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21346743 No.21346743 [Reply] [Original]

Now that the dust has settled.
Did rushia deserve it?

>> No.21346798

>>21346743
she deserved to get fired
but she didn't deserve the backlash that went her way

>> No.21346822

>>21346743
who?

>> No.21346857

The dust will literally never settle.

>> No.21347083

>>21346743
No.
Cover got assmad over a nothingburger 150k live viewer Korekore stream because it would "damage" the image of their garbo corpo.
As if Cover wasn't already caught in a sex scandal or banning Coco to appease the Zhangs

>> No.21347151

>>21346743
Obviously, only the most delusional fancuck gachikoi who are now jerking off to members only menhera Michael Cat streams think otherwise.

>> No.21347452

>>21346743
She absolutely deserved it. Good riddance.

>> No.21347595

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21347851

>>21346743
>Hololive fired rushia
Holy shit
Is yagoo speedrunning backstabbing everyone that made his agency big in the firstplace?
I did the right thing not watching holo after kaichou left.

>> No.21347915

>>21346798
Why didn't she deserve backlash for trying to get her dramatuber friends to attack her coworkers over nonexistant bullying?

>> No.21347954

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21348156

>>21346743
RUSHI CUTE
RUSHI CUTE

>> No.21349058
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>>21346743
>Firing
Doesn't matter, if she broke contract enough to trigger an immediate termination then Cover's hands were tied.
>Termination without Graduation
Yes. She didn't leave on good term.
>Unpersoning
No, not really but I get it. Especially if the rrat is even half true.
>The nerdrage on social medial
Not at all. You're all a bunch of faggots.

>> No.21349192

>>21349058
>Cover's hands were tied
Cover is a dirty company, they have covered up sexual harassment and stalking from managers on idols and "apologized" on the idol's behalf.
Yagoo is a rat

>> No.21349244

Even Orca gave up on her and is sending akasupas to Chloe behind her back now lol

>> No.21349267

>>21346798
If you're going to specialize in girlfriend experiences and parasocial relationships, don't act surprised when the people that give you money think you're cheating on them. Backlash is 100% deserved.

It's like if I catered to a vegan audience and was caught eating meat.

>> No.21349318

Yes

>> No.21349374

>>21346743
>That picture
>Not erasing one of the other guys and leaving Rushia in

>> No.21349377

>>21347083
>banning coco
>sex scandal
Even if this was true I don’t understand what you mean.
What’s the sex scandal?

>> No.21349483

>>21349267
The only shame is that Cover went through it unscathed because they always did and still do endorse that immoral business practice. The problem wasn't even the cheating, that was a given. The problems started with GFE itself. It cannot end well by mere design and all GFE tubers will meet an ungracious downfall.

>> No.21349613

>>21349192
Japanese contract law is very strict. Regardless of whatever other shit is going on/has gone on a company cannot simply fire an employee for making the company look bad.
The employee must break one or more specific clauses in contract les the company be forced to pay reparations upwards to 5 times the employees estimated yearly earnings.
Citation: Company Act of 2005.

>> No.21349706

>>21349483
Wasn't Rushia pretty much the only explicit GFE in holo? I mean other ones do it a bit but that's all she did.

>> No.21349804
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>>21346743
FAQ HER

>> No.21349843

>>21346798
fpbp
Too bad she was retarded and got herself fired instead of just waiting it out

>> No.21349907

>>21349706
She was by far the most aggressive one, but the cow knight and the Orca are dangerously deep into that territory too.

>> No.21350113

>>21346743
Being fired yes, the erasure no.

>> No.21350394

>>21349244
haha, damn. Really?

Took him a while.

>> No.21350588

>>21349244
I don't blame him and I'm glad he managed to break free from her influence. It sure took him a while though.

>> No.21350697

>>21349244
>Orca giving superchat to another Orca
That was fate

>> No.21350777

>>21346743
Antagonism to her coworkers and the company, with intent to harm. Yeah, I think she deserved it. She deserves a competent therapist and properly prescribed medications more though.

>> No.21350801

>>21346743
There was no dust to be settled in to begin with.

