/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

They threw away memories for 2 years 7 months just like that, I think Cover is too cruel

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Wtf, where is Rushia?

[Anonymous No.]

Shouldn’t have violated the contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058951
>Rushia
WHO?

[Anonymous No.]

The way they treated coco was really fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058951
Getting porked by mafumafu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Yeah this is frankly weird. Lots of people get fired in entertainment but they aren't unpersoned and airbrushed out of existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058950
The contract is violated all the time and smoothed over later, they were likely looking for a reason to fire her at that point that wasn't related to her royally fucking up while conning paypigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058951
Gone, Reduced to Atoms

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
>I think Cover is too cruel
I personally think the CEO of Sex and the CEO of GFE were crueler than Cover

[Anonymous No.]

Would you really want her to be made fun of for the rest of her career in every stream, every discussion, and probably every collab partner? It's like keeping someone alive who is in extreme pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
I think Cover is based

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
I understand if they fired the voice actor but the characters are still company assets. why should it also be deleted?

[Anonymous No.]

>rushia nuked
>aqua stopped streaming
onion is being targeted by that whore.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok but where is Aloe? She wasn't terminated so why they didn't add her? Not enough subscribers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059580
Risk of lawsuit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
It's like getting divorced after being married for more than 2 years and pretending that your ex never existed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059700
Aloe is still streaming. Also having lots of utaite sex behind your back but surely you don't care about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059700
Embarrassing incident. Makes the company look chaotic and stupid. Best to just sweep it up.

[Anonymous No.]

time to move on, fandead

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Based, fuck with YAGOO get the horns

[Anonymous No.]

It takes about 700 live viewers to safely make Youtube your full-time career. Although a few streamers like Nene have unusually devoted fans, and can make a full-time income on 200 - 250 viewers.

Every single member of hololive is a millionaire. Every single one.
Even the Hololive ID members all became so wealthy they moved to America. For a top-tier hololive streamer like Rushia, she was probably making over $10 million per year. It wouldn't be a surprise if she had a bank account in the 8 digits.

You think anyone in Hololive gives a fuck about "feelings". It's a business.
They take weird incel virgins from 4chan, and exploit their feelings of abandonment for cold hard cash. They ride around in private jets and buy diamond rings, while you grow old with no girlfriend in sight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059754
>Also having lots of utaite sex behind your back but surely you don't care about that.
Nobody who is a fan of Delu would give a shit about who she is or isn't having sex with, and if they did it's really a grave they dug for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060092
>Even the Hololive ID members all became so wealthy they moved to America.
Before anybody takes this rrat seriously, no they didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Remember, this can also happen to your oshi in the future

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059775
So Taiwan yab isn't embarassing? And the fact they couldn't keep top 1 superchat earner because of "creative disagreement"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059754
citation needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
If they had to remove them then fine, but if Coco gets left in, so should the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060197
The only thing embarrassing about Taiwan is how mad the Chinks get when it's mentioned as a country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058951
I have no idea who you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059001
Whoshia Anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059700
Aloe isn't there because she had three streams, and the only solo one was her debut. She had no time to develop a character and as much as Gen 5 like to say they are 5 forever or some shit there is no real connection there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060092
Millionaire in african currency

[Anonymous No.]

Termination means deletion of character. It's very simple. Coco graduated so she did not get Thanos snapped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060092
Jokes on them I spent $0 and plan on spending $0

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Will Kanata persuade Coco to make a surprise appearance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060529
Nope. Take Calliope Mori for example.
>$30,000 a month in superchats
>600,000 vod views per day, $4 per 1000 vod viewes = $72,000 a month
>estimated 10,000 members = $50,000 per month
Sponsorships and Merchandise can be many times this total. All in all, Mori easily makes between $2 million -$5 million per year.

And Rushia was far more popular than Mori.

There are livestreamers who can fully support themselves on 100 live viewers. You think someone with over 1000 live viewers is struggling to get by? Ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
She fucked up anon, I liked her antics and shit but she fucked up big time because she couldn't wait for the company to do something and because she trusted some dramafag.
Is best you just let go and follow her on the new account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Because nobody else other than you losers wants to look at official Cover releases and be reminded of the dumb bitch who caused a gigantic yab

This isn’t a damnatio memoriae. For the last time, Cover isn’t trying to make us forget her. They’re just saying THEY’RE never going to talk about her again because why should they bring up someone they’re embarrassed of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059157
I understood that reference

[Anonymous No.]

