/#/ - Numbers

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>21294282
The last debut was back in 2020 before the en boom so no shit of course they inclined since then.

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wtf is this Ame graph, so spiky

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Guess a little under half the people just gave up on the off-collab. It turned into a boring mario party collab.

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>>21294565
People tab-out then tap-in again because she's kinda annoying I guess ? But number still rise, so not bad.

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Bae just ended but Fauna started streaming kek will Ame ever hit 10k on this one?

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>>21294683
Imagine waiting so long for a comfy girl-collab only to see this. I don't blame the viewers. The only thing that could save this collab is Luxiem/Noctyx calling in. And I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen.

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>>21294683
I sent the picture with Uki to my Finanafag friend and he is furious kek.

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HOMOSTAR GOLD TODAY.

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>>21294803

nah, even if she went longer than the MK collab mumei is going to start another stream later
no funnels for her

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>>21294942
You finally do an off-collab and you don't do some off-collab exclusive shit?
What's the point.

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>>21294565
unironically 9k feels like ame buff game numbers to me these days, between her long breaks and lack of consistent schedules for non-members ON TOP of having some days where she would stream only Oblivion that day at ungodly NA hours which is basically as good as not streaming for most people really caps ones audience ceiling but she has long since guaranteed her core of like 5k basically at this point.

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/#/ is declining.

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>>21295064
If one of the homos wins gold I will send him a max akasupa in Danish Krone when he gets monetized, feel free to screenshot this

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>>21294803
Her last 10k+ stream is her karaoke 2 weeks ago, wish she will stream in a good timeslot and not overlap anyone

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Kronii x irys awsomeness.

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>>21294683
What's with those huge downard spikes?

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>>21293073
ill be generous and say 30k top
If one of their debuts hits 50k I will kneel to Yagoo and the branding he has built.

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>>21295642
Stream crashing due to hotel wifi.

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>>21295290
It's like she's testing her audience to see who really loves her.

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>>21295736
>30k top
I say 20k top, and I'm taking a risk. I'd like the boys to win, but I don't think the box is gonna save them.

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>>21295736
Too high especially considering the overlaps and holostar debuff
10k-15k is probably doable though considering this is their first "gen" in a year and 11 months since MaFia/ex-TriNero debuted

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>>21295736
15k

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>>21295880
They don't really have anything to do with the Holo box though. Their streams are also too early for any NA audience.

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>>21295953
probably, I'm relying on the ads and the fact that it IS the first new HoloJP gen in a long time, so it might attract tourist interest. But you're right that 15k is probably more likely.

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>>21295880
>box
Not even reddit cares about them. Their pinned thread on reddit only has 100 comments. Meanwhile Kobo's debut thread has 700 comments.

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>>21296047(me)
make that holostarsJP obviously

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Too many doubting Yagoo and his branding power. I pray that the non-believers realize the errors of their ways.

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>>21295634
En souls.

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>>21296138

yagoo will never have successful male chuubas, anon. holostars is a cursed brand

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>>21296047
I saw someone mention that Roberu said it's spring break in Japan and they're advertising the Homos in Shibuya.

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>>21295736
30k top is already kneeling for weeks territory. No way it will happen.

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>>21296202
The power of Yagoo shall never lead you astray, my son

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>>21295634
Funny enough niji en used to have this kind of dynamic and then the males came and started collabing with them every day.

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Faufau 10k got
1 POV really helps huh?

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35k, still will not get gold.

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Ridonkulous...

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>>21296340
The girls are now just glorified accessories for the males in NippleEN.

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>>21296451
Pretty good ID nu-oh yeah, they're supposed to be JP.

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>>21296451

homunculus bros.. what went wrong..

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>>21295634
Kronii and IRyS is your bro tuber experience. Just constantly taking shots at each other and bantering.

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>>21296138
Anon, look at the subscriber numbers of Uproar and realize that they haven't moved more than 3k subs in the week since Holofes.

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>>21296451
jesus christ man what a tragedy

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Fauna 12k

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>>21296202
Most of their designs are shit. How are they the idol group but look like garbage compared to Niji dudes. Uproar looks even worse.

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>>21295736
>30k
That is kneels giving way territory. Holoexpo had 21k for the boys segments, which is already max tourist buff. I’d be amazed to see them break 25k but logically, 21k is their current ceiling

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Who would have guessed that the English V-Singer who had barely fuck all experience in streaming would be one of the best with collabs in HoloEN.

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>>21296537
Bro, nearly 0 hype for debuts. I saw more hype for NeoPorte. That doesn't necessarily translate to numbers but still.

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Something to keep in mind is that Uproar debut timeslot is 3 hours before ID3's. Like I watched all the ID3 debuts because it was 8 AM for me, but fuck that I'm not waking up at 5 AM to watch the new Holostars though I'd at least check them out if it was 8 AM.

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>>21296752
Even l*ddit pretty much forgot about the guys.

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>>21296752

>nearly 0 hype for debuts
>130k+ likes on the twitter announcement
>1M views on the PV on the niji main channel in a few days

riiight

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>>21296451

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>>21296628
what the fuck sana is in this? and she streamed 5 times this month?

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>>21296949
Sana basically goes invisible in collabs, but yeah she's been streaming. She has back problems so she can't stream long though

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>>21296095
Kobo's really cute but her voice is kinda offputting. Gura sounds like a 2D animated loli and not a shitty dub one like most EN-speaking vtubers but Kobo's almost like that but it feels abit too "real"? I dunno.

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>>21295844
The Kronii strategy.

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>>21296575
These 2 are so good i forgot they playing mari kart. They need to replace mori in chad cast.

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>>21296903
Meme engagement numbers from ads

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>>21296451
Just need to get interesting teams in Vtuber Cup or CR Cup for da boost

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>>21296903

it's easy to say that there was no hype for them now but tbf when they were announced no one expected it to be THIS bad

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>>21296949
All in the past week I think.
She's only doing an hour at a time though.

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>>21296746
Wish that will reflect to her numbers because she rarely stream her collab POV

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>>21296451
Aqua... King... pls let Apex die so vtubers can play other games.

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>>21294942
That won't happen

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Roomate Gold?

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>>21296949
You're going to have to get over it, anon. We go through this timeloop daily.

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>>21296138
>>21296202
The butthole is tasteful today?

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>Playing Apex when VSPO girls dominate on it
Why the girls in nijisanji all fall into it? Why can't they try to be like Lize, heck even that screwed up girl that got into fight vs Roa was looking hot streaming castlevania and others normal games, but not it's just apex apex apex.

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>>21297247

Riku's? not really

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>>21296095
Why would you compare the comments on a debut that happened vs one that didn't? There isn't anything to talk about yet.

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>>21296340
and most people who watch niji en don't care

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Fauna 13k get

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>>21297247
female with a shit fetish, or a faggot?

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>>21296949
Btw does Sana ever talk about her manager? not Omega since he's the manger for the whole Council iirc, Wish her manager will make/do something to boost her miserable numbers considering she HoloEN

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>>21296095
Have you considered that Kobo has 700 comments because it's a debut reaction thread?

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>>21297282
If you actually looked into it, you would see the two involved in this collab streamed more than 5 different games outside of apex.

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>>21297374
I'm sure they're worried about what some autists in this thread think.

