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20970047 No.20970047 [Reply] [Original]

I don't understand what is so special about her singing. Even in Hololive, there are way better singer than Suisei.
I genuinely wanna know this

>> No.20970131
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Suisex

>> No.20970155
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truly a head scratcher
nice thread

>> No.20970394

>>20970047
voice >>>> singing technique. Nobody in hololive has a prettier voice than suisei when singing. Her voice is so good that it masks her technique

>> No.20970613

>>20970047
Here's how I do it, I listen to her singing and I make a decision if i like it or not.

>> No.20970643

>>20970047
she is like the only one who tries to be a REAL idol. while rest are comedians

>> No.20970757

Why did people like KSI's music before he became at least decent?
I've said this before an I will always say it, suisei is the ksi of hololive, but she's already reached her fullest potential so there's no room for any more improvement unless she starts making songs in English which is impossible for her

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>>20970155
Mikoposter is the hero we deserve

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>>20970047
https://twitter.com/boko_kama_/status/1396436486824751106
This guy put Suisei's voice through audio spectrum analysis. 1/f noise has spectral density that can be described with S(f)=k/f^a, where "k" is a constant, "f" is frequency and "a" is the exponent of the frequency. When a=1, it's considered the canonical case of pink noise, although it's generally considered a 1/f fluctuation for 0.9<a<1.1. The analysis found that Suisei's voice averages a=1.004 across multiple songs.
1/f patterns are found all throughout the natural world, in the human heartbeat, the nucleus of an atom, even the aging of C. elegans. Some people theorise that certain pieces of music are enjoyable because they emulate patterns that exist in nature, even if the listeners don't consciously know it. Essentially, Suisei's voice is exceptionally close to imitating this fluctuation, which could be a reason why we enjoy her music so much. Or if you want to phrase it in a cooler way, Suisei's voice is mathematically perfect.

>> No.20971244

>>20970047
Because she spam songs, just like Mori. Retarded people (majority of humankind) unironically believe Mori is one of the best singers in Hololive because her songs are everywhere.

>> No.20971287

>>20970047
Watch; next he will say Moona is a good singer.

>> No.20971338

>>20970394
she has technique and there's holos with better voices and worse technique

>> No.20971362

>>20971152
>some people like certain pieces of music

there, shortened

>> No.20971459

"Power" is what appeals to masses. It's like the deep voice meme. See Moona, Risu holofes performance

>> No.20971487

Enna poster incoming

>> No.20971490

>>20970047
When Suisei first came on in fes3, the opening of Stellar Stellar just hurt my ears.
Not the best first impression for her singing.

>> No.20971495

>>20971362
That's not what that anon was saying at all.

>> No.20971536

>>20970047
I think she is good but compared to some Vtuber singers, I think she pales

>> No.20971582

Her songs are great. Her album is great. Her and Moona make legit great music

>> No.20971585
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>>20971152
I KNEEL

>> No.20971588
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https://streamable.com/22yfm6
https://streamable.com/frs7jv

>> No.20971646

>>20971536
like who anon?
I need names

>> No.20971650

Also let's be real, no other Holo could've pulled this shit off. https://youtu.be/TsRo8VuubSk

>> No.20971703

>>20971646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4GBW9GvfCY
Hachi is pretty good.

>> No.20971706
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>>20970047
https://youtu.be/1WNKLqBAZdo?t=4124 [Embed] [Embed]
Context: Talking about the setlist. Here, she starts talking about Stellar Stellar
> And then, after that... <sings the intro to Nyellar Nyellar>
> HERE IT COMES!!!!
> It's my fault that, whenever people listen to the original after hearing my cover first, they get shocked and be like "W-WHAT? THIS SONG IS ACTUALLY GENUINELY THIS AMAZING???!!!"
> It was so cool! Nye!
> Really, when Suisei entered the stage, the atmosphere transformed, and it felt like the world was blue,
> like being engulfed in a world of blue.
> It felt like that. NYE!
> The live band was great too. Nye.
> <laugh>
> She really is Holo JP's songstress. Mmm.
> And then after that, right? <laugh> After that, you guys didn't expect another Suichan original song to be performed next, right? <laugh> "WAAAHHH!" like that!
> I bet you were all like, "SUICHAN WAS AMAZING!!!!" and then [when the next song came], "G-GHOST??!!! EEAAAGGHH! SUICHAN AND TOWA-SAMA?! WWAAAHHHH!" everyone reacted like that, right? <laugh>
> With this, day 1 was a smashing success! <laugh> It was amazing. It was really amazing.
> Towa-soma was so cool, right! Those two are a powerful combination. Nyee!

>> No.20971727

>>20971646
https://youtu.be/HSNi43PZg-Q

>> No.20971743

>>20971487
>>20971727
lel

>> No.20971758

>>20971152
musicfags are the biggest retards in the world I swear to god
they have to pretend there is science behind people liking songs and sounds

>> No.20971783

It’s literally just her charisma, she’s not that great of a singer but she has a cultish like way of making you want to be a follower

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>>20971650
SEX

>> No.20971815

>>20971727
Welcome anon, I was waiting for you

>> No.20971832

>>20970047
She has one eye in a land where everyone's blind

>> No.20971835

>>20971646
Hachi https://youtu.be/a117kgda0sw
VESPERBELL: https://youtu.be/iLdKXO2YV9c
Aitsuki Nakuru: https://youtu.be/Nv1dsznzMKw

Just a few off the top of my head. Head to the Vsinger thread for more.

