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>> No.20388226

>thinking it'll be just Ame

oh no no no hahahahahaha, who wants to tell him?

>> No.20388306

It'll be funny.

>> No.20388331

Eh, it's not like it will happen for sure.
Mori and Council though... But that's the usual.

>> No.20388403

I do
t. future Holostars EN

>> No.20388406

>>20388203
Don't worry Ame will friendzone them harder than anyone else in EN (along with Kiara)

>> No.20388434

>>20388203
Why not?

>> No.20388469

>>20388226
learn to read nigga, he doesn't give a fuck about the others.

>> No.20388478

they aren't star they are en3

>> No.20388567

>>20388203
Why? Ame is pro-unity.

>> No.20388571

>>20388203
Ame is probably the least likely HoloEN of all to have any problems with StarsEN. She'll neither be hostile like Kronii nor end up simping over them like Calli, she's a True Neutral here with no particular motives. If anyone does it, she's the natural choice.

>> No.20388605

>>20388203
it's inevitable op and you know that

>> No.20388614

>>20388331
It will happen if one of them is a FPSfag.

>> No.20388664

>>20388571
Kronii doesn't hate men and yes I've done my reps

Will you fuckers quit pushing this shit?

>> No.20388686

>>20388203
Implying I'd collab with any of those EN pigs.
t. future Holostars EN

>> No.20388719

Don't worry she won't. She'll collab with Hololive EN's future male members though

>> No.20388843

I don't want StarsEN to collab with girls. The most I'll tolerate is a christmas/birthday call in or a talk show format like Robel.

>> No.20388970

>>20388843
>Won't even be able to celebrate her birthday with her in peace.
It's over...

>> No.20389004

>>20388970
I meant one of the girls calling in to the Stars' stream, not the other way around.

>> No.20389080

>>20388203
I trust Ame more than literally anyone else in the branch to collab with men, keep it professional, and make it entertaining.

I'm sure a few girls will avoid them entirely but it's even better to be in the same spot as Fubuki where you have full trust

>> No.20389093

I just want them to be friends.

>> No.20389155

>>20388843
>talk show format like Robel.
Hey homos, I've been watching more of the Stars because their Japanese is easier to understand and follow for my reps. How does Roberu make his Bar Robel streams not feel awkward? The man can take vtubers he's never collabed that much with before and just start chatting them up for over an hour. How do I learn this amazing social skill?

>> No.20389181

>>20388571
It’s Gura who’s going to be hostile towards them.

>> No.20389262

All of them will collab with homostars EN. Not only that but jp's who have never collabed with a male will collab with the new jp stars. Do you know what cover is going to gain from doing this? Absolutely nothing. They're just going to piss you off because they can.

>> No.20389263

gura i have sure that will never collab with stars EN

>> No.20389277

>>20389181
>Gura
>Hostile towards them
He doesn't know. Who is going to tell him?

>> No.20389300

Realistically, the only one who won't collab will be Fauna.

>> No.20389366

>>20389181
>>20389263
Have you lads played Euro Truck Simulator?

>> No.20389380

>>20389277
>the only in EN one who follows none of holostars on twitter
>immediately changes the subject when chat tells her that astel likes disney too

>> No.20389415

>Won't Collab With Men
Gura
Sana
Kronii

>Safe to Collab With Men
Amelia
Kiara
Ina
Mumei

>Unsafe to Collab With Men
Baelz
Mori
Fauna

>Yabai hide your sons hide your brothers hide your penis
IRySoHorny

>> No.20389423

>>20388203
Sorry op but she's gonna be doing secret porn with them for the premium 'fans'.

>> No.20389428

>>20388403
Please be a shota

>> No.20389462

I'm not sure why you fags think that with the introduction of EN males literally everyone will be having mixed gender collabs suddenly. The current homostars don't initiate collabs with females 99% of the time, and those who do make sure it's either with "trusted" members e.g FBK or the IDs, and non-holos. Do you really believe that when Stars EN happens suddenly you'll see SUPER BUNNY MAN CHLOE SAKAMOTO ft. SsethTzeentach-kun #StarsEN #HoloX ?

>> No.20389554

You know these women talk to males, right?

>> No.20389564

>>20389277
>>20389366
Subaru, Miko, and most others used to collab with dudes all the time before deciding to go full-on “NO MALES”. Gura is the same.

>> No.20389577

>>20389462
That might be what they intend, but the homobeggars will kick and scream until they force every EN to collab with homos

>> No.20389585

>>20389554
who, I will break their kneecaps.

>> No.20389616

>>20389462
Maybe not for Japs, but the idea is that EN boys will not be part of Stars. They'll be Hololive. Blame Vox and his boys.

>> No.20389656

The idea that watson (my oishi) may have breathed oxygen that a m*le breathed infuriates me beyond all reason.
Yes, I know what you're about to say:
>he doesn't know
I do know and it pisses me off, maybe enough to kill.

>> No.20389671

>>20389616
The audition video was posted on the Stars channel. Putting them in Holostars EN would also produce logistical problems for the big JP/EN crossover events like Mario Kart and Minecraft summer/sports festivals

>> No.20389681

>>20389564
Once a whore, always a whore. They just need a trigger and they will be all over Homochad dick.

>> No.20389737

>>20389585
Uber eats, fast food workers, store clerks, a jannitor, past classmates, brothers/dads, would be suitors

>> No.20389800

>>20389737
that is haram.

>> No.20389814

>>20389155
Robert actually has conversation flowchart mapped in his mind. He explained it on his Monhun collab with his chicken wife

>> No.20389861

>>20389671
*putting them in Hololive EN

>> No.20389909

>>20389415
Why is Fauna in unsafe?

>> No.20389911

>>20389462
The current homostars are whipped since they had an actual ban placed on them right out the gate. Once the ban was lifted the "wall" was already put up and now you have the girls having to lie and say they don't collab because they don't want to offend the Homostar gachi. That same ban will most likely not be placed on the EN stars and they idol culture within the EN branch isn't nearly as strong. EN girls have already collabed with JP stars, you think they won't collab with EN?

