>talents actively want to collab with more popular media influencers >get tons of shit for it Is there any actual reason for this that doesn't sound like the pathetic whining of a virgin?

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Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:35:52 No.2084212 [Reply] [Original]

>talents actively want to collab with more popular media influencers
>get tons of shit for it
Is there any actual reason for this that doesn't sound like the pathetic whining of a virgin?

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:40:01 No.2084315
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>>2084212
None. I want them to create content that they like and will keep them interested in vtubing. If they are too limited, they will quickly lose the drive to produce content and future streams will degrade in quality until their inevitable early graduation.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:40:13 No.2084321 it would be much less of a problem if the ecelebs they collabed with weren't gargantuan faggots

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:41:07 No.2084336 >>2084321 this

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:42:00 No.2084355 >>2084212 It depends on who they collab with, because there's a tendency to attract the wrong viewerbase.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:43:10 No.2084381 >>2084321 >>2084355 This. Does anyone have that death of a subculture picture?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:43:47 No.2084394 >>2084355 everything's a minefield. Don't kid yourself or can you honestly tell me that there's a collab that won't attract Psychos 100%?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:44:12 No.2084402 >>2084321 This right here. Many ecelebs lack restraint and would likely try to get into divisive topics.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:44:54 No.2084413 >>2084394 yes, collabs within the same agency

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:45:15 No.2084425 >>2084402 Counterpoint: Cover can put heavy rules before they collab. Just like what they did here.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:46:03 No.2084446 File: 831 KB, 2404x1260, 1551583315220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2084381

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:46:16 No.2084450 >>2084413 >Implying (You) are not a psycho.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:47:14 No.2084474

It's just a bit of a weird uncharted territory. Vtubers exist 99% in the 2D Vtuber world, and for a lot of people any connection to 3D makes them feel "fake" or not fully committed, along similar lines as chuubas who also stream or post images of themselves IRL under the same name. There's also a danger of attracting the (potentially shit) fanbases of anyone the collab with.

Personally I had no issue with the Trash Taste episode, and IronMouse regularly collabs with CDawg without any issues; it's fine if they're reasonably careful and don't just collab with random popular e-celebs without considering the potential risks.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:47:51 No.2084491 >>2084425 That's true, but then you're trusting that eceleb not to fuck it up. I'm not entirely against it, but it's a lot of risk.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:50:22 No.2084571 >>2084446 Why does this have to revolve around pussy and sex? Many fanbases that didn't have any women whatsoever have also been destroyed by normies

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:50:37 No.2084575 >>2084381 >>2084446 Let's not lie to ourselves, HoloEN and even EOP-panderers like Coco are fully at stage 4 of this even without 3D e-celeb collabs.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:54:38 No.2084674 >>2084571 In this image's case, it's really about MtG/DnD, but it's the only "death of a subculture" image that came to mind and it applies the general principle which is once the normies get involved, it gets sanitized and loses its uniqueness.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:55:16 No.2084690 >>2084571 Because it's true

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 18:57:02 No.2084739 >>2084674 >MtG It's more Hasbro taking over than anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:02:54 No.2084843 >>2084425 They dont need to break the rules if they can just bend them

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:05:59 No.2084903

>>2084571
it doesn't necessarily have to happen for that particular reason, just whenever people get into something for any other reason than simple enjoyment of that thing, it tends to get ruined
especially when the people in charge start catering to them. So far I don't think that happened in hololive, but we all know it could potentially happen especially if the EN audience gets too big.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:08:39 No.2084953 File: 102 KB, 700x716, 1601276999545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2084212 >Wanting more normies in your hobby Talk to comic book fans about how that goes down

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:08:40 No.2084954 >>2084321 Alright, which western e-celeb isn't a gargantuan faggot?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:10:39 No.2084989 That podcast was the worst thing I have ever seen. I'm glad they decided to pretend it never happened

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:12:17 No.2085024 >>2084953 or video game fans

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:12:31 No.2085036 File: 179 KB, 300x420, 200% In Touch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2084571 Don't you know anon, everything's about sex. Except sex, sex is about power.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:13:08 No.2085049 >>2084212 You're literally the dudebro immigrant berating and chiding the original members in >>2084446 Fucking kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:15:09 No.2085088 File: 53 KB, 320x240, Smug Elf.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2084954 Moistcr1tikal is a very small faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:15:25 No.2085095 File: 292 KB, 1216x937, 1590613464974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2085024

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:18:27 No.2085155 >>2084446 Thanks! >>2084575 Yeah that's what I'm most concerned about. We're already approaching stage 4 in some areas.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:20:48 No.2085207 >>2084446 This image is retarded though because vtubing is neither a hobby, nor is it ever been niche at all Kizuna Ai went viral from the very moment she showed up, and Pekora is fucking 4th most viewed female stream of 2020

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:21:36 No.2085230 >>2085155 Gee whiz, anons. They're vtubers. If the trend started out on a different platform, it would've been okay to be whining like this, But YouTube? Total insanity that you people think something on it would stay niche.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:21:56 No.2085238 >>2084739 WotC is headquartered in Seattle and the head designer uses Tumblr as his primary social media account. It was ripe to be one of the first companies to turn to shit once Big Bang Theory fetishized nerd culture.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:22:44 No.2085258 >>2085207 >This image is retarded though because vtubing is neither a hobby, nor is it ever been niche at all Hololive has always had it's own culture though and that culture can be ruined when you start brute forcing western e-celeb shit into it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:24:22 No.2085302 >>2085155 In the case of vtubing Western SJW are going to be the problem, not normies generally.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:25:12 No.2085319 >>2085302 They are the same thing, just different flavours of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:25:45 No.2085340 >>2085302 SJW's are going to die out because the Gov't will turn on them any minute, once it's not profittable anymore.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:25:46 No.2085341

>>2085207
You may as well argue anime was never niche because DBZ or video games were never niche because Pokemon. The obvious reality is both have become radically more popular/normal in the west since the 90s, and Vtubers were similarly a much smaller niche pre-HoloEN. The very term "Vtuber" would have meant nothing to the average westerner a single year ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:26:22 No.2085358 >>2085340 SJWs don't need the government. They control the entire media and all the universities.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:27:46 No.2085391 >>2085302 >normies The only people who say "normie" are themselves normalfag redditors.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:28:43 No.2085416 >>2085340 >profit It was never about profit, anon. It was about control. >>2085358 You mean sJeWs

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:29:29 No.2085430 >>2085358 >>2085416 What brings you to /vt/, /pol/?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:30:25 No.2085457 yes those faggots are just incel and gatekeepers imagine if the whole community is more of those people how fucked would it be if so I wouldn't have watched vtubers in the first place

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:30:47 No.2085469
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>>2085340
SJWs are the most useful idiots that have ever existed. Literally just say the word "racist" and the rabid little shits will swarm anyone or anything the ruling class/CCP points their finger at. It would take bloody civil wars across the Western world to remove that tumor.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:30:53 No.2085471

>>2084903
>So far I don't think that happened in hololive
oh boy, have you taken a look at the absolute state of this board?
/vt/ is filled with newfags that don't remember events that happened a month ago. global is overrun by SEAschizos and kfp contrarians baiting each other to death. Your oshi's chat is filled with reddit-spouting whatever meme they heard over at coco's reddit review.

