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20854847 No.20854847 [Reply] [Original]

What went wrong?

>> No.20854877

>>20854847
>see top right of the picture

>> No.20854907

>>20854847
Why does niji like to vomit out new gens every 2 weeks? I didn't even have enough time to process their first male EN gen before they dropped this one

>> No.20854919

>>20854847
Niji run out of fujos and chinks

>> No.20855014

>>20854847
The talent is perfectly fine, better than Luxiem even. But they're the second batch and the market for them is already small

>> No.20856293

>>20854847 Everyone is flawed in some manner.
>Alban
Easily the strongest unit of the group in terms of stream presence, however his design without the coat is terrible. While he has been able to implement the whole "I look like a shopkeeper" gimmick in since his debut, most fan-art ignores his outfit. Even his glasses. New outfit is a must in the future to help the guy out.
>Yugo
It's been commented upon to death at this point. But in short, having a non-native English speaker, a female atop of that, as part of your second male wave was only asking for trouble. Japanese will continue to scope them out with a magnifying glass once they return from suspension next week.
>Fulgar
Wanted to be the edgy-bro that didn't abide by parasocial nonsense. Ended up showing his hand too soon and has swiftly become a soft teddy bear. His game choices are a little too plot heavy which can lead to dead air. More MM and less David Cage
>Sonny
Amazing debut, but he's seemingly typecast himself as the soft innocent sap instead since. I miss the energy and passion he had in those opening videos. Clearly wants to be a voice actor. Seemingly is a porn actor instead
>Uki
Much like Ike, he plays niche indies. Ike's are female favs, Uki's are obscure things Joel would randomly find on itch. Certainly glowing more in smaller colabs. In short, play more audience friendly games

>> No.20856608

>>20854877
Kek

>> No.20861657

>>20854847
males

>> No.20865015

>>20854907
Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks might as well be their entire strategy

>> No.20865365

>>20854847
there's more desperate lonely men in this world who enjoy the presence of a cute woman than there are southeast asian fujoshi who actively like vtubers and dont find them weird/gross with time to spare and wallets

>> No.20866696

All of Luxiem all sorta fell into a single niche of vaguely effeminate pretty-boys. Rather than diversify, they just tried it again. This is why successful corporate waves usually have more than one type of character. Nijisanji instead created two entire waves basically dedicated to a single appeal.

>> No.20866791

>>20866696
this, shoulda had a shots, a bara, and an oji-san and then maybe have two ikemen

>> No.20866862

>>20866791
shota*

>> No.20867085

>>20854847
>what went wrong
you were born in the Philippines

>> No.20872248

>>20854847
Trannysanji

>> No.20872287
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20872287

>>20854847
They're in shambles.

>> No.20876240
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20876240

>>20872287
Look fine to me

>> No.20876620

>>20876240
No no no you don't get it anon, if they don't have a gabillion followers 10 seconds after announcement and a jazillion viewers in every single stream then they're a complete flop! An immense failure!!!! Irredeemable!!!!!!

>> No.20877961

>>20854847
>males

>> No.20878076

>>20854847
Too many debuts

>> No.20878246

>>20854847
Nothing. Fulgar is great and I don't care about the rest.

>> No.20878372

Myth = Luxiem
Council = Noctyx

>> No.20879913

>>20878372
Noctyx wishes they could have council numbers lmao

>> No.20881270

>>20879913
Still, Cover kinda did bad not accepting males at all

>> No.20881310

>>20854847
They did not do as hot as AnyColor expected

>> No.20881666

because they are faggots and tranny?
literally vtranny

>> No.20884613

>>20854847
They're uninteresting to look at

>> No.20884661

>>20856293
You typed all this up and forgot to mention Sonny is the most popular one.

>> No.20885836

>>20866862
I don't know why they didn't have Yugo aim for this, both in design and voice. That said she isn't a good fit for EN anyway. She's too blatantly ESL for fluid conversation.

>> No.20888421

geymen and fagaronies

>> No.20888629

>>20854847
>Cat boy: A boring version of Mysta
>Japanese woman: Doesn't speak english, the fujos hate her
>Fungus: Just wants to fuck Sana and nothing else
>Sonny: A boring version of Shu
>Uki: Unironically the "gay is my personality" type of faggot, shell of a human, nothing interesting happens on his streams

>> No.20888977

>>20856293
>Fulgar
you forgot
>Only one in the discord leak to directly insult hololive talents and is now hated by everyone outside of those who don't know.

>> No.20889550

Really hope the upcoming Holostars EN follow the course of Holostars JP (and Niji's males) in terms of personality. I can't stand listening to faggots, the way they speak is just gross.

>> No.20889701

>>20888977
Fulgur is only hated by retarded dramafag holobronies who never would have watched him regardless. Literally no loss at all.

