/#/ - Numbers thread

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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/#/ is declining.

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I'll be taking that gold tomorrow dead cucks thank you very much

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I'd like a less provocative OP image. I'd prefer a basedjak over this.

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>>19517414
Will it reach 120k?

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>>19517761
He's been hitting the lean too hard.
>>19517556
It's that or they have more physical plastic in the models due to the details, thus justifying the increased price. Regardless, it seems...fitting that both of them are at the increased price.

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Mori passed Ina already on the character base screen.

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>>19515328
Not really, merch comparison for Holo Council.

hololive English -Council- Half-Year Celebration

Acrylic Stand (Tsukumo Sana) 292 $17.00 $4,964.00
Acrylic Stand (Ceres Fauna) 444 $17.00 $7,548.00
Acrylic Stand (Ouro Kronii) 454 $17.00 $7,718.00
Acrylic Stand (Nanashi Mumei) 552 $17.00 $9,384.00
Acrylic Stand (Hakos Baelz) 430 $17.00 $7,310.00
Mascot Button Badge Set 503 $41.00 $20,623.00
Mascot Bath Towel 250 $41.00 $10,250.00
$67,797.00

Hakos Baelz Birthday Celebration 2022
Birthday Merch Complete Set 412 $121.00 $49,852.00
BOOM BOOM!! Rubber Mat 346 $25.00 $8,650.00
Official BRUH Snapback Cap 139 $37.00 $5,143.00
#CAFFEINATED Mug 118 $37.00 $4,366.00
System Voicepack(japanese&english) 61 $5.00 $305.00
Situational Voicepack “A Walk Home” 36 $9.00 $324.00
$68,640.00

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Looks like EN gold for holos is secured

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>>19517330

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>>19517984
I'm guessing Bae will probably hit around 120-150k by the end of her merch run.

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>>19517869
Nah that's not the concert it's just the countdown. It'll probably get to 25k still

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>he got BTFO'd and went to make his own thread
>>19517983
>>19517983
>>19517983
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NIJINIGGERS

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Mori poll

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>>19516201
>Go watch something else for a change instead of worshiping one company

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>>19518078
Hopefully numbers go up a bit when she comes back and shills it a bit.
It really was bad timing that she went on break right after dropping a song and merch and can't shill it.

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POLL POLL POLL

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>>19518224
Its for sale until April 4th so she will have plenty of time to shill it. The biggest sales periods are right at the beginning and right at the end anyway.

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>>19518224
Yeah, it hurts a lot.
From what I've noticed with tracking sales is that Holos tend to passively get more merch sales the more they stream and then the final 24 hours is where a huge surge of sales come in.

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>>19518261
>>19518274
Ends at 11.5k before 2 minutes

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>>19518261
>>19518274
cullfags obliterated

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Will it get 60k?

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>>19518261
Normal poll, nothing to see here
t. Susan's underpaid pajeet

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>>19518149
I’m pretty sure that guys a chink, he’s obsessed with Yagoo like they used to be obsessed about reddit.

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did kuzuha end his stream and started another one immediately?

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>>19518370
>Will it get 60k?
It should with that lineup.

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Nothing personal KING

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>>19518546
Damn, Kuzuha marathoning this game.

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>>19518349
Anon...
Anything that hits 100% in under 5 minutes is a strong indication of a cull, but Mori ended the poll before it could go on that long, so it's hard to say either way.
Certainly not as fucked as ID is though.

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>>19518578
Is the right way to do it.
Get it done in 4-5 streams ASAP.

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>>19518546
GO KING GO

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>>19517984
>comparing cheap shitty Holo products to Nijis
Do Holofags really?

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>>19518800
Where's your exquisite high quality Nijimerch?

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>>19518370
Debuff : Roboco, Anpotan
Buff: blue women
Maybe?

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>>19518370
Unlikely but we'll see.

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>>19518800
yeah, because niji bargain bin products are so much better

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>>19518913
In a Famimart poll, most responders likened Nijisanji merchandise to 'bargain-bin' goods, not realizing it was a vtuber agency.
One excitable child noted that he loved Nijisanji because he could get a lot of really cheap promotional candy.

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>>19518800
maybe pay your talents so they can but nipple porn

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>>19518800
lol what is this shit lmao, NijiJP literally shits a fuckton of shit, cheap merch, that's how the ''merch cope'' whenever there's an argument of Hololive and Nijisanji

and it came all the way back when Holo was just starting to get recognized, globally and in JP, JP4.

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>>19518800

>cheap shitty

not as cheap as niji jp chuubas getting literally the same birthday merch every single time

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>>19518800
I mean Niji's birthday merch is inferior to VSPO even.

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>>19518664
Agree and go back playing apex for numbers. Though his watch time will be insane, I think he is the biggest vtuber in watched hours given he maintains high ccv and long streaming time.

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c'mon Mori get 20k before the overlap starts

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>>19518370
The concert will be archived to members only after. Will that bump up the number?

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>>19519109
wait, what?

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>>19519050
Mori is a multi-millionaire who travels the world and stays in expensive hotels. Oh but she's totally single, don't worry.

She hardly even has a reason to stream these days because she's headed towards $100 million in the bank.

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>>19519050
Is it because Gura already stole the hype? But consider Gura's skills, her viewers will likely drop a lot if she don't grind enough off-screen.

