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>BUYRYS BIRTHDAY MERCHhttps://shop.hololivepro.com/products/irys_bd2022>STREAM IDENTITYhttps://youtu.be/SqrwHmo_sGg >LISTEN TO JOURNEYhttps://cover.lnk.to/journey>Latest streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdYFeuMXkLc>Archives (Songs, Clips, Spaces, Misc.)https://mega.nz/folder/PJljFaDC#bERcB4FtvuLJpahT2AFb5Qhttps://rentry.org/irysoundbits>Channel / Twitter / Streamlinkhttps://youtube.com/channel/UC8rcEBzJSleTkf_-agPM20ghttps://twitter.com/irys_en>MUSICFirst EP https://irys.streamlink.to/CoDhttps://youtu.be/bhkfm1dX7BM https://youtu.be/Lxr3BV-t0Tc https://youtu.be/y2vrlxmOp7U https://youtu.be/-t8Za0T1T8M >IRyS Statushttps://i.miss.irys.moe/>Previous thread>>21373616
No teamates allowed.
>>21395457But what should i do IRyS....what should i do?
>>21395552bless. IRyS love
>>21395552Hey, that'll be a $250USD akasupa fine.
Project HOPE logo is back again.
>>21396225This is you.
>>21396071Why didn't we use this as the OP image. Bread maker, please use this one for the next thread. Thanks!
>>21396712Because I'll use it when the song is out on her channel
>>21396712He can use it later.
>>21395649>>21396225>>21396587You two are always hitting each other. Stop it. I'm starting to think you guys will suddenly make out or something. Also, Ame is sweet with IRyS whenever they interact. Let the teammate alone.
It's fine anyone can lurk, just don't shit up the thread, get a soda and chill out, cheers
>>21396819>Let the teammate do his thing. It's fine.Sorry about that
>>21396712OP can barely type in English, cut him some slack.
>>21396857i only have tea
>>21396915I can accept the teammate but this tea drinker needs to go.
>>21396910whoops sorry about that, I was in a hurry
>>21396819shut the fuck up and go back to your autistic fanfic hole clockbeat.
>>21396857Should have kept that shit in the previous thread.
>>21396915Is this supposed to be an attack on the sapling? what is this...
>>21397059What is a clockbeat? Kek You are sperging way too early
>>21396819It's supposed to be banter but it seems it started some shit, I'll stop. I will no longer call him a teamate even if he uses a teamate ritualpost.
>>21397307why no youtube premiere cover?
Maybe the topic thing?
>>21397330I'm kind of getting paranoid with the amount if crazies we have been getting. That's on me. Some >>21397330are acting like old grumpy men. Some probably are. If it's banter then I won't call you out on that anymore. I did try to be nice when pointing you out by saying you might end up making out with the teammate.
we need a balance like in a sense that it 99% HiRyS shit we do all the time and maybe 0.5% other shit
>>21397307This is disappointing. It's a really decent song. Why can't they spend a few hundred bucks to have it on her channel? This is just BS.
>>21397703As long as he is a bottom i wouldn't mind at all, teamates are small and gay.
>>21397835>small and gayIRyS will love that.
>>21397842Sorry, I'm doing multiple things at once, it happens
>>21397812Is it only a few hundred bucks?
>>21397874>IRyS clad in tight leather suit dominating femboy
>>21397952It can be if you are on a tight budget. They already commissioned the art for it and all
>>21398042People here would complain still.
I'm starting to think that this retarded sperging out when someone mentions other girl is some falseflagging. I understand pointing out that it is IRyS general, but this hostility is unnessesary toward anyone that isn't deadbeat.
>>21398227Anon. Where's the cheese to meet you? Mating press is waiting.
>>21398227yeah post the cheese to meet you. IRyS needs to let off some steam now
If only there was a general where all Holos are on topic
>>21398306>>21398362I'm not this anon. I just like the idea of IRyS taking advantage of barely legal college rat
>>21398645The rrat is 22...
>>21398635>>21398645>grooming a 12 years oldyou are so going to jail IRyS
>>21398645Bae is more mature than IRyS
Never have I ever wanted to be a fucking rodent
>>21398835>*Draw dicks on everything in sight*Uh huh, of course
>>21398838You don't want to be mating pressed by IRyS anon. you won't survive
>>21398895Only reason IRyS doesn't do that is that her manager is less fun.
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1509188920415821832作詞(Lyrics):真崎エリカ作曲(Music):山本恭平(Arte Refact)編曲(Arranger):山本恭平(Arte Refact)Jacket Illustration:いずみけい
>>21399012i guess i have to thank omega for that
>>21397952You don't really need to spend any money. There's nothing stopping them from just releasing the song on he channel without an MV, especially if they have no plan of making one for the song in the near future.
>>21399186They just need to make her channel an Artist channel.
>>21398691Google japan consent age
>>21399449time to go to jail IRyS
>>21398835Didn't she had meltdown around her debiut when Kronii took her banter too far?
>>21399603Bae just had her birthday. Checkmate brat.
