Ollie Deleted Her Tweet to Fulgur

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Ollie Deleted Her Tweet to Fulgur Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:37:26 2022 No.21115092 [Reply] [Original]

Fungus Covid confirmed to be blacklisted from Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:38:38 2022 No.21115154 Spear: chucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:39:41 2022 No.21115218 File: 348 KB, 678x621, 1648180838766.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The fat whore avoids the beta bitch. What great news!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:40:07 2022 No.21115240 >>21115092 It's an all out war after all

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:40:10 2022 No.21115244 >>21115092 Poor fungus, didn't deserve it. he just wants space ass but is too tsundere

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:40:24 2022 No.21115262 >>21115092 Fungus did nothing wrong Having an opinion is not shittalking Id say vox was the one shittalking

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:41:33 2022 No.21115324 >>21115092 Didn't Mori unfollowed a bunch of them before? There's never any unity in the forst place. They can try but the management won't allow it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:41:50 2022 No.21115338 >>21115092 what was the original tweet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:42:14 2022 No.21115365 >>21115262 Nice try Fullgore

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:42:31 2022 No.21115383 >>21115338 her congratulate covid birthday

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:42:31 2022 No.21115381 >>21115324 Mori follows every NijiEN except fulgur

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:42:31 2022 No.21115382 Wow, fucking up so badly that even yab magnet prime Ollie doesn't want to touch it. You don't see that often.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:42:40 2022 No.21115392 >>21115092 Uhhhhh nothingburgerbros?????

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:42:51 2022 No.21115405 >>21115324 mori unfollowed because she used /vt/ as her source of news. then she realized how retarded that was

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:43:05 2022 No.21115420 Breaking containment and spreading unsubstantiated screenshots, this board truly is scum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:43:13 2022 No.21115425 >>21115092 So she just found out about the leak now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:43:42 2022 No.21115459 File: 619 KB, 2048x1538, OldtimeyMiko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21115092 Thanks for the Twitter update! I'm sure scraping the bottom of the barrel for drama is a good use of time!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:44:06 2022 No.21115484 >>21115324 She refollowed once she realized it was an actual nothingburger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:44:47 2022 No.21115511 File: 93 KB, 1103x621, 1648309427894.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21115092 Nice work twittersisters, keep up the good work! Go to Kiara next.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:44:49 2022 No.21115514 >>21115218 you don't sound like mikoposter, but good effort >>21115459 interesting spinoff

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:45:10 2022 No.21115536 >>21115420 breaking contrainkment where?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:45:46 2022 No.21115572 File: 397 KB, 600x959, 1648292293871.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21115338

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:46:00 2022 No.21115586 File: 29 KB, 598x160, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Said thanks in return before deleting too

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:46:12 2022 No.21115595

>NijiJP build their friendship with HoloJP since they're together from the start
>Same goes for their IDs
>NijiEN want to destroy that
Riku should slap the shit out of them. Hachaama and Hoshikawa together in Chilla collab is comfy. Fuck NijiEN tribalists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:46:51 2022 No.21115626 >>21115420 Happy birthday, Fulgur.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:46:54 2022 No.21115627 >>21115586 Fu-chan...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:47:04 2022 No.21115640 >>21115092 No one really likes Fungus

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:47:54 2022 No.21115673 >>21115420 Nah that's all on the redditors. Nothing we say ever truly matters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:48:13 2022 No.21115688 >>21115420 >breaking containment >reddit link

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:49:25 2022 No.21115752 >>21115262 Can you post the screenshot again? I forgot how it went

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:49:51 2022 No.21115775 >>21115595 The fact that Hoshikawa and Hachaama pretty much proves that the rift between the EN branches means nothing to the other branches.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:51:05 2022 No.21115833 >>21115420 >breaking containment >reddit >unsubstantiated screenshots >literally popped up on Petra's POV and anyone who's not blind or delusional can read the text and see it's real Retardchama...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:51:22 2022 No.21115848 >>21115092 Mods, sticky this thread. Let this be a warning to the immigrants that find themselves squatting on the Hololive board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:52:02 2022 No.21115886 >>21115586 Come on Fulgur do it you pussy, getting terminated is just a nothingburger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:54:12 2022 No.21116014 >>21115775 Why would JP give a fuck about how EN interacts. A lot of the JPs knew each other from the NND days anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:54:42 2022 No.21116045 >>21115092 Wasn't all of NijiEN already blacklisted from hololive?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:55:05 2022 No.21116068

>>21115595
Tribal faggotry is bound to happen when the other company blacklists you and keeps shooting down collabs, gets pissy when talent from that other company mention your talents on stream, then turns around and copies your latest gimmick to try and get a piece of the fujo pie. What's in the actual screenshot is tame as hell though. At worst it's people being not so favorable to Cover corporation and being salty at the BS, not the talents themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:55:05 2022 No.21116067 It feels like an all out war right now lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:56:00 2022 No.21116126 >>21115324 Maybe vtubers should refrain from talking shit about other vtubers. Pretty sure that's the problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:56:04 2022 No.21116132 >Sit through thread after thread of Ollie slander as Hololive "fans" scream that they don't want her in their company. >Now they heckle her on Twitter using dead drama that even Kiara called a nothingburger. It's all so tiring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:57:08 2022 No.21116184 >>21116045 >>21116068 NijiEN blacklisted Hololive to appease the chink crowd. Stop rewriting history.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:58:34 2022 No.21116267 >>21116014 When HoloJP closes its doors due to NijiEN's lack of professionalism you better hope Riku does something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:58:41 2022 No.21116272 >>21115092 based manager-san

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:58:55 2022 No.21116286 >>21116045 Other way around retard. The Ollie x Selen collab getting canceled means NijiEn is the one that doesn’t want to touch holos. Niji spent lots of $$$ on ads on them so they don’t want holo to benefit from it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:58:56 2022 No.21116287 >>21115092 What would Calli do if she were in the situation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:59:28 2022 No.21116316 >>21115775 Good. Also thankful that NijiEN don't have any significant presence to influence NijiJP, though I'm afraid NijiID's Mika might start eat wathever shit that came from EN's mouth since she's hanging too much with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:59:28 2022 No.21116315 >>21116184 Selen was trying to play with Ollie in 2021 and she clearly said the Holo management was blocking it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:59:59 2022 No.21116343 >>21115092 Sad that she let's her fans walk all over her like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:00:23 2022 No.21116369 >>21116287 >can't a girl have a little fun?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:00:49 2022 No.21116386 >>21115673 >Nothing we say ever truly matters. 90% of shit said or made on this site gets stolen by Reddit and Twitter. It's always been like this for over a decade and it's only getting worse every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:00:58 2022 No.21116396 >>21116343 They pay her bills so not like she has a choice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:01:38 2022 No.21116425 BASED

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:01:45 2022 No.21116431 File: 1.72 MB, 696x522, 1616007972200.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21115092

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:02:03 2022 No.21116447 >>21116126 But why? Is the vtuber community made of snowflakes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:02:15 2022 No.21116461 >>21116315 Yeah I'm sure the nonexistent source you provided proves that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:02:26 2022 No.21116470 File: 1.89 MB, 1920x1080, 1609564520828.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If only it were Mori saying this to him. She tends not to give a shit what her fans think

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:03:18 2022 No.21116510 >>21116315 >HoloID blocking anything

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:03:27 2022 No.21116516 >>21116447 kill yourself and your facebook group

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:03:56 2022 No.21116546 File: 543 KB, 220x187, laugh-cant-hold-it-in.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For someone that commits yabs left and right Ollie is such a fucking pussy when people put pressure on her

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:03:59 2022 No.21116548 >>21116315 HoloID management is separate from HoloEN management, so even if what you said was true (it isn't) it wouldn't prove shit it's always been NijiEN blocking it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:04:13 2022 No.21116558 >>2111618 So why is JP still collabing? Haachama collabed with a Nijisanji 2 days ago.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:05:14 2022 No.21116618

>>21116447
What a stupid, retarded, childish response. It's called professionalism. Why must your venting involve talking shit about people you're trying to build a relationship with?
And also it's just about being a decent human being of not putting on a happy front in public and then talking shit about that person behind closed doors. It's really not that difficult to understand and this kind of behaviour is frowned upon everywhere, even amongst thieves.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:05:31 2022 No.21116631

>>21116315
>Ollie
>Collab with gundou (NijiJP) just fine
>Collab with NijiID
>Collab with local corpos and indies
>Collab with Holostars
>Collab with ironmouse
>Collab with TT
>Collab with global indies
>the biggest unityfag is somehow can't have a collab with NijiEn
M-chan wouldn't do that.
Post clip, if you can't then this is just a rrat

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:05:38 2022 No.21116638 File: 358 KB, 360x450, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21116558 Did someone say ですわ?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:05:48 2022 No.21116644 >>21116396 And after they bullied the shit out of her for how she looks, so depressing, she should just off herself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:06:03 2022 No.21116659 >>21116548 Also backed up by the fact that HoloID has no problems collabing with NijiID.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:06:27 2022 No.21116684 >>21116461 >>21116510 >>21116548 >>21116631 Ollie just fucking deleted her tweet in this very fucking OP, she didn't do that herself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:06:39 2022 No.21116694 >>21116068 Kiara can mention Pomu freely in members streams but not in public streams meaning the issue is not on the Hololive side of management, but on the Niji side

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:06:41 2022 No.21116699

>>21116510
>>21116548
You anons do know that if the higher ups in Hololive Productions gives orders then no matter the branch they have to follow it, right? HoloID doesn't have freedom to collab with whatever EN tubers they want. JP and ID tubers are allowed though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:07:05 2022 No.21116721 >>21116184 NijiJP has even more prominent chink audience and doesn't even ban collab with Hololive as proven with Hachaama and Hoshikawa lately. NijiEN is just tribalist faggot and appealing to chinks is just a shitty excuse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:07:42 2022 No.21116766 >>21116631 Which EN indie or small corpo did she collab with?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:07:58 2022 No.21116777 >>21116315 its nijien's manager, they dont want any holo to get close to them, rikke types of business, as well as spamming cheap chubbas, ID want something different, rikku didnt like it and id managements got fired

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:08:16 2022 No.21116788 Imagine how much the ID girls will suck the EN Holostars

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:08:30 2022 No.21116796 >>21116684 Its fan pressure, cover is not saying anything to her.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:08:58 2022 No.21116826

>>21116618
>Why must your venting involve talking shit about people you're trying to build a relationship with?
After getting ghosted by them for months, the fuck did you expect? That they'd keep trying to cling onto Hololive forever? It's pretty clear they'd all mentally given up on collabing with Hololive by that point, so of course they're gonna talk about them the same way any stranger would.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:09:28 2022 No.21116852 >>21116684 >she didn't do that herself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:09:33 2022 No.21116857 >>21116796 >fan pressure lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:09:48 2022 No.21116868 >>21116694 >Can't mention Pomu in public streams https://youtu.be/UHIzWHYYobI?t=6629

