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why do they have to go as far as deleting her youtube?
none of the rrats that she doxxed others or did anything actually that bad appear to be true.
she had a menhera breakdown and shared too much with a drama faggot, thats enough for them to flip the switch and pretend like she never existed. isnt that a bit far?
after all she did for hololive, she makes one mistake and this happens?
and before you claim she doxxed others or other extreme rrats like that, you may do so on the one condition you post proof.

>> No.19067926

don't bother, these gossip girls will just tell you to do your reps. 95% of them probably haven't seen this 'proof' either, they just parrot what they see other anons saying and use it to fuel the rrats.

>> No.19068024

>>19067901
>>19067926
I hope you hikikomori fags find a real government job one day, break an NDA for shits and giggles, then get fucked when your finances get nuked by a lawsuit and you get your asses thrown in jail

>> No.19068032

>>19067901
The archive deletion stuff, is a bit more a Japanese culture thing.
It has a bit to do with not being able to be accused of making money (direct or indirectly) with that talent anymore. Also they also have a fetish for stuff that has limited availability.
Don't try to understand it, it's dumb, but it won't change.

>> No.19068037

>>19067901
Be happy, she may give her gachis thank you video with her 3D form.

>> No.19068096

Women suffer from the consequences of their actions outside of your English speaking shitholes and there's nothing you can ever do about it.

>> No.19068097

breaking NDAs is pretty fucking serious
and yes, it's the kind of "one mistake" that you don't get to make twice

>> No.19068098

Your oshi is dead you know, you can blame Cover all you want but it won't change the fact she fucked up.
You can cope all you want but Rushia is dead, not retired.

>> No.19068119

>>19067901
>none of the rrats that she doxxed others or did anything actually that bad appear to be true.
I hope this was the case but sadly it isn't.

>> No.19068163

>Low key spoon feed me thread.

>> No.19068180

>>19068024
if thats the case, then the illusion that they are all friends, making lets play videos for fun etc is totally gone. actually flare said exactly this.
im sure thats the point you are trying to make and I agree if it is true, too. but thats what im saying, they cant pretend they care for their talents and make the CEO a funny meme they make minecraft creations and art of, then turn around and ruthlessly dispose of anyone who seems like a liability.
I agree with you, thats the point.
its ruthless and unfair to fire here like they did, even though it is understandable from a company point of view. mori has a right to be scared too, I would have though her trash taste appearances and everything like that was worse than what rushia did, but I guess its because mori is not japanese that she got away with it.

>> No.19068203

>>19067901
Watame not crying and cancelling her streams is all the proof I need.
Be glad Rushia didn't do this while having a government job, because she'd be in jail.

>> No.19068217

>>19067901
My fellow fandeads, how much must I donate to get an exclusive thank-you message?

>> No.19068222

>>19068163
I would say you are the one getting spoonfed here retard, I am telling you the rrats are not true. the proof is the jp keemstars video, and covers statement, it looks as if she really was fired for something relatively minor.
>>19068203
yeah, its all the proof you need that she was faking it with coco and with all the other time she cries, because it gets her akasupas.

>> No.19068249

>>19068222
Ogey schizo, keep saying that to yourself.

>> No.19068316

>>19067901
>Archives stays
"REEEEEE HOW DARE THEY AFTER THEY FIRED HER?"
>Archives deleted
"REEEE THEY'VE GONE TOO FAR! THERE'S NO NEED TO DELETE HER ACHIVES"

>> No.19068350

>>19068316
absolutely nobody would say that if the archives stayed except some japanese antis

>> No.19068368

>>19067926
the other jp holomems have seen what she leaked.
the other jp holomems have then decided not to defend her.

that's all i need to know.

>> No.19068474

>>19068222
>I didnt see the leaks therefore they don't exist
Could be that the guy she leaked to just kept it to himself lest he get sued intk the ground. A leak's a leak, whether to just one outsider or the whole public.

>> No.19068481

>>19067901
In Japan the the most important rule when working in a company is to not dishonor your company. Basically don't embarrass the family! If you do then your family is obligated to disown you so that your shame won't won't be associated the other members of your group.

>> No.19068602

>>19068222
Korekore may be a Japs Keemstar but he's not retarded enough to leak the infos and risk getting sued by Cover, unlike you, fancuck.

>> No.19068620
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>>19068024
I thought get why you wagies are flipping for joy defending NDA. Imagine proudly signing a "don't piss off your boss or your life will be ruined" contract because it gives you some blood-brother sense of importance to the company. No wonder /biz/ laughs it you fucks.

>> No.19068624

>>19067901
They have zero proof, its just retarded made up bullshit like Flare being raped so she hates her now even in the Nip Keemstar vid it's just shit relating to Rushia so those EOPs are bullying him over what she asked for
I just don't fucking care anymore, Rushia is better off now since she had to dox herself to end boyfriend rrats cause Cover does nothing as usual and she will retain her fanbase considering she put up a 12 second black screen vid that got 1mil and Cover is seen as the bad guys so who cares anymore

>> No.19068807

>>19067901
Breach of contract.
It's probably the standard procedure when such a thing happens.

>> No.19068828

>>19067901
Because she deserves it.

>> No.19068858

>>19067901
Because she doxxed her goddamn co-workers to some drama faggot who only didn't leak it because he doesn't want to face lawsuit, but he threw her under the bus to said company so that he can avoid the lawyers.
She's a shitbag non-entity because she's an idiot. Many such cases, very sad.

>> No.19068966

>>19068024
>break an NDA for shits and giggles,
The fuck you smoking on, retard??
She's fucking panicking and accidentally oversharing some info that probably isn't that much important for a fucking entertainment company. it's not like she give away the company tech secret or any high-profile data, heck i doubt she even had any access to that info.

Nigger like you just repeating words like these over and over since yesterday.

>> No.19068981

>>19067901
I assume that the leaks contained info about non-streamers.
Management and such, you know the people that deside who gets fired and who gets to stay and have no interest in drama or internet culture.

>> No.19068982

>>19067901
Only evidence is she doxxed herself, everything else is just headcanon
they of course are just not gonna release any evidence so we only have schizo rrats to assume what it was

>> No.19069011

>>19068858
Where is the proof, fag?

