/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

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What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/
Territories map:
https://de.catbox.moe/t1i8xj.jpg
Map with coloured and labelled countries
https://files.catbox.moe/4uzmap.png
Map with no borders:
https://de.catbox.moe/ay0pbj.jpg

CURRENT GOAL: Vote on current issues (>>21027357, will repost in the thread)

>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs
>/inf/: !np2UIvxwi.
>/clg/: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/zo5ke
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
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Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated lore in OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Proposals to be voted on
https://rentry.org/fiahh
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

I'm still making dinner.

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>>21277350
Too much Steven Universe for you. Intervention needed.

[Anonymous No.]

Question to /ggg/ and other tropical/subtropics nations: Do you have peppers and curry spices for trade? Spices sell for huge money in the north.

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>>21277350
im just praying for geoanon to bless /risu/ with his knowledge. Like i said last thread i have a cool thing i plan to do with gem related magic depending on color. I have this shit planned and im just ready as fuck.

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Check 'em

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>>21277723
Are you looking for beryls like rubies?

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>>21278983
Just what would be realistically available based on the world. Since i have no damn idea how to do that shit myself

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>>21279261
maybe just a little war is fine, I'm sure nothing will go wrong...

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>>21279261
Oh WARanon. Tell me what is it about war that you enjoy? Is it the resources gained? The loot from battle? The thrill of taking lives. What is it about war that makes you lust for it? And one other question. Do you think risuners are cute?

[Anonymous No.]

/morig/ seismologists have detected curious rumblings from Mt. Mori. As is tradition, doombeats are worried that this might be a sign of an upcoming eruption, but the Goddess Faithful priestesses have announced this is a good omen. Further information on this development should come sooner rather than later, close to the Day of the Goddess, which the whole island is awaiting excitedly.

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>>21279645
In war the strongest prevail and weak are forced to changed or perish
War brings out the best in all of us

>Do you think risuners are cute?

[Anonymous No.]

Question to /risu/: What if /nasa/ finds diamonds?

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>>21280928
thank you WARanon for at least answering one of my questions.
>>21281034
DESU i was curious because wanted to ask in case risu could dig their own mines. But it would be nice since i know magic crystals are a thing and i know a lot about them in fantasy. Crystals are fucking awesome

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>>21281396
You do know vitubium exists right? Anyway I'll do some surface research for you. It appears there's a variety of ways gem deposites can come to earth. Since /risu/ doesn't have volcanic activity then the gems have to come from sedimentary processes. Turquoise and opal seems to be your more common gems. As for rarer stone deposits they'll have to come from landslides and rivers from the mainland if you're lucky. You're probably better off having different colored chuubamite crystals for spell casting.

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>>21281937
yes chuubanite/vitubium is the reason our trees are enchanted along with risus blessing. im sorry im just a really big fucking nerd who likes crystals and cute squirrel girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>21282245
Does /risu/ have dry riverbeds. If they do then you may find secondary deposits of gems to mine. Even when your river changes course that maybe a good time to go gem hunting. Secondary deposits can also be found through landslides, wind erosion, etc. Secondary deposits are easier to mine than primary deposits.

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>>21282673
hmm/ ill have to see if sub tropical rainforests would have those, i assume they do in some places. And i assume rivers are a thing in a rainforest. So yeah there can be some in certain places. ill think of a few spots soon

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I also thought about /rrat/'s subterranean biome. It looks like they have a lot of underground rivers and channels. If there's enough light from the surface there can be underground lush caves quite similar to /rose/'s underground. Just not as bright. Depending on erosion /rrat/ might have easy access to copper and gold in the mountains.

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So I think /nasa/ has a way to trade with /risu/. /risu/ would have to send their goods to /ggg/ to be exchanged. /nasa/ is using /who/ ships for transport. /risu/ would use either /morig/ or /infinity/ ships. As long as the goods are preserved like dried nuts and dried ground pepper they should last. Though we'll have to wait until the summer harvest before we can send the next shipment.

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

According to the /meat/ resource analyst, infinity actually has diamonds. Not sure how much, but just saying.

[Anonymous No.]

spent the last hour researching sub tropical rainforests

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21286809
I know significantly more about steam engines than I did some time ago

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>>21277717
We do! https://rentry.org/deiphagymining
Any kind of spice that you're looking for in particular?

>>21283399
Rivers will be fairly common in /risu/ due to all the rainfall, although I feel the issue's that /risu/'s flat terrain means there aren't a lot of rocks to erode, which seems to be the sticking issue when it comes to its gem deposit. Based on the geologic province map, I would say most of /risu/'s stone (and gemstone) would be coming from hydrothermal deposits (as most of its land likely come from the constructive continental margin to the northeast), hence my tentative list in >21113715 when we're waiting for geoanon to do it more properly. I only listed off the more common ones (quartz, agate, grape agate, amethyst, citrine, and rose quartz), but there're probably more types of gemstones available.
I'll see if I can find a geology textbook once the local library opens back up again.

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>>21286500
Makes since. If you have lots of coal then you'll find diamond if you dig deep enough. In theory. Its usually not worth mining gems from primary deposits. Now if you have easy secondary deposits then sure. Go mining. /nasa/ is relying on sedimentary deposits because the mountains are on /rrat/'s border. That said /nasa/ is in a solid place for sedimentary deposits with the tundra wetland. The richest iron mines on earth are sedimentary deposits.

Also this is a question for later but how interested is /infinity/ in coke production? Coke is used in blast furnaces to make pig iron (hot iron) into easy steel. /nasa/ is planning on producing coke for our own blast furnaces. Plus /nasa/ can harvest the sulfuric acid and carbon monoxide to make other stuff.

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>>21287520
for now ill just assume this is correct and see what ive got to work with. I did mention we do have molerisuners which are a minority of risuners that prefer to dig underground and provide the mainland risuners with stone and other useful stuff.

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>>21287520
/nasa/ is looking for anything and everything spice, but mostly curry spices and peppercorn. I suppose what /nasa/ can do is preserve and seal herbs in return. Dried herbs make pretty good spice.

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>>21280199
Cute girls > schizos

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>>21286809
>>21287289
i learned the linguistic features of indomalaya because someone wanted to more accurately name a city

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>>21286809
Oh, there're much deeper rabbit holes...

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>>21289138

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Would /nasa/ even have hydrothermal deposits? We're quite a ways from the tectonic fissure.

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>>21289822
I'm kind of doubtful (but I don't really know enough about geology to tell for sure), since compared with /risu/, /nasa/'s land is probably exposed for a longer time (based on the tectonic analysis, where the council plate is probably spinning at a slow rate compared with others, hence the constructive plate boundary at Sakuran), so I assume weathering will grind down a good chunk of the sedimentary strata despite polar conditions not being conducive to that. As such, maybe only the hardest part of the deposits (like zircon, although sedimentary zircon seems pretty small and not of gemstone quality) will be left.

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>>21292304
If we have to we can dig down deeper with powered drills. Though first we need to secure iron before anything. How's iron looking at least?

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>>21288062
Check our product list and tell me what you like to import! We can work out the details later.

>>21283946
Given that /rrat/ has an expansive cave system, I assume it's probably part of a larger karst cave system (limestone dissolved by water over a very long time, carving out very deep caves like the ones you might've heard about in South Caucasus. In that case, some of these paths might be close enough to the surface that part of the roof have caved in, creating sinkholes that let sunlight in. In practice, that's probably the main source of light /rrat/ has. It'll probably have a lot of underground water, which will be home to cavefish and other troglobites. Of course, in most cases, the lack of sunlight and thus photosynthesis means that these biomes will be pretty barren.

>>21292765
Digging down will likely lead you to the igenous/metamorphic strata beneath the surface.
As for iron, tundra seems to be famous for its iron deposit, but I can't find why that's the case. I guess you can assume /nasa/'s set in that department before we know more about the underlying cause (if nothing else, the tundra terrain likely means no one has been mining there before).

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All anchored posts in the last thread archived. Also reorganised /nasa/'s archive a bit.

>>21293943 (Me)
>It'll probably have a lot of underground water, which will be home to cavefish and other troglobites
It means /rrat/ in general. The sinkholes will be relatively lush due to their access to sunlight, allowing algae and plants to grow... although being exposed to the cold mountains outside (not to mention being on limestone rock) might be detrimental to large plant growth.
I guess one implication of this is that most of the mushroom substrate (the kind of stuff mushroom grows on, and convert the usually inedible stuff into edible mushroom) will likely come from either tundra grass and moss, or lumber from lower elevation area. They might also want to save their droppings...

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>>21294545
The mushrooms eating the decaying matter underneath produces warmth. There's a species of turkey that uses fungus in decaying leaves to warm eggs. (I think brush turkeys?) Also there might be some lava flow the closer you get to Sakuran.

>>21293943
The nords were famous for their iron which came from the tundra. Because nobody settled here we should find both iron surface mines and drill deep mines? I do know /nasa/ has unearthed some meteorites that seem to have come from a meteor shower. Though meteorites are too rare to melt down into useful materials. Well at least we have iron, coal, and shale oil. Now if only we can get other minerals like aluminum, zinc, lead, and copper. /nasa/ will have to import those elements sadly. Which means diesel powered ships should be the next major advancement.

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>>21293943
Before I forget. For spices we'll take all of it. Though /nasa/ is going to have to figure out how to pay for them since you'll need more than wheat and malt liquor.

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21287708
I'll have to ask about coke production later, but thank you for mentioning it!

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>>21296156
>/rrat/
They do, but from what I can tell, the heat's not too significant (usually a few degrees for mushroom - brushturkey incubation mounds are kept around 33 degrees Celsius, but they live in Australia, so the temperature difference probably isn't too significant). I think /rrat/s might need to rely on things like fire and insulation to keep themselves warm. For lava, /rrat/ itself sits near a destructive plate boundary, so it should have volcanism already. Magma does keep you warm (and is the main reason why things get warmer the deeper you go - about 35 degree per km - although it should go without saying that living near magma chamber underground can be risky at times.
>/nasa/
From what I can tell, Nordic Iron Age was mostly powered by bog iron (which I reckon /nasa/ would also have plenty of due to its tundra wetland) rather than mineral deposits (bog iron does count as deposit, but I digress), although it's hard to tell whether that's due to limits of geology or technology (extracting iron from bog iron is easier than from other iron ores).
The other minerals you listed seems to be something that can be found in SedEx deposits. On one hand, they seems to be common (or at least more easily accessible) in wetland biome due to how they form, but on the other hand, I don't know if the permafrost beneath the active layer is going to put a stop to it (water can't really pass through ice), so maybe /nasa/ will have to drill through the permafrost to gain access to them.

>>21296423
Awesome! I'll mark it on the table for now. We can discuss what /meat/ imports in return once you get a more comprehensive picture of your resource.

