/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Previous: >>19936291

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

2x Map: https://files.catbox.moe/7l45om.png (embed)
EX Map: https://files.catbox.moe/2v0vvs.png (embed)

>!!! THIS FILE MAY REQUIRE 5.5GB RAM TO OPEN UNCOMPRESSED!!!
>The map size is 54,000 x 27,000 pixels
>It is highly advised to "Right-click > Save target as" this image
>It is the largest filesize catbox will allow (186MB download, 195MB on disk)
>This map is to facilitate hamlet/village/town/city/etc. placement

CURRENT GOAL:

>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs

CLIMATE POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/zo5ke

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE PROMPTS
https://rentry.org/7nt3b

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Goals for this thread:
>Decide the nature of chuubanite as a battery or as a fuel source.

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated lore in OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Wait a minute
If this world is around earth sized and /risu/ is as wide as Japan
That means /uoh/ is a giga Everest as wide as Texas!

[Anonymous No.]

Saw that people were asking about the poles last thread, looks like people might have missed the post I made in >>19940847 showing them. To answer them:

- To >>19955122, climateanon assumed equirectangular, so top and bottom are the poles. Obviously that can't work with the map as is, but here we are.
- To >>19957729: see >>19940847, or you can just download G.Projector like I did and do it yourself.

Does anyone know what >>19966507 assumed was the original map's projection? It looks like they've put a full 30 degrees unmapped at the poles -- if we do that we'll have to redo the climate analysis.

[Anonymous No.]

Reposting prompts for visibility

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear on the daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship their dieties? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968497
I always imagine /uoh/ screaming or yodeling on the mountain tops like "UOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH"
Imagine if that could just be heard for miles around the mountains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968523
While I'm here, heightmap centred on the poles.

Actually, does anyone have any suggestions for what to use instead of G.Projector to generate large maps? I'm having problems getting 6000px wide images out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968497
Could make a doujin about the /uoh/ resort if I didn't live in Texas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968523
I'm /3/fag working on the ball! I assumed it was a mercator (cylindrical) projection clipped at the top and bottom. The reason for that is that as you can see if you simply project the current map as equirectangular with no adjustments, the parts of the maps at the pole get aphysically distorted. I think there's probably a compromise where the polar parts of the map but the changes to the climate map are not too significant.

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19968625
Its their battle cry. They yodel it to eachother to signal the start of a raid. they then charge down the mountainside in search of cunny

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968715
>the polar parts of the map are not too distorted*

[Anonymous No.]

Next time don't forget about the anchor post, wait for it before posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968496
>>19968523
>>19968699
>>19968715
My proposal for Poles
South Pole: Frozen ocean
North Pole: Try to connect the northern continent from the rest of the map it was made from

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968523
>>19968699
>>19968715
>>19968833
Ah, this reminds me we still need to update Hoshiyomia-Republic-/uuu/ borders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968699
>>19968715
Im sorry to mention this but, you used to wrong map in the OP. yours is missing kfp mountains and the infinity island. Its still incredibly cool, so thanks for your work.

[Anonymous No.]

So now we have to deal with the diplomatic incident of people interfering in treaties they are not apart of.
>>19966044
>>19966903

>>19968497
The world is much smaller than that based on this map >>19968833

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968716
But why would they raid for cunny when they already an entire country with a stable population growth of new cunnies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968899
No worries, just swapping a texture in and out takes me a second, I haven't gotten a solid response on the "One true Canon elevation map", seems like they're all missing something or other. I'll wait on that before I start posting.
>>19968833
This seems like the general consensus that was going around in the previous thread, so I guess we just gotta figure out what exactly the land under the North Pole ice shelf looks like. I had something like pic rel in mind, obviously not set in stone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968496
Priority: Calculate the actual size of the world and its regions based on the dimension provided in >>19968833

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969085
Im okay with that
Adding a mysterious new continent at the pole would be pointless since it'll be offmap and cant be interacted with

[Anonymous No.]

Reposting the debate topic to gather more inputs >>19943880
Current Proposals on the floor:
>/infinity/ is allowed drop their isolationist policy in their lore
brought up so /infinity/ can have more interactions with everyone

>/infinity/ is allowed to have a canal
brought up so /infinity/ can have more interactions with everyone, implications being the tech gap.

>/infinity/ island is officially definitively, in the East. No matter what lore change they do.
Brought up since some people believe they are in the East because of their isolation policy (being dropped), and there isn't a hard evidence that everyone agreed they are in the East. So if there's actually good arguments to not give them the East, let's hear them now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969220
No, fuck off. Now it's time for another discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969220
Fuck off with this timeloop

[Anonymous No.]

Who knew that /nasa/'s solution was staring at them this whole time? /nasa/ just needs enough cold to liquify oxygen. Now the question is how do we process chuubanite into a heat sucking material?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969181
Yeah, seems like most of the "game" would be actualized through the map, so off-map stuff should probs not be too important or central.

[Anonymous No.]

/Risu rep. Here is my idea of what /risu/ is like
>Food- Nuts being the main food. It is also used for many other things such as alchemy. The magical forest provides us with an ample supply and any trees we chop down get replanted as risu is one with nature.
>Religion- Our religion is dominant throughout the land. We all worship the magical squirrel. Every november we give all our nuts to her as she personally comes to every village and settlement and collects them from us. This effectively resets the economy and ensures she is always in control. Any other religion is considered unacceptable and outsiders must be mindful and respect our ways.
>Entertainment- Risuners are very horny and fuck like rabbits. We also spend much of our time tending to our nuts while dreaming of the month of november when we will finally be able to give the squirrel our nuts.
>Clothing- Im still working on this one so will update when i have something
Also /risu/ and /inf/ are effectively starting over and im negotiating with some of their reps. I did state there will be no canal due to deforestation issues and risu holds their magical forest to extreme high regard considering the nuts they grow to be our food/currency/alchemy ingredients. Trade is very common

[Anonymous No.]

is it okay to incorporate /uoh/ into anya-petra military? lore-wise I think some of them are willing to be some sort of vangarian guard for the two cunny diarchy, or is it to far-fetched considering the distance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969085
I'll leave the pole mapping to you then. Hopefully we can fix up the climates and currents after that.

>>19969116
The map in >>19968833 is 4 km per pixel. Map in OP is 3000 pixels wide, so keeping the same scale gives a circumference of 12000 km (probably a bit bigger since the continent is some way north of the equator). Climateanon assumed same scale as Earth, which is what I prefer personally, but I don't know how realistic the heightmap is in that case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969297
>>19969346
>Let's move on so we can say "people agreed by not saying anything"/"Silence is not consent" again
Compiling everyone's greivances and having them addressed is all that I want to do, so we don't have a repeat of the ending of last thread.
Thank you for understanding.

If we can't have that, then maybe we do need to start tripfagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969630
>If we can't have that, then maybe we do need to start tripfagging.
Do that instead so we know who's behind all the whining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969540
>>19968496
Don't forget to add to reply to the anchor

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969540
>>19968496
Don't forget to anchor it, I'll do it for you this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969731
>>19969735
anchormind...

[Anonymous No.]

/Risu/ rep again. I want to say this as well that our land is dominantly forest. We would have beaches and other areas which i will work on once the map gets finalized but we have many trees. As I stated before its a magic forest and we hold it dear to us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969735
>>19969789
ah my apologies. Ill make sure to do so from now on. Ill be having some food now but when i get back ill drop a few more details. Good luck finalizing the map.

[Anonymous No.]

There is an issue I'd like to address: Indifferent threads not-involved with the project giving the greenlight to do whatever we want with their share of the world.
It doesnt feel right. Sure they just wanna watch chuubas but it feels empty

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969943
We need to deal with the current issues before we move to that, having the rules and setting already defined is key to invinting them properly, once that's done we ought to sent a new round of invites, and guidelines for it should be established so that the "scramble for africa" doesn't happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969630
Or better yet, don't restart old time loops given the last time someone tried to do, we lost our GM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969943
I agree. I have regained some respect in /infinity/ I've lost through the canal/protectorate issue seeing how they are handling the /risu/ thing now back at their thread, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970139
While neutralfag is a loss I do agree that some of his decisions are a bit weird
>thread wants a small piece of land
>gets half a continent
>thread wants climate A
>gets sent to the tundra
Oh well no use crying over spilt milk. Lets just make the best we could out of his decisions

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970139
How is compiling the arguments for/against /Infinity/'s changes restarting time loops? The only one is the island position, which I think needs to be re-settled since some people feel /infinity/ dropping their isolationism is foul play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969540
Also is it wrong to think of /risu/ as squirrel people with ears and tails?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970441
Because you're only doing this to get at /infinity/ and we already had them shit up the thread enough today. Drop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970499
Nope. Non-human races are fine if they want it like /rose/

[Anonymous No.]

why do /inf/ needs a canal again? trade route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970499
non-human races are OK as long as they arent somehow magically superhuman I think

[Anonymous No.]

Gotta be careful about bread dogs chasing after /risu/ people. Even dog AI likes chasing squirrels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969220
No canals, you are not allowed to have them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970554
Except I am not, Their rep wakes up in a few hours and I rather /infinity/ and everyone is presented with the feedback in a formal manner that can be addressed as oppose to the people who were just trying to derail discussions the last thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970732
my /thread/ owns half the world and its culture is endless 24/7 orgies with everything from babies to corpses. the race are demigod hyperdemon-angels that gain powers from watching every vtubers all day
technologically we are a Class X civilization with control over the universe every other faction are our pets in petting zoos we kept alive for procreation recreation

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970849
But it still ends in you trying to force your idea.
I fail to see how this is fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970902
What idea do you think I want to force?
I am compiling the list of everyone's opinions.
So far I have:
>the isolationism has a compromise to "explain in lore",
>the canal is a hard no,
> the island is "too late to change it now"
>Side note anons want to flag /infinity/ for the lore drop after using isolationism to justify their tech bump

I can cite each statement as I have in my previous summaries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971134
If everything is settled, why bring it up again unless you have a desire to re-litigate and find ways to punish /infinity/?

