/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why are western vtubbers so hostile to Loli? Even lewd ones seem to gawk at Gura or Luna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
Christianity-influenced cultures have a rightful hatred of pedophilia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
in most cases when someone is outspokenly against something they secretly enjoy it. look at the amount of people who speak against pedophilia and eventually get caught as pedos themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567443
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
copying nyanners

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
Moral crusaders mentality

[Anonymous No.]

When is someone going to draw loli cimrai taking a fat cock?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
This. You see it with "male feminists", anti-gay pastors and senators--anyone making a part of their identity anti-something, is most likely into the thing they are so anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
They don't really think about it, they just do what they're told

[Anonymous No.]

Not all of them can be as based as Fulgur.

[Anonymous No.]

Fu-chan's got no problem with it. You're simply not watching the right VTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>check >her early tweets when holoen debuted
>35 of them trying to ride on Guras dick
Well we found the issue. Faggot is mad Gura ignored him on twitter lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
cuz they know they cant compete

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567443
said the priest to the altar boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
It’s a psychological phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
>Dark mistress
>Can't handle childlike drawings
So this is the power of evil beings in 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
Shit like this is why EOPs only care about Holo/Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
Why is this always the case?
https://twitter.com/__sickpuppy__/status/1492997915429662722
https://twitter.com/__sickpuppy__/status/1498821537993879553

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
these stuck-up bitches like to discriminate against normal things (in this case: petite women)
more news at 11

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
>Why are western vtubbers so hostile to Loli?
they're not. the one you've posted is a mentally ill homosexual who's also a closeted pedophile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568356
Wolf hiding in sheeps clothes, hiding in plain sight
Thinking nobody would suspect them of being pedophiles if they are anti-pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568332
So this is true evil...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568399
>I AM LITERALLY SHAKING
topkek

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
Anyone who has an ‘opinion’ on loli is not a normie by default, they see it and they think about it quite a bit. The only difference between the moral crusaders and the unabashed loli lovers is shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568332
Oh how far has the evil fallen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NgUhEs1R4

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568240
not that i care but is saying "lolis are okay" the only thing one needs to say in order to get into /vt/'s good graces?

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>>19568399
>neo nazis
Lmao actually mentally ill

[Anonymous No.]

That fucker is a grown ass mother with children and behaves like the average vtweeter

Westerners are cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568005
Unironically this.

[Anonymous No.]

Luna isn't a loli though. Anyway it's because they're all aged old whores.

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>>19567443
Pedophilia is not condemmed even once in the bible.

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>>19568547
Nah, they actually would a child. Also
>moral crusaders
You mean "internet moral crusaders". I've met a few people that are actually moral crusaders but don't go flaunting it like retards. I guess "hide your powerlevel" is a thing everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568399
kek

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>>19568576
>he doesn't know
Do your reps. He is shitting on china and exposed Vox' PL

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
>you hate snakes? You must want to fuck them!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
This is a huge minority of cases. The first world will always despise pedophiles. Lolicons simply took up crying "pedo pedo you're projecting" (doing that is projecting BTW) as a group defense and use the few retarded pedophiles that use loli as a smokescreen as their proof.
As for why twitch streamers dislike loli, they're normies and normies see loli as simply 2D child porn.
If lolicons actually constructed an argument rather than resorting to projection and "the author said she's 18" there would be less of an issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568486
Is this the best you can do?! Be more evil!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
This also applies to homosexuality in case people want to say it's a cope. Reminds me of those republican politicians who was anti-gay as fuck until they're caught in bed with another dude.

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>>19568576
Kinda, yes. I'm not looking for someone to lavish praise on me, I'm just looking for someone who won't look down their nose at me. A "you do you, bro" is all it takes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568583
There are 22 Adolf Hitlers outside my window! When I close my eyes I see Adolf dancing with other Adolfs!
In my dreams there is Adolf Hitler with those silly little German shorts, offering me traditional vegetarian German food!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567443
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568698
If you were constantly going on and on about how much you supposedly hate them, it wouldn't be surprising, much like how many anti-gay politicians suck more dicks than your mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568569
This is the so cringe I'd take being molested by that robot over having to watch it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568701
>minority of cases
The people who are most vocal about their anti are also a vast minority of people who are disgusted or disturbed by loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568583
It's funny how these people are doing service to actual neo-nazis, since they kept using the term so much it pretty much lost any meaning

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568399
>trembling uncontrollably all day
Totally well-adjusted normal behavior btw.

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>>19567386
Because ENtubers are all trash SJW Marxist-indoctrinated community college whores that are just jumping on the ironic-weeb bandwagon. They actually hate anime culture just the same as game journos hate gaming.

More or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
This is what being a christian amerimutt does to your brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
>>19568276
>>19568251
>Canadian
>tranny
>"ummm people are trying to ban CRT in america what is happening to society"
Bros
Bros
I want canada to be nuked off the fucking map, I think the world would strongly improve and /vt/'s quality would go up.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not into loli but I will defend your right to masturbate to fictional depictions of fictional children.
I jack it to plenty of stuff that would be horrendously illegal if it was real, just not loli because I like curves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568925
Good luck nuking a Chinese colony

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568698
Well... Kinda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568925
I'm just waiting for China to annex us publicly and execute all the lgbt sex deviants

[Anonymous No.]