>>2085207
The virtual youtuber community had a decent size until Holo's gen4 debut. The reality is that only Ai got dedicated translators and when her yab happened, the west lost interest in vtubers.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:41:37 No.2085765
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>>2085258
>Hololive has always had it's own culture
It doesn't, Hololive "culture" is just fucking buzzword that means whatever you feel like it does at the current moment, I don't even think any of the 35+ members nor Yagoo himself could come to a singular agreement on what means
>start brute forcing western e-celeb shit into it.
This literally is just a cross-promotion between two brands, Hololive (Cover) and Trash taste (Kadokawa)
It's equivalent of a movie-star or a musician appearing on talk show, it's technically not even the first time someone from hololive interreacted with an "e-celeb" before pic related
>>2085341
>Vtubers were similarly a much smaller niche pre-HoloEN
Man, what? you're either completely delusional or are an ENfag who never paid attention to vtubers until they debuted
Clips of Fubuki, Korone, Pekora, Marine, Coco etc were going viral as far back as 2019
Vtubers in general have just been on a steady incline every since Ai first made waves

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:43:06 No.2085802 >>2084954 Darksydephil

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:43:38 No.2085809 >>2084212 Pewdiepie&Coco shitpost review How would people react?

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:45:37 No.2085850

>>2084212
I watch v-tubers to get away from all the drama fagging on the internet and Calli simping for Charlie who is just another dogshit drama channel at this point is just a step in the wrong direction.

I just want to turn my brain off and have fun without all the shit.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:48:28 No.2085911

>>2085765
I said "smaller," not nonexistent. It is undeniable that Vtubers have hugely blown up in the west in the last year or two, and the biggest events causing that rise were the Miko "nigga" clip and the EN debuts. Before that despite being a big trend in Japan it was mostly confined there and thus a niche to the rest of the world. I stand by saying that if you went around asking random westerners one year ago what a "Vtuber" is almost everyone would have no idea; now a good chunk would at least be aware of the concept.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:49:40 No.2085940

>>2085471
>/vt/ is filled with newfags that don't remember events that happened a month ago.
This just a byproduct of a new board creation, especially one as controversial as /vt/, I'll spare you /qa/ vs /jp/ saga and how those fags tried to piggyback off of vtubers only for it to blow up in their faces
Basically there are shit ton of tourist who have surface level knowledge of vtubers who come to here to gawk around

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:51:50 No.2085985 >>2084954 Does Internet Historian count?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:56:59 No.2086116 >>2085088 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 19:57:55 No.2086129 >>2085765 You're literally the dudebro in the meme. Have some self awareness

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:00:37 No.2086179 >>2084954 Speropatria, alerta judiada, dennis wise, the impartial truth, david duke

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:00:59 No.2086189 >>2086129 From: >Is there any actual reason for this that doesn't sound like the pathetic whining of a virgin? To: >you're the chad dudebro in my hobby, reeeeeeee deliberate reddit spacing _____ Ahhhh 4chan. Never change.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:02:00 No.2086202 >>2086129 >Have some self awareness Ironic, try leaving the 4chan circle jerk before you make broad statements about a genre you know fuck all about

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:03:35 No.2086238
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>>2086189
>Admitting you're a reddit tumor
>Post a thread "Hey guys shouldn't you welcome more cancer like me?"
>Get told to fuck off
>"Geez 4chan why are you so rude, I just want to improve your ebin hobby"

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:06:06 No.2086303 >>2086238 It's not healthy for any hobby or culture to whinge about cultural appropriation like that. If your hobby is so easily destroyed by normies, maybe you weren't so important to begin with

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:09:40 No.2086403 >>2085850 who is charlie?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:11:41 No.2086455 File: 799 KB, 1000x635, 1602375101978.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2086303 Thanks bro I've seen the light. I'm off to read some comics that were vastly improved by your people flooding in to the industry.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:13:28 No.2086509 >>2084446 The irony of holofags, especially ENfags, using that picture to make an argument. You are the outsiders.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:14:17 No.2086530 >>2086455 >MUH COMICS Op said no screeching from pathetic virgins

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:14:59 No.2086542 >>2084321 Yea basically this. Especially most people in the youtube anime community.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:15:02 No.2086543 >>2086530 >Stop posting examples of industries ruined by normalfags now let me into your hobby No, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:20:12 No.2086666 >>2084446 pretty sure the dude bro hired the whores to pretend to be anime girls to siphon money from the core audience if we're applying vtuber's context into this image

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:21:25 No.2086705

>>2084212
I personally don't like how a shit ton of people are becoming Vtubers just because it's trendy, but since I know this kind of shit is inevitable, I'd rather just watch the Vtubers I enjoy collabing with whoever they want to so we can have a good streaming atmosphere and ignore the attention whores doing it for moments of fame.
It's not niche anymore, and it sure as hell wouldn't be forever, so just let them collab with whoever they want so we can have content that they actually want to produce. Simple.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:26:18 No.2086862 >>2084212 im not here for the popular media influencers im here for them and stop bitching

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:32:40 No.2087082 >>2085258 how much influence do the fans really have in this though? I've seen fans beg for a ton of collabs and never get them. I feel like its still really up to the management/members themselves

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:44:04 No.2087407 >>2085049 >>2086129 >I'm gonna reply to another person with my shitty comic because nobody cared the first time and its obviously the gospel of Christ Get the fuck out. I can smell you with my eyes.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:49:52 No.2087584 >>2084446 100% accurate, holoen gonna be the death of hololive

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:50:48 No.2087611 >>2084446 You can tell this is accurate by how upset its making the normie golems

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:52:11 No.2087647

>>2084212
>Is there any actual reason for this that doesn't sound like the pathetic whining of a virgin?
No, because muh innocent waifu oshi is talking to dirty stinky men and she's laughing and i can't stand it. omfg don't touch her, i was going to see her one day and marry her, let me just send her another 100 dollar superchat and severely extort her response as an interest in me

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:53:57 No.2087713 >>2087647 >wants the benefits of being a pure idol >none of the responsibilities women

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:55:02 No.2087744 >>2084446 This falls apart when the commodity people are enjoying is another person with their own wants, needs, and desires.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:57:00 No.2087801 File: 18 KB, 915x455, 1616856840874.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2087713 anon, the vast majority of Hololive don't act like idols save for special occasion.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 20:59:24 No.2087864 >>2087801 >Don't act like idols Do you even know what idols act like?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:00:33 No.2087891 >>2084446 This but with EOPs in general.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:00:53 No.2087897 >>2087801 they don't talk about their real love lives or ravenous need for chad dick like 98% of real women streamers, so they still follow idol rules mostly

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:02:02 No.2087928 >>2084321 Bingo.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:03:14 No.2087952 >>2084212 /jp/ was right

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:08:57 No.2088090 >>2086543 how can 1 anon be so based?

Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:10:56 No.2088149

truth of the matter is this is nothing to get bent out of shape about. shit-tier vtubers will do shit-tier things. mori did that collab, and in it she proved to be exactly the kind of person who would want to do such a collab in the first place. nothing was really lost in the end

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:17:39 No.2088315 >>2087952 >/jp/ shits themselves and changes there name because they think Kiara is watching /jp/ will never have my respect

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:21:31 No.2088417 >>2084446 The last panel is quite accurate. The (founders) were 2D idolfags that jumped ship after that circle went to shit, and they started the vtuber circle on twitter/discord

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 21:34:41 No.2088799 >>2084321 This is the real reason desu

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 22:34:55 No.2090890 >>2084446 >gatekeeping parasocial autism

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 22:36:03 No.2090938 >>2090890 >wanting to spread parasocial autism to everyone McVtuber style whats worse?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:16:37 No.2092666 >>2084321 yup

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:33:38 No.2093078 >>2084446 if anyone disagree with this picture you either will come to believes this in future are you are just a trend chaser with no real personality as they call it an npc

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:34:41 No.2093103 >>2085207 >chess is not a hobby because its went viral years ago

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:38:13 No.2093178 >>2088090 by comparison the other anon is so big of a faggot that he can make common sense look based

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:39:43 No.2093212 why do these underage anons use words they don't understand?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:40:45 No.2093241 >>2085985 the extent to his collab will be minor voice role in his 4th channel

