/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Previous: >>19570646

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

2x Map: https://files.catbox.moe/7l45om.png
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>It is highly advised to "Right-click > Save target as" this image
>It is the largest filesize catbox will allow (186MB download, 195MB on disk)
>This map is to facilitate hamlet/village/town/city/etc. placement

CURRENT GOAL:

>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs

CLIMATE POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT)
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/zo5ke

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE PROMPTS
https://rentry.org/7nt3b

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated lore in OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Reposting prompts for visibility

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear on the daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship their dieties? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687899
reminder we still need to update the territory map to include the updated borders for Sakuran, Who, and Hoshiyomia

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687899
updated the OP rentry to include representative tripcodes in the OP. i also included lore prompts as a separate post, to better catch the attention of new contributors.

will now archive lore from the last anchor/s.

[Anonymous No.]

Does this thread have its own meta territory on the map?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687899
updated the OP rentry to include representative tripcodes in the OP. i also included lore prompts as a separate post, to better catch the attention of new contributors.

the lore entries from previous threads have been archived

[Anonymous No.]

>>19688523
yeah. i guess this is our Hague?

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>>19688573
>dangerously close to /meat/

[Anonymous No.]

If the world is Earth sized then a majority of countries are Poland, Italy sized
No small nations

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>>19688594
why do you think they have so many contributors? it's probably walking distance.
>>19688620
we also have far less nations than the actual Earth. maybe future nations will spring up from existing territory.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Do we have a /haha/ rep? Oh, and is /yeah/ rep here?

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>>19690301
/yeah/ rep is right here, why?

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

>>19687981
>>19687967
KFP religion
>While many nations have their head of state as their religious leader, acting as a representative of their high deity, in /KFP/ the Kaiserin is not just as a representative of Kiara, but as Kiara herself.
>While days can be spent debating and mulling over the strange, and potentially heretical nature of /KFP/ religious doctrine, what's more interesting, and perhaps less discussed, is the way the KFP's practice of having a God Queen impacts their rituals and religious practices.
>As the Kaiserin is quite literally a god on earth, religious rituals are considered perhaps less important than they are in other countries, and are practiced largely as matters of culture or for reasons of self fulfillment, as performing rituals to speak to the goddess seems largely redundant when you can, and as is often the case in fact HAS, seen or even spoken to said goddess in person.
>Shrine visits, typically performed over the winter, are done to typically to cleanse oneself and "Cool Down". Typically in wake of the wild and unadulterated sin that takes place of the Autumn.
>Simple robes with decorative wings are worn around shrines, which the KFP will stay at for two days living a simple life with the maidens who tend to the shrine, meditating, before receiving their fortune, bathing in a nearby hot spring and returning to their normal lives.
>Winged robes are also adorned during marriage, which are performed at the same shrines. While all guests are present for the marriage ritual itself, during which a chicken bones is typically crushed for good luck, the newly weds will stay the night at the shrine at the shrine, before leaving the next morning.
>The newly weds stay within a special, secluded, chamber at the very back of the shrine, where they are expected to consummate their marriage. While it is typical to have a shrine maiden present to "assist" in the love making, either due to it being move newly weds first time, or simply to satisfy the perversion of either the husband or the wife, it is not abnormal for the maiden to be dismissed to give the couple privacy.
>/KFP/ funerals however are done "viking style", in which a KFP will be place upon a boat with a pyre upon it onto a body of water. The pyre is then lit by flaming arrow. While a lake is preferred, this is typically reserved for the wealthy and high status due to its cost, with the majority of /KFP/ being cast out into the ocean instead.

>Finally, the most looked forward to of religious practices, visiting the Kaiserin to receive her blessing
>Every KFP is expected to do this once in their life, with even KFP living outside of KFP territory making pilgrimage back to their ancestral homeland to visit the Empress. This is typically done during the summer, as this is when conditions up the mountainside are safest.
>A red envelope is filled with a 100 Reichsmarks, and a message for the Kaiserin. The KFP in question will then bring this envelop with them along a pilgrims path that leads from the costal lowlands all the way up to the highest point of the Kaisereich, the peak of Mount Bird, where the Kaiserins Palace, and throne room, are located. Unlike other rituals, no special garb is worn, and instead the KFP is expected to arrive in their everyday clothes.
>Upon arriving, the KFP will present the envelope to the Kaiserin, who will open it and read the message enclosed. She will then discuss the contents of the message with the KFP, speaking to them personally. IF the message is blank, or is too short to be made conversation of the Kaiserin will chastise the KFP for this. Finally, when the conversation is deemed finished, the Kaiserin will kiss the KFP, and send them off to travel back down the mountain.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19690773
Right now /∞/ is split on asking to reopen trade with /yeah/, and reopening it but altering the deal. The latter is because some kronies pointed out the blasphemy is trading our divine milk with mere lumber.

I know you guys said it's not magical, but that was before chuubanite was decided on. And even if it's not magical, is the timber of particularly good quality?

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>>19690969
Okay, i have been writing some things up about this exact topic, but since it's not yet finished, I'll share what i already have.

Basically, the "Bunch of Forests" forest is where /yeah/ gets it's wood. The wood is has a dark pigmentation, strong and sturdy, and is slow to rot. We use this wood to help with the building of our ships and infrastructure. The reason we can build all of these things with is that, due to state measures, The Forest has plenty of wood due to constant replanting. Because of this, good quality wood is cheap and is easily accessible. I don't want to say that our wood is the best in all of /vtwbg/, but it's of good quality, it's cheap, and there is plenty of it.

The Forest also has magical items in it, with these items having the magical qualities of the chuubas we worship, but these items haven't been fully fleshed out yet, but I will share when i am done.

I haven't fully decided on if i want the wood to be magical itself, or if the magical part is just how much of it there is.

These things are subject to change, but i will post when I'm done

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19691464
Thank you very much! I'll tell the kronies, I think this will put more people in favor of keeping the trade.

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bump

[Anonymous No.]

does /ringo/ have a rep here?

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

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Bump

[Anonymous No.]

Would it be more plausible for bread dogs to eat chuubanite or bake them from wheat grown with chuubanite fertilizer?

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>>19698370
you could have both.

[Anonymous No.]

Can people submit the lore to /wg/ for review? Maybe it's kinda cheating

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>>19699356
what lore?

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>>19699394
I mean thread lores, not specifically /wg/s

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>>19699520
but why?

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>>19699739
For error fixing and advices. I like the worldbuolding autism, but I lack the writing skills

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>>19699798
They are harsh in their criticisms, so if you do it, don't be discouraged if they are too rude about it.

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I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out /nasa/'s ritual. For the most part /nasa/ treats Sana like an idol because that's what Sana wants. It also makes sense because we get literal broadcasts of Sana's streams. We do acknowledge Sana is a literal god because she's a cosmic diety but Sana wants us to treat her human. Still doesn't stop the fanatics from worshiping her as a god. Sana as a god is less about making a gospel and more about living by example. Though without streams the living example isn't working out too well.

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Bump

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>>19687967

/nasa/ does not have a ritual invoking prayer to Sana in a traditional sense. Instead when Sama broadcasts it is an event for everyone in /nasa/ to watch. Once /nasa/ recieves the signal then the the stream is broadcasted throughout /nasa/'s network in the territory. That said there are plans to create satellites that orbit the world. These satellites will serve as global positioning, observing, and radio transmission. That way Sanallites will always know where they are and can always see Sana's broadcast everywhere. That said the satellites are two-centuries away bare minimum because satellites need robots and programming for self maintenance. There's also the risk of foreign sanctions if they think the satellites spy on their territory. Satellites are a discussion for another day.

/nasa/ does bring offerings to Sana. It used to be that /nasa/ would leave behind space capsules of art pieces, records of music, and space sealed bread in case another space farer flies by. Though /nasa/ can't send capsules to space anymore there are plans of leaving behind capsules on earth and sea. The capsules spread the love /nasa/ has for Sana.

