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>> No.19247512

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.19247548

EN tally anon kys

>> No.19247607

>>19247472
KING reminding the new guys on who's the boss around these parts g44rm

>> No.19247617
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Early gold?

>> No.19247628

>>19247391
I believe Fulgur will be the weaker ones due to schizos thinking Twitter banter between him and Vox as hostility. Keep your eyes out on Knox. He might be dull, but he has a design buff, and the girls seemed to love Uki singing upon debut. I think Sonny might struggle, and Yugo is still an enigma.

>> No.19247648

1st member of Noctyx already debuffing himself
Management will not like it.

>> No.19247653

>>19247472
>chronoir horny post
I kneel.

Also 17k from Vox and 8k for Fulgur overlapping is quite impressive. That's like HoloEN on a good day, even tho Fulgur has 1st stream buff and Vox is doing buff content.

>> No.19247686

I am angry. Angry about numbers. All dead sub of every vtuber should wake up and watch every video on the channel they subscribed to. I want Susan to kneel.

>> No.19247715

Just saw the last thread and it was so sad to see holobros be upset. cheer up buds you still have coco's 549k peak viewership!!!!

>> No.19247726

>>19247628
We are already seeing the 1st sign of cannibalization already. Unless these new guys find a new market to thrive, this will be ugly.

>> No.19247742

man this thread is going great already

>> No.19247766

>>19247653
this is definitely an interesting number, the total is about 25k, and assuming maybe 3k people watching both streams, there's a total of 22k people watching the two fags.
The thing is, Luxiem on their own had a lot of 20k+ streams, and iirc their highest was 22k as well.
Which means they have expanded the market by only about 2k-3k viewers. And even those aren't guaranteed to stay.

>> No.19247797

>>19247257
The answer to this sort of thing is always this question:
Can you convert tourists into regular viewers? That's how you turn a boost like this into a permanent incline. Big event -> Do interesting streams that showcase why YOU are deserving of attention -> Turns tourists -> casual and casual -> core.
It takes hard work and effort, but it's absolutely possible for her to manage.
>>19247405
Yes. It's likely one of the things that put her into conflict with management. Given how she's done things, she may have wanted to do an asacoco style show that put the spotlight on interesting/promising indie talents (This is a rrat based on the types of things she's doing now that she's no longer under cover).
Well, all I can say is good luck, because the kind of help she needs has to come from within and its very rare for these types of people to be able to have that moment of self-introspection that leads to genuine growth as a person.

>> No.19247807 [DELETED] 

>>19247766
This guy is the least popular member of the new wave though.

>> No.19247893

>>19247807
Post debut stream is generally one of the strongest regardless of content.

>> No.19247897

>>19247807
in that case 2-3k is the floor.
we can see their real potential once their most popular guy (Alban?) overlaps with Vox or whoever is currently second.

>> No.19247906

IRyS new og song
Bae new og song

oh god, I can already see irystocrat seething if Bae's get more views, just like Mumei's

>> No.19247908

>>19247766
>a lot of 20k+ streams
There's been 3 until today.
>Vox RFA
>Ike karaoke
>Niji game show

This is Vox's 6th Sims 4 stream and while he is making characters again, it's his highest Sims 4 stream (his first one peaked at 13k). He is still inclining.

>> No.19247932 [DELETED] 

>>19247893
Of course it is, and he hit 15k without overlaps so I wonder how high the others will go.

>> No.19247950

>Vampire Survivors is a buff game!
>Meanwhile Roboco barely hit 2k
>Mel sub 2k

>> No.19247984

>>19247950
What time did they all start the game at, and were others playing before them?

>> No.19247987

>>19247797
I don't really watch Aki that much, but what does she have as her OP/ED for the stream? If she puts Shallys there during her buff times, she could get a bunch of tourists potentially interested in either the MV quality, her dancing or her singing.

>> No.19248008

>>19247766
I don't know. There isn't really much you can take from these numbers as debuts bring tourists and sleeper subs back in the short term. I agree on the idea that it probably didn't expand the fanbase a whole lot, so it'll be interesting to see where they are in a few weeks.

>> No.19248010

>>19247950
conclusion, Aki is inclining

>> No.19248025

>>19247906
IRyS is cursed. She doesn't get the HoloEN buff for songs.
>>19247807
Will still get better viewership than Selen.

>> No.19248053

More Vox transfer. Fulgur dropped to 7.9k while Vox rose to 18.1k.

>> No.19248079
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>66,955: Alban (Nijisanji)
>61,308: Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji)
>60,117: Uki (Nijisanji)
>57,292: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>52,651: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>47,984: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>27,463: Gura (Hololive)
>15,585: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>11,679: Luca (Nijisanji)
>6,166: Mori (Hololive)

>> No.19248096

>>19247987
Her Intro is some pixel thing using her newest outfit. Her outro is currently an ad for her merch.

>> No.19248100

>>19248010
She's becoming midtier it seems, always had that potential

>> No.19248111

>>19248025
Yugo will surpass all the other girls and will have better CCV on average than any of the girls even though it is a woman with a male avatar that is ESL.

>> No.19248127

>>19248079
EN Gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090
4. Gura (Hololive) - 15,901
5. Gura (Hololive) - 21,737
6. Gura (Hololive) - 15,900
7. Baelz (Hololive) - 9,914
8. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,409
9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,841
10. Mori (Hololive) - 21,458
11. Kronii (Hololive) - 11,342
12. Baelz (Hololive) - 12,112
13. Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,391
14. IRyS (Hololive) - 15,466
15. Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) - 22,662
16. Gura (Hololive) - 18,916
17. Gura (Hololive) - 16,266
18. Kiara (Hololive) - 19,426
19. Mori (Hololive) - 26,667
20. Gura (Hololive) - 17,726
21. Gura (Hololive) - 33,028
22. Vox (Nijisanji) - 17,336
23. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,043
24. Baelz (Hololive) - 14,692
25. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,154
26. Amelia (Hololive) - 40,346
27. Alban (Nijisanji) - 66,955

Hololive - 21
Nijisanji - 6
Others - 0

>> No.19248141

>>19248053
Anyone who streams during Vox's timeslot is fucked.
There goes the fujobucks.

>> No.19248142

>>19248053
Vox is going to break 20k once Fulgur ends his stream.
Insane numbers for his 4th(?) character creation Sims 4 stream.
Even gimmicks like these usually wear off after the 2nd or 3rd stream, but he's going to get his 2nd highest peak ever.

Probably new debuts breathing life back like how Myth got a numbers boost when Council debuted.

>> No.19248153

>>19247950
its a buff if you're not a shit tier holo
literally no game is large enough of a buff to save roboco or mel

>> No.19248160

>>19248079
>>19248127
kys

>> No.19248165

>>19248127
So ... Hololive wins the disabled medal this month?