>> No.21350862

>>21346798
fucking this. Dramaniggers and normalniggers should do a flip

>> No.21350976

>>21346743
It depends on what Rushia really did behind scenes. Based on what's publicly available, I'd say that Rushia shouldn't have been punished and should've allowed her fans to give her a second chance. But if she was actively putting her colleagues in danger then fuck her.

>> No.21351066

>>21350976
What's publicly available is that she breached her contract. Cover wouldn't lie about that in a public message because that'd open them up to crazy lawsuits from Rushia, so it's pretty clear that Rushia did something that was a clear breach of her contract, and there's really not much defense against that. You sign a contract, you accept the terms. Not reading or understanding your contract isn't an excuse.

>> No.21351475

>>21350976
Cover let Nene get away with selling stolen art and pretending it was her own with nothing but a slap on the wrist. It's safe to say that Rushia fucked up hard.

>> No.21352884

>>21351475
>Cover let Nene get away with selling stolen art and pretending it was her own
When was this?

>> No.21353534

>>21351066
you are right it is as simple as break contract and you can get fired. I think the question arises because we don't know what constitutes the breach. I dont doubt that cover had very little choice in the matter and it was a serious breach but without specifics people especially her fans are going to speculate in both directions. Some are going to say she forwarded video of Sora sucking off Abe to korekore whilst others are going to downplay it and say it was minor breach like telling her mailman she was rushia and cover just wanted rid.
Either way I personally wish they had have found a way to keep her around or at least fire her whilst keeping her memory around and not memoryholing her. That would probably involver her signing over any revenue sharing rights in the character to cover but I think she would have agreed to that

>> No.21353782

>>21352884
last month. She traced some art of a an artist she likes and has done several comissions for cover. It was for her birthday merch and marketed as being by nene. Got found out pretty quickly and she had to apologize. Artist in question didnt make a big fuss but alot of the hololive art community were super pissed

>> No.21353833

She probably deserved to be fired from a corporate standpoint, but not from an entertainment group standpoint. You wouldn't fire Lebron James for leaking something to the media no matter what it is. Cover sees the girls as employees not talent which is a very japanese idol company way of doing things.

She certainly didn't deserve all of the antis or having two years of work just whiped completely from existence. Especially the music. What music company deletes their own back catalog when they part with an artist? It's just stupid.

>> No.21353924

>>21352884
She got caught tracing Yuru Yuri art for her birthday merch and after she got caught they realized some of her older art had been traced from him too. Lucky for her he's a friend of Cover.

>> No.21354094

Like a bad dream you can't wake up from. Just like everything else these days.

>> No.21357550

>>21346743
No.
>muh brand

>> No.21357637

>try to ruin your cowrokers' careers by spreading rumours your dramafag friends that they "bullied" you
>backfires and dramafags let slip that you were leaking info to them instead
Karma bitch

>> No.21363229

>>21346743
who?

>> No.21367260

>>21346743
yes

>> No.21368870

>>21346743
>showed relationship with male on stream
>went menhera on twitter many times
>fed dramatuber juicy company's secrets
>broke NDA
>antagonized coworker
>indirectly hurted Flare
Who could she blame but herself?

>> No.21372766

>>21346743
yes

>> No.21372881

>>21349377
Probably reference to Hitomi Chris or Mel and manager situation, but calling them a sex scandal would be an exaggeration.

>> No.21372933

>>21346798
Someone else overlapping schedule with her=bullying
With that mentality this girl would cause trouble sooner or later anyway

>> No.21373027

>>21346743
Rushia™ deserved whatever Hololive/Cover wanted of her because Rushia™ is literally a corporate asset. If you mean did the va deserve it then legally yes but ethically is up for debate.

>> No.21373242

>>21373027
Rushia is the intellectual property of Hololive. In fact, they should recast Rushia and redebut. Vtubers should be treated like franchises like Ai-chan

>> No.21373313

>>21349907
Sorry, no.
Chloe is not gfe. She just likes money and literally said on her debut that she's in it for the money. If she gives the same experience that Lamy and Noel do then I've been missing the fuck out even as a member.

>> No.21373588

>>21373242
>Rushia has no human rights
I'm not happy with the situation but it is what it is. I bet if they could re-debut her without fan backlash they would.

