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Senchou thread

>> No.2003165

Marine's "apology" https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1376499377217228806
Don't read the comments unless you want to go completely insane

>> No.2003191

fujos will burn in hell

>> No.2003340

>>2003165
what's this about?

>> No.2003348

>>2002968
what did i miss?

>> No.2003357

gyaru-wannabe fujos get the dong first

>> No.2003374

>>2002968
japanese school girls were really hot in the 60's huh

>> No.2003383

Don't worry guys I'm having sex with her tonight

>> No.2003424

I love you senchou!

>> No.2003464

>>2003165
the replies are getting ratio'ed so it means the supporters are still outnumbering them

>> No.2003526

>>2003348
>>2003340
Miko and marine used a BL doujin for a prank in miko's latest stream, they then discuss a bit about the doujin. The author of said doujin is mad that miko got money for using their doujin in the stream and twitter just suddenly went up in flames.

>> No.2003525

>>2003340
Just to avoid confusion, here's a very brief QRD. I'll even try to be objective.

>Miko and Marine bring up a BL doujin of SNK on stream, they discuss the plot a bit and poke fun at it. Apparently Miko left it in the fridge to prank Marine.
>The original author gets mad on Twitter, his complaints are along the lines of 'Why is it that Miko and Marine can profit from making fun of my work, whilst I'm not earning any money at all from that?'.
>privates their account after a larger account finds their tweets and republishes them.
>VOD of the stream is privated before the controversy really picks up any steam.
>Various related hashtags are now trending on Japanese twitter, Miko seems to be more of the target than Marine.
>Most of the tweets are either mad at Miko, discussing the legality of doujinshi/reading doujinshi in streams or making fun of the 'controversy' in general
>Certain elements are trying to dislike bomb Marine and Miko's recent streams.

>> No.2003534

>>2003340
Marine talked about a BL faggot book and read a small piece of it and the author/BL fujos threw a bigger tantrum than the zhangs

>> No.2003567

>>2003526
Don't blame the artist too much, she was just having a vent and didn't expect the nijiniggers to blow it up like they did. You should see the description of her locked account, she keeps editing it and every time she does it just with more and more elaborate ways of saying "please stop this"

>> No.2003627

>>2003525
Lmao the legality
They never showed the doujin and read less than 10% of the text.
Its transformative in nature so they can profit off it per youtube and most USA/EU rules. Japan is fucking retarded if they arent the same since in that case the BL itself would be illegal

and its not illegal to publically have opinions on random shit or else social media wouldnt exist

Cover should not have apologized

>> No.2003659

>>2003525
>'Why is it that Miko and Marine can profit from making fun of my work, whilst I'm not earning any money at all from that?'
why do nips have this DMCA mentality? the people are showing up to the stream because of the vtubers, not because of your fucking homo porno that they happened to talk about

>> No.2003701

>>2003659
it's really weird too when you consider how doujin subculture heavily involves people profiting off of others IP anyways

>> No.2003740

>>2003525
>'Why is it that Miko and Marine can profit from making fun of my work, whilst I'm not earning any money at all from that?'
Oh yeah, they definitely have a paid contract to advertise your doujin and shit on it. They are definitely getting paid to do that.

>> No.2003778

>>2003659
It's just 1 fag artist and they quickly backpedalled when their shit got big.

>> No.2003838

>>2003567
No, the artist is at fault and deserves all the hate they are getting. In fact, they probably deserve worse. I hope they understand this is all because of them being a fucking autistic, talentless piece of shit hack jealous of people more successful than them.

>> No.2003860

Also I love how Japanese people react to this on Twitter:

>It was indeed a mistake, you should reflect on that to be a better person on the future.

Did they commit murder and I didn't know about it? Why are Japanese people so overdramatic?

>> No.2003878

>>2003525
Didn't he also say that he wouldn't sue, even though he made a BL doujinshi off characters he didn't own? This could've been a good opportunity to promote his work, even if it was being made fun of, because I believe Miko and Marine are more known than him. Kind of killed his career over a couple of vtubers laughing at his work briefly in a long stream that most wouldn't have known about if he didn't pull a tantrum.

>> No.2003883

>>2003778
Nope its the fags fans and nijis. Marine and miko have 1k+ dislikes on vids. Compared to more watched gura with maybe 1-200

>> No.2003927

>>2003878
>"Kind of killed his career over a couple of vtubers"
Is this seriously turning into a trend?

>> No.2003973

>>2003860
Going against good "manners" is worse than murder for the japs, and shitstirring niji/NND faggot are twisting what happened to make it look like these two were intentionally offending the artist so even the normies who see the trend jump on the hate bandwagon

>> No.2003994

>>2003927
Not a big one hence cover shouldnt apologize. But doujin circles are small so other artists will judge him for life

>> No.2004009

>>2003860
This honestly infuriates me. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I just have to tell myself they are antis or shitposters from 5chan or something rather than just average Japanese people because it honestly makes me completely loose any respect I have for them. I love traveling to Japan I do it like once every year or two but Japanese society and people being like this really makes me not want to ever live there....

>> No.2004045

>>2003994
Good. I hope they are shunned.

>> No.2004060

>>2004009
A common complaint white people who live in japan have (at least the ones who make videos) all say the amount making mountains out of grains of sand and apologizing rivals canada

>> No.2004093

>>2004060
I have friends (both japanese and foreigners) who live there and they talk about the same stuff.

>> No.2004111

lol imagine thinking twitterfag fujoshits can amount to anything significant

>> No.2004142

>>2003525
Retarded, but that's expected from Japs

>> No.2004268

>>2003860
don't they see the irony that people who tell others to be a better person are likely not that great themselves?