>> No.19248169

>>19247950
It is considering Okayu also got over 20k. It just depends if you can snag the wave of people that are actually interested in it. Aki did a solid job of positioning herself when Pekora was finishing up and scooped up viewers. It helped that they had a good interaction on ARK before as well.

>> No.19248192

>>19248079
>>19248127
Good numbers... Still, obligatory kys

>> No.19248198

>>19247906
Real Irystocrats know that the new song is not that good. Especially the english parts. But IRyS is now actively shilling it (probably because OMEGA is in trouble if this is not successful). Maybe the shilling is working though. It's gaining more views than Sparks of Joy

>> No.19248208

>>19248079
Damn, remember the days when King is the only hope for Niji?

>> No.19248224

>>19248127
>>19248079
kys

>> No.19248234

>>19248142
>Probably new debuts breathing life back like how Myth got a numbers boost when Council debuted.
It would be my guess. Debuts are good at making a shake up and waking up sleeping subs.

>> No.19248262

>>19247368
Mentioned on pre-niji account. It's locked now though so you'll have to do your archive reps to find it.

>> No.19248270

>>19248142
Vox is getting the debut buff instead of Fulgur is funny

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>>19247950
RBC sucks at the game. She keeps on dying in the slow parts. Aki is a better player and can reach more hype parts. Choco did so too.

And no I’m not Sio

>> No.19248391

>>19247950
at this point i'm certain that nothing will save roboco, she's just way too boring

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>>19247950
You have to be good at the game for people to watch it

>> No.19248428

>>19247295
Perhaps she knows that Rushia is too broken mentally and plans to do something to help her. She might unironically be the one to save Hololive from an eventual yab going onwards.

>> No.19248437

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaehoXlvM4k/
Non-chan's thoughts about retiring as Ai-chan.

>> No.19248461

Btw Kenmochi got 35k already which is probably gold for the next day.

>> No.19248466

>>19248428
Seeing how Rushia went to a JUNfag for help recently, I seriously doubt that.

>> No.19248468

>>19247466
Lux = Light
Noct = Night
From there,
Iem could just be a latin suffix, in which case it's apparently an "Used to form an abstract noun".
Yx could be using the connection to Nyx, goddess of the night, to reinforce the night theme.
Tl;dr : It's more chunni lore bullshit rolled into the names

>> No.19248507

>>19247950
Don't you dare making the Kingslayer angry anon! She can mog anyone if she ever feels like it!
>Picrel not available as I am too lazy to search for the angry Mel image

>> No.19248512

>>19248079
damn, that looks pretty funny.

>> No.19248518

>>19248461
anything on less than 40 is on slip range

>> No.19248561

>>19248428
She unironically loved HL and one with loose restrictions is her pipe dream.

>> No.19248571

>>19248437
That sounds....rather final. Jeez.

>> No.19248570

>>19248165
And with way fewer Gura stream than i thought.

>> No.19248595

>>19248079
I really didn't expect the males to boost nijiEN visibility this much. Expected at most double of Luxiem debut numbers. I'm really curious to see how to translates to another all female wave.

>> No.19248646

>>19248595
The same way it does for NijiJP, it doesnt

>> No.19248654

>>19248595
You're not going to see another female only wave again. They need at least one man there to bring in a huge audience to see the girls.

>> No.19248693

>>19248165
Normal medal wins too.

>> No.19248700

>>19248595
it's manjisanji, just like jp, the girls are there to be props

>> No.19248738
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It's a new week in Japan, it's the time for the usual analysis of NijiJP weekly sub growth. I hope you aren't bored of this.

Kuzuha (1st) continues his 10k/week streak, and hit 1.2 million subs. His partner, Kanae (2nd), has been very active with FPS collabs this week and grew nicely as well. Time will tell if their concert will boost their growth further (it definitely boosted their unit channel). Mito (3rd) is above her normal growth thanks to a kino stream and her unceasing attempt at short video content. Hoshikawa's (4th) growth is slowly winding down as work ramps up for Deion-bu's concert in March; but she kept her APEX content steady.

The ex-Gamer girls, Sasaki (5th), Shiina (14th), Himawari (6th) and Ririmu (53rd) are slightly growing from their Valorant reps, and Hima in particular drew some eyes from actually being good at the game. Ange (8th) pitched a singles solid zatsudan and a collab with Inui this week, but still grows 4k.

The boys in the upper rungs maintains their good sub growth, ROFMAO members are boosted as usual with Kenmochi (13th) leading the pack.

Amamiya (30th) is enjoying a healthy incline off her new costume reveal, original goods announcement, and being extremely cute in general, all while reaping off Valorant boost.

Naraka (49th) remains a unique standout of the growing FPS girls, with her outstanding skills at Valorant and generally tryharding for the Valorant team battle. Chigusa (46th) similarly enjoys growth from Valorant and a new costume that breaks her flat chest curse.

Lauren (55th) inclining off his comeback stream after the 24-hour afterparty that knocked him out for a week, and being commentator for the Valorant customs.

Hayama (68th) demonstrates you can incline just by streaming demanding games an absolutely ridiculous amount of time to the point you get health issues off it. Yugioh platinum endurance AND 24 hours of Elden Ring. Madlad. Sadly she's not as cute as Lulu.

Natsume (89th) benefits from a golden Yugioh moment between her and Yashiro/Chaika/Leos, which nicely lines up with the release of her light novel yesterday. It remains to be seen how well it'll perform.

Ngo (54th) looks to start a viral incline AGAIN off the well-received radio episode of Kanae and her, plus meme clips of her gameplay is hogging #1 on NND again. Her song cover also got restored just today which may help.

In unimportant news, the meme ghost (106th) lost 100 subs.

Not in this chart, but worth mentioning is the growth of some NijiKRs after the merger announcement. Biggest beneficiary goes to Nari (30k->50k) after Kuzuha recommended a clip of her+valo hijinks. Hada and Ha Yun are also inclining due to Valo collabs with the main branch. Suha is also inclining for some reason. I haven't looked at the data for NijiIDs but I think only Mika is inclining right now.

>> No.19248773

>>19248595
>female wave
there wont be another female wave, maybe theyll stick a few more girls in male models though

>> No.19248861

>>19248571
Turning teenagers into superstars was a mistake.

>> No.19248880

>>19248773
Wouldn't that piss off Elira since she can't anymore of her cronies into NijiEN?

>> No.19248897

>>19248738
Mika is growing off of her association with NijiEn. She's doing a good job at it too.