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>>20971650

>> No.20971870

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybpvcZXvb1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8PUUv4LFkQ

>> No.20971887

>>20970047
>>20971338
Name the ones you think that are better.

>> No.20971949

>>20970047
For me it's because she is extremely confident. Most of the time a confident singer is a good singer and she is not afraid of shilling her music to high heaven because she believe she is the best
I personally respect her for that

>> No.20971957

>>20970047
her voice is unique and has emotion

>> No.20971987
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She's not the most skilled
She's not the most talented
She's not very good at dancing
And yet she's still the best

>> No.20971988

>>20970047
This girl, a trained singer, did a reaction to all hololive covers of King without knowing anything about them.
She ranked Suisei as the best voice, and even wondered if she wasn't just too good for being just a streamer.
https://youtu.be/4jcEftZKM8E?t=2731

>> No.20972002

>>20971487
You are an actual god for predicting this anon

>> No.20972018

This thread could use some Mabosex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi1Zedq-weY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx_utoWZ9oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtgwdBZi22Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nDwA319a6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjOMZsMPDoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9utqTmHTLQ

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>>20971988
>react youtubers

>> No.20972071

>>20971783
She’s like Hitler and Jesus Christ of the vtubing world

>> No.20972099

>>20971727
Oh, Hi there.
I am willing to bet he was the one who created this thread

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>>20971987
>She's not very good at dancing
You take that shit back.
>>20971988
The thing to keep in mind is that the majority of people who listen to Suisei's singing like it to some degree, it's really only contrarian faggots here that try to say she can't sing.

>> No.20972156

>>20972071
She’s the Jim jones of the vtubing world

>> No.20972173

Please listen to Enna
https://youtube.com/channel/UCR6qhsLpn62WVxCBK1dkLow

>> No.20972197

>>20971727
Absolutely shameless

>> No.20972216

>>20972173
Fuck off niggerfaggot

>> No.20972218

>>20971758
Are you retarded? There literally is. Creating sounds that humans tend to enjoy is a very scientific thing that has been researched a lot as well.

>> No.20972224

>>20972060
She is not familiar with hololive, so I don't think she would have any reason to favor Suisei over the others. She also has classical training in music, so she is not completely talking out of her ass.

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>>20971727
>Why Hololive singer blablablabla they good but blablabla
>post Enna

>> No.20972269
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>>20972106
I don’t like it because it’s not good

>> No.20972280

>>20972173
>>20971727
We have Enna fans here
I repeat, we have Enna fans here

>> No.20972393

>>20971152
Holy autism

>> No.20972401

>>20972218
>Are you retarded?
No that would be the idiots that actually believe this "science".
If there was a scientific method to creating enjoyable sounds there would literally be no need for artists anymore.
It's all bullshit that only midwits believe

>> No.20972455

Next Color Planet was the best Holosong. It was beat by Stellar Stellar. If you like artists like Utada Hikaru Suisei is a bullseye. Watch above her Fes3 stellar stellar performance, it's amazing. She's also great on 3時12分

>> No.20972504

>>20972455
trying too hard to falseflag

>> No.20972544

>>20971727
Chumbuds love Enna!
https://youtu.be/j9fUr0IaReI

>> No.20972560
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>>20971152
[MOGS YOUR OSHI IN YOUR PATH]

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>>20970047
Right like if I wanted a unquie voice then I'd listen to Towa for her deep voice. If it's idol voice then there is literally every one else like Sora and Mio

>> No.20972607

>>20972544
no we dont, and no we will not watch her.

>> No.20972616

>>20970047
Enna > IRYS > Suisei

>> No.20972626

>>20971887
Within hololive only? Towa, Kanata, Moona, Risu

>> No.20972693

>>20972401
there are patterns in music that people are more inclined to enjoy than others. It's similar to how composition in an illustration or graphic logo work. It's possible to intentionally hold someone's attention, and keep their eyes wrapped on a painting.

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>>20972616
Firstly dont involve my oshi here, second should be the other way around and lastly i wont watch Enna

>> No.20972806

what's the purpose of this thread, OP?

>> No.20972827

>>20972578
Sora is so good at actual performing. I love that Pekora seem to learned a thing or 2 from her

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>>20972616
Dont you fucking dare compare IRyS and Suisei with Enna. Keep her away from my oshis you dumbass.

>> No.20972911

>>20972806
The new popular thing to do on this board is to say that Suisei sucks at singing because it's an easy (You) farm

>> No.20972932

>>20972806
Do you not know about the Enna fans ?

>> No.20972955

>>20970047
Suisei sounds great during karaokes and prerecorded stuff but her live performances are 50/50, sometimes she pulls it off and others she sounds quite offkey. NCP is the best example of this, the studio version is kino af but she can't really replicate it live unless it's a karaoke
She needs vocal training with a professional, it would give her a huge boost and idk why the fuck she doesn't wanna considering she is the most passionate holo when it comes to singing

>> No.20972979

>>20972911
Hoshiyomis are retarded bait biters

>> No.20972987

>>20972911
but there's literally 2 hoshiyomis in this thread, and I'm one of those

>> No.20973106

>>20972987
I'm one of them, and my contribution is posting Hachi, Mabosex, Kotone-sama and Himehina.