[Anonymous No.]

We are having talks with Risu in our thread. We will inform about the resolution of it through Archivebud when he wakes up.

Obviously the Risu representative can also make a proclamation about it when s/he is ready too.

Please, do other things will we sort this out. And, of course, all the other discussion pending about us will also be taken care, but please wait for Archivebud.

Thanks.
t. Gramps from /inf/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971229
>And, of course, all the other discussion pending about us will also be taken care, but please wait for Archivebud.
This. There's no discussion to be had right now, just wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971134
The real issue now is technology, /infinity/ used their supposed isolationism and civil war to protect their advancements, now that they've dropped it they lost one of the reasons to keep it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971211
>Reposting the debate topic to gather more inputs
It has only been ~12 hours
I want as many people with legit well formed arguments as possible so the compilation can't be dismissed as "didn't see"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971339
just wait for now. baby steps, after the risu/kronie talks then you can talk about tech and stuff. what's there to talk if /inf/ rep not here right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971339
We promise we will talk about it in our thread, I'll personally will bring it up to Archivebud in there.

t. Gramps from /inf/

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19969220
>/infinity/ is allowed drop their isolationist policy in their lore
I'm ok with this happening eventually, but only after the splits around /infinity/ are developed enough for such interactions to be more than one sided, and they need to write reasoning for them to come out of their shell. Forcing /infinity/ to sit in the corner forever is retarded, and having /INF/ interact with less splits around them could make for fun and dynamic interactions.

"But there'll be a power imbalance"
Yes, that's the point. Stagnant worlds are fucking boring, and a world in which everyone is equally powerful is stagnant.

>/infinity/ is allowed to have a canal
I'd rather they not. Making a canal that big seems too far ahead of our time.

>/infinity/ island is officially definitively, in the East. No matter what lore change they do.
Moving the island would retcon a lot of /KFP/ and /Infinities/ lore, and would put a lot of councils into question. moving it is out of the question.
I still don't know why this is even being humored.

[Anonymous No.]

/risu/ rep just reading up the past threads and making sure there isnt any information i missed (such as anchoring). And im talking to /inf/ as some of you know. Does anyone have a flag made? I know that was something people wanted from everyone if im not mistaken

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971402
That's just code for 'I want people to help me revive this time loop and shit up /vtwbg/'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971589
We made a /risu/ flag back in /infinity/, let me search for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971542
>I still don't know why this is even being humored
It's the lore change. Kronies got a lot of things through citing isolation as part of the justification, such as the tech advancement and the island.

If Kronies are just gonna change the lore after they've gotten their stuff, that seems like the isolation is just "a dupe".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971705
I made that flag (wait for the other anon to post it, I'm not in my PC now) when things were going the "protectorate" way, you can use it if you like it or throw it away if you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971885
>>19971705
nice. lets see what you got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971589
I think it was this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971748
Don't care, moving the island doesn't help anyone and creates more work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971664
I don't understand what evidence you have to suggest I have ill intentions, but let's agree to disagree.
I'll post my compilation tonight and be off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971948
ooh i actually like it. very simple and shows that our culture is literally around nuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972222
We are well verse in horny and nutting in our thread as well, as you have to witness while we were having talks. Glad that you like it, you own it now Risu representative, do what you like with it.

t. Gramps from /inf/

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19971748
Moving the island creates more work, and moves /infinity/ to somewhere they've repeatedly said they don't want to be. Moving them to a location outside the borg square only serves to antagonize /infinity/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972104
>which I think needs to be re-settled since some people feel /infinity/ dropping their isolationism is foul play.
Not to mention every else is against it because it was already settled, and would create a needless timeloop.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop this timeloop, idiots. Don't fall for the nigger trying to bring it up again

[Anonymous No.]

Since we have demi-humans and non-humans now I wonder if there's lore justifying evolution of non-human and hybrid species.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972491 are the natives from /inf/ horny as well? risu tends to be very lewd and horny and considering risu can make nut milk as well (even though the primary interest is the nut itself) I can see a very beautiful.....friendship developing.

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19972690
/Rose/ has gone into a shocking amount of detail into the biology of the rosebud, although nothing in the way of evolution yet to my knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972784
My dude, yall must be insular as fuck to not know Kronies are the horniest fuckers on this board, it's honestly a bit frightening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972784
We are very, very horny. So much the narcotic we produce is milked directly from the breasts of our priestesses

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972789
Does KFP have phoenixes? I thought about an idea where phoenixes burst into flames when they molt, burning off their old feathers for new ones. They don't really die, but that's the myth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972992
>breasts

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972943
kek. i literally only watch risu and reine. I dont know shit about anyone else for the most part. >>19972992
Thats hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973120
Oh, we do share a lot of... culture... Risuer. Check our lore ;)
And welcome to vtwbg~!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973078
Yeah the Kronii Milk is from breasts but currently we've been writing some lore about other products made from bodily fluids

[Anonymous No.]

Why are kronies like this?

[Anonymous No.]

/meat/ here
If /infinity/ have any priestesses that are out of commission please ship them here

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973330
Give them a foot and they take a mile

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973238
>Kronies get their milk from oshis giant tits. >Risuners get to nut inside their oshi every year.
Holy shit we are alike. I sense a beautiful friendship incoming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973340
Sorry, priestess are sacred, even us can have anything with them. But our commodities are "based" on them, so check our list of trade items /meat/ our friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972599
I am aware, which is why I said:
>The only one is the island position....
However it was brought up by a few anons + 1 identified Sakuran, so I think it needs to be on the floor.

>already settled
I've dugged through the archives and could not find this. The last discussion was the Neutralfag fiasco and it was never decided officially post fact.
Here is my results of all evidences and my view on the matter >>19961617
If I missed some please feel free to cite it.

Our goal is to get it recognized so this Island matter is never brought up again. No historic revisionism. I appreciate any help in the matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972789
>shocking amount of detail into the biology of the rosebud
Oh my dear friend, if only you knew the lengths I've been writing to in my time away. Once it's complete, I'm going to drop something massive on this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973463
Not even the 50 years old retired priestesses??

[Anonymous No.]

/nasa/ is horni for Sana all the time. Sadly we'd perish under our own weight if we were to jump straight into Sana's Jupiters. Also an update on our prime directive: /nasa/ is forbidden to breed with natives of alien worlds. So no cute squirrel waifus nor shark waifus. I think Atlantis in /ggg/ are skark people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973663
Yeah and even then, the priestesses wouldn't do much without the Snake Fang

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973663
Sorry, unless our lore changes, no dice /meat/ my friend.

[Anonymous No.]

risu would only breed with the ones that collects sufficient/best nuts. Its survival of the fittest for who is allowed to breed our oshi once a year.

[Anonymous No.]

New mission unlocked: Obtain /risu/ner Nut Milk

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973452
Join us and we'll fill the world with milk exports.
t. Gramps from /inf/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973625
NTA, but the person who originally put it forward designed it be a compromise and not a forced vote like you.
>>19970417
You're oozing of bad faith with this and I'd like to know who you represent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974198
Let archivebud take care of it. Desist, this will become a loop again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974198
I'm the anon who put it forward first and who was given a (You) from the cross-thread reference. I also wrote >>19971181 which is what applies here, I think.

I see this as just a matter of formality. I can see why someone would want for this to be done right so /vtwbg/ can move on and truly say it was "approved by the thread". You saw what a lot of other thread reps were saying, they are defending your position in the East right now.

[Anonymous No.]

Question: is chuubanite able to change the biology of plants and animals?

Context for this question: /yeah/ has a forest called "Bunch of Forests" forest. Underneath this forest are chuubanite deposits that caused some local flora and fauna to mutate and inherit abilities related to chuubas /yeah/ worships. This chuubanite deposit also causes the forest to constantly regrow forest to protect the creatures inside. This is regrowing trait of the forest is exploited by /yeah/, and that allows it to have a large supply of wood it can export.

Is this something chuubanite can do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974532
/risu/ rep here. If chuubanite can do this then this would explain the magic forest we have. Or perhaps small traces of it are in our nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974532
/meat/ here, we use a very similar concept, so i would say yes. we could even say we use the same process if you want i know a few of your chuubas have some /meat/ tendencies, even if your thread doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974198
>Force vote like you
I made my stance clear
>Let's all just vote on it and put it to rest to officially have a record of Eastern Island and end this
If we have an official statement then it cannot be brought up again. Since again, there are others that cried foul, not just the original Western island compromise for the canal.

I am the rep from /rrat/ and the acting historical archivist to prevent historical revisionism in /vtwbg/
Some of my previous compilations:
>>17441139
>>18925120

I am not a bad faith actor, I want events clearly documented. I have brought up the lack of substance for Eastern Island, which gave ground for anons and the Sakuran anon to challenge /infinity/'s placement in my view. So I say we finally bring it to rest and get it documented.


I've cited my review of the evidences in >>19961617

If I have missed more "defacto" evidence then please point it to me kindly. I've asked multiple times and only received criticism in return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974850
this is still going on? i thought we agreed to wait for the tripfag from /inf/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974966
Everyone should just adopt trips so we can avoid these timeloops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974532
The answer is yes, but it takes millions of years. Chuubanite isn't some mystery mutagen that gives you superpowers overnight. The plants that absorb Chuubanite particles evolved to do so over millions of years. Same with the animals that eat the plants that have Chuubanite in them. Same with the animals that eat the animals. Think of Chuubanite's existence as creating an alternate path of evolution. Could explain why we have fire breathing dragons when earth does not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975003
not everyone. maybe one or two representatives have trips, but enforcing trips on 4chan is a terrible idea that will cause a bunch of people to reject this project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974966
I am, which is why I haven't posted the compilation, however people are insisting to stop the discussions on the floor >>19969220
Which is critical to continue for the compilation to have any merit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975095
Letting people anonymously shit on ideas or rig polls is equally bad.