>> No.21373674

>>21346743
Yes, all she had to do was listen to management and stay away from social media then make a members stream after a week to reassure her fandead. Instead she decided to contact drama YouTubers 2 hours after the discord leak happened, which she had been warned not to do again, and to top things off she suicide baited on both her work and personal account. Leaking to drama YouTubers that you want your coworkers to suffer is the cherry on top, only her most mentally ill fans can defend that type of malicious behavior.

>> No.21373736
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21373736

>>21346743
NO, Yagoo let her off easy.

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>>21346743
/meat/ here. We bring gifts

1. Rushia abuse
Lifting Rushia up and manhandling her tiny body!
Sex with Rushia over the kitchen counter!
Cumming inside Rushia's cunny!
Choking Rushia down and punching her in the tummy!
Sticking a knife into Rushia's crotch!
Cutting around Rushia's waist!
Pulling out Rushia's womb!
Uuuoooohhhhh! Rushia's exposed cunny!
Hearing her screams and getting erected again!
Cumming all over her womb!
Ripping it off and grilling it!
Aaaaaahhhhhh! Rushia's cute and funny uterus!!

2. Traitor torture
Rushia crawling on her fours, blood dripping from her lips. A thud, a scorching pain hit her in the chest. Fubuki lowers her leg. That kick was not hard enough, she thought. A traitor like her deserved worse.
Behind her, Towa peered from behind the toolbox. What will I pick? She asked herself.
The hacksaw? The drill? Whatever the case, she has no regrets.
For once in her life, for once in her time in Hololife, she truly felt bitter. Felt anger beyond compare. Her fans wanted her to become the devil she is, and they will get the wrath of deepest pits of the Underworld.
Towa grabs the handle of a pick tight. This one seems good. Large enough to cave a hole into her skull.
Rushia's death spasms and incoherent gurgling as my sperm floods her braincase
Fubuki and Flare moan like whores and masturbate furiously in the background while squeezing fresh blood from Rushia's organs into their wine glasses
Rushia's body was choped into pieces on the table
Anon is fucking her dismembered cunt
While giving Flare the wettest, most romantic kiss
As she rides Rushia's severed head
Meanwhile Fubuki and Towa are using Rushia's severed arm as a double dildo
Anon tore out Rushia's ballooning womb, the little one unknown of its mother's demise
Anon hands it over to Marine and she sloppily eats the whole thing raw in quick bites
Rushia's body was choped into pieces on the table
Anon is fucking her dismembered cunt
While giving Flare the wettest, most romantic kiss
As she rides Rushia's severed head
Meanwhile Fubuki and Towa are using Rushia's severed arm as a double dildo
Anon tore out Rushia's ballooning womb, the little one unknown of its mother's demise
Anon hands it over to Marine and she sloppily eats the whole thing raw in quick bites
Cuddling Flare on a pile of Rushia's remains!
Conditioning Marine's hair with Rushia blood!
Bathing Watame in Rushia's amniotic fluids!
Pekora goes on stream
Forgot she's wearing Rushia's colon around her neck instead of Don-chan
The viewers were mortified
She calms everyone down saying it's actually a halloween prop
Everyone bought it
Next stream she wears a coat made from Rushia leather

3. Rushia at HoloFes
>Rushia tries to sneak her way into HoloFes
>Gets captured by security
>Thrown backstage in front of the other girls
>They are all disgusted to see the traitor in their presence
>Korone proposed punishing her on stage
>Everyone agrees
>The crowd was cheering wild when the entire cast went on stage
>They reveal Rushia tied up and stripped naked
>The cheers quickly died
>Confusion and fear in the air
>Fubuki reassures everyone this is part of their show, a requiem to the traitor that tried to ruin Cover
>With that she kicks Rushia in the gut with all her might
>The necromancer fell to the floor, gagging and coughing
>Stealth fandeads in the crowd covered their mouths trying to hide the fear
>Noel gave Rushia a roundhouse kick to the head
>Pekora slaps her
>Aqua chokes her and slams her against the stage wall
>Flare was the angriest, lifting Rushia by the throat and rams her head against the steel scaffolding
>Surely, the crowd cheers on
>One by one more and more among the audience enthusiastically demanded more
>Online, the viewers watching the streams were posting clips on /vt/ and twitter
>Everyone is practically cheering
>Even the fandeads
>After Luna pulls out her shoe from Rushia's throat, Fubuki announces that they will ravage Rushia right here
>Towa brings a cart on stage
>Knives, blades, scissors, hedge trimmer, a saw, and plenty more
>Flare did the honors by stabbing Rushia in the torso, ripping her tummy apart
>Her guts start slipping out and sloppily splat over the stage
>The crowd goes wild
>Every Hololive takes a blade
>Even the ID and EN girls who never had any grudges against her
>Like piranhas, they all took a chunk of flesh out of her
>Holes in her arms, chest, her eyeball, nose, tongue
>An hour passed
>All that remains on stage is a cadaver riddled with carved out wounds
>After the event was over, the chunks of Rushia's flesh and organs were up for sale at the food booth
>It sold out immediately
>Legends say that her ovaries and uterus were preserved in formalin and put up for auction on Yahoo JP

