Ruins your immersion

[Anonymous No.]

>ENVtubers posting selfies everywhere
>Big timers egging them on while not posting their own selfies
Is this a psyop to get the small vtubers to ruin their brand so they can never pose a challenge in the future, all while the bigger vtubers get to pretend to be on the side of "justice"? Ever since the big vtubers started condoning this trend, the smaller vtubers have been disowning the HALF of their audience that don't want the immersion ruined.

[Anonymous No.]

god i hate women

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
immersion break?
more like enforcing my immersion that you're a vapid shallow bitch UWU

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
These IRL women posting selfies are ruining it for us 30yr old men with voice changers

[Anonymous No.]

>see a gimmick meant to suck money from losers
>use it
>"why are there so many losers??"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
>when you're so boring that you have to show your actual face
it's all a cope on how shit they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936338
All the succesful civilizations are misoginists for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936437
>projecting on 4chan
oh shit nigger, what are you doing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
It's people who don't know their potential audience self-destructing by doing dumb stunts.
They seem to think that their Twitter bubbles are a good representation of your usual vtuber watcher

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Op its just cleansing. They were garbage anyway if they did this. They just did it for complements. Their heart was never in it

[Anonymous No.]

>Vtubers
>Posts selfies anyway (??????)
>Pretends that they're somehow morally superior by doing so
>Belittles everyone in their fanbase that watches vtubers specifically for the immersion
Horrible PR move, that's why you might notice that not a single vtuber who's part of a big company like Hololive has been allowed to jump on this shitty trend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
/vt/ in shambles after getting roasted by this biblebelt vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

OP is right, its best for them to keep it secret for years and have it all come out cause they where to stupid to do basic opsec.
Also, imagine crying about them posting selfies when you fags doxx these poor girls the instant they utter a single word, you guys pour over old tweets and accounts like you're looking for a murderer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
I had an image about how women are irrational animals that only see value in sex and blablabla but I cant find it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
At the very least, it makes it much easier for the vtubers who didn't post their selfies to get hired by the bigger corps since these idiots just threw up double red flags by making themselves easier to dox and demonstrating poor PR handling skills, so it's not all bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Girlfriend experience? How about you experience getting some bitches

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Lol that's pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

Were you this buttblasted that you had to make this thread again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Real alpha stacey vibes, i like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936637

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
>Hahahaha you don't like to look at my selfies because you are a fucking incel with no bitches
Why are Indies like this? the vtuber format became popular because is not supposed to be realistic it's where people can reach the peak of their imagination

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
I started thinking more on this recently, like if there are certain things people are annoyed by and then someone will pretend to be friendly while shepherding the person they secretly hate to do the annoying thing. I wouldn't put it past humanity to have people like this, sabotage is a word after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
>ENVtubers posting selfies everywhere
You faggots keep saying this but I've only seen that one vshoujo slut do it. Where are the rest?

[Anonymous No.]

VTubers are basically e-girls with an anime avatar. So it's ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>get into vtubers because I'm lonely
>now they want me to kick me out because I'm lonely

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936522
>not a single vtuber who's part of a big company like Hololive has been allowed to jump on this shitty trend.
What about Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936787
>Where are the rest?
Debut TBA

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936825
Surely the next hobby we find will be safe LOL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936787
Go on Twitter and search "ruin immersion" and you'll see it. You don't even need to add a #Vtuber tag or anything since they're the only ones using those two words together like that right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936825
Should have getekept harder
No hobby is safe from jews and women. It's up to men, even lonely men, tp safeguard it from exploitation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936825
>>now they want me to kick me out because I'm lonely
No, they want to kick you out because you're a disgusting schizophrenic creep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936825
this is why you gatekeep

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936843
>>Where are the rest?
>Debut TBA
hehehhehehehehe
those women are the worst. Talking about shit they aint even really involved with. I guess they are giving their money to talented artists so thats ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936843
heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
The only EN i care about is the fish.
.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936843
PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTT

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
>chibidoki
God damn it. I actually kinda watched her.
So that's how it feels, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936884
yeah but these are were desperate for more likes on their selfies from the start

my oshi will never betray me or vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>/vt/ thinks they need to gatekeep everyone else
Yeah because I'm sure every vtuber wants an unmedicated schizophrenic audience that spreads lies about them and would kill them without a second thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
The thing that sickens me about all this is that these fucks are acting like they have moral superiority while punching WAAAAY down at fucks who have no social lives or social skills.
Yeah they're fucking losers but it's not exactly by choice, here we make fun of them but we don't pretend we're good people for doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Reminder that this is an anti Loli vtuber that uses a Loli model and her way of cope is calling it a "Chibi art style"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936900
>>18936936
I did my best. But damn, are there a lot of people on twitch.