>> No.2004373

>>2003740
It's the idea that people are watching/donating only because that doujin appear. No one gives two fucks about it

>> No.2004510

>>2003165
Here's a clip of what happened, if you speak moon. https://twitter.com/yurimu1068/status/1376491343120244739?s=20

>> No.2004598

>>2003357
What does Choco have to do with this? Although I agree she needs to get the dong first.

>> No.2004622

>>2004510
Nvm found a TL
https://youtu.be/JDstndqNqfI

>> No.2004637

>>2003883
Fucking fujoshit niggers

>> No.2004682

>>1998455
>won't sue
For their own good they better not do it. Bandai's lawyers would have that faggot's head on a plate the same day.

>> No.2004708

>>2004622
Somehow this "translator" doesn't even know whose place they're at. How does this happen?

>> No.2004714

>>2003567
Bitch has to deal with the consequences of her own actions.

>> No.2004725

>>2003525
Does anyone know his twitter?
I want to raid it.

>> No.2004739

>>2003191
imagine shitting on your biggest patrons doorstep and playing victim card when twitter gets bit spicy.
(Senchou has single-handedly funded a sequel to doujins she likes, and is active patron to many so-called fujo-shit artists)

cue Slow clap to autism, you just fucking made the world worse place for everyone over 3$ revenue dispute

>> No.2004750

>>2003525
It wasn't the SNK doujin artist.

>> No.2004792

>>2004725
You are part of the problem. Also it's a woman.

>> No.2004822

>>2004792
I don't care

>> No.2004841

>but muh cultural difference
fujoshits trying to justify being retarded even to the rest of the nips

>> No.2004890

>>2004725
It's this piece of shit right here @naiz0n
DMs were still open some minutes ago.

>> No.2004914

It would be the death of comedy and satire if we can't make fun of fiction. Only pieces of shit would defend this kind of shitty behavior.

>> No.2004940

>>2004841
>muh Japanese culture! You westerners just don't understand our culture!
Actually yes, many people so. Unnecessary, useless, meaning apologies for apologies sake are widely known to be one of the worst parts of Japanese culture and anybody who has lives there knows about it and hates it. Pathetic to see people defending it.

>> No.2005055

>>2004841
Japanese trying to downplay the stupidity of this situation with "u just don't understand our culture" are getting as annoying as the antis

>> No.2005096

>>2003838
Harsh but fair

>> No.2005143
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2005143

Enough of that fag shit
post pirates

>> No.2005167

Whatever the country of origin, fujoshis are among the lowest shit stirring stupid assholes. Almost on par with cosplayers.

>> No.2005208

>>2004914
They weren't even making fun of it. The narrative going around on nip twitter is that Marine and Miko hate BL and used some random author's work for nothing but a joke.

>> No.2005254

>>2005167
true and marine is one

>> No.2005300

>>2005208
And there are people who say that nip twitter isn't as bad as the western one.

>> No.2005346

>>2005300
It's bad in different ways but every bit as horrible, social media was a terrible mistake

>> No.2005395
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2005395

It's weird they only said nice things about his doujin's really. The fucker could of made a ton of money by just replying to them on tweet saying "Thanks for reading it!" and they would have be obligated to reply back probably making a ton of money in the process. Just seems odd since they literally said nothing bad about it.

>> No.2005455

>>2005395
She wanted a share of Miko's SC because she is convinced that Miko has received SC on that stream due to the BL books prank.

>> No.2005483

>>2005395
He/she was complaining that they can't make any money from it because it's out of print, then upload it and sell it online you retard. So many Japs are stuck in the past technologically

>> No.2005489

>>2005455
I'd get a western autist on twitter thinking or acting like this, but I'm surprised even Japan has this type

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2005502

>>2005395
>victim card for daily hugbox fix
welp, that backfired spectacularly...

>> No.2005525

>>2005455
>$3

>> No.2005562

>>2005455
Mikochi bought his shitty comic, he already got all the money he deserves from her

>> No.2005572

>>2005300
Subculture drama making it to mainstream has the same response everywhere.

>>2005395
The author took some issue with Miko saying the pairing name in the wrong order but she doesn't know or care about BL anyways, and Marine corrected her.
So much of this is caused by the author not acknowledging Marine clearly being into the book on the stream.

>> No.2005582

>>2005562
It's never enough for greedy assholes like this.

>> No.2005605

>>2005483
Like I said could have just tweeted at them, would have got a reply and people would have bought other things. I don't know why they wouldn't have been like "Cool free money"

>> No.2005606

>>2004725
If you want to raid, raid the antis. They're starting to attack "foreigners". Calling us pig, braindead, doujin pirates, etc.

>> No.2005649

>>2005572
Author was just being an opportunistic grub whose greed blew up in her face. Until she offers a formal public apology to Marine and Miko she should be shamed.

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>>2004841
>>2004940
What is with this argument and why do they think it's a valid one?

https://twitter.com/qtirx/status/1376539379913482253?s=19

>> No.2005698

>>2003525
Lmao, the guy's a piece of work.
> Complains about not getting money, when he got free publicity + sold out copies
>Marine + Miko did not profit from his content other than a few laughs. No SC were "earned" because of his content
>Dude knew he fucked up because privated his account
>Marine and Miko had to apologize over a nothing burger so now all her fans will shit over this guy

Honestly, the only part where Cover fucked up was privating the video. They should have let people see that most of the anti's are literally just parroting what they read on twitter and making it bigger than what it actually was.

>> No.2005740

>>2005606
...They aren't wrong tho, we have plenty of variety in for-mentioned
>>2005649
Certain artist recently tried to apologize his tweets against holo girls, still MIA after a month

>> No.2005761

>>2005697
But they didn't laugh at it, this guys needs to work on his Jap reps well I guess living in Japan.

