/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

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Previous: >>19450291

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

2x Map: https://files.catbox.moe/7l45om.png
EX Map: https://files.catbox.moe/2v0vvs.png

>!!! THIS FILE MAY REQUIRE 5.5GB RAM TO OPEN UNCOMPRESSED!!!
>The map size is 54,000 x 27,000 pixels
>It is highly advised to "Right-click > Save target as" this image
>It is the largest filesize catbox will allow (186MB download, 195MB on disk)
>This map is to facilitate hamlet/village/town/city/etc. placement

CURRENT GOAL: Discuss chuubanite: https://rentry.org/buk5e

>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

CLIMATE POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Current Current Map
https://files.catbox.moe/2qe5hh.jpg
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/zo5ke

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE PROMPTS
https://rentry.org/7nt3b

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's missing/outdated/duplicate lore in OP!

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I made another thread for you guys. I'll keep an eye on this thread for you since no-one made a new thread before last general died.

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I made a first draft of this map for hoi4.
It needs a lot of work but I thought I'd post it anyway. Not sure if anyone else has already made something like this yet. I'll add to it over the weekend.

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>>19572342
>those islands
Oh god, you've alerted the horde. Be prepared for a Kronie meltdown.

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>>19572602
he was probably working on it for a while, i'm sure he'll fix it up now that he knows.

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>>19572602
Its a draft. Which means its a WIP. And kronie schizos can kiss my ass.

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>>19572803
Based!

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>>19572823
Not the anon who made the map. Kronie schizos can still kiss my ass.

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>>19572861
Lewd!

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>>19572861
Cheers, I'd let a Kronie kiss my ass too. They could even do some ass worship with it, if they wanted.

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Obviously the lore Kronies are fine. I'm referring to the baid faith ones. You know who you are. I digress.

I doubt we'll have much success with gravity manipulation with vitubium. But it would be nice if we can create heavy lifting hovering machines somehow. Magnetic rails might be interesting. Though the more weight you want to carry the more energy you need.

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>>19573434
could you use superconductivity as a form of levitation instead? it's magnetism, which might not be as space related as the curvature of space and time, but it still has a strong connection to physics and cosmology.

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>>19573559
I'll have to look into it. If we can get anything that hovers then it should help carrying stuff over the tundra.

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>>19574223
isn't the magnetic force technically stronger than the gravitational force though both are weaker than the weak and strong nuclear forces. superconductivity probably wouldn't let you carry massive structures, but if i am not mistaken, someone in japan was thinking about making a train using superconductivity to keep the train off the tracks, making it far easier to move, and thus faster. if you guys set up a sort of cold, magnetic highway, you might be able to haul fairly large structures with that process if you needed to. the problem would be the cost of keeping it cool which, from a physics perspective, is really just how to keep it from getting any warmer so you would probably want to only use it occasionally for the big loads you absolutely can't move yourself.

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>>19574706
As long as we can use it for light loads without using too much power and thus generating heat it should be fine. We're not looking for full on freight trains. We're looking for something to haul loads of flour and ore quickly over a long distance. Though if it requires 4th industrial revolution technology then we're out of luck. 3rd industrial tech maybe possible. It really depends on how we can wire the power supply.

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/∞/ here, we're currently working on our flags.

>>19572342
Cool map you made, if you can add our island, that would be great. And thanks.

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>>19575308
depending on how efficient the energy usage of chuubanite is, you might be able to have an energy generation system that doesn't produce much heat, which could keep magnets cold enough for superconductivity, pretty sure the rentry made it seem like tjat wouldn't work, though.

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Does anyone have the updated territory map and the updated terrain map?

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Both mourns and celebrations can be heard throughout Sakuran today, the night before the Shrine Priestess' birthday, as she bestowed upon the High Priests a devastating oracle. Though cryptic as always, said oracle seemed to imply that the differences between the Sakuran and Pekoland deities are yet to be resolved, further straining the already distanced relationship of the two nations. Though some final hope had remained for the PekoMiko supporters both in Sakuran and the neighboring MiComet zone, the words received today seem to have cause many believers to lose their faith. On the other hand, 35p that disliked the PekoMiko faction, many of them MiComet supporters, started celebrating, often harassing coping PekoMiko passersbys. These altercations were used as an excuse by the residents of the MiComet zone to go on yet another rampage, wrecking havoc in nearby nations, even boarding international vessels to spread their own propaganda. This, in turn, caused the revolt of the small number of remaining PekoMiko residents of the MiComet zone refer to >>19409616, anchoring >>19570746 this btw, since Hoshiyomia didn't seem to answer, if someone can put it under micomet that'd be great, as well as some Fandead refugees that moved into the zone the past few weeks after the Necromancer's fall from grace, who performed numerous raids locally. However, things seem to be already calming down at a good pace, and preparations for the festival in honor of the Shrine Priestess are proceeding as normal.

In other n-
>*door slams open*
>>19563746
>>19563892
>>19564030
>>19564112
>*door closes*
>*chuckling slowly dies down*
Aaas I was saying, in other news, a wealthy Sakuran merchant das me has recently donated a significant amount of materials to the land of Horni, as a gesture of friendship. Said merchant seems to have been a generous donor for a long while, and his contributions have been recognized by the nation to such a degree that a permanent position as a sponsor has been granted to him. I maintain a mega in that thread, recent update is >>19467588, do visit if you want to take some edge off. This recent contribution is special, as the material of a Sakuran community hero by the name of "にゃん", who was thought to only produce SFW content until recently, have been added for all to enjoy.

--cut feed--
Been away for a couple of days, was feeling a bit burned out. Anything significant happen in the last thread? Two matters I wanna put forth right now are, the exchange of rose and nijikr and the exchange of mion and fbk. I think both of these changes would make sense and ease the load on rose, though if they want to follow the nasa route and purposeful put themselves in adverse conditions that's their choice.

This is also a flagpost, I'm using this one cause I cba to make another one, if I think of something better I'll make corrections or something

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>>19577078
For energy, I'm looking for conductivity. If chuubanite/vitubium gets me a more conductive alloy for magnetism for cheaper then the cost will be worth it. But first /nasa/ needs chuubanite/vitubium before any railings are possible.

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>>19577382
what would you want to trade for it?

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I hope /rose/ is still here. I wonder if they're interested in having a subterranean garden. They can have sunstones linked up to sun catchers above ground. The sunstones bring sunlight underground which creates the underground garden. Underground is just as bright as above ground. Thoughts?

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>>19577382
>railings
I can see /nasa/ using small rails inside their ship, but honestly the industrial requirements for rails outside their ship (the harsh terrain certainly doesn't help) are far too much, you'd probably have to ask for assistance from nearby nations... /who/ is certainly interested in helping!

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>>19577542
No trades on minerals until we know what we have locally. Space station scrap is not for sale until we know we can secure the metal from local or close sources. I have a hunch the chuubanite I'm looking for with the properties I want is meteorite. Judging from the geology report from the crater we have found buried meteorites where we landed. Now this doesn't mean that an extinction event happened. But there was a meteor shower where many of the meteorites hit the ground. They're really tiny meteorites. But they'll be useful when we dig them up.

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>>19577357
That's neat, sakuran is basically in an Alsace-Lorraine situation between Hoshiyomia and Pekoland

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I'm hoping if there's one thing /nasa/ is allowed to have its meteorites. Tundras are great places to preserve meteorites because there's no flora l, rain, and sands to break and weather the meteorites when they're buried. Some of the meteorites could be made with chuubanite but its not as efficient as mining a vein

>>19577357
Which era of Japan Sakuran is in?

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Republic Owl/ Respublika Filin / Republique Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
And it's Navy.