>> No.19248967

>>19248595
Nijisanji is for males this new wave just cements that.
>>19248654
I'm actually interested in seeing how much the males interact with females going forward considering how much they're overshadowing them. Will they collab a lot or avoid them considering they tank their numbers?

>> No.19248972

>>19248897
Mika is looking at Moona and she is craving that sweet sweet 1M sub.

>> No.19248978

>>19248738
>sunflower girl only 1k despite being in the top 10
SAVE HER

>> No.19249042

Maybe all hope is not lost in SEA because it seems that Vietnamese viewers prefer watching HoloEN compared to NijiEN.
I've seen a fuck ton of Vietnamese clips for Hololive but barely anything for Nijisanji.

>> No.19249044

>>19243815
it's simple, just hire whoever was writing Moona's song lyrics
some of that + Irys' voice should be easy enough to produce a decent song.
High is close to 700k from JUST word of mouth from people telling others about this cool MV + song.

>> No.19249079

>>19248437
I thought it was pretty obvious that it was a graduation. Kiara was pretty blunt about how "indefinite hiatus" is just code for graduation in the idol industry.
They also released a voice bank of Kizuna Ai and I'm guessing they paid her for the rights to use that over hiring her as a VA in the future.

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>>19248153
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetard

>> No.19249160

>>19248861
It almost always is. They lack the life skills required to navigate things and it's very easy for unscrupulous adults to take advantage of someone who lacks the wisdom to push back in the right way.
Hopefully she finds a new path for herself moving forward, having put A.I. to sleep now.

>> No.19249162

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6bysYNuS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6bysYNuS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6bysYNuS0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKhbP57HVNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKhbP57HVNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKhbP57HVNo


Number prediction?

>> No.19249165

>>19248281
>can reach more hype parts?
Are the HoloJPs not beating it? Gura beat the game twice, once on regular and once on Hyper mode.

>> No.19249230

>>19247472
>"Im not here to be a sexy streamer"
Fulgur .........the numbers......

>> No.19249253

>>19249162
Ah, The old meme-review timeslot, but it's a monday in JP... (NoonJP). Over 10k for sure, I think she should be able to hit 20k+ depending on who appears as guests.
The song, it'll depend a lot on how it sounds of course.

>> No.19249261

>>19249162
18k-20k

>> No.19249273

>>19249165
Aki is. RBC isnt.

>> No.19249280

>>19249162
Bae, please numberfag your song after it comes out. It's always painful to see Holos ignore the existence of their songs when it comes out.

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>>19248738
Nari was basically Japanese already, even more so than Bora and Roha.
All she needed was some exposure and now she's an over 1k avg streamer for this week.

>> No.19249283

>>19249165
Aki is pretty good, so she keeps climbing back up above 10k. She's in ez full build.
Fatto catto is also doing well with it.

>> No.19249326

>>19249230
>Will not sell his soul to the fujos
Based and heteropilled

>> No.19249354

I've seen a few clips, streams and even members streams from some Holo members. There are hints that Cover might be considering holding a booth at an overseas convention.

My biggest guest is either Anime Expo or Anime NYC.

>> No.19249440

>>19249354
Those would be the obvious choices. Maybe ACEN or AWA as well (Zun showed up to AWA before).

>> No.19249482

5 holos playing vampire survivor lol? Holy overlap.

>> No.19249599

>>19249482
Imagine getting beaten by a $3 game, the state of Fromsoft

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Yeah I think we are just seeing the limit of how many people will be attracted by vampire survivors.

>> No.19249671

>>19249162
I wonder what numbers her first actual birthday will do if she's still around in 2024

>> No.19249674

>>19249599
Most of the girls are probably too scared to play it, to be fair

>> No.19249693

>>19249655
or maybe the buff already wore out since everyone and their mom is already playing it.

>> No.19249694

>>19248468
Yx makes me think of coccyx more yhan anything.

>> No.19249706

>>19247950
Anon there have been 7 vampire survivor streams today, I think we are just seeing viewer fatigue in action

>> No.19249775

>>19249354
>>19249440
It would a good choice. They should really try pushing the anime audience over here. Especially when they have a lot of high quality animated songs they could be showing off.

>> No.19249793

>>19248079
>>19248127
kys

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>>19248773
>A generation of tomgirls and tomboys that get to swap outfits for their first costume, basically playing both gender
My dick says this could work.

>> No.19249842

>>19249693
stop shitposting anon.
Choco got 14k with it today, El Gato 24k , Aki 13k and Towa 9k
the numbers went to shit when there were 4-5 holos streaming it but even there some of them still got a buff from it

>> No.19249898

>>19249655
Hololive box only works for live2D holos and Miko

>> No.19249926

>>19249842
anon that's what his point is

>> No.19249950

Vampire survivors is a /#/ game

You anons should climax and the damage numbers popping up, right?

>> No.19249987

>>19249950
I've already been milked dry anon.

>> No.19250075

>>19249950
I bit the bullet and bought it. It's a fun game for $3.

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>>19249950
That is indeed a thing I did, yes

>> No.19250272

>>19250093
>Crown instead of Candelabrador for the perfect 6/6 evolution
SHAME.

>> No.19250329

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/t2q0al/achans_birthday_2022/

A-chan important announcement tomorrow.
Also A-chan has been doing her reps

>> No.19250332

So Vox had new debut hype buff and he is playing his most buff game. Yet he can't even beat some stinky sum shork playing a 90's era newgrounds flash game.

Roru Roru Rumao

>> No.19250336

>>19248079
Before
>Nijinigger mental state: Debut doesnt count!!!
After
>Nijinigger mental state: Debut counts!!!!!
You are truly pathetic

>> No.19250377

>>19248165
since when debut count now?

>> No.19250384

>>19250336
Nijifags had all of their buff streams on the same fucking day please understand

>> No.19250437

>>19250329
>she said she wants to see foreigners in person soon
They are going to do a USA tour aren't they? How viable do you think a Hololive US concert tour could be? Myth could be part of it since they have 3D now.

>> No.19250446

>>19248127
>27. Alban (Nijisanji) - 66,955
???????
If he stream or is debut for nijinngers. I remember debut doesn't count for everyone so now because yesterday they count???. They truyl should kill themselves already

>> No.19250490

>>19250384
thats truly sad. they need debut to count now

>> No.19250511

>>19250437
Some anon above said something about holding a booth at a convention. Maybe it's that?

>> No.19250567

Wut, I'm positive debuts counted?


NOVEMBER
1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tourney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part

HOLOX ANNOUNCEMENT AND DEBUT STARTS HERE
26) La+ (Hololive) - 167.6k - Debut
27) Lui (Hololive) - 149.8k - Debut
28) Koyori (Hololive) - 180.5k - Debut
29) Chloe (Hololive) - 176.7k - Debut
30) Iroha (Hololive) - 175.8k - Debut

>> No.19250597

So Hololive is already thinking about expanding their reach holding meet and greet events in other countries?