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>>21297492
/nasa/ can manufacture dried pre-packaged meals as rations. /morig/ was very interested in rations. For the meals you just add boiling water and they're good to eat. Though they do lack meat.

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>>21286809
I went down an entire rabbit hole on liquid explosives, specifically alcohol based ones, before throwing it all away by writing in Phoenixes which basically hand waved away all the explaining I was planning on doing with my research...

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>>21298243
Are the phoenixes cute at least?

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>>21297896
Rations are nice, although it makes me wonder if the technology used to process food into rations can be used for other materials...
Does /nasa/ have a policy when it comes to exporting drugs to natives (that they already use, although maybe less refined)?

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>21298384
Yes, they're big and orange and mostly flightless and people keep them in farms to extract the flammable wax from their feathers

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>>21298543
When it comes to exporting medicine there's a risk of it being reverse engineered. But usually reverse engineering medicines need chemistry beyond this age. Any drugs /meat/ is looking for?

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>>21299532
/meat/'s probably aware of it, so it won't ask /nasa/ to export their own medicine (which is probably in short supply and thus too expensive/invaluable anyway). Just that I think once they learn /nasa/ can process food into what they see as smaller and more efficient packages, some will ask if the same can be done with drugs, alcohol and herbs they use.
I don't have the exact detail, but /meat/ lore has its veteran warriors make use of liquor (primarily corn whisky) mixed with chuubanite-enhanced shrooms and herbs to go berserk in battle. This is usually done only by veterans because it takes experience to control the consumption in such a way to reliably go berserk without just getting knocked out cold. With /nasa/ processing and packaging technology, though, the consistency will make it easier for less-experienced people to benefit from the effect. It's probably not something that can be reverse-engineered, since /meat/ already has the ingredients and make use of its effect. It's just that they don't have the technology to refine them for easier use.

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>>21300219
Well food chemistry naturally leads to the production of drugs.

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>>21300493
True, but even if it isn't mentioned in the Prime Directive greentext, I feel /nasa/ probably has *something* regulating sale of drugs to natives.

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>>21300805
Probably addiction. You can get addicted to pain killers since many of them are opioids.

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>>21300805
While we do produce a small quantity of drugs for recreational use, most of us just prefer to get "high" on food. We aren't a space exploring ingredient procuring species for nothing. And the sharing of any of our drugs is not really encouraged, since one of our expeditionary fleets had a pretty bad experience on one exoplanet. Basically, what wouldn't even be enough for a good high for us, killed one of the leaders of the planetary government in a moment. Guess we can just take more than most creatures can. So yea, while we wouldn't be exporting them, if you come to the station with a trade caravan or something and are really, really presistent about trying some, you can. Just be aware that what awaits you is most likely death.

[Anonymous No.]

I suppose /nasa/ will have to experiment with vitubium-based drugs. /nasa/ hears about an all purpose medicinal herb in /uuu/'s forest.

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>>21301947
/who/ merchants tend to use shrooms from the forest to get fucked up, you could certainly get them easily.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of /who/, how are the rations we made treating the sailors on voyage?

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>>21301832
Yeah, I'm not asking /nasa/ to share their drugs, but help refine and process the drugs /meat/ already have into packages that are easier to measure and consume.

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>>21302666
the sailors were already used to canned goods, so they understood them very easily, they are also easily storable, so they don't cause any logistical issue.

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>>21302881
The mushroom stroganoff is pretty good. The powdered milk makes it extra creamy.

>>21302851
/nasa/ needs to do more research on Vitubium herbs. Mixing alcohol with certain herbs and mushrooms seems to make a potion that's a general healing balm thick enough to close wounds.

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>>21303314
It does, and /meat/ probably has something like that given /meat/ chuubanite's effect, although the side effect of the processing being rather painful is probably why painkiller herbs have to be mixed in as well. It's not fleshgrafting-level powerful, but at least you can just pop it yourself instead of needing a priest to heal you.
If /nasa/'s interested in helping /meat/ refine its drugs, /meat/'s happy to send what they use to /nasa/ for them to poke around, or have them come to /meat/ to research, since the vote has decided that chuubanite beyond their land will (gradually?) lost their potency, so some field study might be required if they want to see how it works in the native environment.

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>>21303475
We'll consider it. /nasa/ is going to have a very busy spring setting up the sawmill, mining the crater, and building elecric arc blast furnaces. And an investigation of the principal getting too personal with an /rbc/ native.

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>>21303475
This actually poses an interesting dilemma. Would advancement of local medicine be forbidden under the "share no tech" part of the Grand Directive? It would afterall influence the natural progression of things if we were to share secrets of advanced drug processing. And could the Grand directive change ooo, foreshadowing(maybe, possibly, i might have something cooking up in my head) in order for us to accomodate deals like this in the future that may shorten our stay on this rock?

Either way, /nasa/ would have to debate on this for now

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>>21304231
The funny thing about chemistry is that in practice its like cooking. We just have advanced cooking tools to isolate active ingredients from their sources. For example there's key ingredients in the druid's herbs and mushroom balm that makes it a sterile adhesive. As for sparking cellular regeneration that's the Vitubium compound's doing. Yes a compound as the Vitubium bonded with the herb's essence to create a unique chemical that triggers healing.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't participated here in like a month because of the downturn in loreposting relative to metaposting, is it just the 8 or 9 anons indicated in the poll results going back and forth now? What's the current big narrative goal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21307495
Welcome back!
For the ~10 anons in the poll results, it's a system we use to decide important issues about the world e.g. how chuubanite works, where countries go, and so on. There're more anon around, just that we decide to limit votes to 1 per thread lest the more populated threads dominate the project to the detriment of smaller ones.

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>>21307495
There's more, that's just thread representatives, no overall goal as of now, we're hoping to make new invites to attract more threads to build their lore. some anons are doing geography and resource analysis

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>>21307495
I'm not sure what metaposting refers to, but I feel like the thread has been decent at not timelooping recently.

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>>21296156
Sakuran probably has a shit ton, or rather many shit tons of iron and aluminium, and from what I understand we are rich in IOCG, Ni-Cu PGEs and Kimberlites, so we'd likely also have copper, gold, platinum and some diamonds.
Dunno enough about gems to say, if geology anon is around I'd appreciate their help

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>skimmed through the lore doc
how do you guys managed to cramp all this autism in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

THE FOLLOWING WORLD IS SCHEDULED FOR

[Anonymous No.]

>>21288060
I did some digging (heh) in the Encyclopedia of Geology (the pdf in >>21289138), and it seems we might be able to add some igneous gemstones to /risu/'s list, although the amount might not be as significant as countries in regions with active volcanism.
The part about secondary deposit is correct (>>21282673), although /risu/ still suffers from being mostly flat and thus has smaller amount of rock to weather away.
With that said, the previous comment about hydrothermal gemstone still applies, and apart from what I listed, you can probably add topaz and emerald into the list.
Despite its fame in tropical countries like Myanmar, ruby and sapphire is probably not something common in /risu/ due to their metaphoric nature - Myanmar's sapphire comes from the Himalayas upstream, where the progeny has the required pressure and heat to generate it.
Other kinds of minerals of note that might be present in /risu/ include turquoise and malachite (considered gemstone only in finer grade, although it also contains copper), as well as galena (a common source of lead, although the extraction process creates a lot of lead and sulphur fume), which also contains a bit of silver.
I'll keep you updated when I find more in my future dives.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been making notes for a lore-dump, but I feel that there are a few questions that need answered before I can get to writing.

First question: When /who/'s partial annexation of /uuu/ was voted to be undone, did the land grab still happen in the first place or was it retconned into never occurring? If the former, is there a general consensus on how long it lasted?
For reference, the thing I'm planning to write is a summary of how Saplings from /uuu/ adapted to life in /who/ before things went back to normal and how they may have potentially affected some minor aspects of /who/ during the time there. As you can guess, if the initial deal between the two never happened, I can shelf this idea in favor of something else.

My other question is a consequence of my notes: If something is written concerning two countries and/or their inhabitants, does it count as lore for both or just one of them?
I admit that I'm from /who/ and that the piece is meant to be from the POV of someone from /who/ reporting a series of observations over a course of time, but when looking at my bullet points it seems to be that most of them are about the Saplings themselves and the questions I plan to ask /uuu/ about them adapting to life in a different country. It seems likely that more of this piece will be about the Saplings than it will be about the Hoomans, and I want to be sure ahead of time if this imbalance is okay assuming the other thread involved was consulted for notes and a draft of the lore is sent to both threads.

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>>21313088
My body is ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>21313311
>1
I'd prefer if it was in place for some time (a year? that I don't know) but was undone. It's much more interesting than just retconning it.
2.
Lore for both, imo. And stories detailing life for more than two generals would likewise be lore for all involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>oversaturation of the Holotori fad causes unrest in /KFP/
>escalates into a vicious civil war
>idolfag extremists win the civil war and establish KFSP or, the KiaraFags Seiso Partei
>militarizes
>surrounding kingdoms become wary and cut off trade and diplomatic ties to /KFSP/
>culminates in a plan by the KFSP military elite to annex /duck/ as they consider it bird blood like them
>one thing leads to another, /who/ finds out about the shocking news of /KFSP/ planning to attack owl detachments posted in advanced positions as a preemptive measure for a multiple-front far of KFSP expansion and a crusade for idolfag supremacy
>in light of this Zimmerman-telegram-esque turn of events /who/ begins mobilizing against /KFSP/
First time posting in this thread, hope this is autistic enough. In the words of Pomu I, "kinda feels like all out war".

[Anonymous No.]

>>21316610
Sounds very interesting, but I'm not sure on the general consensus of international war

[Anonymous No.]

>>21316610
To the Northeast from /KFSP/, /duck/ declares itself an open city to avoid unnecessary destruction. A small /KFSP/ detachment posts itself there.
(following the Owl Republic lore) the Republic of /who/ has around 10 legions each comprised of over 25,000 troops, in total a land army 250,000 strong.
Going to assume the technology and battlefield scenario of this world is of the 18th century, but far from 1870-WW1 periods.
/KFSP/, having just endured a damaging civil war from the inside have an injured economy, barren economic and military leadership, and a newly conscripted army in need of equipment, uniforms, provisions and trained officers. Northeastern detachment (5000~) still posted in /duck/ + 4 newly formed corps (20,000 soldiers each) + 30,000 cavalry + 5000 numbers of special airborne 'Phoenix' battalions and fireborne artillery and field artillery pieces
And plenty of auxiliary, engineers (because Germans), sappers, and a logistic/medical/pay department responsible for keeping the war machine oiled and running

maybe gonna organize these ideas later

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>>21316663
It may not become an international war at all, unless you account diplomatic ties and mutual-defense agreements. /owl/ allies may join the war, invasion of /duck/irk might have repercussions later on, and in this case /KFSP/ has a near nonexistent navy. Inability for naval projection means no trade with faraway countries, no international projection, no joint land-sea operations. Adjust strategy accordingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21316610
yeah yeah that's cool and all, but will there be flammentruppes?