[Anonymous No.]

If tripcodes are enforced, I will stop contributing to the overall lore of the world and stop giving my opinions and ideas

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck no mandatory trips please! We're not a discord server

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975300
You don't even contribute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974850
Since you're the rep from /rrat/ could you let your monks know that /nasa/ sends an offering of bread, sweet buns, and dried fruit and vegetables to /rrat/? And we do have wheat beer if you want some.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975385
You don't know who I am

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975472
Not anyone important.

[Anonymous No.]

YBC anon here, against tripcodes.
The fact we had to assign one to /infinity/ was (like in many other cases when it comes to these people) a special case due to their raging autism.
Let's not play on the assumption that every thread is as neurotic as /infinity/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975166
>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
i can't say anything. i don't know why. what i said was basically that it would disenfranchise people, and cause way more problems that couldn't be avoided by just ignoring nontrips. fuck 4chan's systems, i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975421
Yes saw your post for the gift basket in the thread the other day. Was planning to bring it up later, we just have to time it so the lorefags can see it and comment. The other half kinda thinks we're all faggots. (Which is why /rrat/ lore is vows of silence)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975592
/infinity/ being an autistic neurotic menhera makes my dick hard
t. /rrat/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975618
>Forcing people to put names to their criticisms or ideas disenfranchise them.
Que?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974724
i am well aware of their /meat/ tendencies

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975700
Would you like some wheat beer too? Or do you have a code of temperance? Seeing that your similar to space Aussies I figured you might like beer.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it is time to seriously discuss the removal of /infinity/ as a participant thread from /vtwbg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976002
Hmm, don't think we fleshed out temperance. We were mixed with "various tribes joining the order"/ "Arabic coffee growers"/ and the standard European monks (which are known beer makers).

Definitely have to bring it back to discuss

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973625
>+ 1 identified Sakuran
Dunno why but that remark sounds funny to me lol
In any case, what I was saying wasn't to move the island, its pointless, destructive to lore and troublesome. I didn't even bring it up, you did and I said no for the aforementioned reasons.
What I am asking for, is that /inf/ provides adequately detailed lore on why they decided to not be isolationist overnight, and cause another shitstorm.
This will also be strike two on my personal note of "why /inf/'s actions should be scrutinized", after the first island shitstorm. I'm taking this chance to remind them, these shitstorms are staining your reputation. Again, you may not like it, you may claim innocence and shift blame to schizoposter falseflaggers, but that's the fact. Refer to this as the reason you are "unfairly treated". Again, I have nothing against Kronii or kronies, and I admire your creativity, but your past behaviour and current proposals are forcing my hand.
Now, towards the /inf/ rep when they come back, or other kronies lurkers here currently, you can take this next matter to your thread now or wait until the rose/isolation matter is settled, but I want you to discuss: if (when, refer to >>19245505 about stability) you eventually get out of your internal conflicts, what will your next justification for high-tech-that-deffinitely-won't-be-used-aggressively be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975852
>forcing people to identify themselves on an anonymous image board will disenfranchise people who came to the anonymous image board to be anonymous
you have to be acting in bad faith at this point. doesn't matter. by your own standards, the representatives have already overwhelmingly voted against this "solution" so it shouldn't matter if you continue to ramble for a bit. if someone without a trip has a good point, the representatives with trips can back them. those tripfags will be the ones involved with democracy, though representative democracies aren't always the best system, it is far better than direct democracy, especially when it is forced.

>>19976192
they have a few false flaggers, the rest are reasonable, stop making things worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976312
Forcing people like >>19976192 to tripcode to know who they represent would cut down on false flagging so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974532
>>19974709
>>19975092
I would say it depends on what kind of change we're talking about. We know that chuubanite likes to bind to things, including living organism, and its effect can manifest within one generation in the case of shroom effect (>>19459028). In this case, if the suggested change in biology is based on how the host make use of the additional properties created by chuubanite binding with its molecules, then it will require evolution to do its work and thus take a long time. However, if it is based on the additional properties themselves (as is the case of it binding with psychotropic molecules in shrooms) without requiring the host to adopt to it, then it can manifest rather quickly.

>>19962319
We kind of already do that; see fleshgrafting in https://rentry.org/dbohc for more details.

>adopting tripcode
It's part of the extension on the idea of thread representative, as a way to avoid other impersonating them. /inf/ is kind of a special case in that due to falseflagging around them, we know impersonation is bound to happen without tripcode, so their rep ends up needing one so that we can ignore others claiming to be representing what /inf/ thinks in case disputes happen. I don't think the situation is nearly as bad for other threads for now, so while their reps are welcomed to adopt a tripcode if they wish so, it's nowhere near mandatory for now.

>>19975989
Do you think some of /yeah/ might be part of a secret /meat/ cult because of that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976312
How come they are the only thread with falseflaggers? How come these falseflaggers never pretend to be one of the inactive threads here to either support them in their dellusions to make them look bad, or antagonize them?

I'm sick and tired of pretending it's only a few bad apples. That thread clearly isn't united nor stable enough to have a unified idea, and proof of that is in their latest venture of dropping all pretenses of isolationism in favour of actual trade control.

Let's just cut the issue outright, and have a /vtwbg/ that isn't 90% explaining Kronies why they can't just "do X"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976270
>Now, towards the /inf/ rep when they come back, or other kronies lurkers here currently, you can take this next matter to your thread now or wait until the rose/isolation matter is settled, but I want you to discuss: if (when, refer to >>19245505 about stability) you eventually get out of your internal conflicts, what will your next justification for high-tech-that-deffinitely-won't-be-used-aggressively be?

Gramps from /inf/ here, noted, will bring it up to our threat when Archivebud is with us and work on it. Then Archivebud will bring updates about it to /vtwgb/. Thanks for the patience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976600
Again forcing people like this to tripcode so we know which country is in favor of doing this would be a perfect for actual transparency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976533
>We kind of already do that
yeah, but now there's an even better reason for it to work now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976600
I think the thread is unified in voting aye+lore, nay, nay to move?

[Anonymous No.]

I just identify myself by using pictures of Rosemi. It's not like I'll run out of them and I'm the only /rose/ anon here so it works perfectly for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976744
>>19976600
>>19976499
>>19976192
Is this some sort of advanced samefag to prove a point?
I'm not tripfagging ever. I didn't do it for my thread when we organized the divegrass team, and I won't do it here.

t. YBC

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976750
I kind of assume it's working unless someone from either /meat/ or this thread disagrees with that.

>>19976757
Yes, to clarify just in case,
>dropping isolationism
aye+lore
>canal
nay
>moving /inf/
nay

>>19976837
She's more adorable than any tripcode, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976744
desu, it might be good to identify (you). it looks like you, and the guy you are responding to if not samefagging are the only ones who are continuing this pointless timeloop. no tripcode mandate, stop antagonizing kronies, both(?) of you, shut up already.

[Anonymous No.]

>/nasa/ brings /infinity/ out of isolationism.
What hell did we unleash upon this world?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976837
how is rosemi? i hear shes very sweet and innocent and a lot of memes go right over her head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977075
To be fair, they do tasty bread.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Good morning /vtwbg/
>>19968496
An ancient myth of our Takeshi ancestors, from before the worship of the Kroniissiah came to us

In ancient times, there once was an almighty snake owned by the Goddess called Boros that dwelled within the cavity of the mountains. One day, it was enraged by the new inhabitants of the island (humans) as they disrupted the once peaceful island by recklessly affecting other beings' way of life. It burrowed a deep hole all the way to the center of the /vt/ Earth to find peace and in the process caused a volcanic eruption. The humans of the land were mortified by the sight of the eruption, many had died, and had to begged for forgiveness for it to stop. It also got to a point where the native beings of the island were being killed off at an alarming rate. Boros being able to feel the humans' sense of guilt and remorse, as well as its realization of the harm that it did to those it intended to protect, decided to seal off the hole that it dug, effectively stopping the eruption. Boros now lies in deep slumber in the deepest parts of the earth, free from any disturbance. The humans and the island's native beings had learnt to coexist.

Boros was a pre-Kronii deity of our ancestors. When the Kronii faith was developed, the character of Boros became a servant of Kronii, taking her name and becoming Ouroboros, who is seen as a protector of the island just like Boros.

[Anonymous No.]

And into the fire we go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977104
Ojisan bait

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Backreading a little and I can tell there was a timeloop about infinity, again, in my absence, again.

We are currently discussing in our own thread alternatives to the canal. Even if we do get a canal, it will take years and years to finish, so it's in everyone's interest (both pro- and anti-canal) for an alternative to arise.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not reading the upcoming shitstorm.
Have fun, see you tomorrow /vtwbg/

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19973036
KFP are humans, however they do raise a unique breed of especially fat white feathered chicken. Perhaps having Phoenixes be a species of brightly colored bird native to the mountain forests of /KFP/ could be really cool though and I am totally stealing that yoink thanks for the idea dude.

