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>>20932514Hey man
>at least the design isn't this shit
I don't get why they keep using the HoloID branch name. They are all using english and will probably speak english 95% of the time but they are bounded to stay in bottom tier no matter what just because they are HoloID
holy shit jannies actually did their fucking jobs and we have a fresh thread after the old one died
>>20932108>>20932123And this box power haven't done anything for holostars. And if box power you mean giving numbers to someone with no talent then sure anon. Youre just proving connor right.>>20932108Mika is 4view>>20932608All of those 3 are good designs.
https://twitter.com/sakonlieur/status/1506832853040242688https://twitter.com/sakonlieur/status/1506832853040242688https://twitter.com/sakonlieur/status/1506832853040242688
>>20932666You must've stopped watching the branch early on, at some point they ramped up the ID speaking.
>>20932608Why post these 2-views?
>>20932682So is anya and iofi
>>20932682>All of those 3 are good designs.The one of the left is kinda too round but they're okay. I kinda like ID3's designs too. I'm not seeing much of a problem.
>>20932666they all speak mostly indonesian now actually
2017: 1>Sora2018: 14>Roboco, Miko, Azki*>Gen 1>Gen 22019: 20>Suisei>Gamers>Gen 3>holostars>Gen 4>holoCN>stars 22020: 27>holoCN 2>Gen 5>holoID>stars 3>holoEN>holoID 22021: 11>Irys>holoEN 2>Gen 62022: 19+>ID3>stars 4(YOU ARE HERE)>EN 3>& VSinger>holoEN stars>Gen 7Are you leady?
>>20932666>boundedESLchama...It's closer to 60-40 anon, if you thought ID is speaking English 95% of the time, you're a threadreader
>>20932054They'll be 1-2k shitters in a month as usual.
It's funny as hell seeing the drastic difference in reaction to ID3 debut announcement compared to Stars.Hololive girls are all clamoring to welcome the new girls while the Stars were completely ignored.>>20932608I really liked the left one but the voice was shit.
>Hololive is basically FGO nowSo, when's the FGO x Hololive collab?
>>20932666This is not rrat central. At least watch streams if you're gonna post in here.
Over under 50k for the debuts?
>>20932920there's literally no way gen7 comes out this year
>>20932682ogey so we should watch these talented nijisanji livers right ?
>>20932786Yeah didn't someone in this thread said Iofi were getting 4k viewers while speaking mostly Indonesian during her salon frame yesterday? Granted I don't watch her so I can't verify it though.
>>20932920Can we kneel to Yagoo?
its over nijibros....
>>20932786>>20932915 Ngl, I only watch Reine rn (which is known for barely speaking id) and Moona karaokes. Didn't know now the others speak id nowadays
>>20932672Yes, when people actually use the report option AND Jannies are active, shit gets done. What a surprise. Also yea on the topic of becoming a Holo-parent, it's definitely up there as one of the most prestigious things you could land right now. You get to join the box without being completely tied to it, get constant work, get money+recognition, and probably have better working conditions than the vast majority of artists out there. It really makes me wonder why Nijisanji doesn't really have that same level of 'prestige' attached to it in the same role. Is it just how Anycolor approaches it?
>>20933014Wanna bet on it?
>>20932968>stars ignoredNah, as all things goes, when you present a shiny thing after a shiny thing, they'll clamor at the newest one. Stars isn't that far off so people could still catch it.
>>20933025yeah she did
>>20933076>Reine>barely speaking idyou stupid threadreader
>debuting tomorrowdoes ID really have enough of a draw to guerilla out debuts like HoloX?
>>20933101the gap between gen 5 and 6 was 15 months and they're already having crowding problems
>>20933202breaking the previous ID record is good enough
Rather than teasing and teasing ID3 is getting hot dropped 36 hours before debut. Not HoloX's 9 hours but still, seems a little soon. It really shows us how bungled EN2 was.
>>20933014Imo, if we get another Graduation (perhaps due to health-related reasons or otherwise) there's a non-zero chance they pull the trigger on Gen7. One of the big reasons behind the HUGE gap between Gen5 and Gen6 is that they were SEVERELY understaffed and have hired on a LOT of support staff since.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/150682839072440320120k likes! good so far
>>20933202ID is on the hype now, it's the perfect moment really.
>>20933202They gonna start with 3.0 and that will be 3.0's debutSource: I'm making it up
>>20932666While your point is correct, it has to be cleared that ID's branch is localized to their particular country and their chuubas should at least service the country. We don't really need a HoloEN and a HoloENSL. The problem from converting them to EN stems from the potential backlash that it could create at home which might not be small.
If only Hololive has Nijisanji's strength on twitter engagement... It'd be super strong but it's the only limiter they have.
>Moona implying a vacationIf this happens, all eyes will be on them
>>20933288EN2 went the same way Myth did, except scuffed by whatever delayed the debuts (Someone having technical issues or the tornado were the speculated reasons). IMO, fuck that noise, they should avoid that garbage from now on and just do one a day.
>>20933331homos...
>rain shaman vtuberkek
>>20933093Sadly Nijisanji as a Vtuber brand just doesn't really have that 'BOX' image attached to it. If you look at most of their sponsorship collabs, it's sort of 'the rich getting richer' style where King, Mito, Lize and the likes are almost always present while those in the bottom of the barrel barely get any recognition while Cover is known to enforce 'package deal' to their collabs.
>>20932920What even is the point you are trying to make?
>>20933388>wwwwwwwwSounds like a joke anon, come on now.
>>20933487there is no point I just thought it was funny
>>20933360GEN1/0 will debut 3.0 before everyone else, notice that only the members of those gen talked about it when it was announced.
I wonder if JP will clear out the timeslot for ID3. I know for a fact they won't even consider it for Stars.
What the hell happened to the marketing? Everyone was expecting an ID3 announcement at HoloFes.
>>20933463I think it's because clique culture is very prevalent over there. You'd notice it's always the same faces whenever they do concerts and other big events and stuffs.
>>20933463It's less "brand image" and has more to do their ACCELERATE strategy.Box needs time to establish core fanbase and for tourist to latch into
>>20933308I think they overreached after Gen 3. In the sense that a more conservative approach would've been to grow the company a bit after Gen 3 before debuting new gens, but then again, their luck prevailed and they kept with their normal raate of debuts until they got too understaffed.
>>20933575Probably so the big ID boost and move ID3 forward
>>20933575Yagoo delayed the ID3 announcement so that the Homostar announcement doesn't get overshadowed.
All this anus licking is making me sick
>>20933575They didn't want to overlap the announcement with Uproar.They know that Hololive debuts will be successful anyways.
>>20933575>dick tease EN2Went poorly>just dump JP6Went wellI think that they're opting for something pretty reasonable.
Will they get more than the last niji wave?
>>20933713Based Yagoo for his thoughtfulness. The name is literally trying to save Holostars by himself.
>>20933569did they clear out for ID2? I remember Ollie having a pretty big debut
>>20933684>>20933713This. For what's worth it, I think Stars gota bit more promo than they would've got if the new ID girls were announced at the same time.
Do you think ID3 will actually try to appeal to Indonesians on the go now that they have local store and donation platform set up?
I wonder which time-slot they will go for, anyone have a list of it from the ID side?
>>20933569Did anyone overlapped ID2 debuts?
>>20933761Ranoculius? Yes. Notcyx? No.
>>20933761Most assuredly.just look at ID 2 debut number
>>20932920at this point, holoen and holoid wont be included in the nest holofes with 26 members
https://twitter.com/yozoramel/status/1506835375847010306 Mel already pushing the box
>>20933758>>dick tease EN2>Went poorlyDon't act like that wasn't because of the retarded lore videos. Drip-feeding is a valid strategy as long as you don't fuck it up.
>>20933958isn't it because of susan's sub culls?
>>20933944orr they can just have a extra day.
>>20933688
>>20933958>HoloX in 9 hours, come or not you dumb cuntsThat was what ended up being successful. It's easier too.
>>20933343Seriously, Risu's original song gained nearly 50,000 views in a little over a day. It was at 393k when I checked on Monday.