>> No.20389918

>>20389380
>He doesn't remember her creaming herself over the holostars on that one animecon panel

>> No.20389973

>>20389462
Male ENs with JP will never ever happen unless it's fubuki, matsuri is horny, or one of them is a top tier musician or something. It's easy as fuck for japanese streamers to get away with this kind of shit because it's the norm for the japanese audience. It'll be a hell of a lot harder for western woman in a western run branch to get away with it, especially when they have higher profile weeb entertainment sites looking at them like crunchy roll. All it takes is one article and some redditors pounding on the door to make them cave. And I'd be okay with it because the gender separation is r9k autistic as fuck shit, but those mother fuckers better watch and support the lads then instead of being the same old homo beggars.

>> No.20389992

>>20389814
Can you summarize? I’m actually interested.

>> No.20390013

>>20389415
Switch Gura and Kiara.

>> No.20390028
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We weren't numerous enough to stop the shipfags and fujos. I dont wish this fate not even to my worse enemy, take care holobros, gatekeep the shit out of your general.

>> No.20390040

>>20389462
>sseth auditioned?
Oh yeah!

>> No.20390064

>>20390028
>we
It's pretty easy for them when Pomu chases around Luca like a dog in heat anon.

>> No.20390099
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>>20389918
>le PR “he’s nice”
>creaming herself

>> No.20390171

>>20389909
I doubt she'd get horny for stars but she probably won't say no to collabs and saplings are much more gachi than hoomans that'd probably get a kick out of Mumei's antics with a boy

>> No.20390175

>>20389973
I don't want the hard segregation because it's beyond retarded to purposefully kneecap your own group's growth like that. Just let them decide if they want to interact like the adults they are.

>> No.20390204

>>20390175
Why would I want men inserted into my cute girl slice of life show?

>> No.20390214

>>20390028
Agree, fujos and shipfags are utterly cancer. Female audience was a mistake.

>> No.20390282

>>20390204
Cover changed the genre anon.

>> No.20390289

>>20388203
its fucked

>> No.20390311

>>20390204
>>/mlp/

>> No.20390346

>>20389911
>EN girls have already collabed with JP stars
Aside from that council drawing game and Baelz Apex with her husbando I don't recall other examples. You have a point about ENs possibly not having the same restrictions the JP Stars would have and >>20389973 with reddit and twitter retards that might get uppity but I sincerely believe that if your oshi is someone who caves in to that crowd despite being uncomfortable or hesitant about it then they're a weakling and they don't deserve your support. I highly doubt however that there's suddenly going to be pressure from the management to collab with males.

>> No.20390354

>>20388203
(You) don't know anything about Ame if you think she isn't pro Holostar, fake Teamate doesn't even follow her on Twitter

>> No.20390356

>>20390099
Cumkek keep claiming how she can't fake her emotion but when it doesn't fit your unicorn narrative
>le PR “he’s nice”
>creaming herself
Keep coping my cumkek.

>> No.20390378

>>20390311
>>>/y/

>> No.20390486

>>20389911
Homos don't have unicorn fans anon, they all have collabed with women (even Shogun) and the ones with possessive fans have told them to fuck off live on stream. They aren't women, they don't care about the feelings of internet strangers that much.

>> No.20390530

>>20390486
Why do EN chuubas have such an attitude problem? JPs don't act that entitled.

>> No.20390536

>>20390378
Yaoi is boy+boy. Idk how what does it have to do with males collabing females.

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>>20388567

>> No.20390571

>>20390486
I know, that's why the girls still using those "fans" as an excuse is funny.

>> No.20390615

>>20390530
Because they're ENs. Generously, they're just acting appropriately in an individualist culture and the public voice will allow this even if the people clamoring for them to collab with men aren't paying any money.

>> No.20390618

If the purpose of stars en is to find a vox killer then wouldn't it make sense to find the most flaming homosexuals that can be comfortable acting like a bishounen to viewers and tease yaoi shit?

>> No.20390639

>>20390099
I agree she wasn't creaming herself but she specifically pointed out his voice, implying she's aware of his content.

>> No.20390666

>>20390346
I doubt that management will push anything, however be ready for /vt/ to accuse every girl of being pressured into doing a collab regardless of if she enjoyed it or not.

>> No.20390690

>>20388203
It's too late. They're going to chase after that Luxiem limelight, and HoloEN are going to attempt to emulate that same feeling with the girls.

>> No.20390726

>>20390618
Vox's audience is predominantly Chinese, a region hololive doesn't make money off of. His collab today pulled far worse numbers than usual outside of his hours and at many parts of it weren't any better than the lower tiers in his company. He's also already there, so even if they found a strictly better talent they won't steal his numbers.

I don't think holostars will compete with Nijisanji boys no matter how good the talents they find are, if they can even find them, but if they do it'll be because they manage to create some new audience. Like some surprisingly large chunk of hololive fans that didn't even know they wanted platonic bro vtubers, some unheard of hetero shipping fanfiction writers, or a bunch of desperate house wives who want an impossible fake perfect husbando that isn't a sex pest.

>> No.20390730

I have the perfect solution:

Hire only 40+ year old ojisan preferably married and with kids. They have a lot of life experience for zatsudan, good taste in video games being exposed to the golden age of gaming at their prime, and because they have kids they have low test so they would not be able to lust after the female members.

>> No.20390808

>>20390486
That's what anon means.
>now you have the girls having to lie

Both Subaru and Sora claimed collabing might upset the boys' female fans, which is nonsense. Instead of just being transparent they push the issue of separation on the boys.

>> No.20390836

>>20390730
So it's all just Rikka EN?

>> No.20390863

>>20390639
You could listen to him for the first time and still notice that he has a good voice.

>> No.20390880

>>20388203
you don't get a choice, i'll collab with her and gosling ON STREAM!

>> No.20390882

>>20390726
>some unheard of hetero shipping fanfiction writers
AKA the death of holoen

>> No.20390926

>>20390536
I also don't see what a show about cartoon horses has to do with wanting to watch cute anime girls interact with each other.

