who the hell came up with the term "livers"?

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it's so fucking bad, there's no reason not to use "streamer" or "chuuba" instead

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niji's didn't want to be called vtubers

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It works in Japanese and that's all there is to it
You might as well ask why "smart" is used like "slim" in Japanese

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>>20381714
>It works in Japanese and that's all there is to it
Lack of foresight, kinda like the rest of Niji projects.

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>>20381925
To say it displays foresight to cater your content to westoids is ignorant at best.

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>>20381925
nobody could've predicted the vtuber explosion in the west, you would've been better off winning the lottery than that prediction back in 2018

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You know what pisses me off way more? "Zatsudan". There are so many fucking english words that are equivalent. Do EOPs just want to feel special for knowing two or three japanese words or something? It's embarrassing.

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I know that hololive claims they aren't an idol agency....but that's basically what they are. The girls are chosen for their talents and skills, and are expected to keep to idol standards. No lewd, not too much cursing,no associations with males.....etc. Nijisanji talents on the other hand are basically just streamers. They're chosen for their ability to put on an entertaining stream. and their ability to make friends with the other talents.

Case in point, most of the Hololive talents were singers, artists, or what have you. While nearly all of the Nijisanji talents were streamers. In fact all of them.

I think using a different term like "liver" to describe the nijisanji talents is appropriate.

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>>20381537
I always thought the term liver came from the fact vtubers were video only for the most part. so being live was a distinguishing factor

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>>20382097
>will call vtubers "chuubas" which comes from the japanese pronunciation of "tubers"
>doesnt want to say zatsudan
faggot

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>>20382355
>I know that hololive claims they aren't an idol agency
But it's the exact opposite. It's the redditors that won't stop milking the "haha not really idols amirite" joke.

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>>20381537
Once again it's Germany's fault.

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>>20382355
>The girls are chosen for their talents and skills, and are expected to keep to idol standards
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Only Sora and Azki are idolike in the company, hell even the boys are more respectful and respect your "idol" culture.
A ton of the JP girls are dirty as fuck with some of the shit they talk about.

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Better than than slapping the term idol on a bunch of fake whores.

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>>20382895
That's kinda true though. When Nijisanji started, almost all the chuubas at that time were video only and rarely stream. Combine with the fact that Nijisanji was the only vtuber agency that used Live2D instead of 3D, you can get the reason they called themselves "liver" in order to distinguish from the rest of chuubas.

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>>20383039
Fucking shit Shylily.

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>>20382895
the term "livestreamers" or "streamers" for short already existed. there was no need to make up the term "livers". it's also just stupid that it's spelled the same as the digestive organ (hence why streamer is better shorthand for livestreamer)

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>>20387053
"Liver" is used in japanese like you use "deja vu" in english. How the fuck do you know they used "streamers" before "liver"? It was always "liver" and "haishinsha"

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>>20382355
>talents and skills
stopped reading right there

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>>20387414
This is the correct answer for dumb EOPs who only discovered Japanese streamers within the past 2 years
ライバー or 配信者

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>>20381537
elevens can't into english
next question

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>>20383183
>Kiara, Nene and Moona are ex-idol
>Some are ex-utaite, musician, artist, ex-content creator specialized in dancing, etc
But yeah they love to talk about shits so it's 50/50 I guess

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>>20381537
It comes from the cannibal culture in japan. The first type of livestream was cooking shows made by ainu in southern tokyo in 1852. The term liver quickly became an affectionate term for the presenters. In ainu culture, livers were believed to be where the umami was created. Umami is the taste of savoriness, I won't explain exactly what it is, you can check wikipedia for that. The presenters were given the name Keen-tama which in ainu means liver like the organ. At the time the word was either left untranslated or translated in japanese. The term liver became a bit more popular during the 1930s before becoming defacto ban during world war 2, as most indo-european loanwords were. Due to mistreatment of the ainu people by the empire of japan, their culture and language was made illegal and became taboo. After the end of world war 2 and the surrender of the japanese empire, loanwords exploded in popularity, the term "liver" became the norm and as ainu culture and language was severely damaged from the mistreatments mentioned before. They sadly never fully recovered. The empire destroyed most videotapes, dvds and blurays of those cooking shows during world war 2. As livestream started becoming popular again and became affordable for the masses, the term liver for stream presenter came back in use. And that's the short history of the term "liver".

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>>20390855
can I buy your latest novel

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>>20381537
it does the needful

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>>20387414
This is why I don’t understand hate over the use of liver on this board, bizarre. It’s so engraved in jp language that it’s just normal. But it does sound absolutely fucking stupid when an EN chuuba says it though.

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>>20381537
How to say you never knew Japanese existed before vtubers in one post

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>>20382355
This board and the average leddit hololive fan share at least one thing in common, and that is their perception of what a Japanese idol is being stuck in 2010.

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Seconds in which /vt/ went without Holofags asking a retarded EOP question: 0

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>>20383183
>I think that no one from AKB48, NMB48, or any other IRL idol group has ever told a dirty joke or talked about their bodies.

You don't watch idols. The Holos are a tiny bit more risque than traditional idols, but they follow idol standards almost to a tee. Yes, even EN. The only difference, which is still trying to be understood by the Holos, the company, and the fans, is what degree of separation exists between the character and the roommate.
The truth is you're just an EOP faggot that believes the shit you read here from other EOP faggots and regurgitates it for other EOP faggots like some sort of retard ouroboros.

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Challenge:
Say "chuuba" in public unironically without committing suicide afterwards.

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>>20381537
It's always fun when someone translates liver and the organ comes up.

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>>20381537
the doctor keeps calling me a retard when i tell him i have chuuba damage

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>>20396126
people say youtuber all the time

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>>20383183
AZKi isn't an idol, she is a diva

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>>20382097
This board also loves to constantly use 'fujo' and manages to misuse its meaning 99% of the time kek

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>>20396421
If you think english is the same as ingurihsu then go ahead Girugamesh lmao.

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>>20396421
I'm samefagging because you're dumb.

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>>20396345
it took me alot longer than i'd like to admit to get this joke

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>>20396800

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Il use livers from now on to piss you faggots off

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>>20381537
Why would you call an internal organ “chuuba” or “streamer?”

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>>20381537
>Hololive
>Hololiver
>Liver

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>>20381537
Chubbas / vtubbers are the only proper nomenclature.

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>>20396126
They'd probably just think you're British

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>>20400295
myself, I prefer teletubbies.

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>>20381537

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>>20400079
everyone just calls them "holos" for short, nobody ever calls hololivers "livers" for short
i'm pretty sure it's almost exclusively a nijinigger thing to use the term "liver" instead of the more sensible term "streamer"

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>>20402366
>>/vt/thread/S7278434

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>>20382087
>Doesn't know about Gorillaz