>> No.20973146

>>20972979
Nah, I browse these threads because I enjoy watching people seethe and for every Hoshiyomi I've seen in these threads, there's ten people seething at Suisei's success. And the Hoshiyomi seem to be just lightly trolling half of the time.

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>>20972979
Yes. Something about Suisei makes my brain turn off and I respond rabidly to any bait that makes her out to be anything less than a queen. I'm not like this for any other entertainer, but I guess there's no such thing as being immune to propaganda.

>> No.20973214

Enna and Chima> All Vtubers out there personally

>> No.20973216

>>20973165
Suisei would cringe at you bro.

>> No.20973247

>>20973216
anon anon anon...

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>>20973216
I'm not a unicorn, though. I just like Suisei and dislike jealous SEAniggers.

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>>20972806
Everyday around this very hours a thread about Hololive singer appears followed by a poster saying Enna Enna Enn-. Truly horrifying. don't say her name thrice. or you will be arguing with a schizo + giga autist

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>>20973214
cute nipplesanji nigger

>> No.20973386

>>20973146
>>20973165
Cringe

>> No.20973437

>>20973146
>>20973165
She won’t fuck you bro

>> No.20973449

>>20973292
I used to think Enna fans were alright. Turns out they are worse than Chumbuds and Nousagi

>> No.20973466

>>20973292
Enna is real

>> No.20973497

>>20972401
so true anon, notes are a fake idea. scales were made up to oppress free thinkers

>> No.20973510

>>20972401
>If there was a scientific method to creating enjoyable sounds
if AI-generated music is enjoyable then music is scientifically proven and yes it exists.

>> No.20973559

>>20972578
>mio
invalid opinion even if its seggss

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>>20973386
>>20973437
>>20973466
t. Enna

I like you too, Enna. I'm even listening to God Sees All right now.

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I heard Hoshiyomi easily fell for bait back then in the /jp/ days. What was it like?
And what happened to them now?

>> No.20973701

>>20973570
what is even so special about her design?
Millie has a way better design.
I know her singing is overrated but even her design seems overrated

>> No.20973729

>>20972607
This. My eyes are for gura only. Don’t need other chuuba

>> No.20973754
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Because hoshischizos arent schizos just for a joke see
>>20971152

Mio mogs her absolutely for example, and she's just taking it easy

>> No.20973788

>>20973701
>what is even so special about her design?
I really like birds.

>> No.20973822

>>20973559
Fuck you

>> No.20973853

>>20973822
NTA, Mio is great but she's definitely not a traditional idol voice.

>> No.20973860

>>20970757
> suisei already reached her full potential
> don't even go to voice lesson
Lol

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>>20971987
Love this damn comet like you wouldnt believe.

>> No.20973958

>>20973701
I love chinky feet and pisss anon. Pls anderstand

>> No.20973998

>>20973292
You forgot something, this fag like to reply to his own comments or makes a multiple comment about one post. Ex. Days ago thread 9 IPs 35 post

>> No.20974041

>>20973633
they made a containment thread /micomet/

>> No.20974065

>>20974041
rent free

>> No.20974083

>>20971887

Ina
https://youtu.be/QxXTR6zY9JM?t=52
https://youtu.be/cOrzOEHpmL0?t=52

Kronii
https://youtu.be/A56dQSUUDXs?t=57
https://youtu.be/TZfoPX12vCs?t=57

Bae
https://youtu.be/zglDxZYMO-c?t=80
https://youtu.be/lBobo3uIDVw?t=80

beautiful timbre, can reach the high notes but don't have the technique to sing them properly

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>>20974083

>> No.20974230

>>20972018
If I start smoking a pack a day will I get a voice like this?

>> No.20974252

>>20974230
There's only one way to find out.

>> No.20974475

>>20970047 shit bait

>> No.20974545

>>20972401
You're dumb as shit. Patterns we enjoy and patterns we don't enjoy are CLEARLY identifiable and universal for all humans. There is no intrinsic difference between consonance (harmony) and dissonance, it is LITERALLY just "this sounds good, this sounds bad" which is universally applicable to all human ears (ie. OBJECTIVE).

I don't think you realize just how much music uses the same fucking patterns over and over again because the sounds we enjoy are actually a very tiny percentage of the total possible combinations.

So yes, there is a scientific method to creating enjoyable sounds, and A.I. can write music better than humans the same way it can draw better than humans. It just wouldn't be very original which is totally seperate from what is enjoyable to the human ear.

>> No.20974590

>>20970047
I still think IRyS sings better, but that presence on stage? fucking incredible

>> No.20974673

>>20974590
Same

>> No.20974713

>>20974590
>but that presence on stage? fucking incredible
There's a reason she actually got an audible response out of the HoloFes crowd when she finally took the stage.