And Nijisanji is still cancelling live events?

>> No.19250678

>>19250597
>And Nijisanji is still cancelling live events?
Now you realize they are cancelling because their finances are not good

>> No.19250752

>>19250567
count around debuts only. Not on general.
They always seething, crying and demanding that debut should count on general but they will never will. Son If they want their pathetic goldEN real medal start with Gura 27k because thats s normal stream but they are on denial as always demanding that debut counts now.

>> No.19250797

>>19250678
I'm just a little too confused on how they could be in financial trouble. They invest little in their vtubers amd do not pay any salary at all.
Plus, don't they have invesments as well?

>> No.19250843

>>19250597
Wait what? I haven't heard anything about them cancelling other live events except the ones in January due to getting fucked by Covid.

>> No.19250895

>>19250843
I think I've seen some anon talking about Niji having to cancel three?

>> No.19250901 [DELETED] 

>>19250678
That makes no sense, if you book a venue and cancel it you are still liable to pay for it and you don't get anything in return for all the work you will have done 3D work, design work, merch work etc you have already done in preparation. If you were in financial trouble you would want to go ahead with it at all costs and try make as much of it back as you could.

>> No.19251082
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So sad.

>> No.19251095

>>19250446
>>19250377
>debut doesn't count for everyone
Get out with your fucking lies!

>> No.19251180

>>19250901
Well, paying for the venue is not the only business expense. The 3D work, design work, cameramen, audio technicians, and all the staff involved in rehearsal and production are also costs they have to face. And if they have to do it like Cover, with small group recordings due to covid, then it was probably not profitable enough for them to go forward so they cancelled it

>> No.19251191

>>19251095
keep seething nijinniger. We never count debuts on general except for outfits and 3d debuts. They are apart

>> No.19251229

>>19251082
It was me, I stopped watching...
I'm sorry Towers...

>> No.19251258

>>19251191
Debut counts, retard

>> No.19251301 [DELETED] 

>>19251180
Fantasia their big concert was literally cancelled the day before the event because half of the performers got COVID. All the expenses are already paid.

>> No.19251303

>>19250901
People are exaggerating. Nijisanji isn't doing so hot financially but they are not in the "if we don't scrape up enough money this month we going out of business" stage. It's more of the "Executive bonuses are going to be a little thin on the ground this year" stage.

>> No.19251317

What is this bizarre shitposting? Debuts always count, regardless of who it is.
>>19251180
Oh, so they had some smaller events planned that were cancelled? There are risks to trying to go all-in with a shotgun approach I guess.

>> No.19251330

>>19251191
Holobrony here and look at how shit your cope sounds:
>Debuts don't count
same as
>Graduations don't count
>Anniversaries don't count
>Collabs don't count
>3D streams don't count

Seriously, saying we used to not count debuts is the dumbest shit you've ever said.
At best i can see it as someone saying "Vtuber debut of non-vtubers won't count" like with Sodapoppin, otherwise, your braid is mush.

>> No.19251393

>>19251330
Nice job falling for bait.

>> No.19251425

>>19251258
>>19251330
truly pathetic that nijinniger want to count debut now.

>> No.19251457

>>19251301
What about the nijifes?

>> No.19251458

Is Mimi VSpo inclining? 6k viewers for minecraft.

>> No.19251461

>>19248419
>>19248281
Can someone qrd on the history between sio and RBC? Only start watching vtuber back on april 2022

>> No.19251488 [DELETED] 

>>19251303
I think the only other thing that has changed is Universal Music postponed Raindrops live for COVID generally but that's their thing not Nijisanji's.

>> No.19251508

>>19250332
i have taken a look at the numbers and my assessment is that the shark is reclining naturally but the male is suffering from CCVID

>> No.19251523

I think he's just grudgeposting the Nijicope "debuts don't count".
Holy ESL though.

>> No.19251557

Reading last thread and saw >>19247295
I feel like shes probably the right person to support her they both worked for the same company and if Coco had anything bad to say about them shes kept it to herself for the sake of those in it she might care about still. i imagine she might try help the crazy bitch come more to terms with it find her footing elsewhere rather and menhera bombing with whatever info she may or may not have

>> No.19251563 [DELETED] 

>>19251457
Nijifes happened? They even used the venue with two separate stages. They just didn't do a lot of the activities they were going to do in the venues and moved them online instead.

>> No.19251586

>>19251461
Sio was caught shitposting on 5ch when her IP got leaked
People found out she badmouthed other vtubers and made fun of RBC at being bad at Apex

>> No.19251639

>>19251523
>I think he's just grudgeposting the Holocope "debuts shoud count".
fixed for you

>> No.19251709

>>19251393
My mistake.
I actually thought we were over 'SEA troll' hours and into 'early morning braindead burgers' hours.

>> No.19251748

>>19248079
gura is chinese i knew it...

>> No.19251752

>>19251458
Yes, she has since a bit before the new costume.

Didn't expect her to be top among the 6 present, but there she is.

>> No.19251753

>>19251586
Of all things, why be a Roboco anti? That like picking on female bowlers.

>> No.19251785

>>19251709
the sea troll always here. Is just they always seething against holos.

>> No.19251953

>>19248437
o7

>> No.19251961

>>19251753
She just stated the truth, roboco plays apex a lot but still sucks at it

>> No.19251971

>>19251752
that means vspo has around 20k concurrent viewers at the moment (including sumire streaming on twitch)

>> No.19252009

>>19248861
How old is non-chan anyway?

>> No.19252126

>>19252009
If she debuted as Kizuna Ai at the age of 18, that would make her 24 this year (Kizuna Ai's debut was in Nov. 2016).

>> No.19252156

>>19251753
she's not really an anti, she's just, you know, shitposting. It's just that it got linked to her personally

>> No.19252469

>>19249079
It was, people were just coping that she;d be back, the same way people coped that Coco will be showing up at any one of the Gen 4 concerts

>> No.19252489

>>19252126
Damn she was really young huh. Man.. i really hope all the best for her. For all the hard work she did and carry activ8 on her shoulder, i hope they at least gave her a huge pay load for her to retire early and just be a comfy regular streamer or youtuba

>> No.19252638

>>19249079
Releasing that shitty as voice bank during her last live was really a souless move. I bet many was thinking the same but didnt say a word out of respect for oyabun. Activ8 trully prove themselves as souless piece of garbage untill the very end

>> No.19252903

>>19251557
Can you imagine being Suisei, Miko, or Sora who had to scratch and claw from the very bottom to make Hololive what it is today. Then along comes this green haired menhera bitch leaking secrets to drama tubers and threatening to nuke the company.