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>>21297373
>>21297311
Yagoo's butthole. Or dick if you want. So much sucking that your mouth must be hurting.

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>>21296451
I told you debuting during holofes was a mistake, but did they listen to me? No, it's all counter programming this and hololive and nijisanji audiences are separate that. Well who's laughing now?

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>>21297498
They were always gonna fail.

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>>21296900
Literally in what universe has reddit given a shit about nijisanji? Apart from their paid shills

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>>21297498
I don't think being in holofes or not would change anything. I always expected Lain numbers and it's pretty much what we're getting.

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>>21297488
Ah, you're a faggot then, that explains your obsession with male buttholes
Here you go, this thread is for you >>21293012

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>>21297210
I'm surprised Mori's stream only has 20k, didn't the first ep of the Myth TTRPG get higher?
>>21297587
I misread your comment like a dumbass and thought you were talking about Uproar.

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>>21297587
Hello DiamondTiaraIsBest

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>>21297623
But Lain numbers in less than a week?

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>>21296451
4k min prediction bros where you at...

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>>21297718
I think it's more than one week anon. They lost their buff faster like Noctyx it seems.

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Fauna's median this month is actually impressive. She is seeing some growth after streaming regularly with most streams over 7k.

She is creeping up to be at Hololive's solid mid-tier.

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What the hell is happening with Nijisanji?
They're in a constant state of decline and the best indicator for that is with how well their new members perform.
In contrast, HoloID is performing extremely well. Not only are they consolidating all the vtuber ID audience, they're not up to par with NijiEN branch.

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>>21297771
I think the academy thing hurt more than helped. They don't get the buff from being an unknown since there's archives of their stuff on other channels.

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>4 holos can't reach goomba's solo MK peak
is Gura the only EN that can bump a stream to 20k any more?

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>>21296746
She did streaming rep on rm acc a few months before debut as Holo. Also she's can banter with literally anybody in Hololive. I was really surprised how she talked casually with JPs in their first Among us collab like they been knowing each other for years.

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>>21297718

I watched some of their streams and the numbers makes absolute sense. They are like, really bad streamers. It's scuffed not in a good way

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The Holostars will all hit a minimum 40k on their debuts.

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>>21297857
The NA trio in Council is pretty solid when they are not debuffing themselves, just like the NA trio of Myth with Ame from last year, but I feel like Ame can still bounce back.

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>>21297718
Market is really saturated at the moment. Unless you do something amazing right out the gate you're going to have problems. Hololive was right to push for having a heavy priority for in-company collabs and not shoveling out new vtubers. The box is strong.

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>>21297995
Weren't they trained? Who even pays for their training?

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>>21298009
delusional

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>>21296636
>Shit design
Fuma has Shounen anime design

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>>21298009
Anon not even all the IDs hit 40k. It ain't happening

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>>21297987
>like they been knowing each other for years
The great circle of NND is a thing, you know

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Riku cancelling the whole ID branch was a mistake. They could've been inclining right now if they they piggybacked on HoloID's recent performance.

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>>21297937
goomba has her reputation in MK helps I think, I don't remember her ccv is that solid before she incline to become one of the strongest MK players in holos

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>>21297995
Is that why they added that they're looking for experienced streamers in their new VTA audition page? The entire premise of the academy was to train someone from the ground up, including singing and dancing.

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>>21298009
Yea yea, and then you'll link this later in another thread, showing how "# is delusional, 'insert other bait here'".
Fuck off, falseflagger.

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>>21296636
The fuck? Uproar looks amazing. They look like they're right out of a persona game

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>>21298142
Millie unironically pumping up ID numbers by not streaming her POV.

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>>21298009
No anon, ID3 each had 100k prior to debut. Uproar has like 20k subs. Divide the ID3 debuts by 5 for a decent range for Uproar.

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>>21297937
>is Gura the only EN that can bump a stream to 20k any more?
In HoloEN, more people in a collab means worse numbers.

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>>21298041
They pay for the "training". How is Anykara supposed to make money?

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>>21298156
Then just add them to Nijisanji proper? Why do they have to go through VTA for some cheap PNG?

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>>21297925
Could be the case. Word of mouth exist after all and could be a thing with personality and other things. If they remain in the 2k-1k range they still will be doing well but we'll need to wait and see for the other VTA debuting again to see how they'll do. In theory they can debut more 6 this year

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>>21297407
The ID debut announcement post has about 700 comments even if it's only pinned for a short time. Face it, nobody cares about males.

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Breaking news: IRyS do shrooms!

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Animare is doing extremely well recently.
Did Holofes made the whole vtubing scene incline?

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>>21298365
You have a source? I was pretty certain that Anycolor paid for the training.

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>>21297374
She talked about it back when she was playing shitty games and getting worried that they might ask her to knock it off but they just said do whatever you want

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Is it just me or were there this many artists liking vtubers that worked on animes and LN illustration as compared to like 2 years ago?

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>>21298487
Anykara doesn't pay shit.

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>>21298142
It literally makes no difference when the vtubers still will exist. And you are delusional if you think HoloID would make them get bigger. Hololive is its own system.
>>21298365
No one paid for anything, everything is paid by Anykara. The costs are minimal and they use the equipment from HQ. I doubt it's expensive.

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>>21296995
>back problems
Potentially career-ending back injury and/or risk of permanent disability does not constitute 'problem'.

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Towa sama sharp incline due to collabs but prolly keep some #

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>>21298466
>doing well
>1k
fuck off falseflagger. It's obvious you are the retard who falseflag vspo and who disappeared yesterday when hoshikawa was beating Noah, Sumire and other vspo.

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>>21298203
that's just your bias because you love persona game anon

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>>21298466
Is that Tirol? I thought she left?

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>>21298537
They do. At least research before speaking retard. VTA is a free project, you just need to audition and be picked to be part of VTA.

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>>21296998
Easiest explanation why you feel that way is that she's an Indog speaking in mostly Indonesian, and you're a racist chumkek.
But don't worry, it's okay to be racist in 4chan.

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>>21298729
Isn't this gen specifically being aimed towards women? Then again, fuck if I know what Japanese girls like.

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>>21296636
Their designs are amazing what the fuck are you talking about? If they fail its not going to be because of their design

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>>21298635
>Hololive is its own system.
That's obviously not true. You would know that when you see how non-Holos put Hololive talents on a pedestal when they joined Hal's Apex tournament. Fact is Niji members would love to collab with Hololive if it only it would not anger their chink fanbase.

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>>21298365
Not only that, they could sack anyone in VTA without dealing with repercussions like harming their main Nijisanji brand.

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>>21296998
>kinda offputting
Why are you nijiniggers so salty just because you lost your ID branch?

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>>21296998
I think this is called cute aggression, and you might actually be a woman

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>>21298852
>>21299183

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>>21299183
???
Sounds more like someone who's not Indo commenting on how the language sounds.
Face it, the language often can sound harsh and unpleasant to the ears if you're not Indonesian. To be fair, this isn't unique to Indonesian, some languages just don't sound pleasing to the ears if you don't understand them.

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>>21297937
Channel is a (de)buff. It'd be high if it was on Kronii's channel, but that goes against the point of the box.

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>>21298983
>That's obviously not true
Except it is. While obviously there's some DDs who watch both, Nijisanji and Hololive's viewership are by and large disconnected with each other.

