/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>all the vtubers are already dropping it
what happened? is this the shortest lived fotm game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
iirc fromsoft only gave them x amount of hours to stream it that had to be pre-approved.

Less they dropped it, more their weird need to ask permission and fromsoft being stupid as fuck made them drop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
it's a bad game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Mori is playing it right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
retard, my wife Yorumi is currently playing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941227
>iirc fromsoft only gave them x amount of hours to stream it that had to be pre-approved.
>Mori already over 20 hours and streaming right now
>Ina has 12 hours and has literally 3 days scheduled for it (Friday, Saturday, and Sunday)
>Irys has over 10 hours and a (potential) stream on the 14th
>Noel has 33 hours streamed
>Kiara has 11 hour streamed
>Gura isn't worth mentioning because she only streamed for like 3 hours and sounded bored the whole time, personally convinced that was FotM bait
I am 99% sure this is just a schizo rrat based on Kiara (the first corpo chuuba to stream it afaik) talking about only having X hours to play, but it very easily could have (and in retrospect almost certainly did) referred to her having an IRL appointment or some other non-streaming commitment.

[Anonymous No.]

Permissions, long as fuck, difficult, easy to get lost, and then you have to deal with chat back seating for everything.
I can't blame them. Most of them aren't going to look up a guide and find out how to become absurdly broken either so you get everyone playing melee which is like hard mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941519
not to mention nijisnaji streamers like hayama and kuzuha often played it for 12 hours straight

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941565
One of Noel's is literally a 10 hour marathon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Can't be monetized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941598
Weak, Hayama did 24 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
I literally watched vtubers that I've never ever watched just to see them play this game, best game ever

[Anonymous No.]

take an entire stream just to beat a single boss. yeah dropping that shit after a weak was the best decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941641
He meant it in a way of saying Hololive streamers can play pretty long as well. Not in a Hololive vs Nijisanji way. There shouldn't even be a Hololive vs anyone discussion, they make everybody look like 2views.

[Anonymous No.]

Blessed if your oshi likes this game, Elden Ring is the ultimate vtuber game. Having an oshi is all about cheering them on as they improve themselves, and that's what Elden Ring is about too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
My wife will play it after she finish Demon Souls

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941705
tryhard shitters who wasted entire stream on the Tree Sentinel which is clearly optional are better off getting filtered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
hololive cant monetize it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942082
From's entire fucking design philosophy is for you to tryhard, you twat. That's literally the driving force behind the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
why isn't Vox streaming Elden Ring again, isnt he supposed to be the resident From Soft enthusiast

[Anonymous No.]

The game has the most obtuse and atrocious quest system ever. I am unironically locked of an ending and late game areas because one goddamn npc won't show up. For real, this sucks AF

[Anonymous No.]

It's punishingly difficult

It's like when several vtubers tried picking up DMC series games and realized much too late you need to learn a lot, very quickly, or suffer for the entire playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942149
tell that to the retards who complains about the game being too hard (subsequently dropping it) when all they've been doing was bashing their heads against a wall

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942121
Neither can Nijisanji. Kuzuha has been playing like 80 hours of it without superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941565
>>19941641
I find it hilarious a nijinipple says this and yet nijinipples have the gall to go around and say "why do holobronies have to make everything hololive vs nijisanji? god, rent free" kek. The complete lack of self awareness

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
most can't even get past the first boss. The only one that was good at these games was Rushia. Noel tries but takes like a full year per game and the streams are nothing but her dying to a boss a million times.

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>>19942370

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Elden Ring's lore was a disappointing mess and President Sunday pointed it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942017
dyrbi

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942704
Yes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942721
>>19942704
also!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942721
What a fucking hipster lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942218
Now you know for your next playthrough, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942807
>next playthrough
Yikes. This game does not deserve another play through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942682
>President Sunday
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941262
>it's a bad game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942721
>>19942752
she will never finish demon souls

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941519
>Kiara (the first corpo chuuba to stream it afaik)
Not even close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942218
Is this your first fromsoft game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
It's a longass game, maybe that's why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942149
Game is designed for you to explore around and rewards you for doing it. If you clear areas consistently before going jumping into bosses you will be consistently slightly overleveled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942357
So?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
They're not allowed to enable superchats so it's kind of pointless to stream as a job unless you're absolutely obsessed with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
It's one of the best game to expiriance and play.
I wouldn't say it's nessesary good for streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941519
Holy Holobrony...
Good thing EOP will never enjoy Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19943079
It's genuinely the weakest fromsoft game, even DS2 is better

[Anonymous No.]