>> No.19069069

>>19068982
Kek, They made up their own justification to hate her!
I'm not sure why they even want to hate her in the first place...

>> No.19069177

>>19068620
NDAs are an important part of the business world unless you feel like having your employees ratting out all your company secrets to a competitor for a quick paycheck. As well as keeping the private information of other employees safe so that exactly this situation doesn't happen with some psycho menhera doing your employees shit up. Yes they are sometimes used predatorily but you know what you fucking signed.

>> No.19069219 [DELETED] 

>>19068966
you obviously never worked at a company except for being a wage slave, let me spoon feed you retard.

even if the best case sscenario happened (she shared on accident) she still need to be fired, otherwise, other talent or even staff could maliciously start leaking stuff and the precedent for "special treatment" and can sue cover if they get punished.

first rule as a HR manager,
assume every employee has the potential to fuck you up if they have the chance.

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>>19068858
Why are you pushing that 5chan rrat so hard faggot?

>> No.19069257

>>19068966
No one knows what she shared, the point is that it couldn't have been a little tiny honest menhera mistake because cover definitely wants to keep their top fucking earner raking them in millions. They didn't even politely graduate her and fuck all of the holos showed sympathy. She fucked up big time and is probably lucky to not be sitting in a court room.

>> No.19069380

>>19068966
you obviously never worked at a company except for being a wage slave, let me spoon feed you retard.
even if the best case sscenario happened (she shared on accident) she still need to be fired, otherwise, other talent or even staff could maliciously start leaking stuff and the precedent for "special treatment" will be set if they fire someone else and they can sue cover.
first rule as a HR manager,
assume every employee has the potential to fuck you up if they have the chance.

>> No.19069399

>>19069257
You know that SC earnings mean nothing right? It's small %

>> No.19069481

>>19069399
Bullshit.

>> No.19069482

>>19069011
and how are you supposed to get the proof they had to investigate for days to get? obviously isnt going to come out and if they are using for a contract breach its obviously water tight.

>> No.19069587

>>19068368
>the other jp holomems have seen what she leaked.
proof?
>the other jp holomems have then decided not to defend her.
proof?

>> No.19069632

>>19069482
obviously but, what she leaked is not public knowledge

>> No.19069747

>>19067901
They can go even further
delete all her buildings in hololive minecraft server

>> No.19069767

>>19068620
No one is proud of it lmao, you signed the contract. You obey it, it is that simple.
Retard

>> No.19069775

>>19069747
bury them, like some sort of cursed tomb. Only to be excavated by Gen 9 in the distant future

>> No.19069782

>>19069587
the speculation is that pekora said that they had an emergency meeting about rushia.
so someone created rrats that covers emergancy meeting was them telling all the talents that rushia has been doxxing them, or something like that.
they clearly had a meeting about her graduation along with instructions to not talk about it unless approved. its unlikely they would even tell the other members what exactly she did.
these retards just believe rrats on 4chan are proof and its getting sad now.
the most convincing speculation, to me personally, is haachama who tweeted something about stepping in dog poop. she clearly got told to continue as normal, and it makes me wonder why she followed that so easily. perhaps this is a sign they told everyone what rushia did, but again, no proof at all and thats completely from my ass since rushia was getting so much support from haachama, including making rice.

>> No.19069804

>>19068097
>>19068098
yeah, but it's not like she would be getting any money out of it. at least the stuff on the main channel.

>> No.19069833

>>19067901
Perhaps their company behold such policies that applies to all other idols?

>> No.19069875

>>19069782
>the most convincing speculation, to me personally, is haachama who tweeted something about stepping in dog poop

Yes, that activated my neurons too.

>> No.19069888

>>19069011
The problem isn't the proof, retard. they realized Rushia leaked corpo info to the outside that's enough.
Korefat can get away with it because he doesn't show anything related to it on his channel and they can't sue him either since he is not the one asking for it (in fact he tell cover about it) but rushia is.
In the end, wether you likes it or not, it is Rushia's mistake and she meets the consequences

>> No.19069921

>>19069747
>server
They wouldnt....

>> No.19069934

>>19067901
I hope she continues to fuck up and Cover sues her ass.

>> No.19069944

>>19069782
>the speculation is that pekora said that they had an emergency meeting about rushia.
when was this? or link?
it's pretty obvious that they kind of knew ahead of time from everyone's lack of emotion. also shion roommate tweeted on the 15th that she hoped everyone was happier than she was right then. it's depreshion though so we didn't think anything of it. then again, Pekora Marine and Kanata were still upset.

As for haato, the video she posted could've actually been read as mocking rushia, not supporting her.

>> No.19069959

>>19069934
I hope she dies

>> No.19069984

>>19069921
they probably will...

>> No.19069986

>>19069069
If it's made up Rushia can sue them into the ground for wrongful termination and defamation you retard. If they were this specific in the statement they are 100% prepared to defend it in court.

>> No.19069996

>>19069944
I hate to say do your reps since thats what all non proof havers are doing rn, but I didnt save the image or remember the threads, but she said in a pre-stream chat message "sorry to delay but I got told we are having emergancy meeting, stream delayed until 22" or something like that.

>> No.19070021

>>19069934
Cover is too much of a lazy cucked company to fight off small peen Chinamen and people that dox their talent on a daily basis they won't do shit as usual

>> No.19070034

>>19069944
About the emergency meeting, it is before the 3rd gen announcement occurred on her channel. No one actually knows what they are talking but the 3rd gen came after it kinda implied the relation

>> No.19070050

>>19069986
yes but there's a difference between firing her for leaking her info to kore and firing her for leaking everyone's info to kore. in both cases she obviously gets axed for policy breach but due to everyone's reactions to it everyone is assuming that she tried to fuck them all over. but we don't have any proof of that. and if that were true, marine pekora and kanata wouldn't have been sad over it.

>> No.19070066

>>19068966
Maybe you never smoked enough, because not even we are aware of the full details of the information she had shared but it was very damaging.