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bump

I HATE THE ANTICLOCK!

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>>19699356
/wg/ rep here. We actually decided to keep discussion of /vtwbg/ topics confined to this thread due to interest levels and to keep our usual shitposters from having more fuel to derail threads. So you're better off just posting it here and asking for advice. The people here are more interested and will have a better idea of how well it meshes with other threads' lore anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how popular bread dogs would be with children outside of /nasa/.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how popular bread dogs would be as walking fleshlights

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>>19707438
More than you think. We have the data.

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>>19707438
>>19707550
dont

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>>19707586
Spacemen under strict population control will find creative ways. That's all I will say.

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>>19707775
YOU JUST KNOW

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>>19707775
>/nasa/ has got actual dogfuckers

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bumperino
i will try some lore later

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>>19711436
>Selen
Does /HAHA/ have a rep!?

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>Gura is doing a literal /meat/ stream
I dont know how to feel about this. What does this mean to /ggg/ and /meat/ relations?

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>>19712947
>Does /HAHA/ have a rep!?
Don't know what does mean but if you mean actual lore, then no

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>>19713271
I dont know about /ggg/ but at least /meat/ will gain a new sadistic goddess while losing one of theirs

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>>19713547
It means representative....

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>>19713690
I do wonder how will this paradox go? /meat/ consume as offering to their god. What then happens if said god fall?

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>>19708982
>>19709204
As a reminder doing that is a violation of the Bread Dog Owner's Code and will result in forfeiture of your bread dog and a fine of five day's worth of rations.

[Anonymous No.]

This is a VERY unfinished version of me describing the clothing, i really would appreciate if anyone could help me out in fleshing out what i've got here.

Republic Owl / Respublika Filin / Republique Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
On the clothing and fashion of the population.

Thanks to weather conditions, the clothing most preferred by the population is simple, warm, and covering shirts and long pants, with the use of gloves and boots, and the common face covers that most of the population decides to use. A lot of these face covers are paper bags and similar things. Generally, the more the face is obscured the better. There is a lack of color in the clothing, with black and muted browns, blues, and greens being the preferred and most common color seen on the typical working class.
As an interesting note, the population seems to have little to no division in men and women's clothing, with some women sometimes using warm skirts and dresses, most still use the shirt and pants combo. The common face covers and the use of coats and cloaks can make it difficult to determine the gender of someone that's just walking the streets. This lack of division is theorized to have risen when the Republic simplified its production lines during the early wars and the clothing manufacturers were made to produce soldier wear, this soldier wear then filtered back into the civilian population.
Clothing is usually made of wool and linen.
Brown cloaks are in use by state workers as standarized uniforms, these are modeled after the one used by the nameless being that is worshipped by the Republic, however, they are simplified and lose the symbols that should be in place, so in the end it still just looks like a brown coat with a green inside.
The gloves and mittens typically worn are often white or black, and are made from wool. The most common design is a repurposed form of army gloves.
Boots are often made of leather and in the shape of adapted combat boots, socks are rarer, so footwraps are used instead. Other shoes are used, with an enphasis on flexibility and warmness.

While the working class does not really have formal wear, most have some sort of variety of simple long sleeved shirts. The upper class allows itself to be more eccentric in the clothes they use, althought still following the muted colors from the rest of the population.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any nations that specialize in cotton clothing? Or is everything still wool, leather, and linen?

[Anonymous No.]

Question, does the cotton gin exist yet?

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>>19718112
>>19687967

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>>19718815
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_gin
>patented in 1794
I don't see why not.
>>19718598
I was wondering the same thing. from looking at the map, /ggg/ and /morig/ could be some of the places where cotton production exists. The main places where cotton plantations existed were large plains with big rivers like egypt and the US south, i didn't add it for /who/ considering how we've got none of the requirements for cash crops.

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>>19713271
increased cult activity hidden in the inner circle of /ggg/

>>19716597
consumed, just like all other gods who fell

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>>19719396
I was thinking /nasa/ could have some basic cotton production in their greenhouse. Polyester and latex aren't that easy to repair in space. Since wool is out of the question /nasa/ is left with linen and cotton. I figure /nasa/ can wear denim jumpsuits under their space suits.

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>>19716597
who said we eat as an offering to our gods?

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/nasa/ has a pretty big café culture. They love their coffee almost as much as bread. We want to try local world coffee. Anywhere selling cocoa beans?

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>>19722414
/meat/ says hi...

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>>19723442
I need coffee. I meant to write coffee beans. Would /meat/ be interested in chocolate chip cookies and muffins?

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>>19723677
our blood river fertilizes our coaco. are you suggesting a collaborative effort or something?

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>>19724040
I don't think they'll be into that.

>>19723677
Oh, guess we'll look into whether coffee beans grow in /meat/ too. As for chocolate chip cookies, as good as they might taste, I don't think shipping them all the way from /nasa/ would be cost-efficient. Anything else /nasa/ is interested in exporting?

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>>19724239
>I don't think they'll be into that.
you're right, they should stick to their literal shit fertilizers, wouldn't want to make them a cannibal by proxy of having eaten food fertilized by human blood, i wonder what that makes them if they eat food fertilized with shit? oh well. if you are referring to something else, disregard what i said

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>>19724040
>>19724239
We'll have to politely say no for now.

>>19725560
Compost and shit make pretty good fertilizer though.

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>>19726189
ya, and so does blood.

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>>19725560
Then again, kopi luwak is a thing too, but I reckon it might be more in /ringo/ territory.

>>19726303
Well, meat and bone meal is a thing, after all...

>>19726189
Understandable, have a nice day!

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So basically both /meat/ and /ringo/ would have suspiciously well fertilized soil.

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>>19726303
Obviously. /nasa/'s used to using our own waste as fertilizer in deep space. We even use cremated ashes of the dead for fertilizer. Though we still have memorials for those who passed away. The things you have to do to survive deep space travel is sometimes dark stuff.

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>>19726442
Eating a meal of /meat/ cornbread and trying not to think about it

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>>19726442
some of /meat/s chuubas are strangely close to /ringo/ territory in terms of content. i wonder how much we would trade in techniques with eachother?

>>19726492
ash is good, but you should keep some of it for later, it's hard to get your proper proteins from a purely vegan diet.

[Anonymous No.]

Question, in which climates can grapes grow in? I need it for wine production

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>>19726731
We have lab grown meat for necessary proteins. Don't ask what it is because not even I'm allowed to know.

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>>19726731
>spoiler
Bad /meat/! Shoo!

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>>19726931
Mediterranean climate is probably best for growing grapes, although smaller-scale production can probably still be found, especially in more advanced/nature-inclined areas.

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>>19687967
>>19688382
Something like this?

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>>19687967
And while making >>19727317 I noticed that the map in the OP is missing the boundary between feet and hag, so here's an updated version.

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Looks like my weekend to make /nasa/'s map got filled with family obligations. For now I have to find a place for the station's crash site.

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>>19727317
>>19727535
While you're here, can you do maps centred on the other hemisphere (i.e. with Niji/small corpos/indies close to the middle)?

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>>19688382
>>19727317
There's an inconstancy in these maps, /#/ and /nasfaq/ have changed places

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>>19729797
>>19687967
Dang, I knew I'd mess something up. Here's a map with the corrected labels.
>>19729000
Like just cut off the left side of the map and drag it over to the right side? I could draft up something like that, though the holocontinent will end up split in half if that matters.

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>>19730116
That's great work, anon!

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>>19730116
Why those colors? Something darker would be a lot better

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>>19730116
Could you kindly flip infinity's island horizontally, please?

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>>19730823
Also, Suisei general's nation is called Hoshiyomia, not just Suisei

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>>19730116
Splitting the holocontinent is fine, I wasn't thinking of making it the main map, just a side map for reference.

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>>19732099
Here you go!
>>19730823
>>19730851
>>19730888
Oh boy, give me a moment.