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:43:54 No.2093302 >>2084315 Retard, they get paid more for this then they will receive doing anything else considering the low effort they put in. They will only leave when the audience grows tired of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:45:55 No.2093342 >>2085985 >>2093241 https://youtu.be/JrtrdTGrBaI?t=216

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 31, 2021 23:47:54 No.2093389 >>2093342 i know about he voiced in her tv or something thats why i thought it may be possible

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 00:50:38 No.2094927
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>>2084212
Anitubers are a cancer that is why fans in hlgg and reddit hated it. The only reason management allowed the collab was for Kadokawa permissions and Bookwalker sponsorships. Newfags and western shitters like yourself don't know this but HoloJP has collabed with actual male celebrities like ZUN, Sugita and Yuki Ono which fans loved. Stop trying to ruin Hololive, fuck off to VShojo and Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 01:03:52 No.2095154 File: 52 KB, 327x435, 1616039989739.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2085155 I do feel like kfp is in 6 stage.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 02:51:12 No.2097088 >>2084212 >popular media influences those guys are so popular and influential I'd never heard of them untill /vt/ had a spaz attack about them talking to kaliope.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:28:26 No.2097471 >>2085765 >Hololive (Cover) and Trash taste (Kadokawa) Isn't this literally why it was allowed to happen? I doubt if Kadokawa and Bookwalker weren't sponsors there would have not been a this episode.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:29:42 No.2097488 File: 75 KB, 1280x720, 1613482851114.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2086455 >not reading older comic runs Your own fault, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:35:12 No.2097547 >>2094927 >reddit hated it Wait, they hated it? I though reddit would love this?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:47:55 No.2097668 >>2084954 Moviebob

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:50:50 No.2097690

>>2084212
At the end of the day, it's irrelevant what the talents want from a company standpoint. Doing shit that pisses off your fanbase is bad business. They're corporate and have given up the kind of freedom they used to have to associate with whoever they wanted.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:54:33 No.2097723 >>2084425 >Cover can put heavy rules before they collab https://youtu.be/leC2IyytnOw?t=58

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 03:57:23 No.2097750

>>2084212
>get tons of shit for it
Except no one gave a shit about this except for the spergs on /hlgg/, weeks of freaking the fuck out and doomposting all for it to just be Calli essentially giving a recap of the everything she had talked about on stream at that point

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:04:57 No.2097811 >>2084954 Demolition D+

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:11:19 No.2097863

>>2086303
So when people attempt to defend their hobby from cultural locusts like yourself, they're "whinging." And then when it's destroyed because people weren't defending it against the diseased, it wasn't important in the first place. Hang yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:11:56 No.2097877 >>2084446 A incel made this.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:16:27 No.2097924 >>2084446 /r9k/ documentary

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:16:41 No.2097928

>>2084212
No one cares if any chuuba collab with actual celebrities/influencers: other chuuba, actors/actresses, seiyuu, Mafia Kajita, mangaka or video game creator.
Imagine fucking Gackt collab.
People don't dislike the fact that Calli collab with TT. It's the three guests that they hate.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:19:25 No.2097960 >>2097863 Yes. You're watching virtual icons online, not fighting on fucking Normandy you maniac

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:27:20 No.2098045 >>2086530 Just fuck off. You'll never produce anything of value, you fucking parasite. I'll take an autistic unicornfag over your presence any day of the week.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:31:34 No.2098091 >>2097877 this picture is older than you

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:33:28 No.2098112 >>2097960 Never said it was, you diseased rodent. But it's important enough for parasites like yourself to want in, and so it should be important enough to defend against what clearly is a destructive pest.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:39:26 No.2098161 >>2097723 I imagine she wants to keep her job. She'll fall in line eventually.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:42:38 No.2098191 >>2098161 She wants to "break conventions/rules." She's the true yab that everyone feared.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:53:16 No.2098299 >>2098161 Mori did. Jap companies don't care about your feelings. I'm afraid Ollie lacks the joshiki and will yab big time soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 04:55:24 No.2098322 >>2084212 i dont even know who those mutts are.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:11:21 No.2098461

>>2084446
The implication here is that the fanbse was ever good. But it wasn't. The vtuber sphere and especially hololive/niji have the most obnoxious fanbases imaginable, even beyond this website. Theirs nothing to save because their was nothing to ruin in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:12:36 No.2098474 >>2098461 Nothing but the truth here.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:16:40 No.2098518
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I think this was bad idea anyway even just the podcast itself. There never was anything interesting going on this episode because Mori has to keep the act so you really could not ask shit like about the technology of hololive or other questions like that which i think Connor probably would have wanted to ask.
I really hope there is not gonna be another one and i also hope those guys realize the real reason they got permission to have Mori on their podcast.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:16:48 No.2098520 >mixing 2D with 3D fuck this Roger Rabbits shit.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:17:01 No.2098524

>>2084212
>popular media influencers
you mean clout chasers that are basically spouting back general consensus of an opinion and try to do it in a "funny" way?
They all can die in a fire for all I care. They're just Ray William Johnson reincarnated that will fade into obscurity.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:22:17 No.2098575 >>2085302 Can we call nips that try to create scandals for the girls at every opportunity SJW?

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:22:38 No.2098581

>>2098461
It not about a good or bad fanbase but about culture and common interests. If every vShojo girl were as big an otaku as your average Holomem, they wouldn't get nearly as much shit as they do. There's no way to gatekeep vtubers other than not supporting them and speaking against them.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:22:41 No.2098583

>>2098518
> hope those guys realize the real reason they got permission to have Mori on their podcast.
I mean, they are aware why they got permitted, they are not that dumb. Either way it's a unique experience for them and one of the most viewed episodes on their channel so they got some milk from this situation in the end.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:24:09 No.2098598 >>2098524 Heheh. Pain peko, amirite guys?

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:24:47 No.2098607

>>2084321
anitubers are cancer. I'd imagine a lot of potential eceleb collabs would be cringe by default but I wouldn't mind a fair few just as long as they weren't anituber fags or any of those other faggots that try to gatekeep (it's only good when people who aren't shit do it) weeb shit or piggy back off of it. I'd rather a fucking townsends x mori collab where mori has to awkwardly have her live 2d float there while 18th century recipes are made than fucking mother's basment or those hypocritical fuckers at funimation. Fuck them for what they did to vic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:32:19 No.2098700 >>2098524 >you mean clout chasers I can see Animeman being that because that guy was shitting on whole idea of vtubers still into the mid 2020 but the white guy still hasn't got into vtubers and probably never will because he is too normalfag for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:34:02 No.2098710 >>2098700 I remember seeing a video of him interviewing Kizuna Ai back when she first got popular way before the modern Vtuber boom

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 05:43:10 No.2098806 >Gatekeeping parasocial relationships Your oshi doesn't even know you exist

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:10:31 No.2099076 Ollie and Calli are the most dangerous Holos. I do not dislike them, but they have this worrysome tendency to reach out to the worst people. Maybe they should graduate to keep Hololive pure. Mori isn't very dedicated to Vtubing anyway.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:16:48 No.2099137

>>2098583
>I mean, they are aware why they got permitted
Maybe Connor but other two(especially gigguk) seems like spergs who think they have now big connections to hololive and can just get any of them do collabs even in their own videos.
I do hope that isn't true but i get that from watching the podcast.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:19:11 No.2099168 >>2098710 Yeah i know but i don't think he really watched her content but what do i know.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:21:31 No.2099188 >>2099076 Are you still on about that? This podcast was like 4 months ago and that whole charlie fiasco is also like 2 months old now.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:30:22 No.2099288

