How does Hololive keep getting Kino Fan projects?

[Anonymous No.]

I mean seriously, they have dedicated and talented fans out there.

Here's the source:
https://twitter.com/mazumaro/status/1502186404075675651?t=E5WQzrfY54SzZdTt7eynsw&s=19

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>>20018046
This effect probably has a proper name but I don't know what it is. I'll try to explain it though:
- A Holo has 20k viewers on average. If you make a fanwork of her, the vast majority of that 20k audience will be interested in it.
- 10 Niji talents have 2k viewers on average. The audience numbers add up to the same 20k total, BUT if you make a fanwork of any one of them, chances are only their individual audience of 2k will be interested. So you're dividing your audience by 10 for no particular gain.
So if I'm an artist and want to make a big, splashy fan project that gets noticed, I'm way better off picking out my favorite Holo rather than trying to do another chuuba, due to audience consolidation.

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>>20018297
Sounds spot on. Thanks for the explanation.

>I appreciate the sexy Flare image too

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>>20018046
People always go for the bigger fish. Hololive and artists' relationship goes both ways. By making art, animations, and etc. for Hololive gives artists recognition and fame. The same goes for Hololive. They both get something in return. A good example would be the clipper ecosystem of Hololive. People would be interested in their clips while Hololive member in question gets more popularity and eyes on them.

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>>20018487
Have another one on the house.

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>>20018297
A good explanation, thanks.

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>>20018046
cringe animation

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>>20018046
Good animation but I can't stand the chuuni "what if (thing) but edgy!!!?" trope.
Most of it is just made up shit and not even in-character.
But it's fanart so whatever.

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>>20018897
>>20019019
Niji cope

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>>20019019
Why are nijifags like this? Just say you’re angry about your chuubas being mid and animators don’t bother kek

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>>20018801

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>>20019139
>>20019421
I'm holobrony and hate nijikeks.
I just don't like forced chuuni shit.
For example with someone like Haachama it would be justified and in-character but with holo myth it's just so forced and cringe.
Le ebil ina priestess!!!!

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>>20019969
>I'm a holobrony

Imagine being that fucking obvious you sad Nijishitter pajeet, that's your go-to buzzword.

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>>20019969
It's literally their lore, nigger. This is like being mad because Flare is an archer in Alternative

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I don't think it was a great idea to make Gura fight in close combat, at least not with martial arts moves like that. Do they teach shark-fu in Atlantis? Then again he made Gura absorb her trident so he'd have to go the Bruce Lee route or turn her into a water-bender of sorts.

[Anonymous No.]

The Hololive Tapes
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhgyf4VEO0tcHm_momJm06N-rdyyRGipd

[Anonymous No.]

Niji gets similar stuff too.
Shitposting aside I'm always pretty amazed people do this for free. Its probably good advertisement and stuff to put on their portfolio though.

https://twitter.com/yo_sh_no/status/1475776539547811842

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>>20020428
>Niji gets similar stuff too.
Yeah but way less often and the average quality is also way lower

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>>20020497
>source: my ass
nijisanji objectively gets better doujins too.

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>>20019969
> someone like Haachama it would be justified and in-character
Fuck off fag, you're not a haaton

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>>20018046
A quality product begets quality fans, sorry Niji bros that's just how it is.

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>>20020525
>objectively

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>>20018046
>Grim reaper and immortal warrior phoenix weaker than random shark girl
Bullshit favoritism. Dropped this garbage the moment "gawr" showed up.

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>>20020673
some facts in life are objectively true.
mito loli > shion

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>>20020525
Link me something with a production value as high as any of Alice Magic's video or those Mazumaro stuff then.
The video you linked had multiple bad shots with a big case of deviant art tier faces

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>>20020696
Okay anon, you didn't have to bait that hard

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>>20018897
>>20019019
>>20019969
Talentless Nijiniggercope

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>>20020701
i've seen better but
>twitter searching
hate this garbage. why do nips put up with this garbage website and refuse to just upload it to pixiv too.

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>>20019969
its good because it ironically presents them in a badass way while in reality they are goofs and dont care about lore

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>>20020903
That makes it OOC garbage, not better than drawing Gura with massive breasts.

If they wanted to make a good animation they'd have made one of gura having sex with her boyfriend and saying its covid.

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>>20020112
Ina's lore is that she's an inhuman priestess, not that she will end the world.
Gura's lore is that she's a shark, not that she's fucking superman but shark themed.
But anyways that animation clearly goes out of its way to be grim and shit.

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>>20020900
The artist migration to twitter has been the biggest travesty in recent years. Nips were already fucking awful at tagging pixiv art decently, you're lucky if they even use the right fucking art tag on twitter

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>>20020900
We can agree on that at least. Twitter sucks ass for art

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>>20020952
I hate it so much. At least pixiv has a top rating feature if you bother to pay.
Even if they do bother to tag it on twitter, the "top" section doesn't actually sort by most likes.

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>>20020942
it would still make sense because its literally part of the lore. I'm saying you can never imagine them actually behaving the way they are in the animation

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>>20018297
Or it's more like
>popular things are exposed to larger swathes of population, meaning there will likely be more talented people watching and becoming fans, too

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>>20021183
Realistically it's a bit of both. There's definitely a group of pretty talented artists that are trendhoppers

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>>20020948
>Ina has a necronomicon and cthulhu references and imagery all over her character design
>Acting like a priestress possesed by the great ancient one would not act towards that goal
For Gura she's not a literally a shark. Here's the official description "A descendant of the Lost City of Atlantis, who swam to Earth while saying, "It's so boring down there LOLOLOL!"
She's not superman, she's aquaman...

