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19492383 No.19492383 [Reply] [Original]

Why did she try to pass off and monetize another artist's hard work as her own? Ignorance? Laziness? Trying to live up to expectations? These may explain her actions, but they certainly don't excuse them.

I think this would set a very bad precedent if it goes unpunished. People shouldn't be exempted from having basic ethics just because they're somebody famous or associated with a popular brand.

How would you handle things if you were Yagoo and one of your talents did something like this?

>> No.19492410

>>19492383
She needs more correction

>> No.19492601

The fact that some people are defending her is disgusting. You just know those same people would be calling for a graduation if a holostar did this. I guess you can get away with anything if you put on a le ditzy kawaii act.

>> No.19492684

A numberfag will do anything to keep her numbers up even if she can't handle the pressure and meet deadlines properly.
So it's probably a mix of laziness and trying to live up to expectations
Even when she took that break due to her mental health or whatever, she made sure to do everything in her power to stay relevant

>> No.19492711

>>19492601
That's right, it's nothing burger.
But if one of the whore did it, I hope they graduate like Rushia

>> No.19493107

nipplesanji deflection thread

>> No.19497011

Because everyone does it until they get caught.

>> No.19498066

She's barely an artist, she probably thinks that no one gave a shit about referencing/tracing

>> No.19500847

>>19492383
>>19492601
>>19497011
>>19498066
>I INVENTED THIS POSE AND HUMAN ANATOMY AND YOU ARE DOING A CRIMEARINO BY LOOKING AT IT WHILE DRAWING

>> No.19501066

>>19492383
The only niggers who care about this shit are autistic artist. even the artist she traced was ok with it.

>> No.19501292

>>19492383
>People shouldn't be exempted from having basic ethics just because they're somebody famous
Nonsense. She's a poor innocent girl who didn't know it was wrong. Give her a break

>> No.19501618

>>19500847
It wasn’t referencing it was tracing. Layering it behind and directly copying the lines.

>> No.19501682

>>19492383
>Laziness
She overworks herself 26 hours a day 9 days a week it was probably
>Trying to live up to expectations
though more to her own expectations of herself than anything else, she is a daughter of doctors and yet is on a restaurant job so she has to be the best at it. So she tries to do it all by herself which fucks her mind but she can't admit it.
>I think this would set a very bad precedent if it goes unpunished.
>How would you handle things if you were Yagoo and one of your talents did something like this?
Dude, Namori forgave Nene so what is the point? She wasn't even asked to take the drawing downs which is crazy generous.
She was fucking lucky the person she traced was also a hard fan of her (Nene was one of the first Vtuber Namori ever drew) but you can't punish someone for luck.
She took a reputation hit, a hard one, and likely was talked down a lot by the manager.
If it was more serious I would dock a percentage of her pay for a while and have it go to the harmed artist.

>> No.19501804

>>19492383
>I think this would set a very bad precedent if it goes unpunished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACGyOyuMQk

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>>19492601

>> No.19502244

>>19492383
I don't care that she traced, but her stubbornness to admit it is essentially treating her fans like idiots.

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>>19492383
>same messed up corners
Stop making these threads you faggot

>> No.19502547

>>19502244
She apologized already nijisis
Move on

>> No.19502761

>>19492383
For money and popularity.
>Lol Nene can draw so well but have you seen her funny hand drawings and other doodles in her streams?
Basically to entertain and to make more money.
I'd do it too desu.

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19502770

why did he do it, nijiblacks?

>> No.19502831
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19502831

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmm

>> No.19502855

>>19502770
B-BUT

>> No.19503047

>>19502547
That's not the issue. Cover had already released a statement acknowledging the tracing. She could just say sorry and that's it, my only thought on the subject would have been "why do something so stupid?" and I probably wouldn't believe anything drawn by her in the future to be really hers. But then both her tweet and her video try imply that it wasn't really tracing, only inspiration. That's the part that really made me lose respect and trust in her.

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19503069

>>19492601
Women and children can be careless, but not men. We hold each other off to higher standards. This is nothing that a stern talking to from a man won't fix.

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>>19503047

>> No.19503174

>>19492383
>reddit spacing
kys fancuck

>> No.19503262

>>19503134
If you don't mind defending somebody who's treating you like an idiot that's fine.

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19503287

>>19503047
>she has to apologize!
>apologizes
>that's not the point!