I love IRyS, she's a cute dork
>>21399093so no MV this time? sort of weird, but ok
I hate IRyS
>>21399603Too bad that IRyS is as old as here is Hope in my heart, so this will be less than 1 year old, so they are both crabs in japanese, so they are allowed to have sex
Sex with the Nephilim
Boutaheading out for a bit. Do we havean exact time for the song's release? Or that we only have an estimated time?
>>21400382March 31 midnight your time.
>>21399603>many prefectures also have local "corruption of minors" or "obscenity statutes” which raise the de-facto age of consent to 16-18, unless they are in a "sincere romantic relationship", usually determined by parental consent
IRyS has been replaced in KIRA...
Wait, so no Youtube release? Bummer
>>21400958I know I should be sad, but that scuffed shit is fucking hilarious ahahahahahaha. Next time IRyS, next time. 100% she has something to do.
>>21401078It's on the same date as Mori's birthday
>>21401184good, finally she is going to fuck off and be absent for months and IRyS can strenghte her bonds with other members, maybe even JPs.
>>21401453Her announcement could be anything... I won't get too excited about it yet.
>>21401723she already said what it is, its a multiple months hiatus to go do roomate bullshit
>>21401832Prepare for the influx of deadbeat tourists.
>>21401832PRAISE EVERY GODS FROM EVERY EXISTING RELIGION
>>21401832I haven't seen that anywhere.
>>21401957Have you tried mori's general?
>>21401832I’ll believe it when it happens, and not one second sooner.
>>21400958who are these people and whose schedule is this
>>21402067Reine, Kronii, Anya, Fauna and Reine's
Yeah, no celebration just yet. Do not jinx it now. Too bad she dropped the collab for the pink bitch, though, but ah well, what can you do?
Too far guys, you can stop now.
>>21402103It's just 3 days. And it's in Hawaii. Maybe IRyS will take a break and go there with her.
>>21402172>spoilerI'll rape your ass, stfu aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>21402223Spring time is here
>>21402172OH NONONONONONO PLEASE NO AAAAAAAAAAA
>>21402221No, she won't be there.
>>21402172Without any official function there, she likely doesn't have the time for such a trip.
>>21402395Holos can take 1-2 week breaks without any issue.
>3 daysToo fucking short.
we are getting an MV afterall
Can someone catbox her song? I don't know why it isn't on Youtube Music like every other song. 10 bucks for spotify fuck off.
>>21402550April 1st release? She really is a joke to them…
>>21402103What the fuck is this? Everyone that's attending look like those retarded feminist fags on twitter
>>21402434Yea but this is IRyS we're talking about. She normally gives a reason for whatever.
>>21402550I swear to god if Lumina is the one making the MV again
>>21402665It's there if you're already on the 31https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1rEe7UR4No
Damn it I have to wait...
>>21402894There's a vocaroo either in this thread or the last, is that not good enough?
>>21402908>>21403107I can wait guys, it's fine
>>21402665>not buying all of her musicIt's an easy way to support her.A shame iTunes doesn't sell lossless music though. I'd use one of the other services but iTunes is better for EOPs
Just wait it doesn't matter.
>>21403298I thought Spotify was free anyway...
>>21403334free with ads
>>21402665This retard doesn't know how to inspect element
Why waste time doing that?
>>21403235It's pretty easy to buyJust use a JP VPNOtotoy is even in English https://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/1193816
>>21403655I got it on Mora though
>>21403655I have access to a Japanese VPN. I'm not going to buy it twice though (I know some people do that).
So, IRyS is wearing a kimono on the new single cover. I'm assuming that it doesnt have an mv yet because its tied with the long delayed release of her new year's outfit.
>>21404479Don't huff too much hopium
>>21404479With Cover in mind, I expect nothing.
>>21404479At this point it is less delusional to think that IRyS will go on date with (You) than to expect that cover will treat her fairly
Damn it's just an assumption, you made him look like an asylum patient...
>>21403655IRyS needs to promote more the purchase of her songs, if she can't get the views at least she should try to get all the money she can from them
>>21404994She's not treated that badly; she was in 3 holofes streams for example.
do I need to wait for 3/31 in the US to buy if I don't want to purchase with vpn?
>>21405248Cover should put them on more EOP stores. I know I said I won't buy her songs twice but simps will. If they put it on Amazon and BandCamp (in addition to iTunes) and simps buy from all 3 that's 3x the votes in charts (each purchase counts unlike streaming).
>>21405551Journey was on more storeshttps://cover.lnk.to/Journey
>>21405551They are on amazon if you search them, but most of people probably don't know. She needs to promote the "buy to support me"more than "stream x", at least with the originals.
>>21406454That'll put off the casual watchers and normies
>>21405681Only in Japan though. You won't find it on localised Amazon stores for example. I assume there's a logistical reason for this unless Cover is just dumb and never thought of this before.
>>21406560>>21406454Deleted that. You're right that it shows up if you search for it. They should fix the link on their site to redirect to the correct store.
