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History fags get in here. Top 15 most influential Vtubers in History. What are your thoughts?

My List:
1. Kizuna Ai
2. Kaguya Luna/Pmaru
3. Shirakami Fubuki
4. Inugami Korone
5. Usada Pekora
6. Gawr Gura
7. Coco Kiryu
8. Tsukino Mito
9. Minato Aqua
10. Houshou Marine
11. Mori Calliope
12. Hoshimachi Suisei
13. Sakura Miko
14. Tokino Sora
15. Kuzuha

>> No.19806467

>>19806275
who are #'s 2, 8, and 15

>> No.19806514

>>19806275
1. Gawr Gura
2. Kizuna Ai
>3 don't care

>> No.19806519

>>19806467
Really nigger?

>> No.19806549

>>19806275
Tokino Sora? Really?
She's just a mascot.

>> No.19806560
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>>19806275
Why is Senzawa not listed? She had a lot of mainstream crossover success with some of her songs

>> No.19806564

>>19806467
>>>/out/

>> No.19806595

Ironmouse over some of the literal whos in that list

>> No.19806626

No peanuts-kun? No eileen family? No nekomata hinata? Half of the 4 heavenly kings are missing You fucking holobaby newfags

>> No.19806681

>>19806275
mito is third you retard

>> No.19806704

>>19806275
Put Coco at top 3 then we're good

>> No.19806771

Pewdiepie

>> No.19806822

>>19806626
Face it old man history has long been forgotten anything before hololive didnt exist. Yagoo created the universe and the world itself

>> No.19806858

>ITT contrarians saying their literal who chuubas are "more influential" than the popular holos that dominate the industry

>> No.19806890

>>19806275
>no eilene

you are a colossal faggot
+sage

>> No.19806936

>>19806858
without eilene holograffiti wouldn't have existed and miko wouldn't even be in hololive btw.

also she was the very first vtuber

>> No.19807016

>>19806549
nigger without sora hololive is non-existent

>> No.19807117

>>19806275
Since this is a list and not a ranking, I can kind of agree with this

>> No.19807204

>>19806549
and without Mickey Mouse, Disney is nothing. What is this retard thinking

>> No.19807205

IF X CHUUUUBA NEVER EXIST THEN NO BODY ELSE WOULD EVER CONNECT DA DOTS TO DO SOME THING SIMILAR, YOU DONT GET IT U HAV 2 RESPECT OLD SCHOOL CHUBAR, IRREPLACEABLE

>> No.19807258

>>19806858
Wow you are literally dumber than a blm protester

>> No.19807259

>>19806275
That's not top 15 most influential Vtubers in History, that's just your fav holo+extra list. Does calli, suisei, aqua, etc bring something different in vtuber community? does their impact bring huge change in vtuber community? lurk more holobronies

>> No.19807313

>>19807205
>11 year old dorito soaked brown seanig fingers typed this

>> No.19807383

>>19806275
>3. Shirakami Fubuki
>4. Inugami Korone
>5. Usada Pekora

>13. Sakura Miko
lol
lmao even

>> No.19807422

>>19806936
Anybody before Kizuna Ai should be disregarded. Vtuber refers to virtual youtuber which Kizuna popularized.

>> No.19807425

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5PoW7_kdA

>> No.19807456

>>19806275
>Pmaru
Not a vtuber

>> No.19807476

>>19807259
Mori and Suisei are among the best vtuber musicians, their popularity alone gives their music reach far beyond the tuber music bubble. It's likely that plenty of people were introduced to this hobby after seeing Mori top the charts in the western market, and I bet the average vtuber fan nowadays hasn't even heard of whichever influential vtubers you would put in your list.

>> No.19807493

>>19806275
>Kizuna Ai
>Kaguya Luna/Pmaru
>Tsukino Mito
>Kuzuha
literally fucking who?

>> No.19807503

>>19807016
and without kizuna ai, there is no sora. Sora was literally just a Kizuna Ai clone when she first started but the difference is, Sora's extremely boring and garbage at making entertaining content.

>> No.19807549

>>19806858
popular =/= influential you faggot. calli can graduate tomorrow and no one outside holo will give any fuck.

>> No.19807587

>>19806936
>without eilene holograffiti wouldn't have existed and miko wouldn't even be in hololive btw
are you the guy who shat up the Miko general a while ago saying Miko copied her?