>> No.2005763

>>2005740
>They aren't wrong tho
So? That gives them the right to act like retards or something?

>> No.2005800

>>2003165
I'm going to google translate the comments and make wild assumptions based on bad translations and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>> No.2005815

>>2005697
those people on twitter don't act like normal humans

>> No.2005935

>>2005763
more like we should stop giving them ammunition

>> No.2005959

>>2005761
I think they did laugh at the title, but who the fuck titles their doujin "Amuro Raype" and expects people not to laugh at it?

>> No.2005981

>>2003525
>SNK doujin
>Miko filters アムロ and シャア
Sure.

>> No.2005988

>>2005800
Bases, godspeed anon.

>> No.2006013

>>2005935
You're a fucking moron if you think stopping piracy will stop these retards from sperging out like this. They'll look for any excuse to act out.

>> No.2006035

>>2005055
I really hate it when Japanese people think I'm just being ignorant or whatever because I don't understand their culture. No my guy, I understand it completely I am just deliberately disregarding it.

>> No.2006063

Marine needs to graduate for being a fujoshit. I told you guys that fujoshits are bad and this whole debacle has proved my point.

>> No.2006071

https://nhentai.net/g/351967/
Fucking kek

>> No.2006152

>>2006063
It is amazing how quickly ichikeks changed their tune kek.

>> No.2006154

>>2004841
Stuff like this makes me wonder how many times people have tried to pass off some shit as completely normal to foreigners that even most Japanese people think is weird.

>> No.2006173

>>2006063
>>2006152
ogey

>> No.2006180

Somebody needs to print the doujin, put it into a freezer, take the picture of it then send it to the the author.

>> No.2006190

>>2006071
Yeah, all that drama over this piece of shit.

>> No.2006199

>>2005455
How did she even know it was her doujin? If she actually watched the stream, she would have seen that mind if the sc refer to her doujin at all. This is also probably why she backpedaled hard because she had no proof.

>> No.2006220

>>2006063
ok schizo, take your meds

>> No.2006226

Give ONE reason that fujoshits aren't complete trash and shouldn't be allowed in Hololive

>> No.2006346

>>2006226
There isn't one. This situation is a real fucked up one for ichitrannies, either fujoshits are terrible and so is their oshi or the fujoshits are fine and their oshi is in the wrong.

>> No.2006411

>some fujos are shit therefore all fujos are shit
you dumb fucks do realize this is literally like normies thinking everyone from 4chan is a /pol/tard

>> No.2006443

>>2006199
Because it's the only one with that title and people figured it out immediately. Almost every product holos mention on stream gets sold out if they're available so she probably started seeing a lot of activity on her twitter.

>> No.2006505

>>2006411
You do realize they are schizos right?

>> No.2006518

>>2006411
How do we know that Marine is one of the good ones? Cover shouldn't take any risks.

>> No.2006577

>>2003627
>Cover should not have apologized
>>2005698
>Honestly, the only part where Cover fucked up was privating the video
Unfortunately that's how Japanese corporations are, they apologize and cuck out faster than American corporations who unintentionally upset BLM retards.
>>2005489
IMO Japan in general has less people like this, but when they exist they're often far worse than the Western equivalent. Nobody spergs like Japanese spergs.

>> No.2006629

>>2005489
Everywhere has their own schizos, if you don't think so you just don't know about them

>> No.2006782

>>2006199
Just as >>2006443 said. The cover was even posted right when they were talking about it as you can see on >>1965739

>> No.2007108

>>2006199
the retarded artist heard and acted on second or maybe even third-hand information. It always ends up great when they do that.

>> No.2007135

Marine should graduate
She ruin our love for boy's love
her apology is empty and fake

>> No.2007221

>>2006577
>Unfortunately that's how Japanese corporations are
While true, and many don't have problem with this, usually

This time however, the shitshow was spun-up by antis and they apologized

That's the difference
Official apology to the artist would have been ok, General apology was not.
(while many of us agree that snowflake deserves nothing)

>> No.2008274

>>2007221
Good point

>> No.2008466

>>2003860
Probably an anti pretending to be an ichimi.

>> No.2008575

>>2008466
There's a bunch of those actually. I checked a few accounts and they have never really talked about Marine much in the past but now they suddenly have a lot to say.

>> No.2008743

Fuck, I know how much Marine will beat herself up over this bullshit affair. Plz how can anybody hate on this cute pirate?

>> No.2008821

>>2008743
Send her aka supacha anon.

>> No.2008825

>>2008743
She'll be fine, it's not her first rodeo

>> No.2008848

>>2008825
Not that guy but I just don't want to see her doing dogeza unnecessarily.

>> No.2008890

>>2008825
Yes she will, but I'm not looking forward to another sad mengen.

>> No.2008894

>>2008743
Miko is getting the worst of it right now. I'm not going to say I'm particularly mentally well adjusted and I doubt anyone on this site is but I'm nowhere near schizo enough to understand the people on twitter right now who clearly hate vtubers and their fans so are spending all day writing shitty replies about them

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>Miko buys their crappy doujin
>They dont even show it or read all of it
>HOW DARE YOU EVEN BRING IT UP ON STREAM REEEEE

Japan has no idea what fair use or transformative media even is. I thought it was bad in the US but holy shit.

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2008970

shindol said it's allowed to read his doujin on stream. 5ch hopes he draws haachama

>> No.2008995

>>2008848
>>2008890
Me neither, but trust in her. This is one big nothing burger and it'll be over the end of the week.

>> No.2009036

>>2008970
I hope that fujofaggot learned their lesson

>> No.2009064

>>2008995
Yeah, but now the memory of the weekend has been soured.