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>>21299349
bahasa is called the japanese of SEA, it's already the most pleasant hearing language among those countries.

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>>21296451
It's not surprising. Just look at Nijisanji's record. They haven't developed anyone and made them into a star. Their current face of the group is still the same people that debuted 3 years ago.
VTA which was supposed to train people completely gave up their mission. They're now hiring streamers with experience. They're fucked.

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>>21299445
is it just me or does JP not suffer from this channel debuff problem to anywhere near this level? Do EN viewers unironically rely on their subscription box to tell them about streams?

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>>21299445
>Channel is a (de)buff. It'd be high if it was on Kronii's channel, but that goes against the point of the box.
Nah, it's just that the HoloEN audience doesn't like to watch large collabs.

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I just saw that Kronii also has
"???" for the 31th.
So unless she also appears on Suisei's concert the way Gura and Ina did on Aqua and Marine's pretty kills the rrat of Mori appearing on Suisei's concert, right?

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>>21299603
They do. See Chocosubaluna collabs when it's on Choco's or Luna's channels instead of Subaru's

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>>21299598
This is true. There is literally no Hololive gen without some major star. Even ID2 has Ollie.

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>>21299563
I'm Indonesian but this is literally the first time I've heard of that.

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>>21297937
debuff channel anon considering its a 4 chuubas collab with not much overlaps.

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>>21299817
Who's the star in Council?

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>>21299936
kronii and/or mumei

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>>21299936
Mumei is shaping up to be the star since Kronii dropped the ball hard.

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>>21299547
only EN. Because current Niji EN is just too disgusting and off-putting they might as well share viewership with vwhores now. Niji JP and Holo JP especially the the female Nijis has identical audiences.

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>>21299936
mooms or kronii

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>>21299936
Mumei since Kronii hates numberfagging.

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>>21299936
Kroniichiwah

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>>21299936
Towa

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>>21298983
Anon please. Holo ID and Niji ID have been doing collabs for years and nothing changed for Niji ID. I'm not going to compare JP because the branch is much larger and successful but you have an idea.

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>>21300129

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The AV industry is really a behemoth. Not only they made people think they're on the "good" side of morality using that NippleGate scandal, they also made use of that opportunity for free advertising.

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>>21299563
And where the fuck did you get this information? The voices in your head?

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>>21299684
>>21299684
>>21299684
The absolute state of Nijien

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>>21298983
Except collabs between them still happen, "chink fanbase" here is irrelevant.
Maybe they just... don't want to collab?

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>>21299936
irys

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Speaking of numbers, hlg threads get more replies than entire /vt/ combined. How does that make you feel?

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>>21299685
Anon you narrative is retarded, Mori already said she will appear in 3D again somewhere before the month ends, and it's not like a Holo can't have the same schedule sometimes

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>>21300208
There was also a Rushia JAV that came out like a few days after her yab.

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>>21300208
KEK

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>>21299563
I'd rather hear Cebuano.

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>>21299598
They aren't fucked. We have this conversation today already.
>>21300021
You have no idea what you're talking about. If Niji JP and HOlo JP had the same audiences they wouldn't have tribalism much bigger than in here to the point of graduations happening due to it.
As for NijiEN, the girls literally by a longshot have a lot of Holofags as fans. While the boys don't have much in comparison.

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>>21300365
There is a raid going on if you didn't notice.

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>>21300021
>only EN.
>Niji JP and Holo JP especially the the female Nijis has identical audiences.
lmao

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>>21300208
Holy kek!! The Nipplegate is the yab that keeps on giving. Who would have imagined that a man and his nipples would beat out Rushia for yab of the year. The laughs just don't stop.

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>>21300294
Shu looks hot in it

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>>21300330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX9kuXL0ZhM

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>>21300294
Sweet jesas. This is honestly what the nijiEN (pre fags) deserve. Suck that chemistry, faggots. Choke on it.

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>>21300208
The power of yakuza(?)

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>>21300021
No it isn't. Not even in NijiJP and HoloJP. Their numbers barely budge when they overlap, and they don't even funnel viewers to each other. What the fuck do you think that anon meant when he said 'Hololive is its own system'?

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>>21298983
Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwMqwdHN-88 ?

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>>21300365
??? Are you talking about /hlgg/ or is the old man from /jp/ having a fit again?

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>>21300691
I wonder what the fans of NijiEN girls are feeling now

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>>21300743

lmao

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>>21300835
/hlg/, it's getting raided by schizos copy pasting shit from /hlgg/ and mods stopped caring

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>>21300526
that's mostly by vtuber antis falseflagging themselves as nijifans. Of course there are deranged nijiniggers just like there's deranged holofags but I think there's an overlap between femNiji and Holo audience. Though people who watch female nijis (like Hima) are most likely prioritize holos now

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>>21300886
Either actively trying to fight back with splits, fucked off, or coping hard about how only holobronies could possibly ever hate the current state of affairs (the main thread ones)

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>>21300743
KEK

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>>21300886
Most NijiEN fans are fine with it. The ones who don't likely aren't even watching them anymore.

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>>21300743
I love those three so much

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It's really bad that Nijisanji doesn't value their female talents.
How could you say their new members are successful when Vspo girls outright mog them streaming debuff content.

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>>21300743
lmao

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>>21300743
Everyone fears the niji killer

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>>21300208
I think Niji management failed spectacularly in handling this mess. Not punishing Lauren opened themselves up for further criticism.

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>>21301226
Most NijiEN fans nowadays are girls so of course, they wouldn't complain. The male fans mostly went back to Hololive after shunning them for being "not having enough creative freedom"

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>>21300743
Nijis in shambles

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>>21300743
holo unicorns btfo

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>>21300208
they fuck for money. did you think taking advantage of yab would be below them?

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These 4 HoloEN should just make their own podcast as well. They are entertaining.

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>>21301541
It's really ticky though. How can you punish him when he pirated that nipple porn before he became Lauren.

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>>21300373
Besides her confirmed 3D birthday?
But the time on Kronii's schedule is too early for her usual slot.

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>>21301822
Irys doing double duty? Nah, too much for her voice. I think replacing her with Ina might be good since we will have Sana-Ia banter while Kronii and Fauna can do their whole thing.

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>>21301911
It's all about perception, anon. Nobody bought their lame excuse. If they gonna stunt Lauren's growth, at least they make themselves appear righteous like what the porn companies have been doing.

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>>21301822
Someday, Hololive will have their own Joe Rogan joining the mix, and it will be glorious.

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>>21301822
>kronii on a fucking podcast

no thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21301418
when are you going to respond me about this btw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302135
Lauren could have been Nijisanji's ticket to mainstream. Just advertise him as Nijisanji's resident nipple fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302189
Anon, surely you realize that Hoshikawa is one of the most subscribed Niji female, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21301600
Most of the fans are girls, yes. But the male and female fans who are fans of the female girls still are in there. I still see tons of holobronies watching nijien looking at discords, reddit, youtube and twitter as a ton of them dont know much about nijisanji, meanwhile the pre-en nijifags who watch the other branches still do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21301822
I just realize that HoloEN offers more bro streamer experience than NijiEN males.
This is just sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21295460
Hey man

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302189
Bro, chill. Stop malding over some harmless opinion on the internet lmao

[Anonymous No.]

numbers predictions for whatever the fuck mumei is about to do

[Anonymous No.]