>>19948318
sekiro is worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>19950665
That's fair, I should have said "worse soulslike"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Rikka is still playing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19950665
Sekiro is literally the best second only to ds1

[Anonymous No.]

>>19950665
Sekiro was the most refreshing thing they did in the past 10 years what on earth are you niggers talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19950882
>>19950843
Gameplay is MGR but worse, story is not great, monster design is not good except for a few ones, characters are not that good. Geni, Ishin and Gorilla are great, the rest is not that good

[Anonymous No.]

I think most of them are intimidated by the difficulty and not being able to make dosh from it seals the deal. Despite that, there are still some grinders in niji and holopro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19950940
Sorry but Sekiro was easily one of their strongest games. I'm awful at parries in ds but found sekiro to be insanely fun to play. Anyone who says elden ring isn't their weakest game clearly hasn't played it yet either. The entire mob/boss structure is uninspired as fuck and lazy as hell. Ontop of everything one shotting you if you don't invest all your stats early on into 40 vigor and like 20+ endurance. Even then you'll get oneshot by things you can barely dodge because everything in the game is on crack cocain and has either insanely delayed attacks with weird timing or insanely fast moves that combo into combos into combo and they never get off your ass. Good luck wanting to play mage since your best spells are like 50/70int and well.

>triple bosses
They literally deserve death for this as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
The vtubers are casuls, git gud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
No monetization, might as well just play off-screen if you like it, unless your audience really demands it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19951199
>complaining about difficulty
unironically git gud faggot. better yet, get yourself some moonveil/mimic tear/sword of night and flame/bloodhound curved greatsword/hoarfrost stomp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19951199
>Sorry but Sekiro was easily one of their strongest games.
It really wasn't, they peaked with DS1, mostly because part of what makes the souls formula work is not knowing everything, so they can't keep doing the same game. This is why in Elden Ring everything has rollcatcher and delayed attacks, if they didn't people would easily get bored of roll + R1. But mixing up the formula means making worse gameplay. DS3 already started on that road, ER was worse

>Good luck wanting to play mage since your best spells are like 50/70int and well.
What are you talking about? Pebble and rock sling are the best spells. Same with faith, catch flame is by far the best spell

Something you also failed to mention: ER is going even stronger in the "PVP fights". In DS3 there were a few and they were terrible (Halflight, Vilhelm), now there are just too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941519
Gura mentioned only getting 3 hours for it and also that she wanted to schedule more time for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Most of them are casuals, to the point that is almost impossible to resist backseating them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19943777
True, NijiEN is for mandarin speakers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19951900
I will because you clearly missed the part about what made souls games fun. I wasn't blind bullshit difficulty. It was FAIR challenging fights that were engaging and fun to do. A lot of shit in the game isn't hard, its mindless bullshit. The fact I have to use a stupid clutch like moonveil because every fight has bullshit in it isn't fun.

>>19951920
Pebble is the best in the perfect world of delusions were the only thing that matters is fp effeciency. It doesn't matter and you rarely manage to run out of juice. You haven't played with much magic if you think those are the best and same with faith. Example of barely "best" in textbook but in practise rarely worth using. The high req spells are way better to use in every situation than pebble. Rock sling is good but generally slow and you'd be better off using comet later or or stars of ruin.

>pvp fights
Don't get me started on the entire every npc type mob will perfectly dodge every single spell cast in the game unless you catch them in the middle of some other animation. Which is rare for er because every mob in the game is super aggressive so they'll try their damn hardest to ensure every animation is in your face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19951199
>Ontop of everything one shotting you if you don't invest all your stats early on into 40 vigor and like 20+ endurance.
anon, I think the problem here might just be you

[Anonymous No.]

It seems like you guys are having a little bit of trouble in this thread. let me help:

Sekiro > Bloodborne > Dark Souls > Elden Ring > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3

Also, they're all good games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941952
Based. Watching Noel struggling through this game has been wonderful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952490
Its a pretty discussed thing about the game anon that everything in the game does really high damage. You can have 40-60 vigor and still be oneshot by some bosses that aren't even endgame. Most of said moves aren't even slow telegraphed moves its fast attacks that sometims can be hard to avoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952439
I've finished a playthrough with magic. Stars of ruin sucks, comet doesn't do enough damage and is too long to set up outside of the physik flask trick that work for certain bosses. Rock sling staggers bosses as lot and for PVP enemies it fucks with their AI. It also does a lot of damage with the meteorite staff. I also forgot about carian slicer which is probably the best short range spell