>Japanese songI love her but all weeb songs sound the same, there's like 3 types of songs, The world is beautiful, the world is fucking exploding and the world is cruel and lonely.
>>21406697shiiiiit that sounds better than all the break up songs, doing drug songs, look at my money songs and being in love songs
>>21407040I-I wouldn't mind a being in love song...
>>21407098She minds. It'll be a "we're toxic and should all fuck off" song.
>>21407154Is she wrong though
>>21407098do you think her originals songs moving forward will still be tied to her lore of being "HOPE"
>>21407154so anime version of avril lavigne XD
>>21407215She's not wrong, being in love is such a waste of time.
>>21406540Just saying "stream x and if you want to support me you can also buy the song on amazon" isn't going to filter anyone
>>21407306being in love isn't a waste of time. it's like eating a nice meal. you were hungry before but now you're full and you enjoyed yourself. you will get hungry again and you'll have another meal in the future. enjoy what you have and look forward to the next one
>>21407321I doubt she knows where her songs can be bought other than mora and ototoy
>>21407215She's wrong. My love is real and sincere. She'll never understand though.
>>21407540AAAAAHHHHHH. love metric
Everyday... it gets harder and harder... please
>>21408112Bro, go see a doctor, erections shouldn't last more than a couple hours.
>>21408112as it should be. more weight means stronger muscles. good on you for lifting heavy. stay strong brother, you can do it.
>>21405248Or perform them live more often.
>>21407154IRyS, don't hate us...
>>21408377she say's they're hard and she doesnt have the stamina to do them live
no stream tonight huh...
>>21408443They actually are like super super difficult
>>21408377That too, also small trailers like Reine/Suisei
Some of you guys are alright...don't come to HIRyS tonight
>>21408490Time to do your reps whatever they may be.
>>21408571I want to be shot by IRyS though
>>21408443This one is doable. Would have liked to hear a live Flower of Hope too. I don't think HERE COMES HOPE is that impossible either.>>21408490I think there'll be one. T5 stream tomorrow too.
Are there any differences in the youtube 'tiers'
>>21408713The higher ones cost more.
>>21408739Woah really damn
>>21408713For EN the only girl that paywalled stuff behind higher tiers was Mori, for JP I think there's a few that still have higher tier stuff like Roboco.
>>21408802>paywalled stuff behind higher tiers was Morino surprise there....
>>21408630i can't remember the last time she streamed the same day as a t5 stream
>>21408895October but it was a forced collab.
>>21407040listen to some real music, irystoshit
>>21396819Amelia Watson is fucking cancer. Teacucks deserve nothing but derision and scorn.
>>21409160We're contrarians here. We automatically dislike "real music".
Wew lad, definitely not a falseflagger.
>>21409130yeah i wasn't counting that one
>>21409469What does "real music" even mean? I really don't know anymore.
We already determined in her last unarchived karaoke that she should sing songs about wanting to bang dudes.
>>21409469>contrariansor just dont force yourself to listen to one type of music. there's plenty of good stuff out there if you take a look. except country and whatever country rap is trying to be
>>21409623>country rapThat sounds like the worst fucking thing i've ever heard of
I dare you fags to post your 5x5.
"I like everything except country and rap teehee" is the most basic take imaginable.
>>21409567You faggots probably listen exclusively to one of the three genres most popular with children (metal, rap, or pop).And this obsession with lyrics about women, money, etc. only ever comes from the kinds of faggots who listen to queer shit like Radiohead.
>>214097335x5=35easy. dont worry anon you'll get it right eventually, just keep studying
I like everything but pop country and mumble rap :^)
>>21409784You've never been on /mu/ before, have you?
>>21409798I hate everything including country and rap
>>21409798rap is good. country rap should burn in fire
>>21409835I can guess without ever visting it that it's a terrible board
>Jan drew NSFW of meWtf man..
>>21409938Reported for doxxing me
>>21409817Shit, i forgot it was 3x3.
>>21409817That is 20 you retard
>>214100433x3=69i gotchu. this homework is easy man
>>21409938Where did Jan draw this?
>>21410182lol even gayer
>>21410204Beats listening to the ones you mentioned in your post.
>>21410182pffft imagine listening to vaporwave and trying to be serious
You fags are going to hell.
How her songs sound have everything to do with which producers they chooseI really wish they'd choose more people along the lines of Kenmochi Hidefumi, Yasutaka Nakata, Aiohbahn, or Taku InoueKizuna Ai's songs are mostly all great because of how good all the producers she got were
>>21410480Just anyone with a modicum of talent or inspiration really
>>21410471we all are. enjoy the ride and dont take yourself too seriously. also stream JOURNEY!
>>21410527The composer for Sparks of Joy is the same guy that did Suisei's Ghost and everyone likes that song.
imagine being faggot enough to talk about music taste with another anon
>>21410480Feels like management is shooting her in the foot at every turn and she doesn't mind at all. Like she just wants to stream and sing what she's told to sing, like that's enough for her. "I just want to be clipped." You got your wish, girl.