>>19968496
Actually we're already sort of trading Phoenix feather to infinity, so I should probably flesh out Phoenixes a little.
>Phoenixes are a species of omnivorous gamebird native to the mountain forests of KFP, comparable to a vulture in size. While capable of it they are poor fliers and spend the majority of their life on the ground, using their wings largely to assist in jumping and sparring.
>Their poor flight is attributed largely to their feathers being coated in a unique wax. Phoenix wax is flammable, and burns slowly, producing a distinct turquois flame. A Phoenix is capable of igniting this wax at will using a unique set of electricity producing organs at the base of its beak that produce a small electric spark when flexed. To put itself a phoenix will simply stop producing wax and let the flames die down, however this doesn't always work and it is not uncommon for a phoenix to die from heat exhaustion simply by being on fire for too long.
>Phoenixes largely use their self immolation as a display of good health towards mates, however it has also been seen to be used to scare off predators.
>Despite being a bird with little flying ability they have no natural predators due to their large size, sharp beak, vicious claws, and horrifying ability to self immolate at will

Phoenix commodities
>Phoenixes, despite their fierce nature and relative scarcity, are in fact farmed, although very scarcely: there are few phoenix farms (12 located in across /KFP/, with one more located a little over a mile across the border in Duck)
>Phoenixes are farmed mostly for their feathers and wax, which both possess unique and sought after properties. Phoenix meat is rarely consumed due to its price and it being taboo to do so: in KFP consumption of Phoenix meat without the Kaiserin's expressed consent is legally recognized as an act of treason. However it should be noted that Phoenix meat tastes incredibly good, tasting like chicken with a distinct citrusy, cinnamony, undertone
>Phoenix feathers are highly in demand for their flame retardant properties and distinct orange coloration. Phoenix feather barb is often cut off, dipped in alcohol to dissolve the wax off it, then woven into a fabric to fire proof it. alternatively feathers are sold simply as expensive decorative items, however this is less common.
>Phoenix wax is typically dissolved in small masses of ethanol, producing a 50% ethanol 50% wax mix. This sticky fuel, often called phoenix oil, is used across KFP for everything from lamp fuel to firework dye.
>Phoenix wax can also be refined and compressed into dense orange cubes, called the Kaiserin's butter. These are, however, highly volatile and expensive, and are rarely (if ever) used outside of the military, where it is are packed into cannon balls to act as incendiary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977104
It's true! She's my darling dumb and bratty daughter who I love very much. An absolute sweetheart who doesn't even understand how a deez nuts joke works.

[Anonymous No.]

>/infinity/
>Making other splits mald
That's how you know you're in /vtwbg/.
I want to see them annex another split just to see everyone lose their shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977290
Alternative: Respect your own lore and stay in your island that was made specifically to cater your lore.
You don't get to just drop stuff now that you got what you wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977290
>Even if we do get a canal
Bud... read /infinity/ we already talked with the risuner about that

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19968496
>>19977146
Forgot to say, this myth is to explain that we once had volcanic activity and why it stopped. So to that tectonic anon, yes we once had volcanic activity, but not anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like if this general was run by Nijisanji and not hololive, things would be more fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976270
>I didn't even bring it up, you did and I said no for the aforementioned reasons.
Haven't compiled everything yet but I brought it up since the counter evidence for >>19942118 was insufficient.

I believe this is WestProposal Anon that has now deferred(?), but there is still a lack of substance to officially grant the East Island. A vote to finalize it is my goal so it doesn't hurt to be on the floor.

Your stance has been noted in >>19971134

t./rrat/

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19977378
Do the generals here not have to right to change policy or relations in lore instead of retroactively? feel like that stifles a lot of creativity, not to mention /who/ annexed /uuu/ in lore instead of retroactively always having that land.
>>19977398
On it. Just got online, whoops

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977590
I say we conduct a Nijisanji continental census. How much of your population are beggars our top statisticians really want to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977309
How are phoenixes farmed in /kfp/? While there aren't any signs of them being sapient in the greentext, I'm not sure if the mental image of them being confined in farms like their more mundane counterpart would be suitable both because of how important phoenix seems to be in /kfp/ culture, and how their byproducts tend to be flammable.

>>19977364
Sorry to bother you, but is there any feedback to the /meat/ resource list I posted a while ago? I'm interested to see what on that list interests /rose/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977309
The phoenix's down must feel extra soft. Also would be cute to pet phoenixes.

>>19977364
>>19977104
I wonder if Rosebutas and Risunans will get along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977993
depends. risuners are very horny and make lots of innuendos. We also are pretty cultured with memes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978078
I have to keep the bread dogs on a leash when visiting /risu/. Bread dogs do chase squirrels. They mean no harm.

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19977972
They're kept in a similar manner to a bird of prey, and are largely kept free range. They're sedentary animals, and will not move their nest unless the old one is destroyed or taken by another Phoenix, so cooping them up is largely a waste of time and effort as they'll sleep the same place every evening anyway.

They're revered the same way cows are in india, and are treated with immense respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978319
yes that would be appreciated thank you. Just be aware that risu is extremely devoted to our oshi and were not afraid to toss people into the chambers if things go wrong. But we only do that if you shit talk our squirrel queen so you should be fine. Oh and we have magical trees/nuts

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19977309
>Kaiserrin's Butter
Greek Fire but with KFP? Sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977832
Why take part in a dumpster fire?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977972
Oops, I actually completely forgot to get back to you about that. Well, I've got answers now, so no worries! Hemp, cacao, rosewood, vanilla, aloe, coffee beans, and tobacco are the items that interest us. The most important of those would be aloe.
>>19977993
>>19978078
I would love to get along with you guys, though a lot of innuendos might go over our heads. As a nation we're fairly on the isolationist side, since we live underground in a frozen tundra type place. But we've recently been looking to make friends!

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19978345
They are also intelligent enough to be trained, although obedience is a massive issue as Phoenixes are fairly conscious of their physical capabilities.

As for flammable materials, phoenixes are generally kept in brick birdhouses rather than wood. also said flammable byproducts are actually what's being farmed in this case.

>>19977993
petting a phoenix would be SUPER fucking risky considering that they can self immolate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978524
underground in a tundra? well damn its gonna be quite a big change when you see our big forests. What kind of food do you guys have btw we have some top tier nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978636
I'm sure you have some nice phoenixes that love attention. Also one more thing. /nasa/ is preparing flour and sugar for shipment which will be ready Monday. The bags will be wrapped in waterproof packaging. All we ask for you to return the wrapping and tarp when you come back. We can't make more plastic without petroleum but we can recycle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978930
We have lots of meat! Most of it is sheep or cow meat, but we have rat meat as well. A few of the colonies even have... Pork. We also make a lot of salads and have a decent range of fruits. All of it is the remains of long ago brought underground, carefully kept alive and thriving by our faithful gardeners! Nothing tastes quite like /rose/ food!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979373
Meat is always nice. As long as your able to do 3 things primarily we would love to have you visit.
>no deforestation or disrupting nature, especially on a large scale
>Be respectful of our ways and traditions as we are seen as an odd bunch
>Under no circumstances try to convert us from our religion. While we respect outsiders, anyone who tries to steer us away from our oshi shall be thrown into the geese chanber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978524
Awesome, I'll take notes of that for records then!

>>19978451
I took the liberty of looking up what kind of plants /risu/ is likely to have. Feel free to make use or disregard this information to your needs!
Based on the climate, /risu/ probably will get the majority of acorns from ring-cupped oaks (subgenus Cyclobalanopsis). They might not look as archetypical as usually depicted, but apparently it's fairly rich in starch and is used for food and alcohol beverage alike (although you might want to get rid of the tannin first). They also have clustered acorns, so that might be a good thing when it comes to harvesting as well.
For non-oaks, /risu/ would likely have camphor, teak, and potentially mahogany and sandalwood (which also have nuts; Australian aborigines supposedly eat them). Groundnuts should also be abundant, and cultivation of cassia should be possible too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979854
Not an issue! Despite how our living conditions make us appear, we have no quarrels with nature! And not to fear, Rosebutas actually dislike it when other races worship their goddess, so we wouldn't even think about converting you! And for odd, who isn't odd in this world?

[Anonymous No.]

Considering how many cosplayers there are among fembeats and KFP waitresses, is it fair to conclude that /kfp/ and /morig/ are known for their women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980500
Oh god, don't remind me of the fashion review fembeats... My bone still hasn't recovered from that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980091
Damn wtf? Im actually very tempted to anchor this, beats the hell out of anything ive posted relating to the types of nuts we have other than them having magical properties/very small amounts of chuubanite. Good shit anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980739
Feel free to anchor and/or incorporate info from it in your lore writing old map atlases are surprisingly good for worldbuilding due to all sorts of info they have

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980500
Say, you know, on the flip side of that /rose/ would also be known for some very feminine cosplayers. Only difference is that ours are very girly men, the cutest femboys and traps in all of /vt/! Remember, it's only gay if you touch his penis.

[Anonymous No.]

For crops /nasa/ should have wheat, sugarbeets, but also some cool crops like peas, carrots, onions, collard greens, turnips, kale, radishes, broccoli, and cauliflower. We do have beans in the greenhouse but we can't cultivate beans outside. /nasa/ can process wheat into both flour and beer and sugarbeets into sugar. We also have some maple trees. However its too early for a syrup harvest since that's in the winter. I don't know if we can ship vegetables without refrigeration. Would /risu/ be interested any of these things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981200
>>19968496
Anchoring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981161
how many pics of rosemi do you have? my god your dedicated to your oshi and i respect that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981451
Classified information, bud. But I save every new image I come across and I make my own pretty frequently.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19981161
Would /rose/ be interested in trading with infinity? Your tight next to /yeah/, one of our trading partners, so it's definitely feasible. For perishables we have cabbages, potatoes, and coldwater fish. We also have coal and vodka, and many blessed products with special properties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981908
We might be! I don't think your perishables would interest us much, we don't really need coal as our Rosestones do most of the work that coal does, and to be honest what kind of Russia-based nation would we be if we didn't produce our own vodka?
But blessed products sound unique! We like special things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982549
risu can offer you knowledge in the ways of memes that could go over your heads. i could imagine some risuners and rosebros getting drunk together. brb unless someone knows. is there any alcohol or beer that can be made from nuts. Never had a sip in my life so my drinking knowledge is non existant

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19982549
Everyone wants the body fluids...
Here is a list of those blessed items and their effects.
https://rentry.org/p7sww

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982871
Knowledge is power, we'd be happy to learn! And happy to drink as well, as long as Rosebutas get to do so in the name of our goddess of course. We drink because she cannot. As for nut based alcohol, of course! Nut liquor is an entire sub category of drink, if I remember right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982871
Basically anything that contains sugar can be used to make alcohol, and that includes acorns (with their starch). It's definitely an uncommon choice, but apparently people have brewed liquor and beer from it before, so it definitely can be done. The tannin from acorns (assuming they aren't removed beforehand) would give the product a drying sensation (as they call it in red wine), as well as a bitter taste (partly why beer taste bitter). I can't attest to its taste (and I guess it's not something that can really be conveyed accurately with words), but some people describe acorn liquor with "wonderful aromatics reminiscent of bourbon, Madeira, and plums", so take that of what you will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19983203
>body fluids
I didn't think about the blessed products being that, for some reason. Um, I think kronii water is the least weird of those, and the strength/endurance boost would be really good for Boars, so we'll trade for that then.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19983497
Awesome. Would we be able to trade for rosestones? If that's off the table, what could you offer us?