>> No.2009199

>>2008970
>second tweet is tips on how to say "んほ" properly and how important it is to get it right
Based Shindol, love that guy

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I want to aggressively titfuck her

>> No.2009353

>>33979909
Mikoti's result
>Overall
Very good luck
>Collab
Good luck. A lot of new good collab partners, for whom Miko will become a supporter of sorts.
>Work
A new path. A chance to try something new. There will be failures, but they will become the ground for her future success.
>Health
Neither good nor bad. Will be cases when she wants to do something, but can't physically. Don't overdo it, basically.
>Money
Will waste more money this year. A lot of things she wants (but maybe doesn't need) will appear and Miko won't be able to suppress her desire to buy them.
>Betting/Gambling
Not bad. Very stable. For example, in horse races, bet not to win, but to support the horse you like.
>Advice
Do whatever you want to do and the luck will follow. Make realistic plans/goals.

Marine's result
>Overall
Feels tied up, unable to accept reality. Bad luck.
>Collab
Will accomplish a lot. Should collab with calm/gentle people. Exactly same as Pekora and Miko.
>Work
Extremely good. Will be able to make full use of her talents.
>Health
Basically a total opposite of what she got for work. Bad luck. Watch your health and don't use your youth as a shield.
>Money
Neither good nor bad. Stable. The most important thing is to plan ahead.
>Betting/Gambling
Cheat! Basically, gamble with the intention to defeat your opponent, not just to win youself.
>Advice
It's important to pay attention to other people's feelings and listen to them. It's a good idea to suggest how to overcome troubles.

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2009631

>>2003525
>complaining about "not earning money" from a doujin that uses someone else's IP

>> No.2009712

>>2009631
How new? Marine financed a Promare BL doujin author to make a sequel.
The bitch in this case just hates vtubers so the result would have been the same even if she got a lot of money from this.

>> No.2009757

>>2009712
that movie didn't even have any undertones, why do fujos do it?

>> No.2009816

>>2009757
But it had a huge buildup and a fucking kiss.

>> No.2009877

>>2009757
anon....

>> No.2009879

>>2009816
wut? I don't remember any kiss

>> No.2009984

>>2009879
I mean we can call it CPR but the reason it was put there is obvious.

>> No.2010270

>>2008890
gee when was the last fun mengen? it's just bullshit week after another.

Also manager could fuck off for a while, Senchou barely has time to schedule mengens these days...

>>2008970
sadly, it's still gonna be a blanket ban(if cover says so)

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2010862

If Senchou had a pp would you suck it?

>> No.2011204

Why does /hlg/ think Senchou is being suspended for this?

>> No.2011379

>>2011204
rrat, shitposting the usual
Some people only feel excitement in their life from controversy and sensationalism
No wonder growing up with recent media

>> No.2011396

>>2011204
They don't. You are just retarded enough to fall for that bait.

>> No.2011609

>>2010862
I'd suck whatever senchou put in my mouth

>> No.2011657

>>2010862
Only hers

>> No.2011815

>>2003701
Japan literally carves out a space for doujinshi artists in copyright laws because it's such a huge industry. Anywhere in NA or EU making a porn version of Marvel comic characters with names and likenesses would be a serious fine at least.

>> No.2011849

>>2011204
Are you new to schizoposting?

>> No.2011882

>>2011815
As long as the IP owners are fine with it. Just look at Uma Musume.

>> No.2011996

>>2011204
I guess the schizo is pulling double duty and shitposting there too. This is some mild shit, not worth firing someone over.

>> No.2012014

>>2011815
The copyright holders can and do limit the creation of derivatives though. Fan games are typically prohibited.

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2012065

Would you drink Marine's period blood?

>> No.2012131

>>2009984
Lips touching between two guys for any reason is enough for fujos to say their basically married to each other.

>>2011882
Atlus....
>>2012014
But doujinshi are a market that's almost entirely a free for all excluding holders of a lot of works oriented towards kids. It's only a few mangaka or publishers that ban the sale of recreations of their IP

>> No.2012160

>>2012065
Obviously, also her piss and sweat too.

>> No.2012198

Man /hlg/ really does think she's getting suspended over this and this is somehow worse than the Taiwan incident. Fucking seriously

>> No.2012206

>>2012065
You really should know the answer and don't even ask about her shit

>> No.2012219

>>2012065
Like it was a fine red wine
>>2012160
Based

>> No.2012250

>>2012065
Such a thing is getting rarer and rarer everyday. Obviously, yeah.

>> No.2012279

ignore the retard trying to post the same bait twice in this thread

>> No.2012298

I like you fellow marinebros

>> No.2012336

>>2012131
It's only that free due to the culture.

>> No.2012360 [DELETED] 

spam bots? you mean those accounts that get banned literally 2 seconds after sending a message in chat now?

>> No.2012378

>>2012065
She doesn’t menstruate anymore her bodys 45 plus im busting my load in her

>> No.2012404

Lamy got suspended for the janitor joke, Marine is going to at least be suspended if not graduated.

>> No.2012476

>2012404
trying too hard

>> No.2012491

Just hide

>> No.2012503

>>2012404
Lamy only got 1700 dislikes for that Miko has 5000 currently.

>> No.2012537

>>2012404
>Lamy got suspended for the janitor joke
No she fucking didn't

>> No.2012623

>>2012503
Aloe 14000, if this keeps going it could happen. It is already spiralling and Narukami hasn't even weighed in yet.

>> No.2012638

>>2012503
the dislikes don't even matter now since Cover already kneeled
both idols have issued apology
the author will get paid under the desk, then bullied to hell and back for being a whiny faggot
there's no winner here at all

>> No.2012689

>>2012638
Narukami makes a stream about and possibly digs some old roommate clip talking about a doujin and the fujo autists will be swarming again.

