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When do you suppose EN will receive their 3Ds and who will get theirs first?

>> No.2151682

>>2151612
Mori because she's the only one in Japan and can use the syudio.

>> No.2151745

>>2151612
Mori because of >>2151682
Gura second because of numbers

>> No.2152731

>>2151682
I agree for the same reasons, plus she would probably make a music video with before the actual reveal.

>> No.2152893

>>2151612
Don't 3d debuts go in the same order of debut as to not be biased by sub numbers?

>> No.2156257

>>2152893
Roberu and (I think) Rikka are the only stars to have 3D's.

>> No.2159015

>>2151682
>le studio maymay
Start paying attention outside of Hololive.
Even indies are making Cover's 3D look like dogshit with home setups.

>> No.2159284

>>2159015

Oh man everyone keeps throwing the they need to go to Japan to do 3D streams on /r/hololive

Nah Cover needs to not cheap and hire some programmers so the software they are using has the capacity to use off the shelf stuff like Vive trackers.

>> No.2159363

>>2151612
If gura doesn't get her 3D first after being the first hologirl to reach 1m her shrimps would throw a shitfit and try to cancel cover

>> No.2159481

>>2151612
>>2151682
>>2159284
>>2159015
This industry is going to change very soon. Anyone in Cover unironically here needs to look into integrating their software with the next generation of VR headsets, specifically the Decagear and the upcoming Facebook Oculus iteration as these will have cameras built into them that will capture the user's facial expressions and mouth movements.

>> No.2159570

>>2156257
Roberu said it himself in his post debut debrief stream. The side projects (Stars, probably ID And EN) are only getting 3Ds if they can actually get to the Hololive offices.

>> No.2159691

>>2151612
>When do you suppose EN will receive their 3Ds?
Never
>Who will get theirs first?
Mori

>> No.2159731

>>2159691
Seethe

>> No.2159817

>>2159731
No.

>> No.2159861

>>2159817
Yes.

>> No.2160094

It's 100% going to be Mori

>> No.2160346

>>2159691
Seconding this. 3D is for idol shit. The rest of the world outside of Japan doesn't care for idol shit.

>> No.2160551
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>>2159015
>>2159284
>le home setup meme
Newfags need not apply because you clearly don't know how Hololive 3D debuts work. Those skits and concerts can't be handled by a single man. They need multiple people for this shit if you don't want it to be scuffed.
>cameraman
>the guy who's in charge of the virtual worldpsace (changing scenery, summoning props)
>stream operator (intermissions)
>sound engineer (for concerts)
>actors for the skits (like the terrorists in botan's debut)
Now imagine if the chuuba did all of this work herself simultaneously. Pro tip: It doesn't fucking work.

>> No.2160602

>>2151612
>When do you suppose EN will receive their 3Ds
When cover is competent enough to see demand for it and make 3D models along with a software that can be run from home setups that will require more than an iphone
>who will get theirs first?
Ame because she's the only holo that's set up home 3D before making her the perfect guinea pig

>> No.2160645

>>2160602
read the post above you

>> No.2160648

>>2160551
WELL it's technically possible to telepresence all this shit.
The Studio has these people:
>cameraman controls it by a virtual camera
>virtual workspace is synced like a video game
>sound engineer possible too
>Actors for skits
The chuuba connects to the system similiar to a VR chat session.
There is a latency issue, 200ms delay from japan to USA but realistically, you should already delay the stream to do some last second corrections anyway.
It's not great and would cost quite a bit to make but it's absolutely possible.

>> No.2160663

>>2160551
all of those things can be done remotely

>> No.2160693

>>2160648
>It's not great and would cost quite a bit to make
sounds like a good reason not to do it then. honestly what would the ENs even do with their 3D? Ame could do some weird shit maybe but even that will be limited since they need to be more family friendly and as far as i know the other ones aren't exactly master dancers so whats the point?

>> No.2160694

>>2160551
Yeah they need people, but the point is it doesnt have to be in a studio. These things can absolutely be done with a home set up, having a home set up doesnt mean doing everything yourself

>> No.2160706

>>2160551
>>2160645
>Cover is going to ignore massive demand
>Cover is a technology company that won't develop new technology
>Cover is going to fly 4 talents to japan for one stream each instead of just giving them the tools themselves
>Talents are incapable of doing 3D on their own despite when indies and Ame proving this false
Meds.