>> No.20974753

>>20971152
>Some people theorise that certain pieces of music are enjoyable because they emulate patterns that exist in nature, even if the listeners don't consciously know it.
Those people sound like retards

>> No.20974777

>>20970047
She has a good enough voice, strong branding musically and likes vocal bombastic tryhard songs

>> No.20974804

don't know who is the best but know for sure Moona is overrated, what a terrible voice for singing, jesus.

https://youtu.be/EFiLyt0nDTU?t=260

>> No.20974935

>>20971706
Why do we care about the opinion of Miko again?

>> No.20974947

>>20970047
Can say the same with Towa, Kanata and Sora. They're decent. But definitely miles behind the typical pros in JP music industry.

>> No.20974971

>>20974935
Because she raped Pekora.

>> No.20974999

>>20974804
Rent free

>> No.20975032

>>20973165
And a few days back we had a thread about Suisei didn't have gachikois lmao.

>> No.20975043

>>20974935
Now that you say it Miko doesnt know jack shit about holomens

>> No.20975057

>>20971988
In the space of a single song Suisei makes this woman cum and turns her into a gosling.

>> No.20975233

>>20975043
I'm not saying she doesn't know, i'm saying Suisei is a good friend of hers and also holos like to hype out every one other performances, so she's pretty biased.
If you heard their description of the fes it would sound like it was the most perfect and jaw-dropping concert in the history of mankind but i beg to differ.

>> No.20975455

>>20970047
Alright anon, I know what your actual intentions were here.
I know you are an Enna fan who wants to tell people that Enna is better than the best singer in Holo.
At first, you guys were targeting IRyS
then you also include Suisei
Now you guys have found another target, 2 infact(Moona and Risu).
Well sadly all the 4 Holo members I mentioned are still better than her. Even a lot of members that I did not mention like Kanata, Towa, Watame, Gura, etc are better than her

>> No.20975595

>>20973165
Kek, people really fell for your larping. Good one, hoshiyomi

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>>20973754
Mio is cute hag and all but she can't sing to save her life.

>> No.20975727

>>20975455
I mean I am not a Niji fan by any means, but if i had to rank the best singer from Holo/Niji En it will be like

SS
Enna
S
Elira, Moona(Elira a little better than Moona
A
Millie, Pomu, IRyS, Gura when singing at her comfort zone, Risu(Millie>Pomu>IRyS>Gura>Risu)
B
Gura in general, Bae, Mumei, Ike, Sonny
Rest of them

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>>20975717
Now you have hardcore brain damage
Or never watch streams

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>>20975727
try harder

>> No.20975856

>>20973292
>>20975727
Holy shit it's the same fucking guy, I swear I read this dogshit tier list like 4 times on 4 different days

>> No.20975973

>>20975727
Although Enna is overrated as hell, i can understand why people like her voice, but wf is wrong with you?
Pomu, Elira, Millie ahead of likes of IRyS, Gura, Bae, Mumei. WTF is wrong with you?
Even Kiara is a better singer than Millie and Pomu.

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>>20973853
I feel as though she improved the most in hololive which is why i choose her as an example every one else kinda were always good at singing or haven't improved
>>20973559

>> No.20976256

>>20970047
It's basically the saviorfag idol raising experience on cheat mode because she's rocketshipping to success. To experience the full ride:

Watch this for background on her struggles streaming to an empty room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ87zuPkqMs

Then watch her concerts where she first "made it" (at least the clip where she cried with azki): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmmnB4bP0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajwv4ANSSg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqzI9y5yII

Then read the translated lyrics for Ghost, Stellar Stellar, and Pieces, etc which reinforce her cinderella story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAuvl17sRs

Congrats, you're now a hoshiyomi!

>> No.20976362
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20976362

LMAO anyone who SERIOUSLY thinks Suisei is better than Enna needs to look at this. The consensus clearly converges on Enna being superior in many ways.

Source: Glorious /vt/ baitpost iterated upon 1000 times

>> No.20976483

>>20975727
I swear I have seen this list multiple times,
Next you will say
>if anything, IRyS is Elira Lite and Risu is Pomu Lite
and when i will counter my argument by saying IRyS has the best technique of them all(Which is an actual fact)and you will reply with
>IRyS has 30% less technique than even Elira.
Then I will post clips of Enna and IRyS singing the same song and your response will be
>Well, actually Enna sounds more faithful to the original as I claimed. You know know nothing about music theory you fucking retard.
and then will proceed with
>IRyS struggles at the high tones you deaf asshole.
I am now quite familiar with your script Enna fans.

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>>20975773
Show (1)uno)one good example of Mio singing nicely.

>> No.20976584

>>20976362
I like how the list says Hololive singer and then they proceed to add Enna.
Try harder Niggersanji boy

>> No.20976601

>Nijichinks having their daily melty over Hololive mogging them in everything

Reminder:
Forever KEKed by male "livers"
Forever associated with chinks
Forever associated with nipple torture
Forever associated with hiring Hololive rejects (people not GOOD ENOUGH to make it into the prestigious Hololive)

>> No.20976645

>>20976483
Holy shit anon, you actually murdered that guy.

>> No.20976662

>>20970047
I like her power and confidence in her voice. She has a lot of presence singing. To contrast, IRyS can hit all the right notes, but her voice sounds very cutesy and generic anime style.

>> No.20976683

She feels a lot like the most generic J-Pop singer that could be created.