>The high req spells are way better to use in every situation than pebble
They are not actually, they're nice for PVP to trick people or whatever but for regular gameplay carian slicer, rock sling and pebble is literally all you need. Add the dark moon, terra magicus and comet azur if you want a bit of variety. Lusat staff in right hand, meteorite and glintblade/carian (I forgot which one boosts carian slicer) in left and you're done

>Don't get me started on the entire every npc type mob will perfectly dodge every single spell cast in the game unless you catch them in the middle of some other animation. Which is rare for er because every mob in the game is super aggressive so they'll try their damn hardest to ensure every animation is in your face.
Which is why you spam rock sling

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952555
I liked ds3 a little bit more than ds2 and never played sekiro but otherwise I agree with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942454
Noel has the best Souls playthroughs. She never gives up and always goes for a meme STR build with a mace, if available. No summons either, that shit is for casuals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952555
Swap Dark Souls and Sekiro, and then swap Sekiro and Dark Souls 3 and you have the actual list

[Anonymous No.]

If you’re going to discuss video games at least do it in >>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952761
report the thread, nerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>19948318
>>19950665
Some of the worst opinions I have ever seen. ED easily ranks among the top, as does Sekiro. The only low point in FROM's catalog is DS2, with DS3 being their least remarkable outing otherwise.
I would sincerely have trouble ranking DeS, DS1, ER, BB and Sekiro, as they're all excellent titles that brought something new to the formula. (With DeS being the one that started it all.)
People who disliked Sekiro are simply plebs who wanted another Souls-clone like DS3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952555
I would put Elden Ring above DS1 because the second half isn't blatantly unfinished and DS3 above DS2 because it isn't a mess of a game stitched together with horrible level design, but I can agree with your ranking

[Anonymous No.]

>>19951996
but then she dropped it to play sekiro off stream instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952555
Dark Souls > Elden Ring > Dark Souls 3 > Sekiro > Dark Souls 2 > Bloodborne/Demon Souls (Fuck PS exclusivity)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952946
>ED easily ranks among the top
It really doesn't, the gameplay is just not good enough. Funny that you complain about people wanting a souls-like clone and love Elden Ring too.

>People who disliked Sekiro are simply plebs who wanted another Souls-clone like DS3.
Not really, Sekiro lacked variety in the gameplay. It's like the bastard child of Dark souls and MGR/DMC, and not as good as any of them.

>>19952984
>I would put Elden Ring above DS1 because the second half isn't blatantly unfinished
Half of the quests just mysteriously never finish, the zones after the capital are not great, 75% of the bosses are boring but it's not blatantly unfinished?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941262
Based
Played every other From game, Elden Ring takes the absolute piss

[Anonymous No.]

>>19953286
Why are you comparing flashy combo oriented character action games like MGR/DMC as if its the same type of game as Sekiro? Because it has surface level similarities such as the parrying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19953763
Because they're close in terms of gameplay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19953790
They really aren't at all man

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
I still remember the week before its release, some nijien bros saying they would be enjoying their Elden Ring week, while holoen would play minecraft. What happened, bros? The hype is dying and Luca is still the only one who played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19953845
This is the best time to insert their ''variety'' cope hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>19953790
Not really, you dont need to parry in MGR unless its a boss fight. The free aim cutting mechanic is also just a gimmick that is only really used in boss fights. In Sekiro you need to parry in every combat encounter, even low level mobs. While you can kill enemies with direct HP damage, its slow, and clearly the game is designed for you to build up posture damage with deflects, mikiri, and jump counter to get the deathblow.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never seen anyone compare Sekiro to MGR or DMC before. I've played all of those games and they seriously could not be more different. I would sooner compare DMC or MGR to a Musou game than Sekiro

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952555
Ghost of Tsushima > Dark Souls > Sekiro > Demon's Souls > Bloodborne > Elden Ring > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>19953957
You do need to parry in MGR against trashmobs if you want to not have dogshit fights, I'm not sure what you're talking about. The difference between filling a posture bar or reducing an HP bar is also not that big

>>19954091
What would you compare it to then? It's not exactly a souls-like as you have no weapon variety at all. You could argue that it's a more extreme take on bloodborne (even less weapons but they're "more unique", silver bullets/spirit emblems) but the game doesn't really plays like bloodborne, you have way more mobility

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942211
>>19953845
Because Vox and the rest of NijiEN boys are manwhores first and gamerbros last. Unlike Kuzuha, Kanae, Ibrahim or even Hajime (who just finished his first run) who streams and enjoys the game even without the superchats, these EN faggots would rather play it theselves first and stream later only to flex.