>> No.19503314

>>19503287
>apologizes
>while trying to gloss over and minimize what she did

>> No.19503328

It's pretty sureal how of a nothingburger this is

>> No.19503348

plagiarizing is very un-idollike

>> No.19503466

>>19503328
You are the definition of retarded, she was lucky it was her friend she plagiarized from, if it where any other thing like Love Live, Tohou ect. both she and cover would have been sued up the ass for it.

>> No.19503478

>>19503314
>while trying to gloss over and minimize what she did
she did nothing really wrong, only drawniggers care about that, even profesional mangakas trace time to time

>> No.19503569

>>19503478
>only drawniggers care about that
This is just false, stop parroting it just because you read it on /vt/.
>even profesional mangakas trace time to time
And they can get in trouble for it. This very week an official illustrator for Pokemon goods had his products removed from the line-up because he was caught tracing.

>> No.19503607

Nijifags are desperate to hide their JAV yab into Nene's nothingburger

>> No.19503620

Nene did nothing wrong

>> No.19503743

>>19503287
That’s like saying “I’m sorry you feel that way” is an apology. She didn’t apologise for tracing even though Cover already confirmed it.

>> No.19503854

>>19503466
Hopefully her friendship doesn’t strain at all over the incident.

>> No.19503999

>>19503854
won't happen
nene's mom is also involved

>> No.19504097

>>19503466
There's still that im@s one, which is an official illustration for one of her songs. That one is not as blatantly traced as others though.

>> No.19504286

>>19504097
The im@s one looks more referenced than traced like some of the others, though the torso looks pretty close.
I only saw two that I can say with utmost certainty to be traced.

>> No.19504385
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19504385

>Draws in her old style
>Gets Aloe fired
>Tries to make a new style
>Almost gets herself fired
Just how powerful is Nene?

>> No.19504389

so is it fancucks, deadcucks, nijicucks, or failed artists pretending to care about this nothingburger because literally no one else does LMAO
nene is the law you dickless cucks.

>> No.19504553

>>19504389
It's japanese law cocksucker, she was lucky it wasn't anything else other than her friend she plagiarized from, otherwise Yagoo and her would have been sued out of the ass for it, especially since they already made profit off it. But I guess a Holofag wouldn't understand the basic meaning of law since their mong brain can't handle it.

>> No.19504576

>>19503743
Ok so what do you want? What would nene have to do to make it up in your mind? Graduation? Ritual suicide?

>> No.19504599

>>19504553
nene is the law, cuck.

>> No.19504684

>>19492383
Because she could easily get away with it, and I'm pretty sure they already made money off of it anyways. All they have to do is spit out a generic apology and it's back to business as usual. Welcome to the world of corpo greed.

>> No.19504754

>>19504599
Yeah keep saying that when they end up in court because Nene is too retarded to actually draw and has to become tracer.

>> No.19504760

>>19504553
Kek. Togashi traces shit and he is still under the biggest Manga magazine. Tracing isn't anything big

>> No.19504806

You'd think a board full of clipbeggars and leeches doing self-promotion in other chuuba's threads would understand the difference between stealing and being derivative, but it's just too much to expect.

>> No.19504876

>>19492383
Shame, hololive is the future

>> No.19504891

>>19504760
Togashi traces but he's smart enough to not make it completely obvious that he does, Nene is so retarded that just by looking at both pictures you can know it was traced

>> No.19505137

>>19504576
She'll always be a failure if she keeps trying to gloss over her mistakes. If that's her normal attitude when people point out she did something wrong, it honestly explains why no idol agency wanted her around.

>> No.19505252

>>19504760
Other mangaka's have had their manga put on hold or completely cancelled for tracing. Just because Togashi can get away with it, that doesn't mean it's nothing.

>> No.19505265

>>19504385
I miss her old outfit sometime. god dang Chinamen ruining stuff

>> No.19505361

>>19505137
ok dr. phil

>> No.19505528

>>19502770
He must watch those a lot.

>> No.19505783

Honestly I love Nene and consider her my oshi as far as JP goes, but this situation is a little disappointing. I liked Nene because she was such a hard worker determined to be the best idol loved around the world, but doing it by taking cheap shortcuts is pretty unfortunate.

>> No.19506590

>>19504576
The situation was resolved before his emotions were. Just give him some time to calm down.

>> No.19506637

>>19492601
ok iofi, now draw better

>> No.19510506

>>19492383
Tracing is bad

>> No.19511494

>>19492383
slavering dramafags dwell in the void of context feeding on the unfortunate scraps that fall therein.

