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I mean, even if you look at them like the most evil, profit thirsty black company this all doesn't make sense. They not only lost their most superchated talent, but a lot of fans that gone with her, not to metion the heavy damage that the mark sustained from all this. That clause Rushia broke fucked up both sides of the equation. It would only make sense for them to enter in a agreement with the rest of the girls and try to fix some things.

>> No.19009706

>>19008845
why on earth would they change the contract after firing someone for breaching what is in every single fucking corpo contract?

>> No.19009907

>>19008845
Why would you terminate a million dollar maker?
This company is fucking retarded and even more their retarded contract.
I would have never let Coco or Rushia go.

I also hate how shady these people are.
>We graduate Coco for reasons
It was obviously not the Taiwan slip, since also Gura pulled a Taiwan
>We graduate Aloe for reasons
Obviously not for showing a model since Laplus also showed Botan's new model
>We graduate Rushia for reasons
Supposed for leaks and yet no leak seems to rrat around

>> No.19010045

even when i worked for a grocery chain they had an nda, why the fuck would a huge tech company that needs to protect the identity of its employees remove the nda from its contract? leaking company info, however small, is a breach of contract and a fireable offense. after her yab she was already on thin ice, but she couldn't be patient and let the company handle it and instead burned her whole empire down.

>> No.19010134

They didn't HAVE to enforce the terms of the contract. They chose to do so.

>> No.19010193

>>19009907
It's all definition, corporate speak. If they wanted to fire her, they just had to treat her talking to Korekore, hence linking her with the roommate as a 'leak', and boom, breached contract.

>> No.19010263

>>19009907
>yet no leak seems to rrat around
the one person who got the leaked information was smart enough to shut up.

that's why

>> No.19010287

>Cover black company meme
*Yawn*

>> No.19010835

>>19010134
you dont let an employee flout a core responsibility in such a brazen manner and let them get away with it you nigger

>> No.19010885

Cover is fucking up in how they support their talent. It's clear these girls need not only managers, but also some sort of personal assistant to keep from making big yabs.

>> No.19010950

They got balls.

I like balls.

>> No.19011002

>its like a skinny idol drama
>fan said please feed them
>idol get fat
>fan disowned idol

>> No.19011427

>>19010263
>Firing a million dollar talent because she leaked something to someone who would not say a thing
Are you retarded?

>> No.19011511

>>19008845
>if a yab happens you are contractually obliged to not be retarded and let us handle everything

>> No.19011756

>>19008845
Cover is fucked, their brand is broken.
The GFE is fake.
The friendships are fake.
Friend is fake.
Just a black company wrangling a bunch of e-girls who all sleep around, gossip, menhera meltdown, back stab and hate each other into a slice of life anime illusion.

>> No.19013073

>>19011756
cope

>> No.19014171

>>19013073
What did he need to cope for?

>> No.19014237

>>19008845
Why would they do that? At this point Rushia was clearly a liability. After having been exposed to be seeing men on the side, she couldn't have maintained that GFE image of hers and reflected badly on the company. Contrary to what left-wing twitter might tell you: they made the right decision.

>> No.19014875

>>19009907
Because if leaking shit to e-paparazzi whenever any sort of personal controversy happens is a far darker path that can damage everyone as a whole. If you are going to act like that, just go indie.
Also Coco and Aloe left on their own accord, they weren't literally fired like Rushia was.

>> No.19015039

>>19011756
We're not talking about AnyColor right now though

>> No.19015042

>>19014237
She wasn't fired for the boyfriend shit, there are other holos who are rumored to be with bfs and even married. If Cover wanted to fire her for that they wouldn't have put out their initial declaration that private lives didn't matter.
It's how she reacted to the drama that did her in.

>> No.19015105

>>19008845
They should change their crisis management process. Next time a top holo gets targeted, she shouldn't have to fend for herself. Clearly Coco and Haachama thought Cover's support was inadequate as well. This is not an individual case, but just the latest of talents having to leave after a crisis. Next time it could be Fubuki or Pekora.