[Anonymous No.]

The balance of Elden Ring is attrocious. If you play it normally you get your ass handed to you harder than any eldersoulsborne game, if you use the wiki to find OP combinations for every build like bleed katanas, barricade shield, and where to obtain the strongest magics, you can quite easily do every boss first try even without leveling your weapons or character past the intended amount.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Vtubers are disproportionately women, and women are bad at video games

[Anonymous No.]

>>19948318
>the best game is better
you don't say

[Anonymous No.]

Luna has said she's not really interested in Elden Ring because it looks like artificial difficulty

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954289
This is literally every fromsoft game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954330
>artificial difficulty
tf does that even mean? haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952946
I disliked Sekiro because it has absolutely no replayability. Souls games have a metric fuckton of different weapons and spells which gives makes them really replayable. Sekiro has... a bunch of prosthetics that are useless outside of their gimmick fights and a handful of skills 90% of which are trash. Every playthrough is the same. That alone puts it at the bottom for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954150
>What would you compare it to then?
The Souls games and Bloodborne. The control scheme is very similar, the lock-on mechanic works exactly the same as it does in those games, you dodge in a very similar way that you do in Bloodborne, the level design is very Souls-like but with added platforming and a little bit of sneaking around, the art design and mood of the game is obviously in line with those games, they were directed and developed by a lot of the same people... I'm not really seeing what's so hard to get about that comparison.
It doesn't have the weapon variety or levelling system present in those games, but it is clearly much more similar to those games than a pure action game with explicit levels like the Devil May Cry games and MGR

>>19954289
>this game is challenging, but if you read a walkthrough the game is a cakewalk
revelatory post you just wrote there anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954435
The game is actually fine with infinite spirit emblems, the problem is not the prosthetics, it's the spirit emblem limit

>>19954493
That's why I said it's a mix between Dark Souls (more bloodborne actually) and MGR/DMC. Its not exactly any of those games but it's clearly a mix

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954204
>who streams and enjoys the game even without the superchats
Or they really just want to stream to farm supas, fuck those games where they need to turn off their SCs hahaha. Even in SC-reading streams they turn it on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954289
I'm having an OK time using a Nightrider Glaive with heavy armor, a greatbow, and a greatshield (I can still midroll which is kind of crazy). Not using magic or ashes. Blocking in general is powerful in this game, and greatshields can deflect attacks, creating punishable openings, even with bosses.

I think the very specific "hard mode" is just dual-wielding (or two-handing) an ultra greatsword, which is shocking to some because of how viable that was in previous titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942211
Because he needs to turn of Superchats to play it, that's a no-no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954374
It was never like this, the only way to make the game easy other than some magic in only a few fights was overleveling your character. Elden Ring is the first fromsoft game that you don't need to get good to beat without overleveling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
>fomo bait
what an absolute schizo phrase to mean they tried a game and not all of them liked it. Is it so unbelievable that some of them gave it a shot for a stream and then realized the game was hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954579
Imagine... playing for 4-6 hours without akas, he'll have a seizure

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954536
Its as a mix of those games as much as any game where you can jump is a mix of mario

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954536
I really do not see where the DMC comparison comes from in particular; it feels nothing like those games at all. I can see how you would compare MGR to it since you parry attacks with a katana in both games, but they really don't have any similarities outside of that superficial similarity. We might as well say that Sekiro is like Souls with a dash of Soul Calibur II if we're going to make that kind of comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954664
The game is way more action-oriented and way less RPG than the souls, I don't see what's so hard to understand about that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954536
HOW are you running out of spirit emblems lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954700
If you want to use the prosthetics exclusively it's hard to kill most bosses with only 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941641
Some vtuber started streaming at release and lasted until the day before yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954614
what I don't understand about whining that they start a game and then don't finish it is that /vt/ also incessantly bitches about talents who play 8+ streams to beat a game. I've honestly never seen a split for any talent where the fanbase agreed "ah yes, she played the CORRECT amount of the game." There's always bitching no matter what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954695
I don't really agree with that either. You don't have as much flexibility in traditional stat-based RPG sense, but you do have a skill tree in Sekiro. The Souls games aren't very heavy on RPG aspects to begin with. You are still presented roughly the same level of player agency and roleplaying in both games, you just have many more possible character builds in the Souls games

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954330
>Luna
she never said that. She said everyone is doing elden so she doesn't feel like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
>implying that vtubers ever finish a game that isn't jump king

[Anonymous No.]