Is Mumei actually going to get funneled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302349
Sure, it's believable just like when Rosemi said that NIjiEN 3Ds are done on her member stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302339
Of course, but according to that same anon, vspo mog niji females all the time when he always cherrypick everything. ;) besides, subs aren't a good showing when Hoshikawa these days is more popular than Matsuri while having 500k less subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302248
I agree. That nipple moniker ain't going away. Might as well bank on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302351
Yeah, this is what I get as well. They seem chill nowadays compared to debut. This results in some interesting topics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302523
Japanese comedians love weird shit, just give him some time on a JP tv show and Anykara will get gold all day every day.

[Anonymous No.]

Polka 20k

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302454
If you actually interact with nijien community or even go to r/hololive in their subreddit you'll see it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/tkafg0/haha_jk_unless/

[Anonymous No.]

>afternoon jst
>20k+
jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302349
>tons of holobronies watching nijien
>source: the voice in my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302407
15k-17k if its interesting

[Anonymous No.]

Easy 20k for Polka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302531
If Polka and Flare don't re-buy then their gacha stream might end around the same time Mumei starts. If the MK collab ends as well then Mumei could have quite the potential audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302655
see >>21302617
search for nijien in their sub and you'll see that a lot of them that mostly watch hololive, also watch nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302617
Yeah, go to a sub that is already infiltrated by Niji stealth marketers. Good job though, I admit.

[Anonymous No.]

Does this reflect the current hierarchy for the vtubing world?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302826
Why did you remove HloEN from your tracker?

[Anonymous No.]

The duo gacha streams are easy fucking numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302473
But they do, they mog pretty much allof nijifemalses outside of the rare dozen or so who can regularly hit 5k+

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302826
Man you don't get tired do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302903
I don't want to scare nonHolo fans too much. I'm trying to be impartial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302826
KEEP GROWING BENISEX I NEED MORE LEWDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302764
And where are they when NijiEN girls stream? Where is this 'tons of holobronies' when Millie, Enna, and Reimu can't break 2k, even when there's no overlap with HoloEN?

[Anonymous No.]

This is almost definitely gonna be a 10k+ stream from Mumei but I wonder how high it’s gonna hit.

She’s getting Gura waiting room-like numbers right now. 5.3k waiting with 7 mins to go and no sign yet as to what it’ll really be

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302826
The numbers we have for Feb actually support it. I'm curious what would change in March.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302940
They don't. First of all, there's two vspo who barely reach 1k and two of them that are on the 2k front. Just with those, they already would be behind a ton of nijigirls and even nijien girls like Pomu, Selen and Elira.
The ones who do the best are Sumire, Noah, Nose and Hinano and those still are behind many niji girls.
If anyone has it, please post the median from vspo and then we can compare with the median of the niji girls in jp to see it.
>>21303066
It obviously doesn't mean literally every holoen watch nijien but a good part of them do it. If it was just actual nijisanji fans in the west, their numbers for all the girls would be a lot smaller.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I'm crazy if I think Mumei is the second biggest holoen rn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303066
A lot of the NijiEN girls' fans watch HoloEN, doesn't mean all of HoloEN fans are watching NijiEN. It's a small circle with a big overlap on a larger circle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
She only has like 600k subs though, how could that be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303134
It doesn't support and it doesn't make any sense with how the lowest girls and boys bring down the median. You need to look at those things individually, not from the entire agencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
Ina is far more consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
??? pink woman is the second biggest

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
Yes, you're crazy. Now take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

Niji solo stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303134
>using the numbers anons /here/ already said didn't work back when it was first posted
You VSPOfags are starting to act like Nijiniggers. You sure you wanna go down that way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303332
I don't get you. Their top talents also bring up their median just like how their bottom-feeders lower it. That's because we are measuring the strength of the group with respect to individual performances.
If you want, you can always make statistics of your own showing whatever you want to convey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
No, but she is getting good engagement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21296451
>females in manjisanji
what were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.]

Niji's soccer collab thing is back
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1508670326829428739

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303332
Looking at it by the entire agency just shows how Niji has an ocean of suffering talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303134
is this the fabled quality over quantity debate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
She’s not, and that’s a good thing because if you’re under the idea she’s that good and yet there’s others ahead of her, that means something is going right with the rest of HoloEN.

The reality is that Mumei’s been on an incredible incline in recent time but she’s still trying to form her own audience, and that audience is not big enough just yet in both ccv and vod views. It’s GETTING THERE but it’s clear that there needs some more before she gets to someone like Mori’s level. Mori’s vods at 11k ccv are like 22k ccv JP vod streams, she’s fucking massive when she picks the right stream. Mumei is too, but there’s too many times where she plays a game and is under 7k doing so. Just needs to find her footing and she’ll be great

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303722
Someone is misisng

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303367
>>21303349
>>21303331

I know, but I feel like she's the only one who can get big numbers on regular solo streams just by doing whatever she does in random guerrilla streams (Gura too ofc)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303722
Who replaced Lauren?
I'm happy for Naruse. Dude was so hyped up for this collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303722

They will erase Lauren, holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303722
Nipplesanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303722
nippleboy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303665
The Niji males are bored of the old accessories and demanded Riku to bring in new ones for them to pump and dump

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303821

>Who replaced Lauren?

Akina

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
She is the second most popular council member, people just need to open their eyes and see that Kronii is shit

[Anonymous No.]

let the Mumei Chama arc begins ikz

[Anonymous No.]

People talk about it a lot but how detrimental is Kobo's focus on ID actually going to be? Is she going to end up with 3view numbers over time because of it? Is Zeta going to have to carry ID3 on her back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303722
>2022年2月18日(金)に開幕した2022
nippleman...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303626
It's not vspofags. Those don't care about numbers that much. It's obvious who they are
>>21303628
The point anon, is that comparing individuals make more sense than comparing an organization with 110 talents with another with less than 20.
>>21303821
It literally says in there, Akina
>>21303839
He's still in hiatus. The collab is on 2 days and was delayed because of his problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>rescheduled sponsorships being announced
>nippleman coming back next week

seems like Niji is back on the upswing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303283
Thats not Mori anon

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304318
source for lauren's comeback ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304150
Wait a couple months, observe the numbers, and then make your own conclusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304234
>comparing an organization with 110 talents with another with less than 20
Anon, the purpose why we study statistics is so that we can use tools that would normalize our datasets such that we can compare these data that we cannot normally do directly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21303839
graduation when?
he's pretty much screwed he's not gonna get any sponsorship ever again

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei has truly inherited Haachama's retarded clickbait streams people tune into out of sheer morbid curiosity

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei wants war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304918
It feels like all out war lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304318
My nipples are already tingling in anticipation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21302826
No it's just a snapshot from some random off hours streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304825
>looks at Haachama now
Well I hope she doesn't do it until it overstays its welcome like Haachama did and make people get fed up and decide to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

thanks i guess mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305166
Nah, what made people fed up was Haachama not streaming for like 3-4 months other than a couple every now and then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305428
>shows up
>mogs Irys' karaoke and her genmates 4 person collab
>leaves
S-sasuga

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305564
not quite but it's kinda ridiculous that she got this close with a 20 min shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305428
This is how to make a story arc
I just hope that this won't overstay the welcome

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305054
just like a holobitch waiting to get fucked by the big nijicock

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtube.com/channel/UC94Mhi_4KZNX7bzHaoBnRTw
Oh hey the original holos songs guy is back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305564
She would've if she kept going for a little bit more, but the collab's peak is still higher.