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>>19732730
Thanks!

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>>19732730
Waiting patiently. Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.]

Hey buds! If you don't mind me asking, what's the current status on Chuubanite? Is it safe to use it in lore posts?

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>>19734471
try to keep it vague, /who/ for example just avoids any mention of magic, /nasa/ instead mentions its potential applications.

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>>19734471
The vote seems to be mostly in favour of it existing. https://rentry.org/buk5e is written as an overview of what it might be able to do, but I don't think there's a lot of discussion about that. Overall, I think it's safe to include chuubanite in lore, although how strong it can be might still need to be discussed.

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>>19730823
>>19730851
>>19730888
Alright, here's a version with the requested changes. Is this good color-wise?

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>>19736496
Turn down the saturation, augment contrast. The brightness is ok

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>>19734664
>>19735413
Hmm... Okay! I think for safety's sake I won't refer to it by name, but use it in a certain capacity. My idea is for Rosebuds to survive in the cold by making use of "Rosestones", which can be used as both a light source and a heat source. It's based pretty heavily on a different anon's past suggestion.

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>>19737979
I'd go with the classic sun stones. But the Rosestone could be a sun stone that's shaped like a rose.

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>>19738319
Oh no they're like the classic sun stones, even looking like a spherical sunstone you'd find in real life, it's just that Rosebuds gave them a name relating more to them because they thought "sun" wasn't cool enough. Different name, same general application.

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>>19736861
How's this?

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>>19739770
How about replacing fuchsia for cyan and red for maroon? Maybe the green and yellow can be replaced by forest green and mustard yellow too

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>>19740289
I'm a bit hesitant to use cyan since it might be too similar to the background/water. But I did remember an old version of the map with a similar color scheme, so I used that as reference. Does this look okay?

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>>19736496
>>19739770
Thank you for the island flip

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>>19741597
It's perfect
One small thing though, how about mixing the fetish island's colors again? It has too much purple, not because there are too many countries with that color, but because the ones with purple are coincidentally the bigger ones. Assign a color to a number and throw a D4. Google has one, just search "d4 online"

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>>19738733
Oh well if that's the name you choose then so be it. The long and short of chuubanite is that whatever it bonds with it "enhances" that thing. Your rosestones that trap light inside them are made with chuubanite in some way. Perhaps the stones are made from your rose's nectar that hardens over time. The roses take decades to bloom but they produce rose stones when they bloom.

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>>19742155
It's a bit more involved than using a d4 since we don't want neighboring countries to have the same color and some countries' colors were chosen thematically. There's still a fair amount of wiggle room though. Here's one with horni changed to green since that color was underrepresented in that continent.

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>>19742578
That's a good idea, hmm... I'll have to work on it, but that could function well!

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>>19743890
Much more balanced, looks good. Good job. To the anchor it goes unless someone else has any more advices >>19687967

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>>19744123
I want to explore chuubanite in nature more. Mostly with how it could bond with plants and animals in nature to give them fantastic evolutions. KFP could have living phoenixes for example. Don't recall if they do or don't.

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>>19744123
>>19745521
To further elaborate on that idea, what if the rosestone-producing roses only work that way because they're grown on chuubanite-enriched soil/fertiliser? That way you can still produce mundane roses at a regular rate while explaining how the rosestone comes about. In fact, the chuubanite-enriched roses might have different functions beyond just producing rosestone nectar.

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>>19745561
We could say rosestone can only be grown by the subterranean roses because that's how those roses evolved for thousands of years. There can be other breeds of roses that produce smaller rosestone drops. However the giant roses have been there for a very long time and would be impossible to move.

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>>19745883
I can easily be both: the rosestone roses are evolved like that because of chuubanite in soil, which in turn allow them to produce rosestones that serve as light and heat sources. Since both of them are probably premium in subterranean caves, roses that can grow larger rosestones (hence them being larger) are more likely to survive, hence they evolve to become gigantic roses that power the entire sub-ecosystem.

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>>19747620
it*
don't turn me into rose pls

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>>19747620
The ancestors of /rose/ build sun catchers with the rosestone to channel sunlight underground. Once light is underground it shines to other rosestones to illuminate the underground gardens. Sound good?

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>>19748288
I haven't seen the past suggestion that inspired it, but I'm under the impression that rosestones don't need sunlight to shine?
ignore me if I'm wrong

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>>19749746
Sunstones are suppose to be like batteries. They absorb sunlight during the spring and summer. Then they shine in the fall and winter. Also during the spring and summer the sun catchers shine in place of sunstones. That's my idea.

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>>19750526
Interesting, I guess that works then. In that case, though, it probably won't be a result of evolution, since I assume the ancestors probably haven't been doing that for millennia. (do we know how long it has roughly been since the people arrived in /vt/land?)

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Bumpeth
I feel like that Bayeux tapestry meme would be a good way to get your thread's memes across

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>>19753011
I do like that meme style, although I reckon it might be too Western for some of us

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>>19743890
>>19744293
I've asked this before, but what about changing fbk's and mion's locations?

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>>19755587
Do they have representatives here? If not I guess it should be okay

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>>19755587
Why?

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bump

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>>19757031
Don't think so, at least I've never seen them around
>>19757035
In the current map, mion is bordering holostars and is more to the north than fbk. It would make sense for them to be swapped as fbk interacts with holostars on a regular basis (not sure if that reflects on vt threads, but it's definitely more likely for those threads to have an overlap instead of mion, since Mio never interacts with holostars), and Fubuki is an arctic fox so being further north than Mio makes sense thematically.

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>>19687981
I was writing for the religious prompt, but I realised the rest of the prompt has yet to be discussed with the rest of the thread.
***
The central tenet of /meat/ cult is the cycle of life: the unending cycle of birth, suffering, death, and rebirth, and that experiencing every step of it - either by causing it or receiving it - is seen as a way to enrich the cycle and keeping it in balance. As such, /meat/ rituals are centred around these steps as well. For the rest of the world, the most infamous ones are based on suffering followed by death.

For laypeople, the majority of rituals they will participate in will occur in the local churches and shrines. During regular gatherings, participants are strongly encouraged to participate in rituals involving specialised equipment like whips and sticks, with the clergy administering and receiving the suffering depending on the situation. Those who do not participate directly will nonetheless serve as witnesses to the rituals. While participation is not mandatory, long-term residents who consistently deny witnessing it tend to be viewed with suspicion.

In larger settlements, human sacrifice is also conducted on a semi-regular basis. Although usually taken from captives obtained through raiding, willing sacrifices of commoner or even noble background are not uncommon. These sacrificial rituals are generally done at the top of an open altar, allowing many to witness the process. Depending on the perceived value of the sacrifice, it can be the centrepiece of a major event, lasting days with "lesser" sacrifices and games in-between. Merchants and vendors can usually be seen, setting up shops to profit from the traffic and festive atmosphere, while those with means tend to have their seats reserved in elevated platforms and scaffoldings for unobstructed viewing.

At the end of a human sacrifice, the remains of the sacrifice will be processed and distributed. Due to their high value and often chuubanite-powered properties, most of them are either rewarded to the clergy and soldiers responsible for acquiring the sacrifice, or being sold to those with means. However, spare parts, usually made into trinkets and medicine, are distributed to the masses. Philanthropy from the clergy and the rich also often involve distributing their allotted parts to the general population.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19690847
Always a treat to read KFP lore

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Is the /yeah/ representative here? The Kronies voted in favor of opening trade again, if you'd let us. Thank you.

>>19760045
Great read as always, /meat/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19760372
That is good news. The timber is being shipped as we speak. How much timber is a certain amount of milk worth?

-/yeah/ representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19745561
>>19745883
>>19747620
>>19748288
>>19749746
>>19750526
>>19750693
Oh wow, that's a lot of ideas. Sometimes I wonder if I'm NOT the only rosebud here LOL. Thanks for the help, buds!

[Anonymous No.]