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:10:29 2022 No.21116902 >>21116826 We're talking about NijiEN, not HoloEN here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:11:07 2022 No.21116934 >>21116694 >Kiara can mention Pomu freely in members streams but not in public streams Give Kiara a chance, her streams are good now!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:11:36 2022 No.21116948 man this whole thread is fucking sad. I'm glad I'm into small corpo stuff now so I can be a unitychad without any problems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:11:50 2022 No.21116963 >>21116618 Not only the vtuber community is made of snowflakes but they also are out of touch with reality

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:11:50 2022 No.21116962 >>21116826 So, any positive relationship is entirely dependent on a successful business transaction in the form of a collaboration? Are you sure you're defending NijiEN here?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:12:01 2022 No.21116972

>>21116699
>the higher ups of HoloPro, a bunch of japanese old men, allow their indonesian branch to collab with NijiJP (the main branch competitors) and NijiID (their direct competitor) but not NijiEN, the competitors of a different branch that completely dwarves them
this is the most retarded theory i've ever read

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:12:16 2022 No.21116988 Imagine if she deleted to make an even bigger BD post with actual effort, drawing, montages etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:13:10 2022 No.21117036 >>21116948 >man this thread sucks, glad I’m not posting in it like you losers

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:13:13 2022 No.21117040 >>21115092 Fungus' opinion seems harsh, but is entitled to it imo. Can we delete the entirety of Western Twitter already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:13:24 2022 No.21117048 >>21116963 You actually have no friends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:13:41 2022 No.21117062 >>21116558 This was meant for this >>21116184 I seriously don't understand this rrat. HololiveEN had zero to do with that China drama. If a group was gonna be affected it would be JP, and it hasn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:14:00 2022 No.21117080 >>21116766 https://youtu.be/GN18SlhXEpE https://youtu.be/d0dxPdSZ5D8 https://youtu.be/EtgqwWIHtYE https://youtu.be/XZj05IVJK_8 https://youtu.be/1bTozeAkD5w https://youtu.be/CMO5l-wccu4 Just to name a few

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:14:25 2022 No.21117095 >>21116796 she was on anya stream and then had to abruptly leave the stream because M chan calling her

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:14:42 2022 No.21117110 >>21115595 We could have kink collab with Ollie and Selen but HoloEN thought they can remain the only relevant company in EN forever and shot it down

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:15:31 2022 No.21117151 >>21116972 What on earth would NijiEN gain from blocking colabs Are holobronies really this delusional that Cover can do no wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:16:20 2022 No.21117194 >>21116868 she always does the Pomeranian/Pomegranade/certain forest fairy thing in public streams instead in member streams she talks about her, without ever changing her name, for minutes on end

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:16:40 2022 No.21117216

>>21116618
I don't know how you people are able to function being this braindead.

Absolutely no one is 'switched on' at all times and being mindful of what they say and who they say it about. Expecting people to always consciously 'professionalise' themselves in the off chance it leaks or reaches the wrong ear is absolutely insane.

Discussing the veracity of Fulgur's claims is one very valid path to pursue, but arguing he should never have said it in private company because a group that has been ignoring them will now ignore them extra hard is just retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:16:52 2022 No.21117223 >>21117095 M-chan punishing naughty Ollie? Oh nyes...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:00 2022 No.21117230 >>21115595 Maybe don't blacklist your rival if you don't want them to be bitter The absolute audacity to bring up the past without mentioning the fact that NijiJP collabed with HoloJP when they were total nobodies

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:05 2022 No.21117231 >>21116796 Schizo's probably broke containment and attacked Ollie for talking to Fungus Amongus. Its probably the same person who made this thread lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:19 2022 No.21117240 >>21117151 Yeah, because management is always rational

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:24 2022 No.21117246 >>21116962 It's the golden rule, anon: treat others the way you want to be treated. HoloEN treats them like strangers, so NijiEN will talk about them like strangers, simple as that. Stop making it needlessly complicated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:27 2022 No.21117252 >>21117151 What on earth would HoloID gain from blocking colabs Are nijiniggers really this delusional that Niji can do no wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:28 2022 No.21117253 >>21117151 >>21116184

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:28 2022 No.21117254 >>21117151 What on earth would HoloID gain from blocking colabs

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:17:51 2022 No.21117277

That leaked chat had blatant tribalfag mentality.
>it feels like an all out war
>luxiem/noctyx earn just as much as their successful JP livers
>Council didn't do as good as they expected then Luxiem became massive
>seems their a little scared
>they were mad about Niji apps again so fast for sure lmao
>hololive tech issues in shambles, niji thriving
Either Niji fans are actual autists or they're trying to cover up the fact that their oshis got caught being tribalfags and numberfags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:18:30 2022 No.21117306 >>21117151 chink audience not to mention, there's plenty of proof in this very thread that it's NijiEN blocking collabs, i've never seen an ounce of proof it's Hololive

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:18:31 2022 No.21117308

>>21116972
They don't want to share their english market and let's face it, the popular HoloID members are basically EN. This is a market they got into first and the limited amount of collabs from HoloEN relative to every other branch should show that they're approaching this market differently. The only other theories are equally retarded and require you to ignore anything that contradicts it. All I'm saying is that the branch with the most freedom (HoloID) has a small amount of EN collabs. You can say NijiEN blocked them, but would EN indies and small corpos do the same? Ollie's not above collabing with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:18:33 2022 No.21117312 Look at these bijibeggars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:19:12 2022 No.21117338 >>21117151 because nijiEN management is chink

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:19:43 2022 No.21117359
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>>21117277
>>luxiem/noctyx earn just as much as their successful JP livers
Could be about either HoloJP or NijiJP, but of course Holobronies are narcissists who assume everything is about them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:19:52 2022 No.21117367 >>21117306 >proof >literally no proof

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:20:08 2022 No.21117379 >>21117277 Fungus thinks he knows what Cover expected from Council, he's an asshole who's been rightfully blacklisted

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:20:16 2022 No.21117389 File: 70 KB, 620x675, 1648311562372.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I am insulting you and your friends. >That offends me. >Heh... Snowflake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:20:22 2022 No.21117394 >>21116132 its no more dead than connor drama anon. The only thing that would kill it is an apology. Otherwise its gonna be like the nipple shit and continue on and on and on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:20:25 2022 No.21117398 >>21116315 >M-chan didn't give permission Moona's friend from NijiEN to call her on b-day stream. I will never believe it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:20:27 2022 No.21117399 Poor LAM family

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:20:57 2022 No.21117427 >>21117359 >luxiem/noctyx earn just as much as their successful JP livers >their

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:21:08 2022 No.21117436 >>21117389 What part of what they said read as an insult to you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:21:22 2022 No.21117449 Until I see NijiEn collab with a holoID or JP then it’s NijiEN blocking it. Otherwise it’s just people still mad Gura, Ame, and Ina never let anyone leech off them other than pikamee(Ina).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:21:34 2022 No.21117460 >>21117359 Do your reading reps

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:21:53 2022 No.21117472 >>21117277 This chat giving a bomb on /vt/ these days .

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:21:56 2022 No.21117475 >>21117080 I'll give you Merryweather and ignore his 1 mil subs but why did you post a bunch of ID and JP vtubers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:22:05 2022 No.21117482 >>21117308 Ollie and Moona collabed with EN indies, EN collabed with VShojo, their actual biggest competitor in the west, VOMS and EN indies like Milky Queen but not NijiEN, despite Kiara pushing hard for it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:22:20 2022 No.21117503 >>21117449 >NijiEN blocking collabs that they tried to arrange Peak retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:22:20 2022 No.21117502 >>21117359 Nijinigger is an esl? Color me surprised.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:22:35 2022 No.21117516 File: 3.47 MB, 2440x7171, 1646512893847.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21117277 > Either Niji fans are actual autists or they're trying to cover up It's both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:22:38 2022 No.21117519 >>21117151 Holokikes know that it's wrong and don't believe it at all yet they repeat it all the time too fool the goyim

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:22:52 2022 No.21117531 >>21117277 >Luxiem became massive massive fucking cope right here lol, from any objective metric no they didn't, this is a case of "these people are my friends/part of my group so i'll view them more favourably"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:23:07 2022 No.21117541 >>21117246 >It's the golden rule, anon: treat others the way you want to be treated. I'm very happy to treat NijiEN vtubers like shit and think the worse of them as they do about others behind closed doors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:23:11 2022 No.21117548 >>21117503 >HoloID blocking collabs that they tried to arrange Peak retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:23:27 2022 No.21117561 Yeah Fulgur didn't do as well as they expected

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:23:47 2022 No.21117581 >>21117503 didn't nijiEN management block a collab within their own branch after it was already scheduled?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:23:51 2022 No.21117585 >>21117561 Feels like an all out war right now lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:24:01 2022 No.21117594 >>21117277 But it's correct? Cover is butthurt about their success and posted their audition on the very same day and it shows they were afraid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:24:31 2022 No.21117626 >>21117594 >afraid of what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:24:38 2022 No.21117633 >>21117531 Their cope is lumping Noctyx with Luxiem to make Noctyx not look like NijiEN's Council

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:24:39 2022 No.21117634 >>21117359 >He lacks critical information

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:24:41 2022 No.21117637

>>21117246
This is the crux of it. Nijis were retarded for trusting others, especially a woman, to not leak discord chats. Everyone here acts like they wouldn't be honest about their feelings in private or anonymously when in reality they would share their thoughts somewhere. Plus even in a vent channel of all places it was a big ol nothinburger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:24:44 2022 No.21117641 >>21117277 Imagine the kind of shit storm that would have occurred if myth were exposed talking shit about ethyria or about how reimu is a failure. God damn this place would go ballistic with accusations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:25:03 2022 No.21117656 >>21117436 Holofags consider anything short of praise as an insult

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:25:09 2022 No.21117668 >>21117151 >Cover can do no wrong This unironically

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:25:49 2022 No.21117706

>>21116315
She didn't. She and Kiara have both used the phrase 'maybe next year' and nothing else.

It's possible that NijiEN have put some kind of block on HoloEN and HoloID (which is just more HoloEN members) because they want NijiEN to create their own audience first and foremost. If they collaborated with HoloEN straight away, they may get a lot of HoloEN viewers that would drop them when the next Gen is released or even when they're streaming.