>>2098581
>as big an otaku as your average Holomem
Your "average Holomem" is not an otaku, anon.
Fubuki, Flare, Marine, Noel, and Miko are big otaku. Suisei is also an otaku but with a lower power level than the former group. Kanata and Matsuri are huge idolfags. All of the other JP holos are either normalfags or failed normalfags.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:35:46 No.2099352 >>2084321 The problem with this argument is, that you're not an authority to determine who's a "gargantuan faggot" or not. Nor is any other anonymous minotirty. You have to actually put yourself on the line to make that argument.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:40:49 No.2099407 >>2099076 >pure

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:50:22 No.2099493 >>2098700 >white guy Anon... That’s CDawgVA Connor The one who is making friends with Ollie

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:56:44 No.2099558 >>2084954 Cum Town

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:57:18 No.2099563 >>2085985 he's a vtuber

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:57:52 No.2099568 >>2098461 just hololive tho. they have the most toxic fanbase out there

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 06:58:19 No.2099578 >>2084954 Jordan Peterson.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:00:08 No.2099597 >>2099493 Yes i know but it is not like he watches them often and mostly collabs ironmouse or other indies.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:03:19 No.2099639 >>2099558 I unironically want to see them collab with EN

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:07:40 No.2099691 >>2097811 I've been catching up with Demo's streams and he keeps fucking ogeying.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:08:24 No.2099705 >>2099563 This makes too much sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:19:26 No.2099865 >>2084212 how does it make you feel knowing Kiara probably begged to go on this podcast after Mori did it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:22:26 No.2099928 >>2099288 Azki literally got her start singing for a doujin circle, it doesn't get more otaku than that.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:43:29 No.2100498

>>2099865
Thats extremly unlikely. She has no idea who any of these people are and her interests is in completly different avenues.
Hell, Mori probably didn't care to be on the podcast either, this was a colab between Cover and Kadokawa and Mori was just the most suitable candidate.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:47:34 No.2100584

>>2084212
I know I might be the retard here, but what's the point of vtubers if they also interact outside of the screen and also present it in that way? My problem with the TT podcast was that it felt really awkward, since none of the fags could even pretend that they talk to the character and not the roommate. It would have been the same with an all-female cast. Either have her on the screen or make everybody a fucking avatar.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:48:44 No.2100605 >>2084212 Only the nigger of nippon and the zoomerzombie want to do this shitcollabs

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:58:48 No.2100836 >the amount of retards seething at any mention of gatekeeping Took a look at global today, turns out /jp/ was right as expected.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 07:59:03 No.2100844

>>2100584
I agree with you there. I know that collabs with real 3D people are nothing new but everytime I see them I do find them really immersion breaking. I'm probably in the minority though because I also don't like when vtubers fuck around with their live2D (e.g. visibly cropping the bottom).

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:04:57 No.2100975

>>2100584
>My problem with the TT podcast was that it felt really awkward, since none of the fags could even pretend that they talk to the character and not the roommate
I agree that it was stupid idea and i am gonna say it was gigguks idea to have a vtuber as guest without thinking that they had to go with the act. I hope he doesn't think he has now some kinda power to get any holo into his own videos or in the podcast.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:11:30 No.2101141 >>2100836 How are gonna gatekeep Hololive though? Spam the TT guys so they would not make this podcast?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:14:56 No.2101237 >>2101141 EN manager already does an excellent job, you can always not mention them directly on Holos' streams and tell the enabling faggots here to fuck off. Be civil.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:19:48 No.2101370 Didnt watch that collab. Who are these faggots and why the seething hatred ?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:27:38 No.2101572 >>2099568 >>>>>>>>>>>>just hololive tho

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:33:38 No.2101848 >>2098806 Your oshi she don't know you exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:48:40 No.2102273 >>2101370 Smoothbrain anitubers, the justified hate carries over from /a/ crossboarders

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:49:49 No.2102304 >>2101370 So it's the usual monkey and ladder effect ? I'll give it a watch.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 08:57:54 No.2102503 >>2101370 anons are jealous that some nobody anituber faggot gets to hang out with their oshi

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 09:26:26 No.2103281 >>2084212 Aim higher. Anitubers are low tier youtubers. >>2084321 This.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 09:34:53 No.2103518

>>2100836
Gatekeeping and sperging out about "muh sekrit club" are two different things. Anyone who's ever watched an anime related video on youtube knew about vtubers from getting spammed with korone, miko and fubuki clips way back in early 2020 if they didn't already know Kizuna ai

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 09:41:26 No.2103694

>>2102304
>So it's the usual monkey and ladder effect
Pretty much. I mean some of their opinions are retarded and Cdawg dude is a literal asshole but it's a podcast like many others. I see alot of hatred throw around and calling it gatekeeping. It was seen by millions, I guess it failed. Time to bring up constructive criticism ?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 09:54:20 No.2104046 >>2103694 >Cdawg dude is a literal asshole He is British. That is how they are.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:10:03 No.2104909

>>2084321
>>2094927
This. These fags are nothing but cancerous ironic weebs that are no different than the shitty clippers or memers on reddit. And yet you want to defend them or the collab because you want to swim against the current.
Then there's idiots who want or defend the idea of that critikal sissy collabing with EN. It's all done here, the hololive "fanbase" has been replaced with the boom and then again after EN. Enjoy it, the fanbase affects the ambient and the content of the streamer.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:11:04 No.2105005 >>2097668 Very funny

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:22:30 No.2105833

>>2104909
You know what ? Good fucking riddance. While I believe there's a special place in hell for a majority of the Vtubers and absolute fucking creativity black hole that is 95% of Vshojo's content, fans like you that was in for "muh secret club" need to fuck off or at least develop some sort of opinion to at the very least not appear like retards frothing at the mouth.
They're cancer, they're smoothbrains, they're faggots, they're shitters. None of this is actual gatekeeping shit, it's just making people even more curious as to what it is exactly that makes people like you salty. You're doing as much a disservice to the community than Iron mouse making dick jokes every 2 seconds. If you hate it now then fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:28:51 No.2106378 >>2084212 If I wanted my niche vtuber streamer doing normalcattle content I would just watch the normalcattle media.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:31:55 No.2106623 >>2106378 is streaming fall guys niche content

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:43:22 No.2107581

>>2105833
Have you not had any hobbies aside from vtubers for the past 10 years or so? Getting rid of the “muh sekrit club” mentality is what kills a community. It can be annoying but without keeping newfags on a tight leash the culture devolves over time and what the once was a mild annoyance in the midst of fun times becomes what people will miss the most.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:49:06 No.2108091 If you unironically watch these faggots you deserve a bullet

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:51:20 No.2108245 >>2106378 yet you tune in for minecraft

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 10:53:02 No.2108402

>>2107581
see >>2103518, gatekeeping and "keeping newfags on a short leash" is important but that's not what you're doing, and if you had your way where vtubers never advertised or made any effort to attract new members ever the community would stagnate and die. You /jp/ subhumans just want the vtubing to remain japanese only for the sake of belonging to a secret club, you don't actually give a shit about the medium itself

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 11:11:09 No.2110034 >>2084315 >a pekorafag said this. rake this faggot for arguing the prequels are better. Unlimited options and budget is not a good thing

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 11:16:25 No.2110338 File: 600 KB, 601x800, 1589863043832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2085430 >If you say facts and aren't retarded you must spend all your time in a blacked porn concentration camp rake this faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 11:18:59 No.2110487 File: 94 KB, 785x720, ea0s2e87ljd61.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2085765 >all the way back in 2019 >all the way >2019

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 11:21:32 No.2110737 >>2099352 Based anon going against the hivemind

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 11:22:39 No.2110805 File: 631 KB, 600x600, 1444734379636.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2097811 I still miss him..