[Anonymous No.]

I FUCKING LOVE WAR!
I FUCKING LOVE KILLING PEOPLE FOR MONEY & GLORY!
I FUCKING LOVE DEHUMANISING THE ENEMY AND COMMITTING ALL SORTS OF HEINOUS WAR CRIMES AGAINST THEM!
I FUCKING LOVE INDOCTRINATING A WHOLE GENERATION OF YOUNG MEN & WOMEN JUST TO MARCH THEM TO THEIR INEVITABLE DEATH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21318081
more schizo than the extreme far right of /KFSP/
I believe war is a means to peace. All the greatest advances in human history are made not just by people who chose peace, but also people who chose war. picrel is world map, we prepare for war come dawn

[Anonymous No.]

>>21318514
last picrel errored

[Anonymous No.]

What tf everyone being corrupted by WARanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21319017
The world's just gettin' a lil' too peaceful...
Also haven't you heard? /Who/ answered the declaration of war from haachama.
The Legions are marching to war!!!

Seriously what are the rules for international wars? The college grill war arc would be fun to integrate into the /vtwbg/ lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21317695
How do you expect to raze civillian housing without them

[Anonymous No.]

>>21316610
Kino, however I always thought of holotori as the axis

[Anonymous No.]

>>21319344
EXTRA! EXTRA! INTERNATIONAL NEWS!
REPUBLIC OF WHO'S WAR DOCTRINE AND OPERATIONS LEAKED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21317242
KFSP Imperial Army
initially 4 separate Corps, now 5-7 being organized
Corps system allow for independent operation as a mini-army, in prelude to rejoining other corps and giving battle as a much larger force. As /KFP/ land is mountainous and lacking in proper roads, Corps can move faster along multiple routes than in a single file as a main army. Perfect for blitzkrieg tactics and Napoleonic-level maneuvering.
Corps I-V are composed of 15,000 infantry, 5,000 cavalry, and its baggage and artillery train. in all, just a little over 20k strong. Corps VI-VII respectively are reserve corps and a dedicated Cavalry corps under the direct command of the Kaiserin herself, Kiara I.
Lastly, there are special Phoenix battalions that can be amassed during an opening of a battle to act as a grand battery of powerful artilleries, airborne firebombers and a viable shock/guard regiment of elite troops.
The general /KFSP/ foot soldier is armed with a flintlock powder musket, slightly inferior to the /owl/ soldier and his issue firearm. Provisions and uniforms are pretty standard as well. The line infantry is distinguished by brilliant, white coats and orange-blue helmet plumes, reminiscent of the mythical Phoenix's feathers. Light infantry and skirmishers are more camouflaged with green uniforms good for forest biomes.
The cavalry from the pre /KFSP/ civil war is one of the best in it's age, but turmoil has affected them a bit. Heavy cavalry and light cavalry as usual, and the elite hussar and scout regiments are one of the most endeared elements of the KFSP imperial army. They can traverse rough terrain with ease, and cover many miles ahead of the army, acting as a screen and its very eyes and ears.
emphasis on artillery and the Phoenix battalions, as they are quite special. while gliders and rudimentary aircrafts are not a surprise in this world, the abundance of and the strong industry in KFP for manufacturing Phoenix wax and Phoenix gravy leads to powerful advancement in weapons employing fire and artillery. While /owl/ artillery is in general far heavier and superb in siege warfare, KFP field artillery is light and highly mobile thanks in part to attached cavalry batteries. These pieces are deployed with deadly efficacy against enemy lines, and since this is the age of line warfare, it's something that decides a fate of a battle.
Sieges can get quite ugly. Storming of battlements and walls by KFSP flametroopers are difficult, but such weapons brought too much fear even to the enemy. eventually use of such inhumane weapon is banned.. airborne firebombing however is not so different a story. Phoenix wax is like white phosphorus, and can burn down entire cities. If however an airborne firebombing force is spotted in advance, defensive measures can be mounted. Firebombing is only really effective on clear days.

Logistics and good governance however are far more important in the grand scheme of things. Given the aggressive expansionist policies of /KFSP/ in its effort to develop and sustain itself, a war on multiple fronts is imminent. The theocracy of /wah/ on the west, /mion/ in the north, /duck/ northwest, and /holo/x in the east may join in a coalition together with the /who/ republic to launch an incursion in /KFP/ and overthrow the KFSP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21320370
Whats going on in Haachamawor-
OH THE HUMANITY!

[Anonymous No.]

honestly if the goal is to establish a lasting, prosperous empire, in the likes of the Roman Empire, the First French Empire, or the British Empire, there has to be a vigorous combination of diplomatic, political, economic and social reform not just militarily. Can't wage war against the whole world, Alexander was about to do that and his conquest fell apart quickly when he passed away. So while its tedious to keep occupying the surrounding countries around /KFP/, they must be kept in line. A federal system but still imperial may work fine, diplomacy ensuring /duck/ and all the other neighboring countries remain allies that are willing to comply troops, materials and pay levies to ensure KFP supremacy.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought kfp would be friends with holotori not try to Poland them

[Anonymous No.]

Not anymore, Mumei since EN2 mogging Kiara was like Treaty of Versailles to the then reigning holobird, and Kaela from niji being shilled as a penguin even though she's not even a bird in any remote way was the last fucking straw. He who wants peace must prepare for war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21321758
>mogging
In what sense...?
>Kaela from niji
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>21321857
Kaela from HOLOLIVE ID.
must've mistaken that niji-tier model

[Infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21275015
Infinity has made a flag for our schizo containment island.

[Infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Here is a zoning map of our island. I will update our general history archive personally so no need to anchor

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324145
Not mining Schizograd?
also that capital's probably rainier and foggier than how people from UK think their country is, nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324422
So basically Alan Moore's version of the UK?

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21324422
Ah, moody atmosphere perfect for an oppressive theocratic regime slowly opening up to the world while contending with civil wars.

[Anonymous No.]

Gentlemen. It is I, The OGsuner. With a brilliant idea. In fact this may be the greatest idea i ever had.
Ive been super excited about PRETTY GEMS PRETTY GEMS recently and I think i have the solution to obtaining pretty gems and their usage.
So risu is a magical forest. With magic. Gemstones are known for being catalysts for wands, staffs, orbs, and magic crystals exist.
Lets do some fucking magic
In terraria, you can combine acorns with gems to create gemcorns, which you can then plant in the ground to create gemtrees.
Thats right......GEMTREES
I WANT TO GROW EMERALDS AND RUBIES OUT OF THE FUCKING GROUND INTO TREES WITH THE POWER OF THE LAND
Now you may be asking what would i do with all these shiny rocks?
Well, BURN THEM OF COURSE
Like i said, each gem can be used as materials for spells, so for example rubies can basicaly be used as a source of fuel for fire, kind of like coal.
Each color gemstone has its aligned usage with some for healing, others for weapons even but they disintegrate upon use.
So they need to be replanted. Which is why I propose the molerisuners have an underground gemtree farm.
>grows gems out of the ground just to throw them in fire
>pays everyone in nuts
IM A FUCKING GENIUS AND I LOVE IT! I CANT WAIT FOR YOU ALL TO TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!
HOLY SHIT IM EXCITED

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324539
What's funny is that the first society the clockmen meet to warm them up are also crazy esoteric fundamentalists

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324568
now
that's kinda nuts

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21324568
I love this idea. Full support from infinity. Also easy access to magic fire source gemstones sounds super useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21323248
yeahhhh....
while it is a pretty cool headcanon, I don't think the whole proposal would hold up in a vote, especially since it is not really compatible with any prior KFP lore, and realistically out thread having decent relations with the hoomans

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324820
>>21324568
nasdaq be trying to make profits meanwhile risuners just tossing precious gems away for disintegration for the sake of alchemy kek.

I did mention the rare spottings of witches in risu. So these witches would use gemstone magic to do all their stuff. I finally have a reason for them to exist as well as solving the risu gem problem. Everything just works AND HOLY SHIT IM HAVING SO MUCH FUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324568
Sounds pretty nice! How's the acorns combined with gems, though? Also, are the gems from gemtrees also usable for making more gemcorns?

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21324943
Your fun is infectious. What other applications do these gems have? Do you have a list of different gem nuts and their applications?

[Anonymous No.]

ri2ner here
Im just trying my best

[Anonymous No.]

KFP here, something something war ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324945
This would have to be done by the witches, which i said are very few in number. It is an alchemic process and the exact methods are mostly a secret to even most risuners.
>>21324990
why yes. malachite/emerald is green so that can be used as life force. essentially healing and disease curing.
rose quartz is pink so the gem of love. ill leave the usage to your imagination.
amethyst is purple so that could be the gem of death. Wizards would need to defend themselves so amethyst would be on their staffs that they could have a one time use of an energy attack of some kind (like in terraria)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324943
I imagined a similar thing involving Fauna and the existence of rare green 'earth crystals', which have strange properties. Fauna can create them, and these crystals appear under large sacred trees kinda like truffles. If you smash them, it can instantly heal you or even warp you to a nearby distance, kinda like chorus fruits. It emits soft light and has magical properties, something like that. Weird stuff, maybe can be researched further

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325144
hi ri2ner

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324945
yes and yes. if you ever play terraria this is literally what you do. unlimited gems to sell for money but in this context im using it for alchemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325238
Calm before the storm, in a few hours there will be may even be a rally

meanwhile, we look and see what's the other countries up to

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324422
>Not mining Schizograd?
What do you think the inmates do...?
>>21324521
Damn, too late for a Minutemen joke.

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21325268
Gonna pour Kronii Milk and other assorted holy body fluids on these just to see what happens, hold on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325413
I haven't

>>21325268
Interesting! What factors affect the resulting gems from a tree? Like, is it predetermined by how the gemcorn is made? Or is it related to the soil's nutrients? Or is it partially random?
as for colours, you can basically fill any space on the spectrum with quartz subtypes

>>21325552
Just wondering if there's a reason why it isn't marked for mining

[Anonymous No.]

>Kronie paratroopers lands in /ggg/
>Deploy their chemical throwers
>Mists every civilian with Kronii Milk

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21325738
Unfortunately that'd be counter productive. Kronii Milk makes you have faster reaction time, like time has slowed down. We don't have offensive use fluids, as of yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325852
Mdude, youre forgetting
drug bomb Chumbuds and get the fuck out
theyll tore their soldiers apart

[/meat/ No.]