The Republic's strategy and naval doctrine is dictated by the large port that it uses for imports and exports alongside it's relatively small coastline in comparison to it's neighbours, unable to build up a Navy due to the early wars of the Republic's existence, it is only recently that the naval wing of the armed forces has been established.
Seeing these constraints, the Navy was built up to mainly wage a commerce war, where the ships will be used to interrupt the logistics of the enemy, raid their shipping, and divert the enemy's attention to prevent any blockade from hitting the Republic. Winning every small battle and eventually whittling down the enemy to cripple their naval war capacity while mantaining the integrity of ours.
The ships used are heavy frigates created to pack as much of a punch as they can while still being fast enough to avoid the enemies fighting fleet, in short, increasing the individual strenght of every ship to counteract the smaller numbers of the fleet, in addition to all these points, the use of carronades allows the Navy to also increase the firepower of the ships.
The scientific approach to war and other aspects of the world, prompted by the cult of reason gaining so many followers in the political system of the republic, means that despite a lack of experience in naval warfare doctrine development and work on naval theory has sped up inmensely. This also means that the Republic is very willing to invest in more experimental affairs and ships, such as the submersible prototypes for coastal defence, the use of iron and steel to protect the ships, and the use of alternate power sources for use on the ships and allowing complete independence from sail, althought most of these have shown themselves to still be too expensive for mass production.

The current alliance with Hoshiyomia, the strongest naval power in the western coast of the continent has also allowed the Navy to gain experience and technique, along with joint development for new naval and astronomical technology.

Anchoring
>>19570746

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Uh, I think I'm back representing Hoshiyomia again. I'm going to need a qrd of what's happening right now. I also have to finish the flag, I have an idea and the materials I want to use, but I'm not on PC right now

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>>19578835
[tbd]
Haven't written any official lore other than these two passages, and I'm pretty ignorant of Japanese history so I'd have to look into it. It'd probably match up to the current world era so like 1800s

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>>19579439
Right now, magic system discussion took off, right now it looks like a hard magic system based on a mineral called chuubanite, the tech level seems to have locked in place from 1600's to 1800's, stuffs directly relating to Hoshiyomia includes /who/ including you in some of the lore after the coastline agreement, and Sakuran offering hoshiyomia to write combined lore for your threads along with Pekoland. Do try to give those a read when you get the chance, we also now have an anchor post, so if you write lore, don't forget to reply to that one. Glad you're joining us again!

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>>19579439
Perfect timing. As >>19579698 said, we've elected to use chuubanite/Vitubium[Vt] (name under discussion) as a basis for a limited magic system.
Regarding Hoshiyomia, other than the /who/ stuff, Sakuran has written this >>19577357. If you could read that post and the post in the first spoiler and give me your opinions that'd be great. Are you the same representative as before? If so welcome back

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>>19572342
>Mount Olympus of cunny
UOOOOHH

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>>19579841
Yes, I'm the same one
I'll read it right now and tomorrow once more and I'll try to think of something
I'm going to be honest, I'm ESL. I have no idea how to write too much lore in English, that's why the Hoshiyomia greentext is more descriptive than anything. I'll do it in my language and then I'll machine translate it, fixing errors I see

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>>19579662
Most likely you'll be in Nobunaga's era. I'm not really familiar with Japanese history either.

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>>19580278
>I'm going to be honest, I'm ESL. I have no idea how to write too much lore in English
Don't worry, Sakuran is the same, though the reason we have no lore is cause I'm a lazy fuck with limited writing ability

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>>19580537
Nobunaga was back in the 1500's, althought the
situation can always be adapted to the age of the world

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bump

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>>19580818
My Japanese history is fucking rusty. Either way ninjas have a ton of new tools to play around with in the 1700's. Even more when you include chuubanite.

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>>19572342
My feedback is that the world looks small
For comparison, the north east continent is Eurasia sized

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli No.]

>>19579439
>>19579012
Loving the names, who else has them besides you guys, us, and 35p?

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Events like the /vt/ league or 4chan cup. Do they exist?

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>>19585735
Global sports to flex the skills of our nations. Separate from things like HFZ which are games meant to praise goddesses

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Looks like /nasa/ is disinterested in world building because they're too busy replying to bait threads. One of the anons just like the name NASA. Except now I have to come up with a full name with these letters. Could name the region as NASA then pick a different name for the station as the capital.

Also anyone got the territory map? I should map out /nasa/'s territory. Also is there any objections to /nasa/ finding buried meteorites in the tundra?

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>>19589536
picrel should be the territory map, you should be able to cut out the part you need in combination with the terrain map in OP.

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>>19589840
I'll see what I can do. I think I'll boomer it and hand draw a map. I'm mostly laying out roads, forests, and camps. Should also give me an idea for a quarry.

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>>19589840
AHH WHY HAVE HOSHIYOMIA-REPUBLIC OWL BORDERS NOT BEEN UPDATED YET

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>>19590293
Because no one who knows how to edit it is around/have gotten around to do it yet.

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>>19591203
fuuuuuuck, i just noticed the territory map in the archive hasn't been updated either.

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>>19591306
Because they're the same map. Once/if we get someone to update it, the new version should be archived.

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As long as the meteorites don't have chuubanite is there any interest in the market for polished space rocks?

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>>19593037
Maybe Hoshiyomia. There's a meteorite somewhere on the country (probably the capital, to be decided soon™), but I imagine it'd be a sacred meteorite. Common folks could simply buy rocks from "lesser" meteorites to worship in their homes

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>>19593521
Since the meteorites are buried /nasa/ is going to study them for a while. We'll want to see how many years ago the meteorites were buried. Since meteorites are difficult to forge we figure we can polish the meteorites and sell them as museum pieces. We are going to keep the bigger stones for ourselves. And if the meteorites have Chuubanite like our space sample then you bet we're keeping those. I just hope /nasa/ can find iron and copper. Maybe if we're lucky we can find a chuubanite vein.

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What do if thread's not interested, but i am?

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>>19595898
Which thread?

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>>19595898
Ask later when people are awake

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>>19595898
Then fuck off and don't post you're no the boss of those threads. Hell they're shoving plenty of words into the mouths of a lot of threads.
Kindly fuck off.

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>>19596051
if other threads refuse our invite, might as well assume their role and do with them what we will, right?

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>>19596477
I *really* hope it doesn't mean you're writing their lore for the express purpose of benefiting your own

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You can only write stuff for the thread that you represent. But don't be an asshole and not notify your thread of the things that you write. I write stuff for /nasa/ but they're hardly here. When the thread comes back then I report to them what I wrote. I still have to ask the thread for permissions and referendums on stuff. You still need some input from the thread you're writing for. Someone else will take interest eventually.

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>>19596945
Yeah, for /who/ I just got a check to write all the lore, but I still run things through them and ask for advice and suggestions on how i should structure it all, writing lore for threads that aren't present could cause many issues and is just overall kind of a dick move.

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>>19596859
you don't have to, preferable that you don't, but they aren't going to get to control their side of things if they refuse to enter, and we shouldn't wait for them. think of what you think they would like, and if they don't like it, they should have come while they still had the option.

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>>19597174
Are you, though? If you want to do that, you should at least tell them what you're writing about them in their threads and see if they object. Of course, ideally you should be from that thread as well.

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli No.]

>>19597135
I've sent out a call to my fellow /clg/umis and we'll see where it goes.

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>>19597252
you can do that if you want, but why would they care if they refused to participate?

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>>19597330
It's more a question for those who intend to write lore for other threads, as I myself write exclusively for the one I frequent the most. As for why they would care, well, it's meant to be a representation of their threads, so odds are outsiders should inform them what's being written at the very least.

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>>19597490
ok, i can agree to that. but we still shouldn't have to wait for them if they refuse to join.

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I'm going to have to sleep. Think you can keep my thread up for the night?

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>>19598771
i'm going to bed soon, too. if there is someone else, maybe. otherwise, /meat/ taught me plenty about accepting your losses.

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>>19598771
>>19598860
Uh yeah, about that, I'm thinking the board's about to move real fast these next few hours

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>>19599314
I always have the worst luck making threads.

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>>19599314
shit. i suppose that's one problem of having representatives for each board.

>>19599422
cheer up, you'll get more chances, i'm sure.

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>>19589536
I would love to join you in worldbuilding here, it's just that the last couple of weeks of silence from Sana have left me in a bit of a melancholy, what with her being my first oshi since i found vtubers back in 2020 and all.

That aside, i think the lore you have built up so far is great and you should keep at it!