How do you niggers even play these games, they are boring as fuck. I watched my oshi play it for 7 hours and it was watchable only because it was her. If I caught any other chuuba playing this shit I would literally die of boredom 20 minutes in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954845
>You don't have as much flexibility in traditional stat-based RPG sense, but you do have a skill tree in Sekiro.
The skill tree is what reminds me of more action oriented games like MGR or DMC

>roughly the same level of player agency and roleplaying in both games
Not exactly, since you play a predefined character. Sure in the end you end up doing mostly the same thing as in souls (a few endings), but the roleplaying isn't the same when playing Sekiro or when playing your custom character in a souls

>you just have many more possible character builds in the Souls games
Which is why I'm saying the game has some MGR/something DNA in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19943092
She already beat Maneaters and Flamelurker, she basically has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954979
The trick is to actually play the game instead of watching people play it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954997
this is true, hence why I don't understand how anyone isn't a clipfag. How is anyone autistic enough to sit through an entire fucking stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954981
I'm not trying to insult you here, but have you actually played Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Rising? Did you beat any of those games?
The developers said themselves that they drew inspiration from Tenchu and Nazo no Murasame Jou when making Sekiro

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954979
>I watched my oshi play it for 7 hours
How can you watch 7 hours of anything in a row

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955067
>I'm not trying to insult you here, but have you actually played Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Rising? Did you beat any of those games?
Yes

>The developers said themselves that they drew inspiration from Tenchu and Nazo no Murasame Jou when making Sekiro
Never played any of those games. My point isn't "DMC/MGR are the main inspiration", my point is that the game plays like a mix between regular dark souls and these games

[Anonymous No.]

>>19954979
Its fun relating to my own experience of the game, especially the struggle against harder bosses, seeing how the gears slowly fall into place and the moment of celebration when they finally defeat the boss

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955059
I watch every stream while doing something on the side, it helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955127
I still disagree, speaking as someone who really likes all three of those games. They do not feel similar to me and I don't see any design choices in Sekiro that echo either of those other two games

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942149
>I'm a moron who doesn't understand the game
Let's see from the first Dark Souls:

There are two ways from Firelink Shrine after the tutorial, one has shitty hollows, the other has reassembling skeletons. If you pick the latter and get BTFO, that's on you, but it's also not impossible and has amazing rewards like the Bass Cannon, the Great Scythe, access to early Fire weapon, the rite of Kindling

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955371
Meanwhile in Elden ring you explore, open a chest and get ingredients for a craft system you don't use

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952439
>FAIR challenging fights that were engaging and fun to do.
Bait, but I'll bite.
In what way are the first Capra demon or the bed of chaos any less bullshit than enemies delaying the release of their swing so you can't just slam the roll button whenever they twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955445
You're missing out. There's some fun, underrated shit in the crafting menu that you unlock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
bc its a garbage game. the "open world" design is a total mess and the bosses are pure trash. especially radahn.

they are nowhere near sekiros bosses like inner ones. the boss concept is like super mario 1 with enemies that attack you a touhou danmaku way. absolutely unpolished "hard" game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955759
Not that anon, but I'll 100% agree the Bed of Chaos was absolute fucking cancer. What was the issue with the Capra Demon, though? If he didn't spawn with two dogs, he'd be a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19952555
Absolutely patrician list, though I would personally put Elden ring at the top. Ds3 earns its spot at the bottom for shit game balance made worse by listening to Reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
>>all the vtubers
Nice hyperbole you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>19942752
she’s probably gonna go in this order
Demon’s Souls > DS1 > Get terminated by 2434 > DS3 > ER

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956084
DS2... Bloodborne...

[Anonymous No.]

I like the Souls games a lot. I'm also very excited for the new Armored Core.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956164
I've never played the armored core but they look fun

[Anonymous No.]

i see shazzam trannies gave up on converting /v/ and are now moving on to /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19955821
The issue with Capra is that he spawns the 2 fucking dogs in his deluxe Japanese apartment in a game with a shit camera.
Don't get me wrong I love the Capra fight because it's bullshit, like much of ds1. I suspect the people complaining about Elden ring are shutters who were hoping for dark rolls 3 2: Elden Boogaloo and got an actually good game instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
Worst game from fromsoft yet. Melina was not there 90% of the time. I went with fia but I got cuck by a corpse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956336
>shazzam trannies
What's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19941158
It's hard, and if the chuuba isn't enjoying it it isn't good content

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956164
I'm hoping they port the older games to PC before the new one comes out, but after playing Elden ring I'm excited to see what they do with armored core after a decade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956398
mentally ill discord group that shits up /v/ trying to convince them that elden ring is a bad game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956336
what the fuck is a "shazzam tranny"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956490
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956490
dude why are you reading /v/ in 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>19956398
>>19956500
nta but

Cynical people who like seeing highly anticipated games crash and burn, Cyberpunk being their favorite game for this reason.