That's just possible speculation, though. There's no proof of NijiEN blocking and there's no proof of HoloEN trying to strangle them out of the market. All we get is two companies full of people who like each other at a complete standstill while redditors dictate what the Holomgirls can and cannot do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:26:04 2022 No.21117717 >>21117626 Of Vox and the likes mogging EN Remember that a single Mysta karaoke stream mogged a full Myth collab in VR

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:26:10 2022 No.21117724 >>21117516 >india Its nijiens official manager

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:26:26 2022 No.21117736

>Selen asks her manager to collab with Ollie
>They say yes so Selen contacts Ollie
>Ollie asks her manager and they say yes so the collab is arranged
>Cover upper management get a whiff of this, realise that they might lose their EN monopoly and override the ID management banning both EN and ID from collabing with NijiEN
This is by far and away the most logical explanation which you can't refute
If you still believe it's somehow NijiEN despite the fact they've expressed interest in collabing with Hololive then you're a delusional holobrony

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:26:59 2022 No.21117771 >>21117724 Noor...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:27:18 2022 No.21117789 >>21117717 >vox the guy with less than 500k subs? why would they be scared of him? >mysta karaoke >got more than dance practice hmm not sure about that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:28:01 2022 No.21117835 >>21117789 >with less than 500k subs Give it a week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:28:08 2022 No.21117840 >>21117548 It was Selen's collab retard, Ollie was the guest she invited

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:28:21 2022 No.21117850 >>21117736 you said Selen said this explicitly, so please offer proof a timestamp, even a clip will do

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:28:28 2022 No.21117860 >>21117736 >if you don't believe my headcanon you are delusional Actual mental illness. I bet you're one of those people who spams meds too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:28:42 2022 No.21117875 >>21117835 Right right... Do you... Do you perhaps know how many subs Gura has right now? Just y'know wondering if you have that information.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:01 2022 No.21117893 >>21115595 Blame Omega. I hope faggot died or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:06 2022 No.21117897 >>21117789 They are not big but are growing much fast - who knows for how long but it's looking like Vox will even beat kronii

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:29 2022 No.21117910 >>21117835 the man was at 485-489 yesterday. Not even a week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:34 2022 No.21117913 >>21115092 For fuck's sake, congratulating someone who shat on your coworkers? I guess she doesn't love Hololive as much as she claims.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:39 2022 No.21117917 >>21117706 >there's no proof of HoloEN trying to strangle them out of the market. Kek they brought Gura out of a break to stream on a Niji debut day and had her reschedule a collab which coincidentally also was at the same time as a NiniEN debut

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:41 2022 No.21117920 >>21117875 >He doesn't even have 500k subs >Well he will, but do you know how much Gura has? Fastest I've ever seen goalposts moved. I have to admire it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:29:49 2022 No.21117929

>>21117482
I know Moona did a big group collab with all her sisters and that included Iku from Prism, and Ollie has collabed with Merryweather and Vshoujo. All together isn't that still a small amount for a branch that people claim has plenty of freedom?
>Vshoujo
At this point it's just Mouse, and the explanation I've seem is that Vshoujo is Twitch so Hololive can gain those viewers.
>VOMS
Did Pikamee ever get a second collab?
MilkyQueen is fair. I think a mistake people make is they focus solely on the perspective of NijiEN. What about Ollie collabing with Shiki? Or Lumi? Or Nina (the Dutch one)? These are EN vtubers yet they're also not getting collabs from HoloID. It can't be that they're also blocking Hololive.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:30:07 2022 No.21117945

>>21117230
>The absolute audacity to bring up the past without mentioning the fact that NijiJP collabed with HoloJP when they were total nobodies
Fuck off with this shit. The JP still collabing even when they're in corpo now and you want to drag them into this shitty EN shitflinging?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:30:09 2022 No.21117948 >>21117850 Please highlight the part where I say >Selen said this >>21117860 Nice counter-argument holobronybro

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:30:33 2022 No.21117974 >>21115833 I always wondered why everyone game petra a pass for being a mongaloid using screen capture instead of game capture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:30:51 2022 No.21117987 >>21117594 It doesn't matter if they're correct or not. The way they were talking about it like tribalfags and numberfags is inexcusable.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:07 2022 No.21118001

>>21117897
>GROWING SO FAST OMG
>barely beating sana (who has been away for several months without streaming)
Am I witnessing some level of schizophrenia here? What's going on?
>>21117920
>he will
He doesn't lol. Why would cover be scared of a guy who has under 500k subs when they have the vtuber with the most subs on the planet at almost 4million? It's not even remotely comparable.
Can you explain that to me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:17 2022 No.21118012 >>21115092 Can Ollie just graduate already, no one likes her, bitch just causes yab after yab....

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:22 2022 No.21118015 >>21117920 Buddy I don't think you know what that means...

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:22 2022 No.21118016

>>21117359
It's not untrue either way.
Mel, one of hololives oldest talents, still hasn't made over 200k despite having 700k subscribers.
Sora, the oldest talent, has only made a bit over 400k.
Vox alone already has made over 300k and that's in just 3 months. The man has made 100k a month since debut. If he keeps it up he'll be far beyond most of nijiJP and holojp

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:38 2022 No.21118028 >>21117945 Funny how Cover isn't as keen to return the favour on the EN side of things isn't it? Success really reveals people's true colors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:56 2022 No.21118044 >>21118001 And in a day or two when Vox has 500k subs what will you move the goalposts to? Shouldn't be scared of a guy without a million subs? And when he gets that at the end of the year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:00 2022 No.21118048 >>21117641 Yes They're a failure , compare to myth , tell me a female NijiEN can beat Myth . Anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:14 2022 No.21118057 >>21117917 And Nijisanji has streamed over all Hololive debuts. You points?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:39 2022 No.21118074 >>21118001 I didn't know Sana averages 10k viewers (the 2 times she has streamed this year)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:42 2022 No.21118079 >>21117359 Fucking retard If they're talking about NijiJP, they would use "our successful JP livers"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:48 2022 No.21118083 >>21117987 Why shouldn't they? It's their job and it was a vent channel for such sussy discussions Numberfagging is only bad when you bring it on stream constantly

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:53 2022 No.21118086 File: 115 KB, 699x372, Screenshot_20220326-163057~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21115092

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:54 2022 No.21118087 >>21115092 >>21115572 That's actually really petty of Ollie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:33:00 2022 No.21118092 >>21118015 I do. I am extremely sexy and always correct.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:33:24 2022 No.21118111

>>21118044
>cover is scared of vox who doesn't have 500k subs
>BUT WHEN HE DOES COVER SHOULD BE SCARED OF HIM!!!
>why?
>B-BECAUSE!!!!
>But Gura has 4million subs and is a holo talent, why would they be
>OMMMGGG GOAL POST MOVINGGG!!! VOX IS GOING TO BEAT KRONIII IN SUUBBBSSS!! COVER IS DYINGGGGG!!!
Lmao it's actually like talking to a BPD moron.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:33:54 2022 No.21118130 Imagine being low tier nijiEN fag, even Anya beats your number.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:25 2022 No.21118148 >>21118074 >I didn't know Sana averages 10k viewers (the 2 times she has streamed this year) Now THIS is goalpost moving lol!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:27 2022 No.21118152 File: 364 KB, 1180x625, ok.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21117531 What kind of cope is this holy shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:28 2022 No.21118154 >>21118028 What fucking favor? You think everything should be revolved around EN shitflinging? JP livers are still the main talents of both corpo and they have no problem with each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:32 2022 No.21118157 >>21118086 Do people actually make Twitter accounts just to do this kind of shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:33 2022 No.21118158 Isn't niji over hyping one dude potentially surpassing the "flop" gen. It's not like noctyx is doing as well as expected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:40 2022 No.21118165 >>21118111 I'm sorry, I didn't realize pointing out Vox's fast sub growth would upset you so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:41 2022 No.21118166 >>21117929 NTA but if we're talking EN indies, Moona has collabed with Serotina and Yua Asagiri

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:35:01 2022 No.21118185 >>21118087 Same can be said about Fulgur, anon.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:35:02 2022 No.21118188
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The level of entitlement Holobronies think they have never fails to astound me. They unironically think that no one should be allowed to talk badly about their talents in any way, even in private, literally accusing them of thought crime. I remember them trying to pull the same shit on Connor just because he called out Sana as a nepotism hire.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:35:14 2022 No.21118200

>>21118001
>Why would cover be scared of a guy who has under 500k subs when they have the vtuber with the most subs on the planet at almost 4million?
Who almost doesn't stream, rarely talks with chat now, never collabs, never tweets, and has a mental health close to zero. She's gonna break someday and your 4mill will be a nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:35:41 2022 No.21118225 >>21117948 You didn't even put forward an argument retard. You posited your personal headcanon with no substantive evidence. I could just say no and would just be as viable a theory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:36:04 2022 No.21118242 >>21118152 I like that nijiniggers always default to this male prostitute selling himself as a masturbation tool for fujo chink. His "growth" won't last long because he already sold himself to the most fickle market that is fujo AND chink.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:36:31 2022 No.21118273

>>21117974
I genuinely can't comprehend the fact that several corpotubers only use one monitor or a fucking laptop to stream shit. How many yabs could've been avoided if dumbasses had their non-stream shit on their non-streaming monitor? I have three monitors and I only use them to watch anime/vtubers and play trash games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:36:38 2022 No.21118281 >>21115092 This is cause Millie said he has a small dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:36:46 2022 No.21118292 >The top member of Luxiem is barely beating the bottom member of Council Y-Yeah looks like Cover is scared, f-feels like an all out war lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:36:46 2022 No.21118293 >>21118044 Why female in nijiEN so dead to the point that nijifag have to use a male to compare holoEN I feel bad for this company

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:36:56 2022 No.21118305

>>21117308
Most of NijiIDs are two-view shitters and HoloID don't fucking cares if they lose their audience and continuing collabing with them, there's no benefit for HoloID. If anything NijiEn girls are more of an equal collab partner.
>>21117475
What were you expecting?
>>21117929
>Shiki
>Lumi
>Nina
Who?
>EN vtubers
I'm an Indonesian and I don't know them till now, nemu is smaller than all of them.
Oh I know issei kai, does he count as En?
https://youtu.be/QkIshxq978I

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:11 2022 No.21118321 >>21115092 Fulgur is a nigger I hope Ollie doesn't get fire for it though

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:13 2022 No.21118323 >>21118154 How did you miss the point of the post so hard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:15 2022 No.21118325 >>21118152 GO ブチギレ, GO!!!!

