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>by claiming that Risu become a protectorate as a result of a military incursion or gunboat diplomacy
I didn't say that, in fact I specifically said this wasn't the case, reread the post. What I said was that it can be *percieved* as such.
I've told kronies before and I'll say it again, it doesn't matter what you call your actions, other nations of the world will perceive them in their own way. USA invaded however many countries in the name of freedom, and you've all seen the memes sprouting for that. This will *especially* be the case if said nation is already known to be ahead technologically, meaning they have an edge over others, meaning they are dangerous. I was and still am giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you won't attempt to expand militarily, but you're making this hard.
The argument we're pointing out, and this goes out to you specifically since you've introduced yourself as the diplomat of the negotiations, is that the immediate alternative suggestion was a protectorate. No alliance, union, border freedom etc, but instead reduction of their status.
>Also for transparency, I asked in the previous thread as well, but only got the response 'Lore"
Can you clarify this part, which previous thread?
>not only more than makes up for it
Sorry, but I disagree. You said the exact same thing about isolationism and it was written out. This point has lost most of its credibility.
>Which is now a completely moot point with the introduction of magic and Chuubanite.
Not completely, you have access to chuubanite/Vitubium we should have a vote for the name btw too, you know? What it does is help nations that are further back behind the world average age, ie 1750, have a fighting chance for survival if they write the lore for it.
>how does everyone nation already know about the canal plans?
A vessel of an unnamed nation saw your fleet of "boats of iron and smoke" approaching risu, took interest, followed you, anchored a bit after you, overheard your conversation, left after you, went to their nation/nasfaqg as their interests were in jeopardy, informed them, then informants were sent to other nations in the hopes the project gets backlash (hint: its working). Does this work for you?
>Or the fact why /∞/ constantly gets singled out for everything action they take for the crime of staying involved. When /who/ announced they took over part of /uuu/ and /uuu/ ceased to exist >>/9687899 and /cgl/ openly their declared their plans to conquer their neighbors. >>19299826 it was met with crickets.
I hope this is an honest oversight, but I would appreciate if you did not blatantly lie.
I was one of the first that argued with /who/ against their initial claim on Hoshiyomia's coastline. They worked a compromise out between them however, so I had no say in the matter. I, and I believe one or two other anons, also called them out on their expansion of land with the acquisition of /uuu/, as well as on their attempts to leech technology from both /nasa/ and /inf/.
/cgl/ I believe stated in their lore they were militaristic, unlike you who claim the opposite, and they struck a deal with one of the nations in their path. I was waiting to see the development of their plans to gauge an appropriate reaction, but I believe they haven't posted an update since. They may have been dissuaded by the amount of timeloops caused by certain posters, may ring a bell, or, well, clock.
>Consistency would be nice
I once again implore you to think about the things you post, and the specific wording you use. This line can be interpretated as you asking for leniency against you as your percieved lenient treatment of other nations. However, it can also mean that you are asking the thread to be as restrictingly harsh against everyone else's suggestions as the percieved harshness against you, and it is the latter point shitposters will use to go to other threads and blame you for aggression against them, like what happened with /yeah/, not to mention it would make you look like children throwing a tantrum.
I've repeated previous posts of myself a lot in this one post, not sure if you've been ignoring them or just forgot. In any case, let me clear up one more thing, again:
The shitstorms caused during the island timeloops, no matter if you are blaming a (couple of) schizos or not, have tanked your credibility. You are supposed to be building it back up. Removing isolationism, one of your key arguments on why your island is where it is today that you were defending during the timeloop period, from your lore, only further damages your credibility. Then you have the gal to say you are being unfairly treated. Please, look a bit inwards instead of shifting all the blame on others.