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>>19519109
Wait whaaaaat.
That's unusual but okay then.
Still gonna put the upper expectation at 60k, but it's definitely going to do better than the 39kish peak she got for her b-day live.

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>>19519109
wut?

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>>19518994
VSPO is on the rise. Niji females are a relic of a bygone era. VSPO is important since they're moving up in the world and making names for themselves. Niji females are important because they're in history books.

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>>19518261
>>19518325
Oh, so there's no extra EN cull. Good to know.

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Noctyx numbers today

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>>19519285
what went wrong?

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>>19518370
70k minimum
Screencap this!

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>>19519176
wtf is this answer lmao

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>>19519314
They're playing games instead of pandering to fujos.

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>>19519330
I'll give them a week before they buy alarm clocks and wake up to make money.

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Ninjien nendo where

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>>19518952
>One excitable child noted that he loved Nijisanji because he could get a lot of really cheap promotional candy.
Kek this is your average nijinipples

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>>19519318
The numbers thread doesn't quite understand that very few vtubers even have 1,000 CCV. And that 1,000 CCV is enough to live entirely on streaming. If you have anything above 1,000 CCV, you are making serious money. Millions.

Mori, in fact ALL of the hololive talents, are millionaires. This company has been inflated so much by you fuckers that the talents at hololive don't even need to stream anymore because they're so wealthy. You're just pouring money into this company. Completely saturating this one particular company. For seemingly no reason. I think it's retarded.

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>>19519478
So... You're saying that you're a stealth shill and we should watch other companies to balance it out?

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>>19519478
Oh you are the Finana guy I get it now

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>>19519478
>Completely saturating this one particular company. For seemingly no reason.
I have limited time and watch my favorites, which happen to be in hololive, understando?

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>>19519478
You've heard of nijiniggers, now I present to you Nijibeggars

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>>19519478
t. Indietuber

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>>19519109
Is she actually doing that?

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>>19519478

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>>19519556
I'm giving you a bit of perspective. And I'm explaining why I think you're retarded. I don't know why you obsess so much about numbers. Why you completely refuse to even look at other vtubers, and instead tribalistically worship Yagoo's boots.

I personally think that hololive has a very large shilling operation. And they employ techniques, such as tribalism and numberfagging, in order to maintain their monopoly over you.

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>>19518729
Sorry King

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>>19519478
People have calculated that Miko only makes $60kish a month in Youtube revenue. She doesn't get many sponsors and merch isn't that big of a deal so it is very likely she isn't a millionaire and she is a top Holo.

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>>19519478
>>19519659

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>>19519285
That's going in the nijien tally later

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>>19519285
So these are normal NA numbers without the Chinese fujos? I’m gonna be sad when they sell their souls and start pandering hard to the fujos.

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>>19519640
>>19519234
>>19519172
>>19519201
I don't see anything on twitter so until he provides a source assume he's spouting bullshit

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>>19519659
>>19519478

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NOT TODAY SILVER BOY

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>19519659
Oh you're the faggot with the delusion that 90% of the Holofans on this board are shills

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>>19519285
Why are you guys looking down on us?
Do we look like a flop?

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>>19519675
What are your sources?

Also....

>Only 60k a month
>ONLY
That is an insane amount of money

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>>19519757
Not me, I respect hustle and will be glad when they eat at the buffet. Maybe it's because I don't watch Nijisanji anything that I want all of them to go as hard as possible to make money.

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>>19519757
Their waiting room recovery is still unusually fast, less than a minute in some cases.

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>>19519314
Streaming in EN hours and not pandering to Fujo. Luxiem didn't do much better (they did do better, granted, but the gap isn't as big as it's nowadays) when they just started out and streamed in EN hours without fujo pandering either. See picrel for example. No wonder Mysta and Vox quickly moved to Asian hour almost fulltime, and Noctyx's numbers will be better once they follow their senpais' path too. Otherwise, it will probably take a bit longer for their numbers to rise (still better than NijiEN Females, though)

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>>19519811
>Rejected Arknights character
>light novel rival character
>discount Dante
>Player 1
>Player 2

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>>19519824
Yea....
That's on top of the merch, sponsorships, etc they get.
Also the figure was a lower-bound, and it used a more conservative estimate for membership numbers.

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>>19519878
They will be better at the expense of Luxiem's numbers in that time slot.

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>>19519805
wasn't somebody claiming in this thread people came to /#/ to shill for the nijiboys God the tribalists on this board are either unhinged or mentally retarded

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>>19519903
It's telling that the first one is the only passable design, and that's being generous.

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>>19518952
Oh no no no Holokeks
Where's your Hero of the Children now?

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>KING
>Can't even beat the wrigger of Japan
What went wrong guys?

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>Kronii continuing the 2 kusoges she ladt llayed on jabuary
Man she really is the time wqrden draggin these debuffs for sonfucking long

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>>19519478
>The numbers thread doesn't quite understand that very few vtubers even have 1,000 CCV.
Everybody ITT knows this. This thread focuses on "the big leagues" so they have no reason to care about the odd 500 chuubas to have a four digit CCV when most people wouldn't even recognize them if you post their likeness anywhere on the Internet unless you were cultured or a dedicated fan.

