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https://youtu.be/DxWLXLsmwA8
And the funny thing is both of them get mocked by Enna.

>> No.20678722

>>20678406
Suisei can praise them all she want. ID would still be mediorce. Except for Moona. She has Pekora to leech off.

>> No.20678958
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>>20678406
Q&A=E is read as Kawaii

>> No.20679039

>>20678958
I bet you don’t know that Alice&U pretty much Ayunda Risu

>> No.20679112

But Suisei is a mediocre singer whose career is built on hype instead of talent. Her Phony cover is far inferior to Anya's cover.

>> No.20679145

>>20679112
D-d-d-don't make me post THAT.

>> No.20679181

>>20678406
Post proof of Enna mocking I don't believe it.

>> No.20679233

and yet nobody cares about them or any other indogs lol

>> No.20679245

>>20679039
Nah, I knew that. The MV spells it out.

>> No.20679339

I mean, that risu performance was really something else

>> No.20679429

>>20679181
i think the op meant mogged

>> No.20679440

>>20679112
Suisei is still a work in progress but a couple of years from now she will be as good as Sora or AZKi when it comes to performing on a live stage. She still gets over exited in front of a crowd but overall with some hard work I can see this girl having an amazing future in the harsh japanese music industry

>> No.20679450

>>20679339
cope, it was mediocre at best.

>> No.20679660

>>20679181
Moona who?
https://youtu.be/Q_dRL3SMjAM

>> No.20680045

>>20678406
All this confirms is that JP senpais never watched ID's streams before.

>> No.20680048

>>20679660
trash, moona is way better.

>> No.20680086

>>20679112
anya needs more recognition, she has a unique voice
https://streamable.com/2kvpuy

>> No.20680125 [DELETED] 

>>20679660
Enna who?
https://youtu.be/ocP-rNdn12w

>> No.20680189
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20680189

>>20679660
>use this as a proof
really nijinigger? really? kek

>> No.20680192

>>20680045
Except Towa

>> No.20680525

>>20679660
That's not even good tho

>> No.20680600

>>20680125
>Opera voice
Lmao
Lol even. Sora(An above avg singer) from Holo was able to replicate this without music and I know this while hating Hololive

>> No.20680654

>>20680525
Meds anon, meds

>> No.20680913

>>20679660
is this supposed to be good?

>> No.20680941

>>20679660
disliked
even Sana is better than this whore

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20681058

>>20680654
>That's not even good tho
>Meds anon, meds
forcing your opinion is bad anon, just because you like it doesn't mean everyone must to

>> No.20681097 [DELETED] 

>>20680600
Proof?

>> No.20681140
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20681140

>>20678958
>>20679039

>> No.20681150

>>20679660
Anon, that was a bit painful to listen to... I'm going to assume you're just funposting.

>> No.20681160

>>20681097
not gonna spoon feed you anon, do your fucking reps

>> No.20681213 [DELETED] 

>>20681160
>source: his ass

>> No.20681223

>>20679660
Wow this made me appreciate Noel, Fauna, and Noel more.. that was literall fucking trash

>> No.20681333 [DELETED] 

If you are gonna use a niji en singer to bait suiseifags at least use a talented one like reimu. Enna is trash

>> No.20681381

>>20678958
>>20679039
And High Tide is…?

>> No.20681554

>Oricon charter and Hololive JP's star Hoshimachi Suisei kneeling to an ID who builds stuff for Pekora in Minecraft and an ID tree rat who gets no views

Not like this...

>> No.20681584 [DELETED] 

>>20678406
Please dont embarrass enna like this anon. I love her for hanging out with millie but there is no way in hell shes anywhere close to suisei, risu or mooners

>> No.20681673

>>20681097
>>20681213
https://youtu.be/OrjeQiDtNaU
https://youtu.be/ggYVJiKyUf8
https://youtu.be/VUyR_Rd2ElI
https://youtu.be/Z_QaHqLYcAU

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20681693

>>20681160
>proof
>th-th-th-there's no proof
>anyway do your reps okay?
really? holykek

>> No.20681722

if only Risu sang more than once a year

>> No.20681758

>>20681381
thigh high

>> No.20681811

>>20681693
now say that without crying

>> No.20682094

Enna does mog Moona and Risu. It's not even close either.
The other anon chose a bad song to use as an example, not because Enna doesn't sing it well, because she does, but because it has like a 40 second build up where she isn't even singing and you retards have no attention span.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-NH2jrO6s

>> No.20682343

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eTbqidnfdU
Enna is really good though

>> No.20682408

>>20679660
This must be bait

>> No.20682636

>>20678406
Suisei is just being humble.
She knows those ID vtubers cant sing for shit

>> No.20682679

>>20682094
Good voice,
Not better than Moona or Risu still

>> No.20682696

>>20682343
>1:14
ok i fucking kneel

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>>20682094
>>20682343
Well, I mean if you need to choose a suitable song to prove her good it just means she is good at that kind of song then, same as Moona, Risu, and many other vtubers. They have their own genre.

And why do you guys feel the need to prove [insert chuuba] is superior to [[the other chuuba]? Can't you guys just enjoy it like a normal human being?

>> No.20682913

Alright, unironically being serious.
Enna doesn't mog Moona at all. In fact I would put them close to each other in terms of skill. What Moona lacks that Enna has is diction, while Enna lacks the vocal texture that Moona has. They're both good singers but different skillsets.

Show me a song where Enna struggles and maybe I can form a complete opinion, since I can tell where Moona struggles, since I've watched a lot of her karaoke streams. Also I'd put Elira on the level of Enna, and I haven't heard Millie sing yet.

>>20682679
Different skillsets. Enna is more stable, but Risu is more versatile, that's all.

>> No.20683013

>>20682871
>copes because he heard Enna singing leagues better than holos
>"why do you guys feel the need to prove [insert chuuba] is superior to [[the other chuuba]? Can't you guys just enjoy it like a normal human being?"
>reads thread title
you did it to yourself anon

>> No.20683065

>>20678406
If you watched the rest of the stream instead of the cherry picked indog trash you'd know she pretty much praised everyone else who sang in in a high note because she's not good at that. Try harder to make yourselves relevant indogs. You aren't pathetic enough yet.

>> No.20683084

>>20682094
never even heard of this vtuber but wow that song hits me hard in the heart for some reason. great voice

>> No.20683102

>>20682913
>Show me a song where Enna struggles and maybe I can form a complete opinion, since I can tell where Moona struggles, since I've watched a lot of her karaoke streams. Also I'd put Elira on the level of Enna, and I haven't heard Millie sing yet.
Who do you want me to compare her to then?
A powerhouse or someone with technique?

>> No.20683161

>>20682343
>>20682094
You are trying too hard to shill yourself enna. Have some shame

>> No.20683195

>>20679660
Not even the best singer of her gen.