>> No.19807588

>>19806275
Replace #5 to #3 and we're good, you have no idea how much of an impact on Hololive as a whole Pekora was and still is. Fubuki and Korone might have been the case a few years before, however Pekora is still as relevant as she used to be during the start of her increasing popularity during the first ARK arc with CAMP/CocoAquaMArinePekora.

>> No.19807592

>>19806275
>9. Minato Aqua
>10. Houshou Marine
>11. Mori Calliope
>12. Hoshimachi Suisei
>13. Sakura Miko
what in the absolute fuck is this order
well done with the bait OP

>> No.19807618

>>19807476
lol
Her music is garbage and she was a nobody prior to hollow live exposure, once she's done as a vtuber her audience will slowly dwindle away because no one actually enjous her music

>> No.19807621

>>19807549
LMFAO

>> No.19807631

>>19807592
its not a ranking just a list

>> No.19807663
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>>19807631
>its not a ranking
then dont put numbers

>> No.19807666

>>19807493
you literal newfag
without kizuna ai hololive and nijisanji would never existed you dumb nigger

>> No.19807688

You should replace every Hololive member that isn't Fubuki or Aqua with Hololive Moments

>> No.19807696

Man i hate these holofags

Half of these holos on the list could be erased from existence and vtubing as a whole wouldnt have changed

>> No.19807714

>>19807666
don't care I have no respect ccp boots licker

>> No.19807732

>>19807618
Bait or brainlet

>> No.19807802

>>19807503
that "clone" you were saying is literally the reason why hololive exist so you just can't discredit her just because she's "boring"

>> No.19807824

>>19807696
I mean everyone could get erased except for Kizuna Ai and we will still continue with vtubing.

>> No.19807838

Good list, anon, but I think Coco should be higher and I don't realize what Aqua and Marine did to be so influential.

>> No.19807868

>>19807802
Sorry these ESL seanigs dont understand the difference between “influencial” and “popular”

>> No.19808522

>>19806936
You make a good point

>> No.19808535

>>19807456
You should try to expand your horizons corpofag chan https://youtu.be/NxsqHhzs2S0

>> No.19808562

I must admit I know nothing about Kaguya Luna. How was she influential?

>> No.19808571

>>19806275
This thread reeks of shitty bait. It would be nice to hear what makes them influential.

>> No.19808613

>>19806275
I'd quit calli from that list but pretty accurate whatsoever

>> No.19808620

>>19808535
Unironically better production from an indie than all of holofes events combined

>> No.19808696

>>19806560
I always thought that Senzawa was a PNG tuber/streamer like LilyPichu

>> No.19808763

>>19808562
Being Loud and Noisy I guess?

>> No.19808826

Bringing in EOPs should get you removed from the list.

>> No.19808829

>>19806275
There doesn't need to be 15, here's the definitive list.
>Kizuna (The first)
>Fubuki (Original meme queen)
>Coco (shock content meme queen)
>Gura/Zawa (EN meme queen)

>> No.19808940

>>19808829
>all holo
lol

>> No.19809034

>>19808940
They're undoubtedly influential, they just happen to also be in Hololive. Go ahead and post your list if you think it's better.

>> No.19809058

>>19806275
"Influential" is such a vague term I can only believe that this is a thinly veiled bait/numbers thread.

>> No.19809079

>>19806560
As an "uitate"/memelord yes, she was influetial, even had song of the year in 2020.
But as a vtuber? Most people don't even know she streamed.

>> No.19809105

Number 1 should be vox
Look how much this board is seething at him everyday ive seen less hate for artia
Mori and nyanners

>> No.19809112

>>19807383
>>13. Sakura Miko
>lol
>lmao even
miko's GTA nigga clip was explosive in its popularity and got a lot of people on board the vtuber train

>> No.19809157

>>19808829
Original meme queen was eileen you mongrel

>> No.19809164

>>19806275
i really think BANs pioneered the indie scene in JP and myth normalized it in the west.

>> No.19809225

>>19809157
>eileen
nigga literally who?