>> No.21373907

>>21349244
he still sends 4x to mikeneko

>> No.21373957

>>21349613
anyone with a job knows companies write contracts to basically make it so they can fire you for whatever they want, its just a matter of deciding to press it

>> No.21373976

>>21373242
My sides would be in orbit if they did. I'd especially love to see miguel del gato's meltdown if fans accepted it unquestioningly.

>> No.21374116

>>21373313
He’s a retard going off the assumption that milking your fans means they’re doing gfe. I’m fucking baffled that he included Noel instead of Lamy lol

>> No.21374138

>>21373976
nta but no joke, if Hololive just rehired mikeneko and re-debut Rushia and say canon lore is she resurrected herself their popularity would skyrocket. But they won't because corpos gonna corpo

>> No.21374212

>>21373844
Beyond the average Japanese ESL

>> No.21374230

>>21374116
Noel I've heard things of especially if you consider rm..
Lamy is a given.
Chloe definitely not though.

>> No.21374526

>>21373957
The only other case in the vtuber community like Rushia’s is Yumeno Lilith and in her final stream she broke down crying saying she fucked up big time.

>> No.21374557

>>21346743
No.
She panicked under pressure and made mistakes; literally all we know is she leaked. We don't know what, so we can't say if Cover had to do it.
The idea that "they fired her so it must've been really bad" is bullshit when you consider Fubuki and other reactions who said they miss her and still want her there.
Companies write contracts to do whatever they want.
And as far as leaking, fucking Mel leaked to narukami that a hololive manager was sexually harassing her and got the manager taken down, but she's still there.
So "OMG LEAKS" can't be the real reason.

>> No.21374621

>>21374526
well yes, if you give the company the opening to fuck you, you fucked up in an objective sense, but not a moral or ethical one

>> No.21374702

>>21374138
Why would a company rehire someone who doesn’t hesitate to leak info to drama youtubers?

>> No.21374916

>>21374702
You know Mel did that right? And about sexual harassment from inside Cover, even. And yet she's still there. Go figure.
The real reason is she was smart enough to lawyer up first... Rushia was too naive.

>> No.21374920

>>21374621
Rushia had been warned not to contact korekore or other drama youtubers. She gave him uncensored discord screenshots which the fucker didn’t bother to censor either. Rushia also messaged korekore that she was getting bullied and if anything happened to her to make sure her coworkers suffered. How do you defend that?

>> No.21375178

>>21374526
Holy shit I completely forgot about her. Was there ever any news on what she actually did to get canned like that?

>> No.21375204

>>21374920
People leaking to dramatubers is not unheard of. See >>21374916
Sometimes you have to take measures to deal with incompetent or oppressive management and they are your friend in a way outside the company in the industry.
There is nothing wrong there, the only issue is whatever was shown apparently gave Cover enough excuse to fire her, but we don't know what that is. It could be her betraying all her friends, or it could be some legal stipulation involving sponsorships or even just the name of a manager. It's unlikely it is something like betrayal because the Hololives are still wishing she was there and kson reached out to her and says she wants to collab.
As far as her flipping out to korekore, it was obviously someone venting and having a meltdown over stress, not to mention being suicidal aka not in their right mind (she tried to kill herself right after getting fired), not something that was seriously going to go anywhere. Korekore even said she never gave him anything to follow up on it so obviously she wasn't serious about it if she didn't.