>>20061055
I don't, what it's from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
>break contracts
>try to take down the company in flames alongside her "friends"
Yeah, nah, fuck her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20061055
Go back to r*ddit, nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
Youre right! Cover should have added an asterisk stating that Uruha Rushia was terminated for breaking NDA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060903
The funny thing is the drama addicted faggots here would've absolutely done the same thing in Korekore's shoes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060258
Do your reps
I'm not appealing to majority but there's a reason that one anon agreed with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059723
this is how divorce works in Japan. one parent gets the kid and that's it. rate is the case where they ever see the other parent again.
on a lighter angle, characters commonly stay with one seiyuu forever. if the seiyuu retired, so does the character.
many similar such cases.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly I can't tell if people defending Rushia and blindly hating Cover is a meme or not anymore.

Rushia literally backstabbed Hololive and its members, if anything she was the one that threw 2 years and 7 months memories away. It's way worse because she was a big figure that was around for a long time doing these shitty things, unlike Aloe that barely was present.

Coco is still acknowledged by Cover because she left in good terms while I think Calli is gonna be the only member that will acknowledge Rushia since she is clearly ignoring what she did and having this bias because they were friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20061088
Human centipede

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>>20062086
Mate, I think I'd know if it came from my favourite comedy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20060840
Coco has talked about this before. They make a small salary (probably around $30k) and they get superchat money. However, when a superchat is sent, youtube takes about 30% of it. Then, the company takes 50% of that. The chuuba gets whats left. They also make money off of merch, but once again, they only get about 50% of that.

Unless the contracts have changed, they dont make any money off the VODs and all of that goes to the company. Even so, im sure that is only a small amount comparatively. I would think, knowing Rushia is the highest superchatted member of hololive, this would put her around the millionaire mark if she doesnt waste her money. The rest of them however are probably still well within 6 figures. Still not poor, but definitely not as rich as you say they are.

Also, dont forget taxes, which i dont feel like looking up the japanese federal and province income tax or whatever it goes through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20061437
>Do your reps
yeah fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20061437
>>20062204
how to do my reps anon I'm ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062031
>Pekora, Noel, and various other holomems have all mentioned rushia by name in recent streams.
>Calli will be the only one to acknowledge her=EOP who only watches clips
>do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062191
>They also make money off of merch, but once again, they only get about 50% of that.
Lamy has talked about how they foot the bill for their own merch, but then get most of the profit from it back.
>>20062204
NTA, but it isn't all the uncommon for current Aloe threads to get made here, it isn't even a case of doing your reps to find her it's just a case of not being a blind cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062191
Highest tax rat is 45% so assuming that YouTube takes its cut before taxes and cover half after taxes Rushia is left with about 500-600k from her 3 million lifetime earnings. People who think they easily earned these insane amounts socialblade or whatever is displaying have never worked a day in their life it seems

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062191
Coco only talked about the SC split, she didn’t touch on memberships, ad revenue, merch or sponsorships. Deron talked about the different sources and their revenue splits but didn’t mention SC splits. Pretty much all everyone knows about SC revenue split is from a throw away comment from Coco lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062380
>how dare you not watch every single second of holomem streams to not know that they have talked about rushia
Regardless what I said still stands, Rushia doesn't really deserve forgiveness since she truly fucked up. Honestly is too kind that Holomem even say her name after what happened but it doesn't surprise me that her simps still adore her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059580
When the character openly associated with mafumafu, there was nothing else to salvage
You guys act like cover fired her out of spite, when they are a company that seeks profits and she was their best moneymaker, so for cover to fire her immediately, she fucked up really hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
>Rushia got STALINED
Hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059133
there's a difference between jaywalking and running a red light

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059093
What you meant to say was
>I do not understand how Japanese entertainment works, but I will assert myself with full confidence because I'm a retarded gaijin who does not understand how common unpersoning is.
t. iwnbj

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda mad how vile everyone gets for her one fuckup when there's also 2,7 years of building trust and support for hololive and its members before that. Seems like cover doesn't even need to do anything for everyone to instantly forget all of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062912
It only takes a single moment to lose all trust you've built and you're never getting it back no matter how hard you try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062600
You forgot the additional 10% resident tax and social insurance

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062758
Deron talked about the SC split, it's why Nijisanji had to make a statement about it being 50/50 and booth sales (which is where 90% of merch and 100% of voicepacks are sold) being 100% towards the vtubers in question. The only thing that hasn't been touched on is music/live tickets and limited time goods sold outside of booth, like any given Dwango Lotto or whatever the fuck they're called and pop-up cafe deals, but they're so rare it really doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058950
Shouldn't have gottent penetrated by the alien troon's cock either, she became hysterical after that moment...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063015
this even ignoring the rrat about rushia leaking addresses and how many onaholes she has molded after noels delicious hag pussy, she still did something that warranted not only losing all of staffs trust but also the trust of pretty much everyone she considered a co-worker
like is there even a single reason NOT to unperson her when even the watamelon was as dry as the sahara?

[Anonymous No.]

Rushia is the one who chose twink dick over her fans and coworkers.

