/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

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"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

Last Thread: >>18936204

[Anonymous No.]

My model keep lagging behind during tests. I think it's the camera, it's pretty choppy and the image is full of artifacts which probably throws off the algorithms.
Should I buy a camera now or just roll with the inaccuracy until I get streambucks?

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With how slow /asp/ can be, I wonder if it might be best to take a break for a couple days until the 50k Rushia threads die

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>>19023756
How many FPS is your camera running at? that may or may not have an effect on it though mine typically runs at 15 and is fine

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>>19024987
Allegedly 30, but any move I make blurs me. Feels like I'm back in 2004.

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It took me nearly 2 months to reach Affiliate on Twitch...

Am I ngmi

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>>19025214
is your lighting fine? most webcams/cameras are super reliant on having a good light source or the quality just dips to oblivion.

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>>19025222
Less than 3 is good depending. Good luck!

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>>19025222

https://sullygnome.com/articles/normalgrowthontwitch

Learn to do your own research dumbass

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>>19025389
Lighting should be fine. I have overhead light and natural light blasting through the window, it's a bit gray lately but my ceiling light is powerful enough to make the outside lighting irrelevant so I don't think that the problem. My phone's cameras (even the front one) do just fine by comparison.

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>>19025496
This article really doesn't show any relevant information for vtubers reaching affiliate specifically

I appreciate the effort tho

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>>19025623
then it's probably the camera itself. have you tried using your phone as a webcam source? takes some effort to set up every time but it can work while you save up.

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>>19025779
I'll see if I can try that. Phone too is pretty old.

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>>19025779
>>19025934
fuck I'm stoopid. I remembered I have a firefly camera somewhere, checked online and they have webcam functionality. Just have to find it under the piles of papers.

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I got another follower on twithell. Bros im gonna make it! Im not gonna be a 2 viewer! thats like 4 now!

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>>19028084
Followers on twitter dot com do not translate to viewers you silly goose.

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>>19029609
shit you're right. 2 viewer forever then :(

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>>19023190
I'm thinking of doing vroid commissions..
(ignore the outfit for this example, its not done yet)
do you think anyone would potentially commission one? and how much should I charge for one? i have no idea

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>>19025758
Vtuberw are just streamers. Stop looking for vtuber specific information, you're no different than any other streamer.

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>>19029873
No you just need to stream more you silly goose.

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>>19029915
VRoid commissions could get you money but you'd need to show how well you could do outfits as well; so many people just use base textures so as long as you can go a step further and make them look nice overall then you'd probably get some comms

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>>19030106
heres an outfit i've done before

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Hello asp, after thinking about it I decided to start streaming with a free model until I raise funds to make a high quality one. Does anyone know of any good places to get one?

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>>19030749
VRoid studio

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>decide goes babiniku and never hide the fact that i'm a babi with actual talking
>first stream end up have average 2 viewers and gains 4 followers
A progress is progress so i'm happy, more happy than my past 12 years streaming career that almost never talking.

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I'm glad I trained my voice to remove assent, hide my nationality and established no politics rule. Escaped awkward questions and jokes today.

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>>19031032
yeah Christian love day is always a rough one. No I dont watch the news why are you asking

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twitch

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>>19034660

yes

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Be honest. Does it make a sense to be a chuuba if you're male, but not willing to go the fujo route? It seems I would have better chances to get fans as a normal streamer/youtuber with no facecam.

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>>19036896
Yes

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>>19036896
Yes. Stupid question.

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>>19037519
>>19037570
It's not a stupid question. I'm getting a feeling guys find watching male chuubas cringe while women gravitate towards pretty boys.

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>>19036896
>>19038803

Not every male that's getting views is doing fujo bait and not even male with an attractive avatar is necessarily trying to cultivate that audience. It's a stupid question. my viewership is almost exclusively male (to my knowledge) aside from a few people I know are girls coming to my stream and of those most of them are other chuubas I know.

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>>19038803
The majority of male chuubas being cringe is a consequence of vtubing being a weeb hobby and full of people in general that have had no prior stream-watching experience to understanding how entertaining male streamers work compared to corpo vtubers, and most of those guys probably being lonely with little social experience too.

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>>19038803
For my part, my taste in vtubers is much the same as it is in anime in general; I like cute girls and cool dudes. If you're a male and you have a decent voice and a cool design, I'll have some interest. Your own mileage will vary in this regard, but that's where I'm at.

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>>19039047
on top of that, a lot of female vtubers are cringe as well, it's just seen more as endearing (to males) while cringe males typically don't appeal to women. Something something gender roles something something society. I couldn't tell you why, but it's an observation. Think about some of the things female vtubers you watch say or joke about and if they'd hit the same if a male vtuber said them.

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>>19039111
>cool dudes
I was planning to make a slightly edgy-looking chuuba, dunno if that counts as cool, tho.

>>19039047
>>19039170
Guys generally are sexually attracted to female chuubas, I think. Genetically programmed simping, I would call it. I might want to look up popular male chuubas and see what works.

>>19038962
Interesting, how are your numbers, tho?

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>>19036896
>better chances to get fans as a normal streamer/youtuber with no facecam.
What makes you believe that? Vtubing is added value.

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>>19039892
Don't normalfags consider anime cringe?

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>>19040193
You're streaming video games. Normalfags are hardly your audience to begin with, unless you're streaming call of dooty or some pozzed shit like apex.

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Posting again since it was a bit late last nig.
Trying to go for a more mecha/dimensional look but not sure if I’m on the right track. An anon did draw something over my full body design a little while back but I couldn’t quite make out the details in it.

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>>19040736
Night* oops

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>>19039170
cute girly voice wont take you far but it will take you to the coomers while actually being good at streaming can take you to much better places. You do not want a purely coomer audience. Thats bad

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>>19040193
You realize anime isn't some weird niche hobby like it was 15 years ago, right? They sell My Hero Academia figurines in Gamestop and most anime conventions (before COVID) were hitting all time highs. Everything is extremely accessible and the stigma towards everything aside from more extreme things is either gone or significantly lower than it used to be as far as the last couple of generations are concerned.

>>19039840
>I might want to look up popular male chuubas and see what works.
Everything works, just like with female chuubas. Variety gaming, game specialists (card games, retro, etc), BFE ASMR, variety content, zatsudan/chatting/whatever you want to call it, everything.

>Interesting, how are your numbers, tho?
I've got viewership in the low 20s most of the time.

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>>19041131
I don't mean just having a cute voice, I'm talking about just being awkward or cringe in general. It's seen as a much more endearing trait for a girl to have than a guy.

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>>19039840
>edgy
Still within the realm of consideration. Go for it if you wanna.