>> No.21375291

>>21374920
tl; dr, she stumbled and panicked under the public onslaught and got fired, that can't be helped, but it doesn't warrant this unpersoning and complete ostracization by the community at large, people need to have empathy and understanding for when someone's getting crushed by mass media and has a poor mental state already. Her fellow chuubas in HL still clearly love her so their fans could take a hint.

>> No.21375383

>>21349244
Oh man you retards really only just regurgitate what you read here huh

>> No.21375798

>>21374916
L FUCKING MAO. You REALLY think a corporate contract outweighs the literal fucking LAWS of the country? Are you twelve? Cover fucked up big time and Mel had all the cards in her hands, if anything they're grateful she allowed them to make it up to her and not shatter the reputation and future of the whole company.

>> No.21375975

>>21375291
>Fellow chuubas in HL still clearly love her
Uhh..maybe ONLY Marine and Peko if you reach far enough.
Watame, the biggest unitychad, gave no fucks at all. Flare sounded pissed at her, Noel was a stone. Fubuki, fucking friend, gives her the cold shoulder. Subaru and Polka treat her as if she didn't exist.
What fellow chuubas again?

>> No.21376817

>>21375975
You're falling for the surface level shit bro.
That was after a bakatare and they were keeping spirits high to stay professional, and everyone else was doing the PR line to avoid more drama.
After the dust settled they felt freer to talk.
Fubuki said after the fes that she wished Rushia was there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADaKChN9sdM

I can tell you haven't been following it since you would've seen the dozen clips of various holomems talking about it as the days went on.

>> No.21376857

>>21375798
No you fucking idiot, it means that even if they were wrong you'd normally get canned anyway for being a whistleblower, which is what Mel did.
What the fuck do you think happens to the people that air the company's dirty laundry?
Anyway you made my point, which is that they can look the other way when they want.

>> No.21377058

>>21376817
Here's another one, more recent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtmEl8Kzr9w

>> No.21378211

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21378236

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21378423

>>21349706
>but that's all she did.
people here really didn't watch Rushia at all

>> No.21379592

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21379996

>>21346798
Dramafags feed on attention and she keeps giving it to them. Hopefully kson can help out Michael Feline and she can thrive as a regular streamer. Mio's fortune telling did say that her luck will gradually get better as the year goes on.

>> No.21380231

>>21346798
Fpbp

>> No.21380290

>>21346743
>bitched about her colleagues
Hell fucking yes she did. If anything, she got off pretty easy.

>> No.21381074

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21381139

Is she still seething that Matsuri hasn't been shitcanned or is she off that?

>> No.21381420

>>21379996
>Mio's fortune telling
That shit was eerie, man...

>> No.21381436

It's an unfortunate situation, really. The Mafumafu rumors not being addressed right away caused what I think was obviously a mental break and made her think it was a good idea to do everything she did afterwards.
I do feel really bad for her and wish she wasn't fired, but I understand why she was. It all could've been avoided if she wasn't legitimately a crazy person. Call me a simp if you want, but I think someone like her needed to be treated with kids gloves.
I do wish Mafumafu took more of the blame however. They were clearly talking behind the scenes and whatever he said ended up making things worse.
Just makes me sad all around.

>> No.21381461

>>21346798
fpbp, she did a lot of dumb shit but she doesn't deserve to literally die over it

>> No.21382576

>>21375204
>they are your friend in a way outside the company in the industry
This is just wrong. Dramafags are the very people you should trust the least.

>> No.21383135

>>21346798
/thread

>> No.21388635

>>21346743
Doesnt matter if she deserve it or not. she still will got much money with new acc from simps who easily throw money. And looking at she is now, for sure she will never learn... My bet she will caught another fire in future...

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21391938

>>21346798
fpbp
actually a non schizo anon

>> No.21393305

>>21346798
FPBP

>> No.21395230

>>21346798
fpbp

>> No.21395290

i dont know

>> No.21396690

>>21395290
what do you know

>> No.21398006

talking about who deserves what, it's not even clear whether Mel's past manager got fired or not.
how am I supposed to just believe Cover at face value?

>> No.21398372

>>21398006
>how am I supposed to just believe Cover at face value?
Why would you?

>> No.21401912

>>21395290
i do

>> No.21404125

>>21347083
Based Twitter clipwatcher.

>> No.21406008

>>21349483
just need to move to ntr experience is all

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