>> No.19511612

Why is everything hitting the fan so hard this year, I'm still recovering from the Rushia yab

>> No.19511815

>>19511612
this is not the fan literally no one cares

>> No.19511914

>>19511815
>literally no one cares
If no one cares why are people constantly saying that no one cares?

>> No.19512319
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>>19505783
Same here, but people disappoint from time to time. It's what we're all good at. We all have unsavory and embarrassing shit we don't want others to know about. She got caught cutting corners on her art and now has to suffer that blow to her pride, but it doesn't mean she still wasn't working hard. People's judgement will waver when they find themselves in desperate situations. I'm assuming her situation was intense deadline pressure given all the other shit she has going on. I remember the intense shame of getting caught stealing money out of my friend's wallet when I was desperate for money. I've never so much as stolen a penny since.

>> No.19512401

>>19501066
>even the artist she traced was ok with it
Proof? Oh wait you literally have none.

>> No.19512447

>>19501066
Exactly, we should tell Nene to keep tracing. Fuck the haters, she should trace more!

>> No.19512459

>>19501682
>Dude, Namori forgave Nene
Proof? Oh wait you literally have jack fucking shit.

>> No.19512677

>>19502770
He did nothing wrong though. Piracy is not theft.

>> No.19512772

>>19512677
Tell that to the courts poorfag.

>> No.19512821

>>19502770
Don't forget the new blonde NijiEN that faked his death to Valve, yeah this is def a deflection thread

>> No.19512822

What if she didn't draw/trace it herself and she actually hired or asked a favor from someone else she knew who isn't that well known? So Nene just apologizes so no one finds out, plus maybe the artist is trackable irl and Nene didn't want to risk get doxed through said person.

>> No.19512953

>>19512822
But then she was still lying about claiming she drew it herself.

>> No.19512966

>>19492383
It’s a good thing nijiEN isn’t big enough to have dedicated antis. Otherwise they would be all over that cop motherfucker for faking his death.

>> No.19513094

>>19512966
But there is already a thread up for that too.
Admitting when someone does something wrong does not make you an anti. This isn't like the absolutely fucking stupid Miko doujinshi kerfuffle, nenechi was in the wrong here which is quite a shock since she seems so innocent.

>> No.19513128

>>19512953
I know, I'm just trying to think of reasons why asked by OP.

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>> No.19513392

The autists in this thread screaming for seppuku after everyone else already has acknowledged the apology and moved on are like the fat fucks on TikTok calling people wanting to lose weight fatphobes.
Fuck outta here

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19513419

>>19512401
>>19512459
Not that anon, but Namori immediately liked both Nene's and Cover's apologies after the tweeted them and that's about as far as she publicly wants to address it, it seems. That at least indicates she's already moving on. On the other hand, she could be secretly stewing with absolute art-tard rage right now over that talentless stealing seal bitch and thinking of ways to make her pay while she tweets about enjoying bath bombs and rum raisin ice cream.

>> No.19513436

>>19512772
Legal in my country :)

>> No.19513461

>>19492383
She's a vtuber, and thus has the mind of a child by default.

>> No.19513586

>>19513461
This is Nene we're talking about

>> No.19513592

>>19492383
so nene can steal art and sell it for profit but rushia can't have a bf lika a normal woman?

>> No.19513610

>>19492383
What are you gonna do, tell on Korekore in broken Japanese?

>> No.19513619

>>19503047
>why do something so stupid
>nene

>> No.19513668

>>19513619
Exactly my point, it wouldn't really have changed how I see her.

>> No.19513720

>>19513461
That isn't true for all Vtubers but I believe it for Nene.

>> No.19513852
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19513852

Also she drew the mat for the birthday goods so I'm pretty sure she got over this shit a lot faster than the 2-follower deviant art rejects that are sperging here

>> No.19513880

>>19513668
For the record, I have looked at drawings and drawn them line for line without tracing. Didn't claim them as my own work but copying something doesn't equate to tracing, still lazy and bullshit to present as your own work, but not blatantly drawing over someone elses stuff

>> No.19513925

>>19511914
because no life trolls and iofi's ten paypigs are pretending to care

>> No.19513945

https://files.catbox.moe/b0wboa.mp4

This Nene did something dum?

>> No.19514028

>>19513925
We should tell Nene to fight back against the trolls by tracing more!

>> No.19514107

>>19492383
>Why
My wife is incredibly retarded and depressed. Please forgive her

>> No.19514183

>>19513945
Stop doxxing me

>> No.19514210

>>19513945
Yeah but this is the first time it wasn't air-headed and good natured dumb.