Also, since /yeah/ represents and worships multiple chuubas, would it be alright if it had multiple chuuba-related items? I was wondering because most generals represent only 1 chuuba, and have 1 chuuba related item, like /inf/ and their Kronii Milk. Would that be alright?

-/yeah/ representative

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19760828
Thank you. We'll have to discuss the exact amounts another time as we flesh out the milk more - but we'll be sending you 3 galleons' worth in crates of the milk as an apology for the incident and sign of goodwill
>>19761160
I think that works. And maybe your different chuubanites have different properties from each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19761531
Thank you for the clarification and gift, /yeah/ is very grateful for it. Also, please remember that our wood is abundant, and that we are trading it for a rare commodity. We are willing to trade 1 metric tonne of timber for 5 liters of your product if that is deemed to be equivalent. I hope this helps.

-/yeah/ representative

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19761841
A very generous offer, thank you. I will poll the kronies on it, but personally I hope they take it. Thank you again.

[Anonymous No.]

>all these lore
I love you guys!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763017
Thank you, delicious friend!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763017
I'm not used to being this autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763017
I love you too, kfp friend!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763099
Im actually a KF/meat/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763153
Oh. Well, I still love you even if you're a little weird to me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19761841
Why do you guys want Kronii Milk anyway? Did one of your oshis talk about Kronii or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763308
Well, it's to ensure /yeah/'s security. /yeah/ is bordered by /NijiEN/ to the north and /rose/ to the west. Both nations that are larger and more populous than /yeah/. We have defensible borders, with the Northwestern Highlands and two unnamed rivers bordering them, but this alone won't stop any invasion. Because of this, /yeah/ wants to have access to weapons, any kind of weapon, that could aid it in its defense. We want Kronii Milk as a sort of chemical weapon. We also want to perform experiments to see how it would react to certain elements.

and personally, i was a bit interested in Kronii, watched the first Frostpunk VOD, but just never got around to watching anything else because i was preoccupied with my Ethyria oshis

-/yeah/ representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763580
Very informative! I guess kronies turn a blind eye to people tampering with their holy work outside infinity. it's probably placebo anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

https://rentry.org/n3vyk
Holy shit this is good! I feel sorry for the schizo trolls

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763823
It makes too much sense that the race that knows the truth are called schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>19763823
>"le forbidden knowledge" written in as a curse that was never asked for nor can be lifted
Kino...

[Anonymous No.]

>be me
>Tundra explorer from /nasa/
>Encounters a local schizo troll
>They start rambling in runts and other beastly noises
>Pointing at the sky or something
>Walks away
>They start panicking and beg me to stay
>Fucking schizos

[Anonymous No.]

Are the schizo wastes north of /nasa/ where all schizos originate from, or is that just a particular spot with a lot of schizos and there are stray schizos wandering /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19765033
Maybe it'll be like the Leverians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverian_collection
Adventurers from all over the world would go north and kidnap a poor schizo troll, and bring them back into zoos. Just like how Victorian era bongs locked up black people in zoos
"BEHOLD!! THE MISSING LINK BETWEEN MAN AND BEAST!"
All while the poor troll grunts about their gods are all anime girl avatars that nobody understands

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687967
>>17772384
>petranya is a nation of people who voluntarily left their empires due to dissatisfaction
both of them found the others company pleasant and interests aligned, so they founded their own nation free of the rivalry between their former empires
there are rumors of paranormal activity in their territory such as infrequent ghost and UFO sightings, but outsiders dismiss those claims by the residents due to their erratic nature

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687967
/∞/ flags.
I also updated our lore that is linked in the archive with a geographical map of our islands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19767534
Those are some nice flags.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19767534
Forgot my trip. These flags have been voted on by Kronies already.

[Anonymous No.]

Teaser for /hlg/

[Anonymous No.]

And here's /∞/

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19768117
>The Army Abolition Act
doubt.jpg
Looks nice otherwise!
what do any of these mean

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19767073
>>19687967
>The short version is that Anya-Petra is a frozen hellhole with a vast system of underground tunnels/bunkers etc, it is all very esoteric and odd. That and this country has good relations with tsunderia,niji and holo as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687967
>>19767073
Anya-Petra is a frozen hellhole with a vast system of underground tunnels/bunkers etc, it is all very esoteric and odd. That and this country has good relations with tsunderia,niji and holo as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19768323
>Anya-Petra is a frozen hellhole with a vast system of underground tunnels/bunkers
Well shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19768170
https://youtu.be/3L13KgUlvXw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19768323
aren't you in the tropics

[Anonymous No.]

>>19768323
>Frozen hellhole
Bro... the climate map says other wise

[Anonymous No.]

>>19768494
>>19768495
>Anya-Petra lives in a warm tropics area
>/rose/ lives in a frigid waste
There's something really, really funny about that.

[Anonymous No.]

So /nasa/ has wheat exports. Still no luck on fuel and minerals. We're mostly waiting for Sana to stream again. Its been 22 days since her last stream. And I'm running out of ideas for lore. I can refine what I have but I don't think I can continue without a stream.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

I HATE THE ANTICLOCK!

[Anonymous No.]

You know what I love about /vt/ world?
It's basically the representation of the underbelly side of the vtuber community
No hugbox and yesmen like on Reddit
Only hateful schizos, corpo supremacists, radical idolatry, and people like /meat/ that unironically wants corpos to die for a new generation of indies to rise

[Anonymous No.]

>>19773930
How many canon bad ends do we have so far?
/meat/'s Heavenly Deicide is up there on the list

[Anonymous No.]

>>19773930
/nasa/ is interesting because unlike other Sanalites that live in their delusions of supporting Sana's streams we're actually being productive with our time not watching Sana. We also raise complaints about Sana not keeping a consistent stream schedule. In fact Sana's lack of streams is why /nasa/ is in as bad of a state that it is. We have non-stop schizo and Mozzie imposters that constantly hijack threads and demoralize. /nasa/ is a realistic reflection of Sana's current fanbase. If Sana doesn't stream then people will do something else and watch someone else. Even leaving Sanalites to become other fans.

[Anonymous No.]

The rest of my thread isn't interested in this stuff at all, so I'm probably going to run big ideas for /rose/ by you guys if I get them. First bigger idea I have is that /rose/ used to be a very sunny, bright place once upon a time. But due to both being hit by a type of rat plague and a harsh winter brought about like the loss of an idol, it ended up being the icy hellscape it is now. It could be rooted in Rosebuta mythology, but either way it could serve as a reason why the Rosebutas are there in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

Doing a future compass for potential endings of /vt/ world
Sneak peek

[Anonymous No.]

>>19775939
Are the rose pig people a nice people to talk to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19776579
It depends. Typically they're pleasant people and are willing to do things like trade and chat. But they've been reclusive for a very long time. Few Rosebutas travel outside of their tunnels, fewer outside of /rose/. Most know little about the ongoings of the world outside of their own, so new faces would put them on edge. As long as you're nice though, they'll be nice back!

[Anonymous No.]

I'll resume later
But try to guess what these endings are for now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19776946
>Lonely man is a bad ending
W-what happened there??

[Anonymous No.]

>>19776888
/nasa/ has flour if you have tea. We still prefer coffee but tea is good with space bread and pastries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777025
My guess is its the story of the Last Sanalite. Everyone in /nasa/ has left giving up hope for Sana. All except one man who still waits for Sana's broadcast to this day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777048
You picked the right place for tea! We've got all sorts of tea, the most popular being rose tea of course! We'll happily trade tea for flour!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19776946
Row 1 Column 2: Probably /nasa/ or /who/ global victory
Row 1 Column 3: Janny police state?
Row 2 column 4: no idea
Row 2 Column 1: Peace in /vt/?
Bottom right: /meat/ invades the heavens
Guy all alone: also no idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777136
You could also sell perfumes and aromatherapy. Don't limit your flowers to roses. I'm sure you can grow other flowers and fruits in your garden.