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>>19599672
Problem is: if Sana doesn't stream then /nasa/ gets no chuubanite. Fossil fuels don't exist. So chuubanite replaces them. /nasa/ could make charcoal and coke from wood. But to get the station airborne we need rocket fuel.

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>>19599968
they can still use chuubanite, but the effect of her magic will be weaker. you can still use it as a power source.

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>>19600125
We need the purer stuff to bond with the rocket fuel we have. With it we can lift the station out of the crater and move it someplace stable. We can even reposition the station how its suppose to be and use all of the rooms again. From there we'll use the crater as a quarry since the hole's already been dug to start mining properly. /nasa/ really is at Sana's mercy.

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>>19600486
it's poetic that sana's streams give you just enough power to go back into space to recieve signals from her. you guys really know how to write a compelling underbreaddog story.

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>>19600703
it's poetic that sana's streams give you just enough power to go back into space to recieve signals from her. you guys really know how to write a compelling underbreaddog story.

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>>19600784
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Sana except /nasa/. Even the other council nations don't really know who Sana is in the pantheon. Yet we're lucky to crash land where we did. Because if we crashed anywhere else then we would be seen as invaders who would be hunted down and genocided. Now we just have to figure out how to handle the schizo raids. They tasted blood with Rushia. Sana is their next target.

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>>19601522
In the case of /who/, the religion is so uncentralized and unorganized that stories of relating to Sana would also be. But most don't forget as all of the Republic clings to the idea of UNITY.

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>>19601522
>schizo raids
>tasted blood with Rushia
/meat/ isn't schizo, though, and they've tasted blood long before rushia. whether or not sana is next depends on how the future plays out.

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>>19601797
No no
The schizos from the polar wastes
/meat/'s chilling in the tropics

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>>19602150
i forgot about them. what did they do to rushia, again?

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>>19602222
Rushia did it all to herself

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>>19602298
then how did the schizos get a taste of her blood?

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>>19602342
I guess her fall could be interpreted in multiple ways according to different nations and relgions. but let's say a massive lightning storm just fucked shit up and razed everything to the ground.

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>>19602991
so rushia's death kicked the hornet's nest?

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>>19601797
Sana just needs to stream. Also if /meat/ continues to surround /nasa/ like vultures then we're going to have a problem.

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>>19603309
when was /meat/ surrounding /nasa/? can you prove it was them, and not, for instance, the schizos or mozzies?

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>>19603366
Its natural. Sana not streaming could mean the talent no longer cares about her contract. When the contract is up talent quits. Sana graduates. And its easy pickings for /meat/. So long as they bring a can opener.

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>>19590293
>>19591203
>>19591306
This map has the border fixed

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If Sana graduates can we say /nasa/ moved on to the stars? I like their lore too much to say they failed and all died...

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>>19570746
>>19603728
Anchoring it then. Don't forget this time Archiver.

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>>19604103
Nope. Sana is the reason they can fly. Without Sana the station goes dark. They're either have to move and make their homes elsewhere in other nations or suffocate. The station's ventilation needs power. No vents means no air. Bread dogs will all die though.

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>>19603717
true, but would she graduate? if she were forcefully graduated, would she not be reborn into a new vessle to continue streaming? if she truly doesn't enjoy streaming, is it not unfair to her to force her to stream for your pleasure? the things that will happen in the future will happen according to the answers to these questions, but regardless, it will be your choice in how you deal with them.

>>19604103
i say that would be fine. if you want, you could justify it in lore by saying that they discovered a way to fly without their god, and that many were lost since they crashed into /vt/land, or you could also say that they were integrated into /vt/land, and learned to let go of their old systems, while helping to discover new ones with the natives. so many options you could take besides saying they all died. but then the question is whether or not they would want it that way.

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>>19604483
The Mozzies have successfully sown seeds of doubt. We are dealing with the possible reality of Sana choosing her day job over streaming. Sana is either not streaming because she can't or she doesn't want to. And Mozzies say Sana hates streaming and doesn't care about her fans. Whether or not this is or is not propaganda it is successful at demoralizing /nasa/. And I'm going to write this into lore because this brings /nasa/ into 5th generational warfare. Which is a war fought with propaganda and influence. Interesting lore.

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>>19570746
It was originally meant to respond to one of the prompts, but it kinds of become an explanation of a semi-fictional ballgame:

People of /meat/ are archetypically interested in extreme sports and blood sports, chief among which is a native ballgame commonly called the /meat/ ballgame (tlachtli or knottleikr). It is played between two teams of players of varying but usually equal numbers. Traditionally played in an elongated field dug out from the ground and surrounded by stone walls, players are armed with wooden sticks with a bent spoon-like hook (think hurley) called the serpent axe (coatlateconi or ormox), where the goal is to deliver a leather ball to the end of the opposite side of the field. Hitting the wall at the ends of the field above waist-height scores one point for the team, where the ball is set back to the middle. In some games, a stone head is rested upon a headless statue at the top of each end. The team that can knock the head off the statue of the other team instantly wins the game, although the height and the relatively small target make such victory rare.

It is illegal to hit other players' bodies with one's own body or the serpent axe, although hitting them with the ball or crossing the axes is legal and very common during the game. As such, players are often seen equipped with light armour usually made of leather and padded cotton when playing the game. Despite that, due to the force often delivered through the ball, bruises and injuries are common among the players, and there are reports of players being killed during the game.

The ballgame is known to have religious significance for the /meat/ cult. It is a common staple of major festivals, often keeping people entertained between ritual sacrifices, and parts of a game, such as the ball and the head on statues, is replaced by remains of sacrifices. The outcome of the games sometimes play a role in subsequent sacrifices as well, as players deemed too injured to be healed are sometimes sacrifices in recognition of their performance. The ballgame also plays a military role, as variants are often played by /meat/ soldiers as part of their training, and the use of serpent axe and ball in the game is often seen as a reflection of their common weapons and tactics.

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>>19605114
TL;DR /nasa/ is actually playing Among Us.

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

Oh the way people weave the dicksword drama into a hlgg/nijien war is gonna be hilarious

Who wants some repeating rifles? I think it's time for the Empire to play Lockheed Simulator...

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>>19608368
Deux Vult!

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>>19606491
NO!

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

>>19608560
The first shipment of 200 Mark IV "Sangarius"-Pattern full-length repeaters has already been sent to Lazulight for the purposes of equipping at least an elite company of their Marines.

We have elected to begin rushing stockpiles of Sangarius carbines, Mark XIX "Crowheart"-Pattern brigandine jackets, and Mark V "Takamatsu"-Pattern cavalry sabers to begin retrofitting /haha/'s harquebusier companies into modern dragoon forces--by the end of the week, they should be able to field a half-tourma of 400 troopers in our style.

If need be, will will dispatch the Canichoran Tagma to bolster the defenses of Nijimale, but in lieu of a military commitment, we are shipping 40 breech-loaded fortress guns, ammunition for two weeks, and half again as many puckleguns for infantry support purposes.

Time to support those who have been friendly to us abroad!

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>>19583552
While I do want an Earth sized map we have two challenges
1. We need to manually draw a map that fits the resolution. With enough detail including non-blocky coasts
2. None of us are pros at paradox modding
Take a look at some HOI mods with custom maps like Make America Again or Equestria At War for example
There's a LOT of work when making a custom map from bmp file coloring to filling out the details of every province and states
I think a smaller scale map could work for MKI, a proof of concept prototype. No need to bite more than we could chew

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>>19608368
What drama? There's a new one already?!

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

>>19610703
actual quote from Vox on Mori's Eikawa stream: "Hololive tech issues in shambles."

from a leaked discord convo, thanks to petra accidentally un-minimizing her window

[Anonymous No.]

>>19610858
Maybe /meat/ was right
We need to cull everyone to stabilize this collapsing platform

[Anonymous No.]

>>19610703
This is a competition. Hololive's side is winning though, it's difficult to defeat a termination

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

guessing this is what's being planned, rn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19611300
I side with /meat/ on this new drama
Nijis? Holos? No matter what kind of gigayab they commit, the winners will always be the indies. Those guys reached enlightenment when we wallow in corpo tribalism

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

>>19611390
hoping this won't go down
to be honest

[Anonymous No.]