>>20060092
I think 10M is way over the line. Top holo talents probably make several million a year in income but between taxes and the youtube/cover cuts I think they'd be lucky to take home 1 million which is still a lot of money sure but no where near 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058950
>>20058873
This, upset the fuhrer Yaglin and you are gone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063217
>(I'm actually trying to get some info to confirm a few things in regards to Flare and Rushia I need it translated properly first though l, since I'm rusty on Jap and I want everything to be completely accurate, and the backing statement by the superchatter is also needed, but if everything checks out the narrative could shift)
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

i love the soviet union, i mean cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063217
>now I don't know if you know a thing about the Japanese language
>I need it translated properly first though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063387
Show me how it's done then faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058873
>Coco still gets shown
Based as fuck. Too strong to retcon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062031
this is a rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063217
Bacharu still called Tama by his nickname for her, Tamatama, even after she literally ruined the entire career of both his company and turned him into glue only to come back a couple of times years later.

This is why I fucking hate EOPs. Stay in your own leanlane faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063476
>I don't even understand Japanese
>But I'm still listening to shit I don't understand to shift my narrative
Just shift the narrative of your life and kill yourself faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063589
cuckbeat deflection thread

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>>20062772
>she was their best moneymaker
Marine, Pekora, Aqua and Fubuki exists. Superchats are small change, the real money is from investors and sponsors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063535
>suffixs alone define sentences on if they're positive or negative

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064018
She was the queen of superchats and GFE merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064039
I want Sui to look at me like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064018
Even assuming rushia was a flat 10% of covers income, it's still worth cutting her just so she doesn't bring the flames into the other 90%

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062912
not one fuckup, fucked over the company itself and also a number of fellow holomens.

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>>20063214
Anon most people don't deduct their taxes from their salary. A guy making $60,000 a year doesn't say "I make $40,000 a year.

Anyway, a guy making $70,000 a year can finance a $1 million home using mortgage loans. And he can finance a $20,000 car to drive himself to work. That's the average middle class person in America.

Mori making $2 million per year can finance a $10 million mansion, and probably rides around on private charted jets drinking expensive French wine. That's the type of lifestyle she's living. Rushia was more popular than Mori, she legitimately might have something like $50 million in the bank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063217
>>20063535
This shit posting faggot actually deleted his shit, what a fucking coward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064284
mister steiner, that's not how math works

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059700
Aloe never started, there's no product to begin with.

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>>20059754
>aloe is starting to heal and move on in life
>utaite's have been getting exposed as being literal scum recently
>aloe is fooling around with them
She's so close to having peace of mind but I guess it's just a pipe dream. I will wait for any information about her getting beat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064090
And getting a repeating deal with Lawson or Family Mart is worth more than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064149
I want this look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064284
>$1 million home
You can get a mansion with that money. Or a broom closet in New York.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064368
The lead she had over the others offsets that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064284
Go to bed, you're drunk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064338
That is the type of lifestyle that someone making millions per year is living. Rushia was making 10's of millions.

I think you're forgetting that 500 viewers is enough to make streaming your full-time career. And with a highly devoted audience, you can do it on 100 viewers. Rushia had a lot of viewers, and they were all highly devoted. She probably was making 100x the average salary, which puts her in the realm of making over $10 million per year, especially once you account for all the merchandise sales.

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>>20063015
I just think treating her like this giant evil entity that was out to burn everything to the ground is just a bit stupid after such a long time of doing the absolute opposite, it doesn't really add up. Cover also fucked up plenty but still revels in unconditional support from the masses.

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>>20064424
Offset what?

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>>20064498
Well maybe she shouldn't have straight up told Korekore to make them all suffer if she offs herself.

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>>20064362
Anon, I hate to tell you this, there's only ever been three types of japanese streamers.
>utaite
>tittystreamers
>gamestreamers
and the latter two are sometimes utaites and at least half utaites respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064502
Whatever extra money other talents got through extra individual sponsorships, because she also took part in sponsorships or deals

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064204
>Company
True
>Other holomems
rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064498
I sincerely hope you never date anon, not because I don't want you to breed, but because theres a high chance whoever you'll end up with will be beating you for years with your mindset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064498
Some things you just need to look at objectively no matter how much you might like someone. This time that someone was an active liability and you don't keep those around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064583
>Whatever extra money other talents got
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about how much money Cover Made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064546
Add to this Delu as a horny teenage girl wanted to become an utaite because she heard it's easy to get laid as one.

[Anonymous No.]

who's aloe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064498
>Coworkers love you, you donate to charity, take care of your wife and kids and everyone thinks you're a good guy
>but then you burn down ONE orphanage and they hate you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064679
Even if cover made a lot, Rushia was still one of their top earners. They would've not fired her and lose that money by offering refunds for nothing

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>>20064699
No, like with literally 80% of japanese streamers pre-2018, she wanted to become an utaite because that's the only way you got popular on niconico. That or being a VocaP, but that's not streaming.
There's a reason why every game streamer who didn't start as a utaite eventually releases songs even if they can't sing for shit. Shit, there was a duo that disbanded after a decade of game streaming sometime late last year and you look at their content and it's 20% songs.