>> No.2012703

>>2012404
>>>/jp/33982543

>> No.2012721

>>2012703
Dear Yagoo, please don't graduate Marine

>> No.2012739

>>2012689
Narukami's account got deleted, no need to worry about that fag

>> No.2012773

>>2012739
He has twitter still and now has twitch.

>> No.2012950

Without a naked dogeza from Marine I can never be at peace.

>> No.2012982

>>2012950
Naked dogeza with her clothes folded beside her.

>> No.2013015

>>2005606
>doujin pirates
Does the doujin author pay money to the original publisher to monetize their property?

>> No.2013249

>>2005489
that's what weeb vision does to you. when you actually get in touch with reality you'll realize japan isn't any different from the rest of the world.

>> No.2013327

Unpopular opinion but the artist didn't really do anything wrong and that yes, there is cultural difference. When you become a creator you will understand but until then consoomers will babyrage.

>> No.2013391 [DELETED] 

Narukami is probably looking for みか○○ clips right now. There is a high chance she has talked about other doujins and made fun of them. If he shows that this is a pattern of behavior and not just a once off things are going to get so much worse.

>> No.2013414

>>2013327
Go back to vyt, Ramon.

>> No.2013419

>>2013327
>cultural difference
stopped reading here. Go back

>> No.2013424

>>2013327
Miko and marine also did nothing wrong. Yet they are getting majority of the shit for something the author started that then was fueled by antis. We should at least be able to bitch about it here.

>> No.2013436

>>2013327
Ken-sama, I-

>> No.2013454

holy autism batman

>> No.2013467

>>2013327
How? She complains about them getting superchats but supposedly doesn't want sales. She says she doesn't want unneeded attention and does exactly what's going to do the opposite.
I don't want to hurt my face but let me step on this rake.

>> No.2013485

>>2013454
He's been doing this shit for two months now on both boards, I'm not even sure why he tries so hard

>> No.2013540

Lmao someone is reposting my insights on /jp/. I might actually buy a pass, so I can tell him to stop plagiarizing me. Fucking rangeban.

>> No.2013760

>>2013327
>an author who leeched off Sunrise's IP is complaining about someone supposedly leeching off from her
If you can't find what's wrong with this, there is no hope for you.

>> No.2013812

>>2013485
>two months
Make it at least since early summer when he made up the shit about Akira being Marine's sister just to see newfags repeating his bullshit.

>> No.2013866

>>2013327
>the artist didn't really do anything wrong
Artist didn't create nor owns the characters Amuro or Char.
Artist didn't create nor owns the Gundam franchise.
The artist is complaining about someone profiting from anothers work when they're profiting off a preexisting franchise
When you buy a physical product like a book, you own it and can do whatever you want so long as you don't upload the work in it's entirety

I could buy all Harry Potter books and piss them, I can also talk about or quote scenes from the book
If it's wrong to read a passage from someone else's work while making money, then schools/lectures/and reviewers are also morally in the wrong as well.

>there is cultural difference
Difference in culture doesn't imply they're automatically morally correct , there are cultures that literally mutilate themselves and engage in cannibalism
Ultimately this artist has no logical or rational basis for their anger, someone bought their work and talked about it, that's it.

>> No.2013887

>>2013812
That's not the same person or if it is he really changed tactics since then

>> No.2013992

>>2013887
At least he was gloating to have started back in August for the same reason, and back then he was doing it with other stuff about Marine like her pretending that she was into her hobbies and there not being anything about them on NND and the likes of it. He has just been adding new bullshit to his posting.

>> No.2014102

>>2013992
>only one person hates Marine.

>> No.2014134

>>2014102
Yep, it's the guy

>> No.2014149

>>2014102
this, but unironically

>> No.2014177

>>2014134
I write in a very unique style (desu, it is very shit), you are honestly retarded if you can't tell that Marine has multiple antis.

>> No.2015453

>>2014177
All in my head, by the way.

>> No.2017407

>>2009331
im surprised there isn't much ass worship for senchou

>> No.2017504

>>2017407
Japs are allergic to ass.

>> No.2017593

>>2017407
I love all parts of Senchou equally, but there are some parts I want to love more equally than others.

>> No.2017608

>>2017504
I am a huge tit fag but want senchou to sit on my face 24/7

>> No.2017807

>>2010270
Her watchalongs have been pretty good, but yeah come to think of it she really doesn't do much mengen in the first place and recent happenings can't be great for her. Hopefully this thing blows over soon

>> No.2017832

>>2012298
Me too brother

>> No.2017920
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>>2012065
Who gets gratification from that?

>> No.2018165

>>2017920
People with an iron deficiency. Or schizos that think they're vampires.

>> No.2018194

>>2018165
or people that like senchou alot

>> No.2018230

>>2018194
no person can like senchou that much..right??

>> No.2018422
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2018422

>>2013866
>She did nothing wrong actually
>No, if someone was offended, than she clearly did
What the twisted Japanese logic is it?

>> No.2018434

>>2018230
not gonna make it

>> No.2018838

https://youtu.be/N4i8zePp5Zc
Have some old videos in this trying time

>> No.2020538

>>2018422
>1 like vs 5 likes
Why are there so many more autists

>> No.2020603

>>2018422
You mean anti, not japanese. I hope the japanese aren't that stupid.

>> No.2020666

>>2020603
Most of the people doing this are Japanese normies, man. They are being herded by the actual antis like attack dogs, same deal with the janitors incident

>> No.2021529

>>2020538
>>2020666
that reminds me of this shit with Fubuki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMaRvRO5_eU
Sort by top comments and you literally have an anti thread in her comment section

>> No.2023370

>>2008918
It's basically this
>>2010753
The whole thing is retarded, I can't believe the day would come when EOPs are actually better than nips

>> No.2023399
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I LOVE THIS PIRATE

>> No.2023410

>>2023399
Nice

>> No.2023516

>>2004792
>Also it's a woman.
So what?

