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What killed the hype?

>> No.2165784

Me.

>> No.2165816

>>2165760
>No new outfit
>No Live2D update
>No original song
>No 3D
>No outside collabs
Basically people realized having high NUMBERS don't mean anything magical will happen, more so for a chuuba who doesn't live in Japan

>> No.2165827

>>2165760
The eye of hype is insanely sporadic and spastic due to the modern technology and current philosophy of time spending

>> No.2165844

>>2165816
Anon that would be true if she was any less popular then her counterparts but she is in the top of vtubers and of English ones she is the leader

>> No.2165872

>>2165844
What does that have anything to do with what I just said?

>> No.2166276

>>2165844
The hype died anon. Give it up.

>> No.2166309

Herself

>> No.2170963

>>2165844
She gets barely more viewers than Flare half the time with 4 times her subs

>> No.2171197

>>2165760
Hers? No memes after "a". Although I expect her popularity to explode when she starts releasing original songs.

>> No.2171559

>>2165760
I see discord is moving on Kiara and the anti Gura spam has started

>> No.2171582

>>2165760
She's boring

>> No.2171650

>>2165760
She streams like 3 days a week and doesn't commit to any games she plays. I'm still waiting for her to build Atlantis in Minecraft. She never collabs with anyone either.

>> No.2171678

>>2165760
normies move on to the next new fad
gura just happened to be one of those fads

>> No.2171692

It's interesting to watch her crater her own growth, at least.

>> No.2171709

>>2171559
Indeed it has. I was wondering where all the chicken threads had gone off to. Dunno how much it's gonna catch on though, seeing as she doesn't yab. The most you can say about her is she's lazy and well...
...there you go

>> No.2171711

>>2171678
nah, they moved on to better vtubers. gura is just insanely boring to watch for anyone that isn't blinded by CUNNY

>> No.2171886

KFP making gura anti threads
have you guys notice the lack of Kiara anti threads but the increase threads of Gura anti? yeah you can check KFP discord with their plans.

KFP plans to attack most Hololive members starting from Gura, next week will be Ina, Ame will be the following week and Mori will be the last.

They also plan to raid Nijisanji EN once they started

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>>2171886

>> No.2171946

>>2171886
This guy REALLY hates the KFP.

>> No.2171970

>>2171886
t. OP

>> No.2172052

>>2171886
Stop leaking stuff from discord, they are now making people send a video with kiara on their phones to prove KFP member identity

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>>2171886
Still waiting

>> No.2172434

>>2171886
Correct! I was at their discord before and all i see was them making stupid raid stuff and praising kiara like an idiot just like their oshi

>> No.2172516

>>2165760
Gura should collab with Pekora in Portal 2, Pekora can only speak English and Gura Japanese. Imagine the chaos and memes that will come out of that.

>> No.2172869

>>2172516
Gura is not autistic enough to collab with Pekora, unless there's a bigger autist than Moona in EN gen2 she will be the only non JP with that privilege

>> No.2173001

>>2170963
Actually, what killed gura's hype is youtube stopped considering people using adblock humans.
She has like 4 to 8x flares viewcount on every video, but less viewers because her english audience probably mostly run adblockers, its kinda odd ain't it?

>> No.2173072

>>2165760
this isn't OPM

>> No.2173513 [DELETED] 

>>2171197
>I expect her popularity to explode when she starts releasing original songs.
after hearing the sorairo days cover, i don't.

>> No.2173666

>>2173072
fubuki appearing is enough hype

>> No.2173706

no GTA 5 nword
no scatman moment

>> No.2173707 [DELETED] 

>>2165760
Serious answer is time

>> No.2173882

She isn't doing anything with her fame, nor are her chumbuddies/shrimps

Pekora's Nousagis went on 2b2t and graffiti'd the entire map with her face in obsidian, while she made Usaken larger and made a Pekoland themepark.
In contrast, Gura streamed with Anya once, then did a song cover that could have used another take

>> No.2174059 [DELETED] 

>>2173882
it was not her best performance of the song, but no performance could possibly overcome the damage done to her vocal track in post-production. she'd have sounded better if he turned off everything and put a simple gain envelope on her. it could have been something worth listening to more than once, but the post-production effects turned it into something completely disposable and forgettable.

>> No.2175519

>>2165760
I really like the filter in OP's pic

>> No.2179717

>>2165760
the FBI begun to arrest her fans for being pedos

>> No.2179844

>>2165760
A great design and model was given to a talentless EN whore.