Does the fact that Gura is so popular and still shameless about her love for loli and being one make these people seethe?

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>>19568813
The majority of politicians are anti-gay, what you're talking about is literally your personal bias because there was dennis hastert 20 years ago when 90% of congress voted to ban gay marriage. And he was literally a gay pedo, proving that gay pedos are literally a menace and he was right to ban himself.

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>>19568701
>If lolicons actually constructed an argument
Oh, look, another one.
>The first world will always despise pedophiles
Correct, but actual normalfags just go "lol you be jacking off to chinese cartoons".
Or they would just ignore it, because why the fuck wouldn't they? "Some dorks talking about chinese cartoons is no problem of mine"
It's mainly the retards who can't separte fiction from reality, actually think a drawing is a child and can't accept that some people "liking children" are more acceptable than themselves, so they try to attack it.

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>>19568649
Yeah but societies with priests in them have lots of experience with the subject.

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>>19567386
Because pedophilia????

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>>19569001

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>>19569001
Shell bikinis are top tier but sadly they never get much play in art. Maybe whorefish, whoreca and whoreshark can fish that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568931
/meat/? /ringo/?

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>>19569001
>shameless about her love for loli
She's very much lowkey about it. She has full plausible deniability, so I don't know why you would call it shameless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568701
I think child predators should get a bullet to the brain. Loli hentai is fine, it's a drawing. I'd rather pedos watch hentai than rape actual children

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569007
It's pretty easy to find that there was more than just one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569122
>lowkey
Watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569122
Not him but
>cute and funny cute and funny cute and funny
>haha crying emoji so that's so silly guys
I'd call her shameless but maybe these retarded memes haven't penetrated that far into the normie world. I really can't tell anymore what is subtle and what isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569122
Yeah you are right, she likes hags

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569287
She likes AquaShion as a set like most people of the neighbor wars era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569445
Noel, Okayu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569483
Good taste.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would you bother putting that shit in your bio is my only question

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
They're absolutely seething that their tits don't buy them free views and easy money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569130
>I think child predators should get a bullet to the brain.
Kill yourself. It is consensual most of the time and you are enabling "waaaaaaaaah shes 17 you sick fuck she can't consent noooooo" type of people. Just because media told you it was "rape" doesn't make it true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569672
What if a fine gentleman of the dark variety had consent from the parents to impregnate a child whose age is in the single digit?

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>>19567386
They unironically can’t separate 2D from 3D. It’s the same argument concerning video games causing violence. I personally don’t care for loli but as long as it’s 2D I don’t care. In the same vain we should ban all rape porn or rape fantasies because it encourages rape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569751
>impregnate
>child
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569751
he'd be worshiped as a prophet

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569600
Because bitching about loli is literally their only personality so of course it would be the main thing they describe about about themselves in brief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569001
damn brat... ###

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569672
greekchama...

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>>19567386
Are you really just allowed to copy Blizzard characters and call it your own?

[Anonymous No.]

They should fight Carol to the death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569962
I hate the bitch but
>Blizzard
Who the fuck cares? They're the same retards that tried to cover their losses by saying that, since their brand was growing, its growth outpaced their losses, and so it made them a profit >>10932741

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568701
>if lolicons actually constructed an argument
The opposing side has literally no intention of arguing or debating or changing their stance; you'll just get called a pedophile, end of discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567443
This. Christian women's societies in America petitioned for the AoC to be raised to 21, but they could only manage 18. Previously it was 13.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570237
Greekchama...

[Anonymous No.]

it's insane how lolicons will say they aren't real children but then spout statistics about how having sex with kids isn't bad
i like lolis but i hate being associated with you retarded fucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568698
Actually, yeah. This is why snakes have been a metaphorical symbol of dicks for thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570362
>snakes
>dicks
They're obviously onaholes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570352
>it's insane how lolicons will say they aren't real children but then spout statistics about how having sex with kids isn't bad
Have you ever considered that they might not be the same people?
Why do you think having sex with kids is inherently a bad thing? If no one is hurt in the process why is it wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569672
17 year old isn't pero. I'm talking like prepubescent children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568076
Didn't this already happen and it pissed them off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570613
>Them
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570533
I understand but there is a lot of people that consider it pedophilia and consider 17 year olds as "children". You are enabling these kind of people by saying child predators should get the bullet. You should always ask if the child in question here is actually a child and rape is actually a rape.

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>>19570613
>them
Wait, what? The "dark mistress" is also part of the alphabet group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570461
Kids can't consent pedochama

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570693
Why not? Can you define what "consent" means?

[Anonymous No.]

>being so mentally handicapped that you think drawings are real and that drawings should have more rights than actual real existing breathing people

Unironic schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570693
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570676
>You should always ask if the child in question here is actually a child and rape is actually a rape

[Anonymous No.]

>>19569151
It is a bit of a man bites dog situation though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570784
What are you confused about? If someone claims that 16 yr old is a child then they are wrong. If they claim that children can't consent then they are bullshitting. I am not arguing that children can't be raped. I am arguing that not everything that gets called a "child rape" is actually a "child rape".

[Anonymous No.]

well fuckin hell...that avatar was right up my alley...caught some early streams months ago but never bothered keeping up...is it seriously a troon? MtF or FtM?