>> No.20976713
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20976713

Reminder that if your oshi is in Hololive then she kneels to PINK WOMAN.

>> No.20976737

>>20976662
anon dont worry, he was not talking about IRyS here. He wanted to bring Enna here somehow

>> No.20976807

>>20976483
>IRyS has 30% less technique than even Elira.
Wtf, is it true.
I mean I don't know shit about Music, but even i can say that IRyS probably has the best technique of them all

>> No.20976841

>>20976526
theres no reason for that
you're a marinefag so you're ears are busted already
you would know good singing if it kicked you in the nuts

>> No.20977046
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>>20976841
Indeed Marine's song kicks me in the balls everytime because her singing is better.
But without joking, the true goddess of singer in Hololive is the OG Tokino Sora.

>> No.20977192

Anyone who thinks IRyS is better than Enna needs to get their ears checked.
Comeback when IRyS is able to pull off something like this in her live Karoke
https://youtu.be/irYs9OAA_Ws
https://youtu.be/Fc-NH2jrO6s
https://youtu.be/HSNi43PZg-Q
https://youtu.be/bA1Dnrd3XKM
https://youtu.be/Q_dRL3SMjAM
https://youtu.be/fGS5vU0VkJw
IRyS will not even make the top 3 in Niji En

>> No.20977289

>>20977192
Do you have one of these but for Mumei?

>> No.20977338

>>20977289
no.

>> No.20977377
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>>20977192
Sweetie, no one cares about niji EN here.
Come back with a better list of hololive singers.

>> No.20977400

>>20977338
then shill your chuuba somewhere else, this the suisei thread

>> No.20977439

>>20977400
This isn't the Suisei thread

>> No.20977498
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20977498

Suisei may be up there but Matuli comes close as sweetest voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT6gTs2B1Uw

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>>20977439
say it aint so

>> No.20977584

>>20977497
I don't understand the strategy tb.h

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>>20975973
I'm starting to think that this guy >>20975727 is a Niji fan

>> No.20977704

>>20977377
>Allergic to good content
Why are Holobromies like this

>> No.20977713

Fuck the good tryhard singers (for karaoke), I want the SOUL singers like Flare and Polka who go apeshit ocassionally

>> No.20977779
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>>20977704
>good content

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>>20977704
>good content
>can't get more than 500k views on any of her songs/ covers
I swear Enna fans are delusional sometimes. Get over your dumb whore. This is why you get so many antis.

>> No.20977936

This thread has literally no topic. It started as bait, evolved into falseflagging, went to tier lists, and now there's tribalfagging.
It's living on nothing.

>> No.20977956

>>20977865
Number fag lmao.
Hololive only has numbers to back up your argument.
Enna is way better than any En (And at the same table as Suisei) when it comes to singing anon.

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20978009

>>20977704
>good content
>nijisanji

>> No.20978067
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20978067

The best singer in Hololive is Sora

>> No.20978072

>>20977192
>lists, and now there's
What a fucking incredible singer. I am kind of afraid to admit it but some of the songs are better than the ones performed at the Holo fest here.
And my god, she got power. I am impressed

>> No.20978141

>>20977779
>>20977865
>>20978009
Lmao, go and watch a Niji en stream. Their chemistry is better than anyone in Holo EN

>> No.20978218

>>20977956
>Enna is way better than any En (And at the same table as Suisei
Nijicope. Delusional.
>Hololive only has numbers to back up your argument.
And you have nothing. Go watch your boring, overrated whore majority don't give a shit about her.

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>>20977956
But can Enna rival the queen Kizuna Ai?
I don't think so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KyE3TR3j5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtU_sb4jYE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o54_OajeQkE

>> No.20978290

>>20978141
>collabs, collabs, and collabs
that's what you get when you hire niggers who have no personality

>> No.20978324

>>20978218
then prove me wrong and share some clips of IRyS/Gura or any of the Holo En singing.

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>>20978141
No one said about their stream, anon. I agree they are better than hololive EN when it comes to streaming. Singing however...no.

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>>20978226
Not like this, not the Ai post... I can already sense someone midway through shilling Mito's Moon Rabbit album... And here comes... the Peanuts kun poster, and now an obligatory HACHI...

Tribalbros... We got too cocky...

>> No.20978391

>>20978335
How?
I literally provided the best clips of Enna'[s singing. No one in Holo En even comes close to her

>> No.20978394

lmao Enna isn't even as good as Choco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODsRO1Whgf0

>> No.20978430

>>20978394
...gachi?

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20978480

>>20978391
That's her best, really?
Oh dear sweet child.

>> No.20978522

>>20972218
Just like emotions right? Selfawareness lacking subhuman

>> No.20978525
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20978525

>>20978335
Nah
Holo EN are better streamers
Nijisanji is literally getting carried by Vox's cock and their females are nothing but accessories and occassional onaholes

>> No.20978537

>>20978391
Jesus christ schizo, why the fuck are you replying to yourself? IPs hard stuck around 60 and post increasing by 30. and no Enna is a boring ass streamer with mediocre voices.
Yes number is everything, If you a boring fucker like Enna you will be stuck around that pathethic number. losing to fucking HoloID out of everything

>> No.20978590

>>20978525
sounds like cope anon. As you on ly have the numbers.
Whereas Niji en has content and friendship unlike Holo

>> No.20978605

>>20978525
>rent free cuck
I bet 90% of viewers who watch niji EN knows or watch the male tubers.