>> No.19809226

>>19808562
making vids at a lower fps
making fun of vtubers as a whole

>> No.19809243

>>19808535
Retard. She said herself that she wasn't a Vtuber. So she doesn't belong to that list.
Friendly reminder too that Luna was an angel and PMaru is a whore

>> No.19809331

>>19809164
99% of this board doesn't know who the BANs are

>> No.19809338

what did these holos even do to shape the industry? They werent first or known for anything. What a stupid list

>> No.19809382

1. AVGN - first vtuber ever, created virtual avatars like the Shit Pickle that started the vtubing craze
2. Annoying Orange - first proper vtuber
3. DSP - creator of let's plays, online gaming and the most influential gamer and streamer in history, there would be no vtubers or streamers without him so he earns the spot
4. Mr. Metokur - one of the first vtubers ever, and the first drama vtuber
5. Ray William Johnson - first youtube millionaire and comedian, proved that you can make a lot of money from youtube by doing dumb comedy skits and commentaries, paving the way for every big company years later, including Hololive and Nijisanji

>> No.19809417

>>19809331
I only know the Kaiji lookalike and the elf

>> No.19809485

>>19809225
The one who hologra copied from and was even in one and made matsuri drink her minion’s piss

>> No.19809526

>>19809225
No ebola chan for you.

>> No.19809549

>>19809382
Homestar runner/strong bad on newgrounds came before avgb jackass

>> No.19809568

>>19806275
>Kizuna AI
Sold out to chink NFTs
Most influential...?

>> No.19809589

>>19809243
Why arryou badmouthing pmaru, trash.

>> No.19809686

The only ones I think would even qualify for the list would be
>The first chronologically
>The first mainstream one (arguably more important than the real first)
>Whoever pioneered pre recorded content and got big with it
>Whoever popularized 2D models
>Whoever popularized live streaming instead of pre recorded stuff
>Whoever broke through to the EN market and showed that it was a profitable option
Anything beyond that is just a soft form of numberfagging.

>> No.19809699

>>19809568
oh no nft and china bad
lets just throw out that she was a pioneer and gave the trend a name

>> No.19809799

https://youtu.be/K3IeMwWorlI
https://youtu.be/m3P8clTpd4A
https://youtu.be/Z9GJEjsMlQ0

>> No.19809813

>>19809699
>nft and china bad
yes

>> No.19809827

first babiniku not even listed
first AVtuber not even listed

>> No.19810124

>>19809686
You could also include stuff like first (mainstream) male, babiniku, non-humanoid vtuber, etc.

>> No.19810489

>>19809699
zhang detected

>> No.19810638

>>19810124
>Non-humanoid
Does that horsehead guy thats always with kizuners count?

>> No.19810739

>>19809243
Wtf it that tranny logic ? She has a vtuber model, she is a vtuber. It's as simple as that.
She might not want to make content usually attributed to vtubers and cattering to vtuber fans but she is became one at the moment she got that model.

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>>19806275
You forgot one

>> No.19810868

>>19809382
>forgetting LonelyGirl15 and Ask a Ninja
Fucking newfags

>> No.19810906

>>19806275
Gura and coco way lower

>> No.19810956

>>19807259
>suisei
Whether you like it or not, Suisei’s album was basically mentioned in the same breath as Ado and other mainstream JP artists. She’s crucial in the mainstream acceptance of vsingers in JP.

>> No.19810990

>>19807476
>Mori
>musician
Fucking pick one mori is a meme tier lyricist at best real musicians play musical instruments. The fuck do she play what instrument CDawgVAs skin flute sure as fuck don't count.

>> No.19811013

>>19806275
Oyabun and the four kings at the top followed by Mito, FBK, Coco, Kuzuha, Tamaki, Gura.

>> No.19811055

>>19806275
1. Twappi..
2. Torre...
3. Tower...
4. Tortellini...
5. Tokyo...
6. Towato...
7. Towaifu...
8. Towel...
9. Twap...
10. Twintower...
11. Toriyama...
12. Toi...
13. Tarantula...
14. Timbuktu...
15. Trout...

>> No.19811073

>>19809417
Because the Kaiji's guy is somewhat related to Nij now

>> No.19811133

>>19810779
I would put gamebu before Sio. That drama really defined what black company meant to chuuba fans

>> No.19811188
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>>19811055
>Toblerone isn't in the list
NGMI, Toa...

>> No.19811778

>>19810638
Baacharu is with Siro, not Ai.
And yeah, he'd be the most deserving one imo. Peanuts-kun and Virtual Gorilla would also apply.

>> No.19811937

>>19809225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3IeMwWorlI

>> No.19812058

>>19806275
I LOVE Kaguya Luna - she was my original oshi before I even knew the word - but I don't think she had that much influence. She's remembered fondly, but she didn't really impact the scene in the same way. On the list for sure, but not that high.
And obviously Mito takes the #2 slot anyway. She popularized the whole "streamer with a live2D" format. Then probably FBK as a representative of the JP push that led to Hololive's western popularity.
Gura and Kuzuha definitely need to be on there just for how popular they are, but I'd probably give them both low spots.
And BANs was enough of a big deal in the early days that, along with his current Niji connections, I'd probably include Tenkai Tsukasa/Bitou Kaiji on there somewhere as well. And maybe Baacharu? Although I never really watched him so I don't know where.
Oh, and Elaine of course, maybe as #4.