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>>19570677
'Them' isn't a term that can only be attached to the alphabet group, dude. It can be used to refer to a group or a singular person as well. As far as I know they've got a pussy - a legitimate one - but I remember that they were bitching someone out about a lolified version of someone.

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>>19570734

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>>19570613
Either her or Mims. Takahata and company have been disastrous for the vtubbing world

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>>19570907

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>>19570899
he
he has a penis
you still keep calling him "they" you retarded twitter tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570899
this may be true, but cimrai is part of or at least aligned with the alphabet group

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567506
So /vt/ is almost entirely deadbeats

[Anonymous No.]

Having sex with children is wrong. It's wrong to even think about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570986
Could be, dunno. I don't care about this whore besides the model, but even then that's probably so fucking difficult to get art of due to the complexity that there's most likely no decent porn.
>>19570981
Cry about it. Take it up with a language teacher, not me.

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>>19570964
tl;dr
>I don't moralize against loli itself, I moralize against the faggots who are into loli in the contemporary west
>jerking off on kids is morally neutral or a slight negative
>The reason why pedo were good in ancient Greece is because they would introduce the kids they jerked off on to social and political life and guide them through it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
It makes girls mad when they create a model with the body of a bimbo and try really hard to be called ''mommy'' only to lose for a little girl

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>>19570461
Because their bodies aren't ready for it?
Because their minds aren't ready for it or even aware of it?
The absolute fucking state of lolipedos. Scratch beneath the surface just a little and this is what you get. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570879
>If they claim that children can't consent then they are bullshitting
Why? Why can't you understand that children can't consent?

>>19571197
Oh, so you're also one.

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>>19571099
>Could be, dunno.
just read her twitter history, it's all there

[Anonymous No.]

What exactly is the legitimate argument against "it's just a drawing" because I have yet to see one single solid response to that line, only seething and mental gymnastics

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>>19571197
You didn't answer my question "If no one is hurt in the process why is it wrong?".
>Because their bodies aren't ready for it?
Sure. I can see why vaginal or anal penetration is wrong. But why would a blowjob or kissing be wrong?
>Because their minds aren't ready for it or even aware of it?
So what? Children do shit ton of things without being aware. Why do you consider sex to be an inherently a harmful thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568576
>Says loli's are ok
>replies to 13 year olds on twitter
Anon...your reps.. Fulgur is THE cunny chad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571287
Help me understand that why they can not consent then nigger. Present an actual argument instead of saying they just can't.

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>>19571367
Because there isn't. Also, it's not technically "it's a drawing", more like "it's a drawing of a fictional person", because drawings of a real person are another can of worms.
I'd post that one image about how not being able to difference fantasy and reality means there's something wrong with your brain, but I don't have it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568649
it was but then they changed it from pedophilia to homosexuality sometime in the 1900's. makes ya thonk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568576
Yes. Literally every vtuber whether they are a tranny of a nazi or a member of ISIS has a base here as long as they say or strongly imply they like or are at least okay with some form of loli porn even if it is only the "she is canonically 18" kind.

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>>19571329
As I said, I have no interest in this dumb bitch beyond wanting to fuck the model. Not going to seethe over someone being a virtue gang signing retard for Good Boy Points on the internet when the someone in question could drop dead and not affect my life in the slightest. Here, take this. This is an infinitely better use of your time to look at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571197
loli=/=pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568332
Must mean that cunny was on the side of virtue all along

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>>19571421
Because they don't get why some things shouldn't be done. They're essentially psychopats, and their consent is as valid as any other mental patient consent.
If you wanna keep going and argue why a mental patient can consent, sure.

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>>19571799
Ok, so you are telling me that they CAN actually consent but they shouldn't be consenting to sex. I can respect that opinion because at least you aren't being dishonest like other people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571947
The goalposts will always change. There's no point in arguing with antis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567386
>Why are western vtubbers so hostile to Loli?
because old women can not accept the fact that men like them young

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>>19571947
nta but kids don't understand fully what they're consenting to
they can say the words "ok yes" but they don't know the implications or the consequences of what these words mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570613
Never heard of it before but I'd sure like to see.

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>>19571947
I already said it in the post. "They don't get why some things shouldn't be done". As >>19572055 said, kids are fucking stupid, even when they think they're outplaying you.

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>>19570613
Yes, look in the /lig/ archives they threw a fit when someone drew them as a loli while they were melting down about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572055
>>19572186
I understand what you are saying but that's different than just saying they literally can't consent. What you should be saying instead is they shouldn't be consenting to sex. Otherwise you are just abusing the language to give people different ideas than what is actually going on. Which is precisely what feminists did to raise the age of consent.

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>>19572388
>they shouldn't be consenting to sexual acts
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572388
>abusive language
fuck back off to reddit retard
nobody actually thinks kids can't say YES they know that kids don't know what that yes actually means
the only people who don't get it are autists
i'm not even an anti, i love loli, i just am annoyed with pedo faggots ruining it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572528
I understand that you don't want to face with reality anon. Have a nice day while you pretend that you aren't jacking off to fantasy of having sex with children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572528
You're retarded if you think kids can't be taught the repercussions of their actions.

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>>19572528
Don't sperg out against him, it's what he wants.