>> No.20978633

>>20978537
This. If Enna's so good then getting better numbers would be a cakewalk. But that isn't the case because she's a boring retard.

>> No.20978652

>>20978590
>friendship
tell your whore elira to stop recruiting all her friends into the whole nijiEN. retard
also seethe

>> No.20978654

>>20978537
Suck a fart of your moms ass, shitskin. That's a different anon replying to my post.

>> No.20978661

>>20978480
And look how she mogs all of Holo

>> No.20978734

>>20978654
Hope your whole family die on a car crash so you can stop thinking about enna 24/7 and then maybe you can join them by necking yourself :)

cope.

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>>20978590
>content and friendship
more like insecurity and seething

>> No.20978780

Listen to miichan sing with SOUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vtglQPhNqE

>> No.20978807

>>20978734
Omg i'm this faggot >>20977377
How can i be an Enna fag.

>> No.20978816

Its clear then HoloLive En is being mogged by Nijisanji En not only in views but also in Sc and talent and skills. Ohh what a bad time to be a Holo fan when your company is not even in the top2 of En vtubers(1st is Vshojo and now 2) is Nijisanji EN)

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>>20978605
Explains why Vox and Mysta gets 10k+ ccv while the deadweights get <3k

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>>20978816
>an ESL typed this
opinion discarded then

>> No.20978958

>>20978841
because they have chinks on their side. Remove the chinks and they will get mogged by Selen. Mysta struggles ton get 2K viewers on twitch most times and Selen gets like 2.5 K there.
Also a lot of Holo fans are vod viewers for En

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20978966

>>20978841
Easy, Niji fags are fags
Holobro's are straight.

>> No.20979083

>>20978958
Cope. If it wasn't for Luxiem, Nijisanji would stay trash. Even the girls willingly admit this.

>> No.20979118

>>20978958
this.
I never understand it that when a stream ends, likes of Mumei, Kronii, Ame have more views on their vod but Mysta and Vox have more live viewers. I think its probably because when most of your viewers are from the same country(West taiwan), youtube will not remove the viewers

>> No.20979129

>>20977936
The concentrated essence of /vt/.

>> No.20979221

>>20979083
and they have somehow become more trash in terms of content. Plus it does not negate the fact that they get majority of views from China

>> No.20979256

This whole thread is so fucking weird, what the fuck am i reading?

>> No.20979299

Nijis can't really sing, but that's okay because they don't even like idol culture. If you want passionate and talented singers, watch Hololive.

>> No.20979312
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20979312

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phjWw9mdQyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfI8sxSFtuE
Decided to watch Enna's cover because of nijishills and I have to say that Reine unironically mogs Enna. What the fuck are enna fans smoking?

>> No.20979327

>>20974935
she's the protagonist of hololive

>> No.20979384

>>20976256
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAuvl17sRs
Fuck bilibili for taking this away from us

>> No.20979435

>>20970047
https://youtu.be/_2Idpr4y7uk?t=138
Apologize

>> No.20979482

>>20979256
the mad ramblings of a schizophrenic mind with occasional external commentary

>> No.20979518

>>20979221
Can chinks even understand them? I see a lot of Americans in their chat sometimes.

>> No.20979530

>>20971758
why are third worlders like this?

>> No.20979700
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20979700

Cope and seethe nijiniggers, none of your livers nor spleens can ever produce absolute kino like this: https://streamable.com/j3twls

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20979833

>>20979700
Miko looks weird in this video

>> No.20979922

Listen to the BEST version of Phony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqwRg9ZgANI

No one even comes close

>> No.20980074

>>20974083
Kronii has technique? I thought she had depression.

>> No.20980167

>>20970047
It's because suifags are the niggers of hololive. They never shut up about her. I've listened to her several times and yeah she's good but I wouldn't even go as far to call her great let alone the best in hololive

>> No.20980201

>>20971152
no need for this kind of explanation when you could just say that she's a goddess

>> No.20980202

>>20971797
queen!

>> No.20980289

>>20977936
brave and stunning observation anon

>> No.20980426

niji n-words gonna tribal as always and hoshiyomis can't help but take the bait

>> No.20980571

All hololive music with the exception of karaoke streams are autotuned anyway, so who cares

>> No.20980589

>>20971797
I want to be her slave

>> No.20980873

>>20980571
https://streamable.com/zulgc8
explain this

>> No.20981113

>>20980873
Outside event. That's why it sounds worse.

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20981386

>>20980571
>t-they p-post produce their m-music
how fucking pathetic

>> No.20981505

Suisei sucks at singing but faggot op is a tranny nigger dyke

>> No.20981836

Whats the worst thing that Suisei has done?

anttis can only say singing sucks because theres nothing else to dig up

She's too perfect, there got to be some dirt on her

>> No.20981903

>>20980571
Let me fix that for you

>All music with the exception of karaoke is autotuned anyway, so who cares

>> No.20981919

cope + seethe concentration thread

>> No.20981997

>>20981836
There is no dirt, kill yourself

>> No.20982217

>>20981836
She personally hasn't done anything. But her fanbase? Some of the most annoying queers on this board. I'd gladly drink with a nijinigger before a hoshicuck

>> No.20982221

>>20979922
I like Seffyna's, Anya killed it too though

>> No.20982501

>>20982221
Just checked it out, it's good
I don't know why some singers don't put strength into that song when it's so much better when they go all out.