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>>19036896
if you don't have the nice deep voice, you're ngmi
I've said this before but women have a very narrow set of qualities they like as a whole as opposed to men who vary between individual. That is why women can be cringe and not men.

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>>19042373
>I've said this before but women have a very narrow set of qualities they like as a whole as opposed to men who vary between individual. That is why women can be cringe and not men.
retard incel take. Women love someone who is confident and secure in themselves. Only incels think women are only attracted to hyper masculine throat diseased males like Corpse Husband. A male with a deep voice is the same as having tits out as a woman. It's the most obvious thing that appeals but there are plenty of males who don't have a deep voice that still get tons of fujos.
>Luca
>Ika
>Shu
>Mysta
None of them have a deep voice and they still get their share of fujos.

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>>19040699
I suppose streaming normie games with no facecam is even more competitive than vtubing, isn't it?

>>19041178
>You realize anime isn't some weird niche hobby like it was 15 years ago, right?
I'm not living in first world, so I guess my perspective is skewed.

>Everything works
I was about to be doubtul, but yesterday I was watching Vox play Runescape and he pulled a lot of views. I guess you can get away with anything as long you're popular already.

>20s
Stumbled upon Retrospecters Pokemon stream and he had like 80, not much for someone quite famous.

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>>19040736
Good luck on your design!

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Hii, would anyone have any outfit ideas for a will o' wisp girl concept? I have the hair and face down exactly how I want it, just this outfit is killing me. Heeeelp thanks ^^

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>>19043136
What feeling are you going for

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>>19042629
>I suppose streaming normie games with no facecam is even more competitive than vtubing, isn't it?
I'd bet it is. Facecam or not.

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>>19042561
I honestly wonder why women like Luca's voice. I don't have a problem with him. I just don't get why they got so thirsty during his ring fit stream.

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>>19036896
>fans
Already ngmi

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>>19043136
A fairy outfit like Pomu?

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roast voice please. i already know im ngmi
https://vocaroo.com/1c4AuGfTnOII

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>>19043224
Something cute and simple with like ghosty e-girl vibes. Think Stocking from PSG but a little more bubbly and dumb lmfao.

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>>19044690
Your voice is fine anon

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>>19030351
oh this is nice; do you have an outfit you've made for vroid yet?

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>>19042629
>I guess you can get away with anything as long you're popular already.
Stop looking at corporate vtubers. You are not and will likely never be one. Look at what indies are doing, or better yet normal streamers.

>Stumbled upon Retrospecters Pokemon stream and he had like 80, not much for someone quite famous.
Had to look up who that was. There's successful youtubers, artists, musicians, etc that aren't pulling numbers you'd expect. It's because their main audience isn't a streaming one and streaming isn't their main form of content creation. Again, you're looking at things from the wrong angle

Vtubing is just streaming. You aren't special, it isn't some magical unsolved puzzle of a "genre". It's streaming. That's it. It was figured out a decade ago

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>>19044838
something like this https://www.lolitawardrobe.com/a-letter-from-chris-vintage-classic-lolita-jumper-dress_p7312.html

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>>19046882
Ooh pretty cute, thank you!! ^^ I'll experiment with that.

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>>19045756

>Vtubing is just streaming.

You literally said there's other forms of content on the same post you retard. Fuck off somewhere else with your bait.

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it's too stupid to be bait at this point.

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>>19047680
Yes, and Vtubing is just livestreaming.

It isn't art. You can livestream art, but you don't have to.

It isn't music production. You can produce music, but you don't have to.

It isn't acting. You can play a character, but you don't have to.

Not sure if you're ESL or retarded but none of that was bait and I don't even see how you could even misconstrue it as such. Vtubing is just streaming 99% of the time. You're no different than any other fuck in the game category you're under, you just have an anime avatar.

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How do you balance out a color scheme for a design? How much contrast is too much (for an outfit as an example)yp8nh

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>>19048868
That captcha wasn’t supposed to be there.

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I want to try vtubing, but I don't have money, I'm not an artist, and I fear that if I wait to practice to draw something better than beginner level, I'll regret it after realizing that I might not like vtubing. I have a sketch of a random anime girl I drew in chibi(ish??) style, and I'm a guy that has a voice I've been told many times over and over again is deep. Anything advice or notable points to watch out for before jumping into the wind? I can give a vocaroo if you want to hear how bad I sound

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>>19050136
>Anything advice
I am not ESL, just dumb

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>>19050136
no, just fucking start. jesus christ. you'll figure out what matters and what doesn't after sticking to a schedule for at least 2 weeks.

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>>19050136
stream for like a week without any vtuber gimmick and see if you actually like doing it, then put in effort

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>>19050136
Stream with a scuff PNG to see if you actually like streaming, then decide if it's something you want to invest time and money into.

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Hey anons. My dumb inner voice tells me that no one needs my stream and that every need i could fulfill is already covered by somebody else. How do I convince myself that voice is wrong, and should I?

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>>19052609
don't do it for anyone else but you or your own enjoyment, just like life itself 99% of what we have done, are doing or aim to do has already been done but still no matter how similar we are, each one has the potential to do something unique
just do it anyway

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>>19048868
i am currently having the same problem with my design, i love saturated illustrations like pic rel so i am trying to make it work within my design. I would say look at what other artists do and take note.

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https://twitter.com/H0taruHikari/status/1496472964984094721
just found this thread for aspiring vtubers who want to network

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>>19053318
reminder that these threads are made just to give clout to the OP

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Took me this long to understand vtubing is about the parasocial relationship first and foremost. But I wanted to do more than that and thought I have the means to, more readily than most in the scene. I am not streaming yet, but now I feel humbled because, to me, my upbringing and me being a male means the parasocial interaction I will be having seems to be inevitably much weaker. I wanted to audition for stars once I started streaming, but now It feels like I'm gonna be like fish out of water should I somehow get in. I feel like I will fail at the parasocial "game", and also fail at pushing for my ambitions due to the nature of the company. What do you think? Is going for stars any good or should I be indie? or should I just be a regular youtuber instead? or should I just try to find a job around my interest instead?

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>>19053428
stars is a meme at this point and you are very confident in yourself if you think you even have the chance of getting there
think about that when you actually get accepted

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>>19053428
forgot the image

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>>19053545
I'm both confident and insecure about it

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>>19053428
you should do what's most comfortable for yourself. if you try to force something, then it'll come off as awkward. you could give the parasocial game a try while youre streaming normally, but if it's not for you then it's not for you.
you should give stars a try anyway, it's not like gura acts like her previous identity but she's still doing well and fitting in. and if you fail to get in, then stay indie or whatever group you wind up with.
you can start as a regular youtuber/streamer with an anime profile pic before moving on to full vtubing.