>> No.19514318

>>19514210
DUM IS DUM
At least this way you know she's not acting because it's cute and is actually challenged.

>> No.19514348

> /vt/ when rushia has a bf
> i hope she dies
> /vt/ when nene literally steals someone's hard work and sells for profit
> i sleep, cute seal did nothing wrong

>> No.19514410

>>19514348
>/vt/ any time of the day
>omg vtsisters have you seen this??

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19514494

>hahahahahaha what a stupid bitch hahahahaa

Wtf why did haachama say that

>> No.19514548

>>19514348
Nene is the law.
She is the moral compass and her actions dictate what is correct

>> No.19514618

>>19492383
>trying to make something out of nothing
just go back to your rushia threads already fucking dramanigs

>> No.19514639

>actually make an apologize
>Both video and written
>Her corp also make an apologize and punishment to nene
>/vt/ nigger and nipplesanji can't sit tight because they are retarded

>> No.19514892

>>19504553
>Sued
Lol, the reason why artfags are so adamant about tracing is because by law, it is transformative enough to be considered a derivative work.
Name one case where tracing poses resulted in a successful lawsuit, you can't because there isn't one.

>> No.19514961

>>19513436
Kys ESL

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>>19514548
Nene apologized though so it means what she did must have been wrong according to NeneGod.

>> No.19515009

>>19492383
She needs to be spanked

>> No.19515017

>>19514348
See >>19501972

>> No.19515022

>>19514961
No :)

>> No.19515035 [SPOILER] 

>>19492711
nobody deserves that, not even rushia.
well, maybe a few members of holo ch did but the two taiwanese members definitely didn't.

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19515043

>>19514892
>citing US copyright law in for things in Japan

>> No.19515074

>>19513925
Come on now. She doesn't have that many.

>> No.19515095

>>19492711
Rushia didn't graduate she was terminated, fired.

>> No.19515101

Damn... I never knew her fans were on this much copium before, kinda sad.

>> No.19515163

She just got "too" inspired and forgot she is supposed to be using it for her own works. She got busted, artist forgives her after she publically apologized.

Nene at least is someone genuinely nice. Anyone wishing the worst for her is just a dramawhore wanting their next splooge

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>>19513852
I swear the signs all point to this being originally noticed months ago by Cover/Namori and addressed with Nene completely in private in hopes of minimizing the damage to everyone. Literally the artist she plagiarized drawing special goods for her announced the day before it became public. No fucking way she didn't know long before. It would be nice to hear from Namori just to clear the air, but if she wanted it settled in private in the first place I doubt she would.

>> No.19515255

>>19492383
Nooooooooo! I actually like Nene. Please don't graduate.

>> No.19515332

>>19513419
>Namori likes Nene a lot
>Probably bought Nene merch and saw the drawings
>Nothing happens because Namori is a talented artist, and tracing her pervious works doesn't do jack to affect her income
>Continues to support Nene
>Dramafag twitter harness Nene on her behalf

I imagine Namori is doing her best to calm and reassure Nene. She is probably wanting to tell that twitterfag off, but not wanting to draw attention to the matter. So yes, she is seething in hatred and there is nothing she can do about it

>> No.19515340

>>19492383
Yagoo already doing it. It's all over twitter. It's ur fault you cant read it, cant blame nijinigger

>> No.19515341

>>19515216
Well Namori liked the apology tweets so that's something at least while keeping it private.

>> No.19515394

>>19492383
And ? They already did apologize and punish nene for it. What else do u want ? Force nene to watch nipple pirated porn ?

>> No.19515419

>>19513852
This was before the revelation cucksimp. Nice job conveniently cropping out the date too.

>> No.19515440

>>19515043
Alright, name one Japanese case then

>> No.19515447

>>19492383
stfu yopi jeez

>> No.19515480

>>19515163
>artist forgives her after she publically apologized
Literall did not happen. Silence isn't forgiveness.

>> No.19515485

>>19515216
Namori already aware of this, also namoriare bussy unlike sana's roommate who keep shitposting chink gacha fames

>> No.19515581

>>19515480
Respond to their apologize with like is called silence ? What do u want ? Made a video and jump into drama with twitt ? Not everything need to be posted on public, nigger. This is not like how u post ur mom's porn in ph

>> No.19515673

>>19515581
>liking the apology
She feels vindicated that the scum was called out for her dishonesty. It doesn't invalidate what Nene did you cucksimp.