[Anonymous No.]

How big of a boost has master duel been to ccv of larger vtubers?
An indie I watch drops from 300 to 30 when playing apex instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304918
Oh she got war alright.
Chammers needs new ingredient for her cooking and she heard owl meat is pretty tasty

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305166
It's already been said but I'm gonna dogpile because this dumb rrat needs to die. Her schizo arc isn't what caused her decline, what hurt her was not balancing her shitposts with regular streaming. Doing gimmicks like this is fine, beneficial even as long as you keep your regular activites steady

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305705
After the holofes arc, we now present to you the college girls war arc

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305780
it was being a huge boost to rosemi if i recall corrrectly to the point she was rivalling higher ccv girls of her nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305749
Oh nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305749
That's cool but it's Monday. He usually puts up his stuff on Sunday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305546
No, it happened as far back as that retarded schizo arc she did. Their absence just didn't get noticed because back then a couple thousands leaving was barely a dent on her CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305919
This and another factor was the change of slot, schedule, frequency and general tone of her streams after returning to Japan.

She had to reinvent herself because she was no longer living alone in an Australian basement with no family or friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306141
She had a hiatus way before the schizo arc, when she moved back to Japan. Remember how amazed people were when she pretty much materialized in Japan for that Live (Bloom?) supposedly with no practice and after a hiatus?

[Anonymous No.]

Stars GOLD IKZ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21304150
Expect shit donation numbers
That's almost guaranteed
She's entertaining on her own without the coomerbaiting
she's gonna dip into 3views on any non-translated narrative heavy games.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone saw Pomu's YouTube comments about the off-collab? did the nijifags seethe about the thumbnail clickbait?

[Anonymous No.]

How can one get Luxiem streamlab donation
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306591
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306591

oh boy..

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306576
Yeah, ID3 is going get shit number because Covee is too stupid to think about business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306717
roru
rumao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306716
Don't worry, the legions of former Hololive fans will jump in to defend Pomu's action.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306576
I swear /#/ has lost their goddamn minds and huffing some sort of retarded copium where Yagoo can magically squeeze numbers out of the dry rock that is indonesia. I remember folks being convinced ID2 was gonna be the bee's knees too but at least they were mostly english streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306731
Seething 2view is seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306890
I find your lack of faith... Disturbing

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu's and Finana's offcolab got good numbers(for them) so it was objectively successful. I don't condone the existence of males but the proof is in the pudding. NijiEN females' viewership has gone up because of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306890
>Yagoo can magically squeeze numbers out of the dry rock that is indonesia.
But he did though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21305780
Konami perms on Hololive when

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306717
>>21306716
those fags are so obviously from here. no wonder all of the replies were telling them to go back to 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306716
is generation/wave cohesion even a thing with nijiJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307031
i haven't been caught after i robbed that bank, but i objectively have more money now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307097
this isn't niji jp, it's nijien. But yes, it is a thing. Some are close with each other like Edengumi, Blues, Sanbaka and others not as much or not at all. It depends on who we are talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307121
The majority of the comments were positive anon. Only like 5 were criticism between more than 40.

[Anonymous No.]

Qrd on the Pomu situation? Did people not like the scuff in the stream or did they not expect others to join in like Uki instead of just finana and Pomu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307070
Yes anon only 4chan can be mad that a 2 girl collab that was advertised as a two girl collab suddenly became a 2 girl one dude collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307097
Uh yeah, of course it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307121
Dumb comparison since we have 3 months of data saying that NijiEN females aren't harmed at all by males and have done better than usual. The audience for NijiEN is just different and don't really share your sensibilities. Sure they can't even beat Sana but at least she isn't tripling their viewership like before.

I don't like NijiEN, and I despise their fans, but I can't say the males have harmed anything at all with all the data we have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307243
Yeah because pomu deleted all the ones that weren't 100% licking her feet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306716
It's their fault for watching Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306716
Should've watched hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307320
Hope someone breakdown how many streams peak ccv is relying on enable VC or collabs, it will paint a clearer picture of their real solo power level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307263
The stream thumbnail and the tweets all said it was a Pomu and Finana offcollab and then when the stream started SURPRISE, it was actually a Uki Pomu Finana offcollab. Of course there are going to be people pissed about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307263
Both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307320
They've helped with viewership during collabs but hurt with superchat (likely lost some paypigs)

[Anonymous No.]

What is this guy's drama? Is he leaving Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307243
the comment section is sooooo positive to the point where Pomu has to turn them off because she can't handle all the positivity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307263
>PUFFERFEESH in the video title
>only the two in the thumbnail
>twitter posts of the two hanging out and doing things with no mention of Uke or whats his name
people had certain expectations that got broken it seems

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307496
Not sure how that matters if the formula is getting them better viewership.

>>21307543
I could believe that if I saw the data to back it up. I don't want to bother collecting it myself though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307031
Anon, I genuinely believe a Pomu-Finana off collab advertised as such could easily get 10k even before Luxiem.
She got for this much anticipated collab about the same number Petra got with her MarioParty collab with JP last year.

>>21307070
Here is the original title and thumb for the stream. The frustration is justified and doesn’t even have anything to do with Uki being a guy, it’s the fact fans that were waiting for this since before the newest waves debuted didn’t get anything remotely of what this thumb implies.

Imagine if, during that first PekoMoona much anticipated “official” collab, all of a sudden Moona had invited (let’s say) Iofi to be a part of it, or Pekora had invited Towa and it became a three person collab.
Fans would obviously be miffed and not because they hate Iofi or Towa.

Now it will be interesting to see if this will drive the original NijiEN audience out for good or if they’ll roll with the punches and stick for more beatings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307499
>Luca intruding on mengen
>now Uki was in PomuFeesh collab
They should be shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307070
The question is: so what? Viewers are viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307571
>>21307372
Has it ever occured to you guys Pomu is just mentally ill and can't handle it? Aqua is beloved by thousands yet her shit is ruined by someone saying something bad about her. vtubers aren't paragons of turning the other cheek most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307562
KR is shutting down anon, I assume it also means they're going to stop paying for the kr Minecraft server too so that going bye bye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307668
>Now it will be interesting to see if this will drive the original NijiEN audience out for good or if they’ll roll with the punches and stick for more beatings.
We all already know the answer to this, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307668
Pomu doing bait and switch again?
Didn't she announce before she was dying and so has to graduate only to turn around and join Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

nijicucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307741
It's not really beatings when most don't see it as beatings to begin with. Why does this thread just have such a hard time accepting that people have different sensibilities sometimes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307730
Ah yeah right. ID and KR will be merging with JP this April right? Good for them I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307718
Yes it has and I immediately discarded it because it sounds like what a coping nijinigger would come up with, and lo and behold, here it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21306890
At least they are still doing better than NijiID

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307372
Pomu is 100% menhera who can't deal with criticism at all. Did you miss when last year she responded to a maro on twitter who was shitting on her by saying she was going to graduate in a joke way?
She planned everything and with minimal criticism in her channel, everything turned down to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307762
Do you mean Pomudachis or fujos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307762
>Paracucked by pomu and feesh
yeesh

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307824
NijiID considers it a good day if they can scrouge up 200 viewers, that's not a high bar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307854
It's like an all out war now...in bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307656
It means are they really lifting their core/floor viewership, or just borrow from others to inflate themselves. It matters for the long run (and yes, context behind numbers matter).