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19983497
Oh and btw
are you the same rosebud that frequents infinity or do all rosebuds have the same reaction image database

[Anonymous No.]

>>19983701
We could offer Rosestones, we could trade in weights if you'd like. Say, one kilogram of rosestone equals two kilograms of kronii water? Rosestones take a long time to grow and are usually in short supply, so that's why the exchange rate is doubled.
>>19983835
Rosebuds do share a collection of images between each other, yeah! But I might be! ;)

[Anonymous No.]

If anyone is interested /nasa/ has dug up and polished meteorites. I wouldn't use them for forging. But they're quite pretty when you polish them up. Also meteorites are rare to find in tact. So they have some value as a commodity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971748
Honesty its fucking hilarious and its begining to make me a anti-kronimite. Can't trust them to keep their agreements so next i'm expecting them to just become a war monger

[Anonymous No.]

>>19983318
A minor note regarding nut liquor: they aren't very suitable as the primary fermentation material due to their relative lack of sugar (although some types of nuts might fare better in that regard), and so most alcoholic drinks with nuts are made by mixing it with either other fermentation material (acorns work as per >>19983465, but so do many other more common food crops) or brewed alcohol to give them additional flavour. Chuubanite enrichment can change that, or give the result even more additional effects, but that's mostly up to /risu/ to decide given that it's explicitly magical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19984805
Honestly I'm not too worried about any warmongering from any nation. If they try to attack /rose/, it gives me the opportunity to teach them a valuable lesson about invading a nation that thrives in the cold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19984898
/nasa/ has sugar. They're from beets. Once you grind the beets into sugar then it never expires if you keep sugar dry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985034
beetroot wine sounds interesting ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>19984805
.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985193
Is acting for alliances bad now

[Anonymous No.]

well./risu/ rep here gonna head off to bed. night everyone. And for those wondering me and those at /infinity/ are working things out so pls no more shitstorms? ill most likely have a revised/updated lore dump tomorrow as well that ill anchor so goodnight vtwbg

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985171
More like rum actually. I think /nasa/ has a recipe for rum cake somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985552
Sleep well bud, have a good night!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985552
Good night and see you later!

>>19985555
I think if you make rum out of beet sugar, then the result's usually called beet(root) wine (even if it's not strictly wine). If you brew with extracted sugar, the result's called Kilju (in Finnish at least). Kilju is usually considered cheap alcohol, but I reckon its relative lack of taste beyond alcohol makes it a pretty good base for adding stuff in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985193
>were isolationists and thats why our massive advantages are pointless and we'd never use them to dominate our relationships with other nations
>lol guys we now have protectorates
god fuck kronies. Last time I was in their thread they were discussing giving themselves lee-enfields, a fucking late 1880s gun that was used in world war 1 . I didn't bring it up here because I didn't want to start drama but fuck kronies

[Anonymous No.]

On one hand I'm bummed that we can't move the station as soon as I want to. On the other hand I guess we could get a head start on refrigeration technology. Now the thing about creating a freezer is that you have to actively "pump" the heat out of the freezer by transferring the heat via fluids (liquid and gas). I don't know if chuubanite can obtain a liquid form without energizing it so much that it melts. That said perhaps we can try to invent a conductive material that can use chuubanite's ability to absorb energy (heat) away from the chamber and expel it via radiator or vent. Sadly /nasa/ does not have enough information on how to work chuubanite into materials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19985374
Don't you know? If you're a Kronie, anything you do is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986213
You can always bind it with a liquid to be used as refrigerant, although I'm not sure if that's too related to Sana, which seems to be a common factor in deciding what a particular chuubanite variant does. Personally, I think you might be better off using more low-tech iceboxes for that purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>people say we shouldn't be isolationist chuunis
>infinity stops being isolationist
>this is bad

>people say infinity should not be now advanced than others
>infinity starts offering to share their tech

>various nations form alliances
>infinity wants to do the same
>this is bad

>/clg/ openly discusses plans to conquer their neighbors
>no one cares
>people still fearmonger infinity will go to war with others

>/who/ annexes /uuu/ outside of this thread
>infinity protectorates /risu/
>only the latter causes a shitstorm despite no proof of this

This is fucking ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>people say we shouldn't be isolationist chuunis
>infinity stops being isolationist
>this is bad

>people say infinity should not be more advanced than others
>infinity starts offering to share their tech
>this is bad

>various nations form alliances
>infinity wants to do the same
>this is bad

>/clg/ openly discusses plans to conquer their neighbors
>no one cares
>people still fearmonger infinity will go to war with others, despite no proof this will happen

>/who/ annexes /uuu/ outside of this thread
>infinity protectorates /risu/ outside of this thread
>only the latter causes a shitstorm
This is fucking ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976192
Fuck off. Thats bullshit. If I had my way my thread would attempt to push against /infinity/ influence to prevent them from dominating but they're a thread on /vt/ so they have a claim here

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986653
yeah we got it the first time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986037
They agreed to make it manually loaded instead of magazine fed as soon as someone pointed out the advancedness of the Lee Enfield. The representative even chided the person who suggested the Lee Enfield in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986653
No need to rev up your victim complex this much. I think the only thing that is really widely considered problematic is the highly anachroni(heh)stic canal, and everything else is grievances that got brought up as a result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986778
It had typos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986853
Reading this thread, several people take up issue with a lot more than just the canal. Even other representatives last thread with the cals to move us back to the west and force us back into isolationism

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986653
this has got to be advanced falseflagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986950
Fuck, now I think you're posting in bad faith. It's basically one super autist who wants to move the island, everyone else is pushing against that. In particular, no representatives have said they wanted that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987014
Read the last thread when people were saying Yay, Nay, or Abstain. Shit, read this thread. More than one person wants us to just leave this thread. You mean to tell me it's all one guy?
>>19986962
It's my genuine feeling right now going through this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986495
Ice boxes will be simple because what we need is insulation. Insulation will keep heat out of the boxes which is how ice stays frozen. Chuubanite could keep the ice boxes cool by absorbing the heat of the sun during the day and then have that heat radiate off the ice house's roof. But if /nasa/ wants liquid hydrogen then we need sub-zero temperatures. We do have some cryo storage for the fuel we have. But we lack the means to make more fuel. Maybe if there was a nation that uses freezing and ice technology we could visit them. For now we can only research with what we have.

As for the hypothesis of liquifying chuubanite... It comes from an observation when we foolishly tried to clean the ore using a mining laser. The laser must have overcharged the chuubanite until it became a gas and exploded. Maybe we can use a not-so-high powered laser to see if we can energize the chuubanite until it melts. From there we can see how the liquid works. The liquid might not be useable as fuel. But liquid chuubanite could be what makes runes and glyphs work. The liquid may give us the energy transferring properties we need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986803
Oh thats kind of based, good on them. I looked though that thread and then the next and didn't see that, though in the thread afterwards there was no lore discussion just fucking timeloops about tripfags and twitter fags it was fucking horrible. Might have damaged my perception more than anything thats happened in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987248
It's just a bit of shitflinging. Man, why are Kronies so emotional? It's all the gay shit you guys do, has to be.
Despite that, I love ya and don't want you to leave or to move your island, and I'm pretty sure the people arguing otherwise on those two specific points are a minority.
Fuck the canal though kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986653
Ah one of the 2-6 kronie schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987305
Maybe the chuubanite can be dissolved instead of melted? Get up to some chemistry shit. Salt metal solutions tend to have interesting properties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987440
>get singled out every time you do what others do
>get mad
>"why are you so emotional lol fag"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986653
Don't forget they're stalking /infinity/ too to find stuff to complain about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987440
It's hard to tell all the banter from the genuine hatred. We're not leaving and don't worry, I don't think our rep wants us to push through on the canal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987248
If you're from /inf/, I feel it's probably better for you to air your grievances in your own thread and let archivebro relay it here. It's probably better for everyone (including /inf/) here. Also should note the difference between wanting /inf/ out and keeping /inf/ around but moving the island (be noted that I'm not saying I support either).

>>19987305
Isn't the reason /nasa/ station get a surprise renovation and crashed here being the experiment with chuubanite? Not sure if it would be a good idea for you to try purifying and exciting it for now lol
As for cooling iceboxes, I think normal ice (probably the only thing /nasa/ doesn't lack in quantity) should suffice as far as transporting perishables go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987587
I was just checking out the discussion about guns because people said you were talking about good ideas for clockwork guns and I was disappointed in what I saw. Its not a big deal at all now, I just missed the Rep pointing out how ridiculous that was

[Anonymous No.]