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:18 2022 No.21118330
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>>21115092
That NijiEN discord leak destroyed ollie's family roleplay with him lol, i expected that she wouldn't care about the leak at all but judging by this deleted tweet she's either annoyed by the people who keep bringing it up or management told her to stop interacting with him

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:47 2022 No.21118366 >>21118188 >literally accusing them of thought crime This. Everyone can shittalk about anyone they want just do it privately and so they did but female penguin is fuckin retarded so here we are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:48 2022 No.21118368 >>21118242 Just like how Gura sold herself to the pedo market, money is money, keep seething that a male prostitute is mogging your biggest chuuba

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:49 2022 No.21118370

>>21117110
And yet no problem collabing with Vshojo. The problem is NijiEN. How is that not clear? Something clearly has happened between managers. The shittalking yab hasn't helped things. But Vei shittalked holo on stream and we still got vshojo collabs

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:15 2022 No.21118390 >>21118083 Because being a professional is a thing. Your oshis got caught being scummy stop trying to make excuses for them and just admit to it, it's pathetic.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:27 2022 No.21118398

>>21118165
>his fast sub growth
>doesn't come close to myths growth who were getting his numbers before debut
Are you serious right now? Are you huffing your own farts or something?
My own opinion is he's just... boring... Sorry. He's boring and has an ugly voice. He gets barely any views but there's like a concentrated group of chinese OL's who send him large amounts of money on rare occasions so cover should be scared of him?
If he was so popular he'd be approaching myth numbers or even myths level of growth and he isn't anywhere remotely close. Myth would have stomped him into the dust at his point in their release. I mean he's barely comparable to council who niji claim he's shitting on but in reality council take a huge shit on that fat ugly faggots face in terms of subs, watch time, views and streaming time. It's not even comparable.
And we're not even going into the rest of luxiem who are literal 2 views lol!
Women really are hysterical.
>>21118200
>G-GURAS A WASTE!!! SHELL REGRET NOT JOINING NIJI!
Hahahaha! What level of cope even is this?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:28 2022 No.21118399

>>21117641
That's because Holobronies are waaaay more tribal than Nijifags. That's because hololive is the default spawn point for vtuber watches who found people through recommendations. They do brand loyality faggotry harder than any other corpo which is strange because I think Hololive is better than Nijisanji because they actually force their women to pretend to be idols whereas Nijisanji just let them talk about how they like cock. I mean somehwat recently Finana even said she'd consider getting DP'd and having a train run on her. Hololive is better because you can actually live in a fantasy where women aren't hedonist whores whereas Nijisanji seem to be "anime themed streamers" without the idol factor that used to separate the vtubers from regular streamers in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:29 2022 No.21118400 >>21118292 On what metric? Council are getting destroyed by Luxiem in both views and superchats >b-but muh dead subs Nobody fucking cares

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:30 2022 No.21118403 >>21118157 They're the containment breakers

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:36 2022 No.21118408 File: 62 KB, 1280x720, 1442969624301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21118242 I love how holofags instantly cope when proven wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:38 2022 No.21118410 >>21115595 >omegatrany wants to destroy that fixed it for you pegasister, everyone with a brain knows it's holo management blocking collab

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:38:56 2022 No.21118426 >>21118188 >someone shit talks your oshi or her friends >you take offense to that Woaghhhh you cracked the case

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:39:03 2022 No.21118433 >>21115595 NijiEN was a mistake, it's clear

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:39:17 2022 No.21118441 >>21117095 she's back to anya stream now after deleted the stream KEK

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:39:29 2022 No.21118450 >>21118368 >mogging your biggest chuuba Try again he actually beats her superchat total.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:39:43 2022 No.21118457 >>21118398 >h-hes boring We're talking about numbers here sweaty nobody cares about your opinion

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:39:54 2022 No.21118467 >>21118200 And who from NijiEn will pass her 4m subs ? Tell me pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:40:13 2022 No.21118485 >>21118398 >G-GURAS A WASTE!!! SHELL REGRET NOT JOINING NIJI! >Hahahaha! What level of cope even is this? I see you're mentally ill and see something other's don't.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:40:48 2022 No.21118509

>>21118273
Yeah I would have thought they'd invest in that shit because they can definitely afford it. That being said based on the fact she used the wrong capture she seems to be technologically illiterate maybe she hasn't set shit up because she's too retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:40:56 2022 No.21118515 >>21118366 Except it's not private, it was leaked. Which is why vent channels are a stupid idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:40:58 2022 No.21118516 if she doesn't say anything, no one would care. Fulgur doesn't even want to celebrate it. if she keeps it up after posting, nobody would care. this feels like the worst action she could've taken, just encouraging the drama whores.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:41:03 2022 No.21118523

bet all these nijinigger that proud of Vox or Mysta mogging holoEN don't even watch them
they use them because of "nijiEN"
they knew their girls so shit they need to bring out males that 100% has different audience with holoEN

do you even watch today gay asmr?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:41:25 2022 No.21118544 >>21118398 Is there a reason pointing out Vox's sub growth upsets you so much so that you feel the need to write multiple long paragraphs to a sad attempt to "own" me in response?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:41:35 2022 No.21118553 Don't you guys have something better to do? Wasn't there a debut you should be excited for? Spend your time propping up and cheering on the vtubers that are important to you, not tearing down vtubers that you never watch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:41:39 2022 No.21118559 >>21118450 Won't take long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:41:52 2022 No.21118570 File: 54 KB, 620x330, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21115092 OH BEGORRAH TIS ANOTHER MACFULGUR YAB

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:41:54 2022 No.21118572

>>21118457
He is boring sweaty sorry about that. Ugly too lol. I guess the fanbase represents the streamer hahaha!
The entire rest of my post was about numbers that I see you chose to ignore due to your severe BPD.
>>21118485
>claim Gura's going to fall off and get over taken by someone who can't even break 500k subs at the moment
>Gura
>the most popular vtuber on planet earth
Oh my word. The severe mental illness you have is a real burden. Get help okay sweaty?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:04 2022 No.21118579 File: 605 KB, 456x628, 1644567159383.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >holobronies >nijiniggers >holobronies >nijiniggers

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:08 2022 No.21118580 >>21118001 >projecting this hard

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:12 2022 No.21118584

>>21117929
>Hololive is blocking collabs with western streamers
>no they aren't, here's a few examples of collabs between Hololive and western streamers
>i-it doesn't happen frequently and they haven't collabed with literally ALL western streamers, which means Hololive is blocking them!
Hololive can block outside collabs, sure, but it's not out of fear of sharing the EN market, it's because they don't want to be associated with the other party
and unless Cover is chill with main branch and ID/KR Niji management, but not with NijiEN management, the issue is not on their side

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:37 2022 No.21118598 >>21118368 Sold to became #1 vtuber ..... what a deal

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:42 2022 No.21118605 >>21118559 Sure, but until then don't use words you don't understand or where they aren't applicable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:42 2022 No.21118606 >>21118016 Depends on what sort of earning they're talking about SC earnings? Yeah, at this rate he will mog a lot of the holojp But mogging them in overall earnings? Delusional

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:44 2022 No.21118607

>>21118399
Oh I forgot to mention the tribalfaggotry is weird because they are so different so it's apples and oranges plus considering they're actually attempting to be idols they're better vtubers imo so why tribalfag when you can just stick in your own fucking lane and ignore people who throw out baseless criticisms of your oshi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:47 2022 No.21118610 File: 172 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AZKi's Neko song is neat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aINNB2g6cIA

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:42:49 2022 No.21118613

>>21118166
Didn't know about those so we're up to about 7? Although the Yua one seems to be back before NijiEN was even created no?

>>21118305
>What were you expecting?
EN vtubers? My entire point is that not even HoloID is able to collab freely with EN vtubers. Posting ID and JP 2 views actually helps My point, since it shows that they're free to collab with really small people in those markets. If Ollie can collab with a JP male with 1K subs then it's bizzare she hasn't collabed with more popular EN small corpo members

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:09 2022 No.21118633 >>21118398 The same level of cope we were on when we said Rushia was gonna graduate - oh wait she was actually terminated

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:23 2022 No.21118645 >>21118610 comachama...

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:26 2022 No.21118648
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>>21118188
I like Hololive but HoloEN fans and management are fucking retarded. They are like console wars babies. It's just sad to watch and NijiEN doing better month after month is driving them insane.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:28 2022 No.21118652

>>21118544
>growth
Growth would be his current subs which is low tier council.
You're talking about growth projection in which you fantasize about where he could be without evidence or any idea of trends. Ultimately the majority of vtuber growth comes almost immediately after debut. After which growth slows considerably.
Sounds like you don't have much life experience with numbers though huh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:48 2022 No.21118671 >>21118572 Holy seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:50 2022 No.21118672 >>21118398 holy seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:43:55 2022 No.21118676 >>21117581 Shh, don’t tell them this and the facts it’s happened more than once.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:44:16 2022 No.21118682

>>21118467
Probably no one. She's a special case but those 4mills are dead weight and basically just a number that does nothing.
>>21118515
>not private
>leaked
Not even on purpose. Again thanks to one idiot the drama started.
>>21118572
Are all holobronies that retarded? Nothing I said was about Vox surpassing Gura, it's impossible and anyone can see it. But as I said already your 4mills is worth nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:44:34 2022 No.21118702 >>21118671 >>21118672 Holy seethemind

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:44:36 2022 No.21118704 >>21118370 So why would NijiEN collab with Vshoujo, WACTOR and Prism, but block HoloEN?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:44:37 2022 No.21118705

>>21118185
Sure anon, but it's actually really different. The things Fulgur said was behind closed doors, it was a private server in a channel called "Venting" or something, with the description being "everything in here stays in here." It's a place where a person can air their frustrations and unfiltered thoughts so they can leave it out of their life/streams.
Stuff like Mori unfollowing Fulgur and Ollie's shenanigans just paints a bad look on them since they're public interactions. It would've been better if Ollie just left it up since she's on a higher ground. It's just so petty like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:44:51 2022 No.21118721 File: 556 KB, 512x512, 1631262559003.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post gura to make a nijifag mald.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:44:58 2022 No.21118727 >>21118645 The release date of the MV has no effect on how neat the song is, and it sure is very neat

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:29 2022 No.21118750 The only thing Fulgur did wrong was not calling council double niggers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:35 2022 No.21118758 >>21118467 Why do we even compare Gen 1 (Myth) to Gen 4 (Luxiem)? females vs males? 2 years old gen vs 4months old gen. what am i looking at

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:36 2022 No.21118759 >>21118721 Sucks to be you since i watch both

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:39 2022 No.21118762 >>21118727 This is true!