>> No.20683202
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRCk6VLtFNY

>> No.20683369

>>20683102
anyone anon

>> No.20683452

>>20683102
Elira isn't on the same level as Enna at all. My personal Nijisanji singing tier list is:

SS
Enna

S
Millie
Yugo

A
Elira
Uki

B
Sonny
Ike
Shu
Finana

C
Alban
Reimu

Shit
Everyone else

how would you rank your HoloENs? I'm curious and would appreciate your opinion for comparison :)

>> No.20683487

Solo version of God Sees All during Enna's karaoke stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA7sSBPCmFo

>> No.20683535

>Hololive tribal thread
>became a Nijisanji shill thread
Huh?

>> No.20683556

This thread is literally Moona getting shit on by Enna with no rebuttal lol

>> No.20683560 [DELETED] 

>>20681811
Anon stop projecting its embarrassing lol

>> No.20683614

>>20683452
This is a pretty damn near perfect list IMO.
Enna is definitely, without a doubt, the cream of the crop when it comes to singing ability in NijiEN.

>> No.20683639 [DELETED] 

>>20681673
Bro i love her and shes of holo queen but she cannot do opera singing im sorry anon stop coping

>> No.20683676

Moona's song was wildly different and in a completely different language than what everyone else was doing.

Saying she's the best based on that is actually comparing apples and oranges.

>> No.20683843 [DELETED] 

>no one will argue about moona coz everyone knoes shes trash
>deflect by downplaying enna or talking about better singers instead

>> No.20683965

>>20683843
i'm enjoying nijisharts seething, go on continue

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>>20683013
>copes because he heard Enna singing leagues better than holos
I genuinely don't understand why you treated it as a coping mechanism. Is being a tribal flag a must for nijisanji fans?

>> No.20683977 [DELETED] 

>>20683452
>Reimu C tier
Fuck off
https://youtu.be/z5qXEZq6MEU

>> No.20684034

>>20678406
>suisei praises the two she doesn't feel threatened by
sasuga mariokart crybaby

>> No.20684057

>>20683535
This is what happened when you name a thread like that, fucking falsflagger coming in hot

>> No.20684066

>>20678406
>both of them get mocked by Enna
yes
>best singers in Holo
no
Any more questions, my little seamonkey friend?

>> No.20684111

>>20683535
insecure nijisharts, pls andastand

>> No.20684124

>>20683369
>>20683452

ok since you did not specify who, i will give both the examples
1)For the Power:
https://youtu.be/07CdumHTeOo
And btw, I am picking up some of the most viewed songs by her anon, so it does not feel like I am picking her songs when she is at her worst.

https://youtu.be/0tk0AJ-JEHI
This is Kanata from Holo
They both have a similar level of skills/technique but Kanata is by far the better singer here anon and that is simply because Enna was too weak at the lower pitch part of this song anon. Their high pitch voice feels similar, but she really sucked in changing the tones in the middle of the song.

Now let me bring the technique based singer here
https://youtu.be/pWtpuPuypoA

Now see the difference in the skill for yourself.
Enna without a doubt has a way better gifted voice than IRyS, but pales in comparison because for IRyS shifting of tones is literally nothing for her. Enna having a better voice does not make her a better singer in lot of cases.
She has been grinding for more than 10 years to master the technique and that is because like the other singer in Holo Niji like Gura, Moona, Risu, Enna, Elira, etc she does not have the gifted voice. She is a pure product of hardwork and it makes her singing standout this often. The only problem that one may point out with IRyS is that her voice is not as distinctive as Enna, Elira, etc.

>> No.20684165

>>20683977
That was cute, and very sweet. I haven't seen this before. But would you put it above Finana's singing? I wouldn't, though I probably enjoyed her charm a little more than Finana's.

>> No.20684276

>>20684124
Vocal range =/= singing talent
that being said, Kanata is amazing and my favourite holosinger
t. niji

>> No.20684347

>>20684124
>both songs are in different keys
are you fucking retarded anon?

>> No.20684422

why is it so impossible for people to enjoy things in their own right, it's pretty sad

>> No.20684492

>>20684422
people normally do that, but we're in /vt/ anon

>> No.20684504

>>20684124
Enna is in the key of A, and Kanata is a whole step higher, do you know how music/singing works anon?

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>>20684124
>because Enna was too weak at the lower pitch part
t b h that's the only weakness she has but the majority of the song Enna kills the competition.
Once the song tempo picks up it's not even comparable as to who is better.

>> No.20684577

>>20684124
I see that you know nothing about music theory. In your own examples, Kanata struggles with lower notes, at the later low part of the song she even missed half of the notes, because she wasn't able to control it.
On the Irys example, she had shown a really poor tone control. Just listen to the melodic line of the original, and you'll see that Enna did everything near perfectly, while Irys failed around 30%. Based on a single example, I would put Irys somewhere below Elira in terms of technique, but I need more examples to know.
And I would recommend you to abstain from posting about something you don't know anything about.

>> No.20684662

>>20684124
This is such a weird comparison, since Enna still mogs kanata here, kanatas nasal tone is due to her lack of real power (head) . Whereas enna can sing in full chest voice no prob

>> No.20684664

How does a niji have so many fans here? What is going on?

>> No.20684680

>>20683535
always have been

>> No.20684708

can someone please prove these fags wrong im turning into a nijinigger

>> No.20684714

Enna is trash just like the rest of NijiEN.

>> No.20684782
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>>20684664
because she's superior anon

>> No.20684791

>>20683556
No one knows about Enna to give a rebuttal. Like who gives a shit lol.

>> No.20684792
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20684792

>>20684664
enna is our pride and joy, our angel of music & song

>> No.20684793

>>20684714
If Enna is trash, and the entire holo are objectively much worse than her, then what word can be used to describe holos? Feces?

>> No.20684831

>>20684577
Are you kidding me?
Kanata actually did better than her even at the high pitch point.
>>20684554
Nigga what?
I have and thats why i said this.
IRyS had more of a uniform tone than Enna. Listen to them side by side and then tell me. Also look Enna struggles way more than IRyS
>>20684662
again what?

>> No.20684870

>phonefilename
>nijinigger
>ESL
Name a more iconic trio

>> No.20684887

>>20684831
>esl

>> No.20684898

>>20684831
We've already established you don't know shit about music theory. Stop posting and embarrassing yourself further.

>> No.20684947

>>20684898
>We've already established you don't know shit about music theory. Stop posting and embarrassing yourself further.
By doing what, proving my point right?

>> No.20684959

>>20684793
Your 2view will never be successful. Keep coping.

>> No.20684997

>NijiEN finally gets some good singers after having non for the longest time
>Use them to shit on Hologirls
Shameless.