>>21325909
hehe...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325650
gemcorn is ENTIRELY dependant on what gem is used to combine with acorn. emerald + gem will always be emerald gemtree.

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Now that magic is back on the table, I'd like to discuss with Infinity if they'd be interested in Kronies having weak (very weak) psychic abilities that line up with Orks from WH40K. Meaning if enough Kronies believe in something, it becomes true for all Kronies. This is a reference to our thread meme about "manifesting" sexposts onto reality if it gets to popular.

If infinity is in favor of it, would /vtwbg/ oppose it? Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325311
if anyone in /uuu/ is here i could explain how this could be fleshed out further. uuu and risu i imagine wold get along quite nicely as would rose since were all nature based

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325958
meant to say emerald + acorn. derp

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325650
Because is basic zoning, all activities will happen in all the island, but there will be zones where certain activities are more prominent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325335
yayy
>>21324568
Nuuuu! dont waste the gems!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325986
I really like this gif for some reason

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21325986
Examples of this would be
>Kronies think other peoples too primitive to use our tech, even if it's just a 50~ year difference
Kronie weapons have a tendency to jam, dud, misfire, and even explode with other peoples.
>Kronies believe Kronii Milk slows down time for the drinker
It gives people heightened senses, giving the illusion of a slowed perception of time.
>Kronies get a good harvest, assume Kronii did it, SHE LOVES US
The priestesses will soon have a vision of the Kroniissiah spreading her love and approval to Infinity.

And so on. Basically it'd be minor things, affects chances, nothing to special. This isn't early Ork psychers where a gun is just a pipe and a bullet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21326129
silly ri2ner. were not wasting any gems. were using them for their intended purposes. rubies are meant to be powerful coal. other gem colors will be assigned to their elected roles as i have laid out. Everyone else reading this dont worry ill update the lore and make an anchor thread about the use of gems in /risu/ later on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325986
I don't think the two magics are the same...

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>21327195
I mean, it could be derived from Kronii Vitubium. It could be the cause for our high rate of schizophrenia as well. And I meant that since magic / low fantasy is on the table, maybe people would be more lenient on low fantasy psychic.

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty every vtubium regardless of which deity it synchronizes with can cause schizo
Even comfy innocent deities like JP indies has its side-effects

[Anonymous No.]

>>21329127
I wonder how /meat/ schizos look like

[Anonymous No.]

>>21329127
Maybe it parallels becoming a gachi?
You sacrifice your time and mental energy to follow and pledge allegience to an e-celeb larping as an anime girl
Just like cultists doing the same to abhorrent lovecraftian deities, your gifts are not without repercussion. Sanity and money

[Anonymous No.]

>Wake up to declarations of war.
...Fug. Will they come for /nasa/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21330286
From what I can tell from our fellow /meat/heads we're all warm and friendly.
But very unhinged and indifferent towards the most gruesome happenings.
Maybe just casually go about our daily lives as a child gets dismembered alive in front of everyone like it's a water fountain

[Anonymous No.]

>>21324568
So how do you make vitubium runes in your wands and staffs? Do you use branches from magic trees? Then carve rune circuits? Then make a glue out of tree sap and vitubium dust from shattered gems to fill those runes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21330949
Maybe other forms of vtubium
Like liquid ones from sap
Is the magic in Risu strictly Risu aligned? Any other non-Risu chuubas you treat as heroes/demigods?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21326247
The tech one is a bit of an issue since it would effectively give infinity an even larger technological edge over the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>21331043
Not sure about limits. I do know /nasa/'s meteorite is capeable of making wormholes. We plan on using it in the spinning sphere stadium in the center of the city to make a near zero-g gravity field. What would Risu's magic be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21330949
um. i coud say yes since i havent delved that far yet.
>>21331043
I would say /risu/ is probably the nation that uses magic the most. we pretty much sacrificed technology for it. and yeah the magic exists because our faith in risu is so strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21331321
>capable of making wormholes
Somewhere in the desert, an emir hears profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21331321
rubies = overpowered charcoal
emeralds = healing/disease curing
rose quartz = love/sexy time
amethyst = weapon/gem staff. (see terraria gem staves)

ill update the rest of the colors into an anchored post later on

[Anonymous No.]

If KFP is still around, I'm curious what would be KFSP's stance regarding /morig/. /morig/ currently maintains a resupply warehouse in a /kfp/ harbor, with the officials' blessing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21331471
Ruby might be a bit unlikely (unless imported gems also work that way and allow /risu/ to produce them after the first import). Maybe something like carnelian or jasper if you want a red gemstone (of sort) for the fire effect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21327352
NTA, personally I feel like this is the kind of hand-wavy "will anything into existence!" magic that makes worldbuilding less fun. I'd rather it was more specific in its causes and effects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21330949
>carve runes into magic sticks
that doesn't make much sense with how it's supposed to work. the glyphs are made of the stuff, not carved into something made of it. your best option is with activator substances, and since /risu/ apparently is obsessed with gems, it makes sense for the activator substances to be gems, in my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332079
this is why i was hoping for a list and i could go off that. Why i was praying to geoanon. I wanted to have an established list of viable gems in /risu/ and whatever colors i didnt get i would just use whatever else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332191
when your too fucking excited about PRETTY GEMS PRETTY GEMS and forget to apply logic (well fantasy logic). I envisioned it as the witches physically consuming the gemstone for whatever reason then just putting another one on their staff. There are several ways it could possibly work and this way does seem like it would make the most sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332266
quartz has pretty much the entire spectrum of colour, so going off the list on wiki should help you fill in the list

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332474
Well heres the thing that i need to establish. I liked the idea of mai pretty gems because the magic concept is fucking awesome but the witches that do this are EXTREMELY limited. There are most likely less than 50 witches in all of /risu/. Most risuners wont have this luxury of gemstone magic and it wont even be in the major cities. Finding a gem witch will ironically be like trying to find an actual gem, it will be deep in the forest with entire small settlements centered around one witch. Our witches of course are treated with extreme high respect and serve as leaders in their respected settlements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332634
Sounds about right please have them dress like witch Risu, I love that design

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332748
why of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332776
Thank you, fellow witch enjoyer

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw no Risuner witch gf

[Anonymous No.]

>>21330472
nah, no reason to go after spacemen. I will admit space exploration is very interesting and the sooner we can reach the rocket age, the better. /nasa/ tech in the wrong hands is another story..
>>21331988
They'll probably freeze the warehouse at best, reclaim it at worse and aggravate the relations with /morig/. Since the /KFSP/ coup, the KFP navy isn't in its best shape and majority of the surviving /KFP/ loyalist ships are docked in safe harbor in other places, like /wah/ island. /KFSP/ wants to retain as much trade connections, not alienate itself which is dangerous especially after being weakened by internal turmoil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332425
gem coated dildos

[Anonymous No.]

>>21331988
what is /morig/ again? retard here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21313311
Alright, representative here.
1. I just consider it retconned, It happened for meta reasons and I'll leave it as meta, so I'm not planning on adding it to the lore. On that note, I still need to think on what the compensation should be.
2. If it involves the other split, then you ought to ask them first, I don't think they'll care too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332891
Before we used rockets for space we used rockets for explosive artillery. Even in the right hands rockets will be used as weapons. And rockets aren't just made with hydrogen and oxygen. They're easy to make on a small scale if you can pressurize fuel into a tube.

[Anonymous No.]

Also with war does it mean its time for /who/ to commit war crimes for Mumei?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332936
That would be the Mori General.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21334112
Actually, what is this KSFP thing supposed to be? I don't really get it, also, we're halfway across the globe, we don't really have any other options for intervention in a hypothethical /kfp/-/duck/ war other than shitting up their navy, the first to get in there would be O.K.F.A.M.S. wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332891
>/morig/
Ohh that's fun. Alright, we'll try to formulate how we respond to those events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21334457
Regardless remember to pet your owls.

https://youtu.be/LqiyeGKlINQ

[Anonymous No.]

Thread theme:
https://youtu.be/oZ3iZNA-NwY

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332891
Is the KFSP thing actual lore you guys are proposing or is this a headcanon made for discussion in this thread? Because, I'm telling you now, attacking /duck/ will cause international conflict.

[Anonymous No.]

i fucking love you guys. You all had no idea how excited i was to post about my genius idea of growing gems out of the ground. This thread is too fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21334820
>Soi Wars
Just let it go. It belongs to Disney now.

>>21334826
/nasa/ unfortunately does not have the numbers nor capital to wage war. We can barely make enough ammo for guns by hand. At best /nasa/ can supply food rations. Even then that's limited based on our own stockpiles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21335050
>unfortunately
So /nasa/ does like WAR...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332191
The runes would be sparkly and pretty and would glow when used. They would also enhance the focus of wands and staffs via vitubium circuitry so the gem doesn't explode in your face. For wands the gem can be at the end of the grip. Then when you flick the wand the energy flows through the runes straight to the tip. The magical tree wood would serve as an insulator to the runes so that your fingers don't burn. Also magic wood doesn't incinerate like regular wood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21335050
>Soi Wars
Uhhhhh stay mad?

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of vitubium wands it makes sense that the wands and staffs would be activated with kinetic actions. One of the ways of charging vitubium is with a kinetic impact. Perhaps what you can do to activate the wands is shake the nuts inside. The nuts then hit the vitubium to charge it up. Then you flick the wand to shoot that energy wherever you aim. Same with staffs too, though staffs are more of an area of effect rather than precise like wands are. I knew I would figure out how to make nuts work with this eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21334826
I'm kfp and I am honestly not sure myself what is going on

[Anonymous No.]

Another idea for /rrat/ and Sakuran. They should have natural hotsprings. Hotsprings and bath houses are a cornerstone of early civilizations as they provide a public place of rest and relaxation. Also baths lead to longer lifespans as they along with soap help clean off filth to prevent infection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21334972
It's the only fun thread on this board
Everything else is just bait and drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>21332891
Another question, what is the status of the loyalist chain of command? What happened to the previous head of state? Is there a government in exile?

[Anonymous No.]

>Tfw ywn feel Vox's foot long cock throbbing and veins pulsing as he empties his balls straight into your ovaries and impregnate all your eggs making you a spawn queen for his children
Voxsisters... my cervix is flooding

[Anonymous No.]

>>21340344
Uhhhhhhhhhh did you get lost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21340344
Is this lore for the /nijimale/ nation?

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

alright I'm going to have to call a veto, or at least a very heavy rework to the KFSP. I find it, as it currently stands, very difficult to reconcile with current KFP lore. The Holobirds are much more likely to form an Axis or informal union have one of them call for Anschluss, especially since many of the Holobirds don't even have land borders with us.