>>21410618People like Suisei's songs because they're by Suisei, not because they're any good
>>21410648But Ghost is a big part of how she got popular.
>>21410639>she doesn't mind at allare you fucking retarded dude shes not going to complain about management on stream
>>21410648ghost has suisei lyrics, its about getting respect as a singer even if you are a vtuber
>>21410626your taste in music is shit and you eat stale hard boiled eggs for breakfast.
>>21410639Clippers, i hate their guts.
>>21410678and I repeat my last postThey like Suisei because she's an idol on the idol journey making idol songs, not because the songs are actually good
>>21410110What? Are you not familiar with Gura math?
>>21410639Kek. It's a pretty sad dream when she basically only gets clipped for yuribait or things like saying daddy
>>21410618Journey on the whole was great. Out of all stuff she put out it's the best. Every song is catchy and very re-listenable. If someone who's not an ESL took a second look at the lyrics it would genuinely be a fantastic EP.>>21410689I'm talking about pushback, not complaining. She's not the one making decisions and she seems to be fine with that.
>>21410794That's an EN problem in general, wish that paid clipper idea Ame tried actually panned out
>>21410863>she seems to be fine with that.Again, how would you fucking know?
>>21410762In the MoRyS karaoke, their performance of Ghost was one of the best part of the whole thing. The climax into the silent part of the song is pretty hype.
>>21410794it just speaks to how longs she's been in the industry. when you come from nothing and finally get success, the goals you had at the start seem trivial.
>>21410883Other types of clips won't get views so the idea is dead in the water.
>>21410639That actually fucking hurt me psychologically. What did you typed into search? She had much more and funnier moments where she weren't like this
>>21410892back when I didn't hate pink woman
>>21410972He obviously typed YabaiRyS
>>21410972>>21410639all clips are retarded shit like this, Irys doesn't have it worse than anyone else
>>21411014IRyS has it worse for sure. (Well, if you think it's a bad thing.)
>>21410972I just searched "IRyS" and it showed a wide variety of clips, anon must have typed "yabairys" or something.
>>21411053Nah, it's just like that for everyone else, and Irys doesn't have any [SAD NEWS] or dramabait clips
>>21410887I don't. That's just my impression. Has she ever said "this is the producer I really wanted to work with" or "I worked really hard with the songwriter to convey a specific theme" or "It was important to me that exactly this part sounds wishful and dreamy". She always talks only about singing, like a job - she showed up on time and did what was required of her. She did a good job, she can be proud of doing a good job, but it's still just a job. And I'm not criticizing her (if she feels this way, sure, no problem, that doesn't change anything), just posting my opinion on why things the way they are.
>>21410991Congrats, you are easily influenced by anonymous online schizos. you are probably a weak person in your life. "Pink woman" is fine and always has been. Tough grass faggot.
>>21411134It is her fucking jobShe's managed by whoever, she doesn't have any input, she doesn't write the songsShe's hinted many times that she's unhappy with things, but she can't outright complain about it
>>21411175what if you always hated pink woman from the start?
>>21410863Most of Journey was produced by the Myth and Roid producers, the ones that made Here Comes Hope All in all, I think they need to explore and expand the scope of who's writing her songs or exploit and get someone that really works well with her style and stick with them.Nene has higedriver and Towa has nikkiIRyS can stick with the Myth and Roid producers or expand to try other ones
>>21411175You don't have to defend her here, deadbeat.
>>21411217No more hotaru... please...
Kek, it's timeloop o'clock.Newfags better learn from this free lecture on /HiRyS/.
>>21411217She has to find what her style is first.
>>21410626It's like this every time IRyS releases new music. Suddenly /HiRyS/ is full of musicologists.
>>21411358She already knows what her style is, she just needs a talented musician to actually write good songs for her
>>21411406What is it?
>>21411395always has been
>>21411423She is a great fit for the songs she's been given, like on the Journey album, the songs themselves just aren't very good
>>21411175Congrats, for being a fan of a disgusting manipulative bitch who continue to support the whore through all the shit she's done.
>>21411496Journey is great faggot
>>21411496in her birthday stream I thought IRyS was going to cry when she said stream everything because it's my birthday. she probably put in a lot of effort to work with what she got and seeing all the low numbers hurt her
>>21411358The songs people like her singing the most tend to be the ones that sound like Utada Hikaru songs or Identity
>>21411555She was near crying because of the support from everyone.
>>21411553It's good but it too cliche
>>21411195But in contrast, explain Calli's greater control over her production processes, which includes selection of people whom she works with on her music.
>>21411627>clicheahhh a buzzword from somebody who has no idea what they are talking about.
I'm looking for a certain pic. It was Gosling with this IRyS in the background. Searching archives but can't find it. Please help.
>>21411496I still think she sounds better in some of her karaoke covers than on her songs. Especially on ballads. Her voice just sounds different when she sings someone else's songs.