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>>19519804
Eh, king will inline further, especially as Mori's gonna be overlapped soon, but RBC is gonna take gold anyway

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>>19519659
>Why you completely refuse to even look at other vtubers
I don't refuse I have checked out chuubas from all over

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Mori 20k get

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>>19519993
1pm on a workday for Japan

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>>19519675
Really hard to say considering the demographic and category. Gaming streams pay more especially if you're in a first world cunt. Less if 3rd world. Cpuld be less or could be more. In the end, we're all schizos making up fantasy numbers. But I'm all for it kek.

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20k get for Mori. Now the question is can IRyS hit 10k while overlapping with her?

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>>19519958
>muh tribal

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>>19519839
So still separate fanbase than EN girls that hasn't been culled (yet)

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>>19520122
jp is a mistake

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>>19519285
>>19519314
>>19519757
>>19519811
>Selen numbers
>Bad

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>>19520167
This is debut week they are bad in comparision

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>>19519199
You say that like you think there will be a lot of Elden Ring streams from Gura.

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>>19519839
So even without the fujos, noctyx still has separate fanbase than EN girls that hasn't been culled (yet)

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King KNEELS to the nigger of nippon

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>>19519478
OH NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

NIJINIGGERS ARE NOW NIJIBEGGARS

OH BNO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>>19519824
>9 million channel views a month
>$25k-$40k in SCs
>about 15k members according to her last members only VOD
>$10k~ from twitch
Probably only $60k after Cover's take.

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>>19520094
>can IRyS hit 10k while overlapping with her?
No, she's going to spend 1hr+ on the character creation part and then die a lot afterwards.

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>>19519285
Hold on I need to grudgepost
>>18926416
>Just because HoloID girls are competitive with NijiEN girls it doesn’t mean ID girls can be competitive with NijiEN boys at all.
betcha feel real stupid now don't ya?

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>>19520006
In a sense I do like when a vtuber actually finish a game they started instead of leaving it hanging with no explanation, but yeah it's bad for numbers

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>>19520363
That is what Mori literally did to reach 20k LMAO

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>>19520302
Literal 2 view numbers kek
xQc gets more than that per hour

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>>19519478
the absolute state lmao

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>>19520122
not an argument

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>>19520421
>That is what Mori literally did to reach 20k LMAO
Okay; she's going to spend 2hrs+ on the character creation screen and then die a lot afterwards.

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>>19520302
60k baseline without sponsorships and merch? Holy fuck my oshi is making bank

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>>19519478
I'm fully aware than 1k Twitch CCV puts your revenue around the 50-70k USD mark (thanks, leakers), but do we have numbers proving that's also true for YouTube? Hell, I've been using Adblock and Vanced this whole time, so I have no idea if mid-stream ads are a thing on YouTube like they are on Twitch. Twitch also has shit like bounties that cough up thousands for choosing to shill for a day, while YouTube has no such feature built in and sponsorships need to be done the old-fashioned way, which sucks royal amounts of ass for smaller streamers.

Our rough estimates say that holos make several thousands in Membership revenue per month - some of them tens of thousands - but Superchat revenue varies wildly from member to member, and we have no idea what the revenue from VoD ads is. And even all that's with blind assumptions about how much of that revenue actually ends up in the streamer's pocket vs. the corpo. Similarly, we have no idea if medium-large YouTube indies actually have decent AdSense revenue, or if that amount is so shit that Members + Superchats is everything.

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>>19520400
They are rougr likes. There is no rwason to end them for whatever shitty ending they have

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Does anyone have number for Fextralife? He embed his streams on his website and I bet his website's traffic exploded because of Elden Ring.

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>>19520449
Not a number

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>>19520554
A healthy living but not bank since it will amount to $720k~ a year. We will be able to know how much merch she can push.

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>>19520363
IRyS will probably hit 10k. She always streams for pretty long hours so she will probably catch a nice funnel when Mori ends.

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K-kronii ccv will increase right bros?

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>>19520609
You gotta remember that being in a corpo means you only get a fraction of that money compared to an indie streamer.
You go from that 70k to 24.5k as a corpo on Youtube, that's a huge cut.

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>>19519878
Crazy to look back and see Vox get 3-4k with FNAF and we were like "that was pretty good for NijiEN.
Now if he or Luxiem plays horror shit, it's almost guaranteed 10k in JP/zhang times.
He gets 7k playing runescape/zatsu nowadays.

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>>19520302
1m vod is like $3k-$4k if all viewers are jops

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>>19520878
She will hit 4-5k but yeah is debuff day for council.
Could have at least tried vampire saviors instead of TRYING TO CONTINUE A SERIES OF A ROGUELIKE SHE LAST PLAYED 2 MONTHS AGO.

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>>19520904
Because he panders during any streams.

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>>19520878
If you mention Kronii and Hades, even non numberfags knew her CCV was going to be shit.
She said her choices today were either Hollow Knight or Hades, so it was shit either way.

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>gets better numbers while silently doing coursework on stream
>decides to go back to the universal debuff pokémon game that even the males got <2k on

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>>19520878
She would have got a higher CCV if it were a chatting stream.