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 11:31:33 No.2111395 >>2106623 I don't watch those. >>2108245 Only when they're doing a collab.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 12:04:16 No.2113544 >>2098575 Isn't that what the word "anti" is for?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 12:18:20 No.2114113 >>2084321 Connor is based though.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 14:39:45 No.2115828

>>2104909
>These fags are nothing but cancerous ironic weebs that are no different than the shitty clippers or memers on reddit
Outside of that white guy who is jojofag i think other two have more understanding of the anime and know more about anime than ironic weebs usually do.
>And yet you want to defend the collab
No i do think it was bad idea but for a different reasons.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 14:58:38 No.2116240 File: 16 KB, 290x241, 1586379278780.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2084212 Yea because we need more influence of faggots who disregard the culture. Basically what this anon posted >>2084446 minus autism.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:02:49 No.2116357 >>2084954 Varg Vikernes

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:24:18 No.2116850 >>2099558 >>2099639 Swallow a fucking bullet, you fucking fags

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:27:06 No.2116917 >>2084321 But all ecelebs are gargantuan faggots

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:30:14 No.2116976

>>2105833
I don't want a sekrit club. If you're mad about not getting into the cool stuff early don't focust that on this.
If they chose non cringe people to collab with, I wouldn't have a problem. And if they collabed with some cringy jap tv guy I wouldn't like it either. It's all for the fame of collabing with the trendy girls.
And even if you say that they are actually not ironic weebs, which I doubt, they behave like genuine retards and you can imagine what kind of people their content brings.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:34:23 No.2117058 >>2084212 Connor fucked Mori. There's nothing you can do about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:37:08 No.2117115 >>2116976 >and you can imagine what kind of people their content brings Did it really chance chat behavior though? It mostly stayed the same and at least with EN holos chat was always cancerous.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:37:31 No.2117120 >>2098299 Ollie is young, she will die trying to save the industry from unicorns.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:39:40 No.2117168 >>2084954 Ross Scott

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:41:04 No.2117196 >>2084446 This makes no sense since vtubers were already sanitized to hell, Coco was a blessing to that shitty company.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 15:49:05 No.2117372 >>2084954 Vinesauce

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 16:00:40 No.2117542 Because 3DPD. For people that watch vtubers that's a fact. If they didn't think that they'd watch regular streamers instead and vtubers would not exist. It's not a hard concept to understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 16:03:57 No.2117597 >>2084212 >more popular I'm 90% sure Mori had more subs than the podcast channel at the time and she definitely does now

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 16:12:17 No.2117732 >>2116850 Cum town is funnier than anything (You) ever liked.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 16:55:35 No.2118490 >>2117597 Yeah but those guys have their own channels and i think by that point all of them had over million subs.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 16:57:00 No.2118522 >>2117542 Seems kinda not true when so many people were interested on who their roommates are.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 17:14:16 No.2118919 >>2098461 Retard take, you have absolutely no clue how bad a fanbase can actually get

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 17:31:33 No.2119277 >>2118919 Knocking on Subaru and Gibara's door is not bad?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 17:33:42 No.2119344 >>2100584 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ZqwsJqpts

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 18:08:45 No.2120095 Haachama x SteveMRE1989 collab when

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 18:20:01 No.2120413

>>2118522
Dude that's just general human curiosity, of course someone is going to be curious about the voice behind the avatar. The issue is when you got larping dork knights who fall for the forbidden knowledge meme and try to start dox shit everywhere. inb4 bitching about doxbeats, but really some vtubers are probably going to be a bit more open secret about it than others

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 19:21:20 No.2122199 >>2084446 wow. this is really fucking stupid

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:09:06 No.2124965

>>2093103
Retarded analogy
Most people who play chess learn the very basics never play anywhere beyond a casual level
The majority of vtubers talked about on /vt/ are corporate owned entities who's actresses treat streaming like a full time job
This thread was made by holofag complaining about that the actress who works for her corporation appeared on a corporate owned and corporate approved podcast while playing her corporate owned character in which two corporations (Cover and Kadokawa) do corporate cross-promotion of each other
The MS paint comic doubly retarded and doesn't at apply to the situation AT ALL because it would be implying that a vtuber with over a million subs, that has multiple videos with 10m+ viewers appearing on a podcast that had 3 million views could be considered "niche" or a "hobby" when this was just a normal day at the office for both parties involved

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:20:53 No.2125257 and I will keep seething in my burner accounts to make sure managers know some people will setthe so they cut the holos freedom, next will be ollie :)

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:27:56 No.2125424 >>2084212 >hurr my only exposure to "Vtubers collabing to media influencers" is this video >meanwhile vtubers are already collabing with local shows/radio shows/comedians in Japan Stop anons, get your meds.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:28:58 No.2125442 >>2125424 I won't, jp weeb culture is fine, western one isnt.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:33:43 No.2125536 >>2125442 >muh kulture

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:38:54 No.2125655 >>2125442 >/jp/ weeb culture is fine You're a fucking brainwashes retard if you actually believe this.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:39:56 No.2125684 >>2084212 /vt/ is completely unlike /jp/ in which timeloops are considered acceptable because the maladjusted /vpol9k/ schizos need repetition in their sad pathetic lives.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:46:14 No.2125818 >>2125684 Take some meds for your delusion of boogeyman

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:46:43 No.2125826 >>2084212 >Talents wanted this Even if they did fuck what they want we need more filtering not growth >It wasn't just allowed to let the girls read manga and lns on stream

Anonymous Thu, Apr 1, 2021 21:53:22 No.2125946

>>2125818
So we need to keep our perception of Mori as the person that went on Trash Taste, made a fool out of herself, and ensuingly got better due to the fact that some people didn't like her choice of words on the show as a result of it? Got it, schizo. Why don't you go make another Kiara or Ollie thread while you're at it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 00:37:36 No.2129793 >>2098461 Vtubing existed long before the Hololive/Niji you newfag and yes it was actually legitimately good during the Shitennou era

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 00:37:51 No.2129795 >>2116357 Varg is the biggest faggot of them all.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 01:33:35 No.2130421 >>2084954 Justin Whang

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 01:45:13 No.2130510 >>2125442 Westerners are still catching up on this whole vtubing thing. I do think it'll grow beyond pee poo jokes and boring JP copycat streams someday.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 01:50:34 No.2130552

>>2130510
It won't if vshoujo is allowed to dominate the market, ironically the best case scenario for western vtubing is a big media company like viacom or disney starting their own brands because they'll actually be able to keep their talent on a leash

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 02:07:11 No.2130736 >>2084321 some anitubers I fucking hate like Nux taku or mother’s basement, but guys on trash taste aren’t that bad

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 02:08:35 No.2130747 >>2085155 You people need to take your meds It’s not hard to just enjoy chuubas

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 02:10:17 No.2130768 >>2130552 This is literally the worst take I’ve ever seen on /vt/ dear god I hope that never becomes reality

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 02:25:30 No.2130955 >>2085049 >gigguk and his faggy entourage who's idea of seinen is JJBA (and they haven't even read JoJolion) are the original audience This is the most cancerous non-3dshit board by far.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 02:26:33 No.2130968 >>2087584 Sadly, the everage EOP might as well be an indog.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 03:11:20 No.2131424 >>2125442 >jp weeb culture is fine >actually believing this They are as retarded as western weeaboos just with little bit of spicy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 03:16:11 No.2131457 >>2125826 >It wasn't just allowed to let the girls read manga and lns on stream Isn't this what happened though? Trash Taste is sponsored BookWalker and that is owned by KadoKawa.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 03:18:33 No.2131476 >>2084321 Absolute

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 04:09:29 No.2131875 >>2084321 Why doesn't this guy have dubs of truth?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 04:13:21 No.2131907 >>2084212 Get a collab with bigger e-celebs like Charlie or something not anitubers.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 04:29:26 No.2132014 >>2084212 >get tons of shit for it I just really dislike the way they approach otaku culture in particular. The animeman guy seems ok