Rushia better watch her back is all I'm saying.

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Hello /#/!

Today, I present you with an accurate visualization of every single solo, non-member's-only stream that Sana has broadcast in the year 2022.

Have a great Sunday!

>> No.19253219

>>19253162
> 7 streams in 2 months.
I really hope whatever art they're getting her to do was worth wasting a precious slot for a streamer.

>> No.19253283

>>19252903
Not contesting the point you're making, but just want to point out that Suisei didn't officially join hololive until after gen 3.

>> No.19253338

>>19253219
She doesn't care about hololive

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>>19252903
If she dared do anything more than what she already did, sora will send a-chan to correct her in a non-cunny way

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>> No.19253437

>>19253283
Either way it won't take much for some pissed off Hoshiyomi to channel psychopath Suisei and put a hatchet in Rushia's skull.

>> No.19253455

>>19253162
>>19253219
To be fair, Ayame has 5. But the fact that she's being compared to fucking Ayame when she doesn't even have any of her value in the company is already ridiculous enough.
>>19253372
anonchama he peaked at 18k

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>>19251461
>back on april 2022

>> No.19253490

>>19253455
Along with that, Ayame wasn't down to five streams in two months within her first six months in Hololive

>> No.19253551

>>19252903
By all accounts Suisei was among the few that cared for Rushia's firing and posted support before that.

>> No.19253577

>>19253455
>anonchama he peaked at 18k
still though, 12k for sims is downright stupid

>> No.19253650

>>19253283
True but she had to build up her own fame to where she was not only a desirable acquisition, but a desirable enough one that they let her simply port over instead of a rebirth

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Ah, this stream hit 1 million views too
https://youtu.be/rbkjVA6Fjh0?t=4589
The 2020 Feb karaoke big collab.
I still check up on it every now and then since Towa's Yura Yura is what got me into Vsingers in general.

Crazy how these old streams, that many would have never heard of, are still getting views.

The 2019 version would have been a sub 1k CCV stream with how slow chat is, but it's over 200k views now.
https://youtu.be/C9ZZr-pbBMg

>> No.19254212

>>19253918
This is why the Holo Copyright arc was so utterly devastating, on top of the risk of getting completely deleted by Capcom in court. All those moments, forever lost. I'm glad that some of the Holos put a priority on bringing back as much as they could, even if it is a time investment.

>> No.19254215

>>19253551
That was before shit hit the fan though.

>> No.19254492

>>19254215
Indeed. Posted on the 14th after Cover's first announcement. This was probably when they started their deep-dive into Rushia's stuff, where they had an idea things had been leaked, but were willing to let some things slide for the sake of harmony. I don't think any of the Holomem knew just how much garbage was hidden though, since Suisei was wishing Rushia well and hoping she'd come back ASAP in her tweet.
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1493229367543009281

>> No.19254563

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzpuzNA_td4

MY NIGGA SHABBY SUBS IS BACK BITCHES

>> No.19254605

>>19254212
I'm still hoping they work out something with From so they can bring back Noel's Dark Souls vods. People still associate her with the game but outside of clips newcomers aren't able to experience the moments after smashing her face against the same boss for hours.

>> No.19254751

>>19254492
Yeah I doubt they told anyone about what she did until after they concluded their investigations and finalized the firing procedures. It's not the kind of thing you send out in a company bulletin.

>> No.19254802

>>19254563
>marine remembering her time as a JK
im calling bullshit, her number is way too old for that, she's learning from duck to just make shit up

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>>19254802

>> No.19254980
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>140,954: Chronoir (Nijisanji)
>66,921: Alban Knox (Nijisanji)
>61,150: NIJISANJI English Official (Nijisanji)
>60,078: Uki Violeta (Nijisanji)
>57,308: Fulgur Ovid (Nijisanji)
>47,963: Sonny Brisko (Nijisanji)
>52,607: Yugo Asuma (Nijisanji)
>32,414: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,904: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>27,315: Gura (Hololive)
>24,273: Okayu (Hololive)
>20,594: Miko (Hololive)
>20,343: Hal (merise)
>19,899: Suisei (Hololive)
>17,168: Botan (Hololive)
>15,801: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,680: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,577: Fulgur Ovid (Nijisanji)
>14,884: Choco (Hololive)
>14,821: Korone (Hololive)
>12,970: Aki (Hololive)
>11,640: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,318: Noel (Hololive)
>11,212: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,050: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,011: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,925: Mio (Hololive)
>10,629: Naraka (Nijisanji)

The aborted debut by Yugo Asuma doesn't enter the tally because it's a technical restart, and only the highest of the streams gets tallied (like it happened in the past with other streamers).

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>>19254980
>prevents a niji top 10 sweep

>> No.19255121

>>19254980
>Gura and Pekora manage to make it into the top 10, despite the uber buffed day from Nijisanji
BLUE WOMEN SAVE THE DAY
A bit of a jest, but the debuts did quite a bit better than I was expecting by about 20k+. Given the amount of likes, I suspect they manged to draw some of the NijiJP tourists in since they've earned some 'respect' now, with how well Luxiem has done.

>> No.19255133

>>19249042
Can confirm. Vietnamese literally only know Hololive

>> No.19255149

>>19254980
merise rebranded to neo porte
https://neo-porte.jp/

>> No.19255202

>>19254802
Alot of her early stuff is reminiscing about her time at a private JK
One of her most remembered convos was talking about how going to an all girls private JK definitely makes the girls bi at least, hard lez at worst

>> No.19255206

>>19255093
>>19255121
But even without them, Niji still wouldn’t sweep. They ran out of manpower.

>> No.19255236
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>>19254980
>FEBRUARY 2022 GOLD
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 33,951 - Apex Solo Masters climb
2) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,581 - Apex VCC w/ Daruma
3) Marine (Hololive) - 56,541 - Gartic Collab
4) Aqua (Hololive) - 51,799 - Apex Solo Masters climb (Ascended Arc)
5) Subaru (Hololive) - 22,620 - Free talk
6) Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) - 35,769 - Apex Gacha
7) Flare (Hololive) - 32,609 - Mario party collab
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,187 - Apex Gacha
9) Ayame (Hololive) - 29,857 - Return Karaoke
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 41,275 - Return Zatsu
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 47,997 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,836 - Valorant CR Cup
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 55,920 - Valorant CR Cup
14) Choco (Hololive) - 64,215 - Birthday Live
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33,655 - Apex
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 39,182 - Apex
17) Aki (Hololive) - 56,546 - Birthday
18) Towa (Hololive) - 25,019 - Clubhouse 51 feat. Chloe
19) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 51,223 - 500k celebration totsu
20) Flare (Hololive) - 68,566 - New 3D model
21) Gura (Hololive) - 32,992 - Unarchived Karaoke
22) Okayu (Hololive) - 90,647 - Birthday 3D Live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,787 - Vampire Survivors
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,059 (157,990 *) - 3rd gen statement on Rushia firing
25) Choco (Hololive) - 34,057 - ChocoSuba reverse totsu
26) Kizuna AI (Kizuna AI Inc.) - 131,327 - Kizuna AI Last Live
27) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 140,954 - Chronoir Winter 3D Live
* waiting room number, doesn't get on the tally