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IRyS basically 100% engagement in 3 minutes

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>>19519878

I mean, some of them could stream there but if too much people start to overlap it's going to be a problem too. Going from Yugo schedule for example, his streams hours are at Mysta slot or Vox. He already got pretty average numbers overlaping the two (For someone who just debuted), now imagine if there's another 3 guys besides him and Vox/Mysta. It's going to be a mess anyway

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IRyS' pool was sitting happily at ~90% participation rate after 2'.
(And the stream was 15'+ in, not 6', that was Youtube's usual display bug)

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>>19520865
>she will probably catch a nice funnel when Mori ends.
Well Irys will need to play for a long time because Mori said she's playing this for as long as she can until her meeting "tonight".
It's 1pm right now and assuming "tonight" is 6pm, that's still 5 hours.

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>>19520609
We got a leak from a Nijisanji talent that doesn't stream that much, gets little SCs, and no sponsored streams in that time period. At 530 CCV at about 10-15 hours a week and an average VOD viewcount at 10k. She made about $3.1k in a 28 day interval.

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>>19521148
I'm pretty sure IRyS has a higher % of SEA viewers...
Why does youtube hate SEAbros, bros? They don't have any issues with SEA females....

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>>19521148
I literally opened her stream (while muted), voted and left.

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>>19521148
opened stream on 10 different accounts, voted, and left

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>>19520701
Nigger that puts them in the top 0.1% of income earners in the world. What more do you want?

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>>19521229
irrelevant anedocte.

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>>19521294
$2 million a year. They are thousandaires until then.

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>>19521229
>>19521281
That's cool and all, but I'm watching and haven't voted. So fuck you faggots

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>>19521294
Number brain rot filters down to money too apparently. If that dude doesn't think that 700k a year is a giga insane amount of money than I don't know what to say. That absolutely is "making bank".

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>>19521148
That's not 100%

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>>19521371
Anon your sarcasm reps

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>>19521416
cope more
>>19521371
irrelevant faggotry

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el number anti christ #2 Kronii.... time based holos hate numbers....

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>irys at 6k playing the ultimate buff game
>kronii at less than 3k

holy shit what happened
this is a very sudden recline for holoen

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>>19521588
>Ultimate Buff game
I'm sorry, but do you mean VAMPIRE SURVIVORS?
Elden ring has got NOTHING on VS for numbers.

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>>19521430
they make more in one year than most of us will save up in our entire lives

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>>19520865
>Mori Ends
will she? people were guessing 12 hour stream.

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>>19521625
Worst bait in the thread and you still bit.
Jfc.

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>>19521588
non gura holoEN share the same 30-40k people

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>>19521213
indogs and other SEAs are notorious for kpop botting and looping behaviors

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>>19521691
HoloEN has at least 100k fanbase based of the amongus collab. Gura is only ~25% of that total.

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>>19521588
One day these girls will learn to not overlap Gura or Mori, this was an easy 10k for IRyS

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Gura's vods are looking pretty good

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>>19521148
What were the final numers for her poll?
Right now she has 6.5k views displayed for refference

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>>19521809
holo EN has a big fan base especially when properly advertised, but summing up the CCV across a mega collab like that isn't valid, since we know fans are watching multiple streams

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>>19521853
It wull help if kroni and irys had a schedule. Kroni is doing only gyerrillas and is draging a series that is 2 months old.

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>>19521108
Pokemon perms running out were the best thing that happened recently with Hololive.

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>>19521853
still going to hit 10, mori overlap is just 30%.
i wish more people overlapped Gura, EST prime is an unexplored goldmine.

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>>19521942
>2 months old.
Try 5 months lol.
2 months was the last time she streamed Hades.

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>>19521901
Youtube's Dec. 2020 changes made it so 1 device/account = 1 view, even with things like Holodex or using he same account across more than one device. Snapshots of CCV to sum are fair, taking sum of peaks (when those peaks don't happen all at the same time) is flawed.

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>>19521901
and you will only count on one of them

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>>19521894
1 min: 3123
2 min: 3905
3 min: 4634
4 min: 5419
5 min: 6028
10 min: 8191
15 min: 10265
poll ended right at 15 min mark

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Q 7M 28 days 2 hrs 32 min
Faster than REFLECT

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>>19521890
Wish she can stream longer, Kuzuha has 800K+ VOD with 10 hrs streams.

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>>19522005
>unexplored goldmine
Not really worth it if people will always prioritize Gura

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>>19522005
IRyS won't get 10k unless Mori ends her game.

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>>19522028
>>19522036
Nah, there's still some fuckery going on where a viewer can still count for multiple streams at once. I don't have visibility into the black box, but this is pretty evident if you look at song release streams overlapping with the actual song release, or the niji debut main stream & actual stream stuff.

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>>19521942
>2 months old
Kronii's last Hades stream was 2 months ago
But this series is almost 6 months old for her.

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>>19522083
Oh my...They're gonna beat Laplus's "God alike" soon...

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>>19522083
It's a fun song. You can listen to it while lifting.

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>>19522081
Nice numbers, thanks anon.

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>>19522223
only because they dont train their audience to watch at that time.

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>>19521942
Kronii had potential to be the #2 of EN behind Gura but she debuffs herself so hard constantly. To be fair Gura debuffs herself hard too but her overwhelming popularity makes up for it. If Gura was just a tiny big more ambitious she could rule the entire vtuber world uncontested but gotta live by the debuffs.