>>21411541>all the shit she's doneShe hasn't done anything bad. I think you need to step away from /vt/ because your brain is being rotted away by schizo bullshit.
>>21411655It sounds like an album from 2005The stuff that they're doing has been overdone>>21411648Calli is a musician, Irys is a singer
>>21411648Because Cover pays for all the music production aside from the Identity cover.
>>21411648It's easy. Mori pays for it herself AND she has the drive to create her own music.
>>21411623I love iwys
>>21411555I do think that one of the things that she isn't happy about is her numbers. It is disappointing to see other member's original doing better than hers even though she sings much better than them.
>>21411781Yeah she should be less of a numberfag.
>>21411715You are a dumb shit if you believe everything posted is schizo bullshit. Keep drinking that lean cuckbeat.
>>21411753Not this one. It was sex edit.
>>21411819It's unreasonable to expect someone not to care about not being successful
>>21411781>even though she sings much better than themthis is what i dont get. the stuff from council is shit (except bae's I liked hers) but everyone is huffing their shit saying "ooh its sooo heavenly" or "mumei hit it out of the park"
>>21411830>leanSee what I mean? You are creating narratives in your head because you want to be part of the "cool kids" of /vt/. Mori hasn't done a single thing wrong, is the hardest worker in EN (and arguably all of Hololive), and is super supportive of everybody. Mori has done more to promote IRyS than IRyS has done herself for crying out loud.
>>21411895Mumei and Bae's original songs are good
>>21411876its this one then
>>21411906>Mori hasn't done a single thing wrongstop it, this is not your split, i dont want to argue bloody Mori retardation here.
>>21411781Numbers are all a popularity contestShe just doesn't have as many tourists because they probably got filtered by her model or because she isn't formally in any genShe gets relatively good views on her streams, but those are all from dedicated viewers that didn't get filtered and realized she's actually a good streamer
>>21411648>explain Calli's greater control over her production processesI don't need to explain anything, she talked about this exact thing herself. I'll try to find the exact stream and timestamp, but basically, she pays for everything, so she has complete creative control. For IRyS, cover pays for everything, cover has complete creative control.
These great days are long gone...
personal rrat but when IRyS said she was unhinged after watching mori's concert and streaming right after. I like to think she was upset that mori could half ass her way to several "hits" while IRyS is still struggle to hit those big numbers for her stuff
>>21411955Yes, much obliged.
>>21411892Depends on how you define success. She's more successful than many.
>>21411906She hasn't done more to promote IRyS than IRyS has for herself quit exaggerating.
>>21411781She sucks at shilling her songs, just like Watame. They need to become more shameless and hype it up before hand too.
>>21412029She's successful as a Hololive member, her vsinger project isn't really succeeding
Real deadbeat hours around here huh
>>21411941>Mumeishe sounded like a toy chipmunk that was getting squeezed too hard
>>21412014Lol no. If anything she idolizes Mori and think she's 100 times better than her.
>>21412062Watame's songs are also mediocreYou guys don't know how to tell if music is good or not, you think it's all about marketing
>>21411719>It sounds like an album from 2005That's a bad thing?
>>21412062Watame's case is a shameI think it might've been because she just released too many songs too quickly and people got desensitized to new song releasesEven though she pretty much poured her whole soul into My Song
>>21412123I just don't see the appeal in Bae or Mumei's orisongs but I don't think IRyS' are that great either.
>>21412152generally you want to make something that sounds fresh
>>21412161Why is it a shame? She sells a lot of albums on mora/ototoy.
>>21411895Promotion is fucking KING.Mumei teased her song on debut. She kept brining it up on the streams. Other council members mentioned it. Release was announced beforehand. It was released as a premiere. As a full MV. Others talked about it after release. And it's a decently catchy song. Bada-bim-bada boom, 2 million views.Meanwhile>radio silence except "Recording today sure was something, whew" on twitter>announcement on the day it's releasing>no MVWow, thanks, love it. I'm sure it'll do like gangbusters.
>>21412307Irys talked about Journey way more than Mumei talked about her song
>>21412358No she didn't, lol. The Journey schizo was a thing specifically because IRyS wouldn't talk about it.
>>21412358>5 months of hype buildup>Announced it during the kimono reveal>Announced it again during an unarchived karaoke with more viewers than IRyS' half-year anniversary>Did a post-release stream where she got emotional and showed a personal connection to the song>Front page sticky on the hololive reddit>More retweets from HoloEN
>>21412217If you only care about trendsetting, yes. I want IRyS to be successful based on the merit of her work because she is a fantastic singer with a beautiful voice, not because she releases something "fresh" that the untold masses lap up.
>>21412429No, if you want to make good music it has to be fresh, it's not just about setting trends, you can't keep rehashing shit>>21412419I remember her talking about it in every stream for a while
>>21412010Pre-December sure was something..
>>21412504She would say "Stream Journey" in every stream but that's pretty much it.
take care guys. stream journey! and drink some water
>>21412562what else do you expectit's hard to fake interest in something, she doesn't have any genmates to shill it eitheralso she releases so many songs it's hard to pretend to be interested in them. Mumei has released one song. How many has Irys released? 10?