[Anonymous No.]

Global corporatocracy ending where...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777265
Oh! Of course! We've actually got super high quality skincare and fragrances! Like our oshi believes, we too believe in a high standard of beauty!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777135
Close, but it's not for /nasa/
But you got the story right
The last man on /vt/ land. What happened to everyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777429
/asp/ victory ending? everyone ascended except (You)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777376
Good thing about /nasa/'s flour is that it lasts for a good few years. So long as you store it in a cool dry place. Though the humidity underground could be a problem with storing the flour. You'll have to dig out a well ventilated and dry place for food storage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777048
/who/ also holds some wheat production, if /nasa/ were to help us increase their yield and taste, we could increase the possible exports of /nasa/, all we'd require is a small amount of the profits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777475
Im surprised you got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777475
>>19777558
>/asp/ victory
>bad end
How? Everyone became chuuba gods. isnt that a good ending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777641
>entirety of /vt/ became chuubas
I dunno bro that sounds like a bad ending to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19777523
I'm not sure if /nasa/ wants to cut a real estate deal with /who/ just yet. We only have enough people to cultivate wheat in the south. Also we're using machines for the bulk of the work. Including machines to analyze the soil nutrients. I assume if /who/ wants us to cultivate on their land then /who/ will want a down payment. We predict /who/ would rent /nasa/ the land to cultivate in exchange for both profits, taxes, and of harvest along with a security deposite. Since /nasa/ lacks gold I assume the down payment will be capital: The machines and research we have to plow and fertilize the soil.

Unrelated. We're also doing an experimemt with wheat in our territory. We have a few experiment groups testing the amount of chuubanite dust from the meteorites we collected. The experiment is to test a small sample of how compatible our space wheat is to chuubanite dust. As well as what effects the dust will have on tge wheat's cold resistance, seeds, and flour flavor. We've already confirmed edible plants grown with chuubanite are harmless for consumption.

I like how /who/ tries to swindle technology from /nasa/ in the name of civilization. Its fun.

[Anonymous No.]

whats the /nasfaqg/ bad ending? Global megacorporations that rule over all? Mushiba world dominance? Thinkpad gains sentience? Every chuuba becomes a corpo chuuba? All 4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19778425
This particular bad ending just got posted in /nasfaqg/, heh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19778425
There are multiple bad endings possible, I think, including a mass-abayo-induced schizophrenic breakdown of the entire /vt/ economy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19778231
We are willing to be very cheap on down payment i assure you, a percentage of profits is more than enough, maybe /nasa/ could even establish a bakery in one of our cities. After all /who/ is most happy to help out a fellow sister nation, we would be even happier to help fund your research, of course you would have to work along with our scientist and reseachers...

/who is very enthusiastic about technology, Humanity has to advance after all. Don't worry about the suspicious fellowls that look like spies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19779027
I'm not sure if /uuu/ is interested in lore building. I'd love to open up some trades with /uuu/ for fruit. Especially berries to make pies and cakes with.

[Anonymous No.]

Page 10 bump.

[Anonymous No.]

All right, I've managed to secure a deal with /uuu/ and expand /who/'s territory.
Territory to be annexed is pic related under planned negotiations. The rest of /uuu/ would be a religious unorganized state under the military, economic, and diplomatic protection of /who/.
Here is how the negotiations took place.
>>19779603
>>19780346
>>19780451
>>19780480
>>19780558
>>19780722
>>19781008
>>19781083
>>19781389
>>19781449

Anchoring
>>19687967

[Anonymous No.]

>>19781946
>/uuu/ get Crimea'd

[Anonymous No.]

/uuu/
From our end we've come to the conclusion, given the little to no interest in participating in this project to the extent most of you do, to go into an agreement with /who/ to take the land asked for in this post: >>19779603 as long as they ensure the protection of what is left of our territory.
It seems fitting to have a small state that functions like the vatican for the church of Fauna. The center of power for our religion.
I highly doubt our influence will touch politics so, there shouldn't need to be a highly developed lore such as /who/'s.
Maybe i could try and come up with some ideas as to what the religion would be about but it being mostly an individual endeavor by a midwit, it'll require time.
For now we remain under the protection of /who/ so we don't slow down the project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19782313
Would /uuu/ be interested in trading /nasa/'s wheat for fruits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19781946
Made a nicer look at overall geopolitic change.
>>19782022
It was a mutually agreed, peaceful resolution, all for a greater tomorrow.
>>19782313
We are grateful for your cooperation. We'd love it if you could develop /uuu/'s religion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19782396
Sure, why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19782022
The love of Fauna for Mumei is such, she would give her that much land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19782604
Since you're close enough to /nasa/ we can bring baked bread and pastries directly too you. If you just want raw ingredients then we have flour, yeast, sugar beet sugar, and maple syrup. Also we do plan on mining in the tundra. We're hoping to get enough fuel to lift the station out of the crater and use the crater as a quarry. /nasa/ wants to harm the natural environment as little as possible because we're still studying it for resources. We don't plan any invasions to any territories outside of what we claimed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19782949
Since /uuu/ is now under our protection, /who/'s now got safe passage to /nasa/ and around without having to pay the tolls from /rrat/, this means a shorter trip for any traders that want to do business between our nations and /nasa/ can get cheaper resources and foodstuffs from /who/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19781946
>/who/ is trying to speedrun the industrial age
>/who/ is attempting to pry technological secrets from /nasa/
>/who/ is starting a nonhostile takeover of /uuu/
>/who/ already annexed land from Hoshiyomia previously
>/who/ has a cannibalistic /meat/ sect in their ranks
I'm starting to get a little scared of /who/ now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19783243
We can assure you there is nothing to fear, we are only trying to establish strong and healthy relations with our neighbours and it has all been done through peaceful means. Also, our cannibal sect is rather disconnected from /meat/ proper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19783179
Its more like /who/ doesn't need to ask permission anymore to cross /uuu/ to get to /nasa/. /uuu/ could always walk north and say hi.

>>19783243
I read that hoomans commit crimes for Mumei. That said /nasa/'s prime directive prohibits sharing technology with other nations. We can share manufactured goods like space sealed food and art pieces. We're planning on polishing meteorites for sale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19783179
/uuu/ is happy to trade with both /nasa/ and /who/ to the extent that our commitment to protect nature allow us, as stated here: >>19781389 we're mostly unorganized beyond religion if you find a settlement of druids, they will trade be it hoomans or sanalites for sure, but to hold trade agreements you require a government that druids don't have. Like i said, it would be required of me to craft something you can all work with, hoomans have freedom of movement in /uuu/ for the most part, so their merchants can handle the sourcing of goods required by /nasa/ from both /uuu/ and /who/ and vice-versa.

[Anonymous No.]

By the way, last time i saw a kronie invite IRyStocrats to come and take part in this project, he wasn't received well nor they showed any interest.
Any changes since then?
Did any show up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19784274
/nasa/ is interested in trading for fruits, specifically berries so they can make delicious fruit smoothies and fruit pies and cakes. We understand /uuu/ probably won't be organized for a massive trade. We were thinking about cooking the food on the border so we can share it fresh with /uuu/ and /who/. We could probably make a holiday out of sharing fruit smoothies and pies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19784608
I don't recall any /HiRyS/ reps making an appearance and a quick glance at the archive confirms they don't have any lore yet, so I guess not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19783243
>/who/ already annexed land from Hoshiyomia previously
It was a mutual agreement

[Anonymous No.]

Thinking about making a holiday for council by inviting /rrat/, /infinity/, /who/, /uuu/, and /nasa/ on council's anniversary for celebration. Thoughts? Watch out for the anti-clock.

[Anonymous No.]