>> No.19070085

>none of the rrats that she doxxed others or did anything actually that bad appear to be true.
That's not a fucking rrat, it's an official statement from the company. Why the fuck would they make that up? To hide some other, sinister reason they have for firing her? It would be completely unnecessary and wasteful to fire her over the boyfriend allegations, that actually was just a rrat without any conclusive proof that could have been easily denied, absolutely not worth firing their top earner over it. They went this far because she did something to warrant it.

>> No.19070113

>>19070085
then why did kanata marine and pekora shed tears over her if she's evil and tried to fuck them all?

>> No.19070137

>>19070085
their statement is about NDA which could be anything, it could even be as simple as saying on her room account that she is rushia, since that is technically breaking her contract. mori said this on her roommate stream that she is completely not allowed to talk about hololive on her roommate accounts, plus this is well known for ages anyway. I dont know if that counts as NDA because im a brainlet in that regard, but they never mentioned doxxing in official statements.

>> No.19070139

>>19069944
>As for haato, the video she posted could've actually been read as mocking rushia, not supporting her.
She was supporting her anon, Chammers usually tries to support all her friends as we seen with Coco and Kanata

>> No.19070145

How long will it be before a "brand new" independent green haired GFE vtuber pops up and rockets to over a million subs overnight?

>> No.19070159

>>19070113
Maybe they liked her. This is obviously a sad situation.

>> No.19070163

>>19070050
I don't know what CoverCorp informed the members about Rushia's leaking of information, but it was also probably limited to an extent so that their image of Rushia wouldn't change drastically

>> No.19070173

>>19070113
Because they are pretty sensitive women? Many girls will cry for any reason. You should know better than to try to use logic with talking about women's emotions.

>> No.19070197

>>19070113
Bro, do you even know psychology, even if someone tried to fuck you over, you can still cry over it when you think about your past relationships. It's called recollecting dumbass

>> No.19070223

>>19070113
it could just be they were close, marine was definitely closed with rushia. they talked about doing stuff off stream many times. not sure about pekora or kanata. flares reaction is a little suspicious to me, but who knows what is going on with them behind the scenes. flare pretty much said that they were never really friends which is just a cold thing to say to someone already going through a lot, if rushia really was innocent.

>> No.19070230

>>19070139
maybe. that was on 2/13 so they might not have known yet.

>> No.19070252

>>19070085
The statement doesn't say anything about doxxing. If they wanted to say doxxing they would've said personal identifiable information or something like that. In any normal company their statement could be interpreted as that she leaked intellectual property, not doxxing.

>> No.19070273

>>19070223
>flare pretty much said that they were never really friends
I want to see your source because I genuinely am demanding some voice audio to fulfill my sadistic urges

>> No.19070288

>>19070113
What she did she clearly did it out of stupidity and not malice. People can feel sad for friends even if you know they fucked up.

>> No.19070297

>>19070145
Never. Rushia couldn't be kept from fucking up even with corpo-supplied tard wranglers. You think she'll be able to do it on her own?

>> No.19070318

>>19069944
haachama was not mocking rushia. the meme about her making rice (she tweeted to one of rushias sad tweets "im going to make rice" with a strong bicep emoji) sounds to me like she was supporting rushia irl. maybe she wasnt and it was just like a gesture, "ill make rice for you if I could!" or something.

>> No.19070324

>>19069380
NDAs are often non-enforceable in court since they're pseudo legal bullshit meant to scare employees unwilling to go to court

>> No.19070351

>>19070297
>even with corpo-supplied tard wranglers

Let's be honest, they aren't exactly providing the cream of the crop yard wranglers either...

>> No.19070374

>>19070297
>start youtube channel
>enable superchats
>let the simpbux roll in
>don't share those muns with corporate

Gosh, it all sounds so complicated.

>> No.19070397

>>19070273
I'm pretty sure theyre reaching a by
It, but it would be the Holotalk that Flare had with Kiara. It was odd how she responded to the question of gen unity, but given what we know now that Rushia was on the way out, her answer could be less 'we were never friends' and more 'gotta dodge the question and not leak that she's fired'.

>> No.19070402

>>19070374
This. I swear to god that guy was stupid to think it was that complicated

>> No.19070412

>>19070163
so if the others don't know exactly how bad it was, why are they acting so indifferent?
>>19070173
So everyone else is on board with hating her except those 3, who despite Rushia's evil actions still cry over her leaving? I don't buy it.
>>19070197
Are you retarded? Everyone's logic to the girls' responses is either that they clearly hate her now or that they're upset but perfectly hiding it. Black and white. Marine Pekora and Kanata run counter to that. Even with your retarded psycho bullshit there should be more than just those 3. A lot of them had good times with her, I would expect tears, especially from criers like Watame.

>> No.19070420

>>19069399
I guess you're gonna say merch sales mean nothing too, right?

>> No.19070439

>>19070273
He's probably talking about the holotalk from last week when Flare said that Gen 3 are not actually that close.

>> No.19070440

Official statement that Cover could get sued for if there's a single word of libel in it
>This is suspicious and I don't buy it
Well documented /jp/ series of events that line up with the official statement
>This is just a crazy rrat with no proof

>> No.19070441
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Thoughts, /vt/?

>> No.19070442

>>19068180
>he doesn't know about the scripts that are shared in discord previous all the collabs
>he doesn't know that managers send them messages with talk points and what they should say when they are streaming

>> No.19070456

>>19070197
Bullshit armchair phycology

>> No.19070463

>>19070397
>more 'gotta dodge the question and not leak that she's fired'.
Yeah that will do it

>> No.19070497

>>19070441
That you should go back to twitter/reddit/whatever shit hole you crawled out of.

>> No.19070529

>>19070440
who said there's libel in it? it's vague enough to apply to lots of things and all they need is one example, no matter how big or small, to be correct about it.

>> No.19070567

>>19068180
Mori's manager was present at both Trash Taste podcasts to give her a 'shut the fuck up' gesture if she needed to. I also believe Calli checks all her contracts and NDAs to the absolute letter so that she knows what she can get away with.