>>20933947MERU-SAMA I KNEEL
>>20933944It's easy to fix. HoloFes should go on a world-tour with an alternating roster. It will be much bigger and it also leaves talents to have time to rest.
>>20932682where's the yagoo anus post, 2view whore?
>>20932920>2020 had 5 vtubers who debut and graduated on the same yearIs that the sacrifice for HoloEN?>Aloe>Kaoru>Artia>Doris>Rosalyn
>>20933850>>20933888Yes, they did. Or I at least remember it that way. I remember they got debut at the same week that Aki had her goth outfit.
>>20933891How much did Noctyx get again?
>>20933331>numberfagging twitter
>>20934094>It's easier tooIt is, yes. I mean that the other strategy is also valid, but it needs to be evaluated so you can see if the effort is worth it.
>>20934114Why is Mel suddenly so motivated?
>>20933958The lore video was hyped as fuck... until it took 2-3 weeks for the next video.That shit killed all the hype.
>>20934196for holo it makes more sense than niji. niji twitter numbers is fucking inflated because of topics
>>20933388Ramadhan (feasting month) is near
>>20933861Were you here when vt got raided by poorfag kikebook indogs because of Ollie's YAB?They'll only pander to those who have the money (indogs who can speak English)
>>20933688 Checking rimjob anon
>>20934107High Tide got almost 300k more view since Holofes Day 1Holofes really paying dividends huh
>>20934201When Cover plans they fail, when they YOLO it they succeed.
>>20934196holo twitter engagement is different my man
>>20934218Didn't she say she will be less active on her roommate account before? Probably got more free time from that and decided to increase her activities as Mel now.
>>20934339Holofes put Moona and Risu on the map for a lot of Holos.Even Iofi managed to get a bump in viewership.
>>20934395yep
Anyone still tracking the Reflect MV hourly growth? What is the current projection to 1m?
>>20934244if it was each day a new lore video leading up to the announcement day where they dropped EN2 then it would of been fine. But yea, dragging that for several weeks was retarded
>>20934326I'm fairly new here and mostly hang around /mep/In that case... That's good too. They're in a for-profit corp and pandering to broke asses would do them no favor financially.
Oof, the debuts start at the same time as the Koyori-Marine-Chloe-Korone Raft collab. Will they overlap it? Lots of nips would watch that instead
people saying she's ugly has never left their room in yearscorrupted with porn and social media
>>20934585View count still bugged last I checked
>>20934218>Why is Mel suddenly so motivated?Rules making her RM account less viable, so she has no choice but to go all-in on the Hololive box. Personally, I think she can have a nice incline if she continues to stream regularly, especially since there's a hole after Rushia got axed.
>>20934363So, pic related?
>Subaru dox!!! Better release ID3!
In another news, Omega is alive
>selen almost reaching kroni numbersSELEN INCLINE
posted in wrong threadmy bad numberbros
>>20934749Now way this is real...
>>20934644koyo already tweeted that we should expect changes to the schedule for the weekend, probably relating to that
>>20934750Subaru's dox is harmless though. If anything I'm interested to see if she gets a buff from it
>>20934841based unitychad koyo
>>20933861Theres nothing Indonesians about the designsTheir tweets are in EnglishThey weren't shilled at Hololive ExpoAnon, ID3 may have major marketing problems in their hands right now
>>20934107It waa 340k right after Holofes day 2
>>20934675Her #s have been doing better recently, so I think it's already having an effect. Regularly streaming is generally always a benefit
>>20934749God I wish this cunt would just fuck off forever. They have to be deliberately making him a cunt so that all the hate towards EN managers is thrown his way. There's no other explanation.
>>20934869Harmless to us but to her? Who knows. Taking the heat off their biggest star is worth botching an entire indog gen.
>>20934869Cute roommates tend to get a buff.
>>20934869>Subaru's dox is harmless though.Only if she doesn't have any crazy stalkers.
>>20934749It's fake
>>20934749>it's realfuckhttps://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1334017308809981953
>>20934749not real but great shitpost>>20934902the only part i don't really like about her, wish she didn't gave that much attention to fucking ollie, anyas fine i guess
>>20935001literally nijinigger mentality
>>20933013No, because the ones that were mentioned aren't talented. Aizono, Moira and many deserve to be where they are with how mediocre they are
>>20934196after smol Ame got those huge numbers it became really fun
>>20935034you'll never get me to like IDs
>>20935049>Moira>mediocreMy dick thinks otherwise.
Expected but the blue girl got a lot of memes right now
>>20935091you don't have to like the IDs, but getting on a holo's case for interacting with other holos is literally nijinigger mentality
homunculus bros....why we keep going lower..
>>20934987what a fucking retard
>>20935172>3.1k is bad for a niji female
>>20935114What kind?
>>20935150i'd literally never say anything to koyo directly about it, it's just sours my mood a bit
>>20935172>still playing arcueusyep, Ponto is a lost case.Expect 200 ccv next month
>>20935001>>20935034>>20935091Are Holos converting Nijiniggers into Holoniggers now?
>>20935150Box pushing is a meme.
>>20935172isnt this like her third stream?
first hour. homos...
>>20933861They seemed to have hired 3 English speakers, so I'm gonna go with a no. Their only chance is to hire people who are literally unable to speak a language that is not Indonesian so they'll be forced to stream in it.
>>20935205This is her 3rd-4th stream faggot.Even Selejo didn't fell this hard
>>20935211Joke kind because of her "lore" and name.
>>20935172if she keeps this audience she'll unironically be a high tier niji female
>>20935205she debuted 4 days ago retardall of the gen is already doing worse ccv each stream or stagnating
>>20933594Yeah, the same faces. Aiba, Tomoe, Yorumi and many others in Fantasia or all the ones with 3D on NJU are the same faces..
>>20935321Most indie will suck dicks for 1K anon.....
HOLO ID GOLD! HOLO ID GOLD!HOLO ID GOLD! HOLO ID GOLD!
>>20933463t. someone who dont actually watch nijisanji, as most of this thread
>>20935331this is her with debut buff anon...
>>20935508At the rate she is going, she will be sucking a whoooole lotta dick to keep her CCV above 1k...
>>20935331No one keeps the audience they had their 3rd stream.
>>20935508all of them will be below that next month if they keep the pace of going lower each stream/stagnating on the FIRST week..
>>20935329>genif it wasn't already clear who talk about nijisanji in this thread kek
>>20935651Oh I'm sorry anon, are they not using your chosen terminology? Are your liver waves not being respected?
>>20935698no anon, it just make clear that 99% of the thread are holokeks
>>20935651waves will always be the worst of the two terms, just like liversget over it
>>20935508Keep in mind that Niji doesn't pay wages to their livers black company am i right?and only get sc, merch, or ticket sales money.But most nijis aren't that popular so they literally never get a cut of tickets and merch money.
>>20935784Isn't Nijisanji literally the only group that uses "liver"? Everyone else uses "Vtuber" or "Streamer"
>>20935737No shit? Do you also complain that most of the people in Japan are Japanese?
>>20935737great observation sister!
>>20935737watchu gonna do about it you bitchhuh
>>20935737That the whole board you fucking retard, /vt/ only exist because of hlg anyway and not the dead niji jp thread that was only used to dump stream links.
I think this new ID gen won't even pass 200k subscribers the first month, Holos sub gains have slowed to a crawl recently
>>20935737>seething this hard because /#/ don't use the Anycolor-approved termfuck off to /jp/ then faggot.
>>20936040I will grudgepost this when the break 200k on debut
>ID3 announcement>New homos forgotten immediately
>>20936061Keep it to yourself. We are busy dealing with Sellennigger shitting up thread for days.
>>20936040They'll definitely be less successful. ID2 got good subs and views at debut because they were riding the wave of HoloEN's success. Now we're at a place where the options for EOP viewers has increased immensely and even HoloEN has shown diminishing returns. Far less eyes are going to be on them this time.
>>20936224>forgottenmore like Yagoo brings out playmate for Uproar
>>20936224can't wait to see the sub difference
>>20936224good, can't wait until they flop, then they announce they didn't find anyone good for the en one, and then finally close that branch
>>20935820Pretty sure most modern startups use the term Liver because they don't want to be associated with Hololive's toxic idol culture
>>20936424
>>20936224anon, yagoo is bringing out 3 more girls for the homos to collab with.