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307730
>>21307808
Retards, Shin is graduating on 2 days along Lee On, that's why kek

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if Finana will user her alternate twitter account to retweet any of the porn of her and Pomu getting dicked down by Uki that will come out of this collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307749
Don't forget about those public crocodile tears to bait SC and membership!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307808
>branch merger
>"Good for them"
They're basically sentenced to slow and painful death anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307854
Both

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307762
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307789
I have the same sentiment, while Pomu might have had some idolfag/purityfags early on, those types were either long gone or just adapted by the time this collab happened. And even that audience was likely an unoticeable minority to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307762
Awww look at these cute hearts between them

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307854
fujos are the ultimate cucks. They don't even care if their oshis fuck 10 whores before during and after their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307854
Fujos will just call you holobronies no matter how you complain about someone invading your oshi's stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307941
Well, you have a point. I would rather not go back and collect that data since it'd involve watching NijiEN but all I see is modest increased viewership.

>>21307822
Not sure why shitting on Pomu means I'm a nijinigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308033
I still like and watch Pomu but I skip about 50% of her content because it's collabs with people I don't like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307963
ID and KR are joining the JP house as servants for the JP.
No wonder they cannot grow in their local market.
No nation wants to publicly be seen as subservient of other nations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307762
What is up with their fan being upset though? Is it just /vt/ blow thing up as usual? They signed up for the ride despite knowing this will happen right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308161
it's gonna be 75% at this rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308057
women rarely have any backbone. That's why they are used to being subjects of abuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307963
This couldn't be further than the truth when without the KR/ID tag, they have much more chances than those debuff tags being in there. Even at a basic level.
I doubt any ID will ever graduate anytime soon and the KR who remained are all connected either to EN or JP.
Most of them are positive about the merger and some are reinveinting themselves like Amicia from ID who now will speak english, do and organize more collabs and more.
I'm also positive about it considering the growth from Mika and Nari. ID and KR need collabs with the other branches (EN/JP) to put their name out there if they want to grow in viewership and CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308175
people expected offcollab yuri action but instead got a threesome lmao

[Anonymous No.]

NijiKR are the new comfort women for the Manjisanji to feast on now that all the NijiJP females have been used up

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308175
no they didn't know that pukey will be there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307741
>We all already know the answer to this
I don’t know, this is something else. I dropped by NijiEN thread to see the trainwreck and I was surprised: there wasn’t even much general trolling from people outside the thread pouring in, the tone was more
>I’m not even mad, just disappointed
and
>I’m not an unicorn but Luxiem panders incessantly to fujos, why can’t the girls throw a bone to us guys and pander a bit?

Seemingly, even some fujis were show some solidarity with comments like “I know how you feel, we felt the same when Pomu dropped by on the boys only MC collab”.


The tech scuff didn’t help either, making the whole thing an absolute trainwreck. Let’s put a bookmark in this date and monitor the numbers going forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308314
Anon, that thread has less than 150 people. It's really not a large picture of anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308175
I mean the schedule and twitter post only contains the 2 females off-collabing and nijikeks got clickbaited so hard that they seethe LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308274
>>21308274
>>21308274
Your rimjob poster is lost on the catalogue again, come take him back.

[Anonymous No.]

What would happen if Fubuki and Matsuri announced an offcollab but Roberu was a surprise guest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308161
Interesting, but I'd still say you'd fit into the "adapted" category. Guess the point I'm making is these kinds of things won't turn off the audience that's still around, in your case you've just become more selective of the streams you watch. Which makes me wonder, is there a point where male intrusion becomes too much for you and you quit watching her entirely, even her solo streams? Or would you stick around as long as there were still a few solo/female only streams around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308424
kek that guy still yapping about avengers shit? that's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308270
KR/ID tag is not a debuff you retard.
Just because ANYCOLOR can't promote them successfully does NOT make them debuff.
I mean, just look at Isegye and fucking Holo ID for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308434
Winning son would get his dick wet with hag and menhera pussy and no one would bat an eye. Fubuki already friendzoned all her fans and Matsuri has long since alienated all her gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308270
>Most of them are positive about the merger
Survivor bias. The ones who disagree already left.
> reinveinting themselves
More like giving up their prides and values, turning themselves as refugees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308434
i would be very concerned for Roberus safety and pray that he gets out of it unmolested. i would even be willing to trade places with him

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308434
Fubuki fans would be livid even after she chased out the unicorns. Fubuki still throws gachikoi bones, especially in members only content.
Matsuri fans wouldn't care because they don't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308424
Avengers lives rent free in his head. he should watch more DC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308424
That's not him, not enough obsession with hairy anal-rimming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21308495
>Matsuri has long since alienated all her gachikoi
Couldn't be far from the truth.
yes matuli doesn't has much gachikoi compare to, say, wamy. but she has more gachikoi than Mel and Chocosen.

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>>21308682
>mel and choco
bad examples for that one

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>>21308449
I'd still stick around because I enjoy her voice/content/personality and she often streams at a pretty good time for me, right when I get off work. 12-4 PM EST right before Ina starts streaming. It's not realistic that their content will ever be 100% collabs or even 50% so there will always be solo streams to enjoy. In fact a lot of times she streams solo early and then does a collab later in the evening. I'll watch one and skip the other.

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>>21308508
>>21308482
I didn't expect many in here to agree with me but you could at least replied to the content of the comment instead of picking only one part or shitposting.
If you disagree while Mika has now 1.5k people watching her and Nari has about 2k-1k range, idk.

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>>21308738
The Choco one? maybe.

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>>21308161
Only 50%?
The Nijisanji acceleration plan will turn that number into 60%, then 70%, then 80% and so on.
Voicing your opinion on this publicly will get you shunned by the younger fans, telling you to fuck off and labeling you as a drama-tourist as if you were never watched them to begin with.

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>>21308391
Thread isn’t representative, YouTube comments aren’t representative… what would take to convince you that some people were really disappointed even if they don’t generally mind the collabs with the boys?

>>21308434
Nah, the comparison isn’t appropriate less because Roberu is a boy and more because Holos rarely collab off the box.

But take NijiJP: imagine an off collab advertised as a sanbaka off collab and (let’s say) Oliver dropped by.

One of the complaints about this Pomu collab was the absolute awkwardness and lack of chemistry between the three of them.

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>>21308826
Probably because you didn't in the first place as you are at best a nijienfag

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>>21308682
All her gachikois left are schizos who didn't care about her door or host yab so why would they be upset about her talking to Roberu? Kinda my point

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>>21308795
Mika's increase began long before they even announced her branch termination, it's exclusively due to cozying up to EN and has nothing to do with whether she's labeled as an ID, KR or JP. Anyone not in the EN branch won't get automatic support from those fans and will have to earn it, the hard way, like Mika did. She's probably done well over 20 collabs with EN at this point right? I don't think any other non-EN talent has even done 5 or more with the EN branch.