>>19572388
So they can consent to anything else? Like living away from their home? Staying outside until they turn legal? Grooming? You are the one abusing the language, retardchama.

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>>19572667
How? The only way I've seen kids learning to not do shit is by doing it and suffering from it. And even then, some of the little retards think it can't possibly happen twice and do it again/keep doing it.

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>>19567386
They’re culture war-poisoned cloutchasers with no respect for the culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572720
They CAN consent to it, yes. You can argue that they SHOULDN'T be living away from their home and their consent shouldn't matter and i'd agree with it. Which is precisely what i am arguing here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572806
You're delusional is you think sex is any more damaging than trying to figure out what to wear for school.

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>>19572865
When did I talk about "what to wear for school"? Want an example? My cousin tried to touch the hot iron once and his mother caught him and told him why he shouldn't do it? What do you think happened? Next week the idiot was crying because he touched the iron.

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>>19573020
And that bears an element of pain that isn't innate to sex. This is why people become sex addicts, because there is no inherent downside to sex. You retards compare sex to murder when it comes to kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572865
>sex and picking out an outfit have the same consequences
i hate this modern life
i hate you people
filth

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>>19573119
>that bears an element of pain that isn't innate to sex
>there is no inherent downside to sex
Retardchama, its kids we're talking about. Going by your own arguments, their bodies aren't developed enough.
>This is why people become sex addicts
They become that from only thinking about sex and conditioning their brains to it.
None of the shit you said can be applied to kids. If you wanna argue, don't argue in bad faith.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573129
NTA but what consequences? Why do you think sex is an harmful act? I get the "bodies not developed enough" argument but what consequences can oral sex possibly have?

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>>19573273
My argument? I never made such an argument.
>They become that from only thinking about sex and conditioning their brains to it.
Because it's pleasurable.
>None of the shit you said can be applied to kids
Proof?
>don't argue in bad faith.
Projection.

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>>19573455
>Because it's pleasurable.
So are drugs, hedonismchama.
>Proof
The "bodies aren't developed enough" sentence that you omitted.
>Projection
I think you mean Project, because the new MS Project has new features that make working with it easier than before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573607
>So are drugs
Nice strawman. Drugs have an element of inherent harm. Sex does not.
>bodies aren't developed enough
Fake. Not true. Already been deboonked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567443
Yeah that is why all christian kings had loli wives, lmao, the dudes convinced you it was bad just so they could keep all the goods.

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>>19573715
>Not true. Already been deboonked
How is it that you said it? Ah, yes. Proof?
>Sex does not
Weren't >we talking about how pleasurable something was? You're the one adding the "muh harm" dimension. Both are addictive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568701
https://youtu.be/xLDUfMWmRAA

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>>19567386
Cheap virtue signalling for most, projection from actual sex pests for a signifigant portion of them. Like male feminists, you just know they’d rape anything in sight if they think they can get away with it. No normal adult has ever loudly proclaimed I THINK PEDOPHILIA IS BAD, AMIRITE?
It’s like being a parent and you dozed off on the couch and your 6 year old runs in and says I DIDN’T BREAK ANYTHING.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568701
Nooooope lol

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>>19568701
>This is a huge minority of cases
See >>19568356

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>>19571799
This is you saying that you think they shouldn’t, not that they can’t. They can and have.

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>>19572055
So they can and do consent, but shouldn’t. People agree to things they don’t really understand every day, including legal contracts that change the fate of nations, or legislation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19570676
>>19569672
burgers have shit aoc laws
so retards like this use the laws that treat 17 year olds the same as 10 year olds to slip in their bullshit
germany/italy do it right

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>>19568399

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>>19572720
I agree that children shouldn’t be allowed to “consent” to sex change bullshit and trooning out a child is always child abuse of the gravest kind.

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>>19574191
>they have
>that means they can
fallacychama...

>>19574299
If your implication is that their consent shouldn't be valid in a good world, then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573847
I see now. You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567443
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574439
>can't say anything else so go with "retard"
I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574516
Uh hes right tho. You are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574516
stfu pedo
you should kill yourself before you ruin anyone else's childhood you fucking retarded piece of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568701
Just check the rates of underage pregnacy in those countries. They despise 2D loli but get pregnant actual children. Catolic priest raping minors is a great example

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574641
Did you misquote? That one anon was the one arguing with the pedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>loli thread
based
>thread arguing about the legality of having sex with kids
cringe
also the real redpill is that even if the age of consent was lowered you fags would still be virgins who can’t get laid to save your own life

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574788
Not a pedo, just someone with common sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574804
But, I'm not a virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574804
>even if the age of consent was lowered you fags would still be virgins who can’t get laid to save your own life
Nah, the change would be that their sentences would be for sexual assault instead of child abuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573891
Not a great argument coming from a guy who raped three child prostitutes in Thailand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19575023
That never happened. He was maligned by the media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19575049
He openly admitted to it for years until it became inconvenient to the clout he has become accustomed to to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568399
> a mentally ill homosexual
yes.
anyone who looks at an average American and sees a Neo-nazi is literally a brain-conditioned marxist-tool.