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>>19522236
> no data
> "Bro trust me"
How new are you?

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>>19522083
ohg shit they can beat kuzuhas king 10m record

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>>19522083
Jesus, thats insane

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>>19522370
Example: >>/vt/thread/S19230199#p19233706

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>>19522345
Kronii doesn't want to lead Council.
The other councils need to beat Kronii number, then she might be motivated to try.

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>>19522005
Bae overlapped Gura a lot during the last month. She got pretty good numbers while doing it too.

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>>19522236
You need proof to back up your delusions. There are multiple stream graphs showing viewers tabbing into another stream and you see the dip on the 1st stream and the rise on the 2nd 1:1.

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>>19522345
yeah, only Kronii's core die hards are going to watch this stream. The casuals are going to watch one of the two Elder Ring streams.

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>>19522470
Mumei became the leader by default.
Bae, while she is ambitious, is not a leader.

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>>19522083
Gotta say the MV buff is real, REFLECT has more views from different platforms.
( But yeah YT won't count further views even if you actually repeat Q more.)

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1499605415302025216
CYBERPUNK 2077 ARC INCOMING

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>>19522462
> 2022 newfag
Holy shit, lurk more.
> I think it's impossible for Chloe to get 5k within a minute
Bro, fucking minecraft stream got 10k within a minute due to the switch tab mechanism.

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>>19522083
The power of BoneBros with a good MV. It has some real staying power.

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>>19522622
HE LIVES!!!

Only true OGs will know what this is

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meanwhile irys new song stuck in the 100k range haha...

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>>19522605
she took it recently, taking the lead on directing the MV, and the 6month collab, almost a hostile take over and Council desperately needs it.

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>>19522622
Yo! Elder ring bros!

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>>19522605
Kronii still wins in a lot of metrics. Good efforts, but Mumei needs to try harder.

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>>19522700
FlopRyS...

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>>19522700
Asian voice doesn't sound natural in English.

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>>19522740
Mumei is heavily limited by being in her last year of college. In her post-vacation stream she said that "her shackles will be removed soon".

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>>19522622
wasn't cyberpunk banned by management?

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>>19522884
not anymore appearently

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>>19522884
It was banned because the game was an unplayable buggy mess. Miko was actually set to play it as seen by >>19522689 , that is her character.

Apparently the new update fixed the game.

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>>19522605
>Mumei became the leader by default.
>Bae, while she is ambitious, is not a leader.
Bae is still the team leader by default.
But numbers wise if Kronii keeps going like this then Mumei will become Council number's leader, but not yet.

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>>19522632
The point is that although the MV stream got to 8.5k (from 0), the main stream only decreased from 14.5k to 11.5k, for a net sudden gain of 5k. That looks fishy.

Maybe there's a delay before YT discounts a a viewer from CCV, I dunno.

But then does that mean the niji debut main stream + actual debut stream are all unique viewers?

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>>19522882
I can't wait hopefully she goes all out, did she say she was working on another song also or was that someone else?

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>>19522707
You know they rotate right? Mumei hosting the collab and making decisions on the MV doesn't mean she's the leader. It just means that it was her turn that time.

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>>19522988
Kronii not debuffing herself is the clear numbers leader of Council and is probably #2 in all of EN behind only Gura of course. Problem is we rarely see non debuffed Kronii, lol

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>>19522966
an unplayble buggy mess that could occasionally show a dick on screen and play copyrighted music, yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>IRyS 8k

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>>19523130
>we rarely see non debuffed Kronii
This I agree lol.

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>>19523076
It's not fishy. Singing and chatting streams have different audience, especially in Hololive.
And yea, NijiEN debut got the NijiJP tourist numbers.

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>>19523234
>>19523130
at this point she cant go back to buffed again.

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>>19522605
This but when Mumei surpass Bae's total VOD numbers at least.

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>>19523140
Not bad considering most of the casuals probably filtered into Mori's stream because she actually knows how to play the game and started first.

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>>19522083
"Q" Faster than "King"?

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Sonny got the monetization? talk about it....

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>>19523387
what are the numbers?

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>>19523326
Total views for reference

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>>19523501
lol Sana

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>>19523498

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>>19523584
Waste of a spot.
She might as well replace omega with how frequent she streams.

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>>19523347
"Not yet" because the milestone gap becomes closer.

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>>19523647
Uki got 3k earlier tho

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>Accelerate
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1499610591953969153

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>>19523647
Do they not make a big show about monetization stream or are the wallets already dried up?

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>>19523322
Yeah I think she has more or less killed her numbers permanently. All the puzzle games and dungeon crawlers she plays are just not number getters.

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>>19523799
Can't wait to see Pomu's and Finana's comments on this.

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>>19523799
Disgusting

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>>19523826
They did not pander to the fujos and yumejos

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>>19523799
what the fuck

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>>19523799
lmaooooooo

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>>19523826
NijiEN is not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

Noctyx update

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>>19523799
What was that all about the family being "complete"?

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>>19519958
Both anon. Numberfagging is unwelcome in the generals but here, it is encouraged. This is the numberfag containment thread.

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>>19523314
It will be interesting to see how Uki's Karaoke will turn out. His Deja vu MV blew up and has already passed Enna's "Wish of the Songbird." Can't say EN gold for it tho but if gets Shu or Ike's karaoke numbers hopefully it leads to an incline.