>>19604103
We could potentially solve this by going completely rogue and ignoring the Grand directive before things get so bad we lose all our power on the station.

Sell off any and all schematics/tech that isn't needed for the station to fly for pure Chuubanite. Any nation, doesn't matter, all we would care is getting back up to space.

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

>>19611716
>>19611390
If need be, a slave-taking and spoil-looting raid on /morig/ might be in order, our navy's not that advanced in shipbuilding (except our cannons) but we have many experienced sailors and marines; hitting them with a pincer assault designed to maximize economic damage may work--we'd have to land infantry elements from one AND ONLY ONE of the Utanic or Alchemilic Tagmata for coastal operations, but we will need to build another dozen open-sea transport ships to do so. If this happens, the tagma chosen will dispatch their 2nd hyperpyrores tourma, 1st and 3rd kleisouraphylakes tourmai, 8th and 12th banda of sfyriotai, and ALL of the rectrikioi. 3600 troops, who will sweep the northern half of the island IN FORCE, resupply and reinforce at the initial beach-head, (in the form of two more sfyriotai banda and two more steadfaster tourmai), before joining the nijimale forces in storming and plundering the capital. Two days to recuperate and pack everything up, and skedaddle.

We'll need faster escorts and a bigger, badder capitol ship, first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19612479
Oi oi oi!! Youre in our waters, boy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19612479
Several /nasfaqg/ plutocrats will likely get involved if /morig/ were to be attacked - prominent deadbeats and people with mass investment in MORI$ who'd like to defend their assets' worth.

[Megas Domestikos tou Ayakkayoli !!u39ZMg0D71p No.]

>>19612529
We would, of course ask you for permission--slaves taken would be sold in your markets if so desired, in addition to further monetary compensation. The arrows are merely sailing and approach vectors for the blockade, and would only participate if asked to by nijimales.

>>19612658
Fair enough--the raid is primarily meant for burning down residential areas, ruining crops, spoiling lean stockpiles, and taking slaves. We would endeavor not to touch any major investments and foreign merchants would not be molested.

Friendly or neutral ports in which we dock will, of course, mandate our best behavior--unruly, degenerate behavior from our sailors or regulars will be dealt with swiftly and with proper recourse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19612794
Sounds like a military-caused depreciation in the value of returns of MORI$. I don't see how thinning the workforce or causing famine with a military raid wouldn't affect our capital in the area. Moreover, some plutocrats would get involved solely due to being Deadbeats, or being aligned with Deadbeats.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn /meat/'s going all out killing gods left and right
You okay there, buddy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19613859
Yes
Theme song time: https://youtu.be/YlmPe335L2M

[Anonymous No.]

>>19613077
Ah but my fellow merchant, you aren't thinking about this clearly!
Deadbeat loveslaves are highly sought after commodity in the Serene Republic, so buying them off cheaply from /meat/ and other powers and selling them at much higher prices to lonely plutocrats would be a great opportunity make some profits!

Furthermore, have you considered making investments in rebuilding of the island after the war? I'd imagine there would be some potential profits, especially long term ones, to be made there!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19614497
I don't know if /meat/ would actually sell slaves, since if anyone knows how to utilise human resources no matter their performance, it would be /meat/. That said, if we're assuming a prolonged war where /morig/ might be a target (as per >>19612479), maybe /meat/ raiders will join in the fun while the local military is distracted. Having someone around to load off some of the captives while /meat/ focus on shipping the more ritually valuable ones in exchange of money sounds like a pretty nice idea.
While we're on that, do /nasfaqg/ have a booming slave market? I think we can have a decent trade relationship...

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

Is penguin on the menu?

[Anonymous No.]

/meat/ having a thread culture praising corpo graduations scares me
Theyre behaving like an actual "/vt/ will be saved once Cover and Anycolor is dead" deicidal cult

[Anonymous No.]

>>19618699
They kill indies too you just don't hear about it, I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>19618903
Nah we dont
Our chuubas are indies and theyre not as destructive to the subculture compared to corpos
It's true indies graduate more common but it's survival of the fittest really. If a 2view can make it big that means they deserved it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19618903
Nah, we eat all of them, indies and corpos alike. It's just that most 2views won't ever get a thread here so you never hear about them.

[Anonymous No.]

Tfw we have a world where a bunch of spacemen with breaddogs, sex crazed clockwork enhanced people, a mount olympus of lolis, and a deicidal cannibals exist together

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619574
It's a wonderful world we live in

[Anonymous No.]

>playing CK3
>found this
Oh look. It's /asp/

[Anonymous No.]

/yeah/ is raiding /∞/ polls. We will not stand for this foreign interference in our voting process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620054
you do not speak for infinity

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620091
When our representative stops jobbing to SEA internet, we will see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620054
The polls are run by a shitposter trying to take advantage of the current drama. He thinks everyone against him is a shill from Niji and admits here that he will keep forcing polls until he gets what he wants.
>>19619541

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620441
That doesn't excuse having the poll raided. If the poll organically was in favor of keepikg trade open, it'd have been fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19596859
They may were making "LORE" for /become/ last thread and /become/ has been dead for months before even the first fucking thread for this was made.

[Anonymous No.]

As far as i am aware, there's only one anon on /yeah/ that's active on /vtwbg/, and that anon is me. I have not posted such a poal in our thread, nor do I wish to interfere with the voting process of /∞/. /yeah/ is willing to settle on any deal the Kronnies present to us, and we wish to settle this diplomatically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620516
The poll itself is raid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620588
The damage is done
>>19619026
>>19619602

>>19620608
What did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620785
The fact you aren't involved in the project and you're only doing this to shit things up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621128
I'm one of the infinity contributors, just not the representative

[Anonymous No.]

Hello. /∞/ representative here. One of my major detractors has said I am not strong enough to represent our thread to /vtwbg/, and that I fold to foreign interference too easily, that I shouldn't even make polls when other generals interfere in our worldbuilding. As such, I will be taking these criticisms to heart.

As such, /∞/ will be cutting ties with /haha/ for the crime of raiding our democratic process. This is not an act of war, just withdrawal. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621993
I of course meant /yeah/. /haha/ has done no wrong to us yet. Thank you again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19622063
The Kingdom of /yeah/ understands the motivations behind such decision. As such, we respect such cutting of ties with our nation. We wish you peace and prosperity.

-/yeah/ representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19622541
Same to you. Unfortunate it happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19604483
As a Sakuran mentioned earlier, there were some Fandead refugees in the MiComet zone that were performing local raids.
It could be the case that once a chuuba graduates, depending on the way they do, the land they represent is consumed by a large scale natural disaster that leaves the land a wasteland and its people dead or displaced. The other option may be a coup d'etat that brings down the current political and/or religious leaders and replaces them and the religion of the land with something else.
I'd say deaths of citizens are viewers who permanently leave the hobby after the graduation of their oshi, refugees are fans that are waiting the shit storm out until their thread calms down enough to return to it (if it doesn't collapse completely), immigrants are fans that changed oshi, while an amount probably stays in their land and tries to survive. In the case that the graduated chuuba reincarnates, it is possible the remaining fans, as well as refugees and immigrants from previously, gather again and establish a different nation with a different (yet the same) deity.
I'd say the Rushia thread went through a storm of cataclysmic scale after her fall from grace, killing many, displacing others, while the remaining faithful are waiting to receive news of her reincarnation. Its not like the land is empty and ripe for the taking, the people will still put up a fight, but they are weakened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19622843
I like more the lore that /Rushia/ is now a wasteland with deadly storms and living dead. There's also the fact that Rushia didn't graduate, she was terminated. Someone struck her down from the skies.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>19588637
Does that means that there's an "Olympics" in this world too? This might spawn a new league like Divegrass if so, although I'm not sure now modable any of the games are, or if there would be enough interest in the first place to make it happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>19622541
>>19621993
As Representative of /ybc/ and in order to protect fisheries markets that were established with /yeah/ in the past, /ybc/ cuts any and all future relations with /infinity/.
For all intents and purposess, you don't exist to us

[Anonymous No.]