>> No.19515806

>>19515673
Namori can sue her for that and throw tantrum on Twitter about but no. Why ? Because they are adult, clear everything behind scene. Unlike u dramanigger who needs everyone to notice u for being a drama queen

>> No.19515918

>>19515163
She’s not a professional artist. I didn’t even know what tracing meant until this happened and probably she also didn’t. She just made a mistake. People going after her unironically are petty pieces of shit and deserve the rope.

>> No.19515932

>>19492383
If I was Yagoo I would not care what mentally deranged retards on /vt/ or twitter have to say about any of my talents.

>> No.19515958

>>19515806
Learn to English seanigger. You sound like you have trash in your mouth.

>> No.19516051

>>19515918
Making a mistake implies that it was accidental. This is her intentionally passing off someone else' work as her own and trying to profit from it. It's a scummy move through and through and anyone defending this is nothing but a cuck and a simp.

>> No.19516320

>>19516051
You’re absolutely insane. You talk like what she did was blatantly steal someone else draw and say she made it. She took a drawing and made it her own. She didn’t know the implications of that. She probably thought that was equivalent to referencing or something. Legality aside having no compassion over someone making a dumb mistake is subhuman behavior.
Please take meds.

>> No.19516335

>>19515918
As long as she knows what she did was wrong and tries to improve her own style, I'm fine with it.

>> No.19516395

>>19513436
>>19515022
>Pinoy "education"

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Namori mentioning the CD jacket we know Nene traced from her back in 2021.
They seem weirdly cheeky about this conversation and mention the CD jacket a lot. It's weird.

>> No.19516436

>>19516320
>She didn’t know the implications of that. She probably thought that was equivalent to referencing or something
Cuck simp making excuses for scummy behavior? Cuck simp move through and through. Tell me the last time "I didn't know it was wrong" could fly as an excuse.

>> No.19516456

>>19516335
Exactly. Now she knows and she won’t do it again. Wanting to destroy someone’s life over a honest mistake like this is disgusting, more so the person making the mistake is nene who is a very well known kind, retarded and depressed girl.

>> No.19516462

>>19492383
>Why the dumb girl did this dumb action?
same as everyone that got caught tracing, they never anticipated getting caught
and why they didnt?
>They are dumb

>> No.19516528

>>19516411
The truth is that for each art she traced Nene had to deliver erotic ASMR audios to Namori. Since that would be a NDA breach she would rather be tracer.

>> No.19516573

>>19516436
>Tell me the last time "I didn't know it was wrong" could fly as an excuse.
A lot of times actually. See, people are not as unhinged as you and can feel compassion over younger people making mistakes. Get meds.

>> No.19516576

>>19516456
>very well known kind, retarded and depressed girl
Do you really beliebe cuck simp?

>> No.19516622

>>19516456
The last part is why I'm more open to giving her the benefit of the doubt. Nene has NOT had it easy mentally and the depression could easily make someone lose track.

At least after the Rushia incident hopefully Fubuki/Mio are keeping much closer eyes on things and will jump in to make sure things don't spiral.

>> No.19516676

>>19514892
>Lol, the reason why artfags are so adamant about tracing is because by law, it is transformative enough to be considered a derivative work
To Japanese law, whether you traced, copied, referenced or were just inspired can't be a deciding factor on whether it's an infringement of copyright or not. What matters is whether your work is considered distinct enough, which is ultimately up for the judge to decide.

>> No.19516705

>>19516573
No compassion for dishonest scum. Only cuck simps are defending this.

>> No.19516890

>>19492383
i don't understand. She was the one how drew it? i thought that she paid for the job

>> No.19516933

>>19516622
She’s friends with the artist she referenced and it was pretty much her drawings only. It’s so evident she tried to replicate those drawings stubbornly because she likes the artist and the style that believing she did wrong on purpose is schizo grade ratt.

>> No.19517230

>>19516411
This and the fact Rushia's artist made a comment then deleted later makes me think Namori somehow provided or encouraged Nene through the process, or there was some massive miscommunication.

>> No.19517312

>>19503047
>she didn't apologize!
>yes she did
> GOD THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE!!!!

>> No.19517624

>>19517312
Apologizing for causing a ruckus and admitting you traced are completely different things. She still tried to pass it off as just reference in her video, even after apologizing.

>> No.19517826

>>19517624
>Nene doesn't know the difference between tracing and reference
I'd buy that rrat, makes her seem cuter.

>> No.19518001

>>19517826
She really just likes to draw over an existing image. Look at her autograph streams, she's not a pro artist so she just trace over existing things. She means no harm from it.

>> No.19518226

Nene's just being ambitious and using her entrepreneurial spirit to make more money to support all of her husbands.