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>>19052609
>every need i could fulfill is already covered by somebody else
It's true. Almost no vtuber out there, including popular ones, are any different than one another. What is Bao doing that Artemis isn't? What's Artemis doing that Leaflit isn't. You can basically do that all the way to the bottom. People come for your personality and how it shapes your content.

>How do I convince myself that voice is wrong,
Being realistic here, is it? What could you do (that people want) that no one else is already doing?

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>>19053318
>140 retweets
>1000+ likes
>most liked reply only has 20-30
>they're all from the chuuba's pre-existing fans

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>>19053318
why would you link a "drop your png" here of all places

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>>19050136
I don't get it when people say they don't have money to start. If you have a decent PC/gaming laptop and possess the necessary equipment for streaming, surely you have money for commissioning artists? It doesn't have to be a rigged model, bust-up pngs start from around 5-10 bucks if you know where to look

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>>19050519
>>19051322
>>19052606
Thanks for the advice, I'll hop into it and just play games that I like and see what happens

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>>19054901
Good luck! Feel free to drop a link when you go live.

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>>19053318
>demon, dragon magical cat, werewolf, lamia, etc.
>everyone is a special snowflake
>tfw I just want to design a normal drunk salaryman
I-is this a sign for me to become one of the special snowflakes

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>>19055991
>I-is this a sign for me to become one of the special snowflakes
no, it just means you have some weird complex thinking your oc is better than someone else's oc.

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>>19030051
I don't think this is good advice. Vtubers are a niche, and looking how you're doing comparatively within that niche is also a good idea. Vtuber specific information is as valuable as generic streamer information.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qim4za4EwM

Schizo Cat here, shilling as always!
starting soon!

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>>19056185
I think you were looking for /wvt/, anon

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>>19056183
>Vtuber specific information is as valuable as generic streamer information.
tell me 5 pieces of vtuber specific information

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>>19056067
I'm unironically asking whether a bland salaryman design would survive as an indie when the market is full of dragons and whatnot, seeing that I'm still on the drawing board. We have people like Yashiro and Taka but they're corpos and not indies

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>>19056438
the secret is that your design genuinely does not matter. as long as it's conventionally appealing to the eyes. there are literally zero chuubas who are successful for the sole reason their model is some mythical dark sky dragon from the underworld or whatever fucking shit.

viewers don't care. they want to be entertained when they watch a stream. entertain them and you'll survive as an indie.

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>>19056438
Your design isn't as important as if you're charismatic. As long as your design isn't actively off-putting, do whatever you like.

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>>19058898
You doing okay, Anyaposter?

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>>19056519
> there are literally zero chuubas who are successful for the sole reason their model is
I don’t know about that… Ayame barely streams and she has shit tons of brainwashed simps dancing in the palm of her hands.

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>jp holo corpo
don't feed easy (You)s to the bait, aspies.

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>>19059229
thanks i almost bit it but i'll give you the (You) instead

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https://www.patreon.com/posts/62585593
this was posted in /wvt/ and looks like a live effects filter for OBS. another anon mentioned it's just $5 per month through the patreon. put in perspective that's just 2 tier 1 subs per month.

example of it being used by Miori from Tsunderia in her karaoke stream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajRB5S7qZFE

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>>19059446
damn that's neat. kinda wish it's a one time purchase thing though. i'd rather pay a fat stack upfront

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>>19059834
you can be patron for a month to download it then cancel you subscription to them. you won't get access to any updates they push but it seems pretty function with what Miori is showing on screen right now.

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>>19044935
>fine
that doesn't cut it as a male vtuber

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>>19060651
Your enunciation is really poor. It almost sounds like you've got something in your mouth. Try an old theater trick, speaking with a pencil between your teeth.

To help improve your diction, lightly grip a pencil (horizontally) between your teeth, so that you are forced to really work your tongue to create the sounds.

Practice speaking out loud the following 3 tongue twisters, clearly enunciating each word:

A thin little boy picked six thick thistle sticks. Sidney Shelly flies through thick fog. This thatched roof is thick.

After saying them each several times, remove the pencil and try saying them again. Listen to how much the clarity of your speech has improved.

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>>19060924
thanks i'll try it

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>>19060651
>that doesn't cut it as a male vtuber
your charisma matters more than your voice does

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>Can't get noticed without spamming hashtags on Twitter
>Spamming hashtags makes you look so unprofessional (for a vtuber) that none of the top people do it, indicating that's it's actually bad to do
Wtf am I supposed to do

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>>19061673
spamming hashtags has never gotten someone noticed. the more you spam the more you're likely to be written off as just a spammer.
>Wtf am I supposed to do
make short form easy to consume content that compliments the content you make. look at Miori from Tsunderia who churns out Youtube Shorts and TikToks like a machine. she GFE baits and does singing clips because those are her talents and reflect the type of shit she does on stream.

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>>19061544
i think thats true for retaining but having a good voice is beneficial for having people stay long enough to see it. the other anon is right. i need to work on diction.

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>>19061828
no you're just insecure and retarded. your content will win out 10/10 times over just your voice. but it sounds like you've decided to latch onto your excuse of the month so good luck with that shit.

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>>19061673
>Expected to communicate with the envtubing community and make friends
>But that destroys the immersion which is why corpo chuubas don't do it

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>all these envtubers ruining their brands by giving their political takes on russia

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>>19062382
>>all these envtubers ruining their brands
you don't have a "brand" if you're less than 100 CCV over 90 days

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>>19061875
>you're just insecure and retarded.
maybe I am but I want honest feedback on my voice. i just started streaming so my voice is my biggest concern.

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>>19062438
>honest feedback on my voice.
your voice is fine. you can work on it while working your content. make good content.

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>>19062382
The better you get at being a content creator, the more you realize to keep your mouth shut on main. Notice how the biggest hololive hasn't even commented on Rushia. And none of them will ever mention Ukraine. They will keep streaming like always even if WW3 happens.

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>>19062438
I have a whistling S and people say my voice is fine. The tops need great voices but to go full time you don't, it just can't be atrocious.

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My new mic came in today and it sounds pretty good. My bonus is coming in at the end of the month, which will be enough to buy any assets I'll need. Once it comes in can get my OC commissioned & then start png tubing while my model is being worked on. I'm a bit nervous about starting, but better to begin the grind ASAP & have some experience for when my model is finished & it can hopefully attract more viewers.

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BTW found this post archive diving.
>>18950587
If someone grabs your steam nickname from a lobby screen, they can easily do a reverse lookup to find the steam account and the entire nickname history of it using 3rd party sites. Additionally, if a friend of a friend was queried while your profile was ever public, those sites have your friend list at that time as well.
If you're trying to avoid being identified, don't reuse a steam account that had an compromising nickname or friend list. If you already put your vtuber name on your old steam account with such information attached to it, oh well, too late.