Bumpy

[Anonymous No.]

Cold. It's Cold.
Here in the furthest North of the material world, far beyond the mountains of the Rrat Monks. Far beyond the ivory towers of the Spacemen.
The sun shone all day for half a year, and hid in the other. The pitch black darkness accompanied only by the winds. And the lights in the sky.
He scratched the fur on his back, longing for the sun to return. The fishes are all eaten. Only lard left. He needs to find food soon.
With a thud, he slowly lift the stone to his tunnel.
The air is still. The blizzard died. For now.
He pushes the stone aside, and crawl out of his domain. Net in tow.
Grabbing the rock, he pulled it back over the entry. Covering it under snow for concealment.
The hulking figure stretched his fuzzy arms and scratch the dust off his fur.
With only the wavy lights in the sky and the blinking stars to guide his way, he set off to the nearest coast.
Merely a stone throw from his home, the snow troll looks up in the sky.
A flash, colours not of this world. No. Not now. Not yet!
But his pleas were unanswered. The gods were deaf to his prayers. They always were.
Frightened, he fell onto the snow, shivering and whimpering.
The visions have begun.
Flashes of memories. Sights he had never seen before.
Of a green haired goddess, swearing vengeance on her Pantheon.
Of a minor Pantheon attempting to disgrace one of theirs.
Of a free rebellious, once draconic, goddess, vowing to save her friends.
Of a the feelings of a primordial goddess, the Great Mother of all, now silent.
And of a goddess of a major Pantheon, mistakenly revealing the secrets of her brothers and sisters.
The troll did not spoke their languages. The troll had never prayed to them. The troll only knows his small world in this frozen darkness.
But he knew everything. What they meant. What they are. What they will do to the worshippers of this world.
Their true names. Their true powers. Their true nature.
Knowledge that he is cursed unable to share to anyone.
Slowly, he lifts himself up. He needs to get food quickly, before the next blizzard rolls in.
He stares back at the lights in the sky.
He only wanted to live in ignorance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19629472
>>19570746
Forgot anchor

[Anonymous No.]

>>19629472
>the schizo trolls in the arctic wastes are the ones who knows the true nature of the world
>they know that the gods are just anime girl avatars
>but nobody understands them and we all call them schizos
Naruhodo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19629989
>looks at /x/
Just like real life

[Anonymous No.]

>>19626303
>>19622541
>>19622063
>>19621993
>>19621199
>>19621128
>>19620785
>>19620608
>>19620516
>>19620441
>>19620091
>>19620054
Why is /infinity/ creating drama for the sake of it?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that every single dispute after the zone autism died down, was caused by Kronies and their schizo anties.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah whatever, I think it's time to push forth this prompt from the archive

Food
Calling out all envoys to expand upon your citizens' diet and eating etiquette. What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?

Since /who/ is a potato and meat producing nation, we are willing to export to those that wish for it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19631211
So what should we do?

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

War already? /nasa/'s going need to find the weapons vault and soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19629472
Cool (heh) concept
Any other writefag wanna try expanding the schizo troll idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19631575
declare war on them

[Anonymous No.]

/rose/ is niji right? I feel sorry for them if they are because they just started to get into worldbuilding and now war is declared. Anyway /nasa/ is going to have to fortify their defenses. Especially if they get invaded by sea. The weapons vault should have some basic artillery to fend off invaders. If not then we'll have to surrender territory to other nations for bases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635249
/rose/ is safe since theyre not part of the yab
But they might get shunned for affiliation

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635249
Yeah we're niji. Rosemi wasn't in the yab, but she's still part of niji. It's been rough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635471
Stay strong, bro, feel free to drop by if you want a warm meal!

t. /meat/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635249
/nasa/ is probably in the safest position in case of a war, but then again, this is mainly just a yab, not a war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635471
Is alright
Wosemi-sama is the most genuine entertainer of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635404
>>19635471
Also I think I have an idea for a subterranean garden. You have sun catchers on the surface that absorb sunlight into sunstones. The sunstones give sunlight underground which allows flora to grow. Also because the flora and algae are growing underground there's pleanty of oxygen as well. Though you do have to set up heat vents as to not melt too much permafrost, which could cause the tunnels to collapse.

I thought about it last thread but thread died before response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19635960
Good idea! I'll definitely keep that in mind! I like that a lot, I could even combine that with my dome idea for underground tunnels! I feel like we're sort of becoming a kind of pseudo-apocalyptic Russia now.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>19636296
Metro but Wosemi's light blesses you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19636296
At least with caverns you don't have to blow massive panels of glass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19629472
Thanks for the inspiration!
Schizo troll panicking in the snow as he receives revelations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19638361
Nice work

[Anonymous No.]

>>19638361
What the hell! I only wrote that story for fun! I didnt expect anyone to love it that much. Let alone draw art of it!
Im very much flattered. Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19638566
Well it was a good idea. So I had to illustrate it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19638361
Woah! That's so cool! You've got some really nice art!

[Anonymous No.]

>we now have drawfriends
I love you guys so much

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to be out of town for the rest of the day. Looks like I'll have to draw /nasa/'s map later.

[Anonymous No.]

I notice that /nasa/'s territory has a river in the old map. Could we use the river for something or is it too frozen to be useful? A water wheel will be useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19641411
Frozen during winter, thaws during summer
likely floods during springs when all the snow melts

[Anonymous No.]

>>19641527
I suppose its more reliable than solar. At least it still works on a cloudy day.

[Anonymous No.]

>thinking an invasion of /morig/ would ever go smoothly
Bitch, we have the most battle-hardened military this side of the globe
Our entire culture is literally centered around our own personal Ragnarok
We will fight you on the beaches, we will fight you in the markets, we will fight you in the forest
Do you even know how to kill a skeleton?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19643835
If I took your head off would you fall apart like a dry bones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19645204
It would be extremely painful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19645900
Well from one pink woman fan to another, I will not harm you.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello, /vtwbg/

I have been selected to speak on behalf of /∞/ in lieu of archivebud who is currently away.
I would like to first start out by apologizing for the behavior of /∞/ that has transpired within the past 24 hours. Various third party schizos attempted to influence policy in /∞/ and they dragged in innocent countries, like /yeah/, into their warring. We are currently working on sorting out these problems in private with the intention of making sure they do not happen in the future.

As a result, we are taking a temporary hiatus from these threads and if anyone makes future posts claiming they are from /∞/ before our internal matters are resolved, they should be considered a false flag and ignored.

I would also like to personally apologize to /yeah/ for having been dragged into this sitution that was of no fault of their own. And also say that their patience through this has been exemplary and will not be forgotten.
I again apologize for /∞/'s behavior and after reforms are properly in place, we hope to be much better participants in this game.
Thank you for your time.

Signed,
A Map Maker Kronie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19648091
Why are you all so chunnie all the time
Nobody cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>19648091
After all the shit stirring you guys did, all the goodwill of the thread in cwtering to your needs and "special snowflakes" demands in terroitory and lore... now you decide to go?
Please make your hiatus permanent, thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19648091
Hope to see you all back soon!
Good luck with sorting things out!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19648091
Poor Kronies... I hope you guys get stuff fixed soon, I'm sorry you guys are having a rough time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19649065
Did you not see the word 'temporary'?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19649520
He did, that's why he suggested to upgrade it from "temporary" to "permanent".

[Anonymous No.]

>19649065
>complains about shit stirring
>stirs shit
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

So I've decided to design /rose/ in a more Metro way, based off of some ideas other anons had. I'll go into more detail later, but for now I'm going to play through each Metro game so I have a better understanding of the material I'm working off of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570746
/who/ used multiple scripts and alphabets before it settled into it's modern form, one of these is a recovered form commonly refered to as "Owl-A", in this text comes written details about the Republic's religious belief, it looks like it was equally as disconnected and unorganized as it is nowadays. Due to how quickly systems changed in the early moments of the Republic, it was thought lost until an intrepid reporter managed to rediscover it as he was writing for the national newspaper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19651111
Checked. Have fun with the games, they're both great, though I'd advise looking up a guide on how to get the good endings, at least for the second game. Also, when you find that prostitute offering you a good time, don't follow her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19652896
Oh no, I didn't know there were different endings. And a prostitute?? Oh geez...