So I've been thinking about /nasa/ having blenders. It shouldn't be too far fetched of a technology right? I know /nasa/ could tap into the escape pod's solar panels for power. But I was thinking about making blenders with clockwork. Vegetable and fruit smoothies could be a modern treat for the antique man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19786316
Oh, I'll bet it was.
>/who/ takes land from their neighbors in exchange for their "protection"
>Boy, it sure is a nice city you've got here. Sure would be a shame if some raiders were to come by and raze it down.
>Please, we've done what you asked! We're trading all we've got with you, I swear!
>Hey now, no need to get hysterical. I'm just saying, attacks happen. I hear some /meat/ berserkers were spotted sailing near here. Who knows, maybe they'll be giving you a visit in the near future.
>Haven't you gotten enough from us? We had a trade deal!
>Tariffs have gone up. Your goods don't have as much value as they used to. But hey, we're a peaceful nation. There's no need for our countries to fight over this. Just give us a little bit of land, and we'll make sure your beautiful cities stay intact. Sounds like a more than fair trade to me. So, what do you say?
>Fine, take it. Not like we have a choice.
>Well of course you have a choice! And you chose right. Don't you worry, as long as you stay under our wing and don't ruffle any feathers, I'm sure we'll get along just fine. /who/ takes care of its own after all.
They're a bunch of masked bandits and mobsters, anon. Too cowardly to even show their faces. Don't be fooled by their talk of "peaceful resolutions", that's always how it starts. They'll show their true colors soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19787532
This is why you always sign treaties with absolute laws stating what nations can or cannot do in the agreement. Yes even /nasa/ has lawyers. That's why we haven't gotten any agreement with /who/ on territory. Only trade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19787532
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you really think that Hoshiyomia couldn't defend against anyone? If that happened (which it didn't) Hoshiyomia could've defended itself since they have a strong militia and a powerful navy
Btw, to the /who/ representative, we have to talk about borders again now that you have more coast

[Anonymous No.]

>>19787978
I know if /nasa/ enters an agreement with territory then they will want everything in writing on paper, or parchment if that's your medium. Even the trade agreement we're drafting up with /who/, /uuu/, /rose/, and KFP will be written on paper and parchment.

[Anonymous No.]

So about the blender/mixer. I did some research. Technically the blender was invented in the 1910s as an electrical device. However I did find some videos about hand cranked blenders. If the clockwork and gearbox can be made small enough then it should be possible to make these. I'm asking if this tech is too advanced for the period.

https://youtu.be/A1GaeunEBV8

[Anonymous No.]

>>19787532
What a bunch of rubbish and lies, to think that our neighbours are indefensible against us shows a complete lack of understanding of the geopolitical realities of our area, you are someone that simply tries to sow the seeds of conflict across the continent, and to end it all you even mock our masks, your potshots show what you know, absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19787978
Sure, tell what you wish to talk about.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19786340
I like it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19789356
IIRC, one of the complaints when discussing the territory change was that /who/ lacked coast, but now that /uuu/ gave /who/ more coast to the North, I ask, can this be reversed and give Hoshiyomia back the land? If not, maybe something like picrel works too since I like the concept of an open bay and right now it's too "closed off", I don't know if that would be the word I'm looking for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19790583
the land exchange won't be reversed, but if that picrel is all you ask for, then that can easily be arranged for. An "open" bay on Hoshiyomia looks good too

[Anonymous No.]

>>19789968
I guess I need to talk to /rrat/ to see if they want to celebrate a holiday.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Paging /nasa/ rep. Would your country be open to a defense pact with /∞/? If both our countries agree to it, Infinity would recognize /nasa/'s sovereignty and national borders, and aid in defending them as well as help in keeping your advanced tech out of the wrong hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>19791868
At the moment we are waiting to see if the Niji yab escalates into war between Holo and Niji. If it looks like war is inevitable then we will look into it. Also a defense pact implies /nasa/ will come to /infinity/'s aid when they are attacked. We're too focused on rebuilding to offer any meaningful support at this time. We also need to find the weapons vault and fast. How is /infinity/'s relationship with /who/? They're one of out close trading partners. We're open to trade flour and sugar with /infinity/. And we will take a small sample of Kronii milk for research.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19792200
From my understanding of /who/ securing a territroy annexation from /uuu0, and talk of protection rackets, it may see the Republic is looking to their neighbors to expand. That includes you guys, and /∞/ is interested in keeping them from expanding. We're ready to deploy soldiers to your border should you ask, and accept refugees if needed.
>How is /infinity/'s relationship with /who/?
Not particularly good or bad, but we see them expanding into other council splits and are ready for the worst.
>We're open to trade flour and sugar with /infinity/. And we will take a small sample of Kronii milk for research.
Excellent! Thank you. I hope our countries will be closer thanks to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19792200
You should consider >>19792438 's offer. These are troubling times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19792438
>>19792612
What blatant propaganda, not a single shot has been fired by any side and currently the Republic enjoys an inmensely healthy alliance with all our neighbours, from the spacemen to the naval experts of Hoshiyomia, you are just looking for excuses to project your power over our neighbours for a perceived threat. Personally, that sounds like you're trying to build an empire.

[Anonymous No.]

Would it be weird if I started writing lore via stories? I think it would be cool to organically introduce new things about /rose/ by having them be told through a Rosebuta's perspective, but I don't know if that's a generally accepted method for this kind of stuff. I've also got the next normal blurb for their lore written out, enough to flesh out a proper backdrop I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19792933
That's pretty cool, actually. Go ahead!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19792902
>Crimea'd Hoshiyomia
>Annex'd another country (/uuu/) in secret
>Threatening to pull a Ukraine on /nasa/
>Now trying to play the victim when they're the aggressor
/who/ confirmed to be the Russians of this world.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19792902
No offense but you're the ones expanding territory into your neighbors. We don't assue you have ill intent but /∞/ will err on the side of caution and offer assitance to your neighbors
>19792933
worked for /meat/ronie!

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19792902
No offense but you're the ones expanding territory into your neighbors. We don't assue you have ill intent but /∞/ will err on the side of caution and offer assitance to your neighbors
>>19792933
worked for /meat/ronie!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19793118
I thought you guys were isolationist?

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19793212
we pretend to be cool and aloof like our oshi but i think we're just lonely

[Anonymous No.]

>>19792438
Once /nasa/ reclaims its weapons then ground warfare won't be that much of a threat. We have a good bottleneck for ships as you need ice breakers to land the north beach. Plus /who/ would still have to pass through Fauna's forests natural defenses of giant trees and savage beasts. There's the /rrat/ mountain ranges, but the monks are tougher than their banter.

As for our defenses... Our escape pods are bullet proof to your guns. They're resistant to powder kegs and grenados as well. We have spear like stun rods which can be set to either stun or kill. While we don't have much ammo our guns are fairly accurate and deadly. Plus our space suits have bullet absorbing technology. So we can take a shot or five before rounds penetrate the suit. Space men here are nice and chill and welcome visitors. However we will (and have) use deadly force against anyone who dares raid our station. We faired well against the schizos so far. If /who/ wants some of our territory then we can negotiate like civil men on our terms. So far we're not interested in selling territory because we are still surveying the land. Like Sana /nasa/ is near impossible to push around. I think /who/ understands because the've been friendly with us so far.

Also we're interested in /infinity/'s clockwork. We need very specific gearboxes to rebuild our crank mixers we can use to liquify fruits and vegetables, as well as knead dough faster than by hand.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19793436
I understand. If it takes too long to find your weapons, /∞/ is just a boat ride away. I also wanted to mention we don't expect you to protect us in turn should we be attacked - our position is easily defended and our shores are lined with fortresses, patrolled by near-impervious ironclads. If anything, this proposed pact would benefit you greatly and all we'd ask is good will and the chance to temper /who/'s power in the mainland.
>Also we're interested in /infinity/'s clockwork. We need very specific gearboxes to rebuild our crank mixers we can use to liquify fruits and vegetables, as well as knead dough faster than by hand.
Well I'm all ears. What could you offer in trade for such technology? I'll run it by infinity to see if they like your offer, and get back to you when it's been decided.