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If you could give one piece of advice to a new vtuber with no videos (waiting for a mic) and zero pre-existing audience, what would you say? Asking for a friend.

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>>19067859
Wiggle to popular meme music on tiktok and see how many views you get

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are you guys doing youtube ads?
i'm getting 1 sub per 10 views on average.
with a modest daily budget i'm getting 50~100 subs per day

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>>19067859
Ignore the twitter envtubing community unless they use one of your hastags,but even then you mostly just want to thank them for the fanart etc.

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>>19061673
Top people don't do it because they don't have to. You think they weren't doing it when they were smaller?

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>>19068166
Good way to kill any networking. A community is important for any creator, it's one of the building blocks to success

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>>19068730
I dunno, twitter doesn't let me go back that far.

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>>19068730
No because back then there were only a thousand vtubers and now there's hundreds of thousands.

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>>19068730
https://web.archive.org/web/20161113202904/https://twitter.com/Veibae

?????

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Am I supposed to be networking with the cringe pre-debut envtubers or not

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>>19068911
Then you either didn't bother checking or don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069312
V-tubing wasn't an established thing in 2016 and Veibae wasn't v-tubing in 2016 to begin with. What's your point? The hashtags wouldn't have even really existed then to begin with.

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>>19069552
>Asking me to prove a negative
Pretty cringe. Show me a big timer who did it. You can't because they don't exist.

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>>19069484
Probably not worth the time, but if they have a concrete debut date and you personally think you want to be their friend then sure, why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069684
Sure, but before you move the goalpost tell me what size they needed to be while using them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19067949
Is that translating to views?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069484
network with chuubas you are genuinely interested in

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069728
1k+ twitter followers who hashtags consistently. Once a day at least that isn't one of their own hashtags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069774
it's been working pretty well... i think.
i didn't want to annoy anyone so i didn't choose the pre-video or mid-video ad options, i only went with the "in-feed ads"; it's the one that appears in the search results, home feed or video suggestion feed

so anyone who subs from the ad is someone who:
- saw the thumbnail
- clicked on the thumbnail
- watched the clip and decided they like me enough to sub
- subbed

i've had people leave positive comments like "this is the best ad youtube has shown me in a long time" "yes youtube show me more vtuber ads" "i saw a vtuber ad so i had to sub".
so far i've had 2 or 3 negative comments and they've been promptly hidden from my channel.

some of them show up in chat during live streams too so i make sure to thank them for clicking on my ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069916
Vox Akuma and Kizuna Ai won't return my DMs. The only other guy likes to talk about cum and I don't want that shit on my channel, cool as he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069976
I'm a little surprised but that sounds nice. Glad it's working for you but I will be streaming on Twitch so I'm not sure if it would translate. Maybe when I get some Shorts and clips on my YouTube channel I'll try advertising.

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>>19069972
Yeah, glad I asked because that's a ridiculous requirement. No one should be doing them once a day to begin with and that's also significantly harder to prove so I'm not sure if that was intentional or not. You should only be using it when you're posting actual content and no one(?) is doing that every single day or ever has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19070156
>Asks for no goalshifting
>Goalshifts
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>19070255
When you set a ridiculous, impossible goal then yes people will reject it. Tell me what reason you think anyone should be using #envtuber DAILY when the point is to use it to get content you created to be noticed? I don't even see a 2view vtuber that's doing that, so you literally created an impossible to prove scenario

[Anonymous No.]

>>19069972
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23envtuber%20from%3A%40DonKoala4&src=typed_query&f=live

2K+ twitter followers, hasahtags daily.

why did you specify twitter followers when the point was to find people who used hashtags for their content when they were smaller? wouldnt past CCV be a better metric?

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>>19070380
Sorry, that wasn't me.

How would you get noticed without aggressively hashtagging? The biggies now didn't have to since they had very little competition or had a large pre-existing audience. Or corpo buffs like hololives. And I've looked through popular envtubers with way back and can't find any hashtags other than stuff like #おはようvtubers which is such a niche tag it basically does nothing anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19070474
Another reason to nuke Australia

[Anonymous No.]

>>19061673
Just bee yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>19070032
let me rephrase that then. network with fellow 2view chuubas that you are genuinely interested in.

[Anonymous No.]

How important is lore to most people, do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19070550
There aren't many huge people who didn't have a past audience, you shouldn't be looking to them anyway because most of them started streaming or creating before Vtubers were a thing, or were picked up by other large creators but there's zero reason to hashtag things that aren't your actual Vtuber content (art, fanart/skebs, clips, memes, cute wiggle videos, etc) and unless you're extremely proactive then you really won't be doing that daily to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071160
not very important, even for corpos. if you really want lore, keep it simple enough to fit in one sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071160
I think it's important but you're not supposed to larp. It's just there for background immersion.

Better question: What makes good lore?

I think good lore needs a reason you want followers. Vox wants to rebuild his kingdom, Vei wants semen, and so on.

What else?

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>>19071160
It's completely unimportant and does not matter. No one needs lore. It serves no purpose whatsoever outside of channel themeing, and even then you don't need lore to do that.

"I'm a [theme] One day [something happened] and now I stream to [some silly arbitrary goal]" is all you need
Adventurer Vtuber? The Demon King was defeated before you could reach him and now you have to stream your games as "adventures" or you lose your adventurer license. Nothing else matters, make shit up on the fly outside of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071244
You should have a tldr but saying corpos don't care is a huge understatement. They make long ass intro movies for their debuts that cost large amounts of money to make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071292
None of those are reasons they get followers and most people don't even know Vei (or most relevant vtubers) have lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071359
>They make long ass intro movies for their debuts that cost large amounts of money to make.
Those are great for debuts if you're a corpo, rich, or managed to vtweet a big following, and then after that they're almost never referenced or talked about again, same with most big vtubers who redebut with a lore video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071359
sure, but the question was referring to the audience in general, so my answer was based on that.
people stop giving a shit about corpo lore after like 2 streams. no one goes to vox for the kingdom kindred stuff, they go to him for the bfe daddy experience.
like the other anons said, it's background stuff. so for aspies, not that important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071573
Agreed but you should still have lore. Keep it short though.
It's a weird combination of "nobody cares" and "you need something"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19071859
yep. nice way to put it

[Anonymous No.]

There is no greater feeling than grooming your fellow anons. I love seeing an anon start gaining hope from me, but not realizing that I'm not there to help them. I'm there to try to bring the worst out in you. For example, I have tried and successfully gotten one anon to lash out and call me a nigger and then reported them to Twitch. While I am not sure if that got them banned, their channel is gone.