Elden Ring actually delivered on expectations, so they did not receive the feelings of schadenfreude they desperately wanted

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>>19942860
Then its your fault for playing a game that isn't ment for you retard.

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>>19956490
>>19956530
>>19956556
Okay, I'll change my tune to not be associated with those people then. Elden Ring is everything I wanted it to be, but I'm mentally stuck on Ringed city so it was hard for me to appreciate the story and bosses compared to that

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>>19941519
>Mori hates streaming
also
Mori already over 20 hours and streaming right now

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>>19956490
I see well get fucking good shazzam trannies kek

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Unless they really get hooked into it, From permissions mean they can't turn on SuperChats so from a financial standpoint if it's the kind of game that doesn't click with you right away it makes sense for you to move on from it to games where you can monetize more efficiently.

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>>19941158
Isn't Noel, Mori, and Ina constantly playing it? Ina has 2 Elden Ring streams scheduled this weekend.

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>>19941519
radahn shit will be the turning point. im sure noel will autistically beat him but idk bout the others. they might summon other players to trash him though.

elden ring is an unpolished stupid chuuni game but compared to nioh 2 its still not so broken. afaik hayama beat it a straight way without cheating or cheat tool tier weapons/armors but even she struggled hard with the game. noel beat nioh 1 but she hasnt touched nioh 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Elden Ring sucks shit

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>>19957910
Your supposed to utilize your resources in this game. It isnt Dark souls, or Blood born, or Sekiro, this may shock you, but this is Elden Ring. If you choose to be a melee only build that doesnt use their resources, then you can't complain about the difficulty. This game realistically was never going to be as tight as their linear titles, however the game makes up for it with everything else. Too me, its like Blood Born, where most the bosses are weak in comparison to other titles, but the level desighn, and standard enemys are what you play it for. I'd say all of Froms titles, too me, are all great, but have different focuses.

[Anonymous No.]

niggers all of you

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>>19941158
>Fake gamers dropping a difficult game
Not surprised, they will go back to casual garbage

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>>19958052
We get it, you dont like the game that every one else dose. You are very cool, and we should all disregard our own opinions. Should I add more to your picture?
>>19956530

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When I watched the gameplay video that they showed of Elden Ring I was like "Hmm, seems like Souls Megamix. Hmm."
But then I played it and I was like "WOW this is like Souls Megamix!"

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>>19958230
The legacy dungeons are pretty good but the open world has obviously caused a drop in quality and reused assets. I swear I've fought like 7 ulcerated tree spirits

[Anonymous No.]

souls games sucks ass to watch, and its fanatic gigaso1s would rather play it than watch

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>>19958329
I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY SOLD THIS SHITFEST FOR $60!! That's about how much it costs for a video game console, pretty much. You could take $60, stand on a bridge, and just throw it all away! You'd rather do anything then spend it on a broken down, dysfunctional disaster of video game programming, with games that crash, hideous jumping control, random characters, microscopic sprites, a marathon of mediocre space shooters, dying in mid-air, problems with proportion, misleading titles, misleading power-ups, embarrassing weapons, seizure-inducing backgrounds, lack of enemies, games you can't win, games you can't lose, games that make no sense whatsoever, shitty graphics, shitty music, shitty menus, and a fuckton of other things!

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>>19952620
I've played through the game with a mage build using a soreseal, and only hitting decent vit numbers (40+) near endgame. The only time I ever got truly one-shot or combo'd to death was when I went into areas too high level for me - like going to Caelid before going to Liurnia of the Lakes

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>>19958230
the basic combat mechanism is exactly that of souls games. it hasnt changed since demons souls. if you are a knight or warrior or samurai, you have to endlessly roll to get close to and beat bosses. although i beat radahn by walking without rolling. my beast crest heater shield worked more.

elden ring is like the nioh 2 version of souls games. clearly not for everyone. the strong bosses resort to endless over powered combos that you cant parry.

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>>19941158
Too hard. Doesn't make for good content unless the streamer is already familiar with all the Fromsoft gimmicks. Which most of the chuubas aren't.

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>>19941262
>gets filtered
>calls it bad
kek

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>>19960159
Oh also these kinds of games attract the absolute worst armchair backseaters possible. So good riddance.