>>21412504You don't know what good music is. It's okay to release music reminiscent of the past, not everything has to be "fresh".
>>21412630The songs have to be more catchy and more interesting if they're going to be cookie-cutter like that.
>>21412014If this new song is mostly japanese with a few random english words added in it should be fine.All of her english songs are esl messes. Written and timed in japanese by someone japanese and not properly translated in to english because that also requires properly timing and flowing with the song.
>>21412630>not everything has to be "fresh"It kinda does actually, that's the princple of novelty and what makes people interested in things
>>21412220The amount of views/growth (which are likely correlated to album sales) aren't that high even though she probably invested several more times of work and money into it>>/vt/thread/S21059738#p21072631
>>21412874Not everyone can be on top.
>>21395164/r/ing Mario Kart "oh shit, Im coming" YabeRys.I know one of you fucks made it.
>>21412744Good music is good, it doesn't matter if it follows a tried and true cookie-cutter approach. As long as it is good, people will listen to it and IRyS can grow and reach more people.
>>21413164if you're making cookie-cutter music it needs to be better than what Journey is to get people interested in it
>>21413224It just needs to sound good. Most of the complaints from regulars /here/ centre on ESL-lyrics and how they can sometimes be awkward. IRyS does her best here though and still manages to make it work.
>>21413594"sound good" doesn't mean anything, you need to dissect what makes music appealing to people
>>21413594Akatsuki to Hana is good and easy to listen to and doesn't suffer from these problems but it's not a song that will get a complete tourist to fall in love with her music.
>>21413652need emotional impact, viral appeal or original approach, all we can hope for IRyS is viral appeal, and that can be achieved if its attached to something.
>>21413828you're just rewording the same thing without approaching what makes a song good or not
>>21413828Viral appeal like Unison?Emotional appeal like Kiseki Knot?First one seems pretty doable, second one might be hard
>>21413828Many songs on Journey have emotional impact. Yet somehow this is not enough. It's not enough to make you feel, it has to be "fresh".She did a great job on Journey and you should all be praising her.
>>21413949You're getting mad at what I said in this thread, the numbers speak for themselves, don't act like I'm the one ruining her career, I'm just playing doubles advocate
>>21413989It's not my fault if people like you have shit taste.
>>21413949It'll sound a bit harsh but the only time I feel like she is good at sounding emotional is at 4:10 in Yuki no Hana. Nothing else has come close.https://youtu.be/y4zr6fZ058w?t=255
>>21413989Devil’s advocate, not doubles
>>21414036I didn't say it was bad
>>21414237The implication was there. Don't backtrack, you've been shitting up this thread all day now.
>>21414121Man, such a beautiful voice.
>>21414274NTA but oh nyo
>>21414274>The implication was thereNo it wasn't you fucking retard
>>21414286Yeah that's why I want to hear it in her own songs...
>>21414304Yes, it was. Don't resort to ad hominem by calling me a retard.
>>21414331You are resorting to ad hominem by implying I'm trying to say Irys's album is bad by offering fair criticism of itAssuming everyone is out to attack what you like is the cancer killing this website
>>21414380ESL-chama, you don't know what ad hominem is. I never personally attacked you. If you think Journey is good then let's discuss its good points.>What do you like about it?
>>21413949thats not emotional impact, thats singing with emotion, those are different things, examples, towa's cover of Error, isnt just about how well she sang it, it was also about what she was going through in real life, people were invested in the narrative, that for me is an emotional impact. Dont get me wrong, IRyS can deliver a wide range of emotions while singing and i would even say thats what she does best, but theres too little story to follow, watch her explode in views if she sings one last kiss, because its a song she always sings and is already part of her story.
>>21414406It's a personal attack. Assuming the worst of my motivations for no reason is an attack on my character
>>21414436>IRyS can deliver a wide range of emotions while singing and i would even say thats what she does bestThat's a minority opinion. The main complaint with her singing is that she isn't good at conveying emotions and I don't think it's completely unfounded.
>>21414455It's not an attack on your character but an interpretation of the shitposting on display here. You need to do a better job at articulating your thought if this interpretation is wrong. You still didn't elaborate on what you like about Journey. Perhaps you can change my opinion of you?
>>21414581>You need to do a better job at articulating your thought if this interpretation is wrongNo I don't. I didn't say anything that suggested it was bad. You incorrectly assumed that for no reason at all. I don't give a shit about your opinion of me
>>21414625If I am barking up the wrong tree it is your fault for directing me that way.
>>21414436Her songs so far definitely have story to follow, to me the problem is its not her story. IRyS and council both came frontloaded with a lot of lore, and while council seems to have gotten on fine pretty much ignoring it and doing their own thing, all of IRyS' music is still directly referencing this nephilim lore and her relationship to humanity or whatever. None of it sounds personal to her or like she has any attachment to it, so emotionally it comes across a little stunted. I think she's an amazing singer but I don't think she's released anything as IRyS that really bares her soul.