I want to inspire hope in you, just to crush them. I want to make you feel like you can do this full time and be happy, just to ghost you and retract any support. I have more than one account and can make it look like you are getting a few viewers, just to make "them" turn on you and leave. You will be crushed. My ultimate hope is getting one of you to quit your job to be a vtuber full-time because of me, and then abandon you, leaving you viewless and unemployed.

If I can't be happy, I will never let one of you be. I stalk these threads, and pick targets very carefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072480
ok nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072480
i respect the hustle. kys tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072480
>I love seeing an anon start gaining hope from me, but not realizing that I'm not there to help them. I'm there to try to bring the worst out in you.
So basically you're just another twitter "vtuber supporter" like that slime of that grandpa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072849
It wouldn't have to be vtubing, but this is the only board that allows anons to really talk about streaming stuff. I just want none of you to succeed where I have failed. Bear in mind, I love my oshi and like plenty of chuubas, just not anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072930
ok failure

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072959
And with any luck, you will be too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072930
Come groom me, we will start with a relationship where we both know what the other wants and by the end of it we'll be madly in love with each other and want the other to succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072930
tell us more how you failed. 2 view for years? corpo reject? lay out that villain backstory

[Anonymous No.]

cant tell if its selfposting or you faggots are buying this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19073210
Fuck you. I'm serious. I spent 8 years of my free time making YouTube videos with no luck, about half a year of failed Twitch streaming and about 5 months of getting no views as a vtuber. No matter what type of content I make, no matter how much production value I put in, no matter how much advice I get, it does nothing. So I'm convinced that I have no viable way to ever do this kind of stuff. But on the positive side, I can spend my now open free time trying my best to make you assholes fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19073529
>>19073016 here, my offer still stands if you're a gril. I'll even collab with you :)

[Anonymous No.]

Do most live2d modelers require a full reference sheet, or can I get away with just full body front facing art of the character?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19073529
99% chance it has nothing to do with your content and you just have to learn to market better.
If you're getting viewers and they're leaving, it's probably a personality or voice problem. If you're not getting people at all, it's a problem with getting yourself out there for people to see.
I'm surprised you did this for 8 years and haven't noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19073853
I gave a friend of mine a literal scribble on ms paint and he has zero experience making a live2d model and he still did it. We did a lot of back-and-forth though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19054613
Yikes these are cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>19074439
The first girl started about a week ago and has anywhere from 3-6 viewers views and the 3rd has a few hundred views on all their recent Youtube videos so I'd say get over the "cringe" thing. You're an anime character on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19074691
>3-6 viewers
Damn that's 6 more than I do maybe you're right.

[Anonymous No.]

Has /asp/ ever thought about making a scuffed vtuber group or can we not trust each other?

[Anonymous No.]

>just be urself
D-Do women like MENhera?

[Anonymous No.]

the worst part of this whole thing is already being aware that nothing will lead anywhere and yet you try to continue pretending to do it for "fun". i have done this long enough to know that I'm not smart / disciplined enough to get where i want to be, but somehow i delude myself that maybe I'll get lucky one day. but even then I'll just realize i dont have anything to offer and any luck would be wasted on me. maybe it would be healthier to accept that I'll stay a nobody instead of falling for positivity. I think "doing your best" has it's downsides too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072480
this reads more as a cry for help, if anything. hope you feel better anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19075254
Too many males would drag it down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076005
it's difficult to stay motivated when there is no results and you don't need to be smart to be entertaining and worthwhile to watch.
you can push through or give up, the choice is yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076029
Nothing wrong with male vtubers, anon. Most popular streamers are male anyway. You have to let go of the waifu elitism, husbandos deserve love too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076029
how about a scuffed female asp group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076005
>>19076106
He was never "pushing through", he was waiting for a miracle. He hoping that viewers would magically come into his streams without making an effort to attract them in the first place. You can have the best personality in the world (though it seems from your posts that you don't), if you have no marketing prowess then you won't get viewers.
I don't mean to be mean but that's how it is. You can accept that and make a REAL step forward, or you can keep blaming yourself for other reasons and sink into the depths of whatever despair you're currently drowning in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19075637
Depends on how menhera you are, what type of menhera you are, and if you're hot. If you have an attractive model, a good voice, and are good at talking even if you're obviously unhinged, you can probably get some "I can fix him" women

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076197
Typical afraid of being alone menhera that started after my girlfriend of 4 years sent me a text saying she got married to some other guy.
Maybe I can do this, /asp/ies. I'm going live!

[Anonymous No.]

What is a thing that you could do on stream that you think should be done more often but streamers in general don’t (because they’d too focused on EPIC GAEMIN or whatever)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076194
i think you misunderstood that. I'm not hopeful about getting viewers because i know my visibility is non-existent. I even used to study in marketing for my previous job, but i never really applied here. It's just weird to me that despite already knowing what needs to be done I'd rather just stream for no-one, because going out of my way, networking with people posting on discords and social medias, making clips is all so tedious and annoying.

But you are right anon, making vent posts on 4chan is cringe. I think all I'm really upset about is slowly having to accept that my personality isn't all that entertaining to begin with to the point where i don't even want to market myself anymore. But i don't understand it for other streamers either. I keep watching other streams and can barely listen to them for 5 minutes but thousands of people can. Maybe I'm just not made for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076684
Talking to chat messages besides just superchats/bit donations. A lot of streams seem like they would be literally the same if chat didn't exist at all. So little interaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076197
nta, but how about men who "have been fixed" by women previously? Would women think that "I can fix him even better"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076969
Never tell your audience you have an SO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19076714
You can buy ads for your channel anon

Instead of putting effort and energy into socializing, just throw money at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19026654
FUCK ME I have the 8S and it doesn't work as a webcam. Guess I'll have to try with the highly impractical phone cam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19053318
Damn the pink cat is cute. Mogs them all, except maybe the maid cat, she's really pretty.

[Anonymous No.]

READ YOUR CONTRACTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>19078488
What contract? Twitch affiliate? Don't even bother reading that one, it's bad. What other contracts are people getting, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19077468
Nah I got friendzoned in the end, but the girl fixed me so hard I went from absolute neet to wall street life. Still single and couldn't move on for almost a decade now despite people trying to matchmake me with 9/10s and really kind girls.
"Being fixed" led me to have this unrealistic standards for a partner that is always under the shadow of that lady

[Anonymous No.]

>On average, though, YouTube advertising costs are $0.10 to $0.30 per view or action, with an average daily budget of $10. That means every time someone views your ad or engages with your ad, like by clicking on a call-to-action, you pay around $0.10 to $0.30.
Bro I don't have that kind of money. $10 for presumably 33 subs, assuming everyone who clicks the link actually subs? I'd rather just let the algorithm gods help me.

