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---The Kiarmu Timeline---
(only "important" interractions, most tweet/cute interractions skipped)
>First interactions Era: Pomu replies to Kiara's washing machine explosion and they talk about it
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1400864593719746562
https://files.catbox.moe/1me95f.png
one month later she replies to her again, no response
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1413562401518141442
>Kiara tweets waiting for Pomu after late to Karaoke after a month of no reply
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1419806052430893057
https://files.catbox.moe/79zqyy.png
>Kiara enters Pomu's stream Era
https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6493 (promises more Hello Project)
https://youtu.be/b9-iggvRWXw?t=15141
>She will visit me eventually
https://youtu.be/LbyitrWHbU8?t=5876
https://youtu.be/LbyitrWHbU8?t=10229
>Kanauru Gingerbread Rap Era
https://youtu.be/5N9YguERWJg?t=4985
https://youtu.be/5N9YguERWJg?t=12064
https://youtu.be/Xefr784MCkM?t=5401
>Kiara talks about how Pomu was the first non-Holo to message her right after her outfit reveal failed
https://youtu.be/BGxGY2jl6dw?t=23146
>Pomu dedicates a song to a "certain someone" (obviously for Kiara upon her previous requests from the last karaoke)
https://youtu.be/mDH4PFbAsIo?t=4197
>Selen and Pomu watch Kanauru's video and mention Kiara
https://youtu.be/EzbO9N-hX7k?t=36240
>Kanauru makes a special video for Kiara and Pomu
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1486132264299687937
>Kiara says she may have donated "quite a lot" of money to Pomu for her outfit reveal. Also reads some DMs she sent to Pomu
https://youtu.be/Y-yIyl4FOaw?t=21020
https://youtu.be/AKAM_MSN-FY?t=11051

Bonus:
>Pomu means chubby
https://streamable.com/4hb9xn
>Bringing idolculture into HoloEN and NijiEN
https://streamable.com/11pizq
>>Kiara singing Diamond City Lights (what Pomu references above)
https://youtu.be/S66mI7Sku74?t=496
>Selen tries to avoid mentionning KFP in her analogy
https://youtu.be/DeCK8I_GQ4U?t=3532
>Kiara clarifies Hololive collab permissions. Says there's "only one person" who she wants to collab with nowadays. (Doesn't mention Nijisanji collab perms at all but mentions indies' and VSJ's positively).
https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084
Jail Sex RP
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1495566161030823941

>All Kiara twitter mentions to Pomu
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Atakanashikiara)%20(to%3Apomurainpuff)&src=typed_query

>All Pomu twitter mentions to Kiara
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Apomurainpuff)%20(to%3Atakanashikiara)&src=typed_query&f=top

>> No.19446545,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>19446342
NTA but Niji if we consider Ollie and Selen's situation. Otherwise it's Holo.

But IIRC the one girl, Millie I think, membered Moona's channel recently during Moona's stream. I would hope shit is happening behind the scenes but probably not

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19436774

>zey have synergy?
>collab ban eet

>> No.19438358

>>19436774
>>collab ban eet
After Holofes I believe

>> No.19438560
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i just dont understand the motivation behind the collab ban. is the fear of competition so strong?

>> No.19439728

>>19438560
Too many conspiracies tor a real answer unironically

>> No.19440008

>>19438560
Cover is afraid of giving exposure to EN corpos that stream on Youtube. It's not specifically a HoloEN ban on NijiEN, or even a ban on just NijiEN. If there is a large, multi group collab and NijiEN or any other small YT corpo with ENs are there then you can count on Hololive to be absent. If Nachomama organizes a family collab then she'll have to choose between Gura and Luto to be there. If VShojo jumped to YT then they'd be banned. This isn't a HoloEN decision, it's a Hololive/Cover decision. Management knows the English side of the fandom is very reluctant to give other groups a chance and they like it that way.

>> No.19440259

>>19438560
HoloEN is a walled off garden for some reason.

>> No.19440298

>>19436339
pomu no...