>> No.20685007

>>20684898
Nigger, stop larping as if you know anything when you're copying opinions off youtube comments LOL

>> No.20685049

>>20684997
cope
Your talents are literal dog shit as proved by this anon>>20684124

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20685083

>>20684791
>skill comparison thread
>loses
>y-yeah but, n-numbers...
holy shit, i've never seen someone get mogged this hard before

>> No.20685094

>>20684947
>>20685007
Why did you reply to my post twice? Did I make you mald that badly, retard-kun?
Come back when you can tell what key people are singing in lmao

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>>20684898
see
>>20684577

>> No.20685179

waiting warmly for holokeks to actually provide a track that outdoes the enna ones already posted.
come on guys, you're the top of the totem pole right? this should be easy!

>> No.20685180

>>20684831
>Kanata actually did better than her even at the high pitch point.
I see, it's not use discussing music with someone incompetent in topic, you'll stay arrogant and biased. I bet you didn't even listen to Enna's example and just shitposting to annoy everyone.

>> No.20685194

>>20681381
All of the lyrics are literally about the moon and the tides it's producing via it's gravitational affect on earth and it's using that subject metaphorically to exalt Moona and that took me way too fucking long to notice, at least how it literally describes the tides.

>> No.20685197

>>20684124
>>20684554
>>20684577
>>20684662
>>20684831
As someone hearing these songs for the first time, I will rank them as Kanata>IRyS>=Enna.
Before you make conclusions, i dont even watchg Holo and Niji but on my enjoyment, Kanata was better than both and I enjoyed IRys more

>> No.20685245

>>20685197
>posters didnt go up
anon...

>> No.20685267

>>20684959
Ah, finally holokek disclosed the only metric they use to measure music performance quality - numbers. Have a good day, clown.

>> No.20685318

>>20685197
yes, i replied in the beginning calling op a faggot, why?

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>>20685197
This but the opposite way around.
I don't know who Enna is since I don't care about Nipplesanji but she's a good singer, I'll give her that.
Shame she's still a holoreject

>> No.20685386

>>20685320
Do you really think the 40 year old shut in gamer dog could do a frontwheel with perfect form on command?

>> No.20685405

>>20685320
enna didn't apply for hololive, she only joined because her mates millie and elira wanted her to have somewhere she could express her talent.

>> No.20685410
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>>20685094
>samefagging
classic niji defence. And before you say anything, I am on my fuckin phone as I am about to sleep

>> No.20685454

>>20685410
>Took him over 6 minutes to inspect element.
Embarrassing.

>> No.20685458

>>20685245
meant to tag you here>>20685245

>> No.20685484

>>20685320
>Shame she's still a holoreject
Nah, she never applied to holo, she just went to the same place where MIllie applied.
And, as we know, the entire Hololive was rejected by Millie.

>> No.20685518

>>20685410
>phone posting esl with 1500x1400 phone
do you post on an ipad?

>> No.20685535

>>20685454
anon, I just proved you wrong, no point in crying
>>20685180
How is she better than Kanata at high pitched anon?
How?

>> No.20685575

>>20685484
also not true, they were groomed by elira to apply to nijisanji since they are pl friends.

>> No.20685586

>>20685484
Good thing she reject mona offer, why the fuck would a flip joining ID branch

>> No.20685630

>>20685518
anon, there is a function called zooming that you might not have heard about

>> No.20685667
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20685667

>120 posts into thread
>0 rebuttal from Holobronies
ohhh im coooming

>> No.20685683

>>20685535
Taking 5 minutes to inspect element isn't proving anything.
Funny how the 'other guy' mysteriously stopped replying while you damage controlled, isn't it?
If you're going to samefag, do it properly. It's clear you're the only retard here trying to save face because you got mogged by everyone replying to you on how dumb you are and how little you understand about music theory.

>> No.20685718

>>20685630
zooming doesnt change resolution? show full phone screenshot without cropping anything then

>> No.20685765 [DELETED] 

>>20684708
No one is gonna argue enna is better than moona faggot thats why theyre deflecting using kanata or suisei

>> No.20685776

>>20685683
anon, you really expect me to photoshop on my phone?
Atleast use your fuckin brain cells

>> No.20685823

>>20685776
then post full uncropped phone anon

>> No.20685831

>>20685718
You know what, believe what you fuckin want now anon, i am done wasting my time here

>> No.20685839

>>20685535
Already discussed that.
I am not sure if you are that anon who is trash in music theory, but let's assume you are not.
Every music piece uses scales, some of them switch between scales, but most use one. Basically you can take any song, and increase/decrease tone of the scale, or, as some call it "change the key". So, Enna was singing in a lower key than Kanata, and I guess that you assumed that she didn't hit Kanata's high notes, because she is not good enough, but in reality she did that on purpose, because otherwise she would go out of the song's scale and ruin the song. Now when you go and listen to the highest part of the songs in both examples (regardless of the key), and listen to the melodic line of the original song, you'll hear that Kanata missed some notes in the those parts, because she struggled with them, while Enna did mostly fine.

>> No.20685843

>>20685776
Now you're just playing dumb. Inspect element takes seconds to do. There's no photoshop involved.

>> No.20685846

>>20685667
why are you so insecure ?

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20685887

>>20685831
bye

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>>20679660
>posting a random Higurashi cover
>not WISH OF THIS SONGBIRD, her ORIGINAL song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6-Jjovz-o
Fuck is wrong with you?

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>>20678722
Based, I kneel

>> No.20685940

>>20685846
>43ip
>134post
everyone just straight ignoring this guy lmfao probably seething and replying every post here

>> No.20685950

>>20685846
from being constantly told my talents are worse since their numbers are smaller
t. ex holo

>> No.20685977

geez what did this thread turn into?

>> No.20686001

>>20685977
enna appreciation thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-8YnGlcRA0

>> No.20686011 [DELETED] 

>>20685977
The truth
Also proves moona is nowhere close to suisei in sheer talent and singing

>> No.20686023

>click on thread expecting hoshiyomi and moonafics to go at each other
>instead a sweaty nijinigger is trying to shill herself
Nobody will ever watch you, just give up.

>> No.20686043

>>20678406
Who's Enna?

>> No.20686070

>>20686043
Your beloved daddy.

>> No.20686077

>>20686043
a nijibird who wastes time on streaming when she should be singing

Not many such cases, but this one stings a good bit.

>> No.20686078 [DELETED] 

>>20686043
Someone better than moona

>> No.20686084

>>20686001
honestly curious, i like her but how do you guys actually claim her to be better than Moona or Risu anon?
I was reading posts by people that she is more skilled than even IRyS and thats when i came to know that people here have no idea about IRyS and co

>> No.20686087

>>20686023
pretty sure she got 10k viewers yesterday, which isn't half bad for a niji

>> No.20686127

>>20685977
I always see this one schizo shill Enna on every singer 1 better than singer 2 thread. probably same schizo

>> No.20686137 [DELETED] 

>>20686084
Bro irys sounds like your generic anime op dime a dozen vocalist

>> No.20686168

>>20686084
IRyS isn't even good by Hololive singing standards, sorry anon. As for Moona/Risu I haven't seen a single song of her's posted in here to compare, so I don't think anyone really thinks they're better either. Not bad at all, just not better.

