Outlast. If anything, Valorant might be a debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855701
I'm EU, but the JP numbers aren't interesting. The only number that mattered was Aqua's. Marine doesn't even have a POV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855859
>Race
It's more like to see if she can manage to end up on the full leaderboard instead of 'just' the ID one.

[Anonymous No.]

To be fair to niji, the bilibili account of holos/nijis are usually handled by fan groups and there is someone called the restream guy handing the restream. Back then when coco yab happened, the b2 tatsunoko group were asking why didn't the restream guy cut the stream off.

I am still in the camp of all jp chuubas should gtfo china though.

.t bilibili anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855899
That's enough to beat any normal stream by them except like really hype Selen Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855701
There isn't super big number or unusual number on JP for discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855918
Where were you when she did her Karaoke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855918
quit your retarded baiting anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855918
Nigger were you not here last night? Anyway this is prime SEA hours so of course there's plenty of EN speakers from that region hanging around.

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>>21855943
I mean it has to be, non-citizens aren’t allowed to open channels iirc. Holos got fucked by them during the Taiwan shit (releasing Aquas song and posting Anti-coco stuff on Sora’s channel among other stuff)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855943
don't give a crap zhang, don't blame others for your bug mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855918
Gura doesnt get enough attention...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855943
That's also why there's shit like Ui mamas bilibili account restreaming her YouTube stream and then panic ending it when Holos show up as a surprise guest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855918
because gura always got high numbers, its just like gombals postdebut all over again

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855918
Nijikek/newfag detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855820
I think they're flipped. Height 142. Weight 44 kg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856086
kek i remember, it was hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

She keeps on inclining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856117
Anon...the joke....

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856117
wrong, do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
I saw she reach 8975 or something
basically 9k

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Vaxbros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856117
Anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

Valorant is a terrible YouTube streaming game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Every night id3 is mogging nijicn

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
AGAIN? NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE...
KOBO STOP!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21855910
Pekora is not cunny and she sings like shit
Do nutsagis really?

[Anonymous No.]

Temaki's got some good guests, still no 10k again

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Voxsisters, not like this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856247
Cunny and singing skills of Gura
Comedy of Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Can we call Kobo "Vox killer" now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854806
They are, but HoloID has grown more since ID2. Back when ID2 debut, HoloID didn't have much events or hype like HoloFes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856239
>>21856241
Vox's peak is 14k

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Hold it,
Vox was at 12K.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856320
He was doing gacha, wasn't he? After peaking it was immediately a freefall

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Kiara dragging Mumei into stream EU hours if they are streaming in Mumei's channel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856396
mumei doesn't get dragged into anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856313
No but they did have the peak of western vtubing interest (and only 5 existing EN vtubers, 2 of which had extremely spotty schedules at that point) and pre-culled numbers at their back, and still fell off much quicker than ID3 has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856385
>Free VPNs ran out pureasu andstd

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo 300k subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856320
pretty bad for gacha pulling

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856320
>Chink game
>Chink time
>Gacha
>Fujobaits
14K

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856320
That's about 25% viewer drop. Is he Superchat reading now or still streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

think ollie's seething seeing the success of id3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856396
Mumei seems to be able to accommodate JP/EU hours easier than late afternoon NA time. That's probably when most of her classes are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856238
The rhythm of play really is bad for streams when compared to battle royals but br is cheating since they are many more chances to chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856446
Not to mention, Isn’t Zhongli the like main Chinese character in the game. He’a based on some like Chinese folklore or some shit I forgot.

Truly, the biggest panderer on the market

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
no. she's gonna leech off Kobo by collabing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
No but she might think of doing more Indo streams if Kobo is really able to bring in and keep that audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21853032
pic isn't exactly accurate since it literally costs anons nothing to bite bait and it's fun to see all the seething in the first couple of baitposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
no i think ollie is pretty ok with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854911
>what are you even talking about?
That Kobo is inclining further than Zeta. What the fuck did you think? Did you miss the fact that Kobo's been getting 10k subs minimum DAILY and hasn't slowed down a bit, since the 27th March?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856449
Nvm he still playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
She doesnt seem an insecure fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856449
I bit the bullet and watched his stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856536
does he listen to the chinese dub?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856499
All the characters are Chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Milord..please start making the cocksucking asmr noises..your humble cocksleeves cannot bear the humiliation

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856536
>160/160 resin
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856530
>She doesnt seem an insecure fag.
She's the most insecure ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
>Ollie
>the biggest fans of all in hololive
>seething
yeah no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856536
Kek, genshin is number poison, no sane people would watch normal playthrough of genshin

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
another day, another battle

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856585
>bounced back pretty quick after the self-dox
>Insecure
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
I fucking hope she stays the fuck away from ID3

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
Ollie is super wholesome! She's probably proud and crying of happiness for them. Also ID branch has more unity that any other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856591
???
Genshin has been buff content for multiple nijis

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856596
wow he's reclining hard
although why did EN got compared to ID? that's unfair for ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856559
Oh I know, but I remember back in the day there was so much drama from the CN community because Zhongli got released and he was weak. They made it political and accused Mihoyo (they’re TW I believe) of doing it to spite China. Shit was both ridiculous and hilarious. They chimped out over it so bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856457
No, Ollie is very much ID Gura in numbers humility and dedicated a lot of time saying her senpai were responsible for her success, including the 1 million celebration

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856596
What a graph...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856619
>took a break after reading some mean posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856628
>Genshin
>Buff
Roru Rumao
Unless you're streaming gacha pull, it's absolute snooze fest

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856591
>sane people
thats the catch, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
INGODS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

[Anonymous No.]