>> No.19442785

>>19438560
Chinese investors anderstand

>> No.19444763

>>19438560
If you run HoloEN and have dead hours all day long and 2/3 of your streamers don't show up to work, would you really want to give any exposure to the competition

>> No.19444860

>>19438358
you mean... after holofes it will be lifted? or hololive will 100% ban all collabs, not just in EN branches but JP too?

>> No.19444980
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>>19444860
After Holofes it'll be lifted. Before I was hoping that after Lazu's outfits they'd allow it but that's not the case clearly. Then I started thinking and remembered that Kiara said her ideal collab with Pomu is a 3D one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqeVopINg2I
so the current hopium is that after Kiara does her real 3D at Holofes (and hopefully Niji's soon after if need be), they will do a real 3D in their real models

>> No.19444989

>>19436339
nice

>> No.19445035

>>19444980
they will be allowed to and they would prefer to*

>> No.19445164

>>19444980
It will never happen dude, Kiara's already given up on the idea, she doesn't even bother giving hope for it like saying "one day" or whatever

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>>19445164
>Kiara's already given up on the idea
Just because it's not talked about 24/7 doesn't mean it's not happening anon.
Mori stopped talking about Charlie around debut and just recently confirmed she's now allowed to collab with him, for example.

>> No.19445242

>>19444980
There might be something to this. Nina said she's physically flying out to meet Mika Melatika in a couple of months, and Pomu has been bringing up the idea of having the NijiEN girls visit Tokyo Disneyland together. The Niji 3D waiting list isn't set in stone, so there's a non-zero chance that Lazulight could have theirs this year.

>> No.19445366

>>19445164
A 3D collab may not happen for a long-ass time, but a normal collab still can, and it doesn't seem like Kiara has given up on it yet. Check this from less than a month ago: https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084
>VShoujo: Generally OK. Indie: Case-by-case.
>But there's only one girl I want to collab with, and she isn't an indie.

>> No.19445371

>>19445164
Anon, Twitter DM-sex was LITERALLY confirmed
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1495568142445256708

>> No.19445736

>>19436339
collab is coming, I can feel it.

>> No.19446008

>>19440008
it's Niji who cockblocked the collab, anonchama. After the fallout, Kiara still mentions Pomu every now and then, but Pomu started keeping her mouth shut, even when Selen and her chat was talking about ''KFP,'' you can tell Pomu avoided mentioning Kiara.

>> No.19446175

>>19444763
That's a pretty sensible take

>> No.19446267

>>19445235
She has had permissions for a while now, hasn't she? Does this mean Charlie is ghosting her? Would be based if true.

>> No.19446301

>>19446008
Pomu still references Kiara in members zatsudans. It's probably more that NijiEN doesn't want to be seen as "leeching" from Kiara, so they try to keep mentions limited.

>> No.19446342

>>19446301
so which side do you think blocked the collab?

>> No.19446347

>>19446267
>Does this mean Charlie is ghosting her
Or she just didn't ask yet

>> No.19446545

>>19446342
One company has a history of limiting and controlling who their talents can collab with
The other company collabs with outside vtubers weekly

One company has audience to lose from exposure
The other has audience to gain from exposure

Logically, it would make sense for Cover to be the ones blocking it.

>> No.19446905

Yagoo...the collab fees...

>> No.19446973

Someone post the Romeo and Juliet edit

>> No.19447082

>>19444763
> 2/3 of your streamers don't show up to work
Boggles my mind how nonchalantly they're treating this. Assuming it's a rational decision, the data they have must really be telling them that simps will keep paying even for literally 0 content.

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>>19447082
>Simps
Go back
>2/3
I mean, it's not that bad. And considering the offcollab you can even justify it. But yes, overall, Kiara, Mori, Bae, and sometimes Fauna, are carrying all of EN on their backs.

Also I know this is from January I couldn't find the Febuary one. There's no difference though, those 4 sill do the most, and 4/11 isn't good.

>> No.19447614

>>19447441
Gura?

>> No.19447713

>>19447441
wow lamy is a beast

>> No.19447719

>>19447441
>4/11 isn't good.
it's not, but what can they do? Ame and Mumei moved out, Ina got the coof, Kronii PC exploded, Sana is gonna be Sana.