>> No.19015211

>>19011756
This. Going back to real anime now.

>> No.19015220

>>19015105
>she shouldn't have to fend for herself
How could Cover "defend" her?
>but just the latest of talents having to leave after a crisis
She didn't leave, she was kicked out.

>> No.19015258

>>19014875
In Coco's case, she left on her own accord, but why is more important why she left in the first place, Cover didn't give her anything other that restricting and banning her from events, constantly refusing her stream ideas, and borderline harrasing her with "incidents" like, moding antis, "forgetting" to invite her to the new year event, banning EN to interact, heck, even speak her name. All they gave her was stress, yet took 50%(at best) from her revenue.
So she left on her (not so)own accord.

>> No.19015324

>>19009907
You do understand that just one Rushia = whole 50 talents? Okayu's birthday merch earned somewhere around $400k alone. If the shit that Rushia leaked went viral with Korekore, then it'd could spell doom to the company themselves.

>> No.19015336

>Coco left on her accord
lmao this board is an actual joke

>> No.19015383

>>19015336
Proof that she was fired?

>> No.19015488

>>19015383
>c-cover did nothing wrong
20c has been deposited into your account

>> No.19015533

>>19015220
Whenever a crisis breaks out, there could be a playbook of things the talent and staff are trained to do. Who handles the communication, was (legal) steps to take, who to debunk false claims etc. So the talent doesn't have to go on her own. Her leaving was a clear result of the crisis management process not working.

>> No.19015570

>>19015336
Fired people don't do graduation streams.

>> No.19015576

>>19009907
If she held the keys to an actual "final yab", then any company would seriously nail that talent for breaking NDA.

>> No.19015617

>>19015336
Cover fucked up big time with Coco but when it's a bunch of crazy rrats, vs every talent saying Cover wasn't trying to bully her out and in fact was really trying to get her to change her mind, gee, who do I trust?
Not the fucking baseless rrats.

>> No.19015622

>>19009907
because she actively threatened to kill herself under the rushia name and actively pretended to kill herself under her personal name specifically targetting someone to make them feel guilty
she can be worth twice her amount and she'd still be dropped

>> No.19015625 [SPOILER] 
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I know we all like to joke that Cover is a black company but at this point it really seems that way. They fire one of their most successful talents just because she has a boyfriend and they wanted to dodge drama AFTER putting out a PR notice that "talents are allowed to have boyfriends it's none of our business lol".

The NDA thing is a total excuse, lots of them have leaked their discord or slack screen and never been fired for it. None of the info in that leak was at all useful to doxxfags and it wouldn't be all that expensive/time-consuming to just hold a company wide meeting telling talents to go through the company first when doing shit like this so they can vet it for leaks. Instead they fire her to "make an example" after last week getting on their high horse and pretending like they support their talents. This is 100% black company behavior to discourage their other talents from ever having yabs like this and I wouldn't be surprised if the EOP's on Twitter figure it out and it turns into a PR nightmare for Cover when they could've just quietly waited a few months and let her contract expire on its own to save face.

See you guys in NijiEN, at least Nijisanji has fully supported Roa through 1.5 years of litigation and look forward to having her back instead of throwing her under the bus.

>> No.19015678

>>19010134
Well yeah.
Then if it ever came out they didn't enforce their contract, they would be a black company then?
Lol.

>> No.19015704

>>19015533
Right, but doesn't that still involves lines in the sand like "do not talk to drama channels"? If a talent is told that and still does it, isn't that an issue?

>> No.19015709

>>19015383
Forced to leave doesn't mean fired. In corporations people get shown the door all the time in all kinds of ways. In my own job I've seen so many statements of "is going to retire", "has decided to pursue other avenues", even one that said "is going to pursue his hobby as a pilot". They also move you around with the intention of you resigning on your own. It's the way corporations work. Also so they don't have to pay you a severance package.

>> No.19015717

>>19015625
Holy fuck, go back.

>> No.19015734

>>19015625
there are members who are already married, retard. They don't fire you just because you have a boyfriend. Have some common sense.