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>>19072480
>reporting
absolute cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19078635
That seems unreasonably expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19073529
Sounds like a (you) problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19078635
You can set the maximum bid for views manually.
I've tried setting max bid per view to $0.01 and got views from south Asian, southeast Asian, middle eastern countries, so if you don't care where your subscribers come from that's an option.
Views from the US are at least $0.03 and higher during weekends.

I figured I already spent hundreds of dollars on live2d and assets, paying a bit more to ensure that I at least have a couple of dudes to chat with isn't such a bad deal

The fact that I don't have to whore myself out on socmed also makes it more appealing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19078994
>The fact that I don't have to whore myself out on socmed also makes it more appealing
TRUE. Whoring yourself out on socmed is so hard these days. I saw someone make a viral post with over 15k likes and his follower count didn't move from 66 in the week I stalked him to watch his follower count.

[Anonymous No.]

I really don't like my voice. I've posted it here before and people have said it's fine, but man it just feels awkward to listen to. I wouldn't ever watch anyone who sounded like me and it's wrecking my desire to do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19079330
>I really don't like my voice.
Me neither
>I've posted it here before and people have said it's fine
People have posted their voices here before recently and gotten told they're ngmi. If you were told it's fine, it's probably fine.
>but man it just feels awkward to listen to.
Because 1) It sounds different to you when you listen to yourself speak because it's echoing around in your head and 2) Mics don't pick up all aspects of a voice anyway so the recording isn't actually how you sound like irl to other people.
>I wouldn't ever watch anyone who sounded like me and it's wrecking my desire to do anything.
I recommend listening to your own recordings often, you'll eventually get over that feeling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19079152
there're a few lessons i learned along the way that i wish i'd known earlier.

first, make sure to put search keywords.
at first i didn't define any keywords and it was horrible. i was getting 1 sub every 100-200 views. (0.5% - 1%)
a while after that i tried adding a few keywords and i started getting a sub every 20 to 50 views (2% - 5%)
i tried a bunch of different keywords like "vtuber" "vtuber en" "hololive" "nijisanji" "vtuber clips" "some vtuber name" but it didn't seem to make much difference, i guess anyone who's into vtubers would've searched for one of those words or another at some point.

then i tinkered with the ad campaign some more and only included english speaking countries (since my ad text is in english and my channel is in english) and that improved sub rate even more, 5% to 10%.
previously i was getting a lot of views from japan, china and i guess they won't sub to a channel they don't understand.

after that i made a new clip to use in the ad campaign, it has shorter cuts showing more variety of games and moments, and the thumbnail has more details on it.
now i'm getting about 10% to 15% sub rate i.e. 10 to 15 subs per 100 views

i don't know if i can improve the ad's target audience or make a better clip but for now i'm happy with what growth i'm getting.
the bids range from $0.03 to $0.05 per view, daily budget $30 but it rarely maxes out because of my low max bid; typically spends $10~$15 a day.
been doing this for a couple months, my ccv hovers 10~20.
when money starts feeling tight i'll stop the campaign i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>Watching Vox's chat and chill stream
Man big chuubas really have it on easy mode, they get $1500 super chats asking them to certain things and they can just use that to fill in deadtime.
I always knew it got easier because a 0viewer has to pretend there are people there or sit in awkward silence but DAMN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19080037
>[name], thank you very much.
FOR THE PAST 5 MINUTES. He doesn't even have to switch up how he says thank you. This is insane. The corpo buff is REAL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19078305
aaaand, this option is busted too. Phone's USB port is all twitchy, can't handle the slightest movement without disconnecting and wifi isn't an option. I'll stick with my shit cam for now. Onward to the next step. Time to pick back up some blender tutorials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19080037
>>19080092
>Go to get a drink
>Come back
>He's still thanking
>People are eating it up
The top is the best place to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19075254
People that come out of this thread eventually end up becoming a part of one of the smaller indie circles around here. There aren't any real group lines drawn but a lot of /asp/ies still interact with other /asp/ies outside the thread
>>19076143
actually back in ages past there used to be separate male and female /asp/cords before they merged into one server

[Anonymous No.]

>>19080092
What he is supposed to do? Ignore them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19082177
I think there comes a point where you have to. It's a balance between "thankyouthankyouthankyou" and actual content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19083975
I think the femcels consider the kissing after each superchat and the constant back and forth flirting content. I wonder where I've seen this before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19084104
...You got a point, he is very BFE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19084183
>inb4 male Rushia

[Anonymous No.]

>>19084575
GFE vtubers and BFE vtubers are very different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19084651
If he leaks he got a gf, he is fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19084739
Doubtful, he seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't panic over it.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you recommend shilling in the trashcan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19085939
abso-fucking-lutely not, unless you want a bunch of horny lonely psychos as your fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>19085939
the trash is not a place to shill yourself as much as it is a bunch of people hanging out in a shared space with some schizos
you're more than free to post there but obviously make sure you're also spending time shilling in other places as well

[Anonymous No.]

i've heard people talking about trash before can someone explain where and what is. well i can imagine what it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>19086007
So if we want to be GFE/BFE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19086521
/wvt/ was a thread that had been moved to trash many months before /vt/ ever became a thing, so when this board was created, a lot of the anons chose to keep the trash/wvt/ up; the one you see on this board is a lot slower than the one in the trashbin but also it gets a lot more schizo
usually you'll see more selfposting there but also there's been some people trying to run selfposters off in recent weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19086792
>Go to check
>First post I read is a vocaroo of someone screaming that want their oshi to peg them
Strange but based

[Anonymous No.]

tfw another thread has made me consider being vtuba with London London debut and gimmick but also worry people would get sick of that quickly and find my tophat design annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>19061673
You're trying to network and get your name out there. Scroll all the way down a popular indies Twitter and you see they did the same thing (also replied to drop your PNGs). Its fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>19087270
>Scroll all the way down a popular indies Twitter and you see they did the same thing
I thought you could only scroll back a year or so.

>>19087201
Don't stick to a gimmick because that gets boring no matter what the gimmick is. just bee urself. But the top hat design might be based.

[Anonymous No.]

i kinda feel like selfposting more here and maybe over there, but i doubt i have anything schizos could find enjoyable

[Anonymous No.]

>>19087386

Debut: London London haha so funni very british innit

Fifth stream: *peels gloves off* Ok I hope you're ready for the gapmoe involved with this because I'm competetive in games and I WILL go a little countryside now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19087598
have you posted your links before? how long have you been streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19087855
i've posted twice, no real responses i've been streaming for roughly a year im probably not that entertaining

[Anonymous No.]