In the end, it always comes down to technology timeloops, it's always been about technology

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987573
I mean, getting emotional about any thing at all in this thread is remarkably silly. Shit, getting mad about anything on this board is pretty silly.
Just enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987336
We can't even reject bad ideas in our own thread without damaging our own reputation. That seems a touch unreasonable, no? What do you want us to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987523
Maybe it can be both. For cryo we need a gas that can also liquify at cold temperatures. For electricity we can use copper wires. As for dissolving chuubanite into a solution we need to make sure the dust doesn't stick or clog the system. I just thought about using chuubanite as part of radiator. I'm kinda spitballing ideas at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987823
Nigga I just told you its fine, don't get so emotional about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987747
You're stalking splits to find stuff to complain about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987706
>It's probably better for you to air your grievances in your own thread
I'm sure one of the stalkers schizos will just leak it here anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987821
Go tell it to the schizos getting mad at us in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988122
I was honestly just interested in what the clockwork gun discussion might have been. I didn't even bring it up here when it happened because I figured I'd wait for you guys to finalize it and then do it. sorry for brining it up this time but I'm glad to find out the idea was discussed a bit more

[Anonymous No.]

>>19987706
Learning from a catastrophy gives us more knowledge on how the material works and what not to do. We didn't know what the material was when we first discovered it. Now we have some insight on how it could work. Also the experiments will be done outside the station at a very safe distance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988431
Anon, I'm a deadbeat, I know my schizos. The best you can do is not to engage with the obvious ones, and correct misconceptions genuine anons might develop, there's nothing else to it.

[Anonymous No.]

It has been 24 hours since derailment, so let me sum up the past discussions as best I could.
Unlike before I am not fully disconnected so let me cite my biases, and there's a lot of wall of texts this time around so I may be oversimplifying.

On re-establishing gravitas:
>I am/was the /rrat/ rep
>I have historically called out historic revisionism that happens in /vtwbg/
>Significant works from me are the Zone Autism Event (>>17441139)
>Also the Neutralfag v /Inf/ Event (>>18925120)
>The Isolation/Canal lore change caused a bit of a stir and I saw some inaccuracies in the evidence presented by the Kronies
>This is in regard to the island matter, which was dropped halfway when Neutralfag left and everyone just wanted to move on
>An Anon (WestProposal Anon) suggested if /Inf/ is not an isolationist anymore, why can't they be in the West (>>19940810)
>/Inf/ rep did not like this (>>19941216 >>19942459)
>I cited the current status of the island matter (>>19942460) which led to a lot back and forth
>My position remains the same: "If Isolation is dropped, so why are you not in the West is a valid question."
>My reasoning for why the past evidence for Eastern Island isn't sufficient so we should finalize it and actually make it official(>>19961252, >>19961617, >>19962031)
>Needless to say I got some disingenous assertions on my motive...and had to re-explain my stance....a lot... I apologize, but it is my belief this has to be settled officially so there's collective agreement.


The Coming Storm Side A:
>/Inf/ makes a lore post that its not isolationists anymore (>>19915765)
>An Anon cites this throws /Inf/'s tech advantage out the window (>>19915840)
>/Inf/ rep says they will only share with allies, so their advantage makes sense(>>19916004)

Meanwhile Back At The Ranch:
>Some Anons suspecting /Inf/ wants to build a Canal (>>19932218, >>19938078)
>This is dismissed as impossible (>>19932299, >>19939883)
>/kfp/ rep shares the plans to build a canal (>>19940031)

Here we start:
>Anon notices both plays and cites /Inf/ cannot build a canal or the whole world is tech bumped to make the canal feasible, also /Inf/ is backing out of their word (>>19940183)
>Some anons think it's okay to be bumped up, because magic (>>19940254, >>19940289, >>19940301)
>Anon brings up how rediculous the canal would be (>>19940502)
>/kfp/ rep agrees and backs out of the canal (>>19940766)
>/Inf/ says it's okay for everyone to be bumped to 1800s and the canal is possible because of magic (>>19940613)
>/meat/ rep(?) disagrees (>>19941369)
>WestProposal anon brings up they got the island because of their isolationist policy and they can fix their canal problems by moving west(>>19940810)
>/Inf/ cites timeloop and the island was agreed East by the thread(>>19941216)
>WestProposal Anon(?) cites how many things were given to /Inf/ already (>>19942118)
>I cite /Inf/'s claim for the Island is false/Incomplete (>>19942460)
>This starts a pretty big time loop, I can make a highlight reel, but I am not an impartial party in it this time. Nothing no one has read before.

The /vtwbg/ floor Session I:
>I sum up the topics of debate so we can all come to consensus(>>19943880)
>Isolationism y/n
>Canal y/n
>The Eastern Island y/n

Floor results Day1: (>>19943880, YBC: >>19955338, KFP amend: >>19971542)
/Inf/ Isolationism:
>/nasfaqg/ Aye (just explain it in lore) (side note: also WestProposal Anon?)
>/kfp/: Abstain, (maybe lore of the start of reducing isolationism), okay so long as other generals are developed enough that /Inf/'s power is not one sided - it might also be fun to have imbalance
>Anon: Aye, it's okay so long as it's lore'd properly
>/Inf/(personal): Aye - it makes for better lore
>/SakuraM/: Aye (just explain it in lore)*
>/YBC/: Kronies need to decide what they want, they made so much noise to be an island and isolationist, now they don't want to be.
>/who/: Abstain (?) Isolationism was used to justify their advantage, but now they are non isolationist and still have that advantage - it needs to be heavily balanced
>/wg/: /Inf/ shouldn't be proposing drawbacks that they can just write out later.

/Inf/ Canal
>/nasfaqg/: Nay, it will destory other threads reliant on trade
>/kfp/: Nay, tech too low to maintain one of that size
>Anon: Aye, would make some nice scenarios with other generals
>/Inf/(personal): Abstain - not impartial
>/SakuraM/: Nay - it doesn't make sense to maintain even if we are in the 1900s
>/YBC/: Nay - it's impsossible and fucks over trade states like /nasfaqg/
>/who/: Nay
>/wg/: Aye - but it has to be limited to make sense


/Inf/ Moves to the West Island
>/nasfaqg/: Abstain, it was an alternate suggestion - to canal and isolationism
>/kfp/: Nay, too disruptive
>Anon: Aye, they have no ground to stand on to be in the East if they aren't isolated
>/Inf/(personal): Nay - it's rediculous
>/SakuraM/: Nay - moving them is too much trouble*
>/YBC/: Nay - it will destabalize the map
>/who/: Nay
>/wg/: No - dear god no

(1/2)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988519
The Kronii Rep matter:
>/SakuraM/ would like to bring up that the thread made consessions to /Inf/ on the grounds they are isolationists, dropping it after they got what they want leaves a bad taste (>>19947036)
>/Inf/ defends itself, isolationism, tech advantage, and eastern islands were different requests at least by the thread rep(>>19947959)
>/SakuraM/ brings up how /Inf/'s lore consessions of "strong army but isolationist and civil war", can just be written out of the lore so why should people trust /Inf/ (>>19949094)
>/Inf/ says they can make more lore consessions (>>19950227)
>/SakuraM/ says other people should give their opinion first
>Anon says /Inf/ should be given a penalty card for the Advantage they got and writing out their concessions (>>19957543)
>Anon, clearly anti-Kronie and pretty toxic, brought up a good point so I'll simplify it
>Kronies demanded a military/technology and then they "nerfed themselves" only for them to "unnerf themeselves later", there's also discussions on /inf/ on expansion plans (?) (>>19959778)


Mini events:
Risu debates
>Anons cite how Kronies are taking advantage of threads not interested to gain land
>Kronie defends with the discussion (>>19950228)
>bit of a back and forth about sample size..
>From what I understand this is now being re-negotiated

Tripfagging:
>Might need to bring this to floor as well, some are for it, some are really against it.

(2/2)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988501
>T.deadbeat
>engage with schizos
its like pottery

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19984233
Duly noted, wosebud. We accept this trade. We hope this brings our nations closer.
>>19988519
Don't forget I changed my mind on bumpjg everyone up after /meat/bro said it brings up problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988705
Nah, this one strikes me more as a genuine fragile autistic anon, not a malignant schizo.
I won't deny we have our times of weakness though kek.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything is going according to keikaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988818
I don't know, my T.deadbeat senses tell me that hes just playing a role to try to shit up the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

/yeah/ would like to extend an offer to /rose/. Given that most of /rose/'s coastline is polar tundra, this does not put you in the best position to participate in maritime trade. However, to remedy this, /yeah/ wants to offer /rose/ the use of its ports, to grant /rose/ the ability to participate in maritime trade. Taxes will not be levied fot access to our ports, and we will not restrict /rose/'s ability to trace with other nations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988519
>>19988583
impressive autism /rrat/ rep, I'm kind of kneeling a little bit
>>19988972
It's another case of "gotta wait on developments before i write lore again".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988519
>>19988583
Thanks for the summary, and I'm in favour of bringing the subject of tripcode to the floor as well (not to be confused with supporting that proposal). I should also add I'm >>19941369 (nice), and while I'm from /meat/, we never get around establishing a thread rep both because we don't have many in this thread (I can count 2~3 long-term contributors) and the tendency for us to get nuked and banned by jannies. If it proves necessary, though, we can work on that issue in our own thread before it gets pruned again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988519
>Some Anons suspecting /Inf/ wants to build a Canal
>This is dismissed as impossible
>/kfp/ rep shares the plans to build a canal
Art imitates real life, it's like the Ukraine situation/ Cuban Missile Crisis
SSG Kronies!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988805
Good to hear! I'm happy our transactions are successful!

[Anonymous No.]