>> No.19070606

>>19070442
I have worked around the entertainment industry, I know that every little thing is vaguely scripted but its not as bad as you imagine. usually its just a list of topics to fall back on if things get quiet and sometimes they are completely ignored if the conditions are good. it doesnt necessarily mean the cover managers are pulling the strings that much.
but now, who knows? cover could be black company after all

>> No.19070623

>>19070529
Except they stated a fair few specifics like this has been going on for a while, multiple counts of leaking, and even that some of it was falsehoods and some of it was provably damaging to them. If any one of these were false, Rushia could sue.

>> No.19070637

>>19069399
Retard, it means something to them. Coco has mentioned things about this before, Cover got 50% on what they got on stream after youtube cut which is:
30% cut from youtube
35% talents
35% Cover

>> No.19070642

>>19070374
Don't even have to worry about the contract anymore too. Like anyone actually gives a shit about seeing them IRL.

>> No.19070699

>>19070441
Cringe to the bone, Go back to redit

>> No.19070710

>>19070623
"a while" can be 2 weeks or 2 months. it's also as simple as her telling mafu about her work day or what another girl said to her.

>> No.19070766

>>19068096
Based and redpilled

>> No.19070767

>>19070113
t. Caveman who never seen a film
Goddamn, is it that hard to act? Especially when you don't need to show your expression to the camera? They are an experienced vtuber goddamn it, not a Mcdonald worker

>> No.19070794

>>19070699
Make me. The cowards locked the place down anyway.

>> No.19070836

>>19070794
Go to the retard one then, the okhololive whatever

>> No.19070840

>>19070767
why bother fake crying at all then if everyone else is going cold shoulder? doesn't make sense

>> No.19070855

>>19070529
There's nothing vague about "she leaked confidential information". Either it's true or not. If it's true she legally gets the boot on first infraction. If it's not she can sue them for millions. It's simple as that. Everyting else is a cherry on top.

>> No.19070895

>>19070855
>Rushia was the mole leaking info all along

>> No.19070919

>>19070441
I think it is good but a slight improvement is maybe mori could be raping rushia, else it sucks

>> No.19070931

>>19067901
being terminated for breaking the nda was the pretext, and although rushia actually did violate her contact, this is the first time a holomem was terminated for that alone. there have been suspensions in the past for this reason. if we assume that cover is telling the truth, then there is compromising information that cover felt was severe enough to fire rushia over, and we will most likely never come across that information. anyone who claims to know it won't have evidence to support their claim without disclosing it, and if they happen to so, then they'll be wide open to a lawsuit from cover. this scenario is a dead end.

I think rushia just became too much of a liability these past couple of weeks in cover's eyes given her mental instability and decided to cut her off for the one thing she did at the end alone. using a blanket statement like breach of nda without needing to elaborate further is convenience for them.

>> No.19070961

>>19070324
No that's bullshit. You 100% can get sued for breaking your NDA. You will not find a shortage of court cases you can look through that are companies sueing another party for breach of contract.

>> No.19070981

Rushia got kicked because she helped Mel's manager rape her and then leaked the video to perfectdark.

>> No.19071012

>>19070981
"trust me guys"

>> No.19071013

>>19070961
You can be sued for anything, doesn't mean you will win. You usually will though since companies have more money to throw at the court and that matters more than actual laws.

>> No.19071029

>>19070855
it's vague on how severe the leak is ala >>19070050

>> No.19071039

>>19070931
Considering the statement outright says she did it repeatedly, it's entirely possible she got multiple chances already.

>> No.19071110

>>19070931
>I think rushia just became too much of a liability these past couple of weeks in cover's eyes given her mental instability
That's a possibility I've also been thinking about and she is a prettty big inconvenience

>> No.19071121

>>19071039
repeatedly could also mean her saying some shit to mafu multiple times. not necessarily doxxing everyone's address and # of sex partners
>>19071013
plus a lot of cases settle out of court. don't know if that would include nda's though

>> No.19071134

>>19070961
I'm not sure how it is in japan but in the netherlands unless you can prove damages by gross negligence or malice, NDAs are meaningless

>> No.19071142

>>19071029
What difference does it make? A leak's a leak, and a leaker is proven to be untrustworthy and irresponsible to keep around more confidential info. She'd be lucky if she only leaked minor information because if it was major, she'd be liable for the potential damages caused by the leak and even orca can't save her from banktrupcy then.

>> No.19071245

>>19071142
all the difference?

>> No.19071257

>>19071134
You can get fired regardless. Now whether you get fucked for the damages caused is another issue.

>> No.19071282

>>19071245
Where? She still gets terminated for it. That's what we're seeing.

>> No.19071323

>>19071282
Are you retarded? you said yourself
>She'd be lucky if she only leaked minor information because if it was major, she'd be liable for the potential damages caused by the leak
that's a big fucking difference

>> No.19071400

>>19069996
>>19070034
>but she said in a pre-stream chat message "sorry to delay but I got told we are having emergancy meeting, stream delayed until 22" or something like that.
not seeing it, but chat also wasn't working when i first saw the stream so maybe it got wiped. this was before they added the EN translation

>> No.19071402

>>19071323
That's a hypothetical situation for the future that has nothing to do with the current reality of her being terminated because of a leak. Do you even follow the conversation?

>> No.19071430

>>19067901
It's because of bitch like her, abusing GFE retard, they are expected to be virgin maiden for god know why, even a fucking sucubus got harased for it after 1 week debut.
And getting rid of the top earner of your company can't never go bad for your career.

>> No.19071440

>>19071400
Your fucking delays and conspiracy theories, emergency meeting could be just fucking Marine hyperventilating...

>> No.19071494

>>19071430
And the worst part is Aloe is probably the most virgin hologirl out here kek

>> No.19071539

>>19071402
nigga I am the conversation. you wouldn't even be arguing about the size of the leak if it wasn't for me bringing it up.

>> No.19071562

>>19071494
I doubt Aloe is a virgin. Given how much a wreck she was and her situation, she has probably been raped by her father/mother's boyfriends at least once.

>> No.19071587

>>19067901
because of the termination, its part of the contract

>> No.19071592

>>19071440
sure? never said it didn't happen and never said what it was about either.