>> No.19812122

>>19807732
>t. Deadcuck

>> No.19812141

>>19810868
>Ask a Ninja
Jesus, that's a blast from the past.
Man, the 2000s/early 2010s internet and their obsession with Ninjas was so weird. Just earlier today I was reminded of Pirates vs Ninjas too.

>> No.19812188

>>19806275
Like it or not, you're going to have to include someone from VShojo, likely ironmouse.

>> No.19812189

>>19806275
1: Kizuna Ai
2: Gawr Gura
3: Kaguya Luna
4: Kiryu Coco
5: Tokino Sora
6: lmao who cares
>b-but muh 4 heavenly kings!!!!
>muh eilene family!!!!
Literally nobody gives a fuck, oldfags that are only known for being oldfags don't mean shit

>> No.19812219

>>19812188
rumao

>> No.19812222

>>19806275
Never 5get the main reason half of /pol/ posts in /vt/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn8I1JIYIrM

>> No.19812759

>>19806275
This list is shit as it does not include Amelia Watson, but it includes Gura and Mori.

>> No.19812763

>>19812189
Kaguya Luna is old fag literal who now tho

>> No.19812882

>>19806275
Eilene?

>> No.19813266

>>19812188
why would anyone choose ironmouse over nyanners or melody?

>> No.19813483

>>19812763
damn, you're right

>> No.19813951

ITT: Oldfags BTFOd by COVID being the most influential chuuba

>> No.19814029

>>19810956
>>19807476
>Mori and Suisei are among the best vtuber musicians, their popularity alone gives their music reach far beyond the tuber music bubble
by your retard logic that kamitsubaki girl should be on that list, isn't one of her song become hit on tiktok, also don't start on those le top chart bla bla bla. do you honestly believe that word from ALL names on that list carries more weight than word from shibu hal or inuyama tamaki (who i doubt even in top 10). influence is not only asserted inside your fandom but also on outside, not only on viewer but big up in industry

>> No.19814158

>>19813266
Ironmouse is Vshojo's flagship and has most outside reach. I think it's an appropriate choice. Just someone from Vshojo should be there as vtubing on twitch is pretty much synonymous with Vshojo.

>> No.19814168

>>19811055
Tortuga...

>> No.19814234

>>19806275
mito should be much higher

>> No.19815305
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>>19806275
1. Ai-chan - She was the first truly succesful chuuba, and practically popularized the concept.
2. Eilene - While the Eilene project was primitive to begin with, her influence on the industry should not be understated, as she was one of the first.
3. Fubuki - Hololive's most subscribed channel for a very long time. It is in large part due to Fubuki's short meme videos, that chuubas gained popularity in the west

Honorable mentions go to Aqua the Queen of the Chinks, Coco the Queen of the EOPs, and Kaguya "Overnight Success" Luna
Out of fairness i would've mentioned some Nijis too, but i've never actively watched them, so i am not at liberty to rank them.

>> No.19815624

>>19807618
>hollow live exposure
Why are SEAniggers like this? Even if it's a Hololive influence why are no one besides Suisei can match her music number? This braindead 3rd worlders KEK

>> No.19815680

>>19810990
then why is she the only one with music numbers that can reach 10M+ Kek, braindead niggers

>> No.19818932

>>19815624
ESL-kun, please.

>> No.19819134

it just hololive?

>> No.19819267

>>19813266
As a youtuber nyanners is legendary and one of the most well known (hated and loved both counts) characters during the early youtube era. So much that every cute anime girl youtuber that suceeded her was called a nyanners clone 11 years ago

As a vtuber shes pretty new and while she has accomplished alot of things already (charity, concert with kizuners, etc.) her accomplishments as a VTUBER is still small.
Ironmouse well shes done far more as a VTUBER than nyanners
T.fan that has watched both before they even blew up

>> No.19819960

>>19813266
>>19812188
if youre going to include a vwhorejo it should be veibae, she defined and brought about the western scene of whoretubers, i believe she was also the first of the whore wave who actually got popular as a vtuber
do nyanners or connorcocksleeve have a vtuber who got popular literally imitating her voice? i dont think so

>> No.19820052

>>19806275
I don't think Gura or Kuzuha can be ranked in terms of influence right now. You'd have to wait a bit to see how many people pop up in the coming years claiming that those two were their inspiration to pick up vtubing.