>> No.20686186

>>20686127
yeah same. For some reason the Enna schiozs used to target Suisei and IRyS. Noe they have found their new target.
Are her fans this retarded?

>> No.20686219

>>20686137
This but unironically.
Enna's unique deep mature vocals are a delight to listen to.
IRyS sounds like any other female singer. No originality at all.

>> No.20686241

>>20686137
>>20686168
And my point still stands.
Some one who has not listened to IRyS will say this.
Because her live songs seem like she is singing in a fuckin studio

>> No.20686245

Enna schizos remind me of the Suisei schizos back in /jp/ two years ago.

>> No.20686255

>>20686077
>wastes time on streaming when she should be singing
I guess that would be Reimu. Even though she is not as good as Enna, she's the one who is wasting her singing talent.

>> No.20686292

>>20686241
She was already posted here >>20684124 anon, she's pretty generic, but feel free to prove me wrong. Please post your favorite song by her

>> No.20686424

>>20686084
I can describe Moona, Risu, Irys, and basically 99.9% of singing vtubers as "experienced karaoke singers", while Enna sings like an actual professional and talented singer.

>> No.20686467

>>20686292
and how is generic wrong anon?
Putting my biases aside, she does not have a sexy/cute unique voice but if you think about it, Ed Sheeran does not have a unique voice, he is still an amazing artist.
Also saying that all her songs sound like an anime op, what a fuckin joke. She legit can nail any song you throw at her.
I am not trying to compare her with anyone but for me she is actually the best singer in En/ID of Niji-Holo sphere

>> No.20686499

>>20678406
Enna can't even do vibrato properly rumao.

>> No.20686507
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20686507

>>20686424
Sure anon, sure

>> No.20686574

>>20686467
Ed Sheeran has a unique voice, and I didn't mean that the thing Enna had over IRyS was a "unique" voice, just that it's hard to distinguish IRyS from most other singers, she has a similar tone. But im not trying to epicz pwnz0r you, i really do wanna hear your oshi's best song :)

>> No.20686601

>>20686219
>>20686137
ask me how i know you know nothing about her

>> No.20686605

>>20686467
>Also saying that all her songs sound like an anime op, what a fuckin joke. She legit can nail any song you throw at her.
So what are you waiting for then? Get posting them.
As of now she sounds like a basic bitch with a basic bitch voice.

>> No.20686607

>>20686241
>Because her live songs seem like she is singing in a fuckin studio
No, they don't sound like studio-quality songs. The only one I can clearly say sings live in studio quality is one VR (niji china) girl Azusa.

>> No.20686640 [DELETED] 

>>20686241
Bro i hate moona and i think irys is the best holoen streamer but even i think moona mogs irys. She is by far no where close to enna or suisei

>> No.20686658

>>20686507
Let me guess, you are a faggot who measures singing talent in numbers. Am I right?

>> No.20686685

>>20683452
I would like to go ahead and put in a Selen tier below Shit tier. It's actually kind of endearing how tone deaf she is.

>> No.20686727

>>20686685
Its called being chinese which is a step up from being a seanig like a flip or worse, pinoy

>> No.20686782

I personally think that each singer has their own things they’re good at. Since Moona is the one I regularly watch, I can only give my opinion on her. Her specialty is her belting and power vocals, that’s where she stands out the most.
https://youtu.be/fZgJkvl8yKY
https://youtu.be/dh_P9e4-T38
https://youtu.be/1oHJ9Z-XCTA
https://youtu.be/yABwn5ZM-TU
And things like what she pulled off here
https://youtu.be/vbTp4i7lXW4
My personal favorite:
https://youtu.be/6xV_rZ26N28

>> No.20686783
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it's kinda hilarious that Enna, Moona and IRYS, despite their vocal talent and reps all kneel to a dumpy white girl with an average voice

>> No.20686816

>>20686727
Millie must be pretty good for being a flip and better at singing than 99% other singing vtubers.

>> No.20686865 [DELETED] 

>>20686727
Wtf is a “pinoy” but im pretry sure you cant go worse than a chink thats the lowest shit you can ever give someone to
Btw selen is a hongkonger so shes not even a shit eating chink

>> No.20686915 [DELETED] 

>>20686783
Stfu mori nobody likes your shit il take vshojo singing over your “music”

>> No.20686935

>>20686574
since you asked so nicely, i will share some of the songs with you
IRyS is japanese so her Japanese songs>English songs

https://youtu.be/Aa4EAdsz0_E
https://youtu.be/TxBLSlFKb10
https://youtu.be/7GMHGFyf8Ws
https://youtu.be/or46Uiqa2Oo
>>20686605
>>20686658
>>20686607
https://youtu.be/rDyZ3VgjcCE
https://youtu.be/Cfx6Iy1I8pc
Here, and Geez are Enna shit poster this bad?
You are making your Oshi look bad

>> No.20687048

>>20686782
That's a really nice post, anon. No unnecessary dick-measuring, straight facts that, regardless of their experience and talent, every vtuber singer has a strong and weak sides and, with a proper training and practice, can improve their singing ability.
I am an Ennafag myself, and find your point the most valid among this whole thread.

>> No.20687050

>>20686915
keep coping, nijifriend
https://streamable.com/f9vlyx

>> No.20687103

>>20686783
Take your brap-sounding whore and leave this thread immediately!

>> No.20687111

>>20686935
Listening now and then I'll give my judgement.

>> No.20687118

>>20686935
Ok after hearing her first song, I kneel. Have not heard the rest but damn she is goood despite the generic voice.
I still prefer Enna because of her unique and distinct voice but IRyS is up there for sure
:)

>> No.20687193

Fuck off to another singer, Moona is the best, and no one linked to her best song, I love this song, no wonder she mogs both holo and niji

https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8

>> No.20687226

>>20686935
Legit a disney princess

>> No.20687254

>>20683452
For exclusively HoloEN? Ranking purely in terms of skill and not enjoyment, excluding Council because I don't really watch them enough to have an opinion:

Irys > Gura (in range) > Kiara > Gura (out of range) > Mori (in range, not rapping) > Ina > Mori (out of range, rapping) > consider a different career >>> Amelia

I feel like there's a ton of fluctuation in Myth's singing quality. I can't fucking stand Mori rapping, but her regular singing voice is quite pleasant. Gura has a very nice singing voice, but she clearly has 0 training because she sounds horribly strained when she gets out of her comfort zone. Kiara has a great singing voice when she's singing normally, but every so often she insists on singing in her chicken voice and it's like nails on a chalkboard, you can't sing while straining your throat like that.