Per company
>17x: Hololive
>9x: Nijisanji
>1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

Per channel
>5x: Kuzuha
>4x: Aqua
>2x: Flare
>2x: Pekora
>2x: Choco
>1x: Okayu, Chronoir, Kizuna AI, Ayame, Marine, Towa, Aki, Subaru, Fuwa, Toya, Gura, Hoshikawa

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>>19255236

>> No.19255265

>>19255206
>Niji is literally unable to perform a top 10 sweep even with 5(+1) debut streams

>> No.19255266

>>19255149
>merise rebranded to neo porte
From their next appearance forward I'll use the new name.

Did they announce any addition on the roster or it's just Hal and a lot of CR non-vtubers for now?

>> No.19255297

>>19254980
I'm genuinely impressed with Pekora beating the main POV of the Valorant tournament. That's clearly the
> no Kuzuha
debuff

>> No.19255303

With Bubi literally just being Connor im 100% expecting VSJs 'auditions' to just be their already existing extendeds like Snuffy and Haruka. 2views will seethe

>> No.19255327

>>19255265
I mean it’s fucking impossible because they only have 8 giga buffed stream out of 10. Even if they get top 8 the last 3 place will always be filled with top Holos if they are on

>> No.19255382

>>19254980
Its funny imagining 80% of those Niji viewers as tourists. Those are all tourist heavy streams.

>> No.19255387

>>19255266
the rrat is that Rushia was meant to be their new addition

>> No.19255413

>>19255266
From what I heard he just teased their next gen. 6 vtubers: 3 male, 3 female

>> No.19255434

>>19255303
They probably did have some proper ones lined up, but with the whole dox shit and nux drama, they probably got cold feet.

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>>19254980
so are nijifans gonna post chronoir lewds now?

>> No.19255579

>>19249162
15k

>> No.19255607

>>19255303
VShojo makes their money ONLY from merchandise rights. Who is the 2view that's highly merchandisable?

>> No.19255649

>>19255607
>VShojo makes their money ONLY from merchandise rights.
Nope, they can get the sponsorhips on the Twitch bounty board

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>>19255457
Not even a Nijifag but I know when to kneel to the King

>> No.19255741

>>19252903
Rushia could’ve probably still recovered if the messages about wanting Hololive to fail if she fails didn’t come out. But she crossed the line from incredibly dumb and mentally unstable to traitor. If someone pissed off say Kiara I legit think some kfp would happily slash that person’s tires if Kiara gave the slightest indication she would be okay with it. I would not want to be the object of ire of multiple JP fanbases

>> No.19255758

>>19254980
Niji stole gold from their own EN branch?

>> No.19255774

>>19255457
Saying uuuuoooooo to Yuzuki Roa. He's a fucking shitposter lol

>> No.19255833

>>19255607
Why hold open auditions then? Just rebrand Snuffy and Haruka and call it a day, no one would have cared.

>> No.19255879

>>19250797
> Investment
2019-2020 report showed less than $1M profits. The investment money has been burned out.
Say in 2020-2021, if they keep the same spending,
then they are running red if they couldn't get similar revenue.

>> No.19255896

>>19255833
>Why hold open auditions then?
There is always a chance to find a diamond in the rough

>> No.19255947

Has Niji just written off the western male audience. Vtubers are pretty easy to sell as cgdct, streamers with an avatar, the idol experience for those familiar with idol anime etc. how the fuck do you sell fujo baiting to your average western guy with out repulsing them?

>> No.19256040

>>19250797
They invest alot in tech, what do you think thier much vaunted "superior 3d technology" came out of nothing but Riku going on a 36 hour coffee filled progamming binge?

>> No.19256064

>>19255833
Theyre going to redebut them with new lore and models to go with stuff like Nyanners new lore and model

>> No.19256068

>>19255896
Yeah and in the process piss off every 2-bit vtuber wannabe who applied when you don't pick anyone except the people who have already been collabing with you for a year. Basically "everyone who applied sucks, fuck off".

>> No.19256083

>>19255236
>5 kuzuha
ahhhh kuzuha

>> No.19256130

>>19255947
They don't.

>> No.19256158

>>19255833
>Why hold open auditions then?
Free advertisement

>> No.19256169

>>19255947
They tried with the first 3 waves and didn't make much a crack in the market. I'm sure there will be mixed gender waves in the future but you can't expect them to keep bashing their head against the wall. Whoever is running the show now seems to have gotten very realistic and scaled down unsuccessful projects like ID/KR.

>> No.19256208

>>19254980
Choco almost 15k holy shit

>> No.19256222

>>19255947
Hololive dominates the male audience, there's no point for them to bruteforce there

>> No.19256322

>>19248198
To me the lyrics were only a problem on the first couple listens. The song is pretty good otherwise but I understand that the lyrics leave an awkward first impression and that's pretty bad for numbers. Her channel doesn't get recommended much. The Topic version of Here Comes Hope has better growth than the MV, for example, so she'll always be fighting against that.

>> No.19256701

So is Stuck in the abyss the first Nijien song that is not boosted by ads? I saw some teaser ads but that’s it, there seems to be no ads for the mv. Looking at the like to views ratio, it looks reasonable

>> No.19256741

>>19254980
Man, even if Russia launch their nukes tomorrow, at least I will die knowing that there's a day with Niji top 5

>> No.19256830

>>19248198
Sparks of Joy is such an underrated song. i kinda don't get why it has such an abysmal growth, though i believe it could had been supported if it had a full animated MV like Q.

>> No.19256869

>>19256701
Perhaps they felt they didn't need to this time based on analytics. We'll know for sure in a few days if they ordered any ads or not though.

>> No.19256874

>>19256741
How fucking new?
When did you start watching vtuber?

>> No.19256876

>>19249655
If she was playing it in a free slot she might have got close to 10k. The fact it could hold as much people as it did in a pretty crowed spot was impressive.

>> No.19256893

>>19256701
It happens on the second day or third day like ethyria or Luxiem

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>>19255149
>merise rebranded to neo porte
that sounds like the french version of newport. what kind of fucking name is that?