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for world peace

[Anonymous No.]

pmub

[Anonymous No.]

>>19626303
Are you abetting /yeah/ raiding international polls and corrupting the democratic process of sovereign nations?
>>19630536
>>19631211
/yeah/ raided our polls, this is just a reaction to it.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't dieeee

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

Have we considered lost worlds and terras outside of the vtuber world? Such as /jp/ or other boards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19660647
I think /jp/ is, in current lore, our old world from which we were banished, but it's so so so far back it's basically mythical and not largely considered a literal fact. Basically antediluvian

[Anonymous No.]

>>19657337
I, as a representant of /ybc/, already said why we stand with /yeah/.
What you are doing is trampling over the official apologize your people have put forth, further proving your nation is best to remain ignored until your diplomatic behaviour is unified, dignified and coherent.

Please don't adress /ybc/ any further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19661115
>>19648091
>As a result, we are taking a temporary hiatus from these threads and if anyone makes future posts claiming they are from /∞/ before our internal matters are resolved, they should be considered a false flag and ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19661400
Sorry, I kinda forgor that part. Just gonna ignore it then

[Anonymous No.]

>>19661400
>>19648091
That apology was written by someone who didn't even use infinity until less than a month ago and only started watching Kronii even less time than that. He doesn't represent us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19648091
>>19657337
>>19662397
Stuff like this is why /infinity/, more than anyone else, really need to get a representative with tripcode

[Anonymous No.]

>>19663499
I'll look into it. Should other representatives do the same?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19665103
I think the previous votes (>>19274601) are mostly in favour of the idea of thread representative, and tripcode is probably necessary if we want to confirm the posters are actually the representatives. /infinity/ just needs it the most due to the number of schizos both from and against them.

[Anonymous No.]

So outside of that one story, is there anything else people have written on behalf of /voms/? Cause if not I might write something next thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19666474
According to the lore archive, nothing since. Give it a shot, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19666558
Alright. I say next thread since I'm busy with other shit right now. Plus it'll give anyone else that wants to take a shot a chance. I'll check back in like a day or two and see what I can come up with.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got back from family obligations. Mostly traveling between towns to watch my niece's baptism. So I have a topic: What religious rituals does your nation have to worship their dieties?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19668073
Ooh, that's a good prompt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19663499
Or, we can just ignore the person who's trying to blame /yeah/ and trying to start shit.
>19657337
>19662397

[Anonymous No.]

>>19648091
/yeah/ will patiently wait for a resolution between our two nations. We will avoid interacting with any Kronnies until /inf/ has come to a unified conclusion.

-/yeah/ representative

[Anonymous No.]

Republic Owl/ Respublika Filin / Republique Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Regarding food stuffs

The Republic's main consumption is potatoes and meat. The potatoes were found in the hills the land and mass farmed to assist the logistical difficulties that the Republic faced in its early wars, the potato managed to keep starvation away thanks to ease of planting in any terrain, large yield resuls, and its high nutritional value.
Meat on the other hand remained a harder to produce product, as the wars didn't allow for much cattle to be farmed or imported. After the wars thought, both potato and meat production were focused on and increased in order to properly feed the population, the preferred meat is cattle and goats, these two animals can easily survive in the hilly terrain of the lands, althought goats are a lot more free-range than the cattle is. The export of meat to other states aside from those directly neighbouring the Republic only recently took off due to the difficulties in mantaining it cool in long trips be it across sea travel or through land.
Other crops aside from potatoes does exist to lesser degree, mainly wheat which is used for bread baking, small amounts of sugar beet for local sugar production, gathering berries is often done as a communal activity by many of the Republic's rural areas. Experiments with cash crops generally failed due to climate and terrain corncerns.
The Republic does not hold the need to import food, it is the exporting nation for its neighbours, although rarer foods and crops are often brought by the richer citizens that wish to try more exotic food and by researchers that are looking to study and improve the agricultural production of the nation. The diet for the average citizen of the Republic is healthy and varied enough to avoid any malnutrition problems.
Typical etiquette for eating is considered informal and flexible, as long as you eat the right stuff and don't make a mess no one will tell you anything, often workers will have mid-work lunches so that they can re-energize in the middle of the day. This also traduces itself to the political upper class, as most will simply sit down along with friends or family and eat what they've prepared without paying much attention to proper etiquette. It is to be mentioned however that most people will not speak at all during their meals.

Anchoring
>>19570746

[Anonymous No.]

>>19669624
For transporting meat in the old days you shipped the live cattle. In western US cattle drives were popular because the cattle grazed on the grass while traveling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19669606
/yeah/ is the cinnamon roll of /vtwbg/, too good, too pure for us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19670062
Oh i know that, it's just that our neighbours are living in mountains, a very large forest, and that leaves only the southern neighbours to transport it to. So we'd still have to take along large amounts of feed across the obstacles, this would be very expensive for international exports, althought it would still happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19670382
On the bright side with enough materials /nasa/ can make freezers. The problem comes with developing transportation of those freezers. Regardless /nasa/ wants live cattle for milk instead of meat. If we can get eggs and rock salt then /nasa/ can make ice cream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19669337
That's precisely why a single and verifiable representative is needed for /inf/ in particular, because they have multiple and/or persistent people trying to start shit in different ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671231
Even if someone posted with a tripcode, given their current sitution, how would we know they are the actual representative?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671347
Presumably having a thread representative with tripcode means they'll agree on which tripcode marks said representative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19669606
The fact your regulars were willing to raid our poll when given the opportunity and no one over there had the goodwill to warn us calls to question if any of you have your trade partner's best interest in mind.

That being said, the one who posted our poll to your thread is the same "Kronie" that has been shitposting in our thread for months as well as the same one who shat /vtwbg/ up, claimed the tripfag was intentionally fucking us over, and then picked fights with other people and claimed they just wanted to invade us.

Please ignore him moving forward. Sorry about what happened. I will wait for this to cool down before asking infinity what to do in regards to /yeah/ moving forward. And hopefully no non-Kronies will participate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671118
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#History
>before the invention of the modern electric refrigerator, icehouses and iceboxes were used to provide cool storage for most of the year. Placed near freshwater lakes or packed with snow and ice during the winter, they were once very common. Natural means are still used to cool foods today. On mountainsides, runoff from melting snow is a convenient way to cool drinks, and during the winter one can keep milk fresh much longer just by keeping it outdoors. The word "refrigeratory" was used at least as early as the 17th century.

>The history of artificial refrigeration began when Scottish professor William Cullen designed a small refrigerating machine in 1755. Cullen used a pump to create a partial vacuum over a container of diethyl ether, which then boiled, absorbing heat from the surrounding air. The experiment even created a small amount of ice, but had no practical application at that time.