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>>19573441
Hepatitis. I can understand being attracted to young-People as they reach puberty, there may be something in a spectrum of normal or innate attraction there.
Below that age-range though, I do think that It's getting into something abnormal. Sexual trauma is instilled in Men in Westerners, Islamic People and Jews at a latent age. This arguably has the effect of fixating a neurotic and damaged modality of sexual impulses in reference to infancy.
Relevant to the thread though, maybe it isn't even so much an attraction to younger People at the age of entering puberty that really makes it so that Lolicons, Pedophiles and Ephebophiles are viewed as repulsive and disgusting. All we need do is consider the response to Nyanners backing out of the Lolicon fandom and those of It's demographic who congregated here on 4-chan. I'd like to think that there were some who didn't take that personal and were understanding as to why she might have not liked where it was going. Yet we still have a highly vocal and unhinged number of posters who are constantly stroking their Hate-boners over her. It's things like that which end up giving Lolicons and MAPS a bad name -besides cases where young People have been sadistically abused, trafficked and murdered and to be fair, we do need to understand that there is a huge difference between that and someone who jerks off to Lolicon and has fantasies that feature consent and no extreme sexual acts.
Shite like Drag-Queen story-time isn't helping either.

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>>19567386
Because when its sexual then its paedophilia and the Vtuber in your image was a victim of child pornography i.e. was used to make it . So do you really think they will have good thoughts about it?

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>>19575135
Fake

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>>19575259
And someone can just a easily rape a kid, dude with hep c shouldnt be having sex at all. Adults fall for this, too. Does that mean adults can't consent? Fix your logic, dumbass.

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>>19575259
>MAP
Oh. You're one of THOSE.

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>>19575401
I don’t think Cmrai was used to make anime lolicon anon, only 3DPD cp, it is no excuse to dislike good drawings.

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>>19575538
You get my point and you can see the overlap

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>>19575652
NTA, but what overlap?

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>>19575259
>Hepatitis
What if you take precautions to ensure that this doesn't happen though? Using a condom or just not having a sex when you have an STD. Does that mean having sex with a minor if you can't transmit an STD is okay? I'd argue that it is but let's not pretend that STDs are what average person is concerned about here.
>I do think that It's getting into something abnormal
I do agree that pedophilia is abnormal. It doesn't make it something bad though. We do a lot of things that can be considered abnormal or unnatural in life.
>trauma
I have never seen a convincing evidence that a sexual act that doesn't involve force can cause a trauma. But i am open to listen to you if you can provide some.
> It's things like that which end up giving Lolicons and MAPS a bad name -besides cases where young People have been sadistically abused, trafficked and murdered and to be fair, we do need to understand that there is a huge difference between that and someone who jerks off to Lolicon and has fantasies that feature consent and no extreme sexual acts.
I agree. I share similar concerns about actual rape and abuse of kids with regular people. All I'm arguing is that pedophilia is not inherently a bad thing nor are sexual acts are inherently damaging.

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>>19575724
That the difference between a naked 3D child and a naked loli is none

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I still need an answer on whether I'm supposed to envision a vagoo or bologna when I'm masturbating to this.

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>>19575652
No, most other CSA survivors tend to be loli VTubers, lewd ones especially. Seems pretty rude to other victims to associate their current actions with her abuse.

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>>19575937
That looks like a MtF trannys ideal self.

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>>19575967
Doubt

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>>19575481
There is a difference between the understanding that an adult has regarding engaging in sexual activity and how a younger person is going to conceive of and integrate that into their lives. There are countries where the age of consent is as low as 12 and from what I just looked up, the youngest is 9. What I ultimately advocate for is that we need to have a societal model where Young-People are allowed to develop in as naturalistic a fashion as possible and with respect for what they advocate for as individuals. If we can get to that point, we could find a way to determine what is genuinely innate for People's sexuality: As it is currently, we are in a stew of neuroticism and negative influences around our sexuality and those need to be cleared on the social-collective level before we can safely and clearly determine what is the best way to handle how and when sexual initiation occurs.

>>19575841
I'd be more concerned about the emotional and social fall-out on a younger Person and that's what I'm really trying to get at. You can't expect them to be prepared for it before a certain age when they don't have the where-withal to deal with things like break-ups, rivalries, conflict in the relationship with their partners. There needs to be a solid degree of maturity and self-advocacy in that. I dislike seeing that as a criteria on one level because I do have to admit that there are definitely People around who have that level of Emotional intelligence into age-ranges below puberty. Which is one of the reasons why I think an ideal scenario would be one where they are allowed to develop their level of interest in sexual experiences without being groomed: Yet balanced in this societal ideal by having People open to giving them the information and help in advocacy that they specifically ask for when It's requested. Not this insanely conflicting and neurotic crap where pushing Gender-reassignment on them is seen as the proper response to their reacting to how their bodies are changing and the sense of displacement that can come with that.

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>>19571367
It could cause turn someone into a real criminal.
As with any fictional crimes.

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>>19567386
>complain about fictional drawings
>as a fictional drawing
I hope one day points out to her following her logic she's wearing the alien version of Blackface. Think of the poor Zerglings!

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Western Vtubers are a fucking trip. They have a loli avatar and refuse to be called a loli

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>>19577088
Hasn't this been debunked multiple times though?

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>>19577311
I think the second half of the post was anon taking the piss out of people who unironically believe the first half.

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Many westoids are full of double standards and false sense of moral superiority.