>>20935624Lain in the making.
>>20936325We'll see based how high the debut numbers this time will be. Also Vestia will be the one that will set the expectations for the rest of the gen. Hope she does something amazing in her debut to further boost her genmates
>EN2 gets Wado>ID2 gets Pochi>ID3 gets YasudaSo...what's EN3 going to get?
>>20935820>>20935784Just it in the right context>>2093580799% of the industry are black companies because only cover has salary and even this one is small.you also forgot voice packs, sponsorship and other venues.
>>20936325This 13k for new outfits so debut is more likely to be around 20k at max
>>20936663Fumihiko
>>20936424Can you bring up the list? I'd like to verify this claim before calling you a faggot for lying so blatantly.
>>20936630If they are going to be like Lain then they will be fairly successful.
>>20936424Like which ones? CyberLive uses gen and vtuber, as does Prism Project, Tsunderia, Neo Porte and WACTOR. AkioAir uses "season" and vtuber. Who the fuck besides Niji is using "wave" and "liver"? I literally don't know a single group that does
>>20936705Anon, not every niji gets sponsorship money.When's the last time Elipha got a sponsorship deal?
>>20936644The debut numbers are going to be high as fuck. How are they going to do post-debut, is the problem
Original song?
>>20936758Successful for indies, huge flop for corpos.
>>20936865>The debut numbers are going to be high as fuckidk, it's not like they are JP, EN and ID numbers have been pretty pathetic as of late
>>20936630Not even Lain is that bad during her debut week
>https://twitter.com/Shin_umiushi_O/status/1506841283444109313Welp
>>20936896Who?
>>20936947EOPs will watch the debut, ID is pretty much EN2.5 at this point
World of Warships upcoming collab?
>>20936915>huge flopnah, they'll fit right in on manjisanji
>>20937012FUCK.Which one is he going to fuck up
>>20937012OH NO NO NO NO
>>20937025https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1506828390724403201Middle left
>>20937012It does not mean anything, schizo
>>20937073Voice packs?
>>20937131bet
>>20937073>Kiararuined
>>20937245>kiara on BismarckKRIEGSMARINE
>>20936947> ID numbers have been pretty pathetic as of lateWhat ? They are currently having one of their best week, Moona got 19k recently a and Iofi got 4k yesterday
>>20937073Isn't world on warships a belarussian game?
>>20937012SjdjxhsjjdndddnWhy does this faggot STILL have work?
HoloID seems boosted off their Holofes performances, so the new debuts might do very well.
>>20937012Hope this means nothing bc if not... Hololive truly doesn't learn.
>>20936811Im only listing what you missed on money. Btw, I guess you chose to ignore Nijirock and the concerts she has been?
>>20937012hey remember when he tweeted about council and holoX debuts and everyone thought he was working on it?Sometimes a fan is just a fan anons
>>20936915Not for the individual vtubers.
>>20937012what if he took some classes?
>>20937073really weird collab, not even a game that weebs would play
>>20937700That'll be the day...
>livers vs vtubers>gens vs wavesThis is the worst timeloop. I can't comprehend why someone would genuinely, shamelessly care about this shit enough to argue about it. People are even smug about it kek
>>20937620But, hear me out now, what if he's only allowed to work on minor branch since his last debacle?
>>20936424>liver
>>20937787wargames is loaded anon
>>20937496Ollie's yab also brought some normies newblood
>>20937818Wave is 100% fine, liver just looks retarded in text form since it is the name of a very important organ. I will die on that hill even though I understand why it exists.
>>20937073https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/topic/55148-looks-like-hololive-collba-is-comming/?tab=comments#comment-580768heres the isreal fact check whatever
>>20937073Botan of course.
>>20937404As far as I am aware, their company is based in outside of Belarus and they even sacked some of their people for speaking up in favor of the Russian invasion of Ukraine because they have staff from Kiyv.
>>20933183>that fucking graphjesus christ, I know it was bad yesterday but I didn't realize it was THAT bad
>>20938014she puts herself out there because of her game choices, it's natural she gets a million sponsors
>>20937073Didn't they have a Fubuki/Marine collab at one point in the past?
>>20938059Don't look at Botan's ER graph unless you can handle gore
>>209333883D debut?
>>20937787Shows what you know. They had an Azur Lane collab a while ago.
>>20934750its just a coincidence
>>20938098https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/sales-and-events/hololive-commanders/
>>20938153but Azur Lane IS a weeb game
>>20938144Most likely no. They've been (jokingly or not) talking about taking vacations when ID3 debuted in one of their Minecraft collab stream, I think?
>>20938153Azur lane has cute girls you don't need to be obsessed with ships to actually enjoy it
>>20937935As a nijifag I can agree. Wave is good and liver is good but not when you need to read, as you can get confused between the actual organ
>>20938098Yeah they did. IIRC it kind of stopped though since back in those days WoWS was pretty chummy with Azur Lane and then the Taiwan yab happened. No idea how they operate now.
>>20938258Vacation to Japan for 3D debut
>>20938106I will take your words for it. I remember trying to watch son's apex stream yesterday and it took 20 refreshes for it to start. Susan fucked up hard yesterday.
>>20933947
So, is the thread not going to criticize cover for announcing holostars weeks before they debut and then just a few days later debuting holoid3 and stealing the attention?
>>20937787Anon...
>>20937787militaria and weebshit are on the same layer of autism, as demonstrated by girls und panzer and the 150 military gachas.
>>20933388https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1506832784706342912
>>20938341i don't care
>>20937787/k/ommandos and weebs are often one and the same. Especially in Japan. I don’t understand why this is surprising to you. Why do you think KanColle was such a big thing? Girls und Panzer? Upotte?
>>20938390>holoId gen 1 is going on vacation until April3D debut confirmed
>>20938341for the millionth time, a ton of the holofanbase couldn't give less of a shit about the fucking homos
>>20934958Sauce?
>>20938390Well, it's confirmed then. So I assume they already have their own 3d studio in Indonesia
>>20938237>>20938265What do your comments have to do with my rebuttal of his dumb argument?
>>20938480Fuck off newfag
>>20938144That reminds me, Kiara very briefly brought up 3D today and then caught herself and said she's not gonna leak anything.
is one of them gonna be a rich ojou like Reine again? also, the odds of one of them getting doxxed are low now that Reine is in.
>>20938341I can agree it's a weird strategy. I wouldn't have done it this way. But the fanbase overlap probably isn't that strong, so maybe it's fine?Honestly I think Stars is just mostly a lost cause to ever get main-branch numbers. Hololive is too strongly associated with the CGDCT idol stuff, their fanbase doesn't want to watch men so they're starting from square zero. If Yagoo can make it work I'll kneel forever but I wouldn't put money on it
>>20938504You're indirectly implying that WoWs and Azur Lane is the same genre.
>>20935737Yaassshh queen! You tell them
>>20938567>Rich as fuck weeb>Powerful clanAnon, you would be hard-pressed to find another one like Reine
>>20938341>/#/ doesn't give a fuck about HoloStars>/#/ gives a fuck about HololiveI don't think so. The most that they will get is a cursory discussion around their potential future value and their current lack of audience.
>>20938341Of all the branches the overlap between ID and the homos is the biggest so maybe they're trying to use the hype from ID3 to funnel into the homos.
>>20936731Kek i'll seethe if he ever illust a holo
>>20937012I’m gonna say it! RIGG—
https://twitter.com/yui_hizuki/status/1506857568354062339>Thanking people for doing archive reps on her debutquoting a post with her debut ccv was not enough.. she is really a numberfag...
This girl needs to relax with the numberfagginghttps://twitter.com/yui_hizuki/status/1506857568354062339
>>20938643>inb4 Yagoo finds another rich ID that's on the opposite faction as Reine's. now, this is real drama. none of your baby "boyfriend" doxx. real people will be killed in order to obtain power.
>>20938598I didn't even come close to remotely implying that. The implication is that weebs do play such games was WoW by pointing to the already existing collabs with properties that are extra weeb.