Well, looks like it is something that could be accomplished if /nasa/ decides to work with /who/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671549
But that's what concerns me, how will we know? Their schizo could start posting with a tripcode for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671973
>>19671549
I'll get a tripcode and temporarily include it in the top of our lore post, since only I know the password to that rentry

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671745
Aren't you being unfair to /yeah/? Only their rep interacts with /vtwbg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19671840
Perhaps with a portable power source of vitubium/chuubanite coal freezers can be viable. The problem comes from the weight of the freezers themselves which you will need a steam engine train or boat to transport.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19672617
Their regulars had no qualms raiding a poll that was shared to them, that was made just for Kronies. That being said, the whole thing was because of that schizo, so I'm willing to forget it ever happened if the rest of thread allows it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19672706
Alternatively (since I don't know if heat pump magic is too much), maybe some kind of insulating material can be made by infusing it with chuubanite? /who/ should be able to get some cheap ice, which should be enough to keep things frozen long enough for transportation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19672706
>>19672931
Well, both of our nations are in very cold places with powerful winters, smaller iceboxes would work without need for large refrigerators or magic. Transportation could be done by normal means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19672780
So the schizo targeted /yeah/? For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673064
No, the schizo is an infinity regular that shills Nijis there and says "why can't Kronii do this" in a way that makes Kronii seem inferior. Then he'll call people tribalist for telling him to fuck off. That same schizo is evidently the one who's made a bad name for our thread by picking fights with everyone and the old tripfag who used to moderate the map. He made /yeah/ raid our poll because he's a nijisanji fan more than a Kronie and wanted our island to remain trading with them no matter what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19672931
/nasa/ lives in the tundra. Ice is no problem here. Pumps are an easy technology to operate with a simple engine. Sadly /nasa/'s specialty is creating fuel for spacecraft. They know very little about infusing Chuubanite into materials. That said /nasa/ knows insulation very well from living in deep space. We do have to keep in mind of the prime directive though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673042
We're also talking about refridgeration outside of cold climates like the open sea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673279
Heat pump is more than just a single pump, although I don't know enough on whether it's limited by material and technology, or that it can be done with technolgy of the period once they have the know-how on how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673279
/who/ would be very happy to, uh, "assist" /nasa/ in recovering their technology.
>>19673351
sure, but that's another problem entirely, right now i'm focusing on connecting with /nasa/ since they have asked for ways in which we could work around our logistical limitations. Ice is a non-issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673213
That doesn't make sense, are you sure he's not just false flagging as a Nijisanji fan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673727
>false flagging
probably, at /who/ we've ocassionally had one of those trying to stir shit around, they don't get any (you)'s thought, so they almost never do it. Global does get a very consistent falseflagger trying to provoke shit. I do know it occasionally happens to other splits too. this is the so called "nijishill" phenomena.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673726
Hi /who/. I, /nasa/, wrote both of those posts. /nasa/ is also familiar with liquifying gasses as one component of rocket fuel is liquid oxygen. Though liquifying gases wasn't common until mid 1800s. Which means that tech is out of reach for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19674221
Well, progress will be done regardless, and quite frankly, i'd rather avoid magic or chuubanite. fortunately, our combined situation means that i can avoid it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19674725
/nasa/ will find a way to refine chuubanite into rocket fuel and superconductors. Its not the most fantastic use of the element. However it is practical. Chuubanite fertilizer and circuitry are being researched but that research is not a priority.

[Anonymous No.]

Insomnia bump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19673727
>>19674031
I once asked him to recommend me Selen clips to watch and he made a long list with summaries too. I think he's genuinely a fan of some Nijis.

[Anonymous No.]

Christ on a bike. Remember the rule on not starting interthread drama? Are we that petty that we have to sabotoge polls in other threads now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619123
corpos are worse, which is why we target them more. indies are more likely to become royna chuubas, which is why we tolerate them more. we eat our own chuubas when their power inevitably dies down, so we'll eat them all at some point. corpos are a harder target, too, so working harder to take them down is necessary to return them to the cycle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19679564
Funnily enough the guy who did that, is apparently the same guy who has been shitting up this thread too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19679842
Regardless of who's doing it. If it continues then jannies will red flag these threads for deletion if we can't follow our own rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19679842
Deleted the last post because it was too warnie and I'm no jannie. But we need to try and stop the interthread drama if we can. You can have war campaigns in world. But sabotaging polls is going too far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19680507
To clarify. I am not blaming /yeah/ for the raid. There are bad actors that need to be identified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19680666
Considering /yeah/'s reaction to the poll being posted (ranging from indifferent to "why are you posting it"), I'd even be willing to go as far as to say that it was an /infinity/ schizo false-flagging to have ammunition for more isolation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19680958
I'm no stranger to false flags. Anti-sana posters keep flooding the board. But rather than accusing entire threads we need to step back and observe the individuals malicious posting. I'm OP of this thread. If the thread gets pruned then I get banned. So I'm wary of interthread drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19680958
/yeah/s reaction to it was to vote in it though, no one replied in any negative way until infinity even noticed it. The schizo who made them raid it is barely even a Kronie

[Anonymous No.]

>>19681398
And how do you know /yeah/ voted in it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19681398
t. Kronie

[Anonymous No.]

>>19681554
We don't normally have that many people voting in polls at the hour it was initially posted. The night prior we had multiple polls bout our flag and none had that much engagement.
>>19681700
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>19681554
>>19681930
That aside, no one was saying "why are you posting it" or similar in response to the poll. The only responses were about having one rep for /vtwbg/, and another saying none of the chuubas worshipped by /yeah/ were even involved in the shitstorm

[Anonymous No.]

Since everything has been talked about, I think it's funny that of all the threads, they chose /yeah/
That split has at most 20 posters and none of them care about drama or other livers, it was a fun read though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19682284
It was the only Niji general that had any ties to infinity, so when the proposal to cut ties with Nijis came up the resident Nijishill and worldbuilding schizo ran to them and told them to vote in the polls

[Anonymous No.]

>get special treatment
>isolationist but lots of trade deals
>sanctions over perceived slights
>get blamed for every shitstorm
Kronies are the Jews of this world

[Anonymous No.]

I thought this whole thing was roleplay

[Anonymous No.]

>>19682845
No it's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>19682797
Except that here, they are actually behind every shitstorm. Can't wait until they are thrown out of most generals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683166
Every shitstorm involving infinity has been the work of exactly one guy. Being unnecessarily rude and hostile, scaring off Neufag, refusing to back down on military while claiming other generals wanted to invade them, starting timeloops, and organizing raids on polls (regardless of success). All one guy. He's not even the guy who wrote their lore or even the one that the general voted to represent them.

Please don't pin this on the whole thread.

[Anonymous No.]

anon, you're replying to the schizo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683338
Just putting it out there so other anons here see it and know what's happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683290
I remember him having a lot more support than "just one guy" during the Nuefag drama, both here and in /infinity/. If you want to go with the narration that he whipped other Kronies into a frenzy, feel free to do so, but the truth is that it was a collective effort. The Kronies who tried to de-escalate got ignored.
>>19683338
Not him. I'm just sick and tired of dealing with /infinity/ in this thread. Pick a thread rep or something for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing interthread drama reflecting on the world is a nice touch by /yeah/ and /ybc/
Not that I advocate for drama, but seeing the world being affected in real time based on events in /vt/ adds nice lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>19677863
Any chance it was someone else? It seems, conflicting to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

Can this be a documented event in the lore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683415
You have a point, it was more than one person doing it. However he was the one to start it, each and every time. He types the same way all the time. And yes, we have a thread rep, it's me. He's just constantly undermining me.

You're probably the Hoshiyomi who left last week because of him. I'm sorry he's still up to his same shit .
>>19683550
The guy who calls everyone who calls him out a tribalfag also called me "weak" yesterday in the same post, something the schizo has always done. That and they're active at the same time. I actual pray to god it's just one guy because I don't want to believe there's two of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683742
Get a tripcode, we'll put it in the archive and hope that can solve the issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683802
Will have to figure out how to do that on mobile, but thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683815
Should work if you put #<password> in the name field. You might want to add your tripcode in the /inf/ archive too, since I remember you saying you have the edit code?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683290
>>19683415
I just noticed the /infinity/ anon is trying to have it both ways. Where it's not /infinity/'s fault when they all followed the actions of one guy in attacking Nuetralfag. But earlier in this thread, he was blaming all of /yeah/ and saying they should all take responsibility for what happened with the /infinity/ poll.
>>19671745
>>19672780
>>19673213

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683898
Please work

[None !pyJSoc6q1M No.]

>>19684027
Weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684027
It didn't work
>>19683969
I wasn't blaming all of /yeah/ though. You can see in those same posts that I said the schizo is to blame for instigating. This is the same as when he instigated Kronies to shit up /vtwbg/ because of the island crap. Both threads fucked up in those cases but they're not to blame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683742
The schizo powerlevel required to think all this shitposting is caused by a single guy is at least equal to the schizo powerlevel such a person would have to have to actually do so. In other words, while what you are saying may be true, said schizo hangs around your thread because he's found his peers.

[None !pyJSoc6q1M No.]