>> No.20390986

>>20388203
How did it make you feel when Ame was excitedly livetweeting Shien's 3D debut?

>> No.20391007

>>20388203
Imagine being a unity chuuba and doesn't collab with them kek

>> No.20391032

>>20388203
All good things come to an end, anon. Use the precious months you have left to enjoy your oshi to the fullest.

>> No.20391049 [DELETED] 

>>20389415
Fauna should be safe, she already gets dicked down by her BF

>> No.20391071

>>20390986
someone post the yosh~ comic

>> No.20391074

>>20391049
Yeah, me

>> No.20391105

Hololive EN dynamic of the girl only club and anime girl doing cute thing's with eachother will forever be changed when the En stars debut, it cannot be avoided.
I see many people coping saying thing's like holostar jp dont mingle with Hololive but the west as a different culture with these thing's altogether.
First they'll probably get bad press if they dont interact with them , be it on twitter reddit or YouTube comment section collabs beggars will be on a all time high.
Second we already have girls who want to or have no problem with interacting directly with them and the management will surely want to have them interact with each other to boost the Stars Numbers.
All in all it's doomed,
If the EnStars are a success HololiveEN not interacting with them would be seen as strange and if they are unsuccessful HoloEN would be blamed about their lack of success if they dont interact.

>> No.20391177

>>20391074
I made this post

>> No.20391185

I think they'll collab and most anons will end up liking at least one.

>> No.20391195

>>20391177
fuck off, it was me ye cunt

>> No.20391228

>>20391185
I'll probably like some as long as they don't openly lust for cock during the collab like Reimu or Pomu.

>> No.20391401

I'm making backup preparations to switch oshis from Ame to Koyori. Won't really pull the trigger until the dreaded collab happens, if it happens

>> No.20391490

>>20391185
I really dont think so, if you want the bro experience or something normal streamer have provided that for a decade atleast.
I just really dont see the point The stars EN if they dont pander to woman and most straight man wouldnt want to watch a stream full of female pandering.
Unless they get some monster of a talent who's just this good.

>> No.20391586
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20391586

Do you wish to be idols? Then be complete idols.

I will be starting a special military operation in Cover Corp HQ.

>> No.20391675

>>20391185
Fubuki and Oga are a fantastic duo that never rubs any friends the wrong way. If things line up right Holostars can realistically add to the company and improve the appeal of the girls since you'll get content out of them that's just never going to happen with strictly female groups.
We should probably accept that holostars and collabs are happening but the real concern probably isn't even the boys because weeb guys are going to be scared as fuck of ruining this opportunity. It's the girls. Fubuki is a consummate professional but even if none of the EN girls start husband hunting they can't really carry their current level of friendly flirting between each other over to the guys.

>> No.20391766

>>20391401
I don't understand this, this is a retarded mentality. If you would do that you should just make the switch now, you've got nothing to lose

>> No.20391817

>>20389577
>the homobeggars
Don't you blame this shit on us, we want no fuckin part of it. Blame this shit on the anti-idol twitter activist cunts.

>> No.20391838

>>20391675
This. The Holostars are never the ones causing the yabs you idiots, if yabs happen it's always the girls fault. I won't be suprised if the EN boys are better behaved than a lot of the EN girls.

>> No.20391862

>>20391817
Regular holostars fans are fine, the problem is the beggars (who, as their name suggests, want collabs but don't actually care about the stars themselves)

>> No.20391882

Yes you niggers can fuck off and find a new oshi, i will be the last teammate and no one can stop me

>> No.20391910

>>20391838
Have you seen the NijiEN males? They're massive shitters

>> No.20391967

>>20391766
Holding out for the hope that they decide against it (lack of quality applicants)

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>>20391862
They don't even watch them to begin with. I swear to god if they fuck up the comfy "guys being guys without women involved" feeling the stars have I will go fucking ballistic.

>> No.20391981

>>20391910
To be fair NijiEN hiring has been way more volatile than HoloEN hiring. Half of the branch has some kind of oopsie in their history including the girls.

>> No.20391998

>>20391910
the NijiEN girls are complete shitters too, but hololive has actual standards.

>> No.20392006

>>20391838
Holostars JP is Yagoo's personal boy idol pet project. Almost all of the members are idolfags (or failed idols) who know exactly where the boundaries lie in the industry they're in.

Do you really think they'll apply that level of scrutiny to Stars EN auditions?

>> No.20392015

>>20391910
>NijiENmales
Those aren't Holostars retard. Also if the only males (You) know anything about are NijiENmales (since you jumped the gun to talk about them before anything) you probably aren't qualified for this conversation

>> No.20392077

>>20392006
Yes, I do. Since I don't believe the stupid rrat that they will me under the same management as the girls (JP or EN) they might actually be managed by someone competent

>> No.20392094

>>20391979
>Shien and I have matching tie lenghts

This was actually cute.
I ship them !

>> No.20392119

>>20391490
What if I want the bro experience AND I still like anime and vtubers? It's not like I have to pick one or the other. If I wanted to only watch good streamers let's be honest I probably wouldn't be watching vtubers at all, or if I solely wanted CGDCT there's plenty of anime I can watch and I can skip the lame game choices and drama. Yet I want most of this stuff wrapped up into one package.

>> No.20392175

>>20391862
Beggars aren't even Holostars fans, those fucks cry about how underrated the homos are when they can't even name all of them and don't watch streams. Even on normalfag platforms like reddit homofags don't like those people.

>> No.20392211

>>20392006
>Charismatic/charming guys
>AND they have to give a shit about idol culture
Yeah I think at best they'll get one for the EN branch. I'm starting to fear that they'll get some boring guys.

>> No.20392226

>>20388203
Get used to the idea or quit following chuubas. There's no escape for unicorns.

>> No.20392258

>>20392119
>if I solely wanted CGDCT there's plenty of anime
This is the other side of the coin for "if you like males just watch normal streamers". I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

>> No.20392279

>>20389415
To be fair, Sana has to steam to collab.