>>20938747>>20938752based
>>20938747>>20938752make up your mind /#/
>>20938341nobody cares about the homosthe thing is they should have announced this in holofes insteadthere is no reason to announces it in this weird timingbut most likely it was cover trying to cover up Subaru's fuckupsnow barely anyone talk about the issue anymore
>>20937073>AmeThat's out of nowhere
>kronii almost 6k superchat readingaaah do more buff content you blue bitch, you could be EN's second most watched girl
>>20938747>>20938752The schizophrenia of /#/...
>>20938752No, a little numberfagging works and shows your fanbase you take your job seriously. If you want fans to watch your VODs and MVs, tell them to. If you want them to like and subscribe and smash that bell tell them to. Just do it with a reasonable amount of restraint so it doesn't impact your content quality. I like to see it.
>>20938722the homos debut first 7pm and 8pmID is 10pm
>>20938341>announce homo during holofest>got traction>dropped holoID and debut them immediately>Built the hype>and channel it to UPROAR next week
The trailer is stuck at 6.6k views. What the fuck
>>20938671>>20938477>>20938826NTA but this thread would be cumming at the chance to shit on Riku if he made this decision and was "not supporting new livers" by completely burying a new group
>>20939029?They're literally debuting them 2 hour apart of each other
>>20939029These people always doubt Yagoo. Has he done anything wrong when it comes to promotion?
>>20939133HoloStars
>>20939074Newfag, Ranunculus debut discussion was last week
>>20939074because we actually want holostars to get axed, nijis are coed already
>>20939108Even better
>>20939074What do you mean? Didn't he do that to the NijiENs already by not letting them build a core audience before dropping in more? I hear the unicorns got BTFOd off of their thread /here/ even...
>>20938341They don't have any audience overlap because of language and gender, are from different branchs, and the star will probably only collab with other star members anyway so it won't matter much.
>>20939108The homos are debuting NEXT WEEK, dumbass
>>20938643>>20938757Reine's love for Hololive is about to fix a 60 year faction war.
man, hopefully there is no big overlaps at the time so nips can watch it too
Well
>>20939378does anyone remember how much HoloX had in the same time period as this new id gen
Marine gold?https://youtu.be/e4XY4n8GcPg
>>20939378Oof
>>20939425it's just a reservation, could be anything
>>20939378good, bury the homos
>>20939425If it's that new Chilla's then sure
>>20938942>>20939108What the actual fuck are you guys talking about?ID3 are 25-27th 10PM JSTUproar are 29-30th 7-8PM JST
>>20939459>>20939508A normal talking stream could get gold.She will mostly talk about ID 3.
>>20939510>>20939322fuck me i'm dumb
>>20939510Id3's first full Collab will promote the new stars
https://youtu.be/1RUCtS3jVRMUnarchived karaoke from IRyS
If Holostars make # seeth this much, I might check it out.
Gura's Enemy cover all reach over 400k views from different clipper channel
>>20939074kek exactly. it's very hipocrite
>>20939601
>>20939378fucking kek. congratulations to all parts involved. Sasuga Yagoo
>>20939841korean one was around 60k yesterday
>>20939813about to find out why they're shit and they deserve to get axed, they're boring as shit
>>20939986Yagoo isn't like Riku who would can branches because of low numbers
>>20940053Holy ESLchama
>>20940128...
https://youtu.be/JqDqA9AsydgNo matter where you go, this smol ame is getting numbers
>>20940128English is fine anon
>>20940194My recommends have been lit up by smol ame clips and compilations
>>20938747our girl
>>20940128"Can" used in this context is to remove/fire ESLchama.
>>20940194>300kjesas
>>20940128Nice try, bitch
>>20940128Uh, where do you think it is ESL? Because that sentence was correct the last time I checked.
>>20939739IRyS using the Mumei strategy. I like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XlNdpKdLAIThis Smol Ame clip sitting is also getting tons of views
>>20940128Anon, your English reps ...
>>20939378no...
>>20940053HoloCN didn't exist after all
>>20940398israel
>>20940511>low numberread again
>>20940527>>20940398I KNEEL
>>20940527Is this collab big? It's been a while since I saw customized voice lines in WoW.
>>20940641No,If they get custom ships tho, THAT would be big
>>20940527>>20940609cringe vtuber
>>20940698success breeds jealousy
>>20940698ew anon you still find things cringe kimoi
>>20940674Then what's the point, Hololive is only worth a tiny collab like this.
>>20940698Based
>>20940836Because Wargames pays big money?
>>20940858success breeds jealousy
>>20940698I agree
>Be Chilla>Gives perms to Hololive back in 2019/2020>Holomembers incline to the moon through game clips reactions>Does not give a fuck about any Holo yabs>Free promotions from Hololive with 10-40k ccvI know his games are cheap and people aren't like to buy his game when jp streamers are all playing it, but man, this guy gets tons of promotions none other game devs do and it make his brand big.
>>20940964it's like toby fox
All hit 20k. They been pretty close so far.
>>20940527>>20940609I thought Vox would get a sponsorship, even as a voice announcer. What happened, nijibros? Don't tell me Luxiem is gonna be sponsored by some chinese mobage?
>>20940964I imagine the VS dev was also happy, he kept retweeting Holos playing his game iirc.
>>20941031>people like the white design moream i out of touch? it's the most generic one of the 3
>>20941031Huh, I thought Kaela would be leading.
>>20941081Most people are normies, but it is cool.
>>20941081Vanilla is bestilla, simple is best, yadayada... something like that
>>20941081>>20941098>keqing-likethere's your answer.I too like Kowalski better
>>20941098You a Digimon fan?
>>20941081Generic doesn't mean bad you know?
Oh wait, Mika had a 100k celebration two days ago after a 6 month grind. What are the chances that ID3 breaks 100k after debut?
>>20941133maybe this is why mito is top of nijisanji
>>20941211pretty much guranteed, probably would hit 100k predebut if Susan doesn't get too uppity
>>20941031Wonder if those shorts on each channel will deter the eventual sub cull every holo goes through
>>20941098Kaela has the one-san design. She won't be #1.
>>20941033Do you think his audience would play this game?
>>20941296Not really. NijiEN already tried that.
>>20941211They will reach it before debut. 200k minimum
>>20941296Not if I keep the shorts engaged with comments every hour
>>20941031Which one will speak in mostly indog?
>>20941441Me
>>20940128
>>20941211Pretty sure they can hit before debut unless Susan cut them, ID2 hit their and Ollie even got 200k on her debut iirc
>>20941355True, but their cull was significantly less than EN2 iirc. What was the final cull amount on each council channel again?
So apparently some homo beggars are mad at Gura. When Gura was shilling the HoloID announcement some of the beggars in her chat were spamming that she talk about the new Holostars too and Gura just ignored them, lmao. Based Gura.
>>20937073This is not the fucking time for Hololive to do a collab with Wargaming. That shit will be X'd. Their main studio is in Minsk.
https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1506869404965158924
>>20940964Looking at the list of thanks in the credits they get some good funding from a lot of vtuber fans.
This we follow this timeline, can we expect ẺN3 to debut in July or August?
>>20941649PEANUTS-KUN
>>20941603Didn't she also say something like "of course they are cool...........the are girls"
>>20941649holy shit peanuts-kun
>>20941668That's a good cycle he has.
>>20941394Unlikely. Only ollie reached 200k during her debut stream and that was when everyone has massive subs growth before youtube has subs cull
>>20941649thunkful
>>20941603it's not the first time, they have tried superchatting before also and she skipped over it
Move when ready>>20941607>>20941607>>20941607
>>20932682Holostars aren't HololiveJust like Yumenographia isn't Nijisanji
>>20941668Not just vtuber fans but vtubers themselves too. Pretty sure I saw Gatchman, Tamaki, Elipha, Belmond, and others in the credits of the most recent Chilla
>>20941784>page 8I HATE YOU SO MUCH
>>20941784kys
>>20941731Yes, but she called them cute, not cool.
>>20941649WTF PEANUTS-KUN ?