>> No.19015769

>>19015625
But they booted Meiro... for doing what Rushia did here...

>> No.19015778

>>19008845
They need to change the contract for managers so they have someone who can give support 24/7 if shit like this happens so their talent doesn't have a chance to go full menhera and do stupid shit like leak info in a desperate attempt to solve the issue themselves

>> No.19015802

>>19015042
>there are other holos who are rumored to be with bfs and even married.

>rumored

That's the point. When you are an idol you have to keep these things to yourself.

>> No.19015809

>>19015625
She ratted out confidential shit about her character to a drama mill. Where the hell have you been?

>> No.19015818

*CLAP*
*CLAP*
Next meme!

>> No.19015843
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>>19008845
Rushia whether accidentally or not, whether it was one time or many times, did doxx her coworkers and other Hololive staff. That is grounds to fire someone and well within Cover's rights to do so. However I also believe Cover dropped the ball with how they handled the situation from the second Mafu dropped the discord message up till now. Cover should have taken a heavy hand to the situation and assigned PR staff and a plan to Rushia and constantly monitor everything she does and steer her out of this bad situation but instead they did a passive approach and now nobody wins in the end, Rushia's career is over, Holomems are going to be affected by the fallout for months, and Cover looks increasingly incompetent and unprepared. Of course that would mean Cover would have to reflect upon itself and we know that won't happen.

>> No.19015926

Of course, OP. To make sure this doesn't happen again, Cover will now adopt a "three strikes and you're out" approach to DMing drama channels sensitive NDA-protected information that could jeopardize the future of the company and the safety of the talents.

>> No.19015931

>>19015802
But she had proof she didn't have him as a bf. The issue was that to show the proof, she needed to leak way too much.
Kinda crazy, I fully believe now that she didn't have a BF at all and the two were just friends or still in an early flirty convos level. But she rushed to a drama channel that stabbed her in the back.

>> No.19015970

>>19015617
>believes the creative differences horseshit
>calls everything else baseless
reddit is not sending their best

>> No.19016113

>>19015970
>No trust me, not the graduated person or everyone else, see, this drama channel said they wanted to kick Coco out so they could return to China!

>> No.19016119

>>19008845
It goes without saying, that something is happening/happened behind the scenes.

>> No.19016145

>>19015843
I see dox stuff in every post.
But there 0 proof

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>>19015931
>I fully believe now that she didn't have a BF

>> No.19016384 [SPOILER] 

>>19015769
You guys need to learn to read between the lines. Meiro was booted because she was creating a hostile work environment and they finally got sick of her shit with a lot of her past life shit coming to light before she was fired. Rushia was booted because Cover is incapable of shielding their talents from harassment or drama and it was going to impact her earning potential and the reputation of the company by breaking the GFE facade.

If it was truly about leaking confidential information there wouldn't be so many in both companies leaking their discord or roommate stuff and getting away with it unscathed. For example Millie Parfait was literally following her Nijisanji identity on her PL's YT acc and the worst that happened was she deleted it. Now if the company was looking for an excuse to get rid of her they might make up some bullshit about "NDA breach" but corporations really only enforce NDA's when it's convenient to do so.

The part about Nijisanji in the last post was just to bait retards, they both behave the same way when it comes to protecting themselves and throwing talents under the bus at the worst possible times.

>> No.19016503

>>19016384
We don't know what the extent of the leaking was. there could be DMs they found with tons of stuff that was leaked going back for awhile its not necessarily just her roomate stuff.

>> No.19016622

>>19016145
I haven't seen it myself but apparently Rushia in an attempt to clear up the Mafumafu mess shared screencaps of her discord messages to a youtube tabloid guy and due to her panic and never being in this type of situation ever, forgot to edit out names, addresses, and other sensitive information and the tabloid guy posted.

>> No.19016687 [SPOILER] 

>>19016503
If we don't know the extent of the leaks then are they really leaks? As far as we know she sent chatlog screenshots to one dude, that isn't worth firing your most successful talent over and at this point people are tired of giving Cover the benefit of the doubt due to incompetent management when it's starting to look outright malicious.