I'm also going to call into question the efficacy of attempting to annex or invade Duck, a thread that doesn't even have a representative.
In my opinion our lebensraum/Anschluss target should be /Wah/ since joke wars between KFP and Takobell are declared all the time by both Kiara and Ina, the fact that many schizos from the egg arch were either posed as, or were, Takos, and the fact that despite all this KFP and Wah still generally get along pretty well.

I still like the idea of the KFSP since it gives the country conflict and dynamism I think the idea should be shelfed until we can find a way of better implementing it.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>21341189
Mapper KFP here, seconding this.
There is no lore based reason to install a new fascist Government, since there is neither an in-universe or out-of-universe reason for bad relations with /duck/.
The idea of introducing a little bit of war is interesting however, to spice things up....
This however should be:
a) put on the back burner for an indefinite amount of time, at least until we have solved the naming question
b) decided with the other current kfp members in this project (I think we are 4?) since these decisions are pretty significant on a global scale

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>21343354
I think the naming issue should be pretty easy to solve. Either keep calling it /KFP/ since that's what the thread is already known as, or if that's really an issue just change the name to "Takanashi Kaisereich"

[Anonymous No.]

The guy who proposed it straight up said it was his first post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21344809
yeah, we could just go with an interchangeable name in Texts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21336936
Sakuran already has hot springs marked on the map (if you zoom in). They really shouldn't have been visible but scale happened so. I'm thinking of turning one of them into a caldera lake of an extinct volcano but that needs more research. Might also add more hotsprings elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21345613
I guess he reached a suitable autism level.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like I'll be out of town again. So if you have any questions then you can ask the other Sanalites here. If you want to ask the thread directly then tag your posts with "/vtwbg/". We'll usually respond here first.

[Anonymous No.]

Boomp!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21325986
I'm against it. The only 'real' magic comes from Chuubanite, and the way it's applied in here is to even out the technological advantage for the more primitive nations.

You can't have magic, tech, psionics, and everything at once...

[Anonymous No.]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.]

Yo where is everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21364122
OGsuner
ill admit i was actually touring /pyon/ and their chuuba for a bit today. they got a nice girl over there for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>21364122
Lurking and working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21364277
rosebud! do you guys use pretty gems for things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21364926
Heyo! We do, yeah. More for clothing, as fashion is very important to us. Gems are nice to have as little trinkets as well though, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21365028
Nice. Im gonna finish up /risu/ use for gemstones but we use them for buttloads of things. We can even grow them like trees KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>21365748
I read that as buttplugs and things and my brain didn't even try to correct itself at first, just going "yea, that makes sense for them"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21365748
Tree gems? That's a strange notion, but an interesting one to be sure. I'm excited to see what you've got planned!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21365901
i made a big thing about it higher in the thread. give it a read when you can, its pure genius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21365748
As much as I love the idea, chuuba magic is still not OP enough to break the rules of magic
So growing gems would take a long time to gather enough energy and raw materials to grow and harden the gems

[Anonymous No.]

>>21366207
Meant to say break the rules of physics
God why am I dyslxic sumtimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21366207
I mean i can deal with that. I wouldnt expect gem trees to grow instantaneously for sure. Theres so little witches to even use them anyway and i did intend for it to be a rare thing not a "HOLY SHIT RISUNERS HAVE MILLIONS OF DIAMONDS GROWING OUT OF THE GROUND EVERYDAY" thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21365897
don't give them ideas

[Anonymous No.]

>>21366565
risuners have enough sex as it is. they probably dont need em desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21366207
To be fair, a mundane oak tree also takes decades to grow, so that's in line with that. I imagine gemtrees probably will require more nutrients (and maybe specific trace elements in some cases) to grow as well. While the process of making gemcorns and gemtrees is meant to be a secret, I imagine chuubanite is used in some steps, so it probably plays a role in leeching up the material to create the gems.

>>21366621
Eh, they just aren't the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>21366565
>Make green gem healing buttplugs
>they heal any tears that may or may not happen
>lucky risuners with said plugs are infinivirgins

[Anonymous No.]

>>21366668
it would be. molerisuners would be mining for gems anyway i just like the idea of magic being used for cool shit.
>>21366733
this fucker figured out the secret of the rose quartz gem. Virginity is replenished upon the females for maximum nutting

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>>21341189
>>21343354
S stands for seiso- SOZIALISTISCHE!
On a serious note the premise revolves around a split between the more tolerant, casual KFP fanbase and the KFSP who are idolfag fanatics - real schizos who think toilet humor is subhuman. /KFSP/ would be the kind to carpet-bomb /vsj+/ without any warning, Pearl Harbor style. That's how seiso they are.
occupying /duck/ was just an excuse to secure trade and border security, especially since they have no strong representative/leadership at that moment. Actually warring with a fellowbird nation is kind of pointless, that's why /KFSP/ pulled out of the region after securing it. As for foreign policy and the idea of invading neighboring countries, it's tedious and since they have their own culture and patron chuuba, the practical course of action is just leave then alone to be autonomous after securing a treaty or alliance.
/KFSP/ and /wah/ are on tense relations since the coup d' etat. The remaining /KFP/ loyalist navy is in safe harbor at /wah/ Island, a hundred miles south off coast from KFP. /wah/ supporting these remaining opposition spells trouble as they're taking an opposing stance against /KFSP/ who want to reclaim those ships, though their remaining navy is severely weakened. /KFP/ loyalists took all of the flagships with them and many of the experienced engineers, officers and staff after the civil war.
This will escalate later on if a coalition forms against /KFSP/.
>>21337478
They evacuated on /KFP/ flagships and took much of the navy with them to /wah/'s southern island. A lot of the old aristocracy is executed but a whole lot more fled the country, leaving the economy paralyzed. The Kaiserin, Kiara I herself is still in the capital, not under house arrest, but under pressure to quell the public demand which calls for imperialistic militarization and nationalist policy.
>>21334457
/who/ Republic is the only force that can match /KFSP/ given that they have a superb navy and ten army legions. Think of Great Britain and Napoleonic France. Intervention would take place in the form of a naval blockade cutting off the southern trade lines of KFP. Another reason why /KFSP/ will want to push northwards, either through /duck/ or /fbk/ in order to reach the coast there and reestablish a trade route and naval port. 2MAD0

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>>21348672
>>21367361
He's beginning to beleb.

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>>21367361
the Republic is half a continent away thought, we don't really have any feasible way to intervene because logistics don't allow it, althought we do hold somewhat close relations to /awat/, a main rival would have to come from somewhere else entirely. Still, neat autism.

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What does /risu/ think of the idea of rattling nuts inside wands for power? There's a post earlier in the thread that I wrote about it.

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>>21369051
Linking for reference: >>21336433
Feels like the wands will have to be on the small side of things to keep the wand reasonably easy to wield, maybe cashew or peanut?

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>>21367361
Anon, let me explain why this would cause international conflict.
/kfsp/ attacks /duck/. /duck/ is an alliance called /okfams/, with /mogu+doog/, /mion/, /fbk/ and the nakiri nomads. Due to their alliance, they would support /duck/, either by sending reinforcements and supplies to /duck/ (mostly /mogu+doog/ as they're closer) or by attacking you in different fronts to draw your army away (/mion/ and /fbk/).
That's the north. To the east, /holox/ may intervene, specifically the takane lui faction may see this as a chance to prove themselves as a holotori and either try to attack you from the flank to seize land or negotiate privileges.
To the west, /akushio/ may help out /duck/ due to their deities being gen mates, but frankly I don't think they'd care. They'd probably take refugees though. /clg/ would definitely send a large force of their knight orders to reinforce /duck/. There's also /wah/, in which /kfp/ have fled to as you've said, where a resistance force may be organised. They'd probably force you into a ceasefire and enter negotiations, or work out a deal with /kfp/ to help them get back to power in return for land or other repayments.
To the south, you would likely encounter navy sent from /bakatare/, where a colony of /fbk/ exists, that would focus on disrupting your trade routes. Additionally, Sakuran is an ally of /mogu&doog/, /doog/ more specifically, and also is in another alliance with /duck/ and /mion/. If they were to send out requests for backup, and they probably would, Sakuran would move in to help. They'd ask for volunteers from neighbouring Hoshiyomia and /sora/ and set off with a moderately sized fleet. The aim would likely be to blockade your ports and/or take over them temporarily. If it seems like the Allied Northern Front is losing, an alliance with /kfp/ may be made to mount an assault to reclaim the capital and oust the /kfsp/. Reminder that /kf(s)p/ aren't the only ones who can use flamethrowers btw. At the same time, /who/, although quite far, may move to block your ports as well, though whether they'd stop there or attempt to raid your research centers for specialised tech is up in the air.
All in all, I do not recommend you doing this.

As lore it's even been veto'd by some of your people. It does work as a point of discussion, however. I know very limited stuff about mil ops and it probably showed, some proper military autists feel free to provide their own takes

>>21367234
>this fucker figured out the secret of the rose quartz gem. Virginity is replenished upon the females for maximum nutting
I'm not a 45p for nothing, treeratfriend

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>>21369226
What about using premature dried acorns?

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>>21368846
If the Republic fleet reaches /wah/ island and /morig/ ports and establish a base of operations there they can organize a sea-based supply line, linking along the coasts. There may be depots raised along /awat/, /hirys/ and numerous ports that are open to /who/. The Roman Empire traded with Memphis, Egypt back in the day. They didn't sail through a sea, they cruised not too far along coastlines to make sure they can always dock and resupply.
It's very likely that news of /who/ fleet appearing in /wah/ and /morig/ will trigger escalation from /KFSP/. That's like China bringing fleets to Hawaii. Not a friendly sight.

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/nasa/ can make rations that last for thirty years. Which is the entire war in most cases.

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>>21369398
I smell blood in the water...
Jokes aside, That sounds about right, and you don't really need military knowledge to know how things play out on the grand strategy level. In terms of the flamethrowers, their range is impressive for what they are, but their use might be limited if /kf(s)p/ (since the same issue would still persist for regular /kfp/ if they ever go to war) can't figure out how to close in on the enemy until they enter its effective range.

>>21369401
I guess that works too, if /risu/'s fine with that idea.

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Damn I didn't know the chicken nation was under so much conflict...

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>>21369957
I really like the idea of rattling staffs and wands with a prayer to god before shooting energy. It also matches the lore of charging vitubium with kinetic energy.

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If things kick off on the gulf coast, a blockade's a-comin'

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>>21370537
Good thing you got those /nasa/ rations then.

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>>21369453
I mean, sure, but it's a much larger trip than just going from Rome to Cairo, it's an inmense logistical cost that would take a lot of preparation, we simply would not be the first to react to any /kfsp/ manouvers, they'd get declared on by others first, in particular, all of /OKFAMS/. We'd be limited to raids (and we'd certainly try to steal as much technology and knowledge as possible). Containment would come first from the other nearby powers like /morig/ and /wah/. Our actions are limited basically. In addition to that, we don't really have any strategic interest in the area to justify intervention unless one of our allies decided to do so (like Hoshiyomia)
A much more possible route for conflict is a series of border conflicts with /wah/ instead, kind of like the indian-chinese border conflicts that happen sometimes, they're small and limited in scale, but they keep tensions up in the air and all neighbours on edge.