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>>20064628
If there have been years of building trust beforehand I might be willing to forgive one fuckup or at least hear the person out properly before judging. It comes down to character roo. Rushia was a menhera but she wasn't really out to put everyone else in the dirt just because, seemed more like a irrational fit of rage to me. God forbid I said dumb shit I didn't really mean in a fit of rage too.

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>>20064814
>Rushia was still one of their top earners
why do you keep repeating this as if it means literally anything? if johnny gets caught peddling dope at reception it doesn't matter if he's sold 10 houses and 20 condos in the past week, you're still going to cut him off if he doesn't stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>20063052
Can you post Anycolor’s statement, this is the first time I’ve heard about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20064735(me)
who's aloe guys pleaseeee

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>>20065013
There's a difference between "dumb shit said in a fit of rage" and "breaking the first and second rules of any company (don't leak shit and don't make a PR disaster) and doing so repeatedly over the course of dozens of hours and technically months".

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>>20064640
This is more about her public image honestly. It was in covers right to fire her but there's a fuckton of slandering going on that I just can't really agree on.
>>20064766
False equivalency, no one came to harm except Rushia

[Anonymous No.]

>>20065013
Rushia had been trickling sensitive company data to a fucking drama channel for months just to clear her name or get some alien dick.

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>>20064640
I liked Artia (before we all found out how much of a bitch she was), but as soon as Coco got suspended, I said to everyone I could that they needed to drop CN immediately and leave the girls to their fates.

People got so mad at me for that and started going “muh innocent girls who did nothing wrong”

My response was something like,
> Yo, we bombed Dresden, we did that Grave of the Fireflies shit in Tokyo, and we nuked two cities. That shit was based, but thousands of innocent civilians died. I’m saying we need to fire six girls to save the company. Get the fuck over yourselves.

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>>20065013
Yeah I mean of course there's a difference between accident and doing things deliberately. Some members have leaked info by having stuff open in the background and as they try to show something they accidentally show that information. Rushia took that kind of info and ran with it to an outsider to get ugly alien tiwnk cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20065073(me)
>>20065265
what did artia do pleaseeeee2V8GS

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>>20065154
PR liability I can see but leaking shit for months sounds like bull to me honestly. Covers "ongoing investigation" conveniently concluding right when that korekore drama unfolds is like a children's first attempt at deceiving the public and I haven't ever seen proof of what she was supposed to be leaking BEFORE that mafumafu affair.

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>>20065013
Do you genuinely believe they didn't hear her out properly before judging? My man, she said she wanted to die in a now-deleted tweet that 100% did not go through management and then hucked her phone off of her apartment complex for a fake suicide and manipulative personal attack against someone way only arguably slightly smaller than Cover on her personal account.
And that's just the problems they ran into her within the same 48 hours. Neither you nor I know how many talking-to's she's had over the course of years and if you want to argue speculatives for her you also need to consider the speculatives against her.

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>>20065326
She secretly sympathized with the zhang trolls and mocked Coco for getting flooded by wumaos

Basically, she was a zhang, and she’s secretly brainwashed to be a nationalist, racist, fascist piece of shit like most zhangs are

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>>20065370
It "conveniently concluded" because it was the pin on the board along with everything else they already had on her you retarded fancuck.

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>>20065370
It’s not that far-fetched. Rushia has known this guy for close to a decade and trusted him (god knows why) and she’s admittedly not that smart of a person. Her manager actually found out in January that she had been in contact with him since November and advised her to never talk to him again. The korekore shit is what basically sparked a full investigation from corporate into her activities. The guy even said on air that she gave him shit he never asked for that would get him in trouble if you want to believe him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20065608
but why is only she blamed for it?
why were the other holoCN graduated instead of being terminated like russia?

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>>20065489
The version that I know was that she's been talking to her manager who tried to contact the higher ups and then cover released a statement that fueled the fire with the private life is the talents own business line. I seriously doubt they included rushia when making that statement or she wouldn't have had a reason to desperately extinguish all of it with the leak.
>>20065261
rrat
>>20065617
I'm not a fandead but you're company drone

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>>20065326
She was a bugman through and through who egged zhangs on to harass Coco.

Yagoo was based as fuck for burning down that branch. Only Chowa would've been worth saving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20065769
why wasn't she sued instead

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>>20065735
The official reasoning has always been that they were graduated for not making them any money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20065854
can I get a source please (my first time using 4chan sorry)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058951
Got sanction by the West

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>>20065747
>The version that I know was that(ry
I didn't ask about any of that. I'm asking you straight as possible what reason do you have to firmly believe in the speculation that she had a perfectly clean history behind-the-scenes over the years and what reason do you have to firmly disbelieve a not perfectly clean history behind-the-scene over the years?