>>19071562
if she had then they would've gotten her out of there sooner, cops had already been called due to physical abuse against her brother. he got to go live elsewhere

>> No.19071624

Anyone has the compilation of the evidence for her and mofu2 living together? I've saw some picture about a cup but I never saved it.

>> No.19071625

>>19071592
Being beaten is a lot easier to spot than being raped.

>> No.19071692

>>19071625
i mean she hated both her dads if she was actually raped then a rape kit would pretty much solve her problems

>> No.19071701

>>19071562
Would explain her need for real sex :(

>> No.19071748

>>19070441
1k upboats on leddit

>> No.19071769

>>19071692
The she probably felt guilty and never reported it. Even more so if she was a lot younger when it happened.

>> No.19071858

>>19067901
it's how termination works, I actually wonder if they gave her graduation as an option but she was too much of an emotional wreck to stream or do anything, she mentioned being unable to make any decision that would imply there was something to decide I guess.

>> No.19071919

>>19067901
I kind of understand your point, but you have to remember that firing someone/libel is a much bigger deal in Japan. Cover would not do that unless they are 100% sure that they can defend it in court.

Also keep in mind that Rushia was one of their biggest money makers. Not firing her is in Cover's best interest. It must have been something bad enough that they felt they had no other choice.

>> No.19071944

>>19071769
well according to her, her actual dad left a long time ago, and her former step dad was actually nice when she was in middle school. so it can't be that.

>> No.19071979

>>19067901
Japan does not give any shit about mental health and thinks it’s a waste of time to deal with.

>> No.19072018

>>19071979
Because it is.

>> No.19072027

Never forget that her termination is Cover's fault. Cover didn't want to help her in any capacity. Everyone agrees that she fucked up for leaking shit to kore, no one thinks what it took for her to made that decision in the first place. She didn't found any solace in the company that's supposed to take care of her. She said it in her alts, they didn't want to hear any of it, they gave her the could shoulder from the beggining. They failed to give her any kind of emotional support so she didn't make rash decisions. She resorted to a fucking drama channel because no one else wanted to hear her.

>> No.19072034

>>19071919
>Cover would not do that unless they are 100% sure that they can defend it in court.
it doesn't have to be a lie. but there's a difference between her gossiping with mafu and her leaking everyone's name and address. her saying anything to mafu makes it a contract violation.
>Not firing her is in Cover's best interest.
yeah but as >>19070931 put it, her menhera breakdowns and panicking on top of the leak(s) could've made her too much of a liability even if they wanted to keep her.

>> No.19072085

>>19068180
how was it worse when she had permission to do it and followed the rules? If anything it's what she shares outside of those collabs with her drinking buddy sydney etc. that's where the real issues lie because she was almost chertainly venting to them hard about shit that TT fags had no business to know.

>> No.19072101

>>19072027
the only counter to this is in the 3rd gen stream Marine said they tried advising her or something. But you would think she would ask friends or management what to do before running to kore, so that kind of says a lot too...

>> No.19072157

>>19070441
Seing Aloe in the same level of Rushia make me seethe so hard, let her go in peace like hitomi chris

>> No.19072186

>>19072101
Honestly why the fuck would she seek help from a dramatuber and not even listening to your coworkers/friends? Something doesn't make sense for me desu

>> No.19072230

>>19072157
You can't even compare what Rushia means for Hololive with Chris

>> No.19072233

>>19072186
Because she was fucking him too. Duh.

>> No.19072318

>>19072034
Fair point. I hope some anons figure out what the actual reason is, but I feel like we will never know.

>> No.19072319

>>19072230
Because Cover did the good move by removing her early.

>> No.19072330

>>19067901
opchama are you seriously asking anons to post the doxx itself as your proof?

>> No.19072373

>>19072230
It's the same fucking thing. The only difference is the length of time.

>> No.19072395

>>19072186
they aren't her ''''freinds'''' and what the fuck can they do, she obviously wanted to put evidence out there instead of letting lies settle in
she should've just posted the shit herself instead of relying on that fag

>> No.19072514

>>19072395
>she should've just posted the shit herself instead of relying on that fag
And geting fired for breaking her contract ? come on she not this retarded.

>> No.19072515

>>19072186
either they didn't actually help her "enough" or they just said to wait and in her panicked state she couldn't because she knew she was losing fandead. idk what other reason makes sense.

>> No.19072601

>>19068222
Hey I get that you are upset but hey, hey, fuck you. Watame did nothing wrong.

>> No.19072630

>>19072186
He actually helped her a few times before.

>> No.19072643

>>19072514
so she isnt allowed to make a statement and cant roommate post to clear shit up, so she was just always fucked over a misunderstanding
good to know

>> No.19072794

>>19072643
making a "statement" would only bring more uneeded attention you dipshit

>> No.19072811

>>19072186
They aren't friends. It was an opportunity to get rid of a competitor to make their own slice of the pie bigger

>> No.19072816

>>19072794
oh yeah because the rrats definitely died off during the silence. just like with aloe

>> No.19072825

>>19072643
More like instead of being so goddamn impatient, wait a bit and let things settle a bit before making any sort of statement. Any chance of that happening went out the window as soon as she went to Kore with her shit though out of impatience and stupidity. Her genmates likely advised her to wait, but nope, she had to jump the gun and ignore their advice.
How would you feel if you have your friend advice that they should hold off on something for a bit, but instead they ran off, ignored your advice and then landed themselves (and potentially others) into a right mess?

>> No.19072826

>>19072643
She didn't need to make a statement in the first place. She needed to shut the fuck up and not do anything at all. Then a couple weeks later it would have blown over and it would be business as usual. Instead she went full retard and turned a minor setback into a shitstorm that got her fired.

>> No.19072853

>>19070931
>anyone who claims to know it won't have evidence to support their claim without disclosing it, and if they happen to so, then they'll be wide open to a lawsuit from cover
Nope. They can disclose it as long as they haven't signed an NDA with Cover. That information is unlikely to be legally protected trade secrets and even if it is, they can post it anonymously to 2ch or Wikileaks (assuming they accept it).
>I think rushia just became too much of a liability these past couple of weeks in cover's eyes given her mental instability and decided to cut her off
She's put all other GFEtubers at risk of losing gachikois. Granted Matsuri already disclosed that they're allowed to have bfs, but this is a way higher profile event.