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>>21369398
I like those odds. This is beginning to look like a Napoleonic scenario in particular.
Assuming the first battles will occur in the Northwest as the /okfams/ coalition attempts to liberate duck, followed by the threat of /fbk/ and /mion/ mobilizing for war, then the /KFSP/ will move their armies there as fast as possible to confront. A protracted war on multiple fronts is impossible to win, as seen with Germany 1918 and 45. /KFSP/ will want to defeat the /okfam/ first then swing eastwards to overpower /fbk/-/mion/ forces. To do this, given an army that numbers no more than 150,000 and is weakened by a civil war, they'll have to intercept the junction of /mogu/+/doog/ and crush them rapidly before they even have a chance to join /okfam/. This evens out the battlefield for a chance that /KFSP/ can decisively defeat /okfam/ before they march to raise /duck/. This must happen before reinforcements from /clg/ reaches the coalition, otherwise it will be too much for /KFSP/ to resist. It will be a campaign in the likes of the German Sichelschnitt and blitzkrieg, or the Italian campaign.
Unless /wah/ actively coordinates to make war alongside the coalition, the western front is not the biggest danger at that stage. /KFP/ loyalists cannot march to the capital and besiege it, they don't have the numbers. Now if /holox/ joins the war, them marching on the eastern front will be a problem but by that time there should be another /KFSP/ corp raised to defend that side, and buy time for the main army to finish the battles in the North and consolidate.
While /KFSP/ has almost zero naval power now, coalition fleets likely won't capture KFP ports. They'll simply come under fire from coastal defenses, however should they decide to land a fighting force there they're free to do it. They have complete control over the sea now.
This is assuming the civil war created some great, young new blood within the /KFSP/ that will serve as the new officer corps and leadership of the army and government. Yeah, it's a nice point of discussion even if it's just headcanon.

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>>21371361
could it be...?

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>>21371361
warchama... /okfams/ refers to:
Okayu
Korone
Fubuki
Ayame (no general for her)
Mio
Subaru
So they'd all get on the war day one.

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By the Lovedaughter, you managed to sustain talk of combat for long enough that it summoned the war anon.

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Yo KFP
I have an idea
Instead of being uncreative and copy Nazis for the nth time like any fictional media, allow me to introduce you to some SUPERNAZIS that Hitler tried to copy
>Jorg Von Liebenfels
Founder of the Ariosophy movement. Esoteric aryanism. Believed Aryans are pure descendants of Adam and god and have the ability to do magic with aryan VRIL energy.
http://ostaragodess.blogspot.com/2017/01/copyright-peter-crawford-2017-lanz-von.html?m=1

>Guido Von List
Another esoteric aryan shaman. The Dumbledore of extreme aryanism. Founded the Guido Von List society, a literal aryan Hogwarts. Invented neo-saxon runes. He makes Thule Society look like normalfags by proposing a caste society where the non-aryans are sacrificed to Wotan

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How is /meat/'s party doing on the journey to the northwest?

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>>21372113
Dunno. Our mercs are receiving orders from Kronies.
Ask them

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>>21371361
To play devil's advocate, /kfsp/ might have trouble supplying its army to the northwest, since according to the existing map of the pre-war country, the northwest is only connected to the heartland with one major road (either hilly or tunnel, neither are good for moving a lot of resources quickly), and road connections to either /duck/ or /mogu+doog/ are questionable (since the map seems to omit international roads). So, supplying the army enough to quickly defeat /mogu+doog/ (how?) might be difficult, especially given >>21371776's case, /duck/ will be either just take over /duck/ or is also fighting the war against /kfsp/. As such, it's kind of difficult to believe it is strong enough to basically take the brunt of the coalition before taking into account other potential enemies on other sides. If we assume /wah/ is at least sympathetic to /kfp, then they might also be able to threaten the supply line to the northwest quickly (either by the more accessible river valley or going uphill) if they decide to join the war.
Overall, as a thought exercise, I feel it's unlikely that /kfsp/ would be able to go very far in the war before it starts losing ground on all sides.

>>21371826
Maybe they're always here...

>>21372113
Frozen meat is an acquired taste.

>>21372020
I don't think the majority of /kfp/ is too keen on leaning towards them, whether creative or not.

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>>21372020
Not Nazis, more like the First Phönix Empire.

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>>21372020
This cant be real people
>Googles one of them
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39795410-the-religion-of-the-aryo-germanic-folk
Oh.
Anon... why the fuck do you know about these people?

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>>21372297
Sieg heil to the Kaiserin

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Speaking of /kfp/, any of the regulars mind telling me what kind of environment do you want /kfp/ to have? Would you mind me looking over its biome and part of the natural resources it might have?

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>>21372390
two chickens one empire

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>>21372317
curiosity often leads to weird rabbitholes, plus I find them interesting and enjoyable
which is ironic because I'm black

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>>21372973
>Black
>Enjoys esoteric aryanism
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>21372236
It's a given that kfp is a mountainous country with poor roads and disconnected villages that make any development difficult. The construction and crossing of bridges over rivers must be taken into account, the supply and communication lines secured, and logistical issues are aplenty. There's no way /KFSP/ corps can bring with it all of its rations, baggage and artillery and at the same time take positions to give battle at a given place. The newly organized army can move rapidly along different paths to skirt or hike through mountainous terrain, but they'll have to drop the bulk of their guns and baggage behind.
I imagine the /OKFAM/ coalition will have similar problems as well, especially if they present a much larger force. The field isn't like Germany, where the allies just march through open countryside straight to Berlin. Both sides will fight over control of the river bridges, valley passes, and attempt to outmaneuver the other.
If however /KFSP/ is forced to a defensive war, it might be easier than WW2 scenarios. There are no American reinforcements (/who/ won't land in time), no trench warfare, no armored units and machine guns, no nukes. The level of warfare we are discussing is so much simpler in 18th century times.
>>21372445
As far as I knew kfp was mountainous, with the south more plain and farmable countryside. Like ancient Rome, Italy.
>>21372973
Yes, these people existed long before you did. curious what else the future holds in store for us

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>>21373463
>Forever battle of the Isonzo in /kfp/
War anon can't wait

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>>21372973
Who's your oshi?

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>>21373463
I mean more like things like climate, biome, and maybe the kind of plants that /kfp/ wants to be common in their country. Ideally the climate of /kfp should both make sense and match what the people want, so having those information can give some leeway when I look over the environment.

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>>21373925
The kaiserin

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>>21373925
inb4 sana

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One day in the snow a bread dog is pulling a sled. It notices something buried in the snow. The Sanalite helps his bread dog uncover what they found. Its a frozen corpse of a woman. The Sanalite brings the corpse to /nasa/ Station for autopsy. They placed the body in a refrigerator. However due to a power outage the refrigerator stopped working. After half a day the Sanalites checked on the body. The body somehow was still alive. Not only was she alive she was eating the flesh off of one of her arms. The Sanalites subdued her with tranquilizer and administered immediate medical aid to her eaten arm. After talking to a /who/man the Sanalites concluded that the woman is from /meat/ judging by her attire. How she got so far into /nasa/ with her clothes is a mystery.

Not anchoring until we get /meat/'s okay.

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>>21374105
>black kfps are real
Nigga...

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>>21374165
Who's her? So far it seems alright, although eating your own arm all the way out there is not exactly common even for /meat/

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>>21374165
Remove the autophagy and it's good
Eating your own body parts wouldnt be a good idea even if you can regenerate. Wastes energy

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Speaking off, need to get a new /meat/ thread up
The ID3 hype cooled off so I think the board's stable now
I think

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>>21374227
I made her up for this scenario. I figure there's a couple million people on this planet so having one or two individual stories would be fun. I work better writing anthologies of small stories instead of one big narrative.

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>>21374454
Sounds about right. I think it's good even if the autophagy is a bit questionable. People with Mai's blessing can regenerate with enchanted meat (which hers might well be if she's part of the clergy), but I imagine if she needs to regenerate (from frostbites?) she would start with less important part of her body, like her legs or something

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>>21374548
Meanwhile meat-girls with Dentata's blessing can just photosynthesize

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>>21374717
would plant girls go good with soup?

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>>21374254
>>21374548
Perhaps she's using her teeth to dig out an arrow or bullet? Sanalites are a bit overdramatic.

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>>21374855
That could work, actually. Maybe bullet since arrow should be obvious enough even before autopsy

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>>21375324
I'll have to write more tomorrow.

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>>21324145
We really need to rework our zoning if the island is 1000 miles wide. A lot more diversification since if one area is taken out by a natural disaster, we're boned.

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>>21372020
the fuck?
although this kind of idea makes sense in context from VT world's in-universe ideas
There are chuuba deities everywhere so there might be an extreme church believing they are descended from them

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>>21376189
philosophies and ideologies in-universe have been extreme so far
/meat/ - deicide and deiphagy
/asp/ - becoming deities
/who/ - Stratocracy and war

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Yellow LED lights dimmly illuminated the tall spaceman as he walked along the hallway, his eyes glued to the tablet
in his hand. Navigating through the familiar corridors was second nature to him at this point and it allowed him
to once again go through the day's schedule. As he passed a large window overlooking the grand hall, he paused
and took in the view. While the remnants of the previous day's feast were still very much apparent, the hall
stood still, save for the occasional movement from a passed out Sanallite at one of the many tables.

He loved mornings like these. Still and quiet, complete opposite of his usual life.
These were the few moments when he could truly feel at peace.

Breaking out of his thought, he walked in front of a large elevator and pressed his keycard against the panel.
The sound of machinery moving behind those doors put a small smile on his lips. He had not heard it in so long,
he almost forgot how it sounded.
The sound of normalcy.
Finally, after months of suffering things were returning to how they were before. Yet, he feared they would change
once again very soon.

As the doors opened and he walked in, eyes once again on the tablet, he noticed the sound of someone running down
the hallway.

"HOLD! HOLD IT! I SWEAR TO SANA IF YOU DON'T HOLD THE DOOR...!"

The small female almost hit the far wall of the elevator as she basically sprinted through the doors. Leaning on it
and taking a few moments to somewhat catch her breath, she turned to the man and angrily glared at him.

"I swear, if your lanky ass..haa..haa... doesn't stop scheduling these meetings so early in the morning, i will take
a F0R-K and shove it...haa...haa... so far up your ass, the tip will poke out of your mouth! Do you have any idea how
far my departments are from the council room?!"

He smiled. "Good morning to you too, Jane."