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 04:32:36 No.2132042 >>2084571 (the up to date world for incel) made this

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 04:37:04 No.2132065 >>2084954 Mandalore

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 04:59:06 No.2132261 >>2084954 Sseth

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 05:14:11 No.2132398 >>2084954 James Reeves with TFBTV

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 05:58:07 No.2132762 >>2084954 food review brah

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 06:01:20 No.2132783 >>2132261 hey hey people.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 06:55:01 No.2133251 >>2084212 just a bunch of faggots staying in their cave just trying to make themselves better

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 07:34:09 No.2133648 >>2084321 Name one eceleb that isn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 07:36:42 No.2133676 >>2132261 >A jew

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 07:36:51 No.2133678 >>2132762 objectively correct.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 07:38:39 No.2133693 >>2133648 The hydraulic press

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 07:41:13 No.2133715 >>2133648 RLM

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 08:56:24 No.2134909 >>2133648 isn't that the point? >>2084954 that's the point!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 09:07:37 No.2135139 >>2130768 If holos start pushing 5m or more it will, I for one welcome our new mickey mouse vtuber overlord

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 09:15:15 No.2135298 >>2130552 >best case scenario is a huge soulless company taking over Genuinely the dumbest post I have ever seen on this board.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 09:47:49 No.2135958 >>2084315 Precisely

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 10:44:47 No.2137155 >>2135298 Yeah, western vtubing is doomed to sjw politics otherwise, there's no option where you have entertaining apolitical indies controlling the market

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 10:57:05 No.2137405

>>2137155
Companies like Disney are the laziest cash-grabbers in existence and convert everything they touch into low-effort rehashes of the same content because they know retards like you will pay for it anyway. If you'd honestly rather watch sanitized, semi-scripted chuubas playing RAID: Shadow Legends and Fortnite for eternity instead of taking your pick from a wide range of indies and smaller groups making creative content they actually want to make, you are beyond saving. You're so obsessed with avoiding "politics" you'd rather consume watered down, flavorless, corporate "entertainment" than anything interesting. You're no better than people who only watch Marvel movies, only play FIFA, and only listen to top 50 radio.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:02:34 No.2137524 >>2084212 >get tons of shit for it Outside of places like this, this mostly never happens Anon it is quite actually the opposite. as in if you try to criticize them for doing this you would be the one getting shit on

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:04:21 No.2137573

>>2137405
I didn't say I liked it, I said it's the best case scenario. Your choices are corporations playing it safe for advertisers or small companies like vshoujo playing it safe for twitter. You won't have a huge selection of koopa-esque chuubas actually being entertaining

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:06:21 No.2137609

>>2104909
>These fags are nothing but cancerous ironic weebs
Maybe Connor, but no fucking way are either Joey or Garnt ironic weebs dude. Garnt has been uploading Anime videos on Youtube since the fucking AVGN era and Joey has pretty openly defended Loli shit

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:10:40 No.2137678 >>2084989 >I'm glad they decided to pretend it never happened What do you mean?

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:20:58 No.2137873

>>2137609
This, Joey has like 5 Shinobu figures in the background of any given episode, owns hundreds of manga, constantly likes lewd loli art on Twitter, has a fucking Fakku sponsorship, and a running gag is the battle between MILFfags (Connor) and lolifags (Joey). Connor is the modern "ironic" weeb who only watches JoJo and fotm shonen, Garnt is the generic/average weeb who mostly watches seasonal isekai trash but at least does watch anime, and Joey is a more legit weeb than 90% of people on this board. His powerlevel is only exceeded by oldfag /a/utists.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:21:58 No.2137890

>>2098518
> There never was anything interesting going on this episode because Mori has to keep the act
Yeah honestly the episode was kind of shit because of this, it felt like it had absolute 0 substance because any question or anecdote that Mori gave had to be in-character making for her appearance on a podcast absolutely nothing special because it might as well have been just a normal stream with Connor Garnt and Joey reacting to the side

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:40:38 No.2138311

>>2084212
I like their podcast but man do they have shit taste and opinions.
>connor refusing to fap to doujinshi
>Garnt and Joey shitting on Connor for putting shows he likes for his 3x3 and not putting rouge picks like them
>saying that people who call Eva contrarian or overrated are wrong
>Hey guys have we talked about jojo? We love Jojo.
>Japan needs to be more progressive to the lgbt and other political shit that isn't japan, otaku or anime related.
>Loli is shit, but not my waifu she's technically 1000 years old and can grow older.
>gatcha is totally fine and whales should be left to go bankrupt for a png, even though they clearly have gambling addictions.
>I hate people who talk about ongoing shows, why the fuck can't they wait until it finishes airing so I can watch it. Fuck them for enjoying shit when i can't be assed to watch it.

Also all the times they ironic like shit just for sake of making a shitty joke at the expense of people that like it.

I mean I like their podcast, it's fun and I laugh and enjoy them but man they really drive me up the wall sometimes.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:45:00 No.2138408

>>2137873
Joey is pretty normalfag with half his tastes though.
He says he never faps to his waifu.
He even avoid doujinshi of shows he likes because he feels like that'll ruin the show or manga for him, I've never heard somebody do that.
His taste in doujinshi and porn is also entry level.
Like Shindol and Shibuya kaho who he calls his favourites.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:47:01 No.2138443 >>2133648 chuggaconroy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:50:15 No.2138524 >>2088315 story?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:50:36 No.2138528 Yes. Going mainstream always attracts shitheads that will try to subvert something pure for political gain and/or virtue signaling.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:51:01 No.2138544 >>2130736 Do you mean to tell me that you don't enjoy the biggest anime flexes

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:51:40 No.2138559 File: 365 KB, 320x320, ree.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2138311 >Japan needs to be more progressive to the lgbt and other political shit that isn't japan, otaku or anime related.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:54:43 No.2138640 >>2108402 It's not about keeping out new members. It's about keeping out a certain type of individual that claims to be fans but really just tweet all day about social justice.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:54:45 No.2138641 >>2137524 Probably cause there wasn’t really anything wrong with it? It was an interesting video even if they obviously weren’t gonna be allowed to ask some stuff

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 11:57:11 No.2138719

>>2137609
Joey has said before that he’s quite literally been watching anime as far back as he can remember, and yeah garnt is like the first or second anime youtuber ever
Which is why I don’t take the criticism of calling them random normies very seriously when they’ve both been involved with otaku culture and anime for a very long time
Not sure about Connor though

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:03:25 No.2138919

>>2138640
I don't think there was ever a chance of that once they got the western weeb audience. The only way to keep them out for sure is to just go openly racist, but then you either get banned from mass reports or attract the stormfront audience which isn't much better

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:05:44 No.2138991

>>2138919
No, you don't go self-destructive. You simply keep pointing them out and laughing. You ignore the rules they demand and you don't cancel.
But faggots always throw open the doors in the name of "fairness," and they creep in like a Trojan fucking horse.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:06:52 No.2139024
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>>2138640
>It's not about keeping out new members. It's about keeping out a certain type of individual that claims to be fans but really just tweet all day about social justice.

they are called libtards

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:08:01 No.2139055 >>2084446 Incel comic

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:08:39 No.2139072 >>2084954 Korone

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:15:11 No.2139240 I'm confused didn't pewdiepie and joey already collab with kizuna ai? Why are you guys mad now?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:16:28 No.2139272 >>2099188 Who's charlie? what happened with him/her?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:16:41 No.2139281 >>2139024 Thank you for your profound insights, /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:18:44 No.2139336 >>2139240 Newfag EOPs who have only been watching since HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:19:08 No.2139344 >>2100584 >none of the fags could even pretend that they talk to the character and not the roommate. I'm sorry, could you ellaborate? They weren't talking to her?