>> No.20687454

>>20686935
I think its unfair to compare her with Enna as they are very different.
IRyS is a skilled singer with technique whereas Enna is powerhouse singer.
Different type of singers

>> No.20687574

>>20686935
Pretty good. Has a "generic japanese girl" singing voice, similar to Marine's. She displays quite a decent ability to sing japanese pop songs, clearly experienced in this direction. She is clearly better than the rest of HoloEN.
Wouldn't put her above Enna, though, because of voice, and Enna's wider range of techniques, like decent opera and enka.

>> No.20687632

>>20678406
It doesn't matter since they're from Indonesia and no one likes Muslims.

>> No.20687694

>>20686935
I mean thats fair but I will say her technique and ability are more advanced than Enna as she does not struggle in shifting between different ranges/tones and has a better rhythm than Enna.

>> No.20687800

>>20686935
Putting my biases aside, I think she is better than all of Niji en except Enna, from what i can see she is more consistent than her but cant quite top Enna at her best

>> No.20687820
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>>20686935
K I've listened to them all now. She can certainly sing but I'm not into her voice. Does nothing for me. The guy who said she's a Disney princess isn't wrong, but therein lies the problem for me because I can't stand Disney style music and her voice is literally Disney incarnate. Her voice lacks the emotion I crave for.
I like to hear some melancholy in their voice, something aged and refined.
Enna is still without a doubt better IMO. I know this because I have no desire to go back to listen to any more of IRyS tracks. They're just not my thing.
Meanwhile I listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-NH2jrO6s every day at least once.
I can feel the emotion and strong friendship between Enna and Millie in their vocals and it touches my stone heart like no other.

>> No.20687836

>>20687694
>shifting between different ranges
>has a better rhythm
Hello, anon, who doesn't know anything about music theory. Long time no see.
You know, I envy your shamelessness. I wouldn't ever dare to post something in a topic I don't know shit about. You'd make a great salesman.

>> No.20687963

>>20683452
>How would I rank the HoloENs

SS
IRyS

S
Gura
Baelz

A
Mumei

B
Kiara
Mori

C
Kronii
Ina

Shit
Everyone else

>> No.20688027

>>20687820
i mean fair take but then again, there is a reason she is in an idol company. She is expected to sing like an idol in that case. People saying she is "bad" or "Worse than Millie" are incorrect as they are different types of singer. And people claiming she does not have the Millie tone is like saying going to a Rock concert and asking for a pop concert

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>>20687820
You took the words right out of my mouth fellow Aloupeep. I've got nothing to add.

>> No.20688045

>>20687963
>Gura
>S
Opinion discarded, unless it's your subjective taste, without any takes on singing skills/talent

>> No.20688050

>>20678406
I have been putting Risu at the top of every "rank the Hololive singers" list going all the way back to the days of /jp/. Feels good to finally be validated among the greater populace. You guys just figured out what I have known for almost 2 years now.

>> No.20688134

>>20688027
This. Irys is better at some singing aspects/directions, Millie is better in others.

>> No.20688154

>>20687836
anon what are you saying?
I am legit trying to give constructive criticism and am the one who posted the IRyS songs.

>> No.20688174
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20688174

For me, it's Finana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_TLQsaAgU

>> No.20688240

You Enna schizo should've just argue with Gura schizo, now that's entertainment. both is like talking with a brickwall

>> No.20688262

>>20688027
i meant Enna*

>> No.20688266

>>20686935
She's just fine, I'm sorry anon, I don't have any bad intention (im the anon your quoted) but I still stand by saying she is fine, I would put her in A tier singing (which is great). In fact, if I were to add some Holos to my NijiEN singing list:

SS
Enna
Suisei (Holo)

S
Kanata (Holo)
Millie
Yugo

A
Towa (Holo)
Elira
IRyS (Holo)
Gura (Holo)
Uki
Moona (HoloID)

B
Sonny
Risu (HoloID)
Ike
Shu
Finana

C
Alban
Reimu
Cali

I'm glad your Oshi is a great singer anon, have a great day sorry if you felt attacked

>> No.20688281

Enna is just Risu Lite. Similar styles but she has less power and less range than Risu.

>> No.20688358

>>20688281
Yeah, she can't hit high ranges nearly as well as Risu. Risu is what Enna would be if Enna was actually good.

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>>20688174
>1,1 million views
>When she usually has 1000 ccv on a great day
I don't know how she can see these numbers and go 'yeah I should stream more Genshin' instead of moving heaven and earth to put out even a short digital album.

Goddamn it you stupid feesh, get your act together.

>> No.20688391

>>20683452
>Elira isn't on the same level as Enna at all.
Elira gets more out of her vibrato than Enna does, fuck outta here.

>> No.20688407

>>20688368
Feesh is stupid, unlike based Nina "More subs than Pomu" Kosaka

>> No.20688420

>>20688266
This is probably the worst list I have ever seen in the history of this board. That is saying a lot.

>> No.20688451

>>20688266
>yles but she has
Np, I mean i myself will not put her above some of the Holo's but I feel she is legit the best En singer and Enna fans are actually making me grow crazy
If i had to make a list of best singers in Holo/Niji

SS
Izuru, Towa
S+
Suisei, Chima(niji)

S
Astel, Kanata, IRyS, Watame, Enna

>> No.20688497

>>20688154
Oh, then there are many anons who don't know anything about the topic.
Let me explain then:
>shifting between different ranges
In music, chromatic range and vocal range means total instrument/vocalist range, not the distance between notes. I think the term you want is "pitch interval". But no, if you listen to a good amount of Irys's and Enna's song, you'll see that Irys's doesn't have better tone control than Enna.
>has a better rhythm
Rhythm is the term that can only be applied to the piece of music, not the performer. I believe the better one would be "rhythm feel" or something in those lines. But no, Enna always executes her song rhythm perfectly, unless she's memeing.

>> No.20688498

>>20688391
Post best song by Elira, this is now a Niji/Holo music appreciation thread
>>20688451
is this by personal enjoyability or singing talent

>> No.20688519

What i have learned today,
Enna fans are worse than Vox fans and Gura fans put together

>> No.20688520 [DELETED] 

>>20687050
You can be a fan of someone worse than you. Hell i used to love listening to william hung ironically

>> No.20688579

>>20688497
You wanna hear someone who has no musical rhythm? Check this shit out lmao
https://youtu.be/Lmdz1C1rzXM?t=351
I love shu, he's a great guy but holy shit I cringed at his debut and comepletely missed the rest due to this

>> No.20688591 [DELETED] 

>>20687963
>baelz s rank
Wtf

>> No.20688605

>>20688451
>Izuru
>SS
Lmao, are you stoned, anon? He's C tier at most. Those squeals of butchered animal does not count as a good singing.

>> No.20688658

>>20688579
Oh wow.
Fuck me that was cringe. Fuuuuuuuck me that was real cringe, I had to close out a few seconds after he started. I can't take cringe well.