>>19088004
have you been interacting with other streamers or just hitting go live and doing whatever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19077468
Wrong. It's absolutely fine to do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19080092
Its a superchat reading stream, is this your first NijiEN stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19087386
Nah, you can scroll down to the bottom

[Anonymous No.]

>>19088087
i've started using twitter and joining discords but only recently. i don't like pushing myself, but i recognized it's important. so far i haven't really had any big interactions with streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19077468
this is only an issue if youre pushing BFE/GFE and even then Shirara kept her viewership just fine after her BF yab, worst that came from it was a meme on a thread 90+% of her viewership didn't use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19088233
Man these chuubas must be deleting their tweets before 2021.
>>19088121
>>19088868
True, it's only really important if you rely on your BFE/GFE image. If you don't, some viewers will get angry and some may leave but it at least won't be the majority.
Healthy individuals like myself don't care even if it is GFE (I love you, Rushia), but most viewers are schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19079764
Do you just use the in-platform youtube adverts, and do you stream on youtube too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19090840
I stream on YouTube too

[Anonymous No.]

>>19072480
come to my stream and bully me pls i want to start crying so simps feel bad and give me simpbucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092107
Be quiet stupid menhera

[Anonymous No.]

I've finally did my first stream!
>failed connection to Twitch that I did not notice
>forgot to turn it on, missing several minutes of me actually talking
>game crashed
>poorly configured filters swallowed first few sounds of every sentence
>around 25 minutes in sound disappeared entirely according to the Youtube dashboard
>after fixing it, the game refused to show itself on the screen
Man, was that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092482
You learn best by doing.
Keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092482
Practice with a video recording next time. Go over everything you'd do on a stream just skipping any filler and talk about some random shit to test audio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092548
Thanks. Been postponing it since November. If anything, feels much better than while I was thinking "tomorrow I will definitely start".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092320
at least i am female(female) at worst i will get dedicated small fanbase unlike (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092482
Good news is you had no one to drive away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19093051
I actually told a few pals about it. That's how I've found out about voice issues which, apparently, disappeared in the VOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092482
Anon, the first time I tried streaming I was playing the game for 40 minutes before realizing the video had frozen on the title screen.
You can only go up from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19092482
my first stream i linked to thrash and 4 people showed up, no one stayed and i gave up streaming sooon after

[Anonymous No.]

>>19078473
I like the autumn spirit PNGtuber boy.

[Anonymous No.]

Would a traditionally handsome male likely be better than a more bishie style one just by virtue of being more generally appealing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19099856
The question is, would the general audience watch you or a tradcam streamer? You're in a position of a sci-fi writer trying to win the Booker prize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19099856
There's no reason to have a super hot guy as your model unless you're pushing that type of content and there's no reason to even stream it if you don't have experience doing it to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19099856
bishie style is voice dependent.
also, the point of being a chuuba is you hide behind an avatar. not saying a handsome guy shouldn't be one, but your default looks should have 0 impact on your persona.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19105467
How's it going, Anyaposter? What streams have you watched lately?

[Anonymous No.]

There’s something that I find weird on Batatvideogames stats. On Jan to February 2020 her follower count literally goes from 100 to 1k in a month. Wtf happened during that time period that made her jump so quickly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19107968
It’s 2021 my bad. She was streaming to a few viewers for a whole year then jumps suddenly. Is this her being recommended by Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19108277
>Is this her being recommended by Twitch?
Recommendations work on an individual level and not sitewide level so that doesn't make sense. Twitch works like Youtube. It monitors your viewing habits and suggests chuubas who also watch chuubas that other viewers like you also watch. The growth would have to come somewhere else unless everyone started watching Bat and Bat-adjacent chuubas suddenly out of the blue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19107968
>>19108277
Viewbots

[Anonymous No.]

>>19107968
>Wtf happened during that time period that made her jump so quickly?
i don't recall what exactly what it was but i think that was the time she started doing those big interactive endurance challenge streams which i think really helped her grow; i think a lot of those challenge streams she's done has helped her grow
you have to also consider that she's someone who actually started streaming around 2014-2015 and only ever got big as Bat so she probably just kept trying things out until something stuck

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>>19023190
Tried streaming for the first time with a PNG avatar I threw together in a few minutes. I thought I was good at talking but wow this was way harder than I thought it'd be. Worst part was just talking to the zero viewer wall.

Oh well, I think a couple bots saw me at least. We're all going to make it anons

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>>19110379
it's great that you're starting, anon! but more bots are gonna come. better ban them early before you have like 10+ bots clogging up your stream

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>>19105633
I’ve been busy but I’m getting through it. Streams that work as podcasts have been helpful right now. I’m listening to Nelson’s bass buying stream right now.

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>>19110379
>Worst part was just talking to the zero viewer wall.
0viewers is a beginner's problem that'll go away with time. it's only an issue for the first month or two then stops being a thing you ever think about.

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another week
once again no progress

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Any small victories lately you wanna share /asp/ies?

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>>19114009
i finally hit this after about a year of streaming

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>>19115131
why aren't you linking

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>>19115206
i link myself on twitter and i get linked in /wvt/, silly
i've posted my link in /asp/ a couple of times though

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>>19114009
I got 2 profile views from a twitter post with 40 interactions.

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>>19115131
nice job anon, I'm only 1/3rd of the way there, but I've only recently started acting outside of streaming. Did anything stand out to you in process? did anything you do help you specifically or was it a slow grind? id be interested in ccv analytics over the year.

i remember for the 2 weeks i streamed ragnarok online i got like 10-15 viewers average but i just couldn't keep playing the game. i get a couple returning viewers now but i need to try to get more viewers for their sake too, otherwise they have nobody to talk to except me

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>>19116506
honestly after my first month i've pretty much hovered around 7-10 ccv monthly but some games that i've been streaming recently have picked up more viewers than the stuff i usually play
the biggest thing for this month though was that i did two big event streams that had really high amounts of viewers i guess but i do know that those aren't exactly an indicator of growth but it did give me some confidence that i have the ability to come up with ideas that people would want to actually see

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>>19116862
seems like you've been putting in work even before you started then. i wish you the best of luck for the future. i might have to motivate myself by getting a new model and thinking about some cool things for the stream while also working on my personality.

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>>19023190
I got my design drawn and now I need to find a rigger, I have a 20% of fiverr coupon, maybe i'll see if there's anyone good in there.

>>19114009
People have seen my unlisted test videos I made.

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What's a good average stream length?
I tend to get exhausted after about 2 and a half hours.
Should I work on my endurance?