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>>19573808
This tradition has continued to this day.

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>>19568649
No, but they need to virtue signal it, or someone else will take the ripe cunny.

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>>19573808
Same with muslims. It was that way in most if not all parts of the until 20th century. Even my grandma married at the age of 13 which was just two generations ago. Nowadays having sex with a 17 year old is considered pedophilia here. Media brainwashing is truly real.

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>>19568692
>shitting on china
He should stop. This is why he’s the least successful, because he keeps biting the hand that feeds him.

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>>19577624
They were trying to get him fired because of bad translations and dragging in multiple unrelated people into it. He's not firing random shots my dude.

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>>19568701
>If lolicons actually constructed an argument
implying there even needs to be an argument lmfao it's cartoons

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>>19569672
>loli isn’t real children therefore it’s okay
>thread of loli defenders is also full of pedo defenders
Hmm. I’m starting to think lolicons and pedophiles may have something in common.

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>>19577746
Yeah?
>>19577400
>>19568356

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>>19577685
It doesn’t matter. Picking a fight with China can put the rest of Nijisanji at risk. He’s a fucking professional and he needs to learn to suck it up and deal with unreasonable fans. Why do you think all the holos pretend they don’t have boyfriends instead of whining about a vtuber’s right to date like certain others do? If he can’t handle it, he’s a low quality vtuber and that’s why he’s not popular.

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>>19577746
That's just your confirmation bias reading a handful of posts compared to the rest saying otherwise.

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>>19577746
>>loli isn’t real children therefore it’s okay
Yes. There is no scenario where drawings are ever not okay. They are just drawings, end of the story.
>>thread of loli defenders is also full of pedo defenders
These things aren't mutually exclusive. Just because you believe loli should be allowed doesn't mean you think pedophilia is inherently wrong.
>I’m starting to think lolicons and pedophiles may have something in common.
Nice "got you" there buddy.

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>>19568701
If nobody is being hurt, it's not wrong.
Nobody is hurt when lolicon is drawn, so it's not wrong.
No victim exists.
There, no further arguments are required.

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>>19577746
Lolis are nice and I'd volunteer to execute child abusers.
Maybe I'm the exception to the rule?

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>>19577902
I think you should probably stop talking about things you don't understand. He's not even the 50th person in the company whose shat on chinese antis and not even the 100th whose shat on antis in general.

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>>19567386
insecurities and moral correctness apeal

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>>19577349
>>19577311
When Denmark made child porn legal (by accident) there was a overall decreases in crimes reading sexual abuse against children and all that. When this was reported to the Danish government then patted themselves on the back for a job well done


Forgetting what was needed in order to produce said child pornography

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>>19577975
Maybe you can differentiate between reality and fiction but according to newfags that's impossible

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>>19577975
>Maybe I'm the exception to the rule?
No, you just understand that there is a difference between being attracted to kids and abusing them.

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>>19577975
No, anons just being a retard and not understanding the differences between fiction and reality due to his undiagnosed schizophrenia. I jerk off to /d/egenerate shit, that doesn't mean I wanna see a girl in real life with a horse dick. I'd probably fucking hurl at the sight of it.

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>>19578037
Overwhelming majority of producers of child porn are children themselves.

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>>19578019
But I thought he was shitting on China as a result of Chinese antis? Are you saying he was shitting on antis specifically and someone twisted that scenario to claim he was shitting on China? So he’s not actually shitting on China?

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>>19578161
They need to be corrected ###

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>>19567386
Women follow trends. Currently trendy to hate loli. That's all there is to it.

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>>19571367
I mean, I don’t want to ban loli, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to be grossed out by it and not want to interact with or see it. It’s fucking weird. Like furries. Or scatfags.
This thread seems to be in response to a vtuber simply not being accepting of lolicons which I don’t really see the problem with. If you’re a degenerate then you should just proudly deal with being detested. Why do you demand respect?

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>>19567386
There's a dissonance between vtweeters and corpos, agencies and a few indies. The former bandwagoned into vtubing, while the latter are in touch with the medium which includes all the weird shit like several vtubers liking lolis
I said it in a previous thread, it's amazing how vtweeters will go "waaah, lolicons should be gatekept" and no one bats an eye when it comes to corpos
The truth is, lolicon is becoming more of a normalized niche, so by the near future you'll see Gura expressing how she wants to touch lolis

Now, if you want to see something funny, check out this tweet and then make click on the hidden replies. It demonstrates the dissonance I previously mentioned between vtweeters and the rest of the communit
>https://twitter.com/kyaree_vt/status/1497457258870890497