>> No.20982636

>>20981836
She started the "Hi honey" trend and instead of shutting it down, she encouraged those niggers. Now it's a thing.

>> No.20982780

>>20970047
no she's definitely the best singer. just a full bodied voice with a total range, emotionally touching. most of the other vtubers are either too cringe or too genki as singers.

>> No.20982985

>>20970047
Sexy singing voice and releases good songs

>> No.20983756

>>20981836
she whored herself out for a fucking game show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAgdd8I2ZQg
zero dignity

>> No.20984272

>>20982636
I dont remember her encouraging EOP retards, youre mixing her up with haachama or aki i think

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>>20970047
Because they haven't bothered listening to the others. She is a hard worker but that's it really. Even Risu has more vocal range than her and I am no SEAmonkey.

>> No.20984462

>>20984272
She is too much of a gigastacy to encourage EOPs outside of duolingo Anonchama.

>> No.20984625

>>20984272
Because she didn't. He's just a fucking retard, it's right in his post. She didn't tell everyone to stop, which is the same as encouraging it in his unmedicated brain.

>> No.20985047

>>20971152
I kneel

>> No.20985415

Silence nijisister

>> No.20985833

>>20970047
Because music is more than singing capability. I think Irys is a better singer but her music sucks so I won't listen to it.

>> No.20985987

>>20970047
Just because there's a few better than Suisei does not mean that she's bad at singing. Her music excels in her ability to hold long notes with power. That alone resonates with a lot of people.

>> No.20986069

Ah /vt/. What a nice board this would be with IDs

>> No.20986479
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20986479

IT'S TIME FOR SHARKY


https://streamable.com/2ie1ug
https://streamable.com/hd8ryn
https://streamable.com/2v1zph
https://streamable.com/hq653a
https://streamable.com/l58ng2
https://streamable.com/dqstji
https://streamable.com/odp5lz
https://streamable.com/iqwy21
https://streamable.com/v3olwt
https://streamable.com/spk6u4
https://streamable.com/iox8n2
https://streamable.com/q0th5f
https://streamable.com/nx2fcb
https://streamable.com/kc08um
https://streamable.com/uv0uoz
https://streamable.com/opoe0w
https://streamable.com/nhk4yr
https://streamable.com/6dqscd
https://streamable.com/ds8u8q
https://streamable.com/g3xzbt
https://streamable.com/usqyk8
https://streamable.com/4t4blh
https://streamable.com/9qiinr
https://streamable.com/o0dosn

And finally, some cute
https://streamable.com/bnweqn

>> No.20986490

>>20970047
Her voice sounds good to my ears. That's it.

>> No.20986623

>>20978958
>remove a part of his fans, now you can see he's lower than selen!
Are you a retard? Why the nationality of the viewers should be taken into account?

>> No.20986706

>>20971758
Buddy. EVERYTHING you know can be explained through SCIENCE, okay?

>> No.20986795

>>20974935
she said the N word

>> No.20987016
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>> No.20987634

>>20973165
Even if Suisei didn't pander to the audience....she can steal our hearts and it fucking hurts man

>> No.20987784

>>20974753
Those people get paid good money and aren't retards like you

>> No.20987973

>>20980873
>https://streamable.com/zulgc8
..but that's autotuned

>> No.20988028

>>20987784
>t. Retard music analyst

>> No.20988264

>>20986706
Can your science explain why it rains?
Checkmate faggot.

>> No.20988684

>>20978522
There's literal chemicals that can be associated with certain emotions. I'm not going to go ahead and claim that this field is well researched but everything we know is explained through science and everything we don't know, we attempt to explain through science. Fuck off with your dumb shit.

>> No.20989032

>>20979312
I don't know what YOU"RE smoking. They're both great covers for different reasons.

>> No.20989695

>>20977713
Suisei is skill + SOUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4tyTACkqtE

>> No.20992299

>>20971588
The thread should have ended here.

>> No.20992515

>>20970155
thank you for your service miko poster

>> No.20992940

>>20979384
why was this removed, sorry newfag here

>> No.20993273

>>20992940
It belongs to Bilibili, it was a song made for Suisei, but paid by Bilibili. When hololive was kicked out of China, she couldn't sing it anymore

>> No.20993298

>>20993273
damn that's fucking sad

>> No.20993317

>>20971152
anon, all human voices follow pink noise curves for about the same range shown in the graphs. the way her voice was recorded (distance/angle of mic, room shape/size, etc) also has a huge impact on the frequency response. did this analysis use raw recordings?