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>>19793436
Not trying to wave my dick. We still don't have a navy nor enough men to stage an invasion ourselves. Just saying you're lucky we landed in front of the Schizo Wastes. We have means of self defense. Still Sana commands us to befriend everyone we meet. And /who/ has to try our potato bread when we make it. Its super yummy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19793057
Is this your attempt at turning the public against us? It sure is pathetic.
Hoshiyomia was more than fairly compensated for the land grab, they were a nation that heavily depended on fishing activities, but thanks to our trade agreement and alliance, they now have a multitude of foods available to them, in addition to inconditional support from our navy.
/uuu/ was not annexed even when they were the ones that sprang up the offer, and instead their independence was respected as you can see in these posts, do refer to these particular posts: >>19781946
>>19782313
and we have never threatened /nasa/ or any of our neighbours by any forceful means, all cooperation has been based on respect by mutual means and we have always done peaceful agreements.

>>19793118
I'd say your doing a whole lot more than "erring" on the side of caution, and instead trying to spin it around to make us seem like a bigger threat than we really are. I do not think you understand the geopolitics of the western coast of the continent enough to keep making diplomatic plays like these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19794067
Just like Russia is 'freeing' Crimea a silver tongue doesn't hide poison fangs.
>>19783243

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19794067
You understand then how it feels to be accused of warmongering when you're only securing your borders, just as /∞/ was. Regardless, our offer to /nasa/ still stands. We would like a good relationship with at least one Council nation, and /uuu/ turned down our offer before you made yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19794223
Being accused of being a warmongering nation by the one that was accused of the very same thing is silly, as i hope you can understand, we could also have good relations with each other, you know, we do have an interest in your clockwork technology, but as long as you keep trying to accuse us, we won't be able to establish proper communications, you see.

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>>19794067
I did have to bring up that invading /nasa/ is not a very good idea for anyone. I think we have a very solid trade agreement trading wheat (to feed cattle), flour, wheat beer, sugar beet sugar, and syrup for cattle, vegetables, and fruits. We'll even share the foods you can make.

>>19793711
We managed to dig up and polish meteorites that landed in the region. If we don't have hard assets to trade then perhaps you will accept meteorites as treasure. Finding intact meteorites is more rare than gemstones sometimes. I'm sure there's value in meteorites as a commodity.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19794416
We're not accusing you of anything, just trying to play it safe. It'd be ideal if /nasa/ is protected by us both given their small size, and (current) lack of advanced weaponry.

I'll have to go for a while but I'm interested in what /who/ could offer in exchange for clockwork technology. Later, I'll run it by infinity to see if they're interested

[Anonymous No.]

All /ybc/ fisherman now have a license to fish in /yeah/ waters. /ybc/ fisherman can redeem their license to fish in our waters in the Office of Resources in our capital of /SCAM/. Thank you for your cooperation and trade with us. Cheers to our continued cooperation and prosperity.

-/yeah/ representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19794868
Before you leave: Meteorites for gearboxes, yes or no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19767073
>both of them found the others company pleasant and interests aligned, so they founded their own nation free of the rivalry between their former empires
I feel that it's too convenient that both Anyans and Petrans are all buddy-buddy from the get go; I think the more interesting scenario is for them to be (at most) indifferent towards each other, with only few citizens identifying as 'Petranyans'.

[Anonymous No.]

Would /who/ be interested in a treaty promising not to expand any further, after annexing /uuu/? And perhaps all of council can enter a defense pact where we protect each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19795027
You forgot your tripcode bud...

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19794976
>>19794529
I'll run it by infinity, then get their feedback. Normally we make polls run for 24 hours, so I'll get back to you on this by then. Thank you!

By the way, do the meteorites have any special properties? Are they made from strong or durable materials? Or is it purely for aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.]

For those interested this is what polished meteorites look like sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19794868
In exchange for clockwork technology, we'd be able to offer strong agricultural deals that mean /infinity/ would never have to deal with hunger, as i understand that the Island in which /infinity/ resides holds little land that can be used for such purposes, of course, we'd like to know what are some of the clockwork products you use and sell.

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>>19795334
Interesting, but infinity can feed itself just fine with our native potatoes and cabbages. Not saying no outright, though. Do you have anything else for trade, while we flesh out what we are willing to sell with our advanced technology?

Oh, and please consider >>19795027. I forgot my trip and to reply to you with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19795292
It seems most meteorites are made from iron and nickel. You're better off digging up iron if you want steel. Some meteorites have Chuubanite mixed in. We're keeping those for ourselves for research. What meteorites are is stones that fall from space that crash into earth. Most meteors burn away in the atmosphere. Then the meteors that do land sometimes shatter upon impact. It is very rare to find big chunks of meteorites. Most meteorites that are preserved are buried in the earth. Sometimes sand, water, and the elements erodes the meteorites away into nothing. So the meteorites we do find intact are very special. Like gifts from heaven. Because of how meteorites are made they are hundreds of times more valueable than asteroids, or in lamen's terms space rocks.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19795027
To flesh this out - in general, infinity takes a hard stance supporting any nation's sovereign right, just as we defended our own historically and against schizo separatists. With our oshi being in the Council, we'd like to extend this mindset to our fell Council generals in the mainland, and offer means for all of us to protect each other's borders.

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>>19795803
I feel like you'd have better luck selling these to Hoshiyomia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19795863
If you're really good at metalworking you could forge meteorites into beautiful looking art pieces and swords. Nickel is what you use to forge Damascus Steel.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19795803
Thank you. These do sound very interesting.

For both /who/ and /nasa/, I will continue to wait on infinity so maximize engagement and ensure any decision we make is the decision of the whole thread.

As a side note, some kronies are proposing that we only trade our clockwork technology with close allies. Please consider our offers for defense pacts when asking to trade for clockwork

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>>19795803
NTA but using meteorites as a source of iron is rather wasteful and unreliable, considering that intact meteorites are much more valuable as collector items/research subjects/religious items than a source of raw material. Plus, I think /inf/ probably has one of the more advanced industrial bases when it comes to metallurgy, so they would have better steel than /nasa/ can make (at an industrial scale, at least).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19778425
Judaism

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>>19795643
>>19795027
>>19795831
We do have a thriving machine parts and cloth industry. We've also got leather production. But if your trade agreement requires binding the Republic to the treaty, then it will not take place.
Such a treaty is not in consideration, we've already got trade and non-agression pacts with all of our neighbours, so it is not necessary, I believe it is simply used to justify your unwarranted aggresion against the diplomatic integrity of our nations. Please refrain from using such transparent excuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19796330
We're selling meteorites as treasure. Not as a resource. That said once its in /infinity/'s hands then they can do whatever they want with it. They could probably figure out how to make Damascus steel artpieces better than we can. Hell we still have trouble forging meteorites even with a modern forge.

https://youtu.be/DITY1WzbLj8

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>>19796577
The defense pact would include defending you too, and I'm sure our advanced navy would come in handy in protecting your own interests. We mean no offense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19796794
Again, there simply isn't any need, for our current alliances are already strong enough, no offense taken.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19797032
I'm glad for that then. Personally I hope we accept the deal without the pacts. Kroniissiah knows we need better relations with others after the falseflagger was ousted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19796168
Then I guess /nasa/ is on their own making parts if a defense pact is required to order them. It'd be nice if we can get the parts comissioned to be manufactured first. But if that's not an option then /nasa/'s just going to have to hand forge parts. We still have some blenders and mixers in the station but it would be nice to make more. Especially if we're going to be grinding more flour and sugar.

I hate the prime directive sometimes and the systems that enforce it.

[/∞/ !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19797157
I'm sorry to hear that. But hopefully the polls go in favor of saying yes without the pact. We'll know by this time tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19774002
>bad ends
>/meat/s deicide
i'd say the worst bad end is the apocalypse that would happen if not for /meat/'s deicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19797274
/nasa/ doesn't have a lot of people. We're able to plow and grow as much as we do because of capital. But once that capital breaks down we have no easy way of fixing them. We're hoping to trade enough assets to get started buying resources we need to rebuild. We can't go all in on full automation. We can make powered hand tools that makes things easier.