>> No.19072854

>>19072794
yeah cause silence totally works out all the time right?

>> No.19072864

>>19072816
Aloe's primary problem was that her goddamn stepdad basically forced her yo quit via parental abuse.

>> No.19072889

>>19072825
people i advise always ignore my advice. i expect everyone to do the stupid thing anyway.

>> No.19072907

>>19072864
i'm aware but that wasn't known at the time and shit did not stop spreading just because she took a 2 week vacation

>> No.19072927

>>19072854
It's a lose-lose situation but it's still better than fanning the flames.
Besides, discord chatlogs only work as proof if the people want to believe what they're reading.

>> No.19072989

>>19072811
Well great fucking job cause now the whole company is affected. I'm being SARCASTIC WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY DO THAT ITS LITERALLY A LOSE-LOSE SCENARIO EVEN IF THEY WERE JEALOUS NO ONE IS THAT DUMB OF A FUCK

>> No.19073002

>>19072927
what other proof could she offer?

>> No.19073004
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19073004

>>19070441
I fixed it up a little bit, what do you guys think?

>> No.19073042

>>19073004
Not true, I liked the clips of her being Lushifer, her death metal voice and all the memories she had with the members. One final terrible ending isn't enough to sway me but she is still room temperature IQ by the way

>> No.19073121

I hope the manager or team handling Rushia gets fired too for not tard wrangling her and causing the company to lose one of their top earners

>> No.19073157

>>19070441
Cut out the last panel and you're good to go.

>> No.19073170

>>19073002
No matter how good her proof is she can't win in this scenario, is what I'm saying, Hardcore gachikoi will see her interaction with him and will continue having doubts when ever the slightest hint shows up.

>> No.19073222

why not just force her to graduate?

why nuke her whole channel, they're all wrapped up in the holo MCN now?

>> No.19073260

>>19070066
>because not even we are aware of the full details of the information she had shared but it was very damaging.
> but it was very damaging.
ok and where the fuck is this very damaging info? If it was so bad that then why isn't being tossed around by the ones she leaked it to? It be very easy to just start leaking it to other leakers and letting such "very damaging" info go haywire.
Yet theres no info anywhere being shown that damages Cover other than them tossing her under the bus.
If such info was so damaging then it would we should of seen it by now as the drama creators and haters love to do anything they can to damage big corps.

>> No.19073263

>>19073222
Because protocol, laws, also just like what people say if Hololive keeps her videos they technically still gain revenue when she was fired.

>> No.19073295

>>19073260
Because duh, they dealt with it privately, you really think you are living in a fictional world and every drama channel is a god and info will just show up on their laps? Are you a dog?

>> No.19073421

I see people shitting on Kore unknowing that she considered him a friend after he helped her with her abusive ex, pretty funny sideshow.

>> No.19073466

>>19068620
Judging from your English we kinda get it why youre unemployed

>> No.19073500

>>19073295
And yet how many major scandels happen and are posted to the fucking world on a regular basis? More so with the recent stupidioty with Nux and VShojou?
You blindly believe that leaked info that very damaging to the company wouldn't be tossed out for public view asap?
If such damaging info was actually leaked then it should be out there for the masses to see. Yet there's nothing, no proof shown at all, but peopel blindly stupidly believe Cover PR at face value.
The only dogs here are blind zealots like you.

>> No.19073547

>>19073500
>You blindly believe that leaked info that very damaging to the company wouldn't be tossed out for public view asap?
People are thankfully more intelligent than you are and understand that if they get caught publicising it they will end up in a boatload of legal trouble and potentially even jail.

>> No.19073563

>>19073170
right. which is why she tried so adamantly to refute it.

>> No.19073572

>>19072854
for rushia's case, yes, it definitely would've
what kind of statement would she even make to make the drama die down?
Apologize? Say it was a misunderstanding?
Remember she has to deal with her rabid gachikois.
Anything she says will fuel the fire between those who feel betrayed and those who stay loyal to her which will only prolong said drama.

>> No.19073590

>>19073263
not if they de-monetize

>> No.19073606

>>19073590
Proving that sort of shit in court is too much of a headache to warrant keeping the archives I suspect.

>> No.19073608

>>19067901
>violated contract terms
>get canned
What's so hard to understand about this? Before they are anime women, they are employees of a corporation.
As for deleting her channel, Cover risks exposing themselves to lawsuit by Rushia if they are still profiting from her works, so legally it's best to erase her channel.

>> No.19073610

>>19067901
>why do they have to go as far as deleting her youtube?
Because of potential disputes about future revenue. How about you use your fucking brain before posting in the future.

>> No.19073630

>>19073572
are you retarded? every gachi was waiting to hear her side of it up until those side account tweets last night. even the they coped saying it was probably fake up until the notice dropped

>>19073606
proving what shit? that they demonetized?

>> No.19073733

>>19073630
Not who you replied to but
If the videos are still up and demonetised you could still argue they profit from all the traffic and clicks to other holos so better just to unperson them.

>> No.19073740

>>19067901
Cancer needs to be cut out cleanly, otherwise it spreads.

Rushia was a whore, seeing guys despite being an idol, tainting the image of the entire company she was working for.

>> No.19073775

>>19073740
Yawn….

>> No.19073794

>>19073733
i think you could legalese that the "profit" would be monetary only, therefore not applicable. By that same logic Coco's videos still gain them stuff despite her being gone.

>>19073740
you do know Aki is married with kids right?

>> No.19073810

>>19073740
reddit spacing from a drama tourist, how shocking

>> No.19074032

>>19068180
>then the illusion that they are all friends, making lets play videos for fun etc is totally gone
there was any illusion in the first place? I thought it was obvious they work for a company? what are you? twelve?

>> No.19074104

>>19070113
was that supposed to be a convincing argument anon? them being sad? explain watame fuuki and flare being happy then. i can basically reverse your entire argument and say rushia was a bitch because these girls laughed and joked around on the day rushia got fired. you see now how your argument holds no ground?