Tweaked pole positions a bit more, and using a more up-to-date map that includes the /inf/ island. Lemme know if that version has any errors, it's the one from the OP. I also changed it so the equator was properly at the equator, and got the cut off poles as small as I could, any smaller than that and the lands at the edges really start getting borked out.
I think I'll try to use a purely heightmap-based workflow, this way it's easier to amend and more friendly to possible collaborative efforts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19991118
Looks cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>19991118
Looks quite good! What's the latitude of the cutoff point?

[Anonymous No.]

Until /nasa/ has the man power to build their own port we're going to need to ask /who/ if we can use their ports for loading goods. Since we're building a bakery there we can combine land shipments of bakery and ship cargo over land to save time. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19991418
Certainly, /who/ is very willing to aid you with our ports and with trade protection, since you're already establishing a bakery in our cities it should be relatively easy to get you on the logistical system

[Anonymous No.]

>>19991654
I suppose if there's one thing /nasa/ can do is assess logistics. Also we're experimenting with beetroot wine. As for the bakery would it be close to the port?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19991996
I haven't placed the cities yet, but i guess the port would also have a city around it, if /nasa/'s interested in exporting then it's probably the better placement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19991380
Thanks! This is just a projection of the existing map, I've got bigger plans for this.
>>19991415
Thank you, I got it down to 22.5 degrees. That is still a significant area, so I think adjustments (climate) may still be necessary, hopefully not too world-changing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19992231
We can still have the bakery inland. I figure you would make more profits feeding hungry sailors. Implying the bakery doubles as a restaurant. We can even make stews with the cooking stove.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19992892
Nice, just to be sure, the main port would be somewhere around in the peninsula we hold.

[Anonymous No.]

Has /infinity/ figured out the cost of the gears /nasa/ asked for yet? We can handle the assembly when the parts arrive. /nasa/ can pay in gold if necessary. We'll have to scrap some boards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19992551
Should be fairly similar based on my (very basic) new current draft, with the main general shift being that places are generally warmer (which makes sense since everyone is closer to the Equator now). The ones most likely to have a change in climate zones should be those near the 30 and 60th parallel both before and after the change, but it shouldn't be too drastic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19993262
/who/ does hold important steel production and capable smiths, if you provide the design we could work something out while cheaping out on import costs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19993567
Nice, doing god's work anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19993585
The gears are delicate and need more precision to cast than by hand. They're pretty small.

[Anonymous No.]

Who in the nations connected to /hlg/ are normal humanoids ?

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19993262
How valuable are the meteorites you're offering? Infinity is willing to give you a little more gears parts than the meteorites are worth, to help you in development of your infrastructure. Of course we trust you not to trade

[Anonymous No.]

>>19994143
Molds could be arranged, /nasa/ would have to be very precise in their specifications, so direct help might be required to make sure everything is in order

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19994781
*them with others

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988519
We should have let /inf/ try and build the canal, either their autism wills it into existence or they bankrupt their own country.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm heading to bed buds, I'll have something real big finished up for you tomorrow. I hope you liked learning about Rosebuta biology, because there's going to be a whole lot more of that!
And then I'll get to finishing the first chapter of my Rosebuta story, which will give insight on how /rose/ operates on a more intricate level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19994781
We managed to find a 9 kilogram meteorite. We polished it up. You can see the iron and nickel patterns. It is a space rock that survived impact. Not sure how valueable that is compared to gemstones but it is a rare treasure. We also have some gold to trade. We just need to melt the gold down into bars first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19995573
Scratch that. We found another meteorite for you. This time its Pallasite, which has peridot in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>The inhabitants of /Morig/, the deadbeats, are physically quite an odd specimen when compared to the human and demi-human inhabitants of /vt/. /hlgg/ Empire physicians have dissected deadbeats and found that perhaps unsurprisingly their bones are incredible dense and strong. This is largely offset by their flesh and muscle being weaker than the average humanoid though it does leave them on the stronger side of the races of /vt/. The most surprising thing about their physiology is that their nervous system is entirely contained with in their bones and many of their internal organs appear connected to their skeletal structure. Many of the internal organs also have a hard layer white layer that protects them that appears to be bone as well, though currently the college is loath to apply this label. This combined with the density of their bones leaves them with an incredibly well protected nervous system. Some members of the imperial college have suggested that the flesh is infact more of a puppet that the skeleton controls. This explains the old deadbeat saying “There is a deadbeat inside all of us”. The consensus of the imperial college rejects this hypothesis though that may be because the idea makes them uncomfortable. The functionality of this leads to deadbeats being able to survive grievous injury, the level of which would normally kill say a hooman from bloodloss, as well as maintain functionality so long as the bone is not significantly damaged. That said heavy injuries to the head are fatal as are generally heavy wounds to the upper chest. This dissection explains why, when though the machinations of the imperial electorate, deadbeats are thrown into some of the worse military operations, the brigades they provide come out with success for operations that were intended to be diversion. They suffer terrible losses and injuries but are able to keep pressing forward due to their unique physiology.

Hopefully this works. I couldn't see any /hlgg/ lore posts but form what I remember being discussed they were functionally like the holy roman empire so I went ahead with that idea in mind. I also wanted to have deadbeats be basically humans but also have the skeleton in control and I'm hoping thats not taking the human/demi-human aspect too far

[Anonymous No.]

>>19996688
Remember to anchor >>19968496

[Anonymous No.]

>>19996825
Ah my bad. Its been a while

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19995573
>>19996252
Interesting! But I don't know enough about these to put a price on it. How many gears do you need?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19996934
I don't know the schematics. The gears are for making hand cranked blenders and mixers. We need enough parts to make 5 blenders and 5 mixers. We can print the relevant blueprints for the gears we need. We will handle the assembly ourselves because there's other parts we have to make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968496
Anchoring this design as the /vtwbg/ flag since there didn't seem to be any objections when I first proposed it.

[Anonymous No.]

As for the pricing of the meteorites I did a quick search online. Depending on the contents of the meteorites they range from worthless to small fortunes. The silica meteorites are about 50 cents a gram. While Pallasites can reach more than 400 dollars a gram. A dinnerplate slice of Pallasite could be thousands of dollars. Not sure how that would translate to gold ounces in this world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19997412
Might want to hold it off for a while, since there're plans to make it so that the map truncated part of the polar to avoid distortion near the map's top and bottom (see >>19991118).

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19997265
Would it be possible to give us the blueprints so we can send you the exact number of parts in increments? And then you can just send us meteorites as you fnd them. We're more interested in helping you than turning a profit off of space rocks we don't quite understand yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>19997775
The weird-ass peninsulas forming a claw around the North Pole does look pretty sick, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19997412
This is an autistic nitpick, but then this project is a pretty autistic endeavour. But the north pole here is not aligned with the north pole indicated by the circles in the background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19997854
We already have the meteorites secured. We found them while digging for scrap. While we can't send the blueprints for the completed device because of the prime directive, we can send schematics for forging the gears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19997775
>>19997953
Fair enough. I'll just wait to see how the map changes then and submit a fixed version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19997877
One man's sick is another man's immersion breaking... But that gives me an idea to make the extrapolations of the schizo lands, /kson/ and /ppt/ shaped as draconic claws clawing at the pole, could look neat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19998184
What did you use to generate the flat earth style image? I could provide you with an updated version.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19998169
Once you have schematics, send them over so we know how exactly to make them, and we'll send them over.
Basically this is an offer to send you as many as you need ASAP, but you don't actually need to come up with exact numbers. Just saying we'll help as much as we can and as fast as we can

[Anonymous No.]

>>19998286
I couldn't find a program to convert to the map projection I wanted automatically, so I ended up doing it in photoshop following some advice I found. The steps used to create pic related was to rescale the map to a square and then go to filter->distort->polar coordinates. From there I just rotated it to look nicer and slapped it on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19998686
With this being the map I started with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19998686
Gotcha, then I'll follow the same steps.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello! Dragoon here
I want to know about the people living on the nations... you see, we Dragoons have official mascot (Little dragons with different forms).
My question is, Is the population made up of humans who worship their oshi or by official mascots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19998616
When you arrive to pick up the flour, sugar, and beer I'll have the schematics printed by then. The gears are actually the size they are on paper in case we have different measuring systems. We will be using /who/'s seaport for loading goods. A few Sanalites are there overseeing the construction of the bakery. They'll have the goods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999042
It varies by author. Personally, I don't see the practical difference in most cases. If it can accomplish the same things a human can and goes about its life in the same way a human does, it's a human, as far as I'm concerned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999042
Either works, it basically depends on which one the thread prefers. The majority of the threads seem to prefer being more or less humans, although exceptions (like /rose/buta and deadbeats) are accepted as long as they aren't too OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999142
>>19999158
Oh thank you!
I will try to use my brain power to do it the official mascot!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999042
I think for the most parts the "populations" are at least humanoid, though some are non-human. KFP are humans who keep a lot of chicken instead of being chickens, but Rosebuds are weird plant people. So up to yall really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999042
In /nasa/'s case its both astronauts and bread dogs. The bread dogs are actually robots. Some nations are demi-humans like /risu/ being half squirrels. And then there's the Rosebutas which are pig people.