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>>21308825
Youtube comments aren't representative when a minority of them were like that. And I fear for your mental health if you think vt is representation of anything.

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>>21306890
>Yagoo can magically squeeze numbers out of the dry rock that is indonesia.
He kinda did which is why we're rather optimistic/generous with our predictions.

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>>21308825
>But take NijiJP: imagine an off collab advertised as a sanbaka off collab and (let’s say) Oliver dropped by.
You mean what already happened for Nina/Mysta collab and no one gave a shit?

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>>21308795
An ID with no ID fans, and a KR with no KR fans.
Their presence are a constant reminder of Nijisanji failed expansions.

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>>21308934
Of course anon, I don't think literally everyone will incline but they have more chances. But I think for KR this is a much better path, even more when they already speak Japanese for years anyway and for ID, their best is EN and ID collabs alongside solo content.

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>>21309036
>One of the complaints about this Pomu collab was the absolute awkwardness and lack of chemistry between the three of them.
hmm maybe this part you didn't quote might have something to do with your confusion?

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>>21309036
Mika to NijiID is what Moona to HoloID, Mika will wow the world with her debut at next year's NijiFes.

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>>21307762
>3 way docking
You just know

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>>21308826
It's fine, I'm a Hololive fan first and foremost and I accept that I'm an artifact of a time where there weren't that many streams around a Lazulight was a good fill-in when no one else was on. I don't feel it's my place to rage against Niji and try to force them to change their company's style when I don't even watch 19/20 of the talents. I still enjoy the solo streams and that's enough.

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>>21309036
ID have a lot of ID fans, if anything most of their fans are from ID.
And uh, I'm not sure you can say much about hololive when HoloID most subs and viewers are eops. They never would grow without english, at least not as much as they did.

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>>21309089
Mika is more like Ollie. Hana is still the face of NijiID.

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>>21309089
Is Mika a great singer?

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>>21308785
>"it's okay if tyrone pound my girlfriend's pussy repeatedly bareback on my bed everyday if he's gone when i get home from work :)"

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>>21308825
> what would take to convince nijiniggers
Pomu can stab and kill Finana in that stream, and these niggers will just blame Finana for not avoiding the knife.

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>>21308785
Thanks for entertaining my thoughts anon, and it's also good to see a genuine nijifan around in the thread, the tribalism /here/ against NijiEN has gotten to the point where it's come off as bitter and pathetic, good to see some of you either stuck around or visit from time to time.

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>>21309089
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJIKEKS TELL THEMSELVES

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>>21309196
To be fair if something like that happened it would be Finana's fault for setting Pomu off like that.

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>>21309132
>I'm an artifact of a time where there weren't that many streams around
i always get taken by surprise by post like this until i remember that most anons only talk about EN holo niji but often forget to add that in

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>>21308989
The equivalent of Nina/Mysta collab is if Finana and Uki offcollab and suddenly Pomu come as a surprise guest
The equivalent of Finana/Pomu collab is if Mysta and Vox has offcollab and suddenly Nina come as a surprise guest
It's about the expectation

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>>21308989
Wut? That’s not remotely comparable for two reasons:
1) Nina collab was already targeting the “wanna see a boy girl off collab”. To be an equivalent breakage of expectation the surprise guest would have to be two of the Ethyria girls and the collab morphing into a girls night out
2) having a collab with Mysta and getting Vox as a bonus is the equivalent for Holos of having Flare for a collab and getting Noel as a bonus. It just made something they consider good even better

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>>21309067
The best thing for them will be freeing them from feeling compelled to stream in their native language or collab with other people from their former branch if it's to no real benefit for them. That means the ones lacking good EN/JP skills will basically die off for good and the other ones who can grab on to a new audience can maybe survive. This might take a while as they'll still keep acting like a pseudo-branch for some months just out of habit and sentiment.

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>>21309146
Now HoloID has all the ID fans with HoloID3. Must have sucked being in NijiID huh?

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>>21309244
Case in point

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>>21309146
>ID have a lot of ID fans
yes, by forcing them to abandon the ID tag Anycolor pretty much took their only unique selling point.
Any hope of courting ID market is virtually gone and now they're basically forced to compete for JP and EN market pie.

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At this point it's clear that NijiEN is vwhores but on youtube. NijiEN is such an embarrassment of virtual youtubing with their degeneracy, blatant coombaiting, chink pandering, and overall disgusting behavior.

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How come none of the NijiEN off-collab feels as kino as HoloEN off-collab? That stream came out of nowhere but still took home 40k people watching.

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I thought I was in the number thread for a second but turns out im in the nijisister gossip thread, keep it up sisters

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>>21309146
that's about to change after kobo's debut

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Isn't this the numbers thread? Can Niji girls improve their numbers while pissing off gachikois and cgdct enjoyers, or are they doomed to stagnation?

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>>21309160
Not anymore anon.
Hana is basically the Sora to Mika's FBK

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my only question is, why the dishonesty? why didn't they just say uki was going to be there? i'm sure they didn't actually think he was going to be seen as a pleasant surprise. it feels like a yuri bait and then a switch at the last second, but why?

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>>21308795
Mika's is thanks to her hardwork, she had a rough start with some people called her leech and traitor
It has nothing to do with the merger

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>>21309089
This is such an obvious falseflagger but holo fans will think this is someone being serious
>>21309191
No. The best singers in Niji ID are Nara, Zea, Reza and Xia. The others are average to below
>>21309309
No, they don't, because most of those are EN fans. There's a reason most of them speak english most of the time. ID vtubers only have such growth by that fact. Remember how in the beginning Risu, Moona and Iofi barely could reach 100k because most holo eop fans thought they only spoke Indonesian? They speaking that language is a debuff for them. Literally all of Holo ID or Niji ID would be more popular if they debuted in JP or EN branches.

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>>21309439
They copied HoloEN's off collab having surprise guests thinking it would be hype not realizing the issues with it

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>>21309089
>>21309146
Moona's largest viewer demographic is from ID.
You could say NijiID viewers used to be mostly ID fans since only their family, relatives and staffs watch them.

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>>21309439
Because pomu were afraid of this exact reaction, but in trying to avoid it it only made the backlash worse

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>>21309439
They clearly don't want gachikois.

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>>21309462

>There's a reason most of them speak english

you didn't watch any of the debuts or post streams right

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>>21309435
Nah, Hana has the name recognition and could incline whenever she wanted with minimal effort.
She just doesn’t seem to aspire to grow any larger than she is

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>>21308989
Advertise an offcollab between a eythria girl and a luxiem boy. More Luxiem boys than the advertised one show up. Not a big deal since the only ones annoyed are those who specifically dislike the extra boys. Meanwhile Pomu advertises an offcollab between two lazulight girls. Suddenly a noctyx boy shows up. This annoys people who don't like guys, don't like noctyx and those who wanted to see the deepening relationship of the two lazulight girls. It's not hard to understand the difference.

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>>21309382
That chance was pretty much dead after 2 years with no real growth. If anything, them getting more JP and EN fans makes more sense, see MIka becoming the most popular by far in the branch.

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>>21309485
Almost all of Niji ID fans, besides Mika's, Hana's and Bobon's, are indogs.