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>>20065847
That was Chinese branch, Cover wouldn't have gotten anywhere trying to do that.

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>>20065735
She wasn’t. We didn’t find out about any of this until afterwards

The six CN girls werent officially fired, they graduated for a bullshit excuse. The real reason was that Hololive had to gtfo of China, so obviously everyone associated with the company in China would lose their jobs

That’s what I was saying, that Cover needed to leave CN and fire everyone, whether or not they did anything wrong, because doing business with China means you’re their bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

once a talent is terminated, it's the decent thing to do to stop using her image for profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20066056 (me)
To clarify, none of the stuff that happened was Artia’s fault. People here just hate her the most out of the six CN girls because there’s evidence she was a two-faced lying cunt. Same with Rosalyn.

Yogiri in particular was sweet and didn’t deserve this. Her only crime was being born a zhang. But again, like I said, it’s not as bad as getting vaporized in Nagasaki.

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>>20066141
who's artia, rosalyn and yogiri now?

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>>20065747
>I seriously doubt they included rushia when making that statement or she wouldn't have had a reason to desperately extinguish all of it with the leak.
I seriously doubt Cover wanted to lose all the money they did if they didnt have to. Maybe, just maybe, Rushia was in the wrong on wanting to make her statement, maybe someone panicked and possibly mentally unwell shouldnt be the one making those sorts of calls.

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>>20065980
because anon doesn't want to believe breaking her own rules a suicide threat and a fake suicide attempt are already damning enough to fire someone public facing without including nda breaking

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>>20065980
Because there's simply no reason to believe otherwise with all the projects she has been doing with her co-workers and as part of hololive and not just as regular solo streamer that happens to be in a company. I don't believe things are clinically clean or anything but sankisei was famed for their unity. So much, in fact, that it left its mark on the company as a whole and other gens wanted to imitate that sense of unity as well.
This image hasn't been dismayed over the course of her whole career so it seems nonsensical that there's some burning grudge going on from her side or anything, there was never any indication of it as far as I'm aware.
Only thing that comes to mind is her being a PR desaster due to being menhera but this was also a big part of her gfe appeal and cover was encouraging her to do gfe, so...
As I see it cover has had a much bigger part in fucking everything up based on speculation that's based on the information I have. Not sure what else to tell you.

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>>20066557
Ah, I see. You're not crazy, you're batshit insane.

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>>20066213
Three of the girls in Hololive CN. At least two were fucking cunts (Artia and Rosalyn), and I literally would not shed a tear if they got kidnapped by 11s who wanted to recreate unit 731. At least two (Yogiri and some other girl I can’t be bothered to remember) were sweet and didn’t do anything.

The conversation was originally about how it’s necessary to get rid of people sometimes for the good of the company, referring to why it’s good that Rushia was fired. I was agreeing by reminding everyone of the time Hololive fired all the CN girls and how that was the right move even though AT THE TIME, it seemed like all six were innocent

The ones who were backstabbing cunts we didn’t find out were cunts until, like, a few weeks or a month after that, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062835
The contract is written deliberately to enable them to dump problematic whores.

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>>20066625
Refute what I said instead of buzzwording like a braindamaged retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062375
Search "delutaya"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20059001
The traitor whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20058951
Who is Rushia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20065058
I'm implying she did worse things to get herself fired

[Anonymous No.]

>>20062835
>jaywalking and running a red light with a broken indicator light after keying a cop car

FTFY

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>>20066653
I do remember that there were some trying to drag Civia into it too but I never found out if she was clean in the end.

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>>20064766
Cover dick suckers are funny

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too many bootlickers in this thread. there's nothing wrong with whistleblowing about bullying to Korekore and Narukami in hopes of rectifying the situation since management was clearly not acting on it. this was the kind of shit Luna left Niji over for fuck sake.

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>>20067282
have a (You)
>>20063880

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>>20066056
CN was originally going to be transferred to another company while keeping their avatars. But when Artia and friends got exposed for being two-faced whores, that was when they got the axe.

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>>20058873
Cover redeemed themselves, I kneel

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>>20062835
This

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>>20064498
You are dumb

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>>20067358
>defending dramaniggers
These fuckers commit defamation all the time, of course people have a good reason to tell Rushia to stay away from them

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>>20067770
Make counter arguments that havent been discussed in here yet or sit down kiddo

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>>20066988
Have her tits always looked this good?

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>>20067872
>counter argument
Nigger, if someone says the sky is green you just call them dumb and thats it.

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>>20062912
anon that one fuckup is the nastiest form of fuckup that is actually irredeemable

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>>20068032
You at the bottom, just where you are in all of your life.