>> No.19820178

>>19806275
1.Nakiri Ayame
2.Sana
3.Risu Ayunda

>> No.19821903

>>19808562
Making videos where she clipped around at 20fps and screamed about nothing. Had an abortive ad campaign for Nissin udon where she destroyed competitor's products with a baseball bat in 4k ultra-HD that was immediately removed for being too aggressive. Also a really talented singer.

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>>19809079
>vtubing is only streaming

>> No.19822521

>>19806275
1. Ai
2. Luna
3. Siro
4. Mito

There's the full list. Everyone else is expendable.

>> No.19822618

>>19806275
OP's list seems sketchy to me, why too many holos there? should be the select few like kiryu coco for brining eops, and also should have been that vtubers before hololive or even nijis desu

>> No.19822878

1. Ai for literally coining the term and starting a wave of copycats
2. Mito for making L2D streaming a standard
3. Sora for putting Hololive on the vtubing map
4. Coco for opening the EOP floodgates
5. Gura as the face of western vtubing
6. Vox as decisive proof that male vtubing is viable in the west

>> No.19822898

>>19819960
Senzawa and emirichu was called discount nyanners more than half a decade ago

>> No.19822957

>>19808829
LMFAO

>> No.19822968

>>19822878
Also forgot Melody as founder of VShojo for showing the viability of Twitch as a platform.

>> No.19822977

>>19822898
(Samefag) I mean lilypichu not emirichu

>> No.19823230

>>19822898
not a vtuber, not a vtuber and wow another not a vtuber
you may as well say hatsune miku is the most influential vtuber

>> No.19823395

>>19823230
You dumbass i was replying “to someone getting famous just for copying her voice”
Nyanners is a vtuber btw no matter how much copium you inhale everyday

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Chammers. While her influence waned once Coco came around, people often forget that she was popular for her English. It spiked again for the schizo arc later on as well. She should at least get a mention...

>> No.19823838

>>19822878
Luna should be #2. She showed that literally anyone can make it as a vtuber.
Honorable mentions to the rest of the Heavenly Kings and Ami Yamato.

>> No.19823979

>>19806275
In order
1 Mito, she made famous vtubing as we know now, in a corpo and with streams, not videos
2 Fubuki, she brought the vtubing world to the west
3 Kizuna, she started the whole gig
4 Shiina, she was the most popular vtuber at the beguining of the scamdemic, and a lot of the famous ones took a lot from her
5/6 Korone/Pekora, They normalized vtubing in the west
7 Holomyth, They proved that you could have decent western vtubers
Special mention to Elira/Selen and HoloX that prove that you can still find good streamers even in these days

>> No.19824007

>>19806275
>Top 15 most influential Vtubers in History.
1. Annoying Orange. A pioneer.

>> No.19824607

>>19807824
as much as people may hate her for it or not Mito popularized L2D models
and Suisei is a dream idol story from a tryhard nobody to a oricon best seller

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>>19809686
>>Whoever popularized 2D models
>>Whoever popularized live streaming instead of pre recorded stuff

>> No.19824773

>>19809686
>>The first chronologically
>>The first mainstream one (arguably more important than the real first)
>>Whoever pioneered pre recorded content and got big with it
these are all Kizuna Ai

>> No.19824784

>>19824720
And this is why we should hate this bitch. I miss the skits, the short videos, and the videos being scripted. FUCK streaming.

>> No.19825051

>>19824784
I have fond memories of it but I don't think I could ever go back.

>> No.19826144

The irony of Mito popularizing streaming is that she wanted to do videos but was forced to by Ichikara to stream.

>> No.19826303

>>19815305
why is aqua queen of the chinks and not fubuki pagpag? Aqua is queen of the japs

>> No.19826639

>>19811055
Tonkatruck...

>> No.19826845

>>19808696
she had a 3d model and streamed on twitch

>> No.19826996

I have literally never heard half of the names in here how the fuck are they influential?

>> No.19827041

This topic mostly just demonstrates how many people here are newfriends who believe there was no EN audience for Hololive and Vtubers before Coco or HoloEN.

>> No.19827045

>>19826996
This bait is very tempting... I may have to bite...