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>>20018297
As a fanartist as well I'd mention this is also determined by chuuba interaction as well. For higher tier artists its probably not as much of an issue, but for mid tier artists certain chuubas are pickier than others when it comes to shilling fanart.
Someone like Enna or Finana will like and retweet everything and often comment on it directly. On the other hand someone like Selen will completely ignore anything that doesn't happen to be recent when she does an art dive and isn't particularly stand out.
On the other hand someone like Nyanners goes out of her way to have a fanart showcase stream where she talks about drawings on a stream, which is another step above.

While minor those type interactions does a lot to help encourage fanart. I don't think I've ever drawn non-lewds of holos though so they've never interacted with me.

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>>20020948
If you watched streams you’d know shes atlantian and the daughter of Neptune you fucking nigger. Super human strength and speed aren’t surprising considering her origin.

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>>20021244
>She's not superman, she's aquaman...
Even worse, she's a weak little girl (adult).

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>>20020530
It would fit Haachama because she's a complete chuuni shizo
https://youtu.be/mRCfFS0SsCk

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>>20021507
It works with both. Saying that it would fit Haachama better than the walking cthulhu reference is still retarded

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>>20018046
>How does Hololive keep getting Kino Fan projects?
The audience reflects the streamer

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>>20021585
What I mean is that Haachama genuinly acts like a chuuni shizo while Ina is just a normal neet personality wise.
Her lore is cthulu tier, yes... but she doesn't act like her lore suggests at all which is why edgy Ina irritates me.

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>>20021678
Anon I don't know if you haven't seen the previous parts but this isn't regular Ina. This is the ancient ones using Ina's body. They said "Your friend is not here". This is why "Ina" acting all edgy works here

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>>20018297
>Hololive thread
>First post mentions Nijisanji
Heh.

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https://twitter.com/mazumaro/status/1502186404075675651

Dude has almost 60K likes on this part of his animation which seems solid for a 100K twitter followers. For comparison Ina seems to get ~100K over time for most of her Hololive pieces.

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>>20022463
60k likes is always good but on the other hand if you compare it to Ina who spent like 10 hours on the drawing. this animation probably took the guy at least a month.

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>>20021314
Yeah for real. I'm a mid tier artist at best, and despite making most of my vtuber fanart about my oshi, never gotten as much as a like. But then i drew a smaller one because she got me interrested, and it was the full package;
Like, RT, Response, and even used as the schedule art.
So tl,dr, take the 2views pills if you want some recognition.

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>>20022463
I hope he uploads the final animation in a official video, is really hard to compare the numbers when everyone takes the animation from him to add sound effects

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>>20021678
I'm filled with glee at the thought of this anon not being able to enjoy things. Please keep being miserable

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>>20022645
The 2views are always great with fanart recognition, but for me its hard to stay interested in them for long. They're always so unprofessional even the smaller corpo ones. Some people might like that but there's just too many that start going down annoying paths and get encouraged to do it.
Miori from Tsunderia is a good example, she has some good aspects but she's a complete bitch and acts like a whore 90% of the time, and not in the fun way.

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>>20022645
Same, it depends on the chuuba. Korone liked most of my fanart of her. And Haachama and Coco even featured my art on their livestreams.
Feelsgoodman.

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>>20022790
Nah I'm good. Just finished my workout so I'm getting some fresh endorphins at the moment.

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>>20022645
2views are good if you want personal recognition, but bad if you're trying to leech to boost your overall views

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>>20019969
It would be cringe if it was just a low effort fanfic some anon wrote in a thread.
Because it's a high effort animation, it's no longer cringy because it's an expression of actual artistic skill and not some dweeb trying to get attention online.
Mori IS a reaper, Kiara IS a Phoenix, Ame IS a timetraveler. This isn't any more cringe than any other piece of fanart of them
You're an npc who just repeats "it's cringe" because someone told you that's the cool opinion to have. This is no more cringe than any other fanart, or than vtubers as a whole.

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>>20020285
>Do they teach shark-fu in Atlantis?
Sure? Yeah let's say they do

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>>20024094
To be fair ame isn't a time traveler

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>>20022463
Makes sense, the holomyth fight has been in production for ages and it's probably the most hyped fan project holoEN has

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>>20018046
I could never invest my time like this on a fanwork. It may get (you)s I could never like something enough to dump 50 million hours to make something I don't own every aspect of. I don't care enough about meme streamers to make a cool animation when I could have used that time to make my own project. But nobody would give two shits about my own shit, that's just the way it works.
>>20018297
>first post completely unprompted dumps on nijisaniji.
Rent fucking free. You fags act like you're too good Niji and that they're beneath you, yet they live on in your head constantly.

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>>20025123
That's why you make fanart, get a big fanbase of your own and then post your own shit.
The bad thing is that your views and reach will probably drop off by 90% because it's OC instead of fanart.
Gaining followers through fanart is a double edged sword unfortunately...

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>>20023507
>that zygomatic projection
oh no no no luknight sisters...

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>>20021244
Cthulhu is a bitch ass motherfucker in lovecraft lore though. He also doesn't have random ass magic... no one that comes to mind does, for that matter. Ina is 100% artistic liberties.