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:23:17 No.2139452

>>2139344
Basically he’s saying since she was actually in the room with them, and since hololive doesn’t usually want to break Kayfabe, it was kind of awkward sometimes especially when no one could really ask the interesting questions about the behind-the-scenes in the industry and such

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:28:34 No.2139590

>>2110805
>>2097811
>>2099691
What the appeal of demo over other anitubers?
He's funny sure but sure are other youtubers.
Hartvigen does the same shit as him but for hentai.
Gigguk does similar content but it more tame.
Even people like super eyepatch wolf if you want in depth analysis.
Fuck, you even have melonpan for crazy high power level german shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:28:52 No.2139596 >>2139452 >behind the scenes >interesting nah

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:31:37 No.2139653 >>2139590 I don't know who a single one of those people is but I hate them already. Die.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:32:19 No.2139672 >>2125655 >>2131424 Not him but What's wrong with it? The only problem I know is that some fans are crazy and can be stalkers or really unforgiving if an idol gets a bf and force her to shave her head or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:37:33 No.2139777 >>2139653 You could at least try them. I mean you're not against demo or anitubers in general, these guys are similar, might as well.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:39:24 No.2139817

>>2093302
>don't do what you want to do
>do what brings you the most money
Literal boomer rhetoric. Calli doesn't seem to be the kind of person who does stuff for "MUH MONEY".
Money is a means to an end, not the goal, for her.
Hell, she moved to Japan and worked several jobs just so she could stay there to participate in the jap hip-hop scene.
Nobody who has money as their first, second or third priority would do something as retarded as that.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:43:55 No.2139911 >>2084954 Terra A. Davis, too bad he now works on the sourcecode of the universe along the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 12:45:49 No.2139949 >>2139672 dude, western niggers are fucking shallow

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 13:33:17 No.2140938 >>2139817 Calli just wants you to want to be like her

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:01:45 No.2141419 >>2084954 Gubby McGubs

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:09:28 No.2141508 >>2141419 Gubby is that you? We used to shitpost with eachother on Twitter before both of our accounts got shoah’d

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:11:05 No.2141528 >>2084446 look at all these butthurt replies

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:23:02 No.2141717

>>2084212
I think the Trash Taste appearance (at least, Joey and Gigguk) was fine for the most part, though I am biased because I am a regular listener, but anything regular would be a no go. If they want to do this, it's their prerogative, I'll probably just watch and SC less and less and focus more on my indies if that's the case.

On a side note, Chicken but mostly Ollie has finally opened my eyes to the festering decay inherent in western branches. I apologize whole heartedly to /jp/ for everything I said about them since EN's debut. They were right, I was wrong.
I'm now a month into hardcore nipponese reps. I'll be joining you all soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:24:19 No.2141734 >>2141717 Please fucking die before you post here again

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:24:54 No.2141748 >>2141717 >All that doomposting about western chuubas from indogs >The beginning of the end starts from HoloID Pottery

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:25:30 No.2141753

>>2099639
nick mullen wouldn't be caught dead in conversation with a vtuber, especially a hololive one because nick mullen is basically as close as you could get to being an incel without literally being one

stav and adam would probably entertain the idea (adam even allegedly fucked that insane furry chick that was memed around a while back) but they'd be making fun of it the whole time and would be really aggressive about trying to get them to openly admit that they cater to lonely loser virgins that speak like kermit the frog. and if the EN girl they interviewed resisted the idea they'd try to really fuck with her.

btw I haven't been listening to their podcasts recently, do they know about vtubers, beyond generic kizuna ai type shit?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:25:59 No.2141760 >>2141748 It sounds a lot more like the anti posting is coming from anituber fans

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:26:56 No.2141776

>>2087744
No it doesn't retard, because I'm the fucking customer. I love my chuubas as much as the next gosling but the idea that they can our akas while completely disregarding our opinions is ridiculous. It's all a transaction at the end.
If they don't want to acquiesce, they're free to graduate and make way for people who actually want to do the job properly.
I'm being harsh, but thankfully, there are only a few holos that are trying to upend the social contract.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:27:27 No.2141786

>>2139452
> when no one could really ask the interesting questions about the behind-the-scenes in the industry and such

I doubt most of that stuff is interesting, or if it is none of the ENs have a huge amount of insight into the actually interesting parts.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:27:58 No.2141796 >>2087801 What the fuck do you think an idol acts like? Unironic disney princesses?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:28:00 No.2141798 >>2141760 It's a good amount, american anime fans think any girl under 7 feet tall with tits smaller than coconuts is a loli and they get all fired up about "muh pedos"

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:29:14 No.2141814 >>2141798 I meant the kiara/ollie spam...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:29:24 No.2141818 >>2141717 >>2141748 I don’t care, I will keep watching chuubas I like

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:29:31 No.2141819 >>2093342 >"isn't a gargantuan faggot" >SJW

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:30:59 No.2141846 >>2132261 Literally the only correct answer

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:31:03 No.2141851 >>2141798 You’re lumping all of us in with the Twitter anime crowd, who are a bunch of retards Even the trash taste guys have enough self respect to not be that way and actively criticize people like that

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:32:10 No.2141876 >>2141814 oh no, that's 100% SEAniggers from /jp/ falseflagging so they can say /vt/ sucks, they tried to do it with a few others too but it doesn't catch on the same way kiara does

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:33:27 No.2141895 >>2141851 I wish I could lump you in with them in a grave you faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:33:50 No.2141902 >>2141734 t. future Vshojo cuckposter

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:37:35 No.2141961 >>2141876 There is little to no antiposting on /vt/. In reality, KFP/Chicken are just targets for bullying because they are giant and consistent faggots. It's not just SEAnigs either. Isn't that right KFP?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:40:10 No.2142001 >>2141961 This guy is subscribed to multiple anitubers and is characteristic of their fanbase

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:40:22 No.2142002 File: 160 KB, 2400x1080, panished.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2141961 I don't think so tourist, all the false flags make me want to do is unite with the 2 actual KFPs on this board to carpet bomb indonesia

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:50:17 No.2142179

>>2142002
>all the false flags make me want to do is unite with the 2 actual KFPs on this board to carpet bomb indonesia
No skin off my back, but it's really not them. If you can stand the eternal yab machine and her (tiny) army of bait eating, samefagging, ban evading (do your reps) schizos, then you're one exceptionally resilient faggot. Props.

>tourist
Kek. Just look at the generals during a major event or EN collab is happening, when everyone is here, and see the sentiment. If that's all falseflagging indogs then we are fucking surrounded.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 14:55:11 No.2142278 >>2142179 >surrounded We are, /jp/ immigrants are trying to set up their board culture here and proving they're the reason why the 2hu containment board was so shitty in the first place despite all their "holobrony" posting.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:04:52 No.2142439

>>2142278
So wait, if everyone here is falseflagging...

...doesn't that just means that this board hates Kiara? I haven't noticed any particular change in the board culture since day 1.
And to be honest, even if what you're saying is true... good. They are at least prepared to adequately gatekeep this board in some way. A strong culture is better than no culture at all.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:11:14 No.2142524

>>2142439
I won't say hates but the number of real chicken fans is in the single/low double digits, the actual board favorite is hard to tell because of all the shitflinging but we do like the pepeloni and watamelon. Culture wise this board feels more like pre-2012 /v/ mixed with /a/ once you get out of prime shitposting hours

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:43:30 No.2143176 >>2141798 But isn't one of those TT guys into loli?