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>>19572055
By age 5 kids nudity and society's privacy rules, but probably don't fully comprehend why it's wrong. It's why they stop running around naked and why girls around age 7 start to want privacy when bathing and changing clothes.
By age 10, most children can have a basic and fairly realistic understanding of puberty, how “babies are made,” pregnancy, and childbirth, because they were taught this 4 years ago. Kids around the age of 10-13 (middle schoolers) would fully understand physical sexual activity if they were given accurate sources of information for it, which doesn't happen because parents and society do not want to go into full detail about this. For safety reasons they take a shut-it-lock-it approach telling them to wait till they are older or suffer repercussions. Essentially banning sex. While also convincing the rest of society that kids experimenting with each other is problematic sexual behavior. Since internet porn is so readily available the vast majority of kids will get it through that. An inaccurate portrayal of sex and intimacy. Depending on what they searched for could also give them warped values, fake incest porn is pretty popular on pornhub.
The argument that they don't fully comprehend stems from parents telling them it is wrong to have sex till they're older, that the majority don't get that discovery experience (only 7-10% are involved in sexual activity by age 13), and porn giving a wildly inaccurate view on sex. Like nudity, they don't understand why it's wrong when in reality it isn't wrong at all for them to experiment, it's human nature.
I don't have any argument to offer, but just want to dispel the whole "they don't understand it" bullshit which stems from westerners terrible sex ed. Their brains are fully capable of understanding it, they are just not given the opportunity to experience it or are told they shouldn't experience it. Until they are in highschool, when most learn it was not all it was cracked up to be.

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>>19578166
Like I said, he was shitting on people attacking him for saying things he literally never said due to horrible translations. In this specific case for you ESLchama, he was shitting on the chinese antis attacking him for "mistreating his senpai" and not "properly respecting him" through poorly his banter on Twitter that was then poorly translated from English to Chinese and spread around whereever the Chinese internet does its business with vtubers, which then caused antis to go into other streamers twitters/channels demanding an answer for what in reality was just Sonny having fun with a co-worker.

So once again, please stop talking about things you don't understand.

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>>19578443
>through poorly his banter on Twitter that was then poorly translated from English to Chinese
Ignore the first "poorly", that was me forgetting to erase it when I was moving around the post to make it as clear as possible to an average ESL.

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>>19578337
>a vtuber simply not being accepting of lolicons
The thing is that the retarded vtuber (and a good part of "anime community" twitter) compares lolicons with child abusers. And of course the actual child abusers see lolicons and are outraged by lolicons not feeling or being considered dregs of society like themselves, so they also claim that liking loli means that you abuse (fictional) children.

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>>19578443
Okay, so was he actually shitting on China or not? That was the initial claim, right? Was that the truth, or was it a lie? Yes or no, dont give me another wall of text to circumvent the answer.

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>>19568880
This.

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>>19578555
The wall of text isn't circumventing the answer, the wall of text is a play-by-play of the answer. If your reading comprehension skills are this bad, go back and do another English course and stop posting on English imageboards.

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>>19578528
I don’t think lolicons are viewed the same way as child abusers in the mainstream at all. People still joke about lolicons. They bully them and shit on them, but they’re not treated with the same disgust as actual child abusers. The vtuber in question is asking lolicons not to argue with her, not telling them to kill themselves.

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>>19578555
>was he actually shitting on China or not?
zhangchama, I...

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>>19578637
I want you to state it clearly though, anon. Say that the initial post was a lie and he never shit on China. Come on. You can do it.

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>>19567386
I can understand it not being to someones taste but it just seems fucking retarded that 1 of her(?) 4 twitter bio lines is dedicated to it.

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>>19578761
My posts began at >>19577685, mister schizo.

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>>19578412
>>19578412
>and porn giving a wildly inaccurate view on sex
porn giving a wildly inaccurate view on sexual engagement*
Not just the physical activity of fucking, but how sex is engaged in and what lead up to it (intimacy, partnership, etc).

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>>19567386
Mahmoud abn-Sulein al-Cimrai is not representative of the religion of peace that is vtubing thank you

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>>19578412
I've heard rumors that the Amish will allow boys and girls to sleep with each other when they start showing interest.

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>>19578800
Then why didn’t you just correct the guy that said he was shitting on China? Jeez anon, if only you read the thread properly from the beginning, we wouldn’t even be here. It’s okay. English isn’t everybody’s first language.

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>>19578555
anon literally said
> he was shitting on the chinese antis attacking him
also why the fuck are you bringing this up here?

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>>19567386
This doesnt have anything to do with protecting children or depictions of cheese pizza, they are mostly angry at popular thing...I guess Gura and Luna being the target. Don't get me wrong, actual freaks like Amos Yee are unironic while guys like Dr. Pizza and Amirox will use moralfaggotry to hide their crimes. Closing down debate like this unprompted seems suspect...unless thats all Twitter has nowadays, I dont know I dont fuck with it.

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>>19578705
>I don’t think lolicons are viewed the same way as child abusers in the mainstream at all
That's the thing. Lolicons, on the mainstream, are just "those creepy dudes that jack off to chinese girls" but are otherwise left alone. Pedos get jailed and then raped on prison.
>>19578705
>The vtuber in question is asking lolicons not to argue with her
Even in the OP, it says
>NSFW Lolicon Debate = instant block
I'll give the vtuber the benefit of doubt (since I didn't hear of Cimrai before) and say that probably the debate is blocked because, as I mentioned, the "anime community" thinks that lolicons are child abusers. Not the mainstream, but the retards that consider themselves "anime community", watch ecchi anime and think "yeah, I like it, but tone down the problematic stuff". See >>19568356

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>>19578443
Dude you shouldn’t have given a serious response to what was clearly a series of rhetorical questions calling out this post: >>19568692
Man, you people are really poorly socialized.