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:42 2022 No.21118767

>>21118633
>pivoting to rushia
What are you talking about sweaty? Are you okay?
>>21118682
>4million subs are worth nothing
Are you serious right now? Hahaha!
>>21118672
>>21118671
>>21118702
holy phone posting lol. Right on the cooldown too. Looks like I've caused some serious cope and seethe in the niji mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:47 2022 No.21118776 >>21118523 Nininipple have to pretend that they enjoy gay shit just to seethe on holos numbers pls undastand

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:51 2022 No.21118780

>>21118652
Careful, you've become so tribalistic that you're now shitting on your own team in an attempt to own the Nijinigger boogeyman. Remember that in this thread you're supposed to pretend Fulgur was wrong to say that Council performed below expectations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:51 2022 No.21118781 Timestamp for selen annoucing collab with ollie cancelation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfIGSTTuauI&t=26327s

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:54 2022 No.21118786 >>21118001 Holy cope...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:58 2022 No.21118791 File: 32 KB, 625x626, 936.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what the fuck is going on in here

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:46:07 2022 No.21118798 >>21118188 They're allowed to talk shit in private but once it gets leaked to the public, it's fair game. Why can't you retards understand such a simple concept?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:46:23 2022 No.21118819 >>21117897 Yeah but Voxx and Kronii aren't competing for the same viewers even. They'd more be looking at it compared to holostars

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:46:35 2022 No.21118831 can someone explain why male vtubers are popular? are they all girl fans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:46:57 2022 No.21118845 >>21118767 The dude who moved the goalpost 7 times already is pretending to be on the higherground when i did so as well Uhh not so sure what we are talking about desu - you seem to have adhd

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:06 2022 No.21118852 >>21115092 It's really a nothingburger, except for a ruined reputation among Hololive fandom, and Holo members avoiding Fungus Covid like actual Covid.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:08 2022 No.21118858

>>21118200
>Almost doesn't stream
3-4 streams a week for the last few months, not including member streams which she's doing more frequently than any other en holo.
>rarely talks with chat now
Simply false.
>never collabs
true.
>never tweets
Based. You should go back.
>mental health close to zero
watch streams and you'd know she's actually really happy with streaming and hololive in general right now, 3rd fes got her really excited.
>She's gonna break someday and your 4mill will be a nothing.
Nijigger cope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:08 2022 No.21118857 >>21118767 >2 seconds apart >cd holy seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:17 2022 No.21118863 Based, finally you did something right Ollie Disgusting snakes like Fungus Covid don't deserve love

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:33 2022 No.21118875 >>21118767 Buddy, you're writing up entire paragraphs in minutes, mass replying and resorting to strawman arguments in all caps in greentext. It's obvious who's the one seething and it's not le evil Nijiniggers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:47 2022 No.21118885 >>21118584 As long as you can admit Hololive is blocking collabs then I couldn't care less about the exact reason behind it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:47:51 2022 No.21118890 >>21118831 >>21118776

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:01 2022 No.21118900 >>21118111 B-but he's debutted literally just 4 months...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:06 2022 No.21118907 >>21118831 Just like K-pop, majority of them are SEAnigs and the females zhangs

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:09 2022 No.21118911 >>21118791 It's essentially coordinated shitposting at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:46 2022 No.21118941 >>21118885 so can any corpo, dumdum and in this case, it's NijiEN

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:50 2022 No.21118945 File: 179 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's been more than 5 minutes, so you should have finished AZKi's neko song. Here's the next one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv7UI1livw4

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:52 2022 No.21118946 >>21118819 I feel like it's super unfair to compare nijisanji EN males who have every right and advertisement in the world with holostars jp who aren't even allowed to pretend they are under the same contract as hololive jp, en and id . . .

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:56 2022 No.21118953 Fulgur literally said the obvious though, even this board recognizes that council was not much of a success.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:49:13 2022 No.21118962

>>21118780
>vox is beating council!!!!
>vox is the biggest en tuber and is making cover so scared!!!
>doesn't have 500k subs yet making him beat 2 council talents out of three and barely at that
>niji's somehow think he's some threat to cover
Do you often fantasize about improbable things sweaty?
>>21118857
What is phone posting lmao. I love how you made teh second first letter lower case to make it seem like two different posters too. Absolute seething femtard mind at work.
>>21118875
>NOOO YOU CANT REPLY TO ME AND SAY IM WRONGGGG!!!
Uh oh. Sounds like someone's having a little tantrum huh? lol!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:49:24 2022 No.21118978 >>21118293 The word manjisanji exists for a reason

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:49:27 2022 No.21118984 >>21118273 I'm pretty sure this is just Petra's side gig

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:49:33 2022 No.21118990 >>21118605 Are you autistic or something? Luxiem is completely raping HoloEN for months now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:49:35 2022 No.21118995 >>21118962 holy seethe

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:49:49 2022 No.21119013

>>21117379
Cover expected them to pull similar numbers as myth during their same time frame.
The fact that Omega has been all but sacked proves Fungus is right.

>>21118242
Money talks, at the very least Vox doesn't stalk and prey on his gachakoi like Rishu does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:50:22 2022 No.21119054 >>21118995 Ah as expected. The femtard mind has switched off completely. Feels good to stomp on weak femtards with facts and logic. lol!

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:50:30 2022 No.21119062
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>>21118457
Let's be real, when hololive releases a HolostarsEN they will do much better than NijiEN males, that's just how it is, you can cope with "b-but they have more superchats" but that just show you the amount of money the female fans and fujoshis in general are willing to pay to get some attention from those males (or get the members to do some homossexual bait for the audience), who cares about money when you can't maintain an audience of 15k-20k people on stream, their audience will always be people who wanna see them flirting with the girls or with each other, take that from them and they are not entertaining for a general public like the NijiJP males like Kuzuha are

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:50:49 2022 No.21119078 >>21118390 >nipplesanji >professional

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:50:52 2022 No.21119083 >>21118523 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:50:56 2022 No.21119085 >>21118682 >4mills is worth nothing Kek Ask someone about Gura -> they know her . The sub tell you how popular you is , anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:51:01 2022 No.21119096 >>21118781 Yeah this points to there being a management level issue between NijiEN and Hololive as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:51:03 2022 No.21119099 >>21118330 Her yabs are probably building up too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:51:15 2022 No.21119112 >>21118953 don't worry, it's fine when they're timelooping endlessely about it, but when someone else is talking about it, they're outraged. Like a bunch of gossipy old women in a remote village.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:51:48 2022 No.21119145

>>21118398
Anon?
He's already more popular than council in terms of money made and he's only about 100 viewers short of the two most popular members.
He's earned about half of what Ina has and she's been around for over a year longer.

Council is pretty far from shitting on him

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:51:50 2022 No.21119148 >>21118652 Ok you idiots are unironically insane. You are trying to turn vtuber sub numbers into science. Hololive has bloated sub numbers compared to live views. This was always true and it's also why they get hit by youtube algorithms so often.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:51:57 2022 No.21119157 >>21118962 You're free to reply to me all you want. I'm also free to point out how silly you sound when you write what is essentially Wojakspeak in a seething attempt to discredit whoever you're replying to, while projecting that anger onto others.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:00 2022 No.21119162 >>21118941 False, and the only reason I say it's false is that the only reasoning I've heard for NijiEN to block collabs requires you to ignore the JP and ID branches entirely and involves digging into LinkedIn profiles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:08 2022 No.21119166 File: 93 KB, 601x508, 2f7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21118767 >says something wrong >people say I'm wrong >W-WOW REALLY HIT A NERVE. CAUSED SOME REAL SEETHE

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:12 2022 No.21119170 >>21118953 fulgur is a 100k shitter riding off the success of his coworker. the fact that he of all people is shitting on ~400k average sub count group is embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:18 2022 No.21119173 >>21118087 >"ah shit, some idiots are trying to use my tweet to start shit with another company, I'll just delete it and send him a DM instead"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:28 2022 No.21119184 >>21118962 holy seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:32 2022 No.21119187 >holy cope >holy seethe >nijinigger >holobrony you people cant have an intelligent conversation to save your lives, fucking savages, you're no better than niggers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:33 2022 No.21119189 >>21119112 >eslchama

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:35 2022 No.21119190 >>21118705 Kys fulgor

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:50 2022 No.21119211 seanigger containment thread? seanigger containment thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:52:51 2022 No.21119212 >>21118721 Mald over what? Most normal people watch both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:05 2022 No.21119223 >>21118962 mate, you're embarrassing yourself here. just leave the thread, learn how to keep a consistent argument and try again when NijiEn have their next fuck up. Yugo's back now, you should've have to wait more than a few days.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:13 2022 No.21119231 >>21119062 This has to be niji falseflag, right? nobody sane thinks homosEN will do better than niji males.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:20 2022 No.21119236 >>21119166 Huh, so I was right about you being a Wojakposter. Average Holobrony indeed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:42 2022 No.21119254 >>21119013 Omega isn’t apart of counci

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:48 2022 No.21119259 >>21119189 That wasn't even ESL?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:53 2022 No.21119267 File: 73 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Inochi time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQx0MtsvSQ

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:54:03 2022 No.21119275

>>21118990
roru
rumao, even
their ceiling is 30k three months after debut, and that's with stuff like offcollabs, milestone streams, ASMR fujobait
Vox is the only one with a sub growth that places him anywhere on Hololive's radar
Holofes tickets sold overseas alone netted Cover more money than all the superchats of Luxiem combined

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:54:32 2022 No.21119302 >>21118953 He said the same thing 90% of holofags here say but when someone else says it that's horrible apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:55:11 2022 No.21119338 Everyone is missing the point that the only one to blame for all of this is petra. What kind of fucking idiot leaks a chat called "#vent: what's said here stays in here

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:55:21 2022 No.21119357

>>21119231
Think so too - like i don't think holostars EN will do bad, but they won't be getting the same $ like Luca and Vox with their Zhang fanbase. They might be able to be like Mysta, who has insane number but not so many superchats in comparision but even that would be hopeful thinking

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:55:55 2022 No.21119393 We've reached the bump limit! Congratulations all!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:04 2022 No.21119404 >>21118293 Luxiem is the first male wave ever. Just like Myth on girl side they will always have the best numbers. Right now NijiEN girls are not really behind Council numbers at all. 3-4k streams are common now when they used to struggle hitting 1k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:06 2022 No.21119408 >this thread What will it take for relations to go back to normal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:06 2022 No.21119407 >>21119338 Patra's ASMR is great though

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:23 2022 No.21119433

>But muh niji male income!
Money is pretty meaningless as a popularity metric since it's so dependent on the type of chuuba/audience. As an example, look at Rushia and Coco's earnings being significantly larger than Pekora's, despite the fact that she completely dominates them in popularity.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:35 2022 No.21119445

>>21118946
Just because stars are poorly run doesn't mean they aren't after the same kind of demos as nijiEN males. The market watching Voxx is a new market and he seems to have cornered it. Who knows what the ceiling is on it. But nothing about his success threatens hololive. If anything it just proves to them this market exists in EN and so they will finally try it (unfortunately)

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:39 2022 No.21119448

>>21118613
Is issei kai not count as EN tuber?
>it's bizzare she hasn't collabed with more popular EN small corpo members
I'm not even aware that en small corpo want to collab with Ollie. I only remember that one blue haired male which I forgot his name. That's not so bizzare after all, HoloID is mainly focused on Indonesia and maybe nearby asian countries. Like fans and like talents we are not that aware of EN scene, I didn't even know that trash taste was so hated on English sphere (here) until too late

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:56:41 2022 No.21119450

>>21119170
Sorry Anon, but Fulgur is actually the best of his Gen. He has highest viewcount and gatekept his chat and stream which is why he has lowest subcount. This doesn't mean shit tho since he's the most entertaining and has now loyal and nice fans