>> No.19518341

So is the erotic ASMR rrat true? That may be enough to get Nene terminated.

>> No.19518359

>>19517826
That's fine, that's up for each person to take however they want, the tracing itself is indeed a nothingburger anyway, even if I don't buy for a second that she doesn't know what she's saying. It just rubbed me off the wrong the wrong way how she insisted on denying it even after the statement by Cover was out and some of the images made it obvious there was some tracing involved. It just looks like she's lying to her fans to protect some petty pride.

>> No.19518420

>>19518226
NenePro is a black company...

>> No.19518574

>>19518420
Nenebear can't bring food for her husbands without breaking a few picanic baskets

>> No.19518931

>>19517624
Post your deviantart. I know you have one.

>> No.19518949

sorry nippleburgers this is a nothingburger

>> No.19519175

I honestly just assumed that Namori found out, was disappointed and to make up for it Nene commissioned Namori for her bday goods to either pay Namori off or out of kindness (I think Nene is kind, sue me)

>> No.19519507

>>19492383
I've never bought a single one of the many porn games I've pirated from your retarded island, jap.

>> No.19519570

>>19518931
I couldn't even draw a stick figure to save my life you paranoid fuck. I already said I don't give a shit about the tracing, if anything I think her drawings are cute and if Namori is fine with it I'm glad they exist. My problem is with Nene's atitude.

>> No.19523361

>>19519570
lol

>> No.19523667

>>19516411
Namori's blackmailing Cover with Nenechi's yab. Now she's set for life. Expect to see her daughter in either JP7 or ID3.

>> No.19523698

>>19503478
>even profesional mangakas trace time to time
>completely ignores the shitshow NGNL's tracing issue was
I have no problem with Nene normally, but this is not a light issue, especially in Japan

>> No.19523808

>>19512401
It seems she hasn't traced from just one artist though.

>> No.19524042

>>19523808
The Uzuki's pose may or may not have been traced. The artist in question hasn't said anything yet though. My personal rrat is that since im@s is Bandai Namco's game, and BN is in bed with Cover, both sides probably agreed to sweep this whole thing under the rug.

>> No.19524326

>>19524042
I personally believe it was traced. Those fabric folds are just way too close to call it otherwise.

>> No.19524407

>>19515419
Except there was both an accepted apology and plenty of previous convos addressing art so all the Amerifag artists are trying to Wikipedia Japan laws and force something that no one involved actually wants

>> No.19524470

>>19492383
what did she trace a badly drawn carrot?

>> No.19524841

>>19515958
It's fine you stupid fucking illiterate.

>> No.19528021

>>19497011
This.

>> No.19528179

>>19492601
You retard antis are so blatant it's embarrassing , now that Rushia's gone you latch on to the next drama that's already been resolved

>> No.19528567

>>19523698
>He belives a shitshow made by a monkey means something
>Doesn't even know that most popular mangaka trace all the time and nobody cares
you're right, this is not a light issue, because this is not issue at all.
Nijiniggers and Dramafaggots are so desperate to find something to leech that they will eat a nothingburger like this, then shit it, only to eat that NothingShit again.

>> No.19529079
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>>19492383


I don't watch nene so any larger context here is not known to me, but there's literally nothing wrong with tracing. It's like using training wheels or how you dad would hold you steady while learning to ride a bike (apologies to any poor bastards out there); copying other artists is the most effective way to develop your hand skill from scratch. When you are a beginner, there is no question of how you should move, because you are not capable of moving how you would please in any case - the question is learning how to move in the first place. People who say things like 'you should only draw from your own hand' don't actually care about your development.

If she was trying to pass someone else's work off as her own that would be a separate matter (given it's nene though i would be very surprised if this is the case), but the act of tracing itself is not only not bad, it's in fact one of the most valuable tools your toolbox as an artist.

>> No.19529834

>>19492383
Hololive needs 1 yab per month to keep niji from the spotlight. It was just her turn to do one.

>> No.19530064
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19530064

>>19529079
>If she was trying to pass someone else's work off as her own that would be a separate matter (given it's nene though i would be very surprised if this is the case)
Then you're in for a surprise because that is what happened and why there was such a kerfuffle. When people complain about tracing they are really talking about tracing as plagiarism.

>> No.19530079

>>19492383
t. shitty 1view DeviantArt artist

>> No.19530150

>>19530064
I like that Nene's art has so much love and energy while the original has the raped depression thing going on.