[Anonymous No.]

What sort of crop can be grown in a humid continental climate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19797664
South American crops I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19797664
Rye, oat, barley, and potato should be the main food crops that can be grown there. You might also be able to get some wheat. For non-food crop, beet, flax, apple, pears, and hemp should be viable too.

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty rough around the edges, but honestly I just want to get it out there so I can start work on what I really want to write. Here's a bit more on Rosebutas!

In old times, when /rose/ was nothing but tribal territory, Rosebutas walked on a lush landscape of beautiful flowers and warm sun. Rosebutas lived pleasant, casual lives in houses built of stone. Their lives were kept safe by using Rosestones, a special type of rock they could frequently find in caves. However, at some point a disaster shook them and changed their world forever. A plague struck which crippled plantlife and the Rosebuds. Quick to follow was an intense cold which killed off most remaining life, minus the Rosebuds themselves. Despite the harshness of their new environment, they found themselves surviving by retreating into an old cave system. It was quiet there and the heat of Rosestones kept them safe from the cold.
With nowhere else to go, they went deeper into the depths and came to call it their new home. Rosebuds refined Rosestone into tools, using them to carve new tunnels in the underground. These tunnels grew in size quickly, becoming giant circular paths they could use to move around. They created large domes that tunnels connected to, for living and trading. These domes became popular community hubs, residential and commercial areas. Rosestones became their primary source of light and energy, a stone battery of sorts. They crafted railways with handcrank powered carts, allowing quicker movement throughout, and a number of weapons both normal and peculiar. Over the course of many decades, Rosebuds transformed from a species that thrived on the plains to a species which preferred dwelling underground.
But not all Rosebutas were appeased by their new home. Some desired to roam above like their ancestors, traveling around the bitter cold. They wrap themselves in thick furred clothing with Rosestones lining the outside. They walk among the ancient places of their past, scavenging what they can and fighting other surface dwellers for relics. These Rosebutas rarely return below ground and typically only ever for trading. They could be considered as a different section of Rosebuds, enjoying a nomadic culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19797916
Could peppers grow? Peppers in a world of salted everything is a godsend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19798678
>>19687967
I anchor'd this post for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19798998
Thanks! I keep forgetting to do that, I'm a bit dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19798891
Pepper is from the tropics, so they probably can't survive your winter seasons. Sorry.

>>19798678
Looks pretty good so far! What kind of tools (apart from lights) are made of rosestones? Also, it'll be interesting to see how the two types (subspecies? cultures?) of Rosebutas interact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19799173
Could look into growing corn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19799173
Glad you asked! I'll be introducing those in my next post, which is the start of the story I'm going to write! I've got a lot of plans, from "guns" to large mining drills that create more tunnels! Don't worry though, I'm planning to balance things appropriately. For example, the large mining drills will be rudimentary in nature, faster than a crew but too slow to be used offensively, and consume a HUGE amount of energy when used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19799471
As long as you don't have a combustion engine it could work. Tech is capped at late 1700s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19799636
Easy peasy! I was already working under the assumption that was the case, which is why I didn't use the idea of trains or anything like that. Railroads with manual carts seemed ideal to me and if I introduce any more modern concepts like railroads, I'll be limiting the technology itself to turn it into a more rudimentary version of the concept that fits the time period better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19799382
Maize is grown in Manchuria, so it's not totally out of the question. I think the warmer area can support it as long as there're at least 120 frost-free days according to Google. Won't say it's an improvement for salted diet, though.

>>19799471
Given /rose/'s climate, I assume a good chunk of the soil underground will be some kind of permafrost (especially in the south). Maybe the rosestone drilling machines also work by using the heat generated by rosestone to help the drilling process? with some processing the resulting water will be rich in mineral and probably hot enough for hot spring baths

[Anonymous No.]

>>19800074
Irish grain whiskey could be a product then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19800186
Yes, many crops can be used to make alcohol, and I guess if Frostpunk is of any indications, alcohol makes everything better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19801229
If you can grow maize then you can brew some potent alcohol for both drinking and medicine. You can even brew ethanol which is highly flammable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19801330
You can also do that with barley, rye, and wheat, which is more likely to grow well in humid continental climate. Apparently people also make alcohol out of beet and it tastes pretty good too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19791080
That's fair. Also, that's too much land, but I used paint nonchalantly. What I was asking for is more around the coastline, like before

[Anonymous No.]

>>19801707
So you mean something like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19802383
More parallel to the coast

[Anonymous No.]

>>19802692
Yeah i think that works out, I'm fine with making the land exchange then. Should i anchor it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19802842
Probably, do you know how to do the new border properly? I mean, making it look natural and all of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19803122
No, not really, guess I'll just anchor it for now and we wait for a mapanon to modify the borders.

ANCHORING
>>19802692
>>19687967

[Anonymous No.]

>>19793436
>>19687967
Before I forget I should anchor this. Damn insomnia.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

teaser

[Anonymous No.]

>>19807067
Aw yiss, can't wait

[Anonymous No.]

Bumperonii

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687967
Potential endings for the world of /vt/, not all of them, just ones I know of.
https://files.catbox.moe/7u27bd.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>19809781
what was /og/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19809781
Ah fuck I typo'd in a couple panels. Fixed
https://files.catbox.moe/iyrf02.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>19809994
the ultimate RETVRN

[Anonymous No.]

>>19810035
I never thought the map thread would make me tear up a little

[Anonymous No.]

>>19809781
>/vspo/ - /hfz/ eternal war
YOOOOOO based!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19809781
Theme for "/meat/ Deicidal Rampage"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1uLHqQy2IY
The lyrics are weirdly fitting:
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/dethklok/bloodlines.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19812285
bit edgy, desu, but i guess the lyrics do describe us fairly well.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for the bump gods

[Anonymous No.]

bump for the bump throne

[Anonymous No.]

Fee fii foo bump
Yo where is everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19815670
bro it's 6am

[Anonymous No.]

>>19815670
New courses started at my Uni, busy times. Been only able to lurk the past week or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19815670
Everyones dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>19818433
Oh god, which ending did we end up in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19819499
a world devoid of gods and worshippers to wage wars seems like a good, earthly end for the universe

[Anonymous No.]

>>19767073
anya-petra quickly formed an alliance to wage a war against their former empire

[Anonymous No.]

>>19820799
hows the war against two major empires going

[Anonymous No.]

Just how big exactly is this world? I know some people said it could be earth sized. Was that agreed on?

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>>19687967
Infinity has gotten some lore out today

>Priestesses and their Hierarchy
https://rentry.org/nr4ty

>Priestess Holy Byproducts
https://rentry.org/p7sww

[Anonymous No.]

>>19822576
Distance bottom right

[Anonymous No.]

>>19823521
Thanks anon. Do we have one for the complete map?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19823569
None actually
It should be included. In fact someone good at maths please calculate the continent's size

[Anonymous No.]

we're past bump limit btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19824013
NO MORE BUMPS!? THE BOAT IS SINKING!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19823521
>>19823569
>>19823652
Which map did you use to take that piece? The ones I'm seeing all all of different scale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19824156
the one from the first thread
>>/vt/thread/S16710105

[Anonymous No.]

>>19822576
>>19823521
I suggest we just rule that the planet be earth-sized. It makes everything nice and simple for climate, ecology, and tectonics, unless ofc, any arising issues are handwaved away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19824458
don't think there'll be many issues apart from the majority of countries being large-ish

[Anonymous No.]

>>19824523
That depends on how much the size (and mass) differ from earth

[Anonymous No.]

>>19824442
Any chance someone could apply it to the current map? I have zero confidence in doing it correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

new thread doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19825856
Here: >>19825976
I'll do the archive after work...