What the fuck Shu

>> No.20688671

>>20688498
>Post best song by Elira, this is now a Niji/Holo music appreciation thread
Best is subjective, I think her best songs are the ones she sings impromptu during her playthroughs, but here's an example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjFrQ8q_taE
Now before someone takes the "shakiness" meme into 100, that's her vibrato right there. Using vibratos on stuff other than belting is amazing, and you can tell that Elira can reach an even lower register without struggling.

>> No.20688672

>>20688579
The guy is quite good at singing, but the problem with him is that he is mostly having fun instead of trying to sound good.

>> No.20688739

>>20688451
Just listened to Izuru's Unravel cover, he has a nice voice, and its doubly cool that he plays the guitar too

>> No.20688805

>>20688497
Anon from what i have seen, IRyS has no problem in changing the shift of her tone in a song. And before you make me the other anon who was saying the same thing, it is because it really seems Enna is struggling having a shift in the tonne in a lot of examples provided.
Like a lot.
And by rhythm, I mean better sense of awareness in knowing while singing a song and singing along the beat. Now you dont have to copy exactly everything the OG singer did here and can add your own twists to make the song sound almost the same with out any notable differences. IRyS is much better at it again anon.
>>20688605
https://youtu.be/rdg6W69fCr0
He is legit the best Vtuber I have heard who sings

>> No.20688819

>anime song singer
>S tier anything
Imagine being this delusional

>> No.20688836
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20688836

I've learned a lot from this thread.
The biggest lesson I've learned is nipplesanji actually has good singers.
Most of the stuff posted featuring them I've liked, I feel kind of...I don't know what I feel actually.
I thought they were all talentless hacks before now.
>Mfw I've enjoyed the music posted here more than Holofest
Very dangerous territory indeed...

>> No.20688879
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I'd agree with this. I don't watch them, but the clips of them singing were by far the best. Normally I hate vtuber singing, but these were surprisingly tolerable.

>> No.20688899

>>20688805
serious question, so try not to get emotional and shit the bed.
are you a 14 year old girl?
the fucks with your taste bro?

>> No.20688900

>>20688739
Still waiting for any vtuber who would sing Unravel close to original. Have listened probably to all of them, but every one of them sounded bad (no offence to performers). I think that Ike from Niji has a decent chance.

>> No.20688909

>>20688671
https://youtu.be/Cd8f-o6Y9-Q?t=85
personally prefer this, cant get enough of DCL, composed by none other than mafumafukun
>>20688819
anon, the angry posting is over. post your oshi's best song please

>> No.20688961

>>20688805
Bruh, never come to the music-related threads again, I beg you.

>> No.20689012

>>20688899
>>20688961
ass blasted samefag

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>>20688836
It's okay to like Vtubers from other companies anon, I really like Fauna and Kanata. Enna is sweet and very sarcastic, check her out sometime, imagine an edgy girl who streams herself making cookies.

>> No.20689078

>>20686935
damn she is literally a whole disney

>> No.20689089

>>20689012
nah nig, swing and a miss. you like the same sort of cringy shit my younger sister used to listen to lmao

>> No.20689095

>>20688805
You are 100% right about Enna struggling. You can noticeably hear her voice break when she tries going high. She can't do it.

The best comparison for Enna is Risu Lite as I have posted before. Similar sound but not nearly as powerful or dynamic as Risu. Enna is Risu if you took all the skill out of Risu.

>> No.20689097

Please listen to my they/them's original
https://youtu.be/dlVWaAQZPag

>> No.20689101

>>20689012
Why are you still here? If you came only to shitpost without knowing the topic, you've done a shitty job.

>> No.20689129

>>20689020
yeah, too bad her fans are fucking obnoxious

>> No.20689143

>>20689089
>>20689101
ass blasted samefag

>> No.20689160

>>20689129
You're on 4chan anon, everyones fans are obnoxious on here

>> No.20689177

>>20689020
Do not watch her if you have an easy bruised ego though. She doesn't hold back punches on fans and will eviserate you on stream if you can't take banter.

>> No.20689181

>>20689095
Fuck of Holobrony. Enna mogs Suisei in terms of singing you dipshit

>> No.20689198

>>20689181
Enna is Risu Lite

>> No.20689252

>>20689198
Risu is a full bodied Belgian Ale while Enna is Bud Lite. That is how I compare their voices.

>> No.20689262

>>20689095
Nah, if you give a proper listening, you'll find out that Irys is a Elira Lite, and Risu is Pomu Lite. They lack any voice control and sing mostly out of tone.

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>>20688909
anons i think im turning into a nipplenigger this was so cute

>> No.20689319

>>20689262
>Elira
>Pomu
Opinion discarded. Enna is the only one who is even halfway decent in NipplesanjiEN and even then she is just Risu Lite.

>> No.20689325

>>20689143
Newfag who doesn't even know how this website works.
And no, the only one ass blasted is you, because your oshi got mogged by Enna.

>> No.20689378

>>20689262
Literally the big 4 niji EN mogg IRyS and Co

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>>20689274
I've been telling myself to leave the thread for the past 20 minutes but I'm a sucker for music threads.
Music always gets me in the end.

>> No.20689389

>ITT: we pretend to be vocal coaches who knows what shit we are talking about
The way Enna rubs her vocal register to give way to her corpus callosum that enables her hypothalamus into a sub-dormant preemptive active state so that the timbre and texture of her second upper palate and her Mongolian shallow-throating technique that enables a whole other set of perfect mid-field pitch is what really makes her stand out compared to other chuuba singers.

>> No.20689423

>>20689319
>Risu
Opinion discarded
Suisei is the only one from the holowhores who is 1% down to the least talented niji singer, wouldn't even call her Selen Lite, because she's too bad for this title.

>> No.20689479

>>20689378
Holo singers in shambles, Niji thriving

>> No.20689520

>>20689262
Delusional. Pomu has a nice voice but she herself would be the first to tell you she's completely untrained.

>> No.20689525

>>20689479
Thank you Shu

>> No.20689528

>>20688909
>spoiler
Lmao, but you understand right?

>> No.20689553

Now that Suisei herself has offered her concession, where were we before Moona became the #1 holo in terms of singing talent?
I remember Kiara and Risu fighting over for the #2 spot.

>> No.20689566

>>20689528
no anon i dont what are you talking about

>> No.20689610

>>20689262
>Irys is a Elira Lite, and Risu is Pomu Lite. They lack any voice control and sing mostly out of tone.
This isn't even good bait, you know that?

>> No.20689623

>>20689198
>>20689252
Hey, it's you, that "Risu Lite" person who was assuring me the other day that he is not samefagging, and here we go, once again, replying to yourself with exactly 1 minute apart.
From now on, if I'll ever see your posts in any other threads, I'll greet you with a single word - "Faggot".