>> No.20889734

>>20854847
Nothing. Luxiem was the Myth of male vtubers and Vox is their Gura. They represent the absolute peak potential of male vtubing. It's only going to be downhill from here as the market gets more and more saturated.

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20889742

>implying anything went right

>> No.20890544

>>20854847
There was a transman in this all men wave

>> No.20890885

>>20888977
>discord leak
it's a nothingburger in everywhere but here

>> No.20891346

>>20854847
Honestly I just don't like any of them.
Alban is annoying and is constantly high and screaming.

Fulgar is okay and I'm growing in him, but he's still a man and not to my interests. He's probably my favorite of the males though.

>> No.20893073

>>20856293
Even putting aside that Yugo is heavily ESL and a woman, they're also just a really boring streamer. DMC5 is one of my favorite games, but Yugo's DMC5 stream legitimately put me to sleep. It was not a very good stream, and DMC5 hands a lot of free engagement to the streamer. This was extra embarassing because Yugo had allegedly played the other DMC games before.
>But that was a stream right after debut! You should give them another chance!
If you can't make BANG BANG PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER engaging as a streamer, even a first time streamer, find a different job.

>> No.20900569,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>20897145
>finana and petra plays mobile trash

I didn't know GTA 5, Yakuza 0, Song of Horror, etc. were mobile game trash. Finana does go pretty heavy on the gacha shit, but she does a variety of other games pretty consistently. She has more broad gaming interests than some of the others at least.

>> No.20895332

>>20854847
Yet they're still doing better than most of the girls..
I only like Fulgar and Sonny and Alban's ok, but there should have been a shota

>> No.20895804

>>20888977
Literally no one except dramafags care about it in /vt/ and no one cares about it at all outside of /vt/

>> No.20895862

>>20889701
>>20890885
>>20895804
Keep saying that nijibros, one of these days it might even become true

>> No.20896178
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20896178

>>20895862

>> No.20896223

>>20854847
They are boring solo
decent collab partners tough

>> No.20896544

>>20854907
>>20865015
As someone who entered this vtuber thing like 3 months ago I can't understand Nijisanji, hololives are easy to follow and get but Nijisanji just started with 50 characters and keep adding on it

>> No.20896599

>>20876240
How did you look at that pic, and could say
>Look fine to me
?
>Drawing Stream at 4.3k
>A collab at 3.2k
>A MC collab at 6.3k
The only acceptable one was the MC collab, which is still far behind the Luxiem partner (11.2k). Vox's solo stream was getting 8.6k there, and 17.8k today, for reference.
4.3k and 3.2k for drawing and collabs are only acceptable if you are indie. Those are pathetic for a corporate chuuba.

>> No.20896702

>>20895862
Ok dramafag.

>> No.20896978

>>20896544
The entire point is just that there's a streamer for everyone.
Want quiet asmr marathon streams? There was lulu. Or hayama. Or many others.
Want apex? You've got kuzuha and eru and many others
Want singers? You've got toko and Chima
Want dudebros? Lesbians? Fujos? Yaoibait? They've got you covered

Unlike hololive where there's some expectation you give a shit about everyone. In niji you just pick the ones that cater to your interest. If you're complaining about everyone play ark and minecraft it's because you're just watching the wrong streamers.

>> No.20897030

>>20896978
you say that, but then they go ahead and debut 10 dudes that are all cut from the same bishie pretty boy cloth

>> No.20897145

>>20897030
I assumed you meant nijijp.
Nijien is kinda dumb right now but they're building up to it I think.
But even within they have a nice spread of activities.
Selen plays action games, finana and petra plays mobile trash, pomu plays minecraft. Enna does her weird shit.

Still pretty samey but I think that was a casualty of them all debuting at the same time and trying to carve out a niche, and not having much to work off of. It'll gradually change if they keep the current pace.

>> No.20897228

>>20897030
EN is new retard,there are only 20 members there, and even then, I'd argue that they do more variety than most of JP.

>> No.20897350

>>20896599
NTA, but streamers are more than well-off even with 2k, I'm sure being affected by numberrot is detrimental enough, but how can you think 3.2k is bad? I say this as someone that watches fucking Flare of all people. Unless they're getting literal 3view numbers (They're not) then yes, it's "fine"

>> No.20897545

>>20897228
>No lolis
>No buff men
>No big boobed women
>No literal animal
>more variety than most of JP.
You are literally delusional

>> No.20897856

>>20897545
>no lolis
millie, Petra, rosemi
>no bigger boobed women
Elira, selen, Nina
>no buff men
To be fair shuu and luca are actually really buff, you just don't see it from his face.

>> No.20900569

everything

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