>> No.2160708

>>2160693
I think they should at least get 3D's to integrate with other things. You can use a 3D model for animations like Marine + canned stuff and like I said here >>2159481 there will be way more incentive to do something that is way more portable, that a studio wouldn't be required.

>> No.2160746

Cover has provided a few girls with home 3D. But it's a lot worse than the studio 3D. And keeping their equipment cost low is a part of their business plan. So, I doubt it's going to get better any time soon.
I find it hard to believe that any of the girls would do home 3D for their first 3D.

>> No.2160851

>>2160708
>You can use a 3D model for animations like Marine
oh yeah them making the 3D models could lead to some interesting shorts. Dunno how much it would cost tho.
And yeah cover innovating some would be pretty great

>> No.2160969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzRf-jayzSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4XffEt3mM
2021... already forgotten...
>>2159481
Cover already has a partnership with HTC who has the Pro Eye for eye tracking as well as a separate mouth tracker being released this year

>> No.2160988

>>2159481
>Technology means popularity
Anon even if Hololive have the same shit tech, they will still be popular as long as they have their talents. Kizuna Ai started as a 3D tech but Live2d has better aesthetic and more popular.

>> No.2161003

>>2160706
Literally all those things you said are true, these are japs we're talking about.

>> No.2161088

Hopefully Gura because her l2d rigging is still bad.

>> No.2161090

>>2161003
Cover is incompetent but they will give them all 3D sets
It just probably not going to happen until 2023

>> No.2161143

>>2161090
Excluding Mori.
She's already in Japan and not going anywhere soon, there's no need to delay her 3D debut. Unless you unironically believe the "she would feel bad for the other girls" meme.

>> No.2161550

>>2160988
Live2D only became popular because it lowered the barrier to entry into the VTuber market. Better aesthetics is debatable, but 3D tech offers much more options on what a VTuber can do compared to Live2D.

>> No.2162692

>>2160969
The latest Vive upgrade seems focused on commercial uses. No way they would use that Facebook trash. That would actually be a downgrade from the iPhone X they started with.

>> No.2162801

>>2162692
I should have said Vive enterprise instead of Vive commercial. Facebook doesn’t even have eye tracking yet so there is no reason to even entertain that idea. Facebook trash is basically a mobile app.
Vive already has eye, mouth and toungue tracking.

https://enterprise.vive.com/us/

>> No.2163232

Depending on where the other girls are in north america it's possible they could hire rent a studio to do it in. If it wasn't for the covid stuff though they'd just fly them into japan for a week to do it.

>> No.2163816

>>2163232
>Hey joe, good morning, so who rented the studio out today
>some japanese company, they are gonna do a live concert thing
>so a band and stuff
>no just one person, some girl named **** ******, does some online show under the name Gawr Gura
>oh cool
>knock knock
>come on in
>Hey im **** im here with Cover
>yeah cool, let's get you set up
>so are you like a singer or something
>you know anime?
>yeah
>i dress up like an anime shark and grown men im their 20s give me money, today I'm doing a special event with 3d tracking
>.....is it a sex thing? Cause we don't allow se...
>no, of course not, haha. Not a sex thing.
>20 minutes later
>Gwar Gura here, haha, ok chat, what do you wanna see, what? Under my skirt, haha, no that's lewd, haha, maybe a little, thank you for superchat
>hey joe we sure this isn't a sex thing
>i..i don't even know man
>They keep throwing money at her, is she like a virtual stripper
>she said is not a sex thing but she keeps making double meaning jokes and shit
>you think shes a hooker or a camgirl, imma try to hire her
That's how it's gonna go

>> No.2164122

Personally I think it would be after ID 3D debut

>> No.2164179

>>2163816
People that rent out studios don't care what you do as long as you leave the studio in prime condition. That's not how it's going to go

>> No.2164214

>>2164122
especially since it's rumored ID1 have their 3D models done

>> No.2164242

>>2152893
They do go by numbers, Towa was the last one of her gen to get one, and Polka was the first of her gen to get one.

>> No.2164272

>>2164214
yeah, I think Cover is waiting for Corona restrictions to end

>> No.2164324

>>2164242
yet Botan was and is the holo with most subs in her gen

>> No.2164360

>>2164179
This is cope, all studios have rules on what you can do. Also they are gonna talk behind her back and say she's a weird onine stripper.