>> No.20392295

>>20392226
>There's no escape
Come home to Kawaii productions.

>> No.20392298

>>20392211
>I'm starting to fear that they'll get some boring guys.
Honestly the most realistic scenario. They pick dudes who're 100% safe to put around the girls, that have some clear tangible talents like singing and drawing, and none of them are strong enough uniquely to carry themselves as streamers.

I'd argue that all of the NijiEN boys who aren't a ticking timebomb are like this right now.

>> No.20392321

>>20388203
>Holostars EN
I think you mean the newest male generation of Hololive English

>> No.20392360

>>20392077
>>20392298
the combination of
>speaks english
>respects idol culture
>good streamer
is almost nonexistent in a single male. At best you'll have the first two conditions met, at worst you'll get a bunch of ESL indogs or ""canadians"" who will stream as sporadically as Sana with the same boring energy as Kronii.

>> No.20392370

>>20392295
I like male chuubas and actually support this choice. At least there isn't some male branch of Kawaii Pro that gets shit on.

>> No.20392379

you're a retard if you think they're going to discard their current model entirely just for the sake of chasing vox's fujo money when they're still going to be locked out of half of his audience because it's all chinks.
also, the japanese aren't completely blind to anything outside of JP. they care about EN and ID to a limited extent.

>> No.20392386

>>20392321
I hope so. Itll be funny seeing Hololive bury Nijisanji EN since there will be no reason to watch them at that point.

>> No.20392389

ugh homeEN will fucking suck because all of them will have to be on their best behavior, when i watch men i want a cynical jaded dude that doesnt care anymore or xqc pre GTARP/amogus

>> No.20392404

we about to get cucked bois are ya ready

>> No.20392420

>>20391979
Why was this the only time she showed such an excited interest in a homo? It's like she went back to beating around the bush after.

>> No.20392439

>>20392386
I don't want Hololive to abandon its identity in pursuit of numbers. Let Luxiem soak up the fujo audience.

>> No.20392441

>>20392420
she got yoshzoned by the cool jackel

>> No.20392443

>>20392360
Anon they may not even do Holostars EN if they don't get good enough candidates.

>> No.20392457

>>20392379
What model? They already allow them to collab with guys.

>> No.20392472

>>20392439
I know its just funny fucking with an obvious nijinigger

>> No.20392486

>>20392389
Watch indies retard, xqc would be boring and safe too if he was part of a company

>> No.20392538

>>20390926
Cute horse girls interacting with each other. It is CGDCT moeshit but with horses.

>> No.20392555

>>20392443
They wouldn't have reminded people about the audition if they weren't determined to make at least one generation. It would've been easier to just let people forget about it.

>> No.20392564

>>20392439
HomoEN won't go for the Chinese fujo audience

>> No.20392629

>>20390175
Why would not being part of the same group as the girls and doing their own thing 99% of the time necessarily kneecap them?
A large part of the current Hololive fanbase like the current dynamic with just females and have no interest in male vtubers.
Also, the Niji guys have a completely different set of fans from the Niji girls.
They would have done just as well even if they weren't part of the same group so why wouldn't that be the same for StarsEN.

>> No.20392631

>>20392555
Determined to try again, that doesn't mean it will bear fruit. They did this because they didn't get enough good candidates the first time and it's equally possible that could happen again, hell some of the people applying now might be worse than the ones applying before.

>> No.20392641

>>20390618
Fujos watch that, fujos who watch vtubers are a niche within a niche. If you want a vox killer you want someone who can regularly appeal to a wider audience them him, which is funnily enough pretty easy to do.

>> No.20392644

>>20392457
The retarded nijinigger cope that it's just going to be EN instead of stars

>> No.20392686

>>20392555
If I were Yagoo and was determined to make Stars EN I'd start scouting the jpop/kpop idol agencies for failures and see if any of them can speak some English.

>> No.20392703

>>20392631
Count me among the masses of shitty apps.
I do hope they go for quality and not just grabbing anything, but who knows.

>> No.20392755

>>20392629
Yeah I never understood this cope that Holostars would be way higher if they collabed with the girls more. Anytime one those collabs do actually happen the guys never see an incline. And its not like Luxiem had to leech off of the Niji girls - they were already breaking records at debut.

>> No.20392783

>>20392631
If the number of applicants went up then the chances are finding at least 3 passable guys are there.

>> No.20392807

>>20390175
The Holostars didn't have kneecapped growth because of being separate from the girls, they had kneecapped growth because Cover fucked them up for two whole years.

>> No.20392837

>>20392807
Holy based, fingers crossed they can do that again.

>> No.20392892

It's like watching the stages of grief in real time.

>> No.20392908

>>20392837
Nope, looks like the company headed in the exact opposite direction, and it makes sense to do that. Males are growing and Holos are sinking, this is a decent market for Cover to get a slice of right now.

>> No.20393033

I'm honestly not too worried. Whether she or the other girls collab or not, whatever goes on behind the scenes or doesn't, I do at least trust them to keep going as they have been. I would like to trust, anyway, but then I look at what happened to nijiEN and some of vshojo and I can't help but wonder if we're about to get suckerpunched.

>> No.20393062

>>20392908
>males are growing
Not holo males. They were gimped with this stupid fucking "idol" debuff. Holostars EN was a mistake, and not because of some unicornfaggotry, but simply because there is no market for male idols. Cover should've just made a totally different corporation that's just branded as a general vtuber agency and kept Hololive as its idol agency. Think about it, a world where Matsuri, Ayame, Ollie, or Mori would've been no different from Gibara or Mito. Stars that were seen in the same light as Kuzuha or Kanae. And only the chuubas who are willing to and want to be virtual idols are in Hololive.

>> No.20393072

>>20388203
I don't want her to either.

>> No.20393111

>>20388203
she's super awkward with the other girls, maybe she'll have a better time with the boys

>> No.20393124

>>20393033
The good days are coming to an end. Hopefully some of the small corpos can incline from this.