>>20941603Gura will be the last HoloEN to ever collab with the guys, they're barking up the wrong tree bigtime
>>20941835>>20941845B-but, anons like early thread
>>20941603Shark too based, one day homobeggars will realize that Gura joined hololive to have female friends
>>20941784fuck off, please
>>20941731>>20941848>of course they're cute, they're girlswhat is this tumblr in 2013
Why do people keep making new threads early?
6 clips of Gura reaction to ID3 at the moment.
>>20941603These people are more annoying than those "unicorn" they despise.
>>20942096some schizo was really pissy about being called out by making the thread too early when we still were midway through page 10, so he's been making the threads earlier and earlier
>>20941603
>>20942155Im the one who make the thread. It's because you fuckers keep using those early threads so i make them earlier
>>20942142I thought she was super generic but yeah her design is good, hoping for a good personality.
>>20942180i hate all of them
>>20942180Yikes.Where is this from?
>>20942205but you're making it worse anon
I wonder which side has more people, the pro male-female collabs or the unicorns?
>>20941603Rrrat? There's always hundreds of comments in Gura's chat. How many of these homobeggars were there? Where are they seething now? or is this another "chumbuds totally raided Fubuki" because of a few morons?
>>20934107just check the new HoloID channels, half the comments are from JPs
>>20942180>says they should collab>will only watch a clip of said collab once it does happen
>>20941784never give up anon
>>20942308https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RrXWeFczGo
>>20942346by sheer numbers the first ones, but they're also they ones more likely to be disloyal fucks who don't spend money
>>20935508> Nijisanji's newest all-female wave> comparison is with indie numbershow the mighty have fallen...
>>20942346The homo beggars because they consist not only of people trying to prop up holostars, but also people convinced holos like Pekora/Gura/Aqua are fucking DYING to collab with males but le toxic idol culture is preventing them. I fear what will happen when ENshits get released and Gura ignores them or only gives a few token comments.Hopefully they can mental gymnastic their way out of that one and convince she lives in fear of her fans but she still would totally do it any moment if she could.
>>20942346a company only cares about who gives more money
>>20942180That's a shitton of typing that could have been used to, lets say, watch Aruran's stream right now and help contribute a view or two
>>20939378iofi traced vestia's hair
>>20942507Shitton of time wasted on typing*
12k IRySNot Mumei numbers but pretty damn good for an unannounced karaoke at 2am EST.
>>20942498Ame, Ina and Gura is grounded. They don't fall for such trickery and yabs. Only Calli and Kiara does that. Funny how two of the members who lived in JP knows little on when to cross the line.
>>20942535Completely different
>>20942498Need that Spider-Man and Sauron pics
>>20942398They don't even watch stars clips
>>20942498If EN management tries to integrate the ENhomos similar to NijiEN then they will probably have Gura bend the knee to at least one ENhomo collab whether she wants one or not.
>>20942689>>20942180
>>20941649Based Unity fennec.
>>20942498Why are you so confidently and triumphantly announcing Gura won't collab with them or subscribes to the same view as you. It's some "no way my oshi will do that" shit that makes you look like a moron.
>>20942885I wonder what would happen if this image actually got popular on twitter
>>20940589I remember Artia and Civia talking about them not making enough in the branch for it to survive. We could blame KR for the bully shit as well but we know its mainly from performance.
>>20942717They unironically might but I figure Gura will just ignore them after. Collab beggars aren’t Gura members and don’t know just how deeply entrenched into the idol image and to some extent GFE. I still don’t understand quite why last samurai types hate her (probably the large number of retards in her casual fanbase and excessive dick swinging by numberfag chumbuds in the early days) because in many ways she’s at the top with Ina in terms of being JP-like, minus a few points I will admit.
Look who comes out of hibernation to welcome the new ID gen.
>>20942960You obviously don't watch Gura. She gushed for 20 minutes about ID3, discussed each of their designs, watched the release announcement, etc. She absolutely ignored any mention of Uproar. I've watched almost every Gura stream and I think I vaguely recall her mentioning the name of a Holostar like once, for about 3 seconds.
>>20942960He's working on the educated assumption that because Gura doesn't even bother indulging Homobeggars beyond cursory comments that she might treat them as outsiders just like she does actual outsiders like Nijis, Shojos and others...
>>20942346I think the male-female male-male shippers are the cancer that's killing vtubing. I think these are the same people that would want romance be included in any story whether it's appropriate or not. They are promoting a very toxic culture and should be completely ignored.
>>20942988Post it in response to EVERY homobegger shit you see on Twitter with a burner account, let it be seared into EVERY discussion.
>>20942960Get her membership, unironically. Her core audience, or at least the core audience she panders to are those looking for GFE and increasingly idolfags as of late.
>>20943096They are used to Luxiem and Noctyx I guess.
>>20942180they're as deranged as shippers
>>20942717anon nijen is likethat because they are in the same agency, same to any other branch
>>20943074She tried the degenerate anime girl, like so many of her contemporaries, as HER and it made her a depressed alcoholic. She is much happier as a seiso Idol shark. Hololive probably legit saved her life, lmao.
>>20942600She's the English V-singer and she has 200k more subs than Mumei. I would not call that pretty good at all.
>>20942960So where are the tweets, retweets, follows and mentions of Holostars that aren't literally forced into her face officially to answer like that one panel?
>>20943080I only remember mentioning Astel when asking about who's the biggest Disney guru in Holo. And one is during the expo panel when seeing Izuru's clip and said he's cute. That's all I know.
>>20943223Not just them, Nijisanji is filled with male-female shippers. That's primarily the reason why I stopped watching Nijisanji because these shippers are very toxic.
>>20940527https://youtu.be/M4Qg-1BRP6w?t=89> OH NO NO NOkek this will be useful
>14kWhy even schedule shit?
Shorts update>Vestia 10k>Kaela 8k>Kobo 9k
>>20943223Those are the cancer breeder of vtubing world
>>20943096>TheyAnon, het and fag shippers are almost overwhelmingly one gender: WOMEN.Just say it: an influx of WOMEN into vtubing is cancerous to the medium as it currently exists, and either they get cunt-punted back to fringe or they very well could end up muscling their way into more than just a fringe. They're a very loud, very obnoxious part of the fandom and need to be routinely suppressed lest their opinions run amok. IMO I say the same with heavy /u/ shippers too.
>>20943096If you want female and male collab so much go watch nijisanji, Holostars and hololive will always be separate branch. These ppl don't even watch stream. I'm glad that uproar will be more female pandering this time.
>>2094327914k now and you are a fag. Subs don't matter and its obvious Mumei is more popular than IRyS you dolt.
>>20943279That's extremely good numbers for her especially that it's already past midnight.
>>20943201I wouldn't even call gura GFE but she at least understands that she gives happiness to people that don't have that many, she is in the same spot as Korone why would you sacrifice this for 2 hours of a male collab making people that support you sad?
>>20943312Vestia has the best design, not surprised.
>>20943331I don't think so. Nijisanji's main target audience are shipperfags, which includes males.
>>20943331Make sense, look what happened to NijiEN thread once the male wave arrived.
https://twitter.com/ayunda_risu/status/1506879227198849026>risu finally taking advantage of the hype around IDtook you long enough you damn treerrat
>>20943339That's the reason why I don't watch Nijisanji anymore because I hate their community which is filled with shipper fags.
>>20943253I mean, she’s let loose a bit on her degen side, she’s a tease but it is true she’s way happier now and is dedicated to the image. For fucks sake she still pauses before saying a profanity when not raging. She’s been at this for more than a year and a half now. Hearing her sob about Hololive and idols I would be very surprised if she went the NijiEN route. At most she’d be like Foobs and try to saviorfag the Homos but I only say that because she’s a nice girl.
>>20943397>Gotta owned those idolfags>Not gonna watch streams or SC tho KEKW
>>20941788NIJICOPEDRINK
>>20943307Lol.
>>20943471Still no stream until april tho
>>20943279RATIOCOPEDRINK
>>20942960i'm so sorry that your fantasy of calling chumkeks cucks will not get fulfilled this time around
>>20943096I don't really care about shipping but please don't just randomly come to the stream if it's not planned. Especially member stream.
>>20942960Gura is a straight woman that wishes she was gay.