>> No.19074128

>>19073500
>Rushia leaked someting to a third party and they can easily find this out by going through her discord logs
>the third party should just release all this info and get sued into the ground
>if I can't see it then it doesnt exist!!!
This is how retarded you are

>> No.19074145

>>19074104
then why are the 3 not doing it too?

>> No.19074153

>>19070288
>What she did she clearly did it out of stupidity and not malice
still a crime is a crime

>> No.19074198

>>19074145
who doing what?

>> No.19074214

>>19074153
First off a contract breach is a contract breach. It's a civil case. It's not a crime unless she's sharing medical information or state secrets.
Secondly, i'm arguing on your side. Whether it was malicious or not does not matter in the end result of her termination.

>> No.19074233

>>19074198
why are Kanata Pekora and Marine not doing the same thing as everyone else? why cry over it?

>> No.19074257

>>19073794
>you do know Aki is married with kids right?
Call me when her kids are crying on stream or her husband sends her live messages.

>> No.19074278

>>19074257
ok but
>seeing guys despite being an idol
is true of both of them.

>> No.19074378

>>19068620
>become a truck driver
>shit in your bosses coffee and get fired
>what the fuck I don't get to keep the truck????
God damn you're dumb

>> No.19074415

>>19074233
did they really cry though? to me it seemed fake or shallow if anything.

>> No.19074546

>>19072989
They are women.

>> No.19074581

>>19067901
It doesn't look good for a company to keep profiting off of an employee that they parted on bad terms with. That's literally it.

>> No.19074583

>>19073500
>You blindly believe that leaked info that very damaging to the company wouldn't be tossed
the people that received the info were identified and legally threatened, also if Cover lied about all this, then they could be easily be fucked legally too., if Cover went to the extreme to blame publicly Rushia for failing to protect what she should, then she is fucked.
This is the problems with zoom zooms, they don't think

>> No.19074683

>>19074415
what seems fake and shallow is everyone else acting completely unfazed that she's gone. If everyone else is doing that, then what do they gain by acting differently and actually showing sadness?

>> No.19074700

>>19073794
>you do know Aki
rrats are just rrats, dont pretend they are true until they are proven

>> No.19074724

>>19074581
Demonetize and her videos become the same as Coco's.

>>19074700
that one isn't an rrat though...

>> No.19074822

>>19074683
They're sad about her getting terminated but they also all saw it coming and know it was deserved. Some of the girls were even affected directly by her fuckup and are holding back from lashing out in public.

>> No.19074834

>>19074683
>actually showing sadness?
that doesn't mean nothing, sadness can be feigned, maybe is better that we will never know how Rushia fucked up, to deserve this treatment

>> No.19074865

>>19070840
It makes them look good for more superchats

>> No.19074864

>>19067926
/thread

>> No.19074872

>>19074724
>that one isn't an rrat though...
5ch schizo post are not proof

>> No.19074877

>>19074700
It's true, because I am Aki's husband.

>> No.19074913

>>19074822
>Some of the girls were even affected directly by her fuckup and are holding back from lashing out in public.
proof?
>>19074834
>sadness can be feigned
and what's the motive when everyone else is fine with the cold shoulder treatment?

>> No.19074963

>>19074865
in that case shouldn't flare have been the one milking it? the others are all way higher than her

>>19074872
and i suppose stuff from her roommate also isn't proof?

>> No.19075043

>>19074963
God I wish Aki was my mom and would call me a good boy.

>> No.19075086

>>19074963
Pekora and Marine are the 3rd and 4th top earners aside from Rushia and Coco, why wouldn't they bait for more? Dunno about Kanata though.

>> No.19075157

>>19074913
>and what's the motive when everyone else is fine with the cold shoulder treatment?
hey fucker, how many years do you have? do you need to be explained how fucking common sense works? sadness can be kept inside, even here schizos and sociopaths are everywhere not everybody reacts or feel the same, or have the same attachment, why do you expect everyone to react the same like NPC?s can't they be upset or angry for what Rushia did?

>> No.19075158

>>19068032
>The archive deletion stuff, is a bit more a Japanese culture thing

Is it really? Because I remember 10-ish years ago several radio hosts from the US got basically wiped from existance in companies that they worked for, just because they had some "yabs". Like for example, saying something controversial and the station firing you for it.

>> No.19075220

>>19075086
Sure but by that logic shouldn't a lot more of them have tried to bait? Maybe to pick up some of Rushia's gachis?
>>19075157
>asking for a genuine display of emotion is acting like an NPC
ok

>> No.19075242

>>19074963
>and i suppose stuff from her roommate also isn't proof?
but you are a poorfag indog that doesn't have money to watch paywalled content, what you think is proof comes from a doxx discord, that also comes from a 5ch schizo post

>> No.19075275

>>19075242
Wrong on all counts. Sad.

>> No.19075368

>>19075220
>an NPC
learn english first fucking insect

>> No.19075419

>>19075368
? you usually use "an" before an acronym that starts with a vowel sound. sort of like "an umbrella" vs "a union"

>> No.19075455

>>19075220
Surely the ones that are experienced in getting money out of people would be the ones to take advantage of a golden situation like this, right?

>> No.19075487

>>19067901
>isnt that a bit far?
no she deserves to go to jail
egoist bitch

>> No.19075543

>>19075455
Ok then, why didn't whoever's 4th, 5th, 6th, etc. in the superchat conga employ the same strat? Actually you would almost think they would all be sad to milk it, if that's your line of thinking.

>> No.19075551

>>19070441
Cringe

>> No.19075562

>>19074913
>>19075220
Jesus dude are you genuinely retarded of something?

>> No.19075638

>>19075562
Apparently? Why don't you enlighten me as to what makes you think that? Help an autist out.

>> No.19075834

>>19070441
Use to farm Karma for reddit alts to shitpost on reeree subs.

>> No.19075906

She'll get resigned in an year or so if she keeps her shit together, doesnt have more menhera moments and the rrat about every other member hating her is not true

>> No.19076073

>>19072643
Cover pays a bank to a PR team for situations like this. She disregarded all their advice and dug herself deeper.