>> No.20393192

>>20388203
Only you can save her anon, drop her $500 in a membership stream explaining the dangers of collabing with males

>> No.20393257

>>20389181
Gura is just going to pretend they don't exist

>> No.20393307

>>20392386
>attacking someone on their home turf is a great idea!
>giving up your unique appeal to copy someone else couldn't possible backfire!
Just tell me you don't know how to stream, anon.

>> No.20393314

>>20393111
Honestly I agree, Ame always struck me as the kind of girl who probably blends in better and has more fun banter with men. Women are cute but, dare I say it, kinda boring on average, and sometimes women who aren't boring are nerfed by being around only other women.

>> No.20393387

>>20393111
Ame is just a solo streamer by nature.

>> No.20393422

>>20393192
Anon she makes more than that in ten minutes, none of you are actually rich enough to buy her off and if she is thinks it's stupid she'll pull a Botan and refund it anyways

>> No.20393452

>>20388203
She won't in the first month

>> No.20393490

>>20393422
The question is whetther or not she can keep making that in ten minutes. I'm not convinced holostars are a bad idea but they're risky no matter how you slice it. Viewership might not drop at all but losing just a couple gachis can seriously hurt earnings if one of them is dropping an aka every stream.

>> No.20393518

>>20392755
I honesty think it would do more harm than good if they interacted regularly.
The way that Hololive currently runs things is obviously popular considering their female groups dominate in every market.
If people wanted to watch guys and girls interact freely they could easily go watch Niji.
It seems to me though that female vtubers are more popular when they don't regularly have guys around.

>> No.20393553

>>20393518
Yeah and Luxiem would probably be doing better if they stopped interacting with the girls honestly. Just go for the full host club vibe.

>> No.20393565

>>20393518
But what if I don't like Nijisanji's style? I think seiso males in Hololive would be cool.

>> No.20393611

>>20393387
yeah, she's smart, witty, and even aggressive in a good way. Today Calli was super annoying around her even calling her a bully because she didn't want to share the camera and Ame didn't defend herself

>> No.20393613

>>20393422
That's why I said membership stream. Have a long term investigator badge attached to your name while you drop the $500s, bigger chances she'd listen

>> No.20393635

>>20393490
I don't think you understand how much money every member of HoloMyth has at this point. HoloMyth, yes even Kiara, have plenty of "fuck you" money. Losing one unicorn gachi would barely register in the long run.

>> No.20393680

>>20388203
Let's not kid ourselves. As soon as the Homostars want to do 3D shit, Watson will have an intense work relationship with all of them because she's the only person who knows that shit because Cover only hires technologically illiterate autists that need to get everything spoonfed to them.

>> No.20393697

Holobronies forgot that cover against relationship between their employees. Although the times when one of them graduated, then u can question it

>> No.20393704

>>20393490
>>20393613
Imagine thinking that most of their money actually comes from memberships and superchats when Susan takes a huge bite out of that shit every time

>> No.20393769

I want a private VR session with Ame to investigate human anatomy

>> No.20393796

>>20393704
It doesn't, that's not the point. But apparently she listens sometimes when it's an elder gator saying something?

>> No.20393826

>>20388203
She's going to get impregnated by the black homostars and you're going to like it

>> No.20393862

>>20393553
I don't know how true it is but I've seen some posts claim that some of Luxiem's fans are actually annoyed by the girls.
You're probably right regardless though, going full host club would make their viewers happy.
>>20393565
Why do you necessarily want them in Hololive though instead of their own group.
Niji could also get some seiso guys in the future since it's up to the streamer how they want to act.

>> No.20393952

Even if they don't collab, I'm sure they'll be all chummy with one another in the Discord server.

>> No.20394011

>>20392119
My point was more about the fact that we have nothing else like hololive on the streaming market.
We have plenty of group of boys or mixed sex group shooting the shit together its the norm but unless you count Vshojo who are also Vtuber we just dont have a CGDCT or female only group in the streaming market.
The StarsEn would be a group of boys doing fun stuff together as usual + an anime Avatar and I presume and hope more than a half of them will atleast be weebs.

That's why Im fairly sure that unless you're trying to pander to woman HolostarsEN would not be that big of a success.
Anime and Vtubing are 2 different beast imo or I woud have told you to watch danshi koukousei or Cromartie.
I can kind of see your point of views tho about wanting all of that in the same package and maybe way there is way more people hyped about this idea than I thought, only the future will tell.

>> No.20394108

>>20393611
Would it be possible to get an aproximative time stamp?

>> No.20394125

>>20388203
literally the only EN that cares about her fans enough not to, screencap this

>> No.20394138

>>20393796
If Ame's fans are anything like Kiara's than they would probably be outnumbered dramatically, or there could be more members and superchats being supportive than negative

>> No.20394177

>>20394125
That's Gura retard

>> No.20394227

>>20394177
Gura literally doesn't care about anyone besides herself, and will probably graduate right after holoFES because being an idol is just a bucket list item for her.

>> No.20394269

>>20394138
It'd make it more difficult if they were a stars fan, the stars don't want the guys to over collab with the girls either. They seem to want about the exact same frequency of collabs as the stars currently do with jp. Even the shitty virtue signalers would have difficulty spinning that one.

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>>20394011
This. .if holo approaching the same way with niji, or other agency. Then it's just another vtuber shit. . No uniquenes on it. . Holo being idol have their ups and downside. One thing for sure is, if you think the way holo do business is not ur liking, then it's not your market. You're free to watch other vtuber. As long as u don't shit on others preference. Ppl join hololive because the idol thing/ want to improve mostly their singing and holo have audience for it. That's what matters

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>>20388226
Why are ESLs so cringe and retarded?

>> No.20394731

>>20394011
It's always funny to see anons still say Hololive is the only female only streaming group. Takes me back to 2018.