>>20943594How the fuck is expecting the member who was specifically hired for singing to perform well in numbers for karaoke (at least better than Council) "RATIOCOPE"?
>>20943624But that's basically their thing though. They want to please their shipper audience that's why they do that all the time.
>>20943624I kek-ed at that. Seriously, I think solo streams in NijiEN are rare these days.
>>20943660Noel beats AZKi in karaoke all the time.
>>20943624Sounds terrible. I hope homobeggars take a good look at NijiEN now and reconsider their life.
>>20943433Anon, no. That's very wrong. NijiJP's fanbase is very mixed, and while there are some shippers, they by and large don't make up the bulk of their audience except for maybe a few specific fanbases that have gone hard on that aspect.Unless you mean Luxiem, but then we're circling back to it being majority women again.
>>20943660Because "these impressive numbers aren't impressive because [RATIOCOPE]"
First, alban now Sonny has a gura meme emote? Why are they being copycats when the whole reason Gura's "Oh nyo" works is because she's cute and she has a cat costume.
>>20943775If Mori had 15k for an unarchived karaoke would you be like "wow, that's amazing!"?
>>20943836yes
IRyS at 15k
>>20943731Dude, homobeggars always see Nijisanji as the flag ship of vtuber group, "Look at the chemistry, the dudes all get nice popularity". I don't mind male/female collab, but those homobeggars are all living in their weird ethic fantasy.
>>20943831Nijiniggers cant meme, streamer reflect their fanbase... something like that
>>20943397Anon, search deep within your heart, you know it to be true. You’re telling me her ASMR streams, especially the valentine’s one and also her very candid zatsus are not leaning heavily into GFE? I do agree though that much of her drive is the support she gets from fans, retards will call her fake but I don’t believe it. I wonder if that is partly how she’s been so successful.
>>20943471>Huge Holofes buff>New gen announcement buff>Rarity buff (Treerat actually singing!!)10k possible for Risu?
Fucking finallyhttps://twitter.com/ayunda_risu/status/1506879227198849026?s=21
>>20943767A large majority of these people are definitely shipper fags.Just look at Vspo FPS thread and see a glimpse of what happens when a male-female interaction is tolerated in the box.Nijisanji is plagued with this problem.
>>20943884>Guys since im happy im gonna spare /#/fags for tonight and do a buff streamI hate her so much
>>20943879Maybe around 7-8K
>>20943878I think the key for Gura is, she doesn't hate her target audience, because she's also the target audience, unless it cross her line like that ring fit sex animation.
>>20943836Karaoke tiers (personal opinion)>Sad, pathetic tierSub 2k>Mediocre shitter tier>2-5k >That's alright tier5-10k>That's pretty good Tier10-15k>Really good tier15-20k>Really damn good tier20-30k>Goddesses of Hololive tier30k+Yes, unarchived of course is a buff, but they happen often enough nowadays that it's not 'nearly' as big as a gigabuff as it used to be.
>>20943865Fuck these shipper fags, bro.
>>20943831The fuck? Why don't they make a Smol version as well to complete the circle of plagiarism?
>>20939074see >>20941788
>>20943865Somehow I feel homobeggars feel threatened when female perform better than their male counterpart. Do we have similar begging towards popular male chuuba to collab with bottom tier female chuuba happening in Niji?
>>20943831Because they want to associate themselves with Gura and please their shipper fag audience.
>>20943831I can't believe you were mad enough about that thread to post this. He didn't steal the joke. Gura Nyo isn't a unique joke and wasn't even funny in the first place
>>20943996Are Gura, Suisei, and Marine the only ones who can regularly hit 30k on karaoke?
>>20943949Loud minority that's infested the fanbase. It's what needs to be bullied out of HoloPro before it can take hold. The vast majority of Nijisanji's fanbase is more touristy and only pops up for events.
>>20944069Fuck off, shipper fag. Tell your homos to stop leeching off Gura.
>>20943497Even fking towa don't collab with holostars, no one calling that bitch out??? Since she always collab with her male friends. It's idol culture fault, these ppl man.
>>20943831I don't see that as an issue, basically show that they will always live under the shadow of Gura. Like how Shylily also use shrimp as one of her gag.
>>20939202>we
>>20944069sour grapes the post
>>20944094Yea, they're the only ones nowadays that can hit 30k+ with a karaoke (exceptions being things like the Christmas relay of course).
>>20943972Definitely, she’s an idolfag or at least presents herself as one and knows enough to know how to pander to idolfags and the like. If she isn’t genuine she at least puts in an autistic amount of work to do market research.
>>20944148(You)
>>20944131Not really. Towa don't want to attract shipper fag audience that's why she doesn't collab much with the boys. She only collabs with them when it's needed. I think the shipper fag community is slowly destroying Nijisanji that's why you see a huge discrepancy between the viewers of their male and female members.
>>20944042No.
>>20944042At risk of sounding like some sort of MRA, I really think it's just because they hate the target audience. Hololive has a majority-male fanbase watching because they're cute women who sing nicely and stuff? Wow, male gaze, that can only be bad. Entertainment intended primarily for men is bad and has to be destroyed. It's just another extension of an ongoing trend to demonize that kind of thing.
>>20944042no since Reimu sucks Vox's cock daily already
>>20944212speak for yourself
I want male collabs in HoloEN because I want them to die. Their numbers would plummet as IRySfags an hero and Ina gachi try to suicide bomb Cover.
>>20944173I mean, her PL has experience with male collab, so it's her own choice. That's why i see those homobeggars are the same as unicorns, they are all control freaks.
I think it's a big mistake that Chigusa attracted a shipper fag audience. They will only watch her streams if it's a collaboration with a male vtuber.
>>20944306It will just be Bae and Mori. They might also drag Mumei along since she got dragged into that Holostars Gartic Phone thing.
>>20944319Chigusa should collab with Toko and Suisei
>>20944261No him (or you), but your point is one aspect of it. Idol culture has a really negative perception in the west, mainly propagated by media which thrives primarily off of negative press of anything.
>>20944319I think it was just the Apex buff for Japs.
>>20944306>>20944388yeah just like how rushia gachis would firebomb holofes, right?
So any ID fubuki potential???? ID seriously need a subaru and fbk. No more menhera iofi and boring moona!
>>20944388Mumeifags and Faunafags wouldn't be bothered by it to begin with, IRyS and Ina have the most unicorns.
>>20944319I mean>Female in Nijisanji>Old as fuck game>JRPGIt isn't easy to carry
>>20944417They did. Smol Ame shot them all.
Nijisanji fans is definitely not kind to this female vtuber cause she's currently not streaming with a male. I think it shows how dominant the shipper fags are in Nijisanji fanbase.
>>20944417If you even did 5 minutes of Rushia reps you'd never be a unicorn and still like her. Kanta is probably the biggest unicorn magnet in Hololive.
>>20944408it's because the west, particularly the US have a really negative (and honestly childish) view of restrain
>>20944401Won't happen because they knew each other since Chigusa's PL
>>209438798k at best, have to see who else is on tonight. Also if she mess around like all the other time then number would stall.
>>20943201They were like that fairly early on because of all the e-celebs publicly pestering Gura. This was when Twitch was banning streamers for sexually harassing/assaulting female streamers.
15k IRyS!!
>>20944429Hai lofy/
How does twitter topic work?
>>20944618it just works
>>20944510>>20944306anon, do you picture Japanese idolfags as all being serial killers just like how people who don't know about video games think all gamers are secretly serial killers waiting for the right trigger?
>>20944587qrd?
>>20944408I think a lot of these fuckers are the kind that see themselves as saviors of humanity. To them, the girls are “oppressed” because fans won’t like the collabs which may be a fair point for some but the problem is that they see it as a blanket “everybody obviously wants to collab but can’t”. It’s like they see a sign saying “Please don’t walk your dog at this park” and think that everyone wants to walk their dog there, when some people would rather not. Seeing an opinion and conflating it with a unanimously agreed upon decision.
>>20944707No, but I do know they'd tune out, make sad/angry comments on basket weaving forums, and slowly lose interest in the hobby because of the knife their oshi left in their backs.
>>20942960We don't want to attract shippers. Just look at how cancerous Kpop and Nijisanji fans are.