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>>19524052
Even if you add Yugo's earlier stream, none of them beat Kiara, the lowest HoloEN today.

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>>19523799
So Finana didn't know shit when she said she thought they wouldn't add anyone for a while.

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>>19523799
>the comments
>People actually love this shit
Now I understand when one of the homos said something like ''we aren't gacha characters for you to pull''

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>>19523799
Sorry Noctyx, no time to try and grab and audience despite your slow start. WE MUST ACCELERATE!!

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>>19524231
Operative word being "thought"

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>>19524241
By the end of this year NijiEN will be like NijiJP where it's unreasonable to keep up with all of them so the shitters are going to be forgotten.

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>>19523799
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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>>19524180
Are you chinese?

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>>19523799

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>>19523872
Nah, she got 12k for fucking House Flipper. She can easily recover with shit people want to see like Minecraft.

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>>19523799

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>>19524303
valentine day stream where all the GFE delusionals were waiting for a drop of that sweet milk, obvious buff.

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>>19523799

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>>19523799

*sigh*
And no sign of HoloEN Gen 3 yet...

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>>19523799
hope it's just vsingers...

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>>19524440
It's how you get hilarious scenarios where Kuzuha has more viewers than 10 Nijis combined.

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>>19524440
The sad part is, they see this as a positive thing.
>>19524458
Judging by timelines, wave 6 will debut around the time of Gen 3 unless they rush out wave 6.

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>>19524303
>>19524370
12k is a neutral number for Kronii since her zatsu is around 7k (last zatsu was 10k). 15k+ would be a buff stream.

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>>19523799
What a fucking joke.

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>>19524458
Good. It is giving Council room to grow and certain members like Bae, Mumei, and Fauna are inclining quite nicely.

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>>19524458
6 more months

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>>19524303
That was a valentines stream and it was a return to her streaming. She'll never get that again. You're better of just waiting for her birthday.

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>>19524553
They're really starting to find themselves recently. I pray that Kronii gets her shit together before Gen 3.

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>>19524497
>10 Nijis combined.
try 15

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>>19524440
The fact that this is viewed as a good thing is insane

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problem with Kronii and these long arc games is she spreads the playthroughs out over such a long period and so sporadically, took her months to finish Frostpunk. Meanwhile JPs will binge a fucking game over a couple of weeks with long streams to hammer them out before moving on because they probably realize coming back to games in progress over months just isnt good business.

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>>19523799
>What? Noctyx Flopped?
Time to push new waves!

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>>19524636
Is Kronii still taking/working on non-Hololive commissions? I doubt she could focus on her Hololive career if her attention is divided.

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>>19524521
then its proof shes reclining, because valentine day stream is supposed to be a buff no matter what.

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>>19524770
None that I recall, she has the classic case of being "cripplingly depressed".

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>>19523799
LOL
LMAO

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>>19523799
50 NIJIENS BY 2023

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>>19523799
Riku: Sorry KR and ID, we don't have much money so you're being folded into the main branch.
Also Riku: PUSH OUT 20 EN BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

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>>19524231
She didn't say anything with confirmation, she just made a theory
>>19524294
Good job, you finally understand how nijisanji or any agencies works anon: you dont follow everyone or sub to everyone

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>>19525199
That's a retarded comparison and you know it. KR and ID aren't comparable to EN when EN is actually competing against JP in numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm so fucking mad
loads of entertaining and talented girls snagged by a company who overworks and doesn't give a fuck about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19523799
holy damn

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>>19524894
ESL here, what is cripplingly depressed?

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>>19524754
DESU this is a problem across most of holo EN. They're taking "variety streamer" too far, and not establishing a balanced schedule that includes a mainstay game that they play at least weekly until completion.

>>19524869
Wasn't there a bunch of overlap on valentine's day?

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>>19525199
After seeing Luxiem's SC numbers and how they broke records set by NijiJP, they would be retarded to not push out more waves.
Vox is worth more and has made Anycolor more money than everyone in NijiID and NijiKR combined.

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>>19525389
what's worst, is that they don't even have time to shine...

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>>19525462
Depression is a mental illness where you have low mood and you feel like shit all the time. Crippling depression is depression that makes it difficult to function in normal life.

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>>19525485
> NijiEN is 20 Vox

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>>19525470
even twitch variety streamers tend to stick with games til either bored or completion but most never for more than a couple weeks to a month

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>>19525389
What can I say, you get what you signed up for

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>>19525605
they don't care, it's worth if there are at leas 5 vox in 50 chubbas

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>>19525605
I mean, if they didn't push out 4 waves in less than a year they wouldn't get vox, luca, shu and the many others that are big merch and sc spending

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>>19525389
any female who joins Nijisanji are fated to be accesories

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>>19525485
Seeing the performance of Noctyx shows that this is unique to Vox and isn't filtering down to the rest of the branch.

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>>19525605
It's similar to how every agency was trying to find their own Gura. Now Nijisanji wants to find the next Vox.

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>>19525691
It makes sense for the company, I guess, but harsh on 90% of the talent

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>>19525389
If you're a talented female EN streamer and you want to be a vtuber, you'd be a total idiot not to try for Hololive as hard as you can first.