>> No.20394803

i just don't want anymore shipfags, they've already ruined AmeSame

>> No.20394978

>>20394298
Thanks ESLchama

>> No.20395026

>>20388203
just drop hololive like I did. unforgivable

>> No.20395140

>>20391074
Go back to watching Trump news, twink

>> No.20395208

>>20394227
She sounds like a bitch. Rape correction needed.

>> No.20395287

>>20390214
Shipfag were in the fannase way before girls entered it anon.

>> No.20395698

>>20390808
Honestly, I was pretty dissapointed when Sora of all people pulled that shit without hesitation.

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>>20388203
I might unironically stop watching hololive when stars en comes out.

>> No.20395774

Males aren't going to fuck your oshi. Let them do what ever the fuck they want

>> No.20396014

>>20393062
Now that you mention it, I wonder how much the idol label "debuffs" the Stars.
>>20392908
>Males are growing
Nijimales and indies Holomales are if anything, reclining a bit and barely seeing some growth.

>> No.20396085

>>20393518
Pretty much, maybe (and that's a big maybe) it could have sort of worked before, but now? Way too late, those bridges have long since been incinerated.

>> No.20396168

>>20388478
>they aren't star they are en3
You think HololiveEN is going to integrate males? You don't even watch Hololive.
What happens when they want to play Minecraft? You honestly believe that the JP side is going to allow males onto their server? You're retarded.

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God I can't wait for the cope.

Half of /vt/ will turn gay as a way to cope by shipping the holostars with each other.

>> No.20396298

>>20389564
>all the time
>most others
You saw the eight or so examples from sponsored collabs and events and came to the conclusion it was "all the time"?
Also, "most others" is so untrue that it's obvious you don't actually watch Hololive.

>> No.20396866

>>20396298
The anon I replied to was talking about Gura's roommate. All of them collabed with males in the roommate days.

>> No.20397081

>>20388719
>>20389616
>>20392321
You're delusional. And you don't watch Hololive.

>>20389671
>>20396168

>> No.20397107

>>20393490
Can't speak for Gachis for Irys and council but most of myths are english speaking/westerners.

I have been seen a lot of their usual chat members and SCer and they all seem okay if not eager to watch them collab not only with holostars, but nijis and indies. There's a lot of collab beggers but a majority are just "I want to support my oshi" types.

None of them have Rushia tier whales who have 20k over the course of a year, and even thoughs gachis wanted her back more than anything else when the Discord thing happened.

>> No.20397267

>>20389415
>Safe to Collab With Men
>Kiara

Anon, I...

>> No.20397519 [DELETED] 

He’s in

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He’s in

>> No.20397617

>>20389462
This is the same shit we were afraid of back when Myth was debuting.
The fear of EN "whores" ruining our hobby by bringing their shitty attitudes with them.
Myth has some of this type but they've mostly been controlled by mgmt so far, and overall their success reflects that attitude.
EN males under holopro opens up yet another pandora's box, and yet another push away from what made the hobby fun for the majority of the audience, but again it will be up to Cover to navigate these dogshit waters.

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>>20397267
She already has. Kiara has already said and has shown interest in doing professional type collabs with males like Holotalk and sponsored content.

Kiara for the most part won't do anything she doesn't have an interest in unless it's sponsored like the bleach mobile game or the shadowverse thing with Mori. Kiara isn't a unicorn but she understands people who want female-centric content and she herself likes most of the idol aspects of HL. If there were to be a male collab, she'd probably be the most professional and probably reign in the collab.

>> No.20397645

>becomes cuckposting thread

>> No.20397738

>>20397559
qrd on this guy, is he any good? what are his strengths?

>> No.20397780

>>20397738
One of the biggest male indie vtubers out there but there is an issue... Pinoy

>> No.20397856

>>20397780
yup i checked him out and eugh. he's a flip. i hope it's wave 6 and not stars.

zoomer humor, general flip cringeness.

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>>20397738
Clickbait and astro turfing mostly. Kind of expecting that to be a fake graduation to ride the auditions hype honestly. He has a history of baiting views with fake collabs.

>> No.20398026

>>20397856
Sadly he would be a top candidate cause Cover still looks at numbers for auditions so some good males would go out for this sooner clickbait pinoy

>> No.20398112

>>20388203
I'm just gonna stop watching hololive once starsEN becomes a thing. Having them gush over random males isn't what I signed up for. At least with starsJP they act professional enough to warrant a pass but I doubt it's EN counterpart will be the same, especially when they're trying to mimic Luxiem which is a fucking tumor.

>> No.20398159

>>20397780
Strongest race. Millie is the best NijiEN after all.

>> No.20398176

We really need flags and IDs in this board. Because I am sensing shameless samefagging ITT.

>> No.20398213

>>20397856
>>20398026
I'm leaning towards wave 6 because he has a history with some of the current NijiEN

https://youtu.be/eVXJei_sufA

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>>20388203
she wont

>> No.20398470

>>20388203
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.20398519

>>20388664
>doesn't hate me
that is true but she will be defensive unless it includes a friend from a previous work she trusts or someone that reminds her of a friend

>> No.20398593

>>20391195
i made you write this post

>> No.20398927

>>20392686
with how the music industry is i wouldn't be surprised if they do go that route

>> No.20399136

>>20388843
So let's see
>Ban with JP because they are girls
>Ban with HoloEn because they are girls too
>Can't collab with stars JP unless they learn japanese
>Can't collab with ID too because they are girls too
Idk anon, but if you wanted to separate them... idk, put them in a sealed chamber or something right?

>> No.20399180

>>20390356
nta, but you're the delusional one here

>> No.20399216

>>20388203
Ame's already friends with dakooters anon

>> No.20399289

>>20399216
I would suck dakooters off

>> No.20399515

>Watching western whores
you got what was coming to you

>> No.20399524

She will collab with them and they will insert thier unwashed dicks unto her butt and you will watch it happen

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kiarer...

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>>20398112
But they are always gushing over ransom males.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS9bCjxMTv8

>> No.20400431

>>20399740
Those are exquisite and objectively correct pairings.