>> No.2023733

>>2007135
Graduate from life
Get another cat lmao

>> No.2023807

>>2018422
Sounds exactly like an argument your typical SJW would make. It's certainly not unique to the Japanese.

>> No.2023845

35P here, stay strong Ichimi, I hope Marine is feeling better now and will stream today. We know this drama is extremely retarded, but it's better just to let this die down on its own

>> No.2024197

QRD:
So you're a Migopi or an Ichimi/Overseas Sexy Boy or even both (an 135P), and you see someone Japanese wrong on Twitter. How should you react?

Miko herself wants this to die down, so the best approach is to stay on your own timeline where you can get info on her streams, or her timeline and don't look into the replies. Best approach is not to play.

Skip this step if you are an adult:
You are angry because in your country, this would be seen as a triviality or even good advertisement, also the Japanese are eating up rrats like cornflakes and nobody has the original video anymore to "fact check":
>>2011641 # say nothing, refer them to this image. It corrects EVERY SINGLE RRAT going around in good Japanese. For bonus points, also link the V's apologies. Yesterday in GTAV chat spammers were asking for an apology, they at that point already got one on Twitter and ANOTHER ONE after the game.

You have done your deed, you got it out of your system or decided to be Zen about it. Leave a positive message for Miko under her next tweet or somewhere, those helped her a lot yesterday in keeping it together. Make sure you saw the original video to see it really was fucking nothing, the author didn't want this, this is 100% Antis and professional shitposters and nobody should have to fucking care.

Looking forward to Mikkorone today, that's always kino and will do good for Miko.

>> No.2024245

>>2023845
Thanks buddy, I wish the same for Miko too. Looking forward to seeing her collab with korone tonight. God speed.

>> No.2025148

Damn. I really didn't want to believe it but Senchou truly is a fujoshi, with all the bads that comes with it.

>> No.2025159

>>2025148
Oh look who woke up

>> No.2025177

>>2025159
>Literally first time posting in a senchou thread.
Just posting this to point out that whatever narrative you have in your head, you are dumb and wrong :)

>> No.2025251

>>2013327
>there is cultural difference
Fuck off with that gaslighting bullshit.

>> No.2025260

>>2020666
I guarantee you Japanese normies are absolutely not spending their time on twitter vtuber drama.

>> No.2025282

Up to 6.6千 dislikes now, nearly the same as the zhangs and Coco. This is not just going to be forgotten about.
The best part of all this is that the rest of Hololive marches on, while karma hits Marine and Miko hard.

>> No.2025330

>>2025282
Same time every day eh?

>> No.2025346

>>2025260
Relative normies, I'm talking about people who spend some time on twitter but don't follow vtubers or know much about them other than as a niche hobby. Not total normies

>> No.2025355
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>>2025148
I've been reading this thread and I have to wonder why suddenly senchou shlicking to boys love from time to time now suddenly is a bad thing?
NOBODY could have forseen the shitstorm this caused, not even the pissed author herself. If anything, this shines a bad light on rabid Fujos. Senchou herself had a phase where she said she's done with that fandom, not for no reason I reckon. Then she got teased for it forever and (you are here).

Still don't see how it's her fault. I also like Yuri because more tits = more good. I like how she also appreciates that.

She's still a stellar person and a good talker, very fun to watch and makes an effort to involve the rest of her idol company, in stark contrast to what we see IRL with Idols competing relentlessly leading to bitchfights and whatnot. Sick of that shit.

Senchou did literally nothing wrong. Miko did nothing wrong. This is Twitter monkeys, literally female coombrains and some whiteknights, sperging out. It's not a big deal. Nothing legally wrong was done. Cover should completely ignore it and they were so graceful to prepare the apology and post it on the two girls' accounts.

tl;dr: let's talk about Senchous marvellous ass already or her magnificient WOMB holy shit. Luv my pirate cosplay chuuni, simple as.

>> No.2025394

>>2025355
>senchou shlicking to boys love from time to time now suddenly is a bad thing?
We have a persistent autist from vyt who has a hate boner for everything reddit and likes to come over here to shit up the threads from around this time to about twelve hours later, don't pay him too much attention

>> No.2025418

>>2025355
Right, here you go.
https://youtu.be/6w6mRjLCd_o

>> No.2025437

>>2003627
>> and its not illegal to publically have opinions on random shit or else social media wouldnt exist
And every review site wouldn't be able to make money.

>> No.2025448

>>2025355
It's our local schizo-kun, you'll start to miss him once he's gone.

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>>2025418
much appreciated.

>> No.2025463

>BL
Do Marineniggers really

>> No.2025475
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>>2025448
>>2025394
they immediately found the tourist 35P, you guys are astonishing

>> No.2025482

>>2025355
>marvellous ass
A flabby ass, covered in cellulite is not marvellous.

>> No.2025523
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>>2025482
let me tell you what, you little shit.
that ass saved my oshi from danger when it completely absorbed her falling off stairs once, for that fact alone it's glorious. Furthermore, her IRL looks matter not much because we're in the realm of 2D here. Meaning, her butt being sizeable translates into a hot, thicc behind anyone but the Irish can appreciate, even Lolicons like a good, plump rump most of the time.

So here you are, your irrelevant comment in hands, maybe rebutting but ultimately realizing "fuck, he's right."

>> No.2025566

>>2025523
Heh, good effort, but he's been doing this for months now. Just post around him

>> No.2025586

>>2025523
But the character herself is unathletic and ass quality correlates strongly with athleticism, look at female athletes for an example of this. Even if you are strictly in the realm of 2D Marine's ass is disgusting.