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>>19806467
niggers like you are why this board is shit

>> No.19827307

>>19806275
There aren't even 15 influential vtubers.An actual list would probably not even be able to break 10 and would probably be something like Coco, Kizuna Ai, Miko, and Ironmouse

>> No.19828753

>>19822878
5. Gura as the face of western vtubing
Gura was the face. Now Iron Mouse unironically is more recognizable because of her sub-athon.

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>>19827307

>> No.19829063

>>19828753
Who?

>> No.19829373

>>19822878
>6. Vox as decisive proof that male vtubing is viable in the west
lol its just sea and taiwan

>> No.19829445

>>19829373
I'm curious now. /#/fags, what's the split of currencies in his SCs?

>> No.19829468

>>19829063
Gura is that streamer from hololive that used to be the top but now is just a forgotten mid carder please remember her

>> No.19829558

>>19829468
whos the top in EN now?

>> No.19830494
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19830494

>This kills the 4chan contrarian
Nothing personal

>> No.19831141

>>19806275
Where is game club? They are the one that popularize 3D skits. And they also popularize skits that make no sense.
Where is Sio/Tama? Literally destroy a very popular company, where their fans later moves to hololive.
Where are Himehina? They make a breakthrough for vtuber in the music space.
Where is Kagura Mea? She is the one that spearhead and popularize vtuber in the china market.
Shiro used to be super popular, but I would say she is more influential lately than back then. I mean that weird TV variety show that she do with kotoge-san, brought inspiration for some TV variety show producer to do stuff with them. Like that TV variety show with Nogizaka's Manatsu. TV producer don't really know how to do shit with vtuber back then, so they do karaoke show or music show instead. Not fun.
Shigure Ui. Because of her, illustrators that never show their face now able to connect with their fans by becoming vtuber. Despite Tamaki becoming a vtuber first, the popularity and inspiration to do the same start from Ui.
>Aqua
>Marine
>Mori
>Kuzuha
>Suisei
They are not that influential as in historically. If that's the level you would mention, I would recommend Kenmochi instead. His addition actually makes collabs way more easier and way more casual, just through DM or discord, instead of going through manager where collabs needs to have real goal or meaning. Especially for female - male collab. But I don't think he is that worth mentioning though because there are more notable vtuber, but he plays more role than those you mentioned.
>Tokino Sora
As much as pioneer she is, Miko, Korone, and Pekora are literally more influential than her for vtuber history. I don't know about Fubuki though, she used to be just popular. I don't remember anything notably influential.

>> No.19831281

>>19831141
>I don't remember anything notably influential.
scatman going viral, I think that's about it

>> No.19831346

>>19831281
Ah yeah that, but it died pretty soon because people quickly focus on korone instead.

>> No.19831459

>>19829558
Me on top of your mom

>> No.19831809

>>19823979
Woah I actually forget how popular Shiina was compared to everyone else in the market back then.

>> No.19833781

>>19831141
Sora isnt just first member who put Hololive on the map first, she literally the founder that Hololive wouldn't exist without her, how Miko, Korone, and Pekora are more influential when their achievement are basically viral clips

>> No.19833863

>>19806275
The Holoshit bias is showing. Most of them are irrelevant in their host country.

>> No.19834028

>>19831809
The only thing that stops me from watching her as much as I did before is how little she streams right now, despite that she's still one of my favorites

>> No.19834913

>>19807696
It's amazing how true this is.

>> No.19835130

Don't forget Kaguya Luna LIVE@ZeppVR was the first VR live concert.

>> No.19837088

1. ai. first one, self explanatory
2. sora. first holo, hololive being molded in her image as an idol which is a big part of the reason it became successful. first vtuber to focus on live streaming primarily, the actual original superchat queen, this the originator of true simping culture among vtubers
3. coco. Made it popular in english. took superchats to another level

there's a power gap between each of these and a massive power gap to the next most influential. everyone else is small time

>> No.19837123

Me.

>> No.19837157

>>19837123
fuck off pippa

>> No.19839025

>>19837088
>Sora 2nd
rumao

>> No.19839512

>>19809686
>The first chronologically
I can't remember off the top of my head
>The first mainstream one (arguably more important than the real first)
Ai
>Whoever pioneered pre recorded content and got big with it
Ai
>Whoever popularized 2D models
Mito
>Whoever popularized live streaming instead of pre recorded stuff
Sora
>Whoever broke through to the EN market and showed that it was a profitable option
Coco

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