>>20944563If she messes around, viewers won't stick in the long run as well. Please don't Risu...
>>20944788yeah, just like how Fubuki is a bottom feeder now because she collabs with Oga right?
>>20944408What foreign culture doesn't have negative perception in the west?
>>20944618>ころさんと一緒にAPEXデュオしてると本当にカッコよく優しくてドキドキしてしまうcute
>>20944836Oga's cool and she did lose viewers. She only lets people mentally romance her when she wants you to wank it to her ASMR, which hurt too.
>>20933861Lol no. The general approach ID goes with is a pseudo-English branch to maximize the potential audience they can get.
IRyS at 15k! That is actually what Mumei usually gets for her infamous karaoke streams. The last one getting 18k seemed like a bit of an anomaly.
>>20944836anon, her ccv drops to less than half her normal when she does and some damage stays for a bit
>>20944836Half of her fans disappeared when she collab with males tho.
>>20944836Where's the graph of a Fubuki stream before and after a holostar joined?
Irys 15 get.
>>20944950>>20944945>>20944974yes, but this is a far cry from >slowly lose interest in the hobby because of the knife their oshi left in their backs.all her highest viewed streams have been after her foxdemon collabs
>>20944587I’m confused, are you saying that’s where it started or that it was only at that point that they were idolfags because neither is true. Her early core audience was mostly EOP watchers of Hololive and the tourists that became part of her core audience got indoctrinated by her streams. You’re probably misattributing her early core audience’s distaste for ecelebs to Twitch drama when it was because these were the same people who were originally into HoloJP and converts. The core audience didn’t become idolfags because of ecelebs, they hated ecelebs because they were idolfags.
>>20943879If it's an actual karaoke and not acapella, yes.
>>20945020Poke autism was an anomaly and didn't reflect her real viewership levels.
>Risu spoiling her Karaoke listWeird, but okay. This is the first time I saw someone do this.
>>20944713The only one I really remember is AdmiralBahroo (the pseudo-vtuber getting cancelled right now ironically) having his chat send her superchats collab begging. And tweets apparently:https://twitter.com/admiralbahroo/status/1398696702434066433
>>20944437>IRyS and Ina have the mostIRyStocrats are scary. They are insane in their devotion.
Towa has really inclined. She's now consistently getting these numbers even if its not an Apex/Collab/Singing stream.
>>20945069which are still comfortably in the 10k range, which makes your assertion that collabing with males will result in a mass exodus of "true fans" a wild fantasy at best
>>20944713There are a lot of them, but OTV and CallMeCarson both bothered Gura for collabs and both got into some major sexual harassment scandal. AdmiralBahroo also bothered Gura and he's currently involved in some kind of manipulation drama with female streamers.
>>20945142please sing with ayunda voice, risu
>>20945162Fuck, not even subtle
>>20944429and cock sucker like risu
>>20938747>>20938752Emperor picked a good numberfag
>>20945223I don't think Sykkuno gets any sexual harassment charges scandal.
The numbers for this afternoon is kinda huge even without a Vspo girl streaming.
>>20945178I'm not her member but I understand why. She is absolutely adorable.
>>20942960gura is only here strictly for CGDCT. she'll do collab song with homos if there's something interesting but actually streaming? fat chance. unless they have a cunny otokonoko
>>20945338Sykkuno didn't bother gura for a collab though, he's just a fan
>>20945338Not yet.
>>20945142Weird, I do see some HoloJP mention what song they are going to sing in their description and has link to instrument. But never saw ID or EN do it. Maybe to build hype ?
>>20945378I think it was Scarra(?) who did the begging on his behalf.
>>20942960Gura in general is probably the most isolationist in all of EN in terms of who she talks about and collabs with.
>>20945162i kinda remember that sc. it was on one of the solo dbd stream last year. at least it was an akasupa.
>>20945358>debuted 4 days ago>2.1k
>>20945338But Sykkuno respect Gura unlike others, he got his scarf drawing from Gura and he's happy and that's it (and they knew each other way before).
>>20945044I fucking despise ecelebs and vwhores but I am not idolfag. I don't mind them collabing with males but only when it happens organically. Maybe a singing collab or cover collab.
>>20944429Unironically Reine, great at solo and collab, still need to work on her unity rep to be fbk though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7675fsRtoB8Risu even did the preview thing with her original song. Is Risu finally waking up!!
>>20945178Its 3 AM and have work tomorrow, got my priorities straight for IRyS.
>>20945420https://twitter.com/scarra/status/1322823757971402752?lang=en
>>20945430Mansanji...
>>20945459That's what Fubuki said, there needs to be an incentive to collab, you can't force it.
>>20945480Moona probably told her to do it.
>>20945378Fan? More like a twitch groomer. Most of these guys/girls just wants that hololive fame. Thank god for collab ban.
>>20945430I bet she's gonna be a 3view in under 10 streams.
>>20945459That's my stance. Don't beg for collabs and let the talents decide if they want to or not, and why collab beggars need to get the rope.
>>20939170Too much effort wasted for such a branch i agree.
>>20945338some otv founder guy tried to rape a girl at their streamer house and people who live in the same otv house like scarra kept trying to contact gura.
>>20945508How to fuck can you drag someone else with you? Fucking leeches
>>20945338Sykuno is just a "closeted" Gura fan to my knowledge. He drops hints every now and than that he got Gura merch but most of the time it's his friends mentioning him liking Gura and teasing him for it.
>>20943096all shippers are cancership pandering has also stopped since holos realized that problemNoeFure has been diluted by NoeShubaFubuMatsuri is deadMatsuLuna is deadHaaWata is deadKanaCoco is dead (literally)AquShion is dead (mostly because Shion doesn't stream that much though, and the Kusogaki vibe)PekoMiko is dead (explicitly stated to be due to shippers)The only "ships" that are even remotely alive are ShubaLuna, Micomet and any harem-type ships (OkayuxAnyone, MikoxBlondes).And again, SubaNoel and SubaOka dilutes both ships, and MiComet is explicitly business.There's probably an entire branch of management dedicated to handling shipfags.That's how cancerous they are.
>>20945529Yeah just like all holofans are incels and serial killers in the making right?
>>20944494Isn't that good for a NijiID though?
>>20945449>and they knew each other way beforeNo one is sure about this, all the "proof" we have is a pic of her PL follow him on twitter which mean jack shit and now pp just repeat it like a fact.
>>20945611It's mid
>>20945529You forget that Sykkuno and Gura's PL follows each other on twitter.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1506889338495598596
>>20945607Turns out fans have no power while streamers get an inflated ego and abuse their power.
>>20944520Western world loosened their leash on their women and now they're destroying their culture.We SEAchads can only hope it doesn't spread.
>>20945611When indies like Mythia Batford could get way higher numbers than that, I don't think that's good enough.
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1506888544811331585
>>20945641Yes. I also know that people here think following male = she's getting dicked down everyday by him
>>20944408Idol culture has bad rep mainly because of shit contracts idols have with talent agencies that allow complete control over their lives, public and private. Of course that kind of abusive shit is all over entertainment industry everywhere, but if it's foreign, it's gotta be much worse.
>>20945188Don't look at her Okami numbers in a few hours though.
>>20945223>AdmiralBahrooI didn't hear about this, what did he do with Gura?
>>20945770no it's mostly because of the stories about idolfags stalking and killing their idols, same deal with gamers and gta
>>20945757What's the over/under on Rushia ebay merch value a year now? Should I cash out my 401k and go all-in on acrylic stands and engagement rings?
>>20945666>Ayame and MikoOh no no no this has yab potential. 35p are still pissed about her not leaving a message on the return stream.
>>20944261>Hololive has a majority-male fanbase watching because they're cute women who sing nicely and stuff?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>20945607Twitch's current meta is to leech and farm views for LSF content. They are the bottom feeders of entertainment industry. As a guy who religiously watched Twitch before just chatting faggotry comes out, current Twitch is the fucking cancer of livestreaming. Fuck that and fuck everyone who wants to push Hololive and vtuber to join that fucking cesspool.Before you put a counterargument that Holos are also streaming there, they are streaming with a specific criteria in mind. Mostly for watchalong and now they're trying out FPS/esport esque games stream there. They're not participating in the current Twitch culture.