>> No.19447750

>>19447713
Lamy is honorable HoloEN, she's filling the void on NA timeslots

>> No.19447759

>>19447441
>>19447614
Yeah, looking at the February Teamup, it looks to be more Kiara, Bae, Gura, and sometimes Fauna and Irys.

>> No.19447957

The thing about this collab block is that's so utterly baffling that we can't even make good rrats about it. It comes from nowhere and it makes no sense for either side, >>19444763
is probably the closest we'll get and it's a small mouse at best.

>> No.19448214

>>19447719
is the rrat dead about them living together?

>> No.19448341
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>The thing about this collab block is that's so utterly baffling that we can't even make good rrats about it
Rrat, Pomu will be EN3 and they just don't want Kiara collabing with a future EN.

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>>19448341
I'll buy this

>> No.19451380

>>19448341
I would also consider someone seeing discord "leaks" and thinking that's unprofessional or that chinashit crap.

>> No.19451515

>>19451380
>chinashit
No idea what this means but sounds autistic

>> No.19454354

>>19451515
china coco stuff

>> No.19455423

>>19454354
I gotchu, I thought you were referring to the "my thoughts on Taiwan" picture. I saw it but completely ignored it since I'm tired of chink drama also I didn't know if it was roommate shit so that was another reason I ignored

>> No.19459278

>>19436339
Kiarmu is a terrible ship name. Takapuff is better.

>> No.19459511

>>19438560
Seeing that Nijisanji is okay with people collabing with straight up 3D streamers like Sykkuno, I am pretty sure all the blame lies completely at Hololive's feet.

>> No.19460224

>>19459278
Was it not pomutori?

>> No.19460320

this thread always devolves into the collab ban time loop whenever its up...

>> No.19460348

>>19460320
Like the other anon said, you literally can't even make rrats about it. There's literally nothing, for better or for worse

>> No.19460399

>>19438560
There's no ban. A lot of the talents in both companies are the same person.

>> No.19460621

>>19459278
It perfectly incorporates idea of ships being retarded, so it's functionally best option.

>> No.19460679

more KFPomu

>> No.19460972

>>19440259
>>19440259
>>19440259

>> No.19463002

So here's a question. How far does the ban on acknowledging the other company go? Like if your name is "Tim [KFP Acolyte (Third of the Sixteen - Gold Edition: The Revenge)]", not an actual name by the way, just something I made up as an example, and you send a superchat to Pomu, will she read your entire name or will she just call you Tim?

>> No.19463173

>>19463002
She doesn't read out super long names like that, buf if you name yourself just "KFP" or "Kiara's Employee", she'll probably say it.

>> No.19463227

>>19436339
good thread

>> No.19463625

>>19446008
Holokikes making shit up again. Niji EN has no problem collaborating with indies, VShojo, PRISM, and WACTOR. Hell they just ended a collab with people outside Niji EN. How frequently does Holo EN collaborate outside of their corpo? Last time was Callie with Mouse. Chances are you can count the amount of times Holo EN collabed outside for an entire year and chances are it is similar to outside collabs for Niji EN within a week or two.

>> No.19463670

>>19463625
>Callie
Entire argument disregarded
Go back

>> No.19465501

>How far does the ban on acknowledging the other company go?
Man the entire OP is videos of them acknowledging each other on stream. Kiara literally acknowledged Pomu is Slither i.o
But it's clear Pomu want's to mention her not as much, and again, probably to not seem like
>Hurr she's leeching of Kiara
So her mentions seem to be in members only if any. Kiara on the other hand doesn't care and if it comes up (in a natural way) she'll acknowledge her.
For the company in general, I'm sure they can talk about each other as much as they want, but that just makes people go to the other streamer's chat and say
>Hey ____ talked about you!!
And has people begging under tweets for collabs, so I can see why two people (Ex: Kiara and Pomu) don't talk about each other all the time and rarely talk publically on twitter and keep stuff in DMs.

>tl;dr
They can all they want but don't to stop enabling collab beggars

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