"Haa...haa..yea, good fucking morning boss." she said with a small smile appearing on her face.

"Overslept again?" he asked, holding back a chuckle. She was never a morning person, ever since they were kids.

"Not another word out of you, you freak. How in all hells can you be up and about this early when you drank even more
than me yesterday?". As she finally calmed her breath, Jane straightened out and leaned on the wall.

"So? what you got for us on this fine day, o mighty principal of the 74th expeditionary fleet? We finally getting off
of this rock?"

"How are the greenhouses doing? I hope not many were damaged." He asked while ignoring her question.

She stared at him for a moment, her eyes betraying that she wanted to push the question further, but she relented for now.

"Yea, most were undamaged, suprisingly. Once my boys and girls sober up a bit we will start setting them up next to
the others. We should have them all up in a week or two at most. Seed caches were also ok, with only a few breaking
open. I will just delegate a greenhouse for mixed seeds, nothing much to worry about. We should be back to our
regular meals in a few months if everything goes as planned."

"That's great to hear, i bet some were getting bored with the rations as of late, our regular ingredients will bring
up the morale aga-"

Jane scoffed."Says the biggest glutton on this station. I swear, one of these days me and Helen will so some thorough
tests on you, how you stay that thin with everything you eat is just unnatural."

"Heh, sorry, but i will have to pass on that. Knowing Helen, i might not leave that room alive."

"Haha, Yea, true that. She does get really into it once in a while. But really, my question still stands. What is this
meeting about, Alexander? You were being weird yesterday as well"

They stared at each other for a brief moment. She never used his full name unless she was deadly serious. And this was
serious. They finally managed to raise the station out of the crater. What they do from here on might irreparably alter
the course of the civilizations on this planet, something the Grand directive strictly forbid.

A long sigh escaped his lips.

"We stand at a crossroads, Jane. Depending on the information i get in that room, i might be forced to make some
drastic decisions"

She tilted her head. "For example?"

As the doors opened and Alexander stepped out of the elevator, he stopped and looked back at her.

"Perhaps the Grand directive is outdated"

>>21274941

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>>21376387
I realize now that a lot of the lore I've written for /who/ does involve war and it's effects on the Republic in some way, didn't really mean to write it as stratocratic thought.

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So what's /who/'s opinion on using /nasa/'s bakeries to make buns for hamburgers? /nasa/ also has recipes for all kinds of sandwiches from pulled pork, to paninis, to vegetable and fruit sandwiches, to open faced club sandwiches, to grilled cheese sandwiches.

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>>21376870
Seems smart and logical, we'd certainly try to do so, I imagine /nasa/ would attempt to become a buns producer to sell it to the hamburger stores across the country once they obtain enough capital

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>>21376678
>>21274941
Oh yea, forgot the title for this story. "Winds of change"

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>>21376678
"And what makes you want to abandon isolationism and 'non-interference'?"
" ̶C̶h̶u̶m̶b̶u̶d̶ ̶c̶u̶n̶n̶y̶ I mean... research."

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>>21376678
Some advice on Notepad. Turn off wordwrap before copying the text. Also I'll need to be apart of this meeting.

>>21376918
Sandwiches are a goddamn miracle food. You can put almost anything between two slices of bread and eat it with your hands.

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>>21377132
Yea, don't usually write in wordpad, just had a bit of an outage when i started and couldn't be bothered to copy it into rentry and pretty it up, thanks for the tip!

Also, sure! Just pick a department and a name and gimme a bit of your personallity traits and i can write you in for part 2.

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>>21377265
How many /nasa/ anons are there in here?
And how often do you guys worldbuild in your home thread?

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>>21377132
So far i am thinking of including farmers(Jane), medical(Helen), general research, Culinary research, mechanics and expeditionary team department heads to be in the meeting. Pick and choose (would advise against mechanics tho, he talks a lot in ch. 2, so he is already kinda set in stone on how he is)

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>>21377265
I'm the anon who wrote the /nasa/ principal logs so...?

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>>21377441
Great, so you are Alex then. Solves that. Hope you don't mind being the tall, cold faced leader figure.

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>>21377486
I guess I have a name now.

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>>21377486
>/inf/ namefags: gay orgies on Twitter
>/nasa/ namefags: cool in-universe characters
They are not the same.
t. neither /inf/ nor /nasa/

[Anonymous No.]

Also I'm guessing Sanalites came back from /ggg/ and want shark GFs? Also is /mogu+doog/ cat and dog people?

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>>21377595
Hope it doesn't bother you. tried to give you a cool name, ended up with Alexander, cuz it sounds strong. Should also mention that the story won't really thread much new ground, just set up for future expansions to the lore, like how we might be staying here for multiple generations. Also won't be completely destroying the Grand directive, would waste me writing it in the first place, just updating it to the new situation.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora land's war doctrine
https://youtu.be/yRGgl9KT9rE

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>>21377430
At the least, i count our Principal and me, but i would guess more like 4-5. And we don't really do worldbuilding in /nasa/ that much really, Principal just ocassionally brings up topics that were discussed here back, which we then flesh out a bit if we can.

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>>21377845
I guess I have a name to tripfag at home when I get back on PC. Also the Grand Directive should be debated in /nasa/. That said its funny how I came off as stone cold when in reality I'm just an idiot.

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>>21377961
Oh yea, definitely, any Grand directive changes will be brought up in /nasa/ before i finalize part 2(should be a few hours before i get the rough draft of the changes up, really wanna take my time with this). And as for the character, i really only wanted to write up a competent commander figure, and those are usually serious and tough. Principal did hold everything together for the last half a year, amidst schizo raids and dead ends every 2 steps of the way

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>>21377905
As a Balkanfag, this speaks to me. Which is bad, since i am also a /nasa/ anon.

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Biological Anthropology of the Deadbeat
The inhabitants of /morig/, the deadbeats, are physically quite an odd specimen when compared to the human and demi-human inhabitants of /vt/. Physicians have dissected deadbeats and found that perhaps unsurprisingly their bones are incredibly dense and strong.
The explanation for this is of interest. The deadbeat bone seems to be very highly mineralized for one; where a standard human bone may be measured to contain 60 to 70% of minerals by weight, deadbeat bone contains up to 80%. Moreover, where mineralization is normally accomplished through the deposition of calcium phosphate, deadbeat bone is found to contain a large fraction of biologically synthesized iron oxyhydroxide, or goethite. The mineral is organized as nanofibers weaved through the porous structure of the bones parallel to the major stress axes, granting remarkable toughness to the material. The folk legend that deadbeats have bones of steel may have begun when a deadbeat bone was found to be weakly magnetic due to this high iron content.
The flesh and muscle are less developed than the average humanoid's. In appearance, the average deadbeat will look like an unhealthily thin person due to this low muscle and fat tissue volume, even if the individual is perfectly healthy. This emaciated appearance is thus not a cause for concern. The composition of these softer tissues is responsible for this; alongside a degree of calcification, they have a reduced water content, as low as 40% compared to 76% as found in common mammalian muscle. This does not however impede the function of the musculoskeletal system. This high dehydration reduces the blood supply to the muscle, but this is mitigated by adaptations in the cardiovascular system; polycythaemia is present, due to high red cell and nutrient content in the blood, and cardiomegaly is consistently observed, the larger heart being able to pump more of the thicker blood where it is required. A corollary of this high viscosity is that superficial cuts will tend to stop bleeding relatively quickly, but this does mean that deadbeats, especially older or unhealthy ones, are prone to blood clots.
The heavier skeleton and reduced soft tissue results in deadbeats being on average the same weight as most humans people, with the exception of the Goddess Faithful priestesses. This will be touched on later in this article. This high overall density results in deadbeats being very poor swimmers, although submersion can still be prevented with vigorous swimming.
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>>21379127
The most surprising thing about their physiology is that their nervous system is entirely contained within their bones and many of their internal organs appear connected to their skeletal structure. Many of the internal organs are sheathed in a white calcified protective layer. This combined with the density of their bones leaves them with an incredibly well protected nervous system. Some academics have suggested that the flesh is infact more of a puppet that the skeleton controls. This explains the old deadbeat saying “There is a deadbeat inside all of us”. The scientific community rejects this hypothesis, though that may be due to its controversial nature. This leads to deadbeats being able to survive grievous injury, the level of which would normally kill say a hooman from bloodloss, as well as maintain functionality so long as the bone is not significantly damaged. Heavy injuries to the head are still fatal, as are generally heavy wounds to the upper chest. These characteristics may explain why even when thrown into some of the most suicidal military operations, deadbeat squads may find victory in operations intended to be diversions. They suffer terrible losses and injuries, but are able to keep pressing forward due to their unique physiology.
The actual cause of those adaptations remains a hot topic for study, but correlational studies are informative in this regard. Deadbeat-like adaptations are universally linked to exposure to Mori-attuned chuubanite. In fact, people from other countries will see themselves take on those characteristics (migration of the nervous system into the skeleton, goethite synthesis in osteoblasts, calcification of tissues and cardiovascular adaptations) slowly if exposed to high concentrations for years. A lifetime would result in measurable changes, and the offspring of the immigrant would have complete deadbeat adaptations within two to three generations of /morig/ island residence.
This is most clearly observed in the Goddess Faithful priestesses. Renowned for their beauty and voluptuousness compared to other inhabitants of the island, it is a a common misconception that the religious class does not display deadbeat characteristics. This is incorrect; they display them more strongly than any demographic, likely due to their extreme exposure to high chuubanite concentrations near Mont Mori. Those exposures would destroy the mind of most, but for the strongly-minded individuals able to handle this strain, the result is an exacerbation of all the characteristics described above. The more "normal" volume of soft tissue is actually an accumulation of even higher amounts of densified deadbeat muscle, explaining remarkable power of the priestesses; they effectively have two to three times the muscle mass found in a deadbeat of normal strength. All this added calcified tissue leads to priestesses of average height and seemingly normal build commonly weighing up to three hundred pounds or more.

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>>21274941
>>21379127
>>21379159
This is an updated version of the section that comes after # Marketplace in the /morig/ lore archive overview.