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>>2025566
Effort? I unironically enjoy Marin talking about her plump rump and couldn't care less how she looks in 3D.

>> No.2025621
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>>2025475
It's the power of combined horny

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>>2025586
>something I never have to see or deal with is disgusting and this tarnishes my life experience so it also has to tarnish yours
learn to enjoy things, baitposter-kun

>> No.2025628
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2025628

>>2025602
I. Like the cut of your jib

>> No.2025635

When is Marine going to get her drawing collab with Ina?

>> No.2025660

>>2025635
Ina will expose Marine for being a shitty artist.

>> No.2025671

>>2025635
After management approves it, like all other cross branch collabs.
Also u assume scheduling is an issue as well what with them living on opposite ends of the world

>> No.2025748

Marine only talks about her ass because she is jealous of the camwhores tits. Imagine being jealous of a literal camwhore, absolutely pathetic. Both of them should hang themselves. Fucking whores.

>> No.2025854

>>2025482
Proof? And even if that were true I'd still stick my dick and wrap it with her loose ass.

>> No.2026463

>>2025854
See >>2025586

>> No.2028688

>>2025482
genes triumph all
she could have no cellulite

>> No.2029277

>>2025523
imagine being that staircase

>> No.2029428
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>>2029277
depending on where that staircase's nose is it would be a harsh life.
if it could change it would be a quick "sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff" instead of one big whiff

>> No.2035635

Still no tweet since the apology. If anything happens I'm burning down Cover's offices and going on a killing spree in Ikebukuro

>> No.2035644

>>2002968
Is the Whore pregnant yet?

>> No.2037114

Some of you people are really bored posting the same copypasta and talking points over and over again

>> No.2037568

Should I be worried about her bros?

>> No.2037707

>>2037568
No, the absolute worst case scenario is her getting a short vacation, it'll be fine

>> No.2037851

>>2037568
What he said >>2037707
Say what you want about cover but they've never forced someone to graduate outside of holoCN, and this is not like holoCN

>> No.2038119

the end is near my sexy friends

>> No.2038211

>>2038119
I wish Marine's (rear) end was near (my face)

>> No.2038504

>>2037114
We have a persistent schizo who hangs around this thread who's been doing this shit for months now, pay him no mind

>> No.2038749

>senchou bowed the knee to fujos
Can't be forgiven.

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Senchou...

>> No.2039138

>>2037707
>short vacation
that's the problem, she wants to stream.

>> No.2039222

>>2038880
Has anyone done a "do it for her" shop yet? Otherwise I think I'll have to start learning image editing and do it myself

>> No.2039242

>>2039138
She'll be fine, this isn't her first time dealing with antis. She knows what to do.
I just hope she doesn't beat herself up too much. That weekend was an absolute blast and would've been the high point of the month if it weren't for this whole mess.

>> No.2039265

>>2039222
I'm pretty sure there's an online generator for that template if you Google it, don't even need image editing skills.

>> No.2039274

>>2039242
No matter how much faggots try to shit up those streams, they are still the high point for me.

>> No.2039319

>>2039265
>>2039222
Yeah, found it. www.doitforhergenerator.com

>> No.2039349

>>2039138
She was running herself into the ground at this rate anyway, I'd hate if it has to be like this but as long as Cover supports her both on the inside and outside I think a short break wouldn't be a bad thing overall

>> No.2039540

>>2003525
>Not making any money from it
1: "someone" fucking bought the physical copy of that garbage to put it into fridge
2: Getting alot of free exposure = bad
I wish it was legally enforced for artists to have managers/tard wranglers assigned to them so they would have someone with a brain to do the speaking for them.

>> No.2039726

>>2039540
Don't be too hard on her, she was sent a clip that made it seem like miko was laughing at her work on stream and had a little vent which the nijiniggers pounced on. Honestly she's pretty much a victim in this whole affair too.

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>>2039242
But it seems every high point is always followed by a cliff-drop
That alone is super effective way to condition people to not seek the high points anymore.
(Narcissism gaslighting 101, used in torture-psychology too)

>>2039349
>running herself into the ground
Mane-chan is running her to the ground with all the endless merchandise meetings, she doesn't even have time to book the 3D stream to announce the merch for fuck sake.

>Cover supports her
"if" cover supports her, that's what I want confirmation on
(knowing their track record...well...)

If she wants to take a break on her own volition, no problem with that
Would be great actually is she went to see her sister..

>> No.2039775

>>2039726
So much of a victim that she decided to hide instead of making a public statement correcting her previous tweets.

>> No.2039814

>>2039739
>she doesn't even have time to book the 3D stream to announce the merch for fuck sake.
At this rate, she will be commemorating 1.5 million subs instead of 1 million.

>> No.2039859

>>2039726
>Send takedown notice to Cover legals
>clip gets cut out in 10 minutes
>probably small monetary compensation for using her works without permission
>problem solved, no drama

was it that hard, one letter and a phonecall

nah, lets sperg out on twitter

>> No.2039882

>>2039859
>takedown notice
>small monetary compensation for using her works without permission
So how much does Sunrise get out of this?

>> No.2039991 [DELETED] 

>>2039882
>probably
no snipping

and well, she(?) asked portions of the superchats, which was estimated to be around 3$(based on screen time)
I'm sure someone would pay her 100$ just to fuck off...

>> No.2040029

>>2024197
>>2024245
>Mikkorone
It was cancelled

>> No.2040052

>>2040029
I know

>> No.2040068

ANTI HATE

>> No.2040241

>>2039814
that's like 3 months away, and the Daki design is already visibly dusty
Announcing too much stuff in one go will hurt sales(because that daki will be e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e)

>> No.2040496

>>2040241
>too much stuff in one go
The last time she had any merch on sale was for her birthday.

