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19533567 No.19533567 [Reply] [Original]

Hololive EN management fucked up with how spaced out the EN debuts have been, maybe trying to imitate hololive JP's recent debut schedule.
They forgot that Cover debuted gen 1 and 2 between May-September 2018 (4-5 months), and in 2019 they debuted 2 gamers, gen 3 and 4.

They should've debuted a couple of gens in rapid succession, with 4-5 months between each gen. EN2/Council should've debuted around January 2021 to complement Myth, EN3 around June-July 2021 and EN4 between October 2021-February 2022. This would've ensured good talents in the west would be hired by your company and there would be more variety of collabs and group collabs instead of the same pairings for over a year. It took them 1 year to be able to do a full EN among us collab because they lacked participants

By spacing out so much EN2 debut, they allowed western companies to copycat them with their own vtubing companies and steal potential talents in an already limited western talent pool. And if some of your talents are lazy and unmotivated, or her tummy hoorts, you just lost 10% of your manpower per talent that didn't stream (like Sana).

StarsEN should've debuted somewhere in 2021 to take advantage of the lack of male vtubers in the west while riding the hololive hypetrain in the west

>> No.19533639

>>19533567
no

>> No.19533756

>>19533567
Why are nijifags like this?

>> No.19533823

What they should have done is get enough to stream during prime time in several English-speaking time zones

Like Kiara said, where are the European vtubers?

>> No.19533931

>>19533567
nijinigger falseflagger

>> No.19534265

>>19533756
>>19533931
So cover was also falseflagging in 2018 when they debuted 2 gens in 4 months, as well as other individual gen 0 talents in the same year?
With more talents, EN would've been able to do meaningful minecraft collabs in the EN server, varied small group collabs, big collabs, tournaments for some FOTM games in the first year.
If you think 4 EN gens would be too much, then at least EN 3 should've debuted by now

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>>19533567

>> No.19534339

>>19534280
>reads OP
>gets mad
>pretends to not be mad by looking for the specific reaction pic and replying to OP
Thanks for the bump

>> No.19534477

>>19533567
Nah.
>Market's oversaturated with vtubers
>there's no worthy english talents left in the west (look at Holocouncil)
>they already stream so much that people have trouble catching up to all their streams with 11 members

Hololive focuses on quality over quantity and right now they're perfect the way they are.

>> No.19534488

>>19533567
Riku you better start to take care about your 3views instead of trying to accelerate another company.

>> No.19534544

>>19533823
>where are the European vtubers?
dying from radiation poisoning.

>> No.19534640

>>19533823
I still find it amazing how often there's nothing in the early evening EST time zone. Gen 6 gives me more streams than the whole EN branch until it gets to Gura's time slot.

>> No.19534694

>>19534477
>>Market's oversaturated with vtubers
>>there's no worthy english talents left in the west (look at Holocouncil)
Because they didn't do anything for over a year. Myth popularized western vtubers and everyone decided to copy them. The worthy talents were taken because cover was too slow to get them before they got snatched away by black companies and bandwagoners. There's a lot of dead timeslots because they either stream at JP primetime or don't stream for (lack of) specific reasons. Watame's timeslot is almost untouched despite there being 2 EN gens

>> No.19534762

>>19533756
They are very insecure about their oshis please understand...

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19534825

>>19534339
cool head canon

>> No.19534922

>>19534825
It's headcanon

>> No.19534983

Council is an actual flop, Myth are pretty much the gen 3 of EN, They're held to such high standards they'll never be met again.
I rather we get more JP than EN.

>> No.19535009

>>19533823
They'd need a European audience and if Kiara is anything to go by, there really is none.

>> No.19535142

>>19533567
Cover should've spammed Gura channel with song covers

>> No.19535250

>>19535009
Hard to get European audience with Kiara

>> No.19535413

>>19533823
Kiara would have to push for it herself. Like Coco, she's in a uinque position where it's obvious to her where the landmines are but Cover is clueless.

>> No.19535529

No I would much rather have them debut new talent too slowly than churning them out like a soulless factory like nijisanji

>> No.19535533

>>19533567
They won't be able to keep up. That have to watch the all.