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>>20068153
just ignore the cuckbeat anon, it's not worth it during SEAnigger hours

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>>20067358
imagine thinking the slightest disagreement with you is bootlicking
cover is a genuinely shitty company that's gotten away with far too much both abroad because of eops and in japan because of gachis, but even i can tell you cutting rushia was the right thing and even if they had to make up a reason itd be worth it desu

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>>20065370
I can't believe YAGOO conspired with Kolakola to have his top supacha earner fired over 5ch boyfriend rrats

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>muh years of trust
Most assholes know that they should pretend to be nice at first in order to gain your trust before stabbing you. Those 2 years were a lie. It's tough and sad but it's true and fully her fault.

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>>20068510
See, now this is schizoposting. It's way more likely Rushia being the menhera she is latched obsessively onto any show of positivity in her direction, like so many menheras do, and also like a menhera blew up at the slightest provocation.
That doesn't make it a lie. It just means it was never that deep at best, because you'd be surprised how many people can write off menhera tendancies and for how long.

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>>20062898
I love this argument that since it's normal in Japanese culture (and really only a specific niche of Japanese entertainment culture) that it's not somehow weird.

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>>20058873
Hololive is fucking insane that they actually try to memoryhole people they fired. How stupid do they think people are that they'll just forget her. Nijisanji never did this. But it's also because they're not a shitty company so they never had to fire anyone LOL

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>>20067481
Is that official or is that rrat, because I remember it being the CN managers just made shit up about Cover agreeing to let them keep their avatars when reality they were trying to pressure Cover into doing it during negotiations (it failed)

And then all the Artia shit happened afterwards

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>>20068703
SEAnigger spotted

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>>20059093
It's probably to do with money. Coco resigning would likely still involve an NDA and an agreement regarding ongoing royalties. With rushia getting fired, those preceding don't happen and the only thing that keeps things in line is the threat of litigation. She can't divulge any more company secrets without getting sued for damages and they can't continue to make money from rushia's character without the possibility that she can sue for royalties.

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>>20067481
>>20068718 (me)
I also remembered that it was an IP issue that made it impossible for Cover to just hand that over. Unless that was just a rrat and not real either, but it’s definitely one that was discussed at the time, not something I just made up

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>>20062898
Honest question from me here, since cover pretty much is a global company by now and operates globally instead of a homegrown japanese marketu onri, shouldn't they also be somewhat be held accountable by global standards instead of their own?
This move, while it might be common in the japanese business side of things, will earn them nothing but ire and discontempt when compared to the global audience. And imo it's justified too because you can't just pick out the best cherries and then pretend the whole basket doesn't exist. Especially if the basket is alive and consists of several million people and voices.

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The Uruha Lucia purge incident...

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>>20068703
>Nijisanji never did this.
They did, but he was a literal rapist who actively talked about how much he wanted to drug and rape people on stream years before he debuted, so it was pretty much entirely fans and non-fans laughing at how fucking retarded they were for not doing a proper background check, and as far as I know since then they've only ever had the problems with the foreign branches they also retardedly handed off to others.

And background checks/pre-debut vetting in general are still a huge problem for vtubing companies because you get people like Pippa who are actual unironic as if being ironic would help kiwi's but can't be fired or even unpersoned because these smaller companies can't afford to get rid of the people who will cause problems.

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>>20068851
nta but that argument only applies to the things they're marketing to the west and rushia was not marketed to the west

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>>20068931
qrd for Nijisanji guy and this Pippa person please?

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>>20064284
>Anyway, a guy making $70,000 a year can finance a $1 million home using mortgage loans.
Tell me you're talking or of your ass without telling me you're talking out of your ass.

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>>20068703
>Nijisanji never did this
>What happened to Gibara
>What happened to Lulu

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>>20059580
contractual stuff? both parties didnt reach an aggrement so there a potential risk for a laswuit since what makes a character is in a grey area

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>>20068703
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_a1ZYZ8ZTXpjg9xUY9sj8w/videos

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>>20068996
That is the QRD.
>>20069114
Neither of them got unpersoned, they just graduated/retired and there was even some official stuff that used their characters post-retirements most notably Gibara's newest outfit. I believe Lizelulu continued to air for another month after Lulu's retirement due to the backlog but admittedly that's second-hand knowledge as I never cared much for any of the radio shows so that could just be bullshit.

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>>20066557
Flare implied that the so called "Unity" wasn't all it was said to be on Kiara's holotalk. She tried hard to dodge the question because she knew that behind-the-scenes, Rushia wasn't a great member to be around. This is followed-up by her reaction to Rushia's termination, or lack-of reaction. Watame and FBK reacted the same way. Marine and Pekora's tears during the official announcement were basically due to trusting Rushia and that trust being betrayed.

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>>20069184
I meant to ask who that guy was

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>>20069206
>Marine and Pekora's tears during the official announcement were basically due to trusting Rushia and that trust being betrayed.
drybi?