[Anonymous No.]

https://rentry.org/fdows has more details on /rose/butas for those interested. I do quite like how it's written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19996688
Based on this description, am I right in assuming deadbeats at least appear outwardly human in this setting? That's more or less what I had in mind to begin with.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19999103
We'll keep it in mind, spaceman!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19986853
Maybe don't make Kronies the victims and you won't see posts like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999425
I'm imagining them as really thin, bony, pale humans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999548
Then we're on the same page, then. Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999425
>>19999548
deadbeats are outwardly human but the skeleton is in control. That was my intention with this >Some members of the imperial college have suggested that the flesh is infact more of a puppet that the skeleton controls
thats the truth but it isn't known or accepted

[Anonymous No.]

fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999042
Some are completely human and others are almost inhuman, it's all up to (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999711
>the skeleton is in control.
spooky

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999723
fuck off. this isn't a dram thread. Take your screenshot of your own post and go to the kronies now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999723
Check'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>19988113
Stop being a whiny bitch then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999764
Please don't imply I'm a kronie again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981161
Greetings, I am a wealthy merchant from the serene republic of /nasfaqg/. Could I get a qrd on these so called cute femboys you talk about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999723
>inb4 kronies turn to discord to privately discuss their plans

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999867
I didn't mean to. I was calling you a dramanigger who is creating posts and then taking screenshots of them to try to further create drama

[Anonymous No.]

honest question though, whenever someone disagrees with the Kronies, the thread turns to shit. Wtf are we gonna do about it? "Just ignore it and move on" isn't working since man it took a lot of effort to prevent that stupid ass world breaking canal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000291
The ideal solution so far is when /inf/-related disputes occur, /inf/ will be exclusively represented by, well, the thread rep. The idea's that it will reduce the chance of people stirring shit either as Kronie or impersonating one. Of course, that hinges on people ignoring said other people, which admittedly does not seem to work very well so far, but I can't really think of an alternative (that will keep /inf/'s presence here, which is what I prefer) so far.
I guess the only thing I can say is *please* wait for archivebro when things light up for /inf/ again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000291
Genuinely, I think one of the only ways to prevent the threads from devolving every time someone tries to do something controversial is to establish a head arbiter to mete out decisions impartially. Obviously nuefag didn't work out, but maybe having a committee of the thread representatives which can vote to veto anything game-breaking would work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000583
What's the point of a committee when they're no more or less qualified than anyone else in the thread? Barring some falseflagging that goes on, if a bunch of people dogpile on your idea for being shit, it might just be shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000583
like what this anon tried >>19969220
and proceeded to boo'd out as a bad actor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000583
>A committee of Nuefags
WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000678
It would hopefully keep things civil and somewhat official, so we can point at the results and say, "look there's the decision, now let's move on" instead of filling up multiple threads arguing about it.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20000291
It didn't need anything from vtwbg to kill the canal. If risu says they don't want it we won't push it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000291
Discuss anything involved the Kronies in their general, and then the representative gives the final solution here. Everytime the kronies are involved in something, there's a problem
Also, meanwhile >>20000000

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000583
>committee of the thread representatives
That's kind of what we have so far, see the latter half of >>19988519 for an example. I would say it's better than empowering a single individual as arbiter to reduce the chance of personal bias influencing the arbitration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000739
hopefully a kronicaust
is just joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000502
>people say we shouldn't be isolationist chuunis
>infinity stops being isolationist
>this is bad

>people say infinity should not be more advanced than others
>infinity starts offering to share their tech
>this is bad

>various nations form alliances
>infinity wants to do the same
>this is bad

>/clg/ openly discusses plans to conquer their neighbors
>no one cares
>people still fearmonger infinity will go to war with others, despite no proof this will happen

>/who/ annexes /uuu/ outside of this thread
>infinity protectorates /risu/ outside of this thread
>only the latter causes a shitstorm

>another nation has internal discussions for creating things
>no one cares
>infinity has internal discussions for creating things
>this is bad

This is fucking ridiculous.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20000776
That's what we do already. Then while I was asleep there was a massive timeloop here caused by people who will hate anything and everything we do.

The solution is to not talk about Kronie developments when I'm not on, basically. But others writing lore involving us (either positive or negative light) should be fine I think

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20000828
The same post is in this same thread, relax.

[Anonymous No.]

Nuefag died for our sins
Kronies are the Romans in this scenario
is also joke

[Anonymous No.]

>multiple people have different conflicting opinions
>changing things to meet these conflicting opinions
>this is bad
this is fucking ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000772
I still think a railroad in a half decade later would be a better investment. But that's just me.

[Anonymous No.]

>autism
>autism
>this is autistic

This is fucking ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000787
That's a good example of the problem though. When /rrat/ anon tried to get a commitee to discuss, people just accused him and he quit. We lost the GM, and we lost the Stenographer to Kronies, who's next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000853
>The solution is to not talk about Kronie developments when I'm not on
It is what it is

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20000890
MAYBE railroad in our own country. And that alone would take ages. But setting up a railroad in foreign land? And that doesn't even take into account the request not to fuck up the forests, which a railroad would do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000890
Isn't /infinity/ in the American Civil War era? Just let them have a railroad instead of a canal if risu allows it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000772
>If risu says they don't want it we won't push it.
and if Risu said they're okay or remained indifferent? Then what?

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20000787
>>20000924
Wait, what? The /rrat/ recorder of events quit? No one even got mad at him this thread or last.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20000975
Then we will push forward with the canal which will take over a decade, maybe even decades, to complete for sea-faring vessels. No one will see any change in the world economy for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000944
I'm just saying my opinion. Neither canal nor railroad is going to happen if Risuna doesn't want it. Its Risuna's land after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001014
The canal is a no go since you don't have the technology to make it.
But you could do a railroad which is far less invasive to the environment and faster to make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000983
That's what I got
From earlier:
>>19969297
>>19974198
>>19974850
From his post:
>I am/was the /rrat/ rep
>Needless to say I got some disingenous assertions on my motive...and had to re-explain my stance. a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000776
Kronii here. Please no, they keep taking over entire threads with your map autism, contain yourselves here if you please.

Sincerely, fuck off and die forever, we just want to watch vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001105
>Kronii is /here/ confirmed
Based, I love this sexy gook.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20001059
Yes, definitely.
>>20001061
Yesterday there was a ton of compplaints about railroads before we even thought to propose it as an alternative.. Either way, we won't do anything /risu/ doesn't want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000924
>>20001090
/rrat/ tried to keep pushing for infinity to move their island even after everyone told him it was a retarded idea and not to restart the timeloop given the incredible damage the last time it was attempted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001105
Hey Kronii. Love your tits.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20001105
KRONIIIIIIIIIIIIII LET ME KISS YOUR CHEEK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20000944
I had a question about /infinity/. How committed are you guys to being a "trading hub" ? I'm not saying you should move because I don't think you should but your island makes being a major trading hub a complete implausibility. Its just a incredibly implausible thing to set up given the size of your population and island location. Even assuming the canal happened ( I know no one is really advocating for it now ) there is no reason for most nations to go there because of how far away it is. Is just being traders the goal or being a trading hub? I just can't see why other traders would go there to trade none /infinity/ specific goods but I could see how /infinity/'s traders are able to trade wares far and wide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001150
he was pushing for a final decision since the discussion was dropped when the GM left. We even had a "wtf happened" post in the OP for a bit that was eventually removed without a true solution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001090
I don't know what to get from that. Is it my fault for saying "fuck off"?

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20001194
not at all. very few of us wanted to be a trading hub. i guess i could poll them now that we're not isolationist, but as far as i can tell we dont want to be a trading hub, we just want to be able to trade and trade easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001194
You know what is a trading hub?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001194
Not a Kronie, but I disagree. Don't forget the planet is round, the right side goes to the left. Kronie island is in a better position to trade with the western continent than most of the Hololands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19968394
So uh, opinions on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001252
Thats true I was thinking about that but at the same time I assume there is also alot of open ocean there which given the lack of any landmass would make it also very dangerous but that is the direction they'd be most viable for
>>20001246
no unfortunately I'm a dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001272
Anon sent this to me last thread and I think it's pretty based.
https://rentry.org/buk5e

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001150
>/rrat/ tried to keep pushing for infinity to move their island
and thus historic revisionism starts, how many times do people have to explain it >>19974496
It was finalization since your evidence and records were crap

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20001332
i apologize this keeps happening to you, /rrat/ man

[Anonymous No.]

Im sad that these two islands just got redacted

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001296
Deadbeats are mercantile people.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread stresses me, not a good sign. I might quit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001272
It seems like a battery is the direction we're going with. If traditional fossil fuels exist then there's no need for chuubanite to be combustible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19999880
by the god empress restrain yourself you old man.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20001364
had the same thought for a whiel because of falseflaggers and schizos. but they're just that, falseflaggers and schizos. we can't let them scare us out.
hopefully you don't leave, who ever you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001359
But the Kronies also got called Jews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001332
>Original anon comes up with a compromise for the sitution
>/ratt/ fag clearly says he's trying to re-litigate the island's potion and then tries to use the 'some people say' to deny he's the one pushing it.
>>19970441
Revisionism eh?

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>20001448
shut the fuck up, now YOU'RE restarting the timeloop.

the /rrat/ is just talking about things others talked about

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001359
Deadbeats are also fucking gay
>>20001445
so have deadbeats. During one of the loreposts one of the posters was actually pushing for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001481
And then kept pushing it when no one else wanted to hear it. It's his fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001496
Yeah, that was the joke.
Gonna steal that watame, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001496 (me)
>so have deadbeats. During one of the loreposts one of the posters was actually pushing for it
A poster responding to the lore posts was I mean. I see the way I wrote that was really unclear

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001496
We have done literally nothing wrong here

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

ignore the schizo trying to restart timeloops and blaming others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001538
Well, I'm definitely gay for my boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001448
>Neutralfag is not neutral
>/rrat/ recorder is not honest
stay kronie by kronies

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001571
>Wanting to do intimate things with your boy
Thats fucked up, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001610
It's not my fault, this reaper is too much of a dork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001679
Ya/my boy is pretty fucking perfect its true

[Anonymous No.]

>>20001448
English isn't your strong suite huh. It's resettle since the previous settlement was inconclusive, kronies, on record, chased the guy off. Now the 2nd guy who picked it up got chased off. At least there's a record now.
Stay in your thread and talk to your rep

[Anonymous No.]

New thread: >>20002446

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977575
Thanks, I can now actually continue working on the area