>> No.19535563

>>19533823
EU is busy with war

>> No.19535630

>>19533823
>>19534640
Europoors don’t watch or donate so no one wants to cater them. Gura tried to cater to that timezone before they pissed her off so much she stuck with her regular time slot. Kronii used to stream at that time until she and her members decided on her current time slot. They know that time slot is empty but they don’t want to fill it so the best you get is Kiara reading SC.

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19535726

>>19533567
ACCELERATE

>> No.19536543

>>19535529
I'm literally pointing out hololive JP's debut schedule. Churning becomes a problem when there are too many

>> No.19537314

>>19533567
nice blog retard, didnt read

>> No.19537358

>>19537314
Didn't ask, attention whore

>> No.19538962

>>19534265
>EN 3 should've debuted by now
agreed

>> No.19539737

>>19533823
mandatory conscription, plz understand.

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19541676

>>19533567
yeah, I want EU holos

>> No.19542120

>>19533567
Every 6 months is ideal. If council had arrived when I was still in the honeymoon phase with HoloEN I wouldnt have started watching small corpos

>> No.19543790

>>19533567
Meds

>> No.19544140

>>19542120
This, if council debuted 6 months after myth, they would probably have higher viewership because people wouldn't have left for other companies

>> No.19545138

>>19533567
why are nipplesanji like this? just go accelerate more

>> No.19545239

>>19533567
Because the zerg rush strategy worked oh so well for you, nipplenigger

>> No.19545559

>>19545138
>>19545239
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN ONLY DEBUT 1 GEN EVERY 18 MONTHS, YOU CAN'T JUST DO WHAT YOUR COMPANY DID FOR THE PREVIOUS 5 GENS

>> No.19545866

>>19545138
Literally throwing shit at the wall and hopping some of the splatters stick.

>> No.19546079

>>19545866
wasn't Luna previously from niji too? I hope the same happens to one of the nijien girls too

>> No.19549933

>>19546079
I don't think that will happen with the current state of cover

>> No.19550692

>>19546079
I don't know, work environment is something to consider and I think nijien was blessed with it. Elira created their separate discord channel where they hangout a lot and you can feel in their collab they are having too much fun.
I tried to watch HoloEN streams again but I couldn't, no real chemistry between than so I only stick with IryS

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19550750

>>19533567
>more=better
disagree

but EN kinda dropped the ball on CERTAIN talents. >>19533823 is also right, but that niche is taken by indies

>> No.19552663

>>19550750
>but EN kinda dropped the ball on CERTAIN talents
Just say Sana

>> No.19552689

>>19552663
i don't even hate sana, i just wish she streamed more often.

>> No.19552702

>>19533567
Well you got your wish. ENStars is coming

>> No.19553001

>>19552702
>ENStars is coming
They are still auditioning, so there won't be ENStars for the next couple of months

>> No.19553858

>>19535630
Amazing how this meme still exist

>> No.19556345

>>19553858
Check hololyzer, european currencies get beaten by hkd, ntd or even krw all the time

>> No.19557533

If HoloEN streamed as they should stream, that is, a normal rate, like every other popular streamer, we're really not asking them to be slaves behind the computer; there wouldn't be any fucking need for more holos.
Twitchkiddies follow and watch 4-5 streamers and have more than enough content for the week. Meanwhile we have 11 holos and there's gaps all over the place.

>> No.19557713

>>19557533
some have lives, and some just don't stream. mumei probably would stream more if she didn't have civilization duties imo, and she's the best member of council.

>> No.19558528

>>19534477
>Market's oversaturated with vtubers
People have been saying this every year since 2018 and it continues to remain false.

>> No.19560527

>>19558528
>2018
huh???

>> No.19560675

On the contrary, the fact that all of Council has had less success compared to Myth just shows that there wasn't enough time in between the two generations.

>> No.19560897

Council is a lot like JP Gen 5, talented but something just doesn't click.

>> No.19561141

>>19533567
If StarsEN is set to debut this year, would it be safe to assume that HoloEN3 will debut even earlier?

>> No.19561874

>>19533567
Consider this:
>ID3
>New STARS
>EN3
>EN STARS
All coming out this year and possibly JP7.

>> No.19562192

>>19560675
You can chalk that up to having IRyS debut just one month earlier. They should have either done Council and IRyS simultaneously, or waited longer to build anticipation back up.

>> No.19563661

>>19561874
EN3 will be HomoStars EN

>> No.19563827

>>19533567
>saturation good
No

>> No.19563952

>>19545559
yes

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