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>>19957910
Radahn has issues, but his whole area is screaming that you need to be one tough motherfucker to face him.
The true boss of Elden Ring is Preceptor Miriam. Good fucking luck if you're a melee build.

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>>19958807
>if you are a knight or warrior or samurai, you have to endlessly roll to get close to and beat bosses
As a samurai I just stomped the shit out of the bosses bro

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>>19950665
Sekiro is the best shit they did, nigger

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>>19948318
>>19950665
Both of you are fucking retards.

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>>19961766
Sekiro is very good for a sidegame but the lack of builds or rpg mechanics puts it firmly behind everything else other than Bloodborne.
Unless we're counting the weird games From made long ago.

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>>19961840
>Unless we're counting the weird games From made long ago.
Wowee, bad opinion

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>>19960346
I got so feed up with chasing that faggot that I pulled out the poison arrows and bleeds. I even baited em so I can get a few melee hits in.

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>>19961840
People generally make the difference between souls-like and not souls-like, unless you want to start comparing dark souls to armored core or soemthing

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>>19961919
Sekiro > Shadow Tower Abyss
I will die on this hill.

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Pekiro
Danchou Ring
Yep right now that's all I need in life.

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>>19960159
I really like IRyS' play of it even though this is her first From title. She learns pretty quickly and genuinely seems to enjoy it
Noel is already a given since she loves all Souls-likes. She already promised she'll finish the game on stream no matter how many months it takes
Lamy's stream is also strangely entertaining with how anguished she gets

I've personally been enjoying this arc, but it's true that the game is so massive, it's doubtful anyone else other than Noel will finish it

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>>19962151
Calli will probably finish it off stream.
What about Ina? I haven't caught up to the end of her last video yet if she said anything but she seemed into it.

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>>19941320
>>19941262
Makes sense

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>>19960346
I just whipped out my "melee" Halo Scythe
But it's true that the game almost expects you to have some sort of ranged option. If you don't, you're fucked

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>>19962279
This is the 1st fromsoft game where I am actually using spells (faith). Me of all people. I never use magic PERIOD in any game. But here I am. Even the ashes of war abilities I use have ranged/magic to them.

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>>19962493
I killed the twin niggers with the marionette duo that just shot arrows at them nonstop

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So...You guys picked Ranni, right?

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>>19962208
I think she likes it, but Ina doesn't really do long series streams
She's a completionist as seen by Ender Lilies and this game is easily 100+ hours to just organically play and clear all the main bosses
Also don't see how any of them will clear Malenia with her life leech and ohko bullshit that needs a specific skill to avoid

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>>19960346
Just run past her

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>>19962536
Most people so far that actually beat the game got her ending given the achievement %. Which is odd since you need to do a quest that spans a good portion of the game to unlock it.

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>>19962624
Everything for waifu

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>>19962536
I did, I'm actually surprised by how much I felt like that quest was written "for me". Moon girl, doll joints, small doll, Blaidd and Iji. It was great

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>>19962581
>ohko bullshit that needs a specific skill to avoid
No it doesn't? Just run away for the first attack, the others are easy to roll

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>>19962493
Same, I was planning on doing fists or claws since I enjoyed them so much in Nioh 2
Now I'm a 2kat moonveil spamming caster with 50 MND and 70 INT

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>>19962624
Once you find the quest it's pretty easy to follow, plus that questline is mandatory to unlock like 3 or 4 zones

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>>19962840
I ended up forcing myself off int because power stancng the darkmoon greatsword and frost flamberge was too powerful

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>>19962778
You can't reliably dodge it if you're directly under her without bloodhound step

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>>19942218
>oh no a game has different endings where I'm not asked at the end if I want A, B or C

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>>19954428
real difficulty would be better ai from easy to hard they get an extra move or something like this room had 2 guys now it has 3
artificial is hardmode gives enemy 5x hp while everything else stays the same

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>>19962903
Why would you be directly under her? As soon as she starts doing it run away. It's not that hard to understand

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>>19941158
Elden Ring is the best fromsoft game because it makes no hit runners cry

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>>19961840
>>19950882
>>19950665
Sekiro and Souls games are very different you dumb shitters.
Sekiro is a bossrush game, you just rush from one checkpoint to the next until you find the next boss
Souls is an RPG where you just explore shit and beat shit with different builds

They're all good and you're all a bunch of dumb faggots.