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>>21274941
It's been a day and a half, their eyes affixed on the diplomat as he writes the last paragraph.
A subsection here to define a limit on Imperial zones, and a paragraph on development subsidies.
The diplomat looks up from his desk. His eyes affixed on the Sanalite's helmet.
"Everything seems... normal. You're lucky to have landed in unclaimed territory. The Holo-Capital have been discussing on what to do with that backwater." he paused and looks at the portrait of the God Kaiser of HLG.
The diplomat stands up and heads towards the back of his chamber. Looking for something on his collection of tomes and books.
"Despite coming off-world, the culture and religion of your people are not too far off from ours. Our priests were even shocked to discover your goddess is the missing piece in reconstructing the lost pantheon." the diplomat hands over a foot thick tome to the Sanalite to which he awkwardly accepts and carries.
The spaceman reads the cover, assisted by the translator display on his helmet. A book explaining the history and theology of the Holy Live Governorate.
"You seemed... unphazed. Is our existence and presence not a concern to you?" the Sanalite asked as he skimmed through the pages.
"Oh no. Visitors from the cosmos are not uncommon in our Empire. In fact you're not the first to do so. The Moon people came down here to form an embassy centuries ago which over time grew into a village, then a hamlet, and now it's a self-sustaining kingdom serving the God Kaiser." the diplomat points to a section of the map labelled /moon/.
"And right over here... we have another extraterrestrial civilization. Semi-extraterrestrial by now." the diplomat points to a kingdom labeled /pagi/. A group of humanlike extraterrestrials, much like yourselves, landed here. Over time they mingled with the locals and too became a self-sustaining government. Although their mythical technology was lost to age, their people still look up at the stars romanticizing their ancestor's birthright."
The Sanalite froze. He was shocked. Stunned.
There were others before him who too met the same fate as his people did.
"These people... they didn't return home?" he asked dreadfully.
"The majority didn't. Now I won't say they can't do so. The Moonmen have easy access to Vtubium portals to return to the moon and the worshippers of Iofi still have their ancestors' knowledge." the diplomat flips several pages on the tome, stopping at an unfinished graph.
"It's more of... they have no reason to."
A graph detailing the Holo Pantheon, with the Moon goddess and the Xeno goddess somehow fitting in-between native ones. And a missing section in between that suspiciously meets Great Sana's description.

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Oops, posted the wrong versions. Second attempt kek.

# Biological Anthropology of the Deadbeat

The inhabitants of /morig/, the deadbeats, are physically quite an odd specimen when compared to the human and semi-human inhabitants of /vt/. Physicians have dissected deadbeats and found that perhaps unsurprisingly their bones are incredibly dense and strong.

The explanation for this is of interest. Deadbeat bone seems to be highly mineralized for one; where a standard human bone may contain 60 to 70% of minerals by weight, deadbeat bone contains up to 80%. Mineralization is normally accomplished through the deposition of calcium phosphate, while deadbeat bone is found to contain a large fraction of biologically synthesized iron oxyhydroxide, or goethite. The mineral is organized as nanofibers weaved through the porous structure of the bones parallel to the major stress axes, granting remarkable toughness to the material. The folk legend that deadbeats have bones of steel may have begun when a deadbeat bone was found to be weakly magnetic because of this high iron content.

The flesh and muscle are less developed than the average humanoid’s. In appearance, the average deadbeat will look like an unhealthily thin person because of this low muscle and fat tissue volume and almost bone-white skin, even if the individual is perfectly healthy. This emaciated appearance is thus not a cause for concern. The composition of these softer tissues is responsible for this; alongside a degree of calcification, they have a reduced water content, as low as 40% compared to 76% as found in common mammalian muscle. This does not however impede the function of the musculoskeletal system. This high dehydration reduces the blood supply to the muscle, but this is mitigated by adaptations in the cardiovascular system; polycythaemia is present, due to high red cell and nutrient content in the blood, and cardiomegaly is consistently observed, the larger heart being able to pump more of the thicker blood where it is required. A corollary of this high viscosity is that superficial cuts will stop bleeding relatively quickly, but this means that deadbeats, especially older or unhealthy ones, are prone to blood clots.

The heavier skeleton and reduced soft tissue results in the average deadbeat weighing the same as most human people, except for the Goddess Faithful priestesses. We will touch on this later in this article. This high overall density results in deadbeats being very poor swimmers, although submersion can still be prevented with vigorous swimming.

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>>21379404
The most surprising thing about their physiology is that their nervous system is entirely contained within their bones and many of their internal organs appear connected to their skeletal structure. A white calcified protective layer sheathes many of the internal organs. This, combined with the density of their bones leaves them with an incredibly well protected nervous system. Some academics have suggested that the flesh is in fact more of a puppet that the skeleton controls. Thus, the old deadbeat saying: “There is a deadbeat inside all of us”. The scientific community rejects this hypothesis, though that may be due to its controversial nature. This leads to deadbeats being able to survive grievous injury, the level of which would normally kill say a hooman from blood loss, as well as maintain functionality so long as the bone is not significantly damaged. Heavy injuries to the head are still fatal, as are heavy wounds to the upper chest. These characteristics may explain why even when thrown into some of the most suicidal military operations, deadbeat squads may find victory in operations intended to be diversions. They suffer terrible losses and injuries, but can keep pressing forward thanks to their unique physiology.

The actual cause of those adaptations remains a hot topic for study, but correlational studies are informative in this regard. Deadbeat-like adaptations are universally linked to exposure to Mori-attuned chuubanite. In fact, people from other countries will see themselves take on those characteristics (migration of the nervous system into the skeleton, goethite synthesis in osteoblasts, calcification of tissues and cardiovascular adaptations) slowly if exposed to high concentrations for years. A lifetime would result in measurable changes, and the offspring of the immigrant would have complete deadbeat adaptations within two to three generations of /morig/ island residence.

This is most clearly observed in the Goddess Faithful priestesses. Renowned for their beauty and voluptuousness compared to other inhabitants of the island, it is a common misconception that the religious class does not display deadbeat characteristics. This is incorrect; they display them more strongly than any demographic, likely because of their extreme exposure to high chuubanite concentrations near Mont Mori. Those exposures would destroy the mind of most, but for the strongly-minded individuals able to handle this strain, the result is an exacerbation of all the characteristics described above. The more “normal” volume of soft tissue is actually an accumulation of even higher amounts of densified deadbeat muscle, explaining remarkable power of the priestesses; they effectively have two to three times the muscle mass found in a deadbeat of normal strength. All this added calcified tissue leads to priestesses of average height and seemingly normal build commonly weighing up to three hundred pounds or more.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>21274941
>>21379404
>>21379435
Anchoring. This would go after the # Marketplace section of the lore overview for /morig/, replacing the greentext that is currently there.

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>>21379372
Cool lore here, is this how /nasa/ gets the idea to let go of the Prime Directive?
Also damn we should get people from /moon/ in here, we probably need to elaborate on those portals kek.

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>>21379372
>/hlg/ stands for Holy Live Governorate
HOLY FUCK THAT WORKS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21372445
Feel free to do so

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bump before limit

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/meat/ got pruned just 10 posts in
WHY?!

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>>21383689
Jannies...

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https://twitter.com/JAPversus/status/1508943874860924933?t=4KvpnuE4lLddNVCSx1Vz7Q&s=19
Not accurate to our time period but I think it's a cool design for a modern /rrat/ soldier

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bumperino

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lmao

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nigger end me

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>>21386668
Got it

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Becarefulofwhoyoucallfriends.ThepeoplewholovedJesusarealsotheoneswhowatchedhimdie.

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WHY IS OUR THREAD ALWAYS KICKED TO PAGE 10 IN UNDER 20 MINUTES?!
Just how many new threads are being made?!!

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>>21387523
Eh, it's close to the bump limit anyway. I'll get the new OP read for post.

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test bump

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>>21274941
Proposed addition to /who/'s general lore: On entertainment and street culture:
In the rural towns and villages in the hilly east, children and youths participate in games where they chase down large owl-like land birds with bats. This practice seems to stem from a folk tale regarding a fanatical follower of the nameless one, barging into a local temple with a bat and claiming the nameless one is among the female worshippers. Historians cannot ascertain whether the story really happened but this game remained one of the most popular children's game in the republic. In cities and villages in the east where there's no such bird, children playing as the 'bird" are dressed in cloaks instead.

Proposed addition to /who/'s Army: Militias: With a population of roughly 12 million, the republic has a large reserve population of around 8 times that of the active army. This puts the ratio of potential military personnel to civilians at approximately 30:100(or 218 per 1000 capita). In order to maintain the reservists' combat readiness, there are various militias affiliated with the army available for any interested citizens. The militias practice training exercises semi-regularly and participate in large scale exercises with their local Legion yearly. Most importantly, aside from being a pool of potential soldiers to replenish casualties, militias play a crucial role in defending the republic. In case of an invasion, militias not in the standing army would destroy major roads and bridges in order to impede the enemy advance. Militias are also expected to put up resistance to harass any occupying force using their familiarity with the local terrain.
Aside from military functions, the militias are an integral part of life in the Republic. The youth partake in training and activities organised by their local outfit, and the militia aid the construction and maintenance of public infrastructure. In more rural areas, the militia even acts as the de facto police.

Since 1 deal with the general lore which I'm not responsible for and 2 discuss the population number which I believe no lore has ever done before I'm pinging our rep.

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Do not die on me.

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This is what Deadbeat soldiers are like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3JI26iq9Aw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21395676
Kek yeah sounds about right.

[Anonymous No.]

New chapter of Stories Of Namelles Soldier

https://rentry.org/52v36

Because its labeled as myth/legend I plan to go more fantasy with it in the future, I just need to finish the training arc

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>>21391207
Alright.
1. Seems fun, I don't see why it shouldn't be added. Maybe I'll make an overall "folk and traditions" document one day.

2. Avoid using numbers at any cost for now since world populations aren't well defined yet so I'm cutting off that part, on that note, since the Republic is very centralized I'd say most or all militias are under control by the military organization. Youth integration in the military would instead happen by schools, where military representatives would come in and give them some propaganda, and they'd be involved in some of the duties. To that, schools in the Republic are all state-owned.

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New bread: >>21399456

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>>21391207
>>21399183
Anchoring addendum
>>21274941

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>>21400026
Added part one; I don't own the /who/ military archive

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>>21399183
Revised version. How does it look? If it's okay I'll add it to the army rentry.

The republic has a large reserve population of around 8 times that of the active army. Pick out a 100 male citizens on the streets, at least 10 of them would be active personnel or had some training. In order to maintain the reservists' combat readiness, local military districts maintain militia units and recruit any interested reserve personnel. The militias practice training exercises semi-regularly and participate in large scale exercises with their local Legion yearly. Most importantly, aside from being a pool of potential soldiers to replenish casualties, militias play a crucial role in defending the republic. In case of an invasion, militias not in the standing army would destroy major roads and bridges in order to impede the enemy advance. Militias are also expected to put up resistance to harass any occupying force using their familiarity with the local terrain.
Aside from military functions, the militias also provide public services. Militiamen aid the construction and maintenance of public infrastructure. Being stationed near communities, militias are often the first to respond to any natural disaster and lead the rescue effort before the army can provide more comprehensive relief. In more rural areas, the militia even acts as the de facto police.

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>>21400129
Thanks regardless.
>>21400204
That works out better.

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>>21399669
Twas a bit early, innit?