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>>20069161
>become vtuber
>delete old life
>retire as vtuber
>delete vtuber life
>become irl streamer
>you are (here)

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>>20068982
I can definitely see that side of the argument but at the same time they are all enjoying massive international success and want to appeal to their fans - wherever they might be from. There have been companies that made it clear that their product is for the japanese market (like this shipgirl game besides azur lane) but hololive clear as hell embraces the global audience. However, with a global audience also comes a different set of values so they indirectly shape the general basis for how they operate.
Imagine a company like sony suddenly acting like that, it wouldn't bode well for them either because they operate on a global scale.

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>>20069300
>but hololive clear as hell embraces the global audience.
No, they embrace a global wallet because it presented itself. If fansubbers didn't explode after Azur Lane you can bet your sweet bippy there wouldn't even be an EN branch right now.

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>>20069184
So if they weren't unpersoned and did graduate on good terms, then in theory they can do a Coco as well and have their channels archived in perpetuity, but instead they chose to have themselves wiped out? I'm not really familiar with Niji drama, but I know Lulu was one of the most popular and important vtubers of their company, and wiping her is just disrespectful - unless of course it was by her own consent.

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>>20069343
>global wallet
Which brings me back to the original example with the cherry basket. No sane company is out to deliberately chop their legs off to own the libs or something - unless you're konami.

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>>20068982
Rushia didn't have Western attention before but she does now. Not sure if you can reasonably talk about holding Cover to Western standards but it does look weird from the standard Western point of view.

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>>20058873
I'm quite curious whether this affects her appearance in TCGs as well. Are people still allowed to use cards with her image in official tournaments?

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>>20069548
Yeah.

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>>20069404
This is because the West do not practice Damnatio Memoriae unlike East Asian countries, generally authoritarian cultures where "saving face" is the primary imperative. Instead here we have the Streisand Effect. The more you censor or unperson someone, the more will people want to demand and dig up the information. Censorship is utterly useless in covering up the scandalous personalities, so instead, we make them into Lolcows to milk them for entertainment and gossip.
If Hololive was a Western Hollywood company, Rushia will not be fired because driving her into even worse episodes of menhera provides extra lulzy material for gossip magazines.

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>20066988
Civia was in it as much as Artia considering they both spoke for the CN branch in that twitch stream and her mods openly talked about wheelbarrowing Coco and they all were modded in her YouTube graduation.

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Did you expect that they would keep monetizing the character of Uruha Rushia after firing the person that performed as her? That would make them look really bad. Removing Rushia from all materials is a measure to protect Hololive's image, but you're so dumb that you're taking it the other way around.

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>>20070034
>>20066988

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>>20069245
Considering everyone else's response (Flare, Watame, FBK, Pekora, Subaru, etc)..Yes. FBK's is all I needed to see really. If friend feels no pity for you, while she cried her eyes out for Coco, you know something's terribly wrong.

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>>20070366
>trusting the corpo bitch
do holobronies really?

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>>20070900
never failed me once

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>>20058951
Fucking mafumafu

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>>20059700
The girls are posing in their 3D models anon, Aloe didn't have one and she only had like 3 streams? so there are no important milestones and memories to add in the magazine.

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>>20058873
>coco
>not good morning motherfuckers
Fucking one job

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>>20059093
What are you talking about? Nobody advertises talents that they do not currently employ.

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>>20068687
The point that you're missing is that in Japan, where all of this is taking place, it's not weird. Also it's pretty common in the west as well. Corporations routinely memory hole embarrassing former employees, and the actions that lead to Rushia parting ways with Cover were nothing if not embarrassing.

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>>20068851
My guy these are global standards. Rushia fucked up, got fired, and has been removed from corporate mention. That's normal and expected pretty much everywhere in the world.

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>>20070900
>Trusting Friend, Flare, Watame, Polka, Subaru vs trusting 1 menhera bitch that suicide baited on more than one occasion.
Yes, I'd rather trust the former choices. By far.

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>>20071726
she did it once and it was due to stress and depression brought by the betrayal of her "friends" inside and outside of holo
now everyone knows that hololive whores are fake af

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>>20071881
>she did it once
she did it fairly regularly over her career

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>>20060189
My oshi has an IQ above room temperature, so I think she stands a better chance than Russia did.

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>>20071881
it still happened even if she deleted the tweets anon.

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>>20070900
Funny you said that, if Rushia don't fuck up you still going to think of her as one of the so called "corpo bitch" especially since she's one of the top earner.

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>>20071295
They learned the meaning behind those words, so of course they gonna avoid those words.

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>>20068153
>Reddit's hierarchy of pilpul

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>>20058873
What's wrong in this picture?
I see all the members of their respective gens.