>>19684089
It works for me. See https://www.4channel.org/faq#trip for more details.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684089
To elaborate: /yeah/ wouldn't have raided us if he didn't tell them to "because tribalfags are spamming polls". Likewise, infinity wouldn't have raided /vtwbg/ if he did tell them to because "the tripfag is intentionally undermining us".
>>19684118
I'll give you that. But our schizos only shit up our own thread except for him, except when they riotes against Neufag because of him

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684089
>>19684154
>Their regulars had no qualms raiding a poll
Your backpedaling now with your latest statement. Does /yeah/ bare any responsibility for what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19672706
Consider getting access to some ice-themed vtuber's chuubanite. I would assume such a material would have some alchemical / rune reaction that would suck out heat from the environment

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684132
Please work...

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684186
No. In the same post I said that, I explained it's all the schizos fault.

[None !pyJSoc6q1M No.]

>>19684229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xJcE9tnY6E

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684229
EYYYY

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684274
Thank you for the help, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684267
Then if all of this is the fault of one schizo, should /yeah/ be punished for it?

[Anonymous No.]

So, should all reps have trips, or is it just highly recommend?

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684317
No. Again in the same posts I said I was willing to forget any of it happened as long as the thread lets me (since I don't want to go around making decisions for them anymore)

[None !pyJSoc6q1M No.]

>>19684336
It's useful in avoiding impersonation, but I won't say it needs to be mandatory. /inf/ is kind of a special case given their schizo situation, where impersonation is bound to happen without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684352
Was the original decision to cut ties with /yeah/ that you wrote here >>19621993, based on polls, or in retaliation to you thinking /yeah/ was raiding you?
I'm just trying to understand how the decision process for /infinity/ works.

[Anonymous No.]

My fucking God... This fucking shit again, this is the reason why I left in the first place

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684437
It was a rash decision I made to end the shitstorm about it here and on infinity. I skimmed infinity, which had put everything to polls as we always do, but I saw the guy who normally says I'm weak in the face of "international interference" organizing just that, so I made an immediate response then went to sleep. Waking up to see more of the story, I regret that decision and want to undo it.

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684493
I'm just answering questions, no more timeloops. Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684524
>I regret that decision and want to undo it.
Given your decision was based almost entirely on you getting baited and not a poll, why don't you just revert things to what they originally were and then conduct a poll asking if things should be changed? It feels like both /infinity/ and /yeah/ are on the hook for what you're done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684154
>But our schizos only shit up our own thread except for him, except when they riotes against Neufag because of him
And the other times after that.
Anon, what I'm saying is that the only reason the shitposter is succeeding in shitposting is because other kronies share at least some of his opinions. You can claim it's just one guy but to me, and others in this general, it is evident that more often that not it has been more than one. Therefore, I cannot accept you (plural) pushing all the responsibility to one person, even if that's the story you're pushing. I'm afraid to say that he/they have, at the very least, succeeded in tarnishing your credibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684775
I agree with this, the fact that the schizo was able to influence him into taking rash action and his first response isn't to immediately undo what he did is troubling.

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684703
>getting baited
He genuinely did try to have a poll raided, not sure on the success on that but given the high engagement compared to our other polls... I digress. Like I said in >>19671745 I do plan to ask infinity what to do about this whole thing after it's cooled down. That means yes, a poll. Thank you for understanding.
>>19684775
Hopefully now that I have a tripcode as the representative, it won't happen again.

[archivebud !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684820
I do plan on undoing it, but I'm waiting for the usual time the Kronies discuss worldbuilding (in a few hours) to tell them and ask them what to do now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684842
As long as you undo it.

[/∞/ representative !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684911
Definitely, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

I do want to apologize for now informing anyone that the poll was posted in our thread, it was an oversight on my part. My mistake, and the next time it happens i will inform you

-/yeah/ representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19684955
*Not informing
Fucking hell

[/∞/ representative !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19684955
Thank you. Sorry as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19683742
>I don't want to believe there's two of them.
Believe it Groomerbud. You got so easily trolled into thinking Nijishill was me and used your personal bias to act as the justification to attack an innocent Nijisanji country. I did it to prove you're unqualified to be our leader, because unlike you, I put the interests of /∞/ first. Your bias, like Nuetralfags, is extremely clear too because in your original letter, you were attacking /haha/. I didn't even need to use a Selen avatar, like the Nijishill does, and you still assumed it was me. And since you're trying to track me through words, I bet if I used terms like 'chunnie' or 'unilateral', you'd think I was those people too unless I told you the truth.

Let what happened here be a reminder to /vtwbg/ that Groomerbud is not only easily manipulated. But he's just as biased as Nuetralfag, and like Nuetralfag, unfit to be a leader.

And a fun fact, he's called Groomerbud because he tried to groom a high school girl Kronie on twitter. Remember that's the type of company you're keeping here /vtwbg/.

[Anonymous No.]

Lord, they weren't joking when they were talking about their constant civil wars

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19685847
She didn't even have DMs you fuck, I just comment on her art. The rest of your post is inane shit that anyone with eyes and knows how you behaved here so far can dismiss.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19685946
Told you it'd keep us pre-occupied, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19685847
Do you have proof he tried to groom her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19686309
My take on it is your schizo is admitting to staging a false flag with the intention of making you look bad. But doesn't realize that it makes him look even more schizo.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19686589
That's very reassuring. I really don't know what his problem with me is, bit I think he's mad I won the vote to be the representative.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm picturing a crazed Kronie in the UN offices of /vtwbg/, arms spilling with poorly made paper masks like the TF2 spy for his falseflagging, admitting to having staged a falseflag on foreign soil just to make the representative look bad, and the rest of the UN bored out of their mind while the Kronie representative holds his head in his hands, elbows on the table, exhausted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19686622
pretty sure schizos are schizos for whatever half-assed excuse they can think of. responding to idiots who can't even walk themselves through their thought-processes is a waste of your time.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19686748
Good point. Not sure why he hates me specifically but I should stop paying attention to him now that I have a trip, huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>19686622
That's probably the case given the schizo claimed he puts your split's interests first.

My big concern over this is the fact he was successful at false flagging as a Niji poster and caused a shitload of drama.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19686807
Everyone knows how he behaved here, it'd have been horrible if he was our representative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19686928
We do, but I'm still concerned with the fact he was able to successfully false flag you.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19687042
I'll be more careful.

[Anonymous No.]

Updated the lore prompt list with the recent religious prompt, while adding to it.
>What religious rituals does your nation have to worship their dieties? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687067
I'd apologize to the Nijiposter too since he was going to get fucked over hard if the schizo's ego didn't do himself in.

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

>>19687241
Eh, he still shits up the thread big time when he posts. We do have a nice rosebud anon who posts occasionally though, we're nice to him

[Anonymous No.]

>>19686589
It did make Groomerbud look bad, how can you trust someone so easily manipulated to shit things up?

>>19686541
Posts of Groomerbud filrting, lamenting that he got cucked and the girl he was trying to groom saying she's in high school.
https://a.uguu.se/bYGvcEve.png
https://a.uguu.se/XXtEoCFt.jpg
https://a.uguu.se/MmDcYZiC.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is happening?
I left for a day and theres a schizo war

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687466
it seems to be resolving though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687407
That first one looks like he's just complimenting her art, the second one is clearly a joke because of the parentheses, and the third is only relevant if you have proof of him acting inappropriate.

Why are you so upset about this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687532
>A joke
Why do they always fall back on that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687407
Not only are these irrelevant and a nothing burger, you expect us to call out grooming and/or pedophilia when uoh and horny are part of the world? Please refrain from making look yourself even more of a fool than your representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687532
>>19687583
I fail to see how this is in any way relevant to the topic of the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687583
>Cucked again!
>followed by explanation that he's actually happy whoever he's talking about got recognized or something
Anon are you that mad he's your representative that you're throwing around accusations of pedophilia and grooming of minors

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687677
>making look yourself

[None !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Please don't respond to him, this is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19687285
Still, even if someone is a faggot, being used as part of a false flag sucks. Maybe try and use this as an opportunity to be nice and he'll shit up the tread less?

[Anonymous No.]

New thread: >>19687899