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>>21309427
Of course they can. CGDCT fans and gachikois will just migrate over to HoloEN and NijiEN can get more fans from the Twitch crowd. If anything, this is better for both groups because they won't get any more overlaps

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>>21309391
Because HoloEN had one offcollab after almost two years, nijien have like 12 by now. Of course it'd fail to be as impact full if you spam it like it's going out of style

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>>21309391
Because the Holo one is 1.5 years in the making, for Ina and Ame to meet. Vox has been around since, what, January? Uki even less. Even Finana and Pomu haven't been around for a full year.

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>>21309571
Yeah, nice job attracting the 200 odd in dogs out of a country of 246 million

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>>21309562
ID management was pretty creative and I believed they could very much incline if given a fraction of JP's resources.

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>>21309579
Won't they be competing with Vshojo, then?

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>>21309510
Those retards pay the bills between sponsorships and VPs.

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>>21309559
No she can't, her English speaking audience from 2020 is long fucking gone. Dispersed to Holo ID, Holo EN, and Niji EN.

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>>21309529
I'm not talking about the new ones but the two gens before.
>>21309485
If you aren't interested in having discussion, don't reply anon.
>>21309460
I didn't say it has to do with the merger, my example for Mika and Nari is to show that collabs with other nijisanji branches can help you like it did for those two and how they inclined from that with non-ID and non-KR fans.

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Doesn't anyone notice that the one who always defends Nijisanji in the # thread only comes out during this time?
I notice this almost everyday.

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>>21309391
Because NijiEN offcollab is just a glorified offpako. The kino part of the offcollab you don't actually see on stream

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https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1508691889012178948

SEGA kneels to Holo too much. Korone straight up got the whole Yakuza series as a gift lol

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>>21307263
A male showing up unannounced to an all girl collab. This has happened a bunch in NijiEN though so it seems like this one was the straw that broke the camel's back. Probably because it was an off collab and those carry more weight.

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>>21309391
Hololive is anime. Nijisanji is normie drama.

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>>21309562
>see MIka becoming the most popular by far in the branch.
By leaning on the box. There is a lesson to be learned here, one that the whole two now merged branches can learn.

IDs are having a “multi branch collab marathon” this week. They finally figured out

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>>21309644
Anon.. those resources WERE from JP. Where do you think the money came for their events, merchandise and everything they did?

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>>21309485
Moona avg 100k-105k views per stream. Thats 40k-45k indogs which is alot

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>>21309571
Aren't those the three most popular?

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>>21309644
That party in their main channel with the DJ and everything was very interesting and off the box. I just don’t know if it translates well to the vtuber format as opposed to a “general channel that also has vtubers”

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>>21309651
Different platforms. NijiEN is on YouTube and Vshojo is on Twitch. They won't overlap that much

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>>21309744
Anycolor didn't gave them enough apparently.
The last "big" sponsorship/event for Niji ID iirc is 3setBBQ Poco sponsorship.

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>>21309510
Seems like they want the benefits without the drawbacks.

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Do you think Cover used strategy to make HoloID popular outside ID and then use their popularity to attack ID market?
I believe ID likes artists that successful foreignly

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>>21309510
They want the money, but they don't want to conform with the expectations that come with them.

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>>21309651
Only if they stream on twitch a lot. Right now they only do so sporadically, and only some of them. It would take a concerted effort and a change in streaming style to even scratch Vshoujo and their 20-person deep field of orbiters.

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>>21309699
She was up there with Sonic at their event last year IIRC. They really took a shine for her

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>>21309712
In phasmo though... the worst fucking game of all time. I can't even stand to watch a Phasmo stream anymore, it's almost nauseating. I hate that awful game.

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https://youtu.be/YE-faluP7zY
Marine Korone collab

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>>21309699
sega loves korosan, they've given her interviews, sponsors and she interacted with fucking sonic

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Marine Gold today?

https://youtu.be/YE-faluP7zY

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>>21309786
Yeah, for obvious reason.
Miyu's also quite popular back when she's freshly debuted.

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>>21309838
The question is can they attract Twitch crowd to Youtube?

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>>21309933
60k+ view gold

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>>21309712
Nari didn't do as much collabs as Mika and she's more popular with less subs. Bora also was the same btw, before she graduated, but much more popular.
But you aren't wrong, those collabs are good to put their name out on the two larger branches. Cia and Zea were smart to make something like this with all branches as a mini event
>>21309708
I don't disagree they were retarded and set the wrong expectations unlike the previous two off collab but the number of people who care about that is really small.

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>>21309933
Daily gold

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>>21309870
Fun theory. If it happened that way I'd bet it was a happy accident though. Cover gets a lot of those.

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>>21309699
Korone's one of the few people willing to play Sonic games, she deserves it. Same reason Kiara gets treated well by Bandai-Namco for playing their garbage RPGs.

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>>21309870
That's what happened with HoloFes. Now, HoloID has a ton of ID eyes on them, similar to other popular IRL streamers from ID.

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>>21309933
>>21309936
oh shit, are they doing a race again, i love those streams

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>>21309933
Yeah, this is strong contender for gold.

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>>21309850
Only so much money you can give to someone who isn't giving you any returns. ID/KR were money pits for them.

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>>21309870
They do, and that's why yagoo is seeing so much success with ID3 while nijiID is getting shut down.

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>>21309699
Damn, no Ishin or Kenzan.

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>>21309689
CH/SEA fanbase. Nothing EN about NijiEN.

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>>21309985
Not just Holofes, they were also in most major conventions here in SEA

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>>21310057
At least they don't debut anymore ID and KR members in a while. The rest either will have to move onto a new market or leech off NijiEN.

The ID market is pretty much HoloID's territory now.

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>>21309571
>>21309786
Yes, in terms of CCV. In term of subs, it's Hana, Mika, Siska, Taka and Zea. Hana over 200k, Mika, Siska and Taka 100k and Zea almost 90k.
The interesting thing is how Siska and Taka are mostly ID speaking vtubers. But it's fairly obvious that the ones who speak more english got the most popularity, with Hana being the clearly one when she exploded in 2019-2020

[Anonymous No.]

Move when ready
>>21310082
>>21310082
>>21310082

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>>21310057
You gotta spend money to make money, but Anycolor couldn't afford to do that I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>21310198
Anime when...

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>>21310119
Is there any SEA market worth getting into or HoloID might be the safest choice for Cover?

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>>21309976
>Nari didn't do as much collabs as Mika and she's more popular with less subs. Bora also was the same btw, before she graduated, but much more popular.
Both Nari and Bora got their break by showcasing their FPS skill with the big JP boys.
After asserting themselves FPS chuubas don’t really need to lean on the box, the FPS community is a box in itself crossing company boundaries.
They’re their own audience and their own market more or less separated from the vtuber market (and even including non vtubers).

But for both of them their break came from their first few games with that JP boys.
About that: I wonder if Reimu has a chance to get her big break with VSayko. How competent is she with FPS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21310057
NijiID pays their artists with "exposures".

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>>21309933
>overlapping the homo debut not just with a stream, but with a heavy hitter
It's ogre, holo girls will strangle the new homos in their cribs

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>>21310239
MY and SG are pretty safe bet, not to mention they're quite similar to ID.
flip and thai are the hardest I guess.