>> No.19256955

>>19249042
Viet here
I'd say 90% Holo, 5% Niji, the rest is our own Chuubas
Our taste in 2D culture is vanilla asf, so people will mostly flock to what's trending (Which is well, Holo) but we also try to have our own things going as well

>> No.19257175

>>19255387
This is the most retarded rrat on this board, and you should be ashamed of yourself for repeating it.

>> No.19257207

I hope someone creates a chuuba model that's simplistic and easily customizable. It doesn't need to have fancy add-ons. Just black hair and shirt, but every week, the model can change into a new outfit. A street jacket, a hoodie, an oversize shirt, no shirt etc. The hair could also be easily changed. Vtuber models should be an art imo, and it needs to be creative instead of adding cool visual effects.

>> No.19257262

Elden Ring is reclining.

>> No.19257276

>>19256911
It literally means new door in spanish if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.19257300

>>19257276
Porte is not spanish and neo is latin

>> No.19257301

/#/ is declining.

>> No.19257312

>>19255149
Huh
Did they say why?

>> No.19257344

Since it's pretty quiet now
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/t2q0al/achans_birthday_2022/

A-chan will have HER OWN announcement in this month's radio shows on the Holo main ch

>> No.19257422

>>19257344
After she took Aloe's place on Gen 5 merch I can genuinely see A-Chan taking over the main channel and becoming a chuuba by her own merit

>> No.19257487

>>19255741
Seems like even some long time fandead think she has gone to far. You could see a couple of them whaling on Chloe the other day. Seems they have moved on. Rushia has become to toxic for even her most loyal supporters.

>> No.19257538

> Koyo moving
oh damn... I hope she doesn't lose too much of her audience

>> No.19257549

>>19255387
I don't think Shibuya Hal is that stupid anon.

>> No.19257602

>>19257487
Sunken cost fallacy is a thing.
Some of her gachis will stick around.

>> No.19257651

>>19256322
She needs to do a fucking popular cover song to hook the algorithm. Luckily she started talking about this on her zatsu yesterday so I guess she realizes it. She has made One Last Kiss her song through her amazing karaoke performances of it. If she released a cover of that it would do very well and just might be the break that she needs.

She is a weird case though. Her stream numbers are pretty good and her karaoke streams do great. She has a lo lt of dedicated clippers too that get thousands of views on all of their IRyS clips. IRyS is legit pretty popular but nobody listens to her music. Its weird.

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>>19257487

>> No.19257667

>>19257262
Nobody want to fucking watch Elden Ring. If they like it they would be playing it already instead of watching someone else play

>> No.19257762

>>19257660
>4chan shit posts
I'm talking about her actual fandead. Not a bunch of faggots from here.

>> No.19257770

>>19257538
The take-home pay must be really good if almost all HoloX moving after their first payday.

>> No.19257796

>>19257660
>Anonymous Image Board

>> No.19257800

>>19257762
Go check Orca's handler, then.

>> No.19257811

>>19257602
>Some of her gachis will stick around.
You have to factor the fact many people are not attached to the VA but to the "whole package" (VA + character).

Some of couse will follow Mikeneko but many onboarded through Hololive and their oshi is Rushia, not Mike

>> No.19257882

>>19257811
Numbers will be smaller, but she'll still have enough gachis too support her streaming life style.

>> No.19257907

>>19257770
Anon, let's put it this way. La+ got 10k+ members based on her own words (Take the number we think she got, double it. We know she had 7k members on her opening stream). Throw in ad rev + their cut of SCs + their cut from comiket merch etc.
They can easily afford to move to better locations that have more stable internet, are closer to HQ/other holomem, etc. You get the picture.

>> No.19257920

>>19257660
Punished Fandead arc

>> No.19258091

>>19255236
>* waiting room number, doesn't get on the tally
wasn't the "waiting room #" tracked in holostats and vrabi though, indicating that that number was tracked while the stream was live?

>> No.19258176

>>19257907
Hmm wonder what laplus member post interaction % is if she has about 10k members might help to spitball general numbers for other holos

>> No.19258196

>>19249284
unlike Bora though, Nari still does Korean language streams on Twitch

>> No.19258260

>>19257770
Pretty much every holo at least mid tier makes enough bank to live comfortably

Even some "low tier" holos (in terms of CCV) like Sora definitely make enough through their music and merch and events

>> No.19258382

>>19257882
>she'll still have enough gachis too support her streaming life style.
She could but the question is
> for how long

>> No.19258421

>>19258091
I watched the stream and checked the biggest non "waiting for X to start" number, that is also on Holostats final datapoint

>> No.19258457 [SPOILER] 

>>19257422
>Eventually mogging everyone at Hololive in terms of total views due to the various songs and Hologra episodes
A-CHAN I KNEEL!

>> No.19258477

>>19257301
declining what?

>> No.19258480

>>19247472
Sex thumbnail

>> No.19258782

>>19258421
Im pretty sure the 'x watching now' count also shows around 157k for a few second when the stream went live.
Anyone have any screenshots? The distinction is important imo since had the actual peak of the livestream be the beginning of the stream (say maybe a lot of viewers paused/closed the stream when they realized they couldn't watch their reaction after all), I think the number for that few second of the live stream should be valid to be considered as peak.

>> No.19258858

>>19258782
Too much work for no gain, without any evidence you guys will have to take the chart result for the actual result

>> No.19258925

does anyone here have a link the version of "Hello, Morning" that oyabun used at the very end? The one that sounded super orchestral.

>> No.19258962

>>19255256
Is that even kuzuha? That pic looks more like kamito ngl

>> No.19258984

>A-Chan announcement will be that she will be taking over Rushia slot on Gen 3
PREDICTIONS?

>> No.19259018

>>19256068
who cares? they're 2 views, their seething amounts to nothing unless they go rl schizo.

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>>19255236
>>19255457

>> No.19259189

>>19257344
Retiring lets gooo

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Reminder Pekora always know what she is doing
Never doubt her

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>>19258858
>https://vrabi.ml/video/ppOu2U4SByQ
Just checked vrabi's tracker for the stream. It says the stream started at 22:48:51JST whereas the 157k peak timestamp was at 22:49:XXJST. Unless their timestamp are inaccurate, I believe this is a good enough evidence that the 157k figure is recorded after the stream went live.

>> No.19259294

>>19257207
You just descibe roboco. She has a lot of accessories and casual wear that she actually uses ofthen rather than once in a blue moon for gimmicks

>> No.19259334

>>19259079
I never can take any of his tweets seriously.
I woke up this morning, scrolled through my TL a few seconds, and noticed a "VIRTUAL YOUTUBERS" topic with this tweet https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1497875133520035841?s=20&t=5yxIrXpixgrPnuPMXvkcRg at 23k likes within 40 min.
That's insane for no reason.
>>19259206
Never understood that tweet either.