>>21414667That's very narcissistic of you
>>21414712"story" means a real story, not just their loreIrys is basically a blank slate of a human being, she doesn't really have a story to follow, I think that's a problem for herMaybe she needs more songs about being horny and watching anime
>>21414712>I don't think she's released anything as IRyS that really bares her soul.I think IRyS is just not the type of person that wants to show that to the world.
>>21414721Ad hominem again. You call me a narcissist because you do not want to admit to your shitposting. You say you like Journey but you do not wish to discuss what you like about it.
>>21412307IRyS has childish view on those things. She thinks that if she works hard then it will bear fruits eventually, so she is shy about shilling it>i-it is not that I want you to listen to my songs or anything. Please don't find it, it is not like I care!IRyS, I know you are here. What had more copies sold? Shitty PewDiePie's book, or noblist Abdulrazak Gurnah Afterlives?Quality isn't shit if you have no marketing
>>21414781I'm calling you a narcissist because you're blaming me for you making an incorrect and unfounded judgement
>>21414789In my opinion it's low self-esteem or too much humility.>>21414712Baring your soul looks something like this: https://youtu.be/EpuB_c03dZ0?t=146Can you imagine IRyS doing a similar performance? I can't.
>>21414857You do not want to disprove my supposed misjudge of your character. I am giving you the opportunity to put down your pitchfork and discuss Journey and tell me all of the things you like about it. Why won't you take it?
>>21414905Because I don't give a shit what you think about meyou really think a lot of yourself don't you
>>21414888I think she's capable of it. If she was performing something she felt less detatched from and more personally invested in I think she could get there. I don't know what the answer is or how she genuinely feels about her current output, like if she's frustrated or totally satisfied, but I think she has untapped potential still.
>>21415046You don't give a shit about Journey either, given you are unwilling to discuss it in a positive light. You are just here to stir trouble.
>>21415105Why would I give a shit about Journey? It's not my albumCriticizing it isn't stirring trouble, I said nothing inflammatory
>>21415053I wish she would channel her current frustrations into something creative like that but I accept that not everyone is like that. Whenever I criticize IRyS's songs and singing it's with the thought that she's still really new at this even if most people think she has a lot of experience.
>>21415173It's all one-sided. You say you like it but only offer negative critique. Why won't you praise it?
>>21415207Why should I praise it?
>>21415227Because you said you liked it yet offer nothing of the sort to back up this statement and after all this you have the audacity to accuse me of being a narcissist.
>>21415259I didn't say I liked it, I said it wasn't badYou are a narcissist, you think I care what you think I me
>>21415330So you dislike it?
>>21415409Good. Now instead of shitting up the thread perhaps consider one of the following:>Express the praiseworthy aspects of it you hold true>Fuck off from this thread and don't come back.Either is better than continuing with this nonsense. I don't care which you pick.
>>21415510So I should only say nice things because you'll be upset if I don't? Sound reasonable
>>21414888AZKi is amazing. I really should listen more of her.
>>21415510Don't make demands like that if you're trying to have a conversation. It's rude.
If you guys have complaint about IRyS's song, write a fucking letter to cover on their page instead of fighting here in this thread. All your complaints can be lodged at bad management.
>>21415566Conversations are a two-way street. You can't say you think something is good after shitting on it for ages and refuse to elaborate further.
>>21415643I didn't say it was good, i said it wasn't bad, you absolute moron
>>21415630That's even more of a waste of time than writing it here.
>>21415678Could you please tell me the antonym of "bad"?
>>21415630>management vs opinion
>>21415736there exists a middle ground between good and bad, which is where most of Irys's songs are
>>21415736It could be mediocre.
I’m getting bad vibes from this thread. Not reading it. Luv iwys Luv my wifeSimple as
>>21415630How new, kek.
>>21415827The bad vibes will continue until the Deadbeats fuck off. I'm trying to steer the conversation into a positive discussion about Journey but they're not having it. Can't have good public discourse here, only negative hate.
>>21415922There's no hate
>>21415959There's no love either
>>21415922You have a legitimate mental illness dudeJust because I said Irys's album isn't good, it's negative hate, and I must be a fan of the pink woman
>>21415827basedit'll be dead soon at least
bread baker doko?
>>21415977You just want to see blind love.
>>21416111I want balance. I expect when people say something isn't bad after shitting on said thing to elaborate further. You cannot be surprised if somebody misconstrues your opinion when you refuse to do so. It's already evident that you don't care what others think of you though, your only purpose here is to shit up the thread with unwarranted and one-sided negative critique. You need to tell both sides of the story.
>>21416307You live in this imaginary world where you think other people on an anonymous imageboard care about your feelings
>>21416422So you admit to being a shitter?
>>21416453I posted critique, I didn't post negative critiqueYou can't tell the difference because you're retarded
>>21416307personally I don't like most of her songs. She sings like an angel and music is usually good, but ESL lyrics are destroying everything
>>21416564What about the Japanese ones?