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:57:03 2022 No.21119471 >>21119112 >Like a bunch of gossipy old women in a remote village. ironic. tell that to your NijiEN chuubas

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:57:05 2022 No.21119473 >>21119408 When were they ever normal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:57:17 2022 No.21119481 >>21119189 Holy projection lmao. His English is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:58:08 2022 No.21119532 >>21119404 3-4k is very low for council they're usually in the 5-10k range

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:58:13 2022 No.21119540 >love my chubbas >love my nijis >love my holos >love my indies >fuck dramafaggots >fuck india >fuck philippinos simple as

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:58:13 2022 No.21119538 File: 218 KB, 741x1602, 20220326_125518.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21119275 >bragging about ceiling when only one of your members has a high ceiling and didnt even break 30k once this month holoEN is on gura life support anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:58:53 2022 No.21119594 >>21119275 The fuck are you even saying? You can ignore Vox completely and Luxiem would still be a massive hit. Mysta or Ike beat not only HoloEN they also regularly do better than biggest JP girls.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:59:09 2022 No.21119609

>>21119445
Exactly but it's so sad. They could've easily gotten males to 1M or even higher now if they had the fucking courage to do it. But no just like every japanese company on earth they don't try out shit. Nijisanji just accelerated and found gold - i bet they expected 2-3 views but got huge success instead.
Like noone in luxiem actually sings or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:59:15 2022 No.21119620 >>21119540 most normal take in this thread

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:59:20 2022 No.21119626

>>21119148
Oh there it is. There's the seething goal post moving lmao. Superchats aren't all vtubers earn. Ad revenue comes almost directly from sub counts and viewership. We're not even getting into merch and concert revenue from talents.
The actual popularity of vox (boring and ugly) is less than 500k subs. Beating a vtuber who hasn't streamed almost half the time she's been around after debut and is shit on by the other three members of council in terms of viewers and subs.
Not even remotely getting into how unpopular he is compared to myth who are like leviathans compared to his barely able to beat 500k despite all the money niji pumped into luxiem for marketing lmao.
But hey here comes the goal post moving to super chats now. Can't beat holo in any other field. Certainly not popularity. If a 1 view has her oil sheikh boyfriend donate a million to her stream is she suddenly a threat to cover? No.
So why would vox (boring and ugly voice) be?
I love seeing femtard minds break down like this. How dumb are niji dummies lol?
More popular than council? He's not even more popular than 3 talents alone in council. He's certainly no where remotely as popular as council combined.
What do nijifemtards smoke? Oh yeah shitty vapes lmao.
>>21119145
>SUBS DONT MATTER OMGGGG!!!
Literally the number one metric used to determine popularity on youtube. It's used in almost all algorithms, ad revenue and access along with being the number one thing all youtubers are concerned with.
>make sure to sub and hit the bell
How dumb are niji's really? Are you people stupid? No wonder you're all femtards with BPD!
>>21119157
Uh oh not an argument sweaty.
>>21119166
>>21119184
There's the seethe! Love it. Love seeing femtards break down emotionally and intellectually. Shows just how dumb niji femtards are. Feels good.
>>21119223
Cringe post there "mate" lmao!

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:59:32 2022 No.21119635
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NIJICOPE LIST:
FRAMED IN GOLD
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

CLASSIC
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
NUMBERS
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

IT DOESN'T COUNT
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
MERCH AND SPONSORS
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run
OTHERS
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>Selen delusion here
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:59:49 2022 No.21119649 >>21119408 Let's see... >HoloEN and NijiEN still not collabing Seems like everything stayed the same to me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:04 2022 No.21119660 >>21119408 Will never be normal as long as mod didn't make a new rules about numberfagging, look at this thread. from when from ollie/fulgur into gura/vox number

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:12 2022 No.21119673 >>21119450 honestly, he seem to be following for now the enna route, which is a good thing in a long run.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:16 2022 No.21119675 >>21119450 why do you talk about yourself in 3rd person?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:22 2022 No.21119681

>>21118606
Kinda debatable actually.
Nijisanji gets a pretty good amount of sponsorships, en is no different. While the sponsorships don't seem to be as grandiose as some of the ones hololive seems to get, the frequency happens a lot more.
Nijisanji also sells goods year round with voice packs and acrylic stands being sold no matter the date.
We don't have exact numbers on how well they're selling but we do have the knowledge that his voice packs are some of the best selling on the site and his acrylic stand is the best selling period.

Does he mog them as of this exact moment? Probably not the heavy hitters, no. But is it likely that in the near future he's going to mog them? Yes. If the trend continues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:25 2022 No.21119683 >>21119275 >their ceiling is 30k three months after debut is HoloEn's ceiling that much higher than that these days?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:47 2022 No.21119699

Those nijiniggers that even bring out Luxiem as their ultimate card to compare with HoloEN is just fucking pathetic and probably never tune in to a Vox/Mysta stream.

The latest ASMR stream I tune in for like 2 minute and the only thing I could hear is their moan and licking for like 20 times, and the conversation is nothing but "cum, cum, are you cumming ? I'm wet,I'm cumming". Holy fuck I wanna throw up. And they still have the guts to compare themself to HoloEN

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:55 2022 No.21119706 >>21119357 Hololive got talented people for both myth and council, i think it will be the same for HolostarsEN, and they will surely get myth numbers if the female audience is huge

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:01:13 2022 No.21119731

>>21119231
How so? The Hololive brand recognition alone will carry them. Once they hit the scene, they're all the Youtube algorithm will give you when you look for male vtubers, nijimales included. Whoever ends up in StarsEN is basically guaranteed runaway success.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:01:13 2022 No.21119732 >>21119540 >enjoying vtubers Really? Here? On /vt/? You're doing it wrong. Where's the tribalfaggotry?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:01:15 2022 No.21119733 >>21119538 HoloEN is literally Gura + backstage dancers at this point. And EN3 will be even worse. No good indies want to get into Hololive anymore. It's nothing but drama after drama.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:02:09 2022 No.21119794 Imagine if we all stopped arguing and watched some Miori together?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:02:16 2022 No.21119799 >>21119626 Holy fuck you are malding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:02:37 2022 No.21119820 >>21119706 Anon, i wish i was Fulgur. Like the dude destroyed vox so hard on stream he was depressed for 3 days. Went from super nice demeanor to a stuttering mess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:02:45 2022 No.21119826 >>21119799 Still not an argument sweaty. Seems like I hit a nerve huh? lol!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:03:10 2022 No.21119848 >>21119450 Why would you even join if you don't want to suck all of those females fujos money. so you literally just play game and have a nice "community"? so just like any streamer on twitch?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:03:13 2022 No.21119850 File: 204 KB, 732x732, 1648218355966.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21119733 > No good indies want to get into Hololive anymore. It's nothing but drama after drama. Are u sure about that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:03:21 2022 No.21119855 >>21119626 can you post your hand for us

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:03:37 2022 No.21119870 >>21119626 #1 metric on YouTube is views not subs you complete fucking idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:03:48 2022 No.21119876 >>21116126 There's absolutely nothing wrong with shit-talking people in your industry, where they go wrong by being terminally-online retards is they do it in a way where it's recorded. Go shit talk your industry by venting out on /vt/

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:04:05 2022 No.21119894 >>21119538 >posting a picture that directly disproves your point kek Mori broke 30k and like 9/11 girl broke 15k

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:04:39 2022 No.21119925 >>21119850 Yes NijiEN and Vshojo are way more attractive today.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:05:21 2022 No.21119963

>>21119855
Post your eye color first lol.
>>21119870
>v-views! not subs!
Wrong. If views were all important then every youtuber wouldn't be complaining about the social blade showing people viewing and not being subbed. Most youtubers require both of these things.
Funnily enough subs and views are both what holoEN and council have.
Subs and views aren't what vox has though lmao!
Oh I forgot to write vox (ugly and boring).
I mean he's so fucking boring! I can't believe how ugly he sounds too yuck!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:05:35 2022 No.21119982 >>21119733 >drama after drama What actual drama did HoloID and HoloEN actually get in? Rushia’s shit wasn’t real drama btw

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:05:48 2022 No.21119999

>>21119706
Replied to the wrong guy, meant the other anonw ho posted >>21119675
Like i said - they might get the same viewernumbers but holostars seems to have no chance of getting Zhang money. If everything goes well they might be compareable but on a lower scale - that's all.

>>21119848
Well - Fulgur was a 2view, so he had a ton of reasons to join. One was instant growth which he certainly needed. He literally changed nothing from before, except that he collabs now with more people. That's all.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:06:20 2022 No.21120023

>>21119170
>400k is terrible
The debuted in December
>>21119626
>SUBS DON'T MATTER
Wow that sounds stupid when you put it like that, good thing that's not what a single person you're arguing with has said. Are you the person in /#/ who always uses this fucking tactic? Pathetic. Your smugness of your tribe having more subs and sponsorships on their 2 year old branch than the 3 month old wave is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:06:28 2022 No.21120030 >>21119876 Hell, friends shittalk each other all the fucking time. Nijis shittalk each other like every collab. This is completely normal behavior. But I guess Cover fags are used to stage play tier scripted interactions.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:06:29 2022 No.21120032

>>21119731
Hololive and niji, especially niji males, attract two different audiences. Just look at homosJP compared to nijiJP males - homos get destroyed. Add to this the fact that nijiEN males are massively boosted by chinks, who won't ever go near hololive, and homosEN don't stand a chance.
They'll get a lot of dead subs quickly as reddit virtue signals over them for a while, then they'll probably end up with a significantly smaller regular viewership than council when the band wagoners fuck off to something else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:07:00 2022 No.21120054 >>21119850 Fallenshadow already turned them down, and they probably can't get Moonjelly either. If Lumi stays indie that's another prospect gone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:07:15 2022 No.21120066 >>21120023 It's literally what the person I replied to said. Sorry sweaty. Oh I am also not reading all that come back another time lmao!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:07:26 2022 No.21120081 >>21118962 Now I'm persuaded that the longer your reply is, the seethier you are...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:07:36 2022 No.21120093 >>21120032 Not trying to be mean but even reddit doesn't care about homos

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:08:04 2022 No.21120110 >>21115405 That was very weird. Yeah, it looked as if Mori is constantly on /VT/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:08:15 2022 No.21120119 >>21120054 >Fallenshadow already turned them down proof?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:08:27 2022 No.21120136 >>21120081 Uh oh, another none argument mixed with incredible femtard seethe because I btfo you out for thinking vox (ugly and boring) is as popular as council lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:08:33 2022 No.21120145 >>21120054 To be fair, I'd like to see small 2 views or even non-vtuber streamer in the new gen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:09:17 2022 No.21120172 >>21120119 Ask her general, they were buzzing about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:09:28 2022 No.21120180 >>21120054 >turn down Are you trying to imply she was scouted anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:09:28 2022 No.21120179 >>21120145 Ame was literally a 2 view twitch streamer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:10:24 2022 No.21120236 Do people that like niji really want ollie to interact with them anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:10:34 2022 No.21120247 >>21119635 How much seethe do you need to be able to produce this...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:10:43 2022 No.21120257 >>21120145 Every single one of Noctyx was a 2view. Luxiem was a mix of 2 and 3 view. I swear if Cover still does nepotism hires or other shit they will end up with council 2.0 again

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:11:06 2022 No.21120275 >>21120180 Not necessarily. She could've applied for EN gen 2 and even if they didn't select her they could've kept her info to approach her for a later gen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:11:10 2022 No.21120281 >>21120030 Except it's different because they shit talked their rivals in private while being all friendly with them on the outside. But I guess that's normal to you if you're snakes like them too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:11:35 2022 No.21120295 >>21120172 >fallen shadow >suicidal friend of fauna who felt betrayed fauna got into hololive and she didn't >only popular because of fauna >believing anything she says

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:11:50 2022 No.21120307

>21120066
>1 paragraph
>>21119850
Don't know where this guy is getting this kek but among the two views I've seen they seemed more interested in NijiEN. The Dutch Nina and marimari_en expressed interest. Those are just the ones I watch and hololive is still flooded with auditions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:12:29 2022 No.21120342 Every rep in this thread proof that NijiEn Female is a failure . Even Niji will release more and more EN Female in the future , they just will be a failure .