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>>19518042
Sans Undertale

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>>19525748
Why do you think they settled for less?

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>>19525485
we thank you for your hard work over the years now please quietly join the pile so we can focus on the new superior branch

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>>19525389
They signed up knowing this would happen (granted Hololive didn't have an open audition system before Luxiem).

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>>19525908
They couldn't beat Gura.

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>>19525748
I really feel bad for Selen

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>>19525925
they really didnt

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>>19525462
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag

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>>19525748
Well yeah, obviously Hololive would be vastly preferable to Niji if you are a female, but Hololive positions are obviously a premium and don't come around too often. Niji is a good alternative if you can't get into Holo. Probably better than any of the smaller EN orgs.

Makes the wasted spot by Sana all the more annoying, lol.

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>>19525925
I wonder how many of them joined expecting to get Holo tier numbers, and if Ethyria's low numbers is causing future female applicants to consider just staying as an Indie if they couldn't make it into Hololive

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>>19526101
Can you really call it wasted when Sana does free artwork for the company? The Half Anniversary stuff was all her

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>>19525908
They just didn't pass the auditions, It's as simple as that. They're welcome to try again though I mean look at Ollie.

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>>19526165
If they expected Holo tier numbers they're literally retarded. It's the stagnation or slow decline that really hurts to see especially when the girls put 5x as much work in as HoloEN

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>>19523799
>spamming debuts like it's a human wave attack
Why is Nijisanji like this?

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>>19526018
Why? She's never passing hololive auditions

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>>19526312
riku is putin

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>>19526354
isn't that a chink tactic?

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>>19526183
She can do that without taking up a slot; Hololive's girls should be more than free labor
better yet, hire a few more girls (not at Nijis pace though) to make up for HoloEN's lack of actual streamers

[Anonymous No.]

holokike diversion thread

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>>19525605
They have always used the shotgun approach and livers have a low cost to manage so they don't care.
If they can find 1 Vox/Gura in 20 livers, it'll be worth it.

Ike and Luca make bank too so it's not just Vox.

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>>19526305
5x more work doesn't mean 5x more quality.
If they are extremely entertaining and talented, then the numbers will follow.

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>>19522882
hopefully she drags Kronii along with her so she could be motivated since Kronii won't be alone in mogging the rest of council which i assume is what Kronii doesn't want.

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>>19526183
Oh yeah, definitely worth it having Sana drawing these. They couldn't have gotten anyone else to draw them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526388
Yes, and they end up eating each other at some point.

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>>19526388
It's a commie tactic. Nijisanji is a commie.

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>>19526183
Then... be an artist and not a streamer??
Ayame streamed twice as much as Sana did and she's not a 6 month old newbie that had everything handed to her on a silver platter and somehow still end up as the least subbed Holofemale

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>>19526447
Of course they could not. Not all renown artists are in HoloEN.

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>>19526447
Such stunning artwork. Surely that is worth taking up a slot.

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>>19526101
I mean, a Hololive position is guaranteed success making hundreds of thousands minimum per year. Council really feels like they were recruited to compliment Myth.
That said, Ethyria never got their premium voice packs in the end iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji is treating en branch fans like drug addicts. The chuubas have to spam constant buff and pandering streams to get their money and attention before the company brings out the new drug and they pump their shit into them while they can ad infinitum.

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>>19526430
>If they are extremely entertaining and talented, then the numbers will follow
No they won't. most of Hololive's girls were nobodies before joining. Being somewhere in the right place at the right time counts a lot more than quality

[Anonymous No.]

How is Calli's ER btw? I mainly watch Irys part but seeing Calli bleeding viewers right now (while Irys and Kronii didn't gain viewers), did she live up the hype or just viewers naturally drop the stream as it progress due to other reasons?

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>>19525389
It's fine, they're just spending some time in the HoloEN waiting room now that Manjisanji is taking full effect

[Anonymous No.]

I smell a lot of stinky frustrated women...I'm getting a boner.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kronii now Kiara-tier? What happened?

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>>19526312
Anycolor only cares about totals like they should. The additional cost of a talent isn't much.

>>19525485
Also telling how Deron joked about being told to attract gachiloi and the joke ASMR was with a deep voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526694
Pretty much the same as Gura's stream other than she's slightly more competent and didn't attack an NPC. The first camp with the big shield dudes were wrecking her when I was watching.

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>>19526312
>Banzai!!!

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>>19526769
She keeps playing debuff games and sticks to them for months

[Anonymous No.]

The financial situation in Niji must've been so bad that they need to pump more livers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526733
Hololive is never going to poach a Nijisanji talent again, too much drama will come out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19525694
That is why we need western VSPO. A home for females as long as they play apex and valorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526977
It's happened before, why do you think it can't again?

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>>19526183
if all her was shit doodles then i don't want any of that. Ina whips better shit up for a simple collab and still streams regularly.

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>>19526430
0x work means 0x quality. Better low quality than no quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526694
She loses viewers when she's roaming and gains viewers when fighting boss or NPC

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526101
NijiEN is a much better place than any small corp and even reimu can make a good life with her scs and merch. There are incentives to go to there if you couldn't or dont want to go to holo

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>>19526645
If you are not prepared then you are wasting your opportunity. That's on you.
NijiEN female has had minor viral moments, but it never got to anywhere.
NijiEN male has had minor viral moments, and they exploit the shit out of it.
Skill issue.