Ollie killed Moona's momentum by caging her in ID server

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856678
Anon, she literally in Kronii birthday totsu the next day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856685
Copechama

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856661
>numbers humility
No wonder. Despite the very aggressive networking, she's never even inclined past Moona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856596
Wait
Who said Vox was at 14K?

[Anonymous No.]

any reason why lamy is beating noel in ER?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856536
Holy shit he sounds like a fucking soundboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856658
>accused Mihoyo (they’re TW I believe)
No they're based in Shanghai. TW devs wouldn't block holos from streaming their games

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856792
Whenever people post vox numbers shilling him, you can safely cut a couple of thousands of if there is no pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856792
his peak was 14k

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856685
I don't give a shit if you fucking retard find them boring, but they still brought good numbers. Lize is the best example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856658
Mihoyo got taken over by the CCP a while ago anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856656
The real mistake is comparing males to females. They're not even after the same market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856841
>>21856792
You could just look at vrabi...
https://vrabi.net/video/Nb5NFXL7b_s

[Anonymous No.]

Is Zeta even going to hit 300k this stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21854567
All her far is stocked in her chest, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856792
>Who
Said Vrabi. Did you forget we have tools for numberfagging?

[Anonymous No.]

>kobo 7k
>vox 8.2k
shut up indogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856916
That is a nice mountain

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856888
Didn't they move out to Singapore to escape the CCP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856811
Idk about current stream but last time i check she accidentally teleported to higher level Area and somehow got big numbers... I don't know shit about Elden Ring tho

[Anonymous No.]

>hololive debuts a shark
>utterly dominates western vtuber scene upon debut, surpassed kizuna ai
>debuts an orca
>number fish breaks subscriber and superchat records as if they were nothing
>debuts a fountain
>destroys nijisanjiEN and JP on the regular
yeah, I'm thinking water types are based

[Anonymous No.]

Were u waiting for that? lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856946
you said that, vox immediately reclined to 7.9k

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856946
kobo back to 8k as you type this. So ???

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856946
Is that fear I see in you eyes, Voxsister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856946
How was the cope again?
>The very fact that they can compete as equals is proof that they are a massive success
Don't you love when karma hits your bullshit back at you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856959
If the did I haven't heard anything about it
And I assure you if they did move their hq to Singapore the local Weeb community would be raving about it
t. Singaporean

[Anonymous No.]

What's with Roberuy and being a ladies' man? Is he gay or something?

Never seen any other male vtuber have so many back to back collabs with girls in recent memory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856959
No, it's for easier distribution, Genshin is already part of CCP btw

[Anonymous No.]

Do not use the bait thread, I repeat do not fucking use the bait thread unless you want it to be as schizo-infested as this one was

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857037
Roberu's a ladies man

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856946
>Comparing him to indog
you're already lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857037
he's the boytoy of animare

[Anonymous No.]

imagine pitting your best against some indo kid with a water fountain on her head just to prove a point. an indo kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857037
More like our son is mentally being sexually harassed by these ladies

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857079
eh I will use the bait thread, it's easier to find

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857037
>Roberu
>gay
Animare will prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856959
not to escape exactly, but yes. much like bilibili (english) comics

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857109
He's enjoying it anon, you know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857037
Winning son having to fend off women's attempt at jumping his bones is pretty much the story of his life at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856959
Nah, CEO was "promoted" to a ministry of something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856959
the azur lane devs are the ones trying to move out

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
FUCKING THIRD TIME IN A ROW KEK

[Anonymous No.]

Holobronies mogged by the true King

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856144
Knees status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856959
Source? This is the first time I heard of it and I'm Singaporean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856979
Imagine not liking Mudkips even...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856979
the "Do you like Quagsire" guy in Twitter is actually a Cover scout in disguise

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856661
Ollie really show how hard the vtuber boom carried you in term of subs count .

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856661
>reversed begging as per usual
ollie is smart

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857037
Roberu’s been shown to be trustworthy among female vtubers. He doesn’t play into their advances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857159
Huh, will we see the return of Hololive event?
I need Aqua in my fleet dammit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856979
Unironically sounds EXACTLY like what gamefreak would do too.
>”Hey, remember our pokemon designs from gen 1? Yeah, fuck that. Lets release a keychain for a pokemon”

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857203
it's their subsidiary Cognosphere Pte. Ltd that handles the global stuff that is based there

[Anonymous No.]

Here is the list of all Niji streams over 10k today
>Kuzuha
>NijiEN boys

One of these days the KING will want to sleep until later and there won't be any NijiJP stream in the tally, something I don't recall happening during the current "final tally" era

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857203
>Its subsidiary Cognosphere Pte. Ltd. d/b/a, which is based in Singapore and is doing business as HoYoverse, manages all of miHoYo's global operations outside of China since February 15, 2022.
Taken from wikipedia

[Anonymous No.]

>>21856499
Genshin player here
Zhongli is basically the representative god of Liyue (A.k.a. Genshin version of Chinese)
So yes, max pandering

[Anonymous No.]

>>21857305
I always want to see Nasu unleash his autism on Hololive lore lol. Fate collab never