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:13:54 2022 No.21120403

>>21120342
Not a single nijisanji en female is a failure anon, numbas have rotted your brain.
I get it tho. If you are male you wanna be in nijisanji, if you are female you wanna be in hololive. If you really wanna be part of a big corpo you just accept nijisanji even as a female if you have to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:14:33 2022 No.21120429 >>21120295 holy cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:14:42 2022 No.21120440 >implying most 2views did not send their auditions to both niji and holo and will go with whichever works out

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:14:54 2022 No.21120456

>>21119626
Subs matter. Sure but honestly they're not the end all be all.
If they were PewDiePie wouldn't be ranked #104 in terms of superchats. Instead he's mogged by anime characters.
But even in terms of vtubers, gura is undeniably the biggest vtuber, but Kiara and Mori both make more than she does in terms of superchats despite having half or less of the subscriber count

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:14:57 2022 No.21120460 >>21120307 I must've somehow missed the Nina stream where she expressed interest in joining NijiEN, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:15:22 2022 No.21120477 >21120295 >only popular because of Fauna (You). You are right in the rest of the post though. >>21120342 >realize he's losing the argument >>21120066 >runs away to make bait post instead ok

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:16:55 2022 No.21120545
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>>21120456
Are you seriously suggesting that pewdiepie earns less than the highest super chat earners on youtube?
You can't seriously be suggesting that? Are you dumb?
>>21120477
Not me sweaty. Get BTFO lmao. Also maybe stop seething so much and format your post correctly. Dumb femtard lmao!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:16:57 2022 No.21120549 >>21120440 The desperate ones sure. All actually popular indies no longer care about HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:17:06 2022 No.21120557 File: 364 KB, 563x543, 9e6495-06430956439873489.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the fate of NijiEN heavily lies on Vox's cock Damn nijiniggerbros I actually kinda feel sorry for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:17:48 2022 No.21120597 >>21120440 This is exactly what happened, everyone is a reject from both company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:18:06 2022 No.21120605 >>21120275 I doubt she got in at all

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:18:27 2022 No.21120624

>>21120023
who are you talking about? i'm talking about the average subcount of council, which is about 400k only because of sana. kronii has 700k and the fact that fulgur the waterboy of all people is shittalking is embarrassing. it's as if holostars would be trying to shit on nijiJP just because holoJP has a higher sub count.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:19:08 2022 No.21120650 >>21120549 >All actually popular indies no longer care about HoloEN. >Unprovable statement of an absolute that he can't possibly know. Retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:19:34 2022 No.21120676 ITT: Schizos

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:19:56 2022 No.21120697 >>21120650 If you actually followed people outside holo bubble you would know. It's nothing secret.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:20:26 2022 No.21120728 >>21120545 He actually does. In terms of superchats he's ranked below the top 100. In terms of total revenue he's earned through live streaming on YouTube he's less successful than a good number of vtubers with only 400k earned through live streaming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:21:51 2022 No.21120797 >>21120697 Every single holo thinks you're retarded. Source: watch streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:21:51 2022 No.21120799 >>21120557 Nijisisters like gay that much ? ..... oh shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:22:06 2022 No.21120814 >>21119731 They're not getting the Hololive brand recognition though.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:22:43 2022 No.21120843

>>21120032
>Just look at homosJP compared to nijiJP males
That's JP, an entirely different kind of demographic compared to the west. Their scene has had time to mature and find some kind of an equilibrium. The nijiJP males are only bigger because Nijisanji itself was, for a long time, bigger over there.

The west loves to sleep on niches, even shit on them, until a major player comes along, "innovates" and makes them acceptable and cool. Nijisanji doesn't have that kind of social capital here; like you said, the NijiEN males are big mainly thanks to a large female chink audience. Hololive has a massive presence in the western vtubing scene even with the chinks dodging them. Thanks to their branding, StarsEN could easily not only steal the nijimales' meager western viewers and momentum, but also build a sizeable western following out of virtual nothing - an untapped audience that refuses to respond to anyone but the biggest brand in the field. Dead reddit subs still count towards the algorithm that ultimately feeds the top dog and leaves little for the rest. NijiEN's first mover advantage will give way over time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:22:57 2022 No.21120857 >>21120797 Source : it came to me in a vision

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:23:10 2022 No.21120873 Fanbases are cancer. Kill everyone.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:23:15 2022 No.21120879

>>21120728
Do... Do you understand what you're saying? Mr Beast doesn't get super chats either. Do you think he magics the money for his videos out of thin air? Are you stupid? Superchats are a way to earn money at the low end of viewer counts. But when you reach millions of subs and high viewership ad revenue fat exceeds anything that superchats will give. This is why comparing vox for superchat donations as some sort of way he's shitting on EN is dumb because high sub counts earn huge amounts of ad revenue on youtube.
Listen sweaty some advice. Get some life experience before talking about things you don't know. Okay? Do yourself that favor. That way people won't think you're dummy dumb dumb when you open your mouth. There's a good girl.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:25:47 2022 No.21120997

>>21119681
....the initial point is luxiem/noctyx earns as much as/more than holojp no?
I might missed it but has luxiem get a lot sponsorships?
Top tier holojp literally get thrown sponsorships after sponsorships
Top tier holojp can earn around 1M USD from merch sales, you can look up the number from /#/archives
If you are expecting some shitty basic merch like acrylic stand can get around 1M USD then you should really wake up
There's also the ticket sales from the concerts
>But is it likely that in the near future he's going to mog them? Yes. If the trend continues.
>He's going to mog top tier holojp in overall earnings
>in the near future
Kek imagine being this delusional.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:25:52 2022 No.21121003 Test

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:26:08 2022 No.21121021 Believe it if it makes you happier anon... My oshi is still thriving af so I'm just feeling pitiful for those who can't accept the truth

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:26:19 2022 No.21121028 File: 23 KB, 587x246, 1645421740291.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that Mumei is literally following Pomu "This means war" Rainpuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:26:26 2022 No.21121038 >>21120549 takes a look at popular indies >SEX SEX CUM HAHA >POG SUSSY SUS POG >YOUR OSHI INCLUDING ME IS GETTING FUCKED BY HER BF BTW >shitty Twitch drama #8127291 And nothing of value was lost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:28:09 2022 No.21121130 >>21121028 she forgor, pls understand

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:28:23 2022 No.21121139 >>21120172 She is literally insane though.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:28:46 2022 No.21121159
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Why didnt NijiEN ever just apologize so this could be water under the bridge?
>b-but they were right!
Fuck off retard thats not for them or you to decide and besides, they are representing a company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:28:54 2022 No.21121163 >>21119731 >Holostars >guaranteed runaway success You really don't know anything huh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:29:26 2022 No.21121187 >>21121028 That can be fixed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:29:33 2022 No.21121193 >>21121038 The state of tribalfags. My tribal is best and everyone else are whores.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:29:36 2022 No.21121196 >>21120728 >Pewdiepie less successful Kek .... why nijisisters like this ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:30:35 2022 No.21121241 >>21121159 >Why didnt NijiEN ever just apologize so this could be water under the bridge? For what? A private conversation? Why would they bring more attention to something only /vt/ spreads?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:31:20 2022 No.21121274 >>21121159 This, why didn't they get down on their knees and beg for forgiveness from a group that hasn't really done much for them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:31:37 2022 No.21121293 File: 90 KB, 900x900, fulgurcovid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21121241 >For what? A private conversation? Why would they bring more attention to something only /vt/ spreads?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:31:55 2022 No.21121307

>>21120879
Man you're not only incapable of reading but you're a cringe roleplayer too. You're malding so hard that your inner incel is leaking out, take a deep breath.
You haven't really debunked anything I've said. Subs ≠ views ≠ revenue.
Subs are a decent way to measure your channel's popularity but in terms of superchats and overall earnings, they don't seem to matter that much.
>>21121196
If either of you were actually capable of reading you'd realize I'm talking about superchat revenue and how subs don't necessarily indicate you're making more.
This can be seen in the top 200 list pretty frequently with people who have 4 million subs earning less than people who have 1 million and people who have over 1 million subs.
So sorry to burst the bubble but subscribers don't mean shit when none of them watch your streams

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:33:17 2022 No.21121367 >>21121159 Reddit and twitter : it's not even a war /vt/ : WAR TIME BOY

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:34:01 2022 No.21121396

>>21121307
No I read your posts and you're wrong. You're also... sorry to say this sweaty... a bit stupid. Mmm so sad. So bad. Lmao!
Meanwhile in the real world people would call you a stupid dumb bitch for thinking that Pewdiepie or Mr Beast is earning less than Sana because he's not getting as many super chats.
Every can see how stupid you are for believing that. I'm sorry vox (boring and UGLY voice. Fuck so ugly) is a failure. I know it must suck for you... But try to be a grown up okay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:35:58 2022 No.21121489 >>21121159 The issue wasn't as big as people expect it to be. The mental gymnastics and damage control that Nijifags had to go through was too good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:37:23 2022 No.21121564 File: 7 KB, 203x173, seething_SEA_nijinigger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21121307 >wall of text are you one of those trannies spamming 'M'lord' on Vox's channel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:37:39 2022 No.21121574 >>21120549 Anon, if you take a look at most holos, it can be seen holo is not really looking for candidates with popular PL They are looking for candidates with some qualities that will make them stand out

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:37:59 2022 No.21121593 Azkibro where's the next song...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:39:10 2022 No.21121653 File: 7 KB, 226x223, Rumbling.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21121159 >Why didnt NijiEN ever just apologize so this could be water under the bridge? It's a declaration of all-out war from them