>> No.2179885

>>2165816
It's hard to do 3d if you are not living in japan. Agree about all other points

>> No.2180414

>>2165760
Other hype

>> No.2180580

>>2165760
People started noticing how disinterested and low energy she is in almost every game she plays, no matter how hard she tries to pretend otherwise. Her commentary is also not very good in general. The cute voice/model effect is starting to wear off and, without it, she doesn't have raw entertainment ability to carry the stream.

>> No.2180762

>>2165760
She didn't revert to Senzawa fast enough

>> No.2181286

She has less varied content than every other EN member and less content in general. And she definitely gets her ass kicked by certain JP members

>> No.2182746

>>2165760
1. no JP collabs

>> No.2183253

>>2165760
She is what she is, a rebranding of Senzawa.

>> No.2183881

>>2179885
What? You could do full body with a vive and some trackers like 3 years ago.

>> No.2184006

what? she has more views this week than the rest of En's last week...combined.

>> No.2184277

>>2183215
>this
I don’t want to bump or spam these hate threads.

>> No.2184568

>>2184277
So thin skinned.

>> No.2184633

Jay

>> No.2187577

>>2165760
She is a good singer, but her regular streams are boring as fuck. I tried to watch her Super Metroid VOD last week and half of it is just her screaming at random.

>> No.2188140

>>2170963
Wtf is this shit. You just straight up lied, Flare barely cracks 8k viewers with VOD of 50 to 80k views while Gura consistently gets 20-25k live viewers and around 400k views

>> No.2188822

>>2173882
>Pekora's Nousagis went on 2b2t and graffiti'd the entire map with her face in obsidian
Wow, didn't know about that somehow. Haven't followed the server in years. Also, can't believe fitmc is showing his fucking face now.

>> No.2188834

>>2188140
Vod views is flawed, i can click a stream many times and youtube will count it based on the clicks (you can see that en have more frequent spikes in their stream compared to jp btw), just accept it that gura is even below aqua when it comes to live views

>> No.2188883

>>2165760
She did on purpose. She's spent months purging her fanbase. She never wanted to be the "face" of hololive and has done everything to get people to watch other holos. I swear no one actually watched the 2 million stream or remember that she purposely didn't celebrate a single milestone. Before or after that stream.

>>2188822
He's a 30 yo boomer he doesn't give a fuck. Wait... was FitMC a Vtuber?

>> No.2189084

>>2165760
>was flavour of the month
>pople were curious how a memelord would voice a cute character
>was targeted by thots in twitter and people rallied behind her against people atacking Vtubers a a whole
>mention by pewdiepie
>bandwagoners
After all those were over they left, she didn't lose any fans, only the fuckton of tourists

>> No.2189218 [DELETED] 

>>2189084
i don't have the post link handy, but someone went back and looked at people who commented on her first member post on the community tab and a very high percentage were still members.

>> No.2189332
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>>2188834
>even below aqua when it comes to live views
kind of odd to use aqua as the bar here when her average after any supposed youtube viewcount-fuzzing is nearly 20k, which puts her above pretty much everyone except for pekora and marine

source: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC1opHUrw8rvnsadT-iGp7Cg

>> No.2189448

>>2171886
t. kfp

>> No.2189790

>>2188834
Live views don't count adblock users and not many people in JP use adblockers. That and there's the timezone difference for English viewers whereas there's only one timezone for JP viewers, so for an EN streamer, live view count isn't a good indication of popularity.

>> No.2195561

>>2189790
Jp members have to compete with other 10 plus hololive and other vtubers for live views while en doesnt have one vtubing wise

>> No.2196089 [DELETED] 

>>2189790
>Live views don't count adblock users
you know there is no concrete evidence for this, right?

>> No.2196541

>>2196089
I searched it up, turns out it might, so I downloaded this one chrome extension to unblock certain youtubers you want on ublock origin, so now all my favorite vchubas can have my ad watch revenue

>> No.2196777 [DELETED] 

>>2196541
it's just the same speculation bouncing around in an echo chamber. it's something people can test, and they have tested it. there is no concrete evidence at all.

>> No.2197132

>>2188822
not the whole map, just a large swathe,

>> No.2197185

>>2172097
man I really want to see this..

>> No.2197220

>>2171711
written by KFP hands

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>about to join Pekora
>membership is $6.99
>wtf
>check on my PC
>it’s still $4.99
>learn that you pay more on YouTube if you use an app

Wow I feel bad for all the ignorant people getting ripped off

>> No.2198546

>>2165760
Boring to watch and relies too much on her "cuteness".
Sorry Gura, but saying "I'm cute" is just not gonna cut it.

>> No.2198633

Gura is so funny, she has great comedic timing

>> No.2199560

Nothing. For me, it's still Gura.