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>>20993298
it's okay, we have andromeda now

>> No.20994126

>>20980571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfx6Iy1I8pc

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20994283

>>20971988
damn, the way she has a mini orgasm the time she replays the first verse

>> No.20994338

>>20971758
Cope

>> No.20994435

>>20985987
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMe_WNZAPss
This one always gets me

>> No.20994592

>>20974545
>>20973497
>>20973510

You need to listen to more music

>> No.20994730

>>20972018
Thanks, those are good recommendations

>> No.20994797

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5aqE2UZhI

>> No.20994945
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>>20972018
good shit anon, thanks for sharing

>> No.20995184

>>20970047
She's the best singer in Hololive and could easily make it as a professional singer. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either dumb, deaf, a hater, or a combination of all the above.

>> No.20995740

Cocoa will save this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ALRSD6RApo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb8KODRbBy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajw8Ne9aKgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPM6GNA0hLA

>> No.20995831

>>20995184
>brainwashed howhicuck

>> No.20996071

>>20995831
>retard who falls for the falseflagger

>> No.20996198

>>20988684
If you believe this can be associated with objective music goodness you're an absolute retarded midwit labratbrained maggot

>> No.20996764

>>20995831
Anyone who knows a smidge of music and has common sense will agree, it's not hard. A small portion of haters being obnoxious about how it isn't the case doesn't really change anything.

>> No.20997085

>>20970047
>Even in hololive
>uploaded via iphone
Yeah, you genuinely wanna know

>> No.20997565

>>20970047
autism...
They can't tell the difference between emotions, a happy person and a robot.
Suikopath earned this nickname for a reason.
She cut off her emotions and empathy and is only able to focus on the technique.

People with autism have the same inability to recognize emotions and dysfunctional empathy which means they only focus on her technique too and this makes her a perfect target for them because they don't have to focus on the emotional side of singing.

They would also like a vocaloid more than a vtuber if she had a perfect voice and AI to generate enough content...

>> No.20997765

>>20971152
This is the perfect example for an autist lacking the ability to feel the spiritual world, and external emotions.
Unable to distinguish the real from the fake, he misunderstands the true meaning of expression.

There are no statistics on the emotions and the spiritual world after all.
And why should there be from his perspective.
A blind person does not see colors.

>> No.20997854

>>20974230
Try with dry spirits

>> No.20997883

>>20970643
Sora...

>> No.20998534
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>>20997565
>Takes the suicopath meme seriously
lmao, where'd you come from? Reddit?

>> No.20998930

>>20998534
She is not a real psychopath, but she lacks the ability for empathy and to feel her own emotions.
Thanks for playing.

>> No.20999211

>>20998534
Emotions come from what would be call the inner child, or a more primitive part of the brain.
Those who attempt to ignore their pain cause the result of losing all their emotions after some time as all emotions are connected and you can't feel good ones without accepting the negative emotions.

This is the reason why she is attracted to Miko who is the embodiment of an inner child.
She is trying to recover what she lost.

>> No.20999241

Why do people care so much about what other people like?

>> No.20999316
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>>20999241
Because we care about other people because we really like other humans

>> No.20999359

>>20999316
bullshit, give me the real answer

>> No.20999404

>>20998930
>>20999211
>reddit

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>>20999404

>> No.20999655

>>20998930
>>20999211
>>20999404
>>20999577
>reddit

>> No.20999664

>>20999359
It's the real answer

Human love is infinite

>> No.20999677

>>20998930
>>20999211
Watch streams and lurk more

>> No.20999823

>>20999577
How ironic

>> No.21000043

>>20973165
I can't tell if you're falseflagging or not, but this is a perfect description of hoshiyomis. I've never seen a fanbase whose activity on the board is as focused on chasing bait as them.

>> No.21000053

>>20973216
She could release a fucking voice pack with full of insults to Hoshiyomis and they would buy it in a blink of an eye.

>> No.21000204

>>20970047
It's your vannila j-pop but you get to know the singer indepth

>> No.21000263

>>21000043
He's joking, you fucking sperg

>> No.21000285

>>21000263
I'm not.

>> No.21000426

I checked out Enna after seeing her shilled in every music thread for the last week or so and holy fuck how can anyone think her nasally voice sounds good?

>> No.21000451

>>21000043
>>21000263
And this thread is still alive because there was no topic for it, and a bigger kept bumping it >>20977936

>> No.21000669

>>20971727
that was your best card? lame

>> No.21000815

>>20979129
When will we get good bait threads again? All the current ones have been shit and boring.
Mori should do something new.

>> No.21000828

>>20980074
to be fair, she has a good technique for voice acting, but barelly nothing translates to singing... but nothing that a voice coach cant help

>> No.21000853

>>21000263
He really isnt

>> No.21001128

Your oshi's voice will never be this sweet
https://streamable.com/3yxkqz

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>> No.21001432

Sheep >>>>>>>> Comet in terms of holoJP singing.

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>>20970047
Good shit OP. 300+ replies. See you in the next Suisei bait thread.

>> No.21001906

>>21001593
The thread wasn't even about Suisei

>> No.21002012

>>21001906
I mean, it was, but people spent 3/4 of the thread discussing dumb shit and tribalfagging

>> No.21004065

>>20977956
Enna's opera style is unique for sure. And she's good at it.
It's worth checking out.
That's the best I can say about it.

>> No.21006622

>>20971758
>he thinks everything is that simple
if only, but its not. better start appreciating the complexity of things anonchama.

>> No.21006734

>>20974935
she's the reason you're here

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