>> No.19530250

>>19528567
Based, Nene should trace more! Everyone should refer to her as Tracer Nene because there isn't anything wrong with plagiarism objectively.

>> No.19530651
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19530651

Nene needs to take this as an opportunity to face her fear of drawing hands.

>> No.19531051

because she can literally just get away with it with no consequences

>> No.19532236

>>19516320
nobody except faggot twitch artists care, copying is how we went from paintings in caves to you being able to jerk off to drawn children

>> No.19532559

Since its Nene i can forgive it, I'm sure there was no malicious intent. Now if it was one of the other holo whores they should neck themselves!!

>> No.19532643

>>19501972
Fukken saved

>> No.19532936

Honestly, is tracing anatomy really that big of a deal if you change every other aspect of the drawing? I could see being upset if someone took your drawing, made minor changes like recoloring the hair or eyes, and passed it off as their own, but that's not what Nene did at all.

>> No.19532977

>>19532936
She should have credited the original artist.

>> No.19533451

This is what passes for a yab to you people? Pathetic.

>> No.19534330

https://twitter.com/_namori_/status/1393903039111516162

>I love your CD jacket

Fucking hell let it go

>> No.19534365

>>19534330
>https://twitter.com/_namori_/status/1393903039111516162
That was a tweet from last may.

>> No.19534882

Artist fag took tracing too seriously while they are using cracked drawing app

>> No.19535112

>>19534365
Yes? In response to the CD jackets she drew either for NENENENENE or Lunch With Me

>> No.19535174

Is referencing a pose considering tracing or stealing? I'm not an artist but I don't think it is.
She copied a pose of another art and did it in her own style with maybe a few small similar like fucking hands or clavicle lines.

I don't think she should do it SO much but I think it's harsh.

>> No.19535354

>>19535112
Hilarious that she didn't notice it was her own art being traced lmao

>> No.19536662

>>19535354
Or she didn't care; either way it's a nothingburger

>> No.19536702

>>19501682
>Overworked
>Streamer
It barely counts as work

>> No.19536715

>>19535354
Has anyone considered the possibility that, since she and Nene are friends, she could have known all along and given Nene permission to do it?

>> No.19537986

>>19492601
fuck off iofi
nothin disgusting about it

>> No.19538363

>>19536715
Wouldn't the answer them be that Namori had allowed her to use the image as references? Or maybe she allowed some but Nene overdid it, who knows.

>> No.19538435

>>19492383
I've seen so many artists get shamed into disappearing off the net for a while for this in japan. They don't have any respect for tracers.

>> No.19538893

>>19538435
This. EOPs are desperately trying to defend her saying either that she's friends with Namori or that only artists care about this, when the problem is neither. Tracing is more of a PR disaster than anything. Nips treat is as a terrible sin unconditionally.

>> No.19538940

What is the big deal here? This is all just random doodling anyways, it simply seems like she just used some references for easy posing. Would you fags have been fine with her making it .2 cm to the left or something?

>> No.19538977

>>19538893
Because they are faggots. There's a reason why the popular male physique there is a woman with a dick.

>> No.19539368

>>19538977
>Because they are faggots.
I agree, but it's just kind of funny how completely removed the discussion here is from what's happening in the places that might actually have an effect on Nene.

>> No.19540400

>>19536715
If that were true, EOP trash, then why is she not helping her """"friend"""" by announcing to the world that Nene has her permission instead of watching her get ripped apart by the wolves? Truly, a friend could take 2 seconds to type something out to spare her friend the misery?

>> No.19540422

TRACE ON

I am the Bone of my Pen
Photosoft is my Body and Ink is my Blood.
I have created over a Thousand Pictures,
Unknown to Antis,
Nor known to Fans.
Have withstood Pain to create many Arts
Yet those Hands will never hold Anything.
So, as I Pray--
Unlimited Tracing Works

>> No.19541064

>>19492383
What settlement did they arrived with Namori? Is Nene forced to divorce her husbands and take wives instead to appease Namori? Will Nene become a yuribait chuuba?

>> No.19541997

>>19538940
Well for one it is dishonest because she didn't credit the mangaka at all despite tracing their work to make her own that she was then using for official hololive merch.

>> No.19542104

>>19541064
Namori was given a personalized Ecchi ASMR audio

>> No.19543483

Nene...

>> No.19543725

>>19492383
>I think this would set a very bad precedent if it goes unpunished.

Coco and Rushia have shown that punishments are useless. Most of the older talent have reached a point where hololive is holding them back and they would make more money not being in a group and just being an Indie. Since vtubing has hit the world market the sense of Japanese loyalty and being shunned has broken. Getting kicked from hololive at this point is like a reward.