>> No.19076078

>>19071039
This. Also remember Mio’s predictions. It wasn’t any magic bullshit but simple pattern recognition. Mio might as well have said that Rushia was yab prone but if she’d just chill out before going menhera, everything would be okay. Rushia forgot I guess.

>> No.19076192

>>19075906

Her ass is already out. She has 2 weeks to GTFO of her cover leased accommodation. During which time she'll probably be trying to get to her brother as MFMF will be distancing himself from her after that as no doubt his fans will be listening for sounds of scratching at his door.

>> No.19076333

>>19076073
i think they advised her to do nothing. which didn't work out so well for coco or aloe

>> No.19076365

>>19076192
>of her cover leased accommodation.
where does this come from? why would they lease her apartment or whatever?

>> No.19076477

>>19076365
Probably for 3d studio access.
During Rushia's parting messages she mentioned she needs to find a new place

>> No.19076698

>>19075419
Amerimutts themselves cant speak their language. Purisu andastando.

>> No.19076793

>>19076477
yes but that could be for any reason. can't afford the apartment without steady source of income, needs to make what she has last, some stalker or fujo showed up at her place and caused trouble, landlord threw her out for all the screaming during a menhera fit. could be anything really.

>> No.19077494

>>19068024
Kys bootlicker wagie cuck. Fuck NDAs, fuck Cover, fuck corporate culture, fuck corporate law, cuck capitalism and fuck Yagoo.

>> No.19077745

>>19068858
said drama faggot is going to stream within 30 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yadVEV-f4

>> No.19077772

>>19077494
Just go watch an indie then

>> No.19077872

>>19077494
>muh corpo oshi got fired
take the indie pill faggot and stop crying and blaming it on the wagies, atleast they give money to the chubas

>> No.19078468

>>19067901
Yeah I don't get the deleting the channel thing. Regardless of what she did, deleting the channel just seems like punishing the fans.

>> No.19078544

>>19067901
Since the contract is broken, it actually requires Cover to remove the content.

>> No.19078634

>>19069482
>Obviously I don't have proof for this thing I'm stating as a fact.
kyoani your self.

>> No.19078799

>>19067901
They should have forgive her, her genmate and all other member knows her sins, that alone is enough for punishment.

>> No.19078877

>>19070567
> I also believe Calli checks all her contracts and NDAs to the absolute letter so that she knows what she can get away with.
I hope she didn’t.

>> No.19078891

>>19078799
>the vtuber I like should be exempt from punishment because I like her

>> No.19079153

>>19078799
I feel bad for Rushia, but even I know that's fucking stupid.

>> No.19079488

>>19073610
using their brain is too hard for fancucks obviously, as seen by their idiotic oshi.

>> No.19079926

>>19074724
Employee breaks an NDA forcing Cover to fire them which rarely happens in Japan as it’s usually urging employees to resign instead, which means this situation is really severe. This whole NDA-breaking fiasco makes Cover look bad and ruins their reputation in the eyes of other corporations, contractors, etc. So Cover needs to wipe any traces of Rushia off their platform before her “legacy” can do any more damage.

>> No.19080186

>>19078799
Are you insane? Do you think she could function in that workspace with the entire roster of talent knowing she's been leaking info? Do you think that her workmates are going to want to anything with her? You know about Coco being shadowbanned from collabs right? Had she stayed it wouldn't have been a shadowban. The other talents will blacklist her. With how cold everyone is treating her she probably would've been bullied to tears. Management would have had to lock down all her comms and only giving info at the very last minute or extremely vague details so she can't leak any more shit.

She fucked with other peoples safety and most importantly she fucked with the other talents ability to earn money. There is no way she could keep her position.

>> No.19080454

>>19067901
Now the fans can move on and forget about the big MFMF cock taker

>> No.19082814

>>19070567
>I also believe Calli checks all her contracts and NDAs to the absolute letter so that she knows what she can get away with.
Why? If anyone Calli seems like the one who'd be a drunken retard and leak shit for shits and giggles.

>> No.19083095

>>19070567
>>19082814
Seems to me more like Mori has a manager to keep herself from being that retard. Paying someone a chunk of your bank specifically to stop you when you get close to jeopardizing the cushy job giving you that bank sounds like a great business plan.

>> No.19083224

>>19083095
Having a manager doesn't mean he can 100% stop Calli from fucking up unless he's literally watching over her shoulder 24/7.

>> No.19083435

>>19083224
J Chad is a she (totally shocking move by Mori) but obviously she can't stop everything. What she can do is catch a LOT of it and if something does happen act as an intermediary to Cover in an effort to preserve that job. For all we know that's the reason Mori's away time last month was so short and she's still got the job.

>> No.19083565

>>19083224
>he
god damn this bitch sure gets around

>> No.19084543

>>19068024
>I hope you hikikomori fags find a real government job one day

We're talking about a pretend job for mentally subnormal girls to play video games all day.

>> No.19084768

>>19084543
that's basically every HR department

>> No.19084828

Cover seems to be sure of it.

>> No.19085874

>>19070402
Kill yourself namefag

>> No.19087205

>>19070931
i don't think it's a holomember, but on the offchance that it is, we need definitive proof and not some 'trust me bruh' bullshit or another korekorrat

i'd be more inclined to think its a staff member in Cover.

I'd be fucking willing to bet it's a fucking mafujo who just so happened to be in the most convenient place and time to screw Rushia over for even hinting at the possibility of having a relationship with mafumafu.

It's all too easy for cover staff to pull this sort of scummy shit off, and if they're in the IT side, even things like NDA-breaking DMs can be planted as incriminating evidence, if any, though this may have to be taken with a grain of salt.


Suppose there was indeed a crazy mafujo among Cover staff, how easy would it be for them to screw over Rushia and get away with it scot-free?

Just something to think about.

>> No.19087253

>>19068180
>then the illusion that they are all friends, making lets play videos for fun etc is totally gone.
I watch holomyth only so this never was an issue to me.

>> No.19088032

>>19068024
>rushia gets fired from a non-government job
>I hope you find a government job
retard alert

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