>>20945757Can you fuckers stop dropping links without any word? It's a reminder of Rushia's merch btw
>>20945813Well that and that akb48 shaved head photo that permanently damaged the idol industry's rep in the US.
>>20945808It was a long time ago, this tweet >>20945162 + one of his fans SCed her about Bahroo wanting to do a DBD collab.
>>20945770It's absolutely hilarious that people complain about Idol Culture in the west when Celebrity Culture in places like Hollywood is just as bad if not worse in some cases.
>>20945597That's just on the JP side too. on the En Side, the entire Baerys thing is played heavily for comedy, and Takamori is dead.
>>20944871All of it, including western culture itself. Mostly because people fail to separate culture from same shitty human behavior present everywhere.
>>20945886> 1 year agojesus, I guess all the twitchfags being unable to leech off them is what caused LSF and that side of the community to hate on them huh
>>20945666ginger ale ?
>>20945870Meanwhile the US had the Britney Spears breakdown.
>>20945739Anon, SEAfags are some of the most notorious shippers, the fuck are you on about?
>>20944319She's playing mother and only Nui is able to pull good numbers with JRPG in Nijisanji. Chigusa needs to play her strenghts so singing, apex and similar streams if she wants higher numbers.
>>20945529I'm honestly ok with Sykkuno, from what small things I've seen he tends to hide his power level and doesn't really bother her with collab requests, unlike other twitchfags.
>>20945853No, click the link retard.
>>20946038DON'T DO IT IT'S DOLPHIN PORN
>>20945947Nah LSF fag mostly forget about them, they're now hating on twitch vtuber though. If only people would realize the power of ignoring shit on the internet.
>>20943996Is there anyone but peko in the 20-30k range?
>>20945870I've heard of it, but I'm not sure if it's management forced her to do that, or she kneeled to unicorns herself because of threats she got. I hear conflicting accounts.
>>20945597which makes it surprising that Okakoro is still alive.Wonder if it's just the vibe of being wholesome rather than being romantic.
>>20945996Why do SEA people love shipping so much? Are they that starved for love?
>>20946100Read again
>>20944494Hyona pulls between 80-100 viewers. This is a big number for her, retard. at least look at past numbers
>>20946100Suisei got 80k the other day.
>>20945835
Ame, Ina, and Gura (and to the same extent Kiara) have avoided males collab for a year and a half. Why do people think that will change?No, language barrier isn't a problem for Ina and Kiara.Even Ame and Gura landed on some collab with holoJP if they really want male collab, they would've done it long ago already. Not sure about council tho, they're new.
>>20945991And the whole #MeToo movement which proved just how shitty entertainment can get.
>>20946125it's actually because korosan has been grooming okayu for like a decade
>>20945358You are my most hated anon. annoying as fuck and this is coming from someone who likes vspo
>>20945162I still remember last year during the VNUMA days since VNUMA tracked twitch that people were actually debating on if he had passed Kuzuha as the biggest male vtuber. Now he is getting cancelled, lmao.
>>20945934> Americans are hypocritesoh my, what a surprise
>>20946178>Why do people think that will change?Because the opportunities will increase and they'll feel the pressure to. As a life long HoloEN fan I'd love for them to explore.
>>20945641No, that never happened. Gura liked literally one his tweet 4 years ago on her old account, that's the extent of their interaction.
>>20946206success breeds jealousy
>>20946093is mouse ignoring the hate she's getting, or did she bring up on stream that she's getting hate messages?
>>20946225>t.
>>20943767Female demographics from Niji JP btw. Luxiem is mostly female... according to Mysta he has now 80% female on his channel.
>>20945739>SEAchadsAre we living in the same SEA?
>>20945813I don't even know of any incidents like that, only injuries.
>>20946243more like I know you are a holofag falseflagging into a vspo fan
>>20946270Pretty sure it's the later (once a top post in LSF), not sure cuz even though a have good will toward her, there's no way in hell i'm gonna watch her as long as she's in that circle.
>>20946206I hate you niggs too. The feeling is mutual.
>>20946316Nippleboi...
>>20945934Anon, where do you think modern Japan imported their pop culture from?
>>20946316Kuzuha really has mostly dudes watching him?
>>2094631620% are probably SEA and burger trannies
>>20946316Maimoto has like 3% of his audience is female.Luziem are an anomaly even in Nijisanji and that is why they work.
IRyStocrats, your oshi makes my pepe hard from singing...
>>20946316part 2
>>20946533She is amazing!!
>>20946490Yes. He has more females on the chronoir channel, but that's because it's a dedicated 'ship' channel.
>>20946533That's normal.
>>20946490Yeah, because he plays games. Kagami and Fuwa do too.
>>20946490have you seen kuzuha's stream content, in the last like half a year it's literally been nothing but Apex, Valorant, LoL and the occasional fotm game like Elden Ring, and it's always really long streams
>>20946533Now you understand why her split is the way it is.
>>20946316Kenmochi with 45% female viewers never will fail to surprise me considering he's a lolicon kek
>>20946102her fans weren't really a big fan of how far she went
>>20946670The biggest lolicons are women.
>>20946670his viewers are lolis
>>20945666>selling their pissyagoo has gone too far
>>20946547>Yashiro 15%>Ex Albio 10%>Maimoto 3.5%Yikes.
>>20946670Most lolicons are women
>>20946706Just because half of hololive are lolicons that doesn't mean they represent the female race.
>>20946765where the fembuds at?
>>20946738no idea why would you expect yashiro to be higher lmao, dude is a turbo autist
>>20946706I was about to say..like goddamnit, it's not as if some of the reactions of HoloJP members wrt lolis isn't well known...
>>20946795All the collabs. Maybe his solo streams are pure sausage fests but collabs should be more mixed.
>>20946789hang around in conventions, you'll find more than a few
twap & mio 10k !
>>20946798Flare will never cease to amuse me with it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmp1QkDOPqcI don't have the clip but there was that one con where they asked JPs to say something about Myth and all Flare had to say was something like "loli is the best" lmao.
>>20946490Kuzuha is pretty much a regular streamer. He makes fun of pandering and fujo constantly.
>>20945666>not SuiseiWhat a fucking disappointment
>>20946914can't believe they got to 10k with fucking splatoon 2, i was watching it for a bit and that gamemode they were playing is fucking awful
>>20946930And that is why he is based and Luxiem are pathetic disgusting whores.
>>20946966someone post suipiss
>>20947030go to the ringo thread
>sing "Despacito"What is wrong with SEAniggers?t. Spic
>>20947030https://youtu.be/UXAYy-KM8xk
>>20947080every time
>>20947059>seaniggersYou’ve answered your own question anon.
Shorts update>Vestia 18k>Kaela 11k>Kobo 9k
>>20947059It's a meme song.
>>20947189Homos…
>>20946169And that puts her above. I'm talking about specifically 20-30k, not above 30k (marine/gura/suisei).
>>20942180Jesas
>>20947316aqua and ayame usually fall in that range
>>20946100Plenty. Miko, Marine, Suisei Gura all can put out 30k stream consistently if they try. It’s just that Peko doesn’t have to try as hard
IRYS IS SINGING TITANIC
>>20946731Bro Pekora been doing that since forever
>>20947333It's just yt clips watcher , consider them to be like twitter tourist, they're in another tier of retard even redditor hate them.
>>20942988The collab beggars will try to justify themselves
I think slow songs are definitely the best for IRyS's model. Amazing rigging right there.
>>20947414Aye yes, Aqua....when she isn't doing nothing but Karaokes yes, otherwise she falls in the 15-20k range.
Is someone gonna make a new thread or are we using the earlyfaggot's thread?
>>20941607>>20941607>>20941607Migrate when ready
>>20945607Why yes! How do you know?
>>20947715>thread made at not even 3pm jst>almost 5pm jst and i can still post herei hate you fags so much
>>20947715>2 hours agono fucking way
So, how many songs has this Encore had now? Is the Encore going to be longer than the main portion of the karaoke?
>>20946922Lolis reminds woman of their younger self
>>20947970Thats the IRyS experience