>> No.19543883

>>19543725
I don’t think Nene is capable of running something on her own, she is really dumb.
>NenePro
NenePro is a black company...

>> No.19544067

>>19535354
She draws a lot of shit, there's no way she can remember all of it.

>> No.19544081

>>19543883
If you watch more indies you'll understand it's an act. Most indies don't give a damn about muh immersion or give up on the bit 3-6 months in. The only reason Nene acts dumb is because hololive has decided that it's how they want her to act to prevent too many of the same personality type in the group.

>> No.19544130

The funny part is that Nene is the third Chibu/Nagoya based illustrator to be accused of plagiarism this year.

>> No.19544489

>>19544081
I understand that many vtubers act dumber than they are to be more endearing but I think it isn’t an act with Nene because rather than the typical “math hard!” and the like from girls pretending to be dumb it has real life negative consequences for herself and her coworkers, things like accidental doxxing everyone, spoiling stream announcements, getting kiara demonetised etc. Her stupidity appears to genuine.

>> No.19544652

>>19492383
Laziness. All artists trace and reference. She just didn't know how to hide it properly.

>> No.19545704

>>19513945
I thought UUUOOOOOHHHH was just a joke.

>> No.19546094

>>19530064
>>19530651
Nene's first mistake was exclusively using the same artist for all her poses.

>> No.19546592

>>19544489
you do realize that she was semi famous before joining hololive right? Pretty much everyone has doxed themselves and each other in hololive. Indie life is easier than corpo. Especially when the majority of your fanbase follows you.

>> No.19547792

>coco says taiwan
>witch hunt then cancelled
>rushia complains about being mistreated
>witch hunt then cancelled
>nene makes cover liable for fraud
>nothing
m-my knees.....

>> No.19548171

I like Nene.

>> No.19549485

>>19547792
But she's so cute. And she's so dumb, she obviously didn't know what she was doing.

>> No.19550366

:/ I'm unsubbing I can't trust a tracer

>> No.19552035
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19552035

>> No.19552974

>>19550366
Kleptomania is surprisingly common in women. It’s a disorder, it’s not her fault.

>> No.19553326

>>19552974
I wouldn't trust a kleptomaniac with my shit, even if it's not their fault.

>> No.19553539

>>19492383
based nene

>> No.19553651

I hate EOPs and anglo ''people''

>> No.19554129
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19554129

>>19553326
Who said you had a choice?

>> No.19557418

So nothing happen and dramafags still dramafags, the end :)

>> No.19558688

jwu from a coma after the rushia graduation, can i get a qrd?

>> No.19559426

>>19558688
>nene has been selling traced art as merchandise for a while now
>nip internet discovers that and goes nuts, they have a long history of hate boners for tracing (and for vtubers)
>it's in fact a nothingburger legally speaking, even more so because she's friends with the artist she'd been tracing, said artist even commented positively in one of the traced illustrations in the past, but PR wise it's kind of bad because of how looked down upon tracing is in nipland, e.g. just this week nip internet was in flames about pokemon merch that had tracing in it and the pokemon company had to cancel the contract with the illustrator and take the merch off the shelves to save face (most EOPs are oblivious to almost everything in this paragraph)
>cover officially apologized for the tracing
>nene made an apology stream, but she won't admit it's tracing for some reason, probably because she's salty about angry nips, but that only made them angrier
>they were angrier for a while and now most people don't give a shit anymore

>> No.19560313
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19560313

>>19546094
There is an Idolmaster one that some say could be traced too but that one looks like it may just be referenced.

>> No.19560369

>People have started calling Nene "Tracey"

>> No.19560538

She's under a lot of pressure with not a lot of time or support and management clearly not keeping an eye on things... corners were cut.

>> No.19564794

nipple

>> No.19564804

Deviantards seethe.

>> No.19565205

>>19492601
Seething ugly fat unwashed fujo detected

>> No.19565651
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19565651

>>19492601
Ive created this original pose. Anyone drawing a girl with their hands to their waist is directly plagiarizing my hard work, I fucking hate tracers

>> No.19565886

>>19565651
Why are you pretending to be retarded? Are you really that upset?

>> No.19565955

>>19565886
Tracing is based and original art is cringe. Nene should trace more.

>> No.19566377

>>19514348
>/vt/ is one person

>> No.19567304

>>19565886
Oh shit, you traced his drawing and sold it didn’t you? Why won’t you admit it you piece of shit?

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