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>>19257301
hey, man

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>>19257907
And yet, the fucking bratt still use her temple stolen wifi! She really need correction!

>> No.19259474

>>19258382
if the gachi support dwindles, the wisest option is to invest the millions she have into a business. like a maid cafe business.

>> No.19259487

>>19259334
It’s just Pekora talking about her morning. Not even her weirdest tweet

>> No.19259504

>>19258260
Anon... ccv number aside, sora is probably that make the most out of them. Girl probably has some share of cover's stock

>> No.19259529

>>19259474
If she was smart enough to put her money to good use she would be smart enough not to be fired for cause for leaking

>> No.19259533

>>19259504
uh, no, what makes you think that?

>> No.19259569

Has anyone /here/ tried scraping music output (#of OG songs, covers and their views on avg.) numbers from Holo/Niji and see where they stand within the industry?

Would be a good indicator of how good they are doing their "job".

>> No.19259580

>>19259206
Clever bunny is clearly investing all her earnings. What type of investments do you think she would go for /#/ ?

>> No.19259586

>>19258925
Go ask >>>/vsinger/
Those pirates have everything

>> No.19259636

>>19259504
>>19259533
Odd that she got paid more just to keep being with Cover. After all, losing you first talent, the one who started it all, is not a good sight

>> No.19259685

>>19259580
Government Bonds in developing countries, easy 10%+ p.a. gov-backed coupons. She just needs to know a local or two for the paperworks.

>> No.19259693

>>19259504
I doubt that, unless she gets 100 % from the concerts she's does.

>> No.19259704
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19259704

>>19255947
EASY
effeminate scantily-clad shota

>> No.19259729

>>19259533
>>19259693
Bruh.. i followed her from 2018 and she's been on many projects, events, concerts, tv shows, tv series, promotions, ads, and this not including her salary as The fricking poster girl of cover corps. AND Hololive. The girl makes banks and probably sleep on top of benjamins or whatever the ¥'s equivalent is

>> No.19259743

>>19257344
She's pregnant

>> No.19259867

>>19258858
Do you have counter evidence that 157k wasn't recorded and that the peak was 95k? All the websites we use caught 157k as peak.

>> No.19260064

>>19255236
>2x: Choco
Whats

>> No.19260108

>>19260064
Yep. B-day + a strong collab on a normal day. Sometimes it just happens.

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[News] Love Live is also hopping on the vtuber bandwagon by launching a "Virtual School Idol" Project by Fall this year!
https://twitter.com/liellasuperstar/status/1498002427466895365?s=21
(no official source yet aside from magazine scans)

>> No.19260276

>>19260125
I see you too saw the other thread.
Well, that'll certainly be interesting, Sony's project is likely to debut sometime this year, and now we have this.

>> No.19260390

>>19259729
But you also assume that she has a big cut compared to others. And anything before 2020 can basically be ignored, the company was not a money printer in the same way and had way to little to go around. She might have a higher salary then other talent, but that doesn't say much since the salary for the other talent seems to have been pretty pitiful. I am not doubting that she has made money and that she might gain a higher profit on her projects compared to other talents, but she isn't a raw money maker due to her audience being smaller then the big names. Unless you believe she also gets a cut on what all the other talent does?

>> No.19260391

>>19251461
John Titor-chama

>> No.19260414

>>19259743
Sorry about that, I refuse to pull out on principle.

>> No.19260419

>>19260276
I'm also interested if they'll start an all-new vtuber trend of having publicly-disclosed seiyuus (Love Live is famous for focusing on the seiyuu activities too), or they'll stick with tradition and hide the talents under a virtual avatar.

>> No.19260644

>>19260125
I hate that they shot themselves on the leg all those years ago by ending u's just like that. A hex upon them...

>> No.19260806

>>19260419
Gah. That could make things a little tricky huh. If they're doing things properly for vtubing, the won't disclose anything and we'll just 'pretend' they're entirely virtual is my best guess. Otherwise I don't see why they'd bother with the vtubing spiel instead of just having a new generation.

>> No.19260814

>>19248079
don't forget Bubi at 38k

>> No.19260920

>>19250336
Are you a newfag? Debuts and guraduations has always been included

>> No.19260936

>>19260644
making Muse graduate at the peak of the franchise was their biggest mistake really. this caused tribalfagging within the franchise because the muse loyalists refused to accept the newer groups because their beloved idols were taken away from them too soon.

>> No.19260978

>>19260920
Stop replying to bait anon

>> No.19261023

>>19260390
Nigga she still on the same grind she was years ago and has as much as the other girls in term of product collabs and ads The only think she lacks are her own personalized merchs which understandable since that'll just put extra work for her already full schedules, and sponsorship stream, which can be replaced with many partnership she still on (that are now incline) from the olden days

>> No.19261360

>>19247628
>>19246170
they seem to be trying to sell him as a heel.

>> No.19261745

>>19254563
Didn't Shabby just make a separate kson sub channel like Dran and spent most of their time there?

>> No.19262364

>>19260806
maybe it'll be just another 22/7

>> No.19262380

>>19260806
On the flip side, this would alienate the fanbase too because like i said, LL is known for its focus on the seiyuu activities and they aren't known for being accepting to status quo changes. they'll be weirded out by by virtual avatars being puppeted by faceless people.

>> No.19262600

>>19262364
>>19262380
Good points, we'll see how things shape up once they debut, we have too little info right now.

>> No.19262779

Since people are talking about Love Live, and these are dead hours, which anime is more "real" regarding idols?

>> No.19262894

>>19262779
Enstars. i heard it has lots of backstabbing plots there. there's also Wake Up Girls if you want an ultra-realistic take in idol anime.

>> No.19262995

>>19262894
Enstars has an anime?

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>>19262779
>which anime is more "real" regarding idols?
It's not "real" in the sense it reflects the industry but these episodes of Kakegurui would validate all rrats about idols (including vtuber idols) and their relationship with their fans.

https://zoro.to/watch/kakegurui-compulsive-gambler-1677?ep=22099
https://zoro.to/watch/kakegurui-compulsive-gambler-1677?ep=22100

These two episodes could easily be about Sora and A-Chan. You can watch the two episodes without picking the whole anime up, it may even make them more enjoyable this way

> tl;dr: Rushia loses a bet and as punishment she has to disclose everything she said about her gachi and about MafuMafu to her biggest gachi at the end of a live (live live, not internet live but in person live)

>> No.19263289

>>19262779
Not an anime, but Oshi no Ko the manga is gold.

>> No.19263331

>>19255202
*some or most, not all.

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