>> No.2164368

>>2164324
No she wasn't back then

>> No.2164480

>>2160551
Holy fuck you are dumber than shit. Indies are literally blowing Cover the fuck out right now. I have been here way longer than you have, and I know how things have been done in the past.
Fact: EN will do 3D differently than JP.
Fact: it will be better than how they do it.

>> No.2164513

>>2164368
yes she was anon

>> No.2164522

>>2164179
Cover has already told Gura she has to pay half the studios rent fee with sexual favors to the studio staff

>> No.2164554

>>2160346
Then why do a bunch of western indies have 3D models that look and move better than Cover's?

>> No.2164582

>>2164480
>muh oldfag
okay anon

>> No.2164618

Mori will get hers first for a concert where the other Holos make cameos via screen to sing and shit

>> No.2165121

>>2164480
Well anonchama if the indies you speak of have oh-so high quality 3Ds why don't you give us some examples?

>> No.2165151

>>2164513
No she wasn't, buddy

>> No.2167872

>>2151612
At this point who knows. Cover doesn't seem to give a shit about putting out 3d models for their talents. Just look at how many indies and smaller companies have 3d models with just as good of tracking as Cover's models. Hopefully Cover will get their shit together at some point.

>> No.2168761

>>2164360
I have rented (and run) a mocap studio before, have you?

>> No.2168911

>>2151612
Ina is unironically going to be the most entertaining with a 3D model. Have you seen how often she bobs and vibes with music?

>> No.2174868

Never ever

>> No.2180801

Realistically, Mori. Would probably be chicken if she were still in Japan just because she'd be hustling for it

>> No.2180936

>>2161003
lol

>> No.2180958

>>2151612
>When do you suppose EN will receive their 3Ds
I'd assume after Nenechi's or ID gets some.
>who will get theirs first?
Mori.

>> No.2180979

>>2161143
what are you talking about? she would. I'm sure Mori wouldn't do a 3D debut if her genmates had to wait months for theirs, when it happens theyll all be relatively close together

>> No.2180984

>>2159363
They wouldn't even let her acknowledge getting 1 million and totally promised something for it instead that never happened. It won't happen and they'll just give it to Mori since she lives in Japan and thus gets preferential treatment for everything.

>> No.2181145

>>2168911
nah sorry tako but the one who will make the best use of her 3D will be Ame, Ina bobs around and its cute but Ame plays around with her model constantly and you can tell she really wants to put on a visually entertaining and fun to watch show, Ame's 3D debut will be legendary

>> No.2181919

>>2151612
>When
Even if we get the coof under control within the next couple of months, I think them getting it this year is unlikely before ID1, at least one of the stars, and Nene. If we do, It will be late November-sometime in December.
>who will get theirs first?
Mori unless Cover pushes hard for Gura.

>> No.2182001

>>2159284
Cool, but they won’t for now yeah they gotta go to Japan so it’ll be Moria and then they’ll fly in the big number Gura

>> No.2182102

>>2160346
All the fans like it you’re just autistic and dislike things to be contrarian

>> No.2182191

>>2161088
Her mouth tracking is better than Ame but Gura could also try moving a little more but I think Gura and Ame could use better tracking

>> No.2182333

>>2164214
Risu with a normalish face will be weird im so used to her sideways derp face

>> No.2182427

>>2181145
Ame is the only one with 3D experience really idk if HER used it

>> No.2182840

>>2182427
Im confident in saying that she never did, I think I wouldve seen that by now, but I'm by no means an authority on pre-hololive Gura so take that with a grain of salt

>> No.2183194

>>2182191
teeth technology i believe makes up for that mouth tracking

>> No.2183380

>>2183194
She doesn't even have fucking bottom teeth anon

>> No.2183466

>>2183380
I was referring to ame, her smile is to die for, gura's teeth tech is lacking 50% of her teeth

>> No.2183825

>>2183466
Oh in that case I agree completely, Ame's mouth movements are so fun and her smile is so so cute. In the mahjong collab she made some bad joke and then grinned like an idiot while Ina and Kiara cringed, it was the cutest thing I've ever seen

>> No.2184153

>>2160346
Westerners are fine with "idol shit". Just not stuff that's mainstream in Japan like AKB48 or MomoClo since that type of music is gonig to be "too anime".

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>>2183825
pure heaven, that moment was great

>> No.2184844

>>2164480
I've seen a Lot of 3d indies and they can only can move their character. Not stages, actors, props. Not at a Hololive 3D debut level. It's good for normal streams but not for a debut

>> No.2185108

After ID1 receive theirs

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