>> No.19016758

>>19015039
Absolute cope.

>> No.19016901

>>19016687
Thats what we know about, while looking into this Cover could have found a bunch of other stuff. if shes sending video stuff to fans secretly she could have been sending them upcoming event leaks, outfit leaks and other stuff we have no idea.

If it was just the stuff we KNOW about then yes i fully agree, i don't think they would have fired their main cash cow if it was just that though.

>> No.19016954

>>19016687
>If we don't know the extent of the leaks then are they really leaks?
I don't speak Japanese, therefor Rushia is incapable of doing anything wrong.

>> No.19016964

>>19015336
Coco left and Cover still isn't back on the Chinese market, literally the only reason they could've fired her for

>> No.19017013

>Cover: "Oh you sleep around with your bf and lie to your fans, who give you money? That's fine, just bring in the profits."
>Cover: "OH YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HURT OUR BUSINESS?? YOU ARE FIRED AND I SUE YOU FOR DAMAGES!! "

>> No.19017155

>>19017013
Shut the fuck up, unicorn. She is not your pure waifu. None of them are. Most of them have boyfriends. Deal with it.

>> No.19017347

>>19016113
>China
lol what? she was suspended over showing analytics. Nothing ever happened to Coco or Cover related to China. Geez don't believe every keemstar vtuber you hear anon.

>> No.19017377

>>19017155
Yes, and the point is that cover doesn't have a spine, just an oversized nose.

>> No.19018079

Cover will pay for this. This is the last straw on the camels back. Coco was a big yet volountary loss; this is not. This recent action of cover will be their downfall.

Multiple graduations or terminations within 2022 alone. Mark my words. 7th trumpet.

>> No.19018242

>>19018079
Here it is, there's always a holodoom post anytime this happens and every time it falls flat on it's ass.
You guy shure like to act like hot shit and end up shitting your pants, i see why the Qanon shit was popular

>> No.19018490

>>19018079
JP seventh generation will be release and no one will care

>> No.19018501

>>19015625
>100% black company behavior
Its actually Anycooler burning their money laundering funds, its too obvious

>> No.19018539

>>19009907
I don't really know how people can still defend cover over their talents anymore, they've done nothing but fuck up with their success lmao. Shit tier black company

>> No.19018589

>>19017155
>t. Not a unicorn
Poor free entertainment fags it is

>> No.19018642

>>19010134
yup, try all you want no one can dispute this

>> No.19018689

hey bros, you ever stop to watch the video you're rratting about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBlDJTC09SU
>doxxed other people
based on the only piece of evidence, that's wrong and just pure speculation from drama fags.

>> No.19018707

>>19018539
Because rushia is fucking retarded and earned her exit. You can shit on Cover but they did the right thing here.

>> No.19018828

>>19018539
Its to convenient. Why go to war against 50 chuubas for 1? Only maybe a couple percent of people will feel this way, the rest will want hololive to continue as it is so they more than willingly will throw the isolated one in the trash can without a second though.

>> No.19018906

>>19018828
We never learn... I didn't like them but the other big victims? Aloe, Coco, now Rushia? Chris is completely different and actual on screen evidence.

>> No.19018966

>>19008845
Will it stop HoloEN from hiring menheras? Will they finally start doing proper background checks?

>> No.19019013

>>19018906
go back

>> No.19019074

>>19019013
Trying too hard to fit in

>> No.19019239

>>19008845
Most likely the managers will now oversee the twitter accounts.

The dumb e-thots cannot be trusted with their DMs and shit. Kson is right again.

>> No.19019362

>>19019239
>the talents are locked in cages and only allowed to come out during streams, also they are forbidden to have any outside contact that is not strictly monitored
HoloNorthKorea!

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If anything I'd like to thank Rushia for forcing Cover's hand, there would be no more Trash Taste collabs after this, no more pandering to ecelebs, none. Bad times are over.

>> No.19021541

>>19019239
>Kson is right again
What did she say? i am not doubting you i just want to know more about it.

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