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>>19963011
>Sekiro is a bossrush game, you just rush from one checkpoint to the next until you find the next boss
>Souls is an RPG where you just explore shit and beat shit with different builds
The main difference between the two is the build, the exploration is the same in both games

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>>19962927
Why wouldn't I be directly under her when I was just attacking her and then she immediately follows up by jumping and reving up her lawn mower

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>>19956084
That would be the ideal order, but it seems she is having a dilemma
>Play DS 1 next
>Play Bloodborne next
>Play Elden Ring Next
I will watch whatever she chose but i would prefer her to play the games on order

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>>19963123
Again, as soon as you seen her jump remove the lock on and run away, and you will avoid it 100% of the time

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>>19952620
>>19951199
How can you complain about being one-two shot by bosses when it's the same in Sekiro?
Also if you die fast, just get more HP.

>>19951920
>It really wasn't, they peaked with DS1, mostly because part of what makes the souls formula work is not knowing everything, so they can't keep doing the same game. This is why in Elden Ring everything has rollcatcher and delayed attacks, if they didn't people would easily get bored of roll + R1. But mixing up the formula means making worse gameplay. DS3 already started on that road, ER was worse
So your complain is "It's not like in DaS1"?
They didn't make it worse to trip up people, enemies react more to what you do that's why some windups take so long. They're waiting for you to fall for it.
If they kept it exactly like DaS1, people would just continue to abuse the same shit they learned in the first game.

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>>19963073
Sounds like you didn't even watch the games.
Exploration is very different.

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>>19963279
>So your complaint is "It's not like in DaS1"?
No, my complaint is that it's hard to make a game harder and harder for people that have already played DS1/2/3/bloodborne while at the same time making a game that's just good, and I don't think they totally managed to do it

>They didn't make it worse to trip up people, enemies react more to what you do that's why some windups take so long. They're waiting for you to fall for it.
This is precisely "worse to trip up people"

>If they kept it exactly like DaS1, people would just continue to abuse the same shit they learned in the first game.
Again, that's my point. They're forced to do things only to surprise players

>>19963341
What do you mean watched? I've played and finished both games. Try actually playing them before forming an opinion

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>>19963258
Well, it wasn't reliable for me
Immediately disabling lock on and bloodhound stepping away every time she warps seemed to work out better

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>>19956655
>>19956490
>>19956431
like elden ring is now anti-woke, i love you elden rang

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>>19963432
With just the dagger weapon art you can dodge her 100% of the time. It's a boss that takes practice but it's not impossible. My theory is that Melania was scaled like a DLC boss, she's the Orphan/Manus/Friede of this game. That makes me wonder if they will actually do a DLC, I feel like the game already as enough content to not need one but who knows

>>19963464
Woke "people" are bucket crabs and have always been, this is not surprising that they hate Elden Ring

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>>19941262
This

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>>19941158

Shit numbers because everyone is streaming it
Shit numbers because so many people are playing instead of watching
Shit numbers because people are avoiding spoilers

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>>19963420
>This is precisely "worse to trip up people"
Not really. Now you have to actually wait for the attack to come out and dodge instead of doing it as soon as the animation for an attack starts. Again, they react to the player and not just blindly flail around.
>They're forced to do things only to surprise players
So your point is that sequels should always be the same?
You know what, those are just 3x "it's different now"
Had the same shit happen when DaS2 and DaS3 released. No point in that, it won't go anywhere.

>What do you mean watched?
Exploration is very different in both games. I already explained it.
There isn't even a point to explore in Sekiro because it's about going from one boss to the next. There isn't even much to explore and honestly, just a waste of time.
That doesn't mean the game is bad or it's a flaw, it's just a different kind of game

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>>19960194
Really milking that "You don't like a game so you must be bad at it" strawman, huh? There are a number of reasons why this watered down Dark Souls isn't worth playing but you won't hear them until it's popular to have that opinion. Why try to make the controversial 4chan your circlejerk when that's what Reddit was made for?

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>>19963551
I feel like she was 100% scaled with summons in mind
I whipped out a mimic tear and was able to essential kill her without too much trouble, but decided I wanted to beat her without it. That took me 6+ hours

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>>19953826
>"They really aren't at all man"
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves

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>>19963728
Aren't the numbers good?
Botan got 31k+ and Lamy got 26k+ CCV on their respective streams

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>>19963877
A lot of fights feel like they're made with summons in mind .Mimic Tear is busted, but even having one of the weaker summons drastically changes fights like Godskin Duo

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>>19950665
>faggot seething because he can't dodge roll for the whole game

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>>19964288
The storm hawk summon (upgraded) saved my ass so many times it isn't even funny. Mimic tear needs to be nerfed. We've seen videos of streamers going to take a piss after summoning it and it kills the boss for them.