Gura combines the loli aesthetic with a cute dumb personality. She is a vtuber for people who enjoy an unadulterated fun time. She doesn't even mind making jokes at her own expense to make her viewers laugh.

Be based, be a chumbud.
Based on what? Based on Gura.

>> No.2199663

>>2165760
time and a lot of small things not happening that accumulate up.

>> No.2203228

I only watch Lirik anyway.

>> No.2203584

>>2195561
There's lots of other non-vtuber streamers EN has to compete with.
>>2196089
It's more or less confirmed.

>> No.2211837

>>2196089
>>2196541
>>2196777
as much as I like vtubers im not letting youtube barrage me with ads and scripts 1000x an hour for them.

>> No.2212001

What part of "trends come and go" can /vt/ not get through its thick fucking skull?

>> No.2216466 [DELETED] 

>>2203584
>It's more or less confirmed.
it's unconfirmed. there is no evidence for it at all -- not "more or less". there's ZERO. there are no statements from youtube about it. it's something that people like you made up from whole cloth and repeat without evidence.

>> No.2218241

>>2189332
if I remember right she was closer to 14k average consistently until the solo-master challenge. but frankly she deserves every one of them

>> No.2221113

Speaking as someone who genuinely thinks Gura is a great entertainer, it's a combination of her rig being the least expresses of all the EN rigs (it basically has two expressions, mouth open and mouth closed), and the design of the character being a mismatch to her personality. She doesn't play into the loliness of her design at all, she's actually very levelheaded and feminine in a mature way. An elegant onee-san design like Reine's would've suited her better.

>> No.2222802

>>2165816
she collabed with Anya from HoloID last month
she did a song cover with matsuri last week
she doesn't live in japan shes gonna be a bit stuck with the resources Hololive can give her.

she's 3k from two and a half mil dawg

>> No.2224579

>>2222802
Not 3k, 30k

>> No.2224661

Why didn't Gawr "2.47M subscribers" Gura call Mori "1.24M subscribers" Calliope?

>> No.2224717

>>2171886
>attacking Ina
literally why? she's as irrelevant as she is right now

>> No.2224753

>>2224661
She was tired.

>> No.2224856

>>2173513
Isn't that cover nearing 1m views already? And on matsuri's channel.

>> No.2225333
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2225333

We know youtube is hiding a portion of the live viewers (read the right side of pic). We dont know if its adblockers or something else.

>> No.2225358

>>2165760
she doesn't do anything interesting

>> No.2225481

>>2165760
managers

>> No.2225516

>>2225333
Has Guras membership count gone down?

>> No.2225658

>>2165816
>No Original Song
Not even any meaningful covers. She was brought in on her singing talent but doesn't do shit with it.

>> No.2225677

>>2225658
Way to point out you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Gura has flat out said she never sang during her auditions.

>> No.2225700 [DELETED] 

>>2224856
so? it's getting there slower than an average holo cover, and it's a mess.

>> No.2225785

>>2225677
Show timestamps or you're a fucking liar.

>> No.2225790

>>2225333
Does point 1 take into account the possible situation where you can have less max viewers but more total views due to higher turnover?

>> No.2225975 [DELETED] 

>>2225790
there's a sharp and obvious inflection point in december when peak concurrent live viewers suddenly dropped off, while total viewers at the end of a stream remained the same. it coincides with a major decline in the reliability of chat message delivery and at one point the chat was so broken that holos couldn't use member stream chat at all and had to resort to just making member streams unlisted. people have conducted independent tests, setting up google chrome with no extensions installed, logging into accounts (even with youtube premium active) and run live streams while in continuous contact with trusted viewers while watching the viewer count. and viewers just blip in and out over the course of the stream.

this is a fact: youtube can no longer reliably count live viewers. it started in december. anyone telling you otherwise has not examined the evidence and is repeating information of much lower quality.

what significance that has, i don't know. i don't really care about that. i'm just sick of hearing people repeat rumors, when we KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. we have measured it. and the view count is fucking broken.

>> No.2226115

>>2225975
in january the chat was also completely fucked

>> No.2226123

>>2225975
rumao

>> No.2226431

>>2224579
I am bad at math

>> No.2229087

>>2165760
Gura and her empty promises.

>> No.2229945

she became lazy.
like every week she always misses one day, her stream only memebers went form movies, songs, other shit to 99% chat only. pretty much dropped her child act and slowly begin to be just herself talking random shit with not entertaiment value.

>> No.2230069

>>2203584
Not everyone watches vtubers retard

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>>2225333
>Muh vod
Look at how guras stream spiked so many times compared to pekora with same stream duration, thats how her avg vod views gets large no.

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