>> No.20400504

Anon, the applicants are joining purely to get closer to Ame.
t. I'm one of them

>> No.20400894

>>20400504
>tfw told I'm a a funny and decent streamer
>love and respect idol culture and hololive
>won't even bother applying because my voice will never match up with whatever fujobait model Cover wants to shill out.

My voice is slightly deep and low but I sound like I'm constantly tired or sick.

>> No.20400906

>>20400894
post vocaroo

>> No.20401221

>>20400906
No, it's like 6am and I don't want to wake up my roomates. But I wish all the anons good luck who are applying.

>> No.20401256

>>20400894
Hey, it could be worse. My voice sounds like someone dragging a chunk of metal across concrete

>> No.20401499

>>20398213
Alright, despite people doomposting about him, he's talented and can impersonate several anime characters. This guy is okay on my list.

>> No.20401720

As long as HomoEN doesn't even give a glance at my JP holos then they're fine.

>> No.20401721

>>20388203
StarsEN will unironically be the end of the EN branch. The people who only started watching for cute girls will quickly move on when a bunch of men start polluting every collab, and all the homobeggars who never watch the Stars will realize they don't actually care about male vtubers. NijiEN has already won the war

>> No.20401727

>>20400894
>can manage a Steve Blum type voice when feeling well
>Allergic to literally everything
>90% of the time I'm hoarse because I'm having an allergic reaction to dust, pollen, pet dandruff, etc
Shit sucks

>> No.20403188

>>20396168
>You think HololiveEN is going to integrate males?
So why is it named EN3 rather than StarsEN?

>> No.20403588

>>20401727
Just take your meds bro.

>> No.20404769

>>20388203
Counter argument: I do want Ame to collab with Gura (more often)

>> No.20404929

she seems like she’d be better friends with dudes than other girls but what do I know. So what even are the odds EN3 will be dudes anyway?

>> No.20404998

>>20404929
Very low, considering they're auditioning a holostars EN. It's unlikely they'd turn around and call that HoloEN gen 3

>> No.20407346

>>20388203
If anything Mori will probably the only to collab with them, maybe Kiara with holotalks. The rest would just pretend they don’t exist

>> No.20407499

>>20404769
I don't.
Their chemistry is dead. Can't go back now.

>> No.20408389

>>20407499
>collab chemistry with ame is dead
>collab chemistry with ina is dead
>still not that close with kiara
>mori is annoying as usual
Gura really did kind of kill all her myth collab chemistry, didn't she?

>> No.20408462

I can already hear Ame telling us about the fun she had with DAVE in the offcolab they had
>I was getting a drink and when I came back DAVE was doing this funny thing you should have seen it
>My computer was having trouble and DAVE fixed it
>DAVE gave me this cute terrarium
>Next week is the Fight Club watchalong with Mori and DAVE
>DAVE calling in on supasunday
>Membership posts mentioning DAVE
>DAVE in the comments
>DAVE in my oishi
THE ALOEFAGS WERE RIGHT FUCK COVER and FUCK DAVE

>> No.20408682

>>20408389
It's fine, I'm sure Council will continue to be good for her. By the time she kills the collab chemsitry with them, Gen 3 will be out. A whole squad of dudes to hang out with.

>> No.20408813

>>20403188
Because it's not named EN3, retard. You thought that up in your head one time and now you think it's real because you're a schizo.

>> No.20408865

>>20400240
gushing about a movie star that they'll never meet is a bit different than gushing about some e-celeb faggot or a male friend. But, I think you know that already and you just wanted to be a disingenuous cunt.

>> No.20409198

>>20400240
>>20408865
When Korone talked about her favorite male comedian and chat started to post pikipiki piiman, it was a joke and she played into it. No one is actually jealous when a woman likes a male celebrity or talks about the bands or actors she likes. It's when a woman is spending time with you and she won't stop talking about how great or much she loves one of her male friends, is what fans don't want. If you don't understand why that is, then you're a typical woman with zero empathy for others, especially men. You're unable to think about the feelings of other people or anyone other than yourself and your own desires.

>> No.20410673

>>20398112
I'll just stop too. It's going to make everything completely different, I'll probably stick to small companies or some 2view

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>>20398112
>especially when they're trying to mimic Luxiem which is a fucking tumor.
Boo.

>> No.20411397

>>20388403
please be a tranny

>> No.20411601

>>20400240
laplus is a whore too, she was fawning over that twink fuck boy from spiderman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0a8cFX6LT4

>> No.20411794

>>20388203
She already collabs with her boyfriend in her bed every night.

>> No.20412215

>>20389564
Doesn't Subaru still collab with nijisanji from time to time? like the baseball streams there were males here. And as far as I know, suba-tomo don't give a fuck when maimoto collabs with her or her mama.

>> No.20412505

>>20393518
Exactly this, is like watching a tennis match and in the middle of the game it stops being tennis and it becomes a basketball match. I don't know why would they change the formula that has been working until now for something that they don't even know if it'll work.

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>>20404998
They have every opportunity to call it Holostars English but they're not. This is on the Holostars website btw. There's not even the excuse that "they're auditioning for Hololive Production" it literally says Hololive English.

>> No.20413975

>>20411794
Yeah, me

>> No.20414099

>>20413540
Because they haven't actually created an agency for them yet and because they're being screened by the same people who screen HoloEN applicants. There's good odds that it'll have its own name, actually. We also have information suggesting that HoloEN is already assembling a Gen 3 that--guess what--is all women.

There's also, again the open question of how they would handle Hololive-wide all-girls events like Mario Kart, summer festival, and sports festival. They're not going to force the JPs to collab with EN males and you know it.

>> No.20414469

>>20412215
Her last collab was in 2020

>> No.20414488

>>20389909
yeah, she already has a boyfriend so what's the problem

>> No.20414722

>>20392360
>the combination of
>>speaks english
>>respects idol culture
>>good streamer
>is almost nonexistent in a single male.
Don't forget the biggest one:
>Actually wants to be in Hololive

>> No.20415088

>>20414722
does /vt/ not realize that any male who wants to join a corpo is going to prefer nijisanji? niji caters to them far more, you know what the rules are, and you know that you'll get a mostly friendly audience

high likelihood of EN Stars just being niji rejects, just like NijiEN girls are holo rejects

>> No.20415141

>>20388403
please be in London

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>>20390028
>>20390214
shipfags and fujos keep their shit behind locked accounts so you're just being mad for no reason

also the chuubas are not your girlfriends and it's peak entertainment when boys and girls collab with each other. Any contrary opinion is objectively wrong.