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>>20058951
SHE'S IN THE CREASE, I CAN SEE HER

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>>20068783
>they can't continue to make money from rushia's character without the possibility that she can sue for royalties.
Can she tho? As far as i know the character belongs to Cover. If it were like Suisei who used her own indie model to stream on Hololive i can see this happening but that's not the same for Rushia.

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>>20076200
qrd on suisei? did she buy her rights?

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Coco's image is one they want to be associated with. Rushia's image is one that they don't. It's really as simple as that.

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>>20076346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ87zuPkqMs

She made her own model and streamed indie for a while later on trying to join agencies to boost her career, all which she rejected because they wanted her to join as a new character and not Suisei. In the end she managed to get into INNK where she did literally nothing until she was properly transfered into Hololive.

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>>20076564
good for her but what's INNK? a vtuber company?

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>>20068851
No, because they are still held under Japanese laws. Imagine if Mikeneko decides to sue them for using her voice in Rushia's channel without giving her a share of the profit - do you think Cover can go "B-but this is global standard" in Japanese court? Cover only has rights to Rushia the character, not her voice, remember?

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>>20067358
There's also nothing wrong with using a valid legal device to get rid of a contractor who has openly betrayed the trust of the company and talents and literally declared an intent to use korekore to cause suffering to both after commuting suicide. Face it, Rushia was already burning those bridges herself long before the yab. All that happened is that her intentions became public and Cover moved before she could cause any more damage.

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>>20076564
Ok but did she transfer rights on the character to INNK and then hololive? Plus her old design and new are very much different so they might just be concidered different characters?

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>>20076757
That i don't know, would be talking out of my ass if i gave you a proper answer. That's my best guess on why every agency wanted her to use one of their models, to avoid any legal problem.

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>>20058873
she did this to herself

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>>20068703
>>20069114
Bad examples. Nijisanji actually unpersoned Meiro and the date rapist fag who were also fired with cause.
Every company that fired someone with cause unpersoned them.

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>>20058873
Just a reminder that corpos are NOT your friends.

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>>20075526
She's just standing sideways.

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>>20076618
INNK is a now defunct Hololive branch that focused on musician VTubers.

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>>20076757
>Plus her old design and new are very much different so they might just be concidered different characters
They aren't. It took a while for it to be updated too but she is the same vtubing character before and after joining.

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>>20077949
thanks anon, it's really nice to find someone who isn't a schizo

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>>20077839
How? They sided with unicornchads against the whore, regardless of her being their golden goose. Pretty based.

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>>20077433
It hurts, she was the only good one.

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>>20070035
They could have just demonetised her account like Coco.

>>20077433
But did Niji really had to unperson Lulu? She was one of their biggest livers, and unlike Rushia she literally did nothing wrong.

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>>20058873
Contract breakers deserves to be erased.

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>>20059754
>>20060111
>>20064362
>>20064546
>>20064699
See this right here is the difference. Delta isn't GFE she is Daughter Experience. She has personally said her fans feel more like parents and her fans even reject the notion of dating Delu and get annoyed with fans trying to initiate GFE.

She is doing a lot better and has said she has no time for a BF but even if she did no one would care outside of concern fagging over whether or not he is good enough for her. Even then she has said she has no time for romance and experience has shown she is a little autist with a one track mind who can only really focus on one task at a time and would just graduate if she ever found a man. Of course of course DYRB.

*hits pipe*
Let me tell you about daughters anon...

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>>20078327
>Niji unperson Lulu

Idk if "unperson" is the right word considering the recent rerelease of her voice merch with Debi doesn't have her getting axed like their other short-lived member.

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Is participating in GFE the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than grooming a GFE chuuba. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and super chatting a chuuba for at least 2 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful GFE - listening to her stories at bedtime, making her fix her sleep schedule, making sure she had a healthy diet, donating to her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Groomed the perfect GFE? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man into GFE, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20% of your paycheck simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

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>>20059133
This isn't a "you made everyone uncomfortable and caused a mild issue" breach of contract.

This is "You may have literally exposed your peers to psychopaths" breach of contract.

Your understanding on japanese work law is horrible, so let me tell you: Firing employees there is atrociously hard. They put up with incompetent, lazy half assed employees more often than not because firing them is even worse. They are lenient even on harassment if it's not a grunt doing it, so hard it is to clear them out.

An immediate termination like that is only done when the fuckup is NUCLEAR.

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>>20058873
wait why is coco there? Is she having a temporary comeback surprise performance at 3rd fes?

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>>20080456
that only applies to seishain, the contracts the girls are on aren't the kind where the strict labour laws apply

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I believe the high maintenance bitch narratives since after she's terminated, suddenly sankisei now has no problem overlapping each other.

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>>20068153
You just owned yourself by posting the picture and name-calling me.

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>>20068703
>How stupid do they think people are that they'll just forget her.
Eh? Who says anything about "forgeting"? She has been removed from official artwork to avoid triggering ptsd.