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:39:35 2022 No.21121676 >>21121396 You do realize that the other anon was comparing superchat revenue and only claimed that Mr. Beast and Pewdiepie earned less overall from livestreaming only.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:40:57 2022 No.21121730 File: 197 KB, 753x729, 1647969342657.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21121653 wy is poum at nopplesanij if she don't hav niples

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:41:11 2022 No.21121743 >pewdiepie >mr.beast what the fuck are you retards arguing about now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:41:29 2022 No.21121756 This thread reeks of nipple twisting and woman malding

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:42:09 2022 No.21121796 >>21121743 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:43:29 2022 No.21121850 >>21121743 Holocope is one hell of a drug.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:44:39 2022 No.21121903 >>21121574 >candidates with some qualities that will make them stand out You sound like an intern

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:45:32 2022 No.21121944 >>21121756 It's mostly that sweaty lol lmao hahaha guy

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:45:39 2022 No.21121945

>>21121307
It's because he doesn't want SC from the start you dumbass, people used to SC him regularly then he said "All of SC goes to donation" then the number of SC keep dropping. Also pretty retarded of you to compare Pewdiepie with vtuber when their community clearly have different culture between them, then said "he's mogged by anime character"

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:45:51 2022 No.21121956

>>21121676
Oh here comes the goal post moving again.
Niji's claim vox is so popular and earning so much it's made cover scared.
He isn't more popular see subs.
He isn't earning more of anything except superchats which as illustrated by my Pewdiepie vs Sana analogy, is that superchats aren't that important vs subs and viewership, all of which vox loses substantially to even council. We're not even touching myth who are so big luxiem might as well be actual 2 views in comparison to them.
Measuring financial success on superchats is dumb but it's the only metric vox (ugly... dumb... boring) femtards have so they go through mental gymnastics to make it more important than it is. In reality vox has gone through his peak initial growth and is now declining as all vtubers do.
He had his chance and was a failure. Like all of luxiem.
But hey if a 2 view gets a 1 mil donation from an oil sheikh I guess that means cover are scared! Oh wait no it doesn't because it isn't a metric that means anything for cover as a financially concerned company. Hence why Rushia wasn't too big to fail and why they let Coco leave.
Continue to seethe at me claiming to be new or other posters it makes me feel good femtard lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:46:35 2022 No.21122001 >>21121944 see >>21121956

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:47:33 2022 No.21122059 >>21121903 Nah I'm Suisei's manager according to a seething 2views

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:47:40 2022 No.21122068 >>21122001 >t. woman malding nipple twisting nijitard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:48:57 2022 No.21122134 >>21121756 >>21122068 samefag roru

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:49:21 2022 No.21122155

>>21121743
Revenue or sth like that. These dumbass don't realize that after Coco graduation and her income break down, SCs has always been known as spare money. That Jun fag from JP open his SC for one day and shot up to be the third most SC person in the world, one 3d live from Niji and Holo sell half a millions dollar in merch( which have much better cut than SCs).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:49:54 2022 No.21122184 File: 6 KB, 322x98, 1645555578782.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21122134 Absolutely MALDING lmao!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:52:31 2022 No.21122320 >>21118086 >tfw anonymous revealed himself to protect hololive THE HERO WE NEED

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:53:39 2022 No.21122366 >>21122184 oh i'm sorry for being wrong, must have been because of the fact that all holobronies type the same way, as if these words are all they know

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:54:35 2022 No.21122414 >>21122366 >oh i'm sorry for being wrong, Hahahaha! Absolutely btfo and still malding. Love it. Love to see femtard nijinipples absolutely in seething agony at how vox (boring and ugly) is a total failure compared to council. Mmm feels good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:56:07 2022 No.21122491 >>21122414 >not denying what i said so it's true then

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:56:17 2022 No.21122502 >>21122155 >her income break down spoonfeed me on that pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:56:53 2022 No.21122542 Anyway, who got btfo?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:56:57 2022 No.21122548

>>21121396
>>21121956
I doubt anybody here is the diehard Vox fan you're claiming they are. We just find your retarded cope annoying enough to reply to. I actually agree with your post here about superchats not being the be all end all and don't follow what the other anon was saying. Once again, like my last post you didn't have the reading comprehension necessary to respond to, Luxiem debuted 3 months ago. Of course they don't have the same sponsorship and merch opportunities as Myth. I just don't understand what your argument here is for them being a failure is. The top 2 of them mog 4/5s of council and 3/5s of myth in average ccv and VOD views. How is that a failure?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:58:07 2022 No.21122606 >>21122548 schizo throwing a fit pls undastan

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:00:05 2022 No.21122707

>>21122491
True that you were wrong and are sorry for it? Yeah it's true. Lmao!
>i'm sorry for being wrong
Pffthaha!
>>21122548
>I'm not a vox fan honest!!!
Do you really think I believe you?
>They only debuted 3 months ago!!!
Uh I think you mean 4 months ago and they don't come close to matching Myths growth. You understand Myth shit on current Luxiem before they even debuted? Are you new here or something and don't remember how many subs they got before anyone knew anything about them?
Stop lying to yourself. Vox isn't comparable to anyone in council save Sana who hasn't streamed in months.
Super chat earnings aren't an indication of actual vtuber revenue.
Subs are a measure of popularity and he's only slightly more popular than Sana.
Where else would you like me to BTFO you next sweatie?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:01:54 2022 No.21122808 >>21120281 Aside from pomu x kiara there nothing "friendly" goin between them on public

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:02:35 2022 No.21122841 >>21116315 Feel free to share where she "clearly said" such a thing. The only thing anyone knows is it got canceled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:05:13 2022 No.21122950 >>21119338 its actually the fag mystake, he messaged during a collab and petra got pinged, hence the yab happened

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:05:24 2022 No.21122964 >>21122808 Most of Council follow multiple Niji ENs, Mori, Kiara, Ollie ect interact with them. Ame liked a piece of Selen fanart a day or two ago. Are they super close? No. But most of them don't actively avoid Niji EN and will casually interact.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:05:46 2022 No.21122987

>>21121159
Why would they apologize and make things bigger instead of just ignore and this be treated as a minor rrat some people will think is fake?

Considering nothing happened and only a few twitter spergs talk about it
ignoring it worked out perfectly for them

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:09:06 2022 No.21123154

>>21122964
>casually interact.
No.
literally only pomu and kiara
rare cases Ollie cause shes a bitch
and that one Time Elira and the weird Xbox controller exchange
The rest never reply to each other, following means nothing until they unfollow and became a OHMAGAWD MORI UNFOLLOWED VOX situation

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:11:48 2022 No.21123300

>>21122707
No, he means 3.
Myth also existed in a bubble and that growth is almost completely dead with most of them not getting the same amount of views or superchats they did back then
Vox is literally more successful in terms of views and money than most of council and some of myth.
Subs don't mean shit if nobody watches after subscribing.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:16:11 2022 No.21123527

>>21123300
>december was 3 months ago
Hmmm nope lmao!
>he
Oh no no no. Femtards literally losing it right now hahaha!
>It's a bubble! Growth is dead!!!
>mori hitting 2 million
>gura inclining to 4 million
>kiara 1.34 million
>ina at 1.38
I can't imagine the levels of cope and vox (ugly... boring... UGLY lmao) fart huffing you have to be on to think this. Just amazing.
>vox more successful in terms of views and money than myth
Nope. Definitely not views. And only in superchats which as I've demonstrated over and over again for you stupid femtards, superchats aren't even close to being the primary source of income for vtubers and vtuber companies. Even Coco explained that when she left.
Would you like to try again little seething malding femtard?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:19:51 2022 No.21123721

>>21122502
Well there's nothing much. Back in the day tribal fag usually use SC as the measurement of income for Holo. In the time before granulation, Coco at that time is the most SC person by a large margin pretty much said that her SC is only 30% of her income. Which explained their switching attitude from encourage audience to donate in Streamlab for a better cut in the early days to ignoring it for audience to donate in SCs. Basically saying it doesn't matter much with them anymore now that they have sponsorship and merch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:26:54 2022 No.21124070 >>21121159 Why are we rewriting the narrative as if NijiEN wasn't blacklisted even long before Fatgore's retarded post? Like for fucks sake, they collabed with Vshojo over NijiEN. If that isn't a show of spite I don't know what is.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:27:46 2022 No.21124111

>>21123527
December was 3 months ago? We're only in March. And it was mid December that he debuted. Specifically the 19th. Which makes it just a little over 3 months.
I'm a dude and yeah that growth is pretty subpar to what they got initially. Even Kiara's made comments about how viewers just don't show up as often anymore. https://youtu.be/M2cOyrCMfhA

>Superchats aren't the primary income!!!!!!!!!
You keep saying this but like it's the easiest way to measure success when we dont have exact numbers on merch sales and neither council or luxiem have had sponsored streams yet.
That being said with vox gaining 4-5k a day and being out for only 3 months. It's pretty likely he'll overtake council within a few days.
I know you're like an incel and everything my guy but face it, you can't beat the cock.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:27:47 2022 No.21124115 >>21123527 You're coping anon. Vox was a hit, and I'm not even a Nijifag. But retards should've expected this because Nijisanji was always a male orientated company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:30:11 2022 No.21124227 >>21123300 You compare Myth to Vox first 3 month right ? Oh no nijisister , you don't know how huge superchat and view Myth got in their first 3 months . It's their golden time .

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:30:15 2022 No.21124232 >>21124111 NTA and not in your argument but >kami clips KYS

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:30:45 2022 No.21124254

>>21123721
Which is fair for JP but I don't think en gets sponsorships all that often. I looked through the archives and could only find a priconne sponsorship and guras taco bell sponsorship.
I might have missed it but it seems like NijiEn gets more sponsorships seeing as they got to do priconne this year as well as a fair number of other things they were sponsored for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:31:15 2022 No.21124279 >>21124111 Not that anon but councils have sponsors and we literally have their merch numbers datamined. Check the archives.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:32:32 2022 No.21124327

>>21124111
>viewers leaving
Hahahaha! All vtubers get huge intial growth then it drops off. Same for vox who had big intial growth and is now dropping off in subs. Failing. Flailing. Dumb. Boring lmao. Ugly.
>you keep saying this but like
No. It's a fact. Nijidumb lmao.
>it's the best way to measure success
No it's not even remotely the best way to measure success. No one would say Pewdiepie or Mr Beast is unsuccessful despite getting no superchats or low superchats are you stupid?
>vox will overtake all of council guys s-seriously!!!!!
He hasn't though. Mmm so sad. So bad sweatie femcel. So saaaaddd. I tell you what big girl when he does why don't you come back then huh? How about that honey bun? Aww there's a good dumb dumb girl lol.
>HELL BE BIGGER THAN GURA IN A FEW DAYS GUYS!!!!!
Pffthahahaha!

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