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>>19110693
Are bots really that bad? I assumed they were harmless, they didn't chat or anything. I only noticed them when I clicked "Users in Chat" in OBS

>>19112893
I believe you anon, going to work on sharpening my skills in the meantime. Best of luck to you too.

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>>19118768
3-4 is the sweet spot unless you have pre-planned content

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>>19118768
>Should I work on my endurance?
it really depends. stream normally but look at your graphs later. do your viewer counts stagnate after a certain time and just level off or does it look like it could have kept growing if you streamed longer? adjust your time accordingly. you should be working on improving your endurance anyway.

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Good night /asp/, have a bump before i go to bed

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>>19112242
Would you like to see more podcast style content from chuubas?

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How many scams have you encountered or fallen for? I think I have lost about $180 since 1 year ago.

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>>19114009
My average views over the past 3 months are over 30 now, and that feels really nice. I need to keep working hard to make sure I'm doing content that people enjoy and want to watch.

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>>19125046
Zero, I'm no retard. Worst thing that's happened to be was being on a waitlist (didn't have to pay yet) and the artist forgetting about me.

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>>19125428
i learn my lesson never comission an low number twitter artist

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>>19125528
If they're on a website that guarantees service like fiverr or skeb it's fine, but DA or through twitter or their own site is always awful.

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>>19125306
What have you been doing to get to that level, anon?

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>>19127059
Streaming consistently since last July, and just really trying to do my best at making engaging content. I've been figuring out what kinds of streams I enjoy doing most, and have been fortunate that they resonate with people. I try to play to my strengths without making it the only thing I do (singing).

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>>19126351
lesson learn

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>>19125046
On who? and where?
Can't relate though
>Always take risks and commission people who have never had a customer
>Always pleasantly surprised and cheap prices help too

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>>19131371
I like taking chances on new skeb artists that are cheap

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When is the best time to play a new video game? From my experience as a gamer, people won’t watch someone play because they’re afraid of getting spoiled from release. At the same time followers of a game on Twitch are most active somewhere near release. Anyone experienced here have a strategy for this?

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>>19125046
As someone that used to participate in shitcoins, I have lost and gained thousands of dollars in a day because of scams

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>>19138904
>When is the best time to play a new video game?
it doesn't matter

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>>19139492
There's even big streamers talking about how much it's mattered, I've seen people I watch down thousands of viewers. It absolutely matters even moreso for smaller streamers.

>>19138904
Play it yourself offline, wait a month or two, wipe your save then call it a "First Time" playthrough.

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>>19110379
Talking to a wall is not a problem at all when you realize most big streamers talk to massive walls of emotes that it’s basically the same thing. Gotta work on being able to come up with something to say on the spot all the time (which, yes, is hard). You can’t ever rely on the chat to bring content for you

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>>19139492
It matters a lot idiot

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>>19139983
>There's even big streamers talking about how much it's mattered
you're not at their level. it doesn't matter. a huge day 1 stream for Asmongold is fucking huge and could easily make 2-3 months of donations. it means nothing for a 2view like you.
>>19140466
hi asmongold, didn't know you were a chuuba.

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>>19140544
Have you ever streamed at all? Anyone that plays a game on release is taking a massive hit because of the amount of people streaming a game on a category. ASmongold can hit the top of the category because rot his numbers but a 2view is getting 0views because they’re not gonna get discovered.

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>>19140809
>Anyone that plays a game on release is taking a massive hit because of the amount of people streaming a game on a category
that must be where there are literal hundreds of 0-1 views streaming Elden Ring right now, right?

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>>19140226
>most big streamers talk to massive walls of emotes that it’s basically the same thing.
It isn't the same thing at all and this doesn't become an issue until you're well, well within the thousands. Those big streamers with walls of emotes are getting a reaction, they're getting responses to pick from, are fed zingers they can steal from chat, etc. It's not the same as talking to literally no one and getting no reaction or response.

Every joke you say, how do you know it falls flat? Or if it's great? Big streamers get walls of KEKWs, Omegaluls, Pepelaughs. They get a response even if they aren't able to read every individual message.

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>Have to find a rigger that's good and I can trust
Fug

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>>19140544
Asmongold's viewership playing Elden Ring is the lowest its' been since his return from hiatus. Big streamers AND small streamers experience dips in viewership from playing new games, except Asmongold missing 5k viewers isn't nearly as bad as a small streamer 5, or not even being looked at because of it.

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>>19141192
only rule of thumb i can give you is that good riggers will never contact you first. for everything else vtuber.gg has a good number of riggers that are vetted by Iron Vertex mod team.

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>>19140933
No, it is the exact same thing. It’s easy to have a conversation with chat if you’re a small vtuber since chat is slow but if you’ve ever had a fast chat conversations start to disappear and you’ll be responding to a message from one person every 100 messages until you reach a point where you can barely read the chat anymore. Some big streamers like Marine or Pekora don’t even bother reading chat during play through because of that. You’re the person responsible for content not the chat.

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Literally every streamer i watch has gone down significantly in viewers, from the people with 30k viewers to the people with a hundred. I've seen friends who normally have 15-20 stream it to 5. You can't deny it's drops across the board

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>>19141659
>but if you’ve ever had a fast chat conversations start to disappear and you’ll be responding to a message from one person every 100 messages
this is bullshit. 99% of the messages that come through when you have that much chat is shit you don't have to reply or respond to. i have a 65 viewer average and almost every message is just
>emote spams
>LULs and KEKWs
>other reactions to whatever is happening in game
i barely have any viewer actually trying to start a convo. the only ones i notice are the schizos that try to take over a stream with their bullshit.

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>>19141659
You’re the person responsible for content not the chat.

Streamers like Zentreya, Naggzz, Erobb, and Zoil would disagree. Not all streamers are just talking and ignoring chat, chat can be an important part of a streamer's content as well.

It's not even remotely the same and I'm going to go ahead and go with what I've heard some of those bigger streamers say about their streams when they were smaller and not a random /asp/ie. People need to pay more attention to traditional facecam streamers and less to this thread.

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>>19142220
You do you but if you’re incapable of being entertaining with no viewers at all you’re never gonna get good thinking of what to say on your feet. I’m not saying to ignore chat, but you need to be good enough that you can be entertaining enough without chat.

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You can tell who actually watches big streamers and who just clicks their stream or sees fast chats in videos.

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>>19141652
>that are vetted by Iron Vertex mod team.
That's good to know at least

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>>19143197
full disclosure, they have one or two scammers every other month. they have a discord where they make announcements. so faggots do slip by now and then. but for the most part, everyone there is legit.

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>>19142076
>almost every message is just
>>emote spams
>>LULs and KEKWs
naw bro you have to reply to every KEKW and name each viewer personally or you'll never make it.