>> No.20689660

Niji fags literally made this thread somehow way worse than it was.
A talent that you wont find anywhere else

>> No.20689678

>>20689553
>Kiara
kek

>> No.20689690

>>20689623
You're anon-lite, and this is 2ch-lite. Do your lite reps

>> No.20689722

>>20689623
Powerful post.
Based.

>> No.20689734

Wake me up when any EN vtuber has a good original song.

>> No.20689741

>>20689610
Weak bait requires a weak bait as a reply. I delivered one.

>> No.20689804

>>20679660
Who? Maybe pick a song with a pulse if you're going to try and start shit lol

>> No.20689826

>>20680600
Sora can't reach those notes and can't maintain them, don't lie anon. Ironmouse actually have classical singing training

>> No.20689837

>>20689734
https://youtu.be/BD6-Jjovz-o?t=72
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8Za0T1T8M
enjoy anon

>> No.20689843

>>20679660
This is the Nijinigger who started it all

>> No.20689890

>>20689843
actually it was OP by saying Enna kneeled to indogs in any facet or facility

>> No.20689904

>>20689837
> 【ORIGINAL SONG】Wish of this Songbird・鳥の願い【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
Actually a banger of a song
> 【MV】HERE COMES HOPE -IRyS【Original Song】
You lost all the respect I had for you anon

>> No.20689905

>>20689734
Any EN? I really do enjoy this one.
https://youtu.be/D-V0EHF30rk

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>>20689734
Already posted it >>20688174
Moona's High Tide is great too.
And Gura's original.
Basically any water themed original is quality.

>> No.20689976

>>20689566
That Elira isn't less skilled than Enna, her singing niche is vibratos while Enna's is classical. Enna has tried vibratos before and it isn't as good as Elira's.

>> No.20689982

The singer is just as good as her original song

>> No.20689987

>>20689904
you definitely didnt listen to both songs in under a minute, why must you be so divisive :(

>> No.20690053

>>20689976
Elira is less skilled than Enna, Vibrato has nothing to do with skill. Elira is great though

>> No.20690104

>>20689987
Nta, but maybe he already heard these songs before.

>> No.20690125

>>20689987
Because i have heard them both before hand

>> No.20690224

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk1edpfEBoE
I love my bird wife.

>> No.20690242

>>20685889
Roll dat dough comin out soon boyos

>> No.20690247
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20690247

>>20689890
>holobronies so desperate to find a reason to dislike NijiEN they literally make shit up
People on this board realize they can just not respond to bait threads right?

>> No.20690266

>>20689837
>【ORIGINAL SONG】Wish of this Songbird・鳥の願い【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
Trash song
>【MV】HERE COMES HOPE -IRyS【Original Song】
Absolute banger

>> No.20690370

>>20690266
Holokeks

>> No.20690575

>>20690053
Vibrato is a skill. They can both hold their tone and sing similar songs. Elira's edge is that she can use her vibratos even without belting, that's a great skill to have as a singer.

>> No.20690578

So, to sum up everything we discussed, anons who think that Enna is not a top singer are:
1. Anons who think that numbers are the only metric of singing talent/skill;
2. Anons who compare her with outer vtubers by using music terminology, but fail miserably, because they display absolute ignorance about music theory;
3. A Faggot ("Risu lite" anon).

>> No.20690591

>>20687254
You should listen to council, they have some awesome singers. Mumei and Kronii always put on enjoyable karaoke streams. I did not find Baes early karaoke streams very good so I dismissed her singing early on but she's released new music that is shockingly good so I'll give her a second shot. Sana doesn't stream so little to say but her limited singing was pretty bad so far. Fauna might somehow be even worse than Amelia, although perhaps only because Amelia is further along in practice.

>> No.20690638

>>20681381
Slap the thigh and ride the wave in.

>> No.20690702

>>20690578
To sum up this anon:
1. He baits people
2. He's a faggot
3. He keeps pushing his oshi as the best despite his oshi only singing comfort songs and nothing else

>> No.20690742

>>20690578
I think you summed it up perfectly yes.

>> No.20690765

>>20690266
Basedola

>> No.20690768

>>20690591
>Mumei, Baes
ok, decent
>Kronii, Fauna, Sana
fuck no

>> No.20690956

>>20690266
Dubs confirms

>> No.20690986

>>20690578
>>20690742
Are you the same anon who told me vibrato isn't a skill? Why are you talking about music terminology and music theory then?

>> No.20691109

>>20690702
>He keeps pushing his oshi as the best
Note, that I used "top" singer, not the "best" singer. Top doesn't mean number 1, it means "on the top, among the best".
>sinnging comfort songs and nothing else
why are you lying, anon? Compared to other vtubers that were discussed in this thread, Enna has the biggest variety of song directions/genres, like opera, pop, enka and others. On the other side, the most discussed Irys is almost exclusively japanese pop.

>> No.20691547

>>20679660
The Moona who got to go on stage in 3D for hundreds of thousands of people in person/online? The Moona who was at HoloFes 3 2022 while Niji canceled theirs because they're incompetant? But thanks for playing Nijisis. Now go back to your company and their failed girl collection.

>> No.20691599

>>20691109
Anon that biggest variety of song directions, Tokino Sora did too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_QaHqLYcAU
Stop pretending that Enka is this hard ass genre when multiple Holos sing it even the unskilled ones. I believe I don't have to mention pop.
Your ass keeps pretending that the Holos can't use chest voice for some reason, when they can, Japanese songs are usually just not conducive to chest voice since a vast majority of them rely on high registers.

>> No.20692137

>>20690578
>anon((s))

>> No.20692425

>>20688519
Nah Aloupeeps are usually just really horny for Enna's tiny chinese feet

>> No.20692671

>>20691599
>Tokino Sora
Bruh, the only time Sora was mentioned in this thread is when someone compared Enna to Ironmouse. On the other note, besides pretty ok opera (despite classical music training), Sora has pretty narrow skillset of japanese pop.
>Stop pretending that Enka is this hard ass genre when multiple Holos sing it even the unskilled ones
Funny thing is that you included example of Sora's basic level opera singing, but never included an example of anyone from holo singing Enka who is close to Enna's level, and not just trying Enka for memes.
>Your ass keeps pretending that the Holos can't use chest voice
I never mentioned that. Possible you think that I am some other anon. But, if we talk about most discussed holos in this tread - Risu, Moona and Suisei and Irys, then it's obvious that Risu and Irys indeed can't use chest voice, while Moona and Suisei can, but they can't control it as well as Enna.

>> No.20693243

>>20690768
When it's a song she knows and suits her voice, Kronii can sing fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEWQXuQxEIU

I'd say her problem is that she either needs more practice with more songs or just stick to stuff she knows she's good at.

>> No.20693352

>>20693243
Ok, this one is pretty good, I have to admit that.