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>>19523799
So this is why Gura cancelled. She got insider news that audition is opening and she cancelled to prepare her audition video to NijiEN. Then she'll finally graduate HoloEN and be happy with her 3view status in NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526312
Why do you think we call them chinkisanji?

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>>19527010
The question that should be asked: Are Niji girls Hololive worthy?

All women are whores by default, but Holos have better wranglers keeping them in line with their relatively higher standards for content. But from there, they then need to be able to stand on their own with their entertainment skills.

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>>19526977
They don't need to poach. The resumes come by themselves.

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>>19527305
I wonder how Luna's viewership would look like if she was still in Nijisanji

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>>19527384
Sub 1k.

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>>19522345
It probably better if Kronii is the 2nd or 3rd most sub so she wont get eaten by her imposter syndrome and get pressure by having most sub in her gen lol. I still think both Kronii and Bae have the highest ceiling in council. With Bae, she showed off what she can offer more on the table last month. I hope Kronii can do it too, shes still the same this past 6 months.

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>>19527518
I'm baffled how you think Mumei doesn't have the highest ceiling when she has had by far the most impediments and still is keeping up with those two.

[Anonymous No.]

EN3 shouldn't hire any big artist, not everyone can draw as fast as Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527518
>shes still the same this past 6 months.

Fucking this. Kronii is seriously stagnating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527305
Holofags would watch YAGOO's own shit if he slapped it with the Hololive brand.
The Niji girls are too good and too talented to waste their time in Holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527628
They should really try to find some actual gamers for Gen 3. They already have enough good singers and artists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527628
EN3 should be recruited by the scouts who did Holo X.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527719
Actual gamers are not entertaining.
Having a personality is better than wash-up highlight reels.

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>>19523799
Is Riku just making another NijiJP vs HoloJP situation but in the west?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527518
Nah Bae's celling is still kinda low, only beat fauna and the no-stream.

[Anonymous No.]

I've seen akas from Vox's chat where Chinese girls requests him to say some Chinese romanji lines, despite him not understanding Chinese. I wonder if someone would aka him a Chinese sentence like "The red leader is ugly and fat/The east island is an independent country" just to get him cancelled if he ever read it. Just don't put in specifics like Xi/Taiwan/China, make it seem oblivious at first so that the chinks in his chat doesn't realize it at first glance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527916
Hmmmm

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>>19527711
Zhang are you still sperging out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527821
Bae sucks in a big collab. She's good at tag-teams, but she needs to take lessons in group dialogues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527615
I'll add moomer if that what makes you happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527916
Add in some kiss emotes, thirsty emotes so that it doesn't seem suspicious to him. If successful, he might get banned from doing requests ever again. That's minimum punishment, China would still so business with Niji despite everything. Maximum punishment would them getting banned entirely out of China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527796
maybe aqua or botan tier chuuba on en3 will be good

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527628
Yeah, I get the sense that they hired Sana as an attempt to duplicate Ina, but if the graveyard of other full-time professional illustrators who tried Vtuber debuts and then eventually stopped streaming is any indication, Ina's literally the only one capable of what she does. The realistic expectation is probably something closer to Shigure Ui showing up once in a blue moon, or Pochi alternating between bursts of activity and long absences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19527916
Hmmm, maybe I can create another YT account...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19526838
>Anycolor only cares about totals like they should. The additional cost of a talent isn't much.
Black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19525661
Retard. They're going to cannibalize their own viewer base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19528273
Black company is something like wactor. you fags might disagree with how things work in nijisanji but it's nothing in the level of a black company. In fact cover and anycolor for new startups seems to have better conditions than some of the biggest companies out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19528342
By that reasoning hololive shouldn't have more gens because they are going to canibalize their own viewer base

[Anonymous No.]

>>19528414
One year is more than enough to build up your character and to solidify your fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19528414
Its not about that. You obviously need new gens to prevent viewer fatigue. However, if you care for the talents and not just the bottom line you also need to give a fair amount of time for the fanbase to get to know the new talents and for them to find their place before you overwhelm people with "NEW SHINY THING". I think Hololive has a pretty damn good balance of doing this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19528370
Anycolor and Cover have really great retention for both talent and staff if you believe their presentations. I've had more "graduations" in my job at a fortune 500 company than Nijisanji JP has had with a group of people way smaller.

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of events can NijiEN do with a lineup of 50 chuubas by 2023? Can they even play Power Pros and do an EN tournament or make 3D event concerts like NJU/Light up tones? It doesn't seem like Management knows their vision other than to increase sales because the more they increase their lineup, the harder it is to manage events without sufficient staff to operate them. Besides that, HoloEN could operate a small office in NA or Canada to operate 3D since they are financially stable by their own in the future. NijiEN probably doesn't have enough money to even dream for that other than flying their livers to Japan once a year which adds up for 20+ EN livers and ID/KR branches. If only Luxiem gets to go to Japan, others would feel disappointed too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19525389
The real black company. Join Nijisanji where the talent is disposable. You're there for the brand and unless you're in the top % you can get fucked. They'll let you sink rather than make any attempt at helping you