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>>20415245
then why are all-girl slice of life anime better than mixed-gender slice of life anime?

>> No.20415720

I'm tired of Ame posponing streams

>> No.20415800

>>20389080
>be in the same spot as Fubuki where you have full trust
Anon we trust Oga to be tapping that arctic cat pussy on the regular

>> No.20415942

>>20415463
even if that were somehow true, using SOL anime to compare interactions between real men and women is a sign of too much anime.

>> No.20415979

>>20388203
can't wait for the ame hours to end

>> No.20416002

>>20415942
mixed-gender collabs don't offer me the voyeuristic psychosexual appeal that all-girl collabs do, it's like eavesdropping on a slumber party

>> No.20416024

Gura is such a bitch to Ame.
She deserves a good male friend

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>>20416002
also, hidamari sketch is the greatest anime of all time

>> No.20416073

>>20416002
Different strokes for different folks I guess. A bit more literal in your case.

>> No.20416157

>>20391862
The beggars are all Twitchfags, seriously StarsEN should be Twitch-only

>> No.20416203

>>20416024
Don't worry anon, I will host an offline meet up where they'll resolve any tensions and get along.

And then we'll play Kirby Air Ride on stream on stream.

>> No.20416280

>>20391105
I'm with you. I think this will 100% ruin the dynamic. It is going to turn HoloEN into NijiEN.

>> No.20417050

>>20414722
>Actually wants to be in Hololive
Holostars you mean, many men would jump at the chance of being in Hololive beside their oshi, but many wouldn't really care about being part of Stars.

>> No.20417079

>>20388203
Don't worry bro, I don't want to collab with them either.

>> No.20417233

>>20415088
Most, male applicants with half a brain would definitely prefer Nijisanji over Holostars every day of the day, even if they want to go the idol route, Nijisanji offers a way, way better enviroament for males than anything Holopro could offer.

>> No.20418269

>>20397619
>Kiara is in control

>> No.20418573

>>20388203
My bet is that most of their collabs will be in groups of 4 or more (except for some of them like Mori and Kiara), to reduce the 1 on 1 male and female (like the Fubuki with Oga).

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>>20418573
>Mori and Kiara will never collab with me and bully me like they did with Omocat

Ngmi...

>> No.20419364
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>>20415463
>moeshit brony garbage
>better than anything

>> No.20420675

>>20388203
Don't worry, Ame boyfriend won't let that happen

>> No.20420761

>>20390730
a 40+ ojisan with family going chuuba is clearly unhappy with this current situation
so those are highly prone to start flirting and ask for nudes

>> No.20420796

>>20419364
>shonenfag
the state of this board

>> No.20421850

>>20401499
>Can do Levi voice
dude literally can become the next Vox and milk every single penny from the OLs

>> No.20422444

>>20415463
But Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou is unironically kino and it's both boys and girls like Nijisanji

>> No.20422656

>>20421850
Vox works because he has access to the China market. When he isn't streaming during their hours and isn't pandering to them his numbers drop off like fucking crazy. A lot of the western and Japanese viewers find him creepy as fuck.

>> No.20423082

>>20419364
>Demon Slayer
hang yourself

>> No.20424447

>>20388203
Go assassinate omegatranny and T-chan then.

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>> No.20429453

>>20397559
There’s no way they put this guy in Holostars. The next Niji EN most likely. If they do put him in Holo then I’ll lose faith in whoever scouts these talents (probably the same people who scouted gen 2)

>> No.20429849

>>20390730
>Hire only 40+ year old ojisan preferably married and with kids.
You idiot, those are the most dangerous men of all, once they start getting a taste of how it feels to be desired by young women once more, they'll lose their limiters and turn into those guys with three families.

>> No.20430322

I would never collab with a woman

>> No.20430701

>>20390028
Yep, its unironically over in the niji en thread. They ruined it, holofags you have to be the final stand. Imagine endless ship posting of your oshi with another guy and/or gay male fanart nonstop + fujos and gays in your thread calling you an incel

>> No.20431781

>>20391049
Where did this be thing come from? I haven't done my reps

>> No.20433805

>>20431781
*bf

>> No.20433937

>>20429849
>desired by young women once more
Male hags are already desired by young women and most of their limiters work just fine.

>> No.20435889

you stupid niggers actually think ship posting is going to be an issue after StarsEN?
what the fuck do you think we have right now
the talents themselves were fucking shipping themselves with each other

there is literally no fucking chance of Stars x Live shipping ever reaching the level of the girls getting shipped
if you fucking morons didnt want shipping, you should be complaining about the unfunny shit we already have
NoeFure fucking sucks
OkaKoro is disgusting
AquShio is a comedy duo of two friends, so they're the only good "ship"

starsEN won't cause any shipping issues
its always been the yurifags

and the stars general is the most well behaved on the site
the fujos actually spoiler all the gay shit, its fantastic, you don't even know it exists

>> No.20435930

>>20435889
>OkaKoro is disgusting
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.20436314

>>20435930
yuri is disgusting

>> No.20436492

>>20436314
Fucking based

>> No.20436984

>>20388203
Reminder that Ame is a huge fan of Holostars and is in general a giant fucking fujo, but proceeded to keep her mouth shut about them after a shitton of people started harassing astel cause she acknowledged him once, and she decided not to cause the stars any more trouble from that moment on.
She probably see's Stars EN as a second chance to do something she missed out on previously

>> No.20437046

>>20436984
>but proceeded to keep her mouth shut about them after a shitton of people started harassing astel cause she acknowledged him once
This literally never happened.

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