>> No.20693414

>>20689734
I know this is bait but I have to respond. Hopefully this cures some chronic threadreaders by making them actually listen to the chuubas they post about. This is like a dozen songs. If you can't find a single one you like at least a little bit, you should honestly reconsider this hobby.

Individual originals:

High Tide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stmZAThUl64

Wish of this Songbird:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6-Jjovz-o

Reflect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgEFoI9MhE

ALiCE&u:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGviVpVE1fA

Tsunami:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_TLQsaAgU

Here Comes Hope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8Za0T1T8M

Hinotori:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDfMDkgheQY

Red:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AuQZrUHjhg

Group songs:

Diamond City Lights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnP0cKNPE04

God Sees All:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtFpa3LWA_U

Q:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetXqd9B8WE

Bonus (LOS HOMBRES):
Stuck in the Abyss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySSUTOGO-3M

>> No.20693496

>>20678406
Suseis opinion matters since when?

>> No.20693754

>>20693414
As a Ennafag, I think that Wish of this Songbird is a good intro song, but bad song to listen to and enjoy. I believe that Enna could potentially create an actual banger. It just has to be as catchy as Tsunami or Reflect + include her superb voice flexing.

>> No.20694343
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20694343

>>20693754
Dude, bro, that's like, your opinion man.

Jokes aside Wish of this Songbird speaks to me because it sounds SO MUCH like the vocal tracks in Yuki Kajiura's Fiction albums that I used to listen to a decade ago. Right down to the little bridges in this bizarre fantasy song-language. It sounds like something you'd find in an anime concept album and that's fucking amazing to me.

>> No.20695365

>>20694343
You are right, but I was speaking from the normie (me) standpoint. And majority of vtuber audience are normies. And what do normies like? They like short, simple and catchy songs, not the complex musical pieces that are analyzed and enjoyed by enthusiasts.

>> No.20695513

Sorry, what's an "enna"? I only watch vtubers with over 100 followers

>> No.20695696

>>20687820
No, she isn't that fucking good, you just want her to be and put all your eggs in that basket to justify your shitty tribalism garbage. It doesn't.

>> No.20695727
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20695727

>>20693414
So many absolute bangers.
I love it.

>> No.20696421

>obvious bait thread
>300 posts

>> No.20696465
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20696465

>>20695696
>tribalism
What a dumb fucking cunt you are lmao.
I talk about hololive songs all the time in the NijiEN threads and get shit because of it.
I've got hololive music playing right fucking now as I'm typing this very post.

IRyS is just completely forgettable sounding. There's nothing her singing does that makes me want to come back and listen to her more.
Now compare that to Moona's High Tide and Gura's Reflect, since you want to talk about Hololive singers and their tracks. They shit on everything you or the other anons have posted regarding IRyS.
All of the NijiEN debut group songs shit on everything she has too. As does Finana's original Tsunami.
And t b h just like this anon here >>20693754
I'm not too into Wish of this Songbird despite absolutely loving Enna's vocals. If the song isn't right, no vocal prowess will do it for me. I have plenty of Enna songs I listen to daily still though which are more my style and I too have no doubt she'll release a ludo level original piece that I'll slap on repeat for weeks.

So tell me, faggot, how have I put my eggs all in 1 basket when I like such a broad scope of vtuber music?
>"B-b-but you said your favorite is from the company I don't like you're not allowed to do that!"
Cope about it faggot, I can do that and I will do it. I have no brand loyalty, I watch who is interesting and I listen to whatever songs I like the sound of. It really is that simple.

>> No.20696740

>>20693496
She’s the face of the company once the kizuna ai clone sora retires

>> No.20696739

>>20695365
I feel like that ship has sailed, anon. Enna's other big musical work was the Higurashi concert. It's pretty clear she has a particular set of musical and thematic influences she wants to follow.

And honestly, I think that's perfectly fine. You can get lots of views and sell lots of copies even with niche genre music - case in point Wish of this Songbird is at nearly 500k views and it's not like Enna's promoted it much at all.

>> No.20696765

>>20696465
Risu no limiter > Enna
also i don't have autism like you sorry

>> No.20696966

>>20696465
Holy based

>> No.20696994

>>20696765
Risu is so much of a non factor in the vocal arena that I haven't even thought of her rrat ass after hearing 2-3 of her boring ass songs lmao.
Cope, seethe, dilate.

>> No.20697051

>>20696765
Faggot

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20697121

>>20696465
Based

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20697209

>wonder how this low quality bait thread is still alive hours later
>somehow this bait thread has become of the few threads with unironic discussion about enjoying music

>> No.20697290

>>20696465
Enna's voice is incredibly generic and without soul, meanwhile Irys' voice is unique and rather angelic.

>> No.20697754

>>20697209
Keeping a civil discussion about topic is quite simple. The only thing you have to do is ignoring bating faggots like >>20697290
Or just reply to them with some mockery like "go suck some balls", because their opinion doesn't really matters. But if someone would try to unironically argue with them and provide legit arguments, they will shitpost in return, and thread will turn into a garbage.

>> No.20697829

>>20697290
Go suck some balls

>> No.20697856

>>20690266
I kneel.

>> No.20701759

>>20679112
ur just being pointlessly inflammatory but yes anya's phony cover is better than suichan's by a lot

she's still a good singer but she kind of belts a bit too hard

>> No.20701823

Shut the FUCK up and post more SANGIN' you fucking reprobates.

>> No.20702090

>>20678958
WHA-?

>> No.20702389

>>20686935
Sorry to reply to a 3 hour old post but I feel like her I beg You cover kinda shows why she's not on the same level, absolutely no power.

>> No.20703547

>>20678406
>had to bring a Niji into the discussion just because Gura wasn't recognized by Suisei

As much as I love Risu, Enna's only real competition when it comes to singing is Chima.

>> No.20705006

High Noon is easily in the top 5 of Holo original songs.

>> No.20705102

>>20679660
i like it

>> No.20705395

>>20679660
Enna really makes people seethe.

>> No.20706139

>>20679660
Enna is objectively a better singer than Suisei, Moona, or Risu. If you can't see/hear it, then you need more musical experience. That is a fact. I don't watch or listen to enough Azki or Sora to compare them with Enna. If you want to compare Enna's skill and passion for singing, ask yourself how often do you hear Suisei, Moona, or Risu sing the harmony to accompany a recorded melody of themselves, swap the major/minor keys of a song for a different interpretation of the song, or include ad libs in their songs during a karaoke. This is on top of Enna having better tone and pitch control than them.

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20706586

>>20678406
Who cares? Suzy is overhyped by a lot.
Yes I came to a dying thread to post this.

>> No.20706694

>>20706586
Mind you, Suisei herself said that there are better singers than her trapped in the indie scene. She sometimes lurks around in the their chats

>> No.20707587

The BIRB is BASED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_Vu6w7aRE

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