>>21416501Again with the ad hominem? You say something isn't bad but refused to elaborate further. You aren't posting critique but unconstructive criticism.
>>21416612I don't understand them, so they are great
>>21416616I posted plenty of constructive criticismLike, find a composer who has some talent or inspiration, because the one she is working with is mediocre
>>21416686Where are the positive aspects you supposedly hold? You aren't critiquing something, you're writing a scathing review.
>>21416838You don't understand what criticism is, my retarded friend
>>21416857You don't understand how people will confuse you for a shitter when you shit on something. We already know you don't care what others think of you though. We are just going round and round in circles.
>>21416838Read #IRySJourney if you want to see the positive stuff.
>>21416933The moronic way you perceive the world is of no concern to meI have no idea why you need me to compliment the album to make you feel at peace
Well, I wasn't feeling like making a new thread but since this one is shit...Next thread:>>21416963>>21416963>>21416963
>>21417011Don't be a crybaby.
sweet jesus thank you for putting us out of our misery
>>21416966Fair point. Many an anon has loudly proclaimed that others should "go back". Usually, they do not claim that something is "not bad" after preceding to shit on it though.
>>21417069I don't feel like he shit on it.
>>21417069I didn't shit on it you absolute moron, I said it was mediocre
>>21417107>>21417093When you one-sidedly slander something, that is shitting on it. You must offer balance.
>>21417198Lol no. And it wasn't slander.
>>21417221You still refuse to offer any positive discussion whatsoever. You are misrepresenting it.
>>21417198Criticism isn't emotional. It's supposed to be objective. It's not about how you feel. It's not about shitting on you and then telling you some nice words to make you feel better. You aren't supposed to take it personally. This is even more retarded seeing you aren't Irys, and it's not your album
>>21417272The good points of the EP have been discussed to death already.
>>21417365So have the negatives yet you still decided to be a nuisance today.
>>21417408The fact that you consider me dispassionately saying the album was mediocre is "a nuisance" says a lot about you
>>21417455The fact that you refuse to elaborate on the good aspects you claim to hold but offer no proof to the contrary says more about you than me.
>>21417514I never claimed there were "good aspects"And if I did, I have no idea why you require me to say them
>>21417541You said it wasn't bad but still refuse to say how so. You then backtracked from "not bad" to "mediocre". You really are here just to shit up the thread.
>>21417603not bad means mediocreyour problem is you think in black and white, that something must be good or badit's neither good or bad, it's in the middle
>>21417638So say that then.
>>21417650I did, that's what mediocre meansIf English is your second language, look up the words I'm using in the dictionary
>>21417650But he did, over and over.
>>21417650God damn I recognize you, idiot>>21417638Just ignore him, he's mentally ill
>>21417696Yes, he backtracked. He then called me a narcissist for assuming the worst of him when he has still offered no proof to the contrary.
>>21417731Everything I've been said has been consistent, you failed to understand what I'm saying, that's on you, because I'm speaking very clearly
>>21417778You have yet to explain how me assuming the worst of you is wrong when you have offered no proof to the opposite. You only speak in negatives. If I think only in black and white, you think only on black.
>>21417886My impression of the album is that it's mediocre. If I were to praise it I'd be misrepresenting myself. Saying it's mediocre, or even saying it's bad, isn't actually shitting on anyone, it's criticism. You're assuming I want to "cause trouble" by saying this, you have no reason to believe that. I criticize it because I want her to do better.
>>21417989You really should have led with this. You've said your bit, you can go now.
>>21418037I don't owe you an explaination, this isn't your thread, you really are a narcissist
>>21418091It's not your thread either. The likes of you only show up in drones whenever IRyS releases new music.
>>21418037Dude this is not the first time you've done this. Just fuck off already.
>>21418122It won't be the last either.
>>21418117I'm in every thread you stupid fuck, you aren't owed an explaination of my motives just because I said something critical. I'll give you a tip: Antis will start with something that sounds like criticism and then they'll use that to pivot into an insult. Example: Fauna did this on a stream, Fauna is a terrible person and should graduate. That is anti behaviour. I insulted no-one, so you should not assume I'm being an anti
>>21418216You backtrack and pivot when I call you out for refusing to discuss the positive aspects of her music. It's now clear you don't have any. You really do think that little of IRyS's music.
>>21418286I didn't backtrack on anything. I think Irys's music is mediocre. You're saying that like it's some sort of thoughtcrime
>People matching the diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder also use splitting as a central defense mechanism. Most often narcissists do this as an attempt to stabilize their sense of self-positivity in order to preserve their self-esteem, by perceiving themselves as purely upright or admirable and others who do not conform to their will or values as purely wicked or contemptible.this is actually fascinating
>>21418371You backtracked from "not bad" to "mediocre". This discussion is pointless though. We should just end this. Agree to disagree?
>>21418428if something is mediocre, it means it's not bad, and not good. If you can't understand English that's your problem
I don't hate the new song but it's kind of like a poor man's Senbonzakura