>> No.2041049

>>2039726
Marine screwed up. End of story.

>> No.2041086

>>2041049
Fuck off nipcuck, faggots who illegally make doujins called Amuro Rape deserve to have their feelings hurt

>> No.2041225

>>2041049
Suck a dick chink

>> No.2041286

>>2041049
You're that bored, aren't you?

>> No.2041648

Marine love

>> No.2041927

Miko and Senchou were so excited for this collab...

No updates from senchou yet, but many from Miko


she must be very upset

>> No.2041930

>>2041086
>>2041225
>>2041286
You people just need to let it go, no one is perfect, people make mistakes. Marine made a mistake and now she knows. Move on with your pathetic life.

>> No.2041935

>>2040496
>Daki cover(Ai-mama won't let this one go cheap)
>Acrylic-something(as usual)
>Tapestry
>~200-400$ figurine(yea that anchor one)

that totals about....500-700$?

tough ask for limited time sale, not gonna lie

>> No.2041953

>>2041930
>chink preaching about letting go
fuck off

>> No.2041967

>>2041930
The only mistake is your birth

>> No.2041996

Guys we won

This will drive Marine to like sexy oversea guys even more!

>> No.2042416
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>Yes, I'd rather pander to a bunch of antis and go silent than 1,2 million of my fans who'd gladly eat my shit if told to. How could you tell?

>> No.2042581

>>2042416
>t.manager

>> No.2042673

>>2041930
The only mistake Marine made was expect the best of people as she usually does and her apology shows that she knows it.

>> No.2042889

>>2041935
And all of those could have been released over time but this way all of them will end up being sold at the same time.

>> No.2043038

>>2042581
Pretty much this. Her manager is most likely the one who told her to lay low.

>> No.2043427

>>2043038
No, japs are actually this autistic

>> No.2044391

>>2043427
mind you, she already quit from one black company, so not in the same league as your average wageslave sheep

>> No.2045099

miko didnt stop streaming, marine only stopped because she wanted to. Is she perhaps ashamed of being a fujoshit like those retards from twitter?

>> No.2047097

>>2010862
Absolutely

>> No.2047135

https://streamable.com/k633nd
https://streamable.com/epitor

>> No.2047179

>>2041930
The only mistake made was them apologizing.

>> No.2047502

>>2041930
Your next line is she's a failed Ikue Otani wannabe and is 75kg (up 10kg from the last schizo fit you through)

>> No.2047533

She's actually going to graduate isn't she?

>> No.2047595

>>2041930
Please take your meds, schizo

>> No.2047607

Marine graduation soon.
Miko is suspended until tomorrow.

>> No.2047610

>>2047533
I'm going to graduate your ass.

>> No.2047740

>>2047610
They’re joining Vshojo

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>>2047533
we haven't decided on a date for the wedding yet so no
I'll NEVER take my meds

>> No.2049006

>>2038880
Thinking of her

>> No.2050169

>>2013327
(You)

>> No.2050425

>>2013327
>there is cultural difference
There's nothing more cringe than a burger pretending to know things about other cultures

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>>2003165
>>2003525
this actually made me seeth with rage. Why are japs so autistic?

>> No.2050991

>>2010862
yes

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>>2010862
>>2050991
but i'll add i wouldn't use that case because the airflow must be horrible desu

>> No.2051473

>>2025394
So you're pro-reddit? Kill yourself lmao

>> No.2054229

>>2050547
Just as a reminder nip antis are far more autistic and have done far more damage than the chinks.

>> No.2054306

>>2054229
Chinks only managed to destroy their own brand. They are some of the most useless antis I've ever seen.
I still won't forgive them for making Coco cry.

>> No.2054878

This whole situation has actually left me furious. I lived in Japan for 3 years so I know very well the shittier aspects of their culture (though overall I am an unapologetic Japanophile who will always talk good about Japan if possible) and me and LITERALLY every other foreigner I knew always got put off by a couple of things present in this controversy.
1. Japanese apologies. It is apology for the sake of apology. They are formal, meaningless, fake, there is always a celebrity or a company apologizing and doing dogeza for some stupid shit
2, Japanese hivemind/holier than thou mentality. Japanese like to all act and think the same, they follow the consensus. Additionally, Japanese like to present themselves as virtuous in all situations.
And that are the exact two traits that I am seeing in people regarding this controversy. I would even add a third\
3. Japanese defending literally any fucking stupid thing they do with "You just don't understand our culture.... There are cultural differences..."
Which will drive any foreigner insane at one point or another.

So yeah I am triggered as fuck right now. Come on Japan, you are embarrassing yourself again...

>> No.2055477

>>2054878
Yeah this whole thing is retarded, and yet another reason why twitter is cancer

>> No.2057184
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Senchou LOVE!

>> No.2057253

>>2054878
why did you post the same thing in the miko thread?

>> No.2057276

>>2057184
Golly do I love her.

>> No.2057318

>>2057253
Not that Anon but it's quite obvious that not every 35P lurks these threads.

>> No.2057869

>>2057318
Exactly it was just my unfiltered opinion I wanted everybody to see because I was venting. Ignore it if you see fit. Both Marine and Miko are involved in this unfortunately, and they both happen to be some of my favorites, probably my current favorite hololives overall.

>> No.2058011

>>2057869
I'm on the same boat. Really happy to watch both of my favorites together only for a bunch of retards to shit on their fun and ruin the whole thing for them.

>> No.2058417

>>2058011
Yeah, me too. It was the best collab in recent memory and then a bunch of nipniggers has to ruin it for everyone

>> No.2061492

What's the bump limit of /vt/?

>> No.2061536

>>2061492
310 if I'm not mistaken

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