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:43:57 No.2143185

>>2142524
Precisely. I've honestly never gotten the whole SEAnig falseflagger thing. The rrat is apparently that they hate chicken on Moona's behalf (who they don't even watch), but now chief ID Ollie is the big target, so there goes that.
It's almost like this board, Indog or burger, just doesn't like roastie shit, and especially doesn't like it when actual holos like chicken (and now Ollie) don't seem to hold reverence for the very cultural rules that attracted them to this medium in the first place. Even my darling Coco gets hate here, and I know deep down it isn't just chinks.
But forget SEAnigs, chinks, antis or even KFP; the real antagonists of this board are the hoards of seething Nousagis that, instead of supporting their leader, remain insecure that the shark is slightly more popular than their oshi. What a sight to behold.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:48:04 No.2143254

>>2143185
>when actual holos like chicken (and now Ollie) don't seem to hold reverence for the very cultural rules that attracted them to this medium in the first place
Wait, Kiara is huge idolfag. How has she broken any of the rules? Are you sure you aren't talking about Mori.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:56:33 No.2143377 >>2143254 She breaks very minor rules like public numberfagging, unironically complaining about fans, general insensitivity and yabs. This is the reason why, despite what KFP will tell you, this board is full of chicken critics, not antis.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 15:59:18 No.2143412 >>2143176 Yes but he is an optics cuck. Don't get me wrong, I would do the same in his place but it's not very endearing do vt. Also, Connor and his fanbase is the main problem tbf

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 16:05:26 No.2143530 >>2143412 *to /vt/

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 16:12:28 No.2143674

>>2143185
Yeah, there's a difference between hating/not liking and intentionally making 30 threads about her a day to shit up the board, those threadspammers are the ones people are calling SEAniggers. Doesn't help that the people that hate her can't resist the chance to sperg out no matter how stale and obvious the bait is

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 16:25:25 No.2143881

>>2143412
>Connor and his fanbase is the main problem
How is he a problem? I know he is a normalfag that likes mostly mainstream anime but it is not like he acts like he knows more than that. And if we go with his opinion on lolis yeah they are retarded but unlike most of the normalfags, he doesn't want to ban them from anime or manga.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 16:54:04 No.2144294

>>2143881
He can have whatever opinions on loli he likes, Connor's problem is a little less obvious: it's his stance on gatekeeping and community insulation. He's of the opinion that everything should be 100% accessible, casualized, modernized etc, and to hell with the established culture or history. Which, who cares right, but that stance is beginning to affect us.
There are actually a fuckton of e-celebs who have let it be known that they are very big fans of hololive, but when asked a lot of them will tell you that they don't want to get too close with them - at least publicly - because of the problems it could cause to their careers, given the nature and idol culture of Hololive, which they partake in. They are (including, btw, Gigguk and Joey) content to watch from the sidelines and participate as a fan, on equal standing with the other goslings, as is a core tenet of the idol experience.
Connor though? No fucks given of course. Out of the three of them, it is obvious that he is the least into Vtubers, yet he has no qualms about trying to publicly befriend the Holos. Ame ignored him, smart girl she is, but Ollie...
Ollie is the weak link. She came into Hololive acting like a Vshojo essentially, which was never really an issue prior to this due to the endearing, if subservient 'simp' character she played. However, she has since shown that, unlike other Holos, she will associate with literally whomever as intimately as she pleases. Holostars, it's understandable since she's part of the same company, but it's ownly grown worse. E-celebs, seeing that the nigh impenetrable Hololive network has developed a vulnerability, have declared open season on Ollie, who has accepted them all with open arms.
None of this is bad in theory, but everybody knows that behavior like this threatens to jeopardize the walled garden nature of Hololive and dilute the elements that made it so unique and appealing in the first place.

TL;DR As much as I otherwise like the guy, Connor is a loud, stupid westerner

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:01:38 No.2144404 >>2138408 >I've never heard somebody do that. Here is another

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:08:06 No.2144481 >>2144294 This

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:18:45 No.2144641 >>2144404 Fuck off Joey

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:20:44 No.2144668 >>2141776 Superchats are donations. They have no contractual obligations towards you.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:26:56 No.2144757 >>2138311 >>2138559 >Japan needs to be more progressive to the lgbt and other political shit that isn't japan, otaku or anime related Have i have missed some episode because i don't remember them ever saying that?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:29:42 No.2144811 >>2144668 Not legally perhaps, but socially? Of course they do. If they piss off the audience, there goes the money and the cushy job. They know this, and so they don't piss off the audience. Again, it's just a simple transaction.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:35:52 No.2144918

>>2144294
>yet he has no qualms about trying to publicly befriend the Holos
Do you think he has malicious ideas when he does that or is it just him not thinking when doing it? There has been a lot of accusations of him grooming Ollie or trying to use her in this board. But i am glad that there is finally one anon who fully explained his problem with Connor.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:36:21 No.2144928

>>2144641
I can understand the reasoning, getting to know the characters forms an emotional relationship with it. Fapping to them feels like a betrayal of that. That's why I don't get involved into some series, they produce so much good art that I wouldn't be able to fap to anymore after getting into them

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 17:55:54 No.2145244

>>2144918
>Do you think he has malicious ideas when he does that or is it just him not thinking when doing it?
Neither. He DOESN'T have malicious ideas but he IS thinking when he does it. Again, he doesn't care about rocking the boat, he believes every Holo should essentially be a normal Twitch streamer, doing whatever the hell they want whenever they please with no consideration to the audience.
>here has been a lot of accusations of him grooming Ollie
You will see a lot of these grooming accusations. Being charitable, what they mean by grooming is not the literal definition, but that they are befriending Ollie, thereby teaching her that it is okay to continue going down this road/Hololive's culture is wrong/etc. Essentially bringing her around to their way of thinking.

To put it concisely, grooming = converting her from a Holo to a normal streamer, like them. She is seemingly receptive.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 18:09:42 No.2145567

>>2145244
So do you think they will let Connor collab with her or any Holo member because his manager is part of Kadokawa and he can complain to manager about it.?I personally can't see it happening otherwise if Kadokawa doesn't threat Cover for stopping their sponsorship if they don't let Connor to collab?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 18:20:57 No.2145849 >>2145567 That's not really how those sorts of business relationships work and I don't know. Nobody except the Holos and management does.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 18:24:15 No.2145934

>>2144757
They talked about how japan doesn't allow gays to marry and they all agreed it was fucked up, and they said japan needs to step up their game.
Joey even made a video about how there should be more yuri anime so that lgbt is more widely accepted there. Connor looked up if gays could get married in his videos and said that it was fucked up that gays can't marry in japan. He's also really careful about misgendering crossdressers, even though they laughed and said that they don't give two shits.
They also have some political opinions here and there.
I remember this stuff really well because I hate politics and how it ends up censoring things or making things worse, mainly how sony hates anime girls with censoring japanese games and even shutting down their japanese studios and moving to california.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 18:31:40 No.2146124 >>2145849 Yeah you do have a point. I think it would be just interesting to know what kinda deal they got and was just that one podcast that was allowed.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 18:36:56 No.2146246 >>2145934 Those opinions are pretty normalfag tier though. >He's also really careful about misgendering crossdressers He probably doesn't want to get cancelled so wants to be careful about that.

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 18:55:04 No.2146715

>>2144811
>Again, it's just a simple transaction
But it's not
This isn't employee-customer relationship, this is just you being generous to someone who does entertainment for free
Giving vtubers is just the high-specs equivalent of giving a homless guy at the park playing guitar a dollar

Anonymous Fri, Apr 2, 2021 19:58:11 No.2148342

>>2146715
But it is. You would be correct if you're talking about an indie who has next to no operational costs and starts from zero, but this is a corporation. Have you not seen the countless threads about signed vtubers and groups getting graduated because they didn't make enough returns?
Hololive IS in fact a customer-employee relationship in every way shape or form. If the Holos don't make money, they WILL get fired. It's a good thing that they're all making bank, but that doesn't change the reality of the situation.

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