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>>19578348
>that link
i always see the same few arguments from these types
>it’s a drawing of a child so it’s BAD
this one is especially funny to me because all art is an abstraction but anime is especially so. the same people that complain about these supposed underage designs have models that are roughly 6 heads tall in proportion which would be considered teen proportions and is the exact thing they complain about. see: https://hpc.anatomy4sculptors.com/
It’s fucking stupid and the jaws argument is even dumber.

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>>19578155
>I jerk off to /d/egenerate shit, that doesn't mean I wanna see a girl in real life with a horse dick.
weak af

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>>19567386
Shitlibs

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>>19569188
>>19569271
>>19569287
I'm not saying she doesn't dogwhistle hard and imply it, I'm saying she keeps it within plausible deniability, and doesn't outright state being a lolicon.
I wouldn't call that shameless. Shamless would be nijisanji's kenmochi who admits fully to being a lolicon and tries to get female vtubers to do loli streams during bets.

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americans and americanized folks from other countries think that fiction is no different from reality

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>>19578977
>Then why didn’t you just correct the guy that said he was shitting on China?
I literally did...

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>it's only a 2D drawing, it's not hurting anyone
>immediate mental gymnastics about trying to rationalise having sex with actual children
this entire fucking thread needs to be purged with a flamethrower

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>>19568356
holy jesas

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>>19572865
all i know is that my favorite jew psychiatrist once said that after 10 years in the field, the only thing he could really be confident of was that having sex as a child generally tended to mess people up.

He's about as iconoclastic as they come, so figured i'd trust him on that one

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>Tranny faggot that /vt/ won't ever stop posting.
Convinced it's that tranny faggot who keeps shilling it's trash here.

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>>19582003
Freud said the same but later retracted it because he found out there were a significantly larger portion of people who were raped as kids than who were traumatized as an adult. He couched this as essentially it doesn’t hurt everyone but the ones it does it hurts very badly. It is probably more complicated than that and more people have trauma than he theorized.

>>19582131
They absolutely do, there are a bunch of deleted tweets where they directly linked to 4chan when they were starting out and openly shilled in the /trash/ vtuber threads.

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>>19582131
It's almost like people who use 4chan can have a variety of opinions on things.

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>>19582399
Nah, using 4chan means you're open to character assassination.

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>>19577624
I'm retarded and am assuming you meant that there are chinese women with VPN's sending supers to the NijiEN talents?

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I was a 2view, when I talked about liking lolis either other vtubers would give me shit or viewers would make the same stale-ass unfunny FBI open up!! yabai!!! jokes, so I just shut up about it. The type of people who watch Western vtubers are trash who are either ironically into loli to act edgy and get reactions, or NPC bandwagoners who parrot other people's opinions. It's just not worth it to talk about it a lot of the time.

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>>19584896
That's why when you're with that "community", you just don't participate. There's a reason why "don't reveal your powerlevel" used to be a thing. Just remember to not participate in their retardation.

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>>19567386
I blocked this retard. why do envtubers enjoy in grifting and creating drama as a way to build their numbers? maybe it's because their content sucks ass and they can't raise a following through it alone.

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>>19585528
Twitter interactions rarely translate into stream viewers though so roasties like this feel compelled to keep being vTweeters for that sweet validation

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>>19567386
As a westerner I'd like to apologize on behalf of my western brothers, and sisters. Please understand a lot of them are just retarded, and can't help it.

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>>19567506
She has a young daughter, and she was molested.

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>>19588808
A lot of people who get molested do tend to become molesters themselves, seems she has the opportunity and the guilt so it is very probable.

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>>19570613
No, and she's the one who told people to do it.

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>>19567386
Western hags realize subconsciously that they missed the boat and will never be loved. Thus younger girls, even ones that that are fictional feel threatening to them.

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>>19574325
California, Florida, and a couple other states you mean. 50% of the country is 17 and the remaining 45% is 16.

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>>19567386
Imagine having your main gimmick be being sexually charged. Then imagine losing in lewds to someone with a "childlike" avatar.

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>>19574325
Sometimes I unironically think yanderedev, and his sex license was smarter than those people.

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>>19588808
Begging for oyakodon art.

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>>19567506
/Thread
>"I HATE LOLICON/PEDOS" said the twitter user
>Get Exposed for being an irl pedo months later
Never stops getting hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

low trust society due to mexicans and niggers flooding the streets

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>>19567386
It's simple really, their education is so fucked to a point that they don't understand what is fiction and non-fiction.

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>>19568399
Of course

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>>19567386

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>>19567386
because they are pedophiles themselves. they deflect and say that loli is real pedophilia because they're fucking an actual child or hiding gigs upon gigs of csem on their hard drive. many such cases. just wait for cim to come out for grooming her own children sooner or later, it'll happen.

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>>19568399
Jesus, her politics are dogshit.
It's sad majority of imbeciles are like this. No wonder society is crumbling to the ground

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>>19568703
Alright

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>>19591863
UOOOHHH
Now this is how you handle this kind of people.

[Anonymous No.]

Im convinced shes the one making these threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>19595419
Without question she is. She's trying to bait out more loli art of herself and sexual harassment because she's a BDSM freak who gets off to that kind of stuff.

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>>19575937
I don't know but I do wonder if she spelled her name with a hard C because she wanted to call herself Quimrai.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably havent found a good loli hentai, so assume it is all shit