>>18936928
You're oversocialized.

[Anonymous No.]

>ENtuber proudly "ruins your immersion"
>selfie is so caked in editing and filters they could have just posted their avatar and gotten the same result

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937011
chibi has always acted like this
i don't even think she posted her rtx model just is making fun of the same people who she makes fun of every day on her streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936825
Were you not aware that vtubers are just e-girls or something? Even on the Japanese side they all look down on their viewers as nothing more than a paycheck. If you don't enjoy their content beyond fantasizing about them as your imaginary girlfriend then you probably need a different hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

I watch a lot of EN vtubers and nobody I follow is falling for this retarded meme or is just making fun of it with obvious shitposts (ex. posting a picture of a dog when they're a dog vtuber or the like)
The only people actually posting selfies are the ones that aren't worth following

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937074
>You're oversocialized.
You need professional help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936843
>It's true
OH NO NO NO HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936936
>gatekeeping streaming with an anime avatar
What are you going to do, say they don't have the right to use it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937165
you need a nigger raping your anus

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937167
how can you "ruin immersion" when i was never immersed to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937165
I hope you obtain sentience soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
I want to give money to cute 2D girls not e-thots

[Anonymous No.]

>watching western vtubers
You brought this upon yourself
They don't understand what this is about, they just act like normal twitch thots

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937204
by forcing your viewers to learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>bitches rushing to some random trend that doesn't even concern them for internet clout
Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
I think framing this around immersion is bad for two reasons. First of all it's centered solely around your point of view in which case you would first need to convince someone why they should even care. This is why people don't address this notion but instead just throw insults at it. The second reason is that it's just kinda petty, even if it's true. Who gives a fuck about immersion would be a kind of legitimate question to ask. A better framing would probably be professionalism because in that case retaliating like picrel would just play into your hands. It's just a stronger argument, really. You won't convince those types anyway. If they like to insert themselves into vtubing just to get some clout for their own ego you should probably just call it out as such and be a little more aggressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936884
>Only ones doing it are a bunch of trend hopping 2veiws desperate for attention
If these retards want to self-destruct like this, then by all means let them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937247
Its time to wake up anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936841
Mori has done this on the Hololive channel "Calliope Mori"?
No?
Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937204
you say things like >>18937211

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936900
>No hobby is safe from jews and women.
You that as if V-tubing doesn't almost entirely revolve around women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937247
watch anime? why are you watching vtubers if that's what you want to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937224
I actually don't even get their game plan, okay let's say best case scenario you're dropdead gorgeous IRL, why the hell would I decide to watch you when you're going to cover that up with a vtuber model
It's like going to a restaurant run personally by a double-digit Michelin Star chef and ordering only the wine

[Anonymous No.]

In all honesty, I never really cared about this but it's so weird to see that it became a trend, but I also blame the fans to care so much about who's behind the avatar, even corpo fans love to go about how beautiful their oshi is IRL in this very same board

So I think the actual point is getting a chance to go "look I'm actually very attractive IRL too" while hiding behind the excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937204
A couple uohposts a day is enough to keep communities healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

I did once, she kicked me to the curb after 7 years and took half my shit. So yeah I think I will cope by watching LARP anime girls (that aren't lazy hoes like Mori)

[Anonymous No.]

>get into a hobby that makes lonely men feel happy
>keep bashing lonely men
Genuinely asking, why does this keep happening? Because there's money to be made while getting brownie points?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937414

[Anonymous No.]

This man is Patrick Stewart. You might know him as Captain Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek TNG. But he doesn't wear a Starfleet uniform unless he's filming Star Trek. He even plays other characters sometimes.

Question: Is Star Trek TNG now ruined?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
How is this dumb take getting traction? Nobody wants the wrestler Kane to unmask in the middle of a wrestling match and start talking about the price of gasoline, or some actor in the middle of a capeshit scene to break character and rip a fart and then talk about his dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937360
their game plan is to filter out disgusting virgin nerds, duh. I never knew why this board thinks losers were the majority of the vtuber fanbase since like 2018. Several marshmallow readings already indicated that the audience is full of socially stable individuals that have a spouse or are dating

[Anonymous No.]

If I were a vtuber or even a normal streamer, if I could help it, I would never put my real face out there. I value my privacy and safety and those of my family and friends too much and I know how nuts fans can be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
>trekky being retarded
of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937322
No, but she's made it very hard to miss. Susan recommended a clip with a thumbnail of her roommate's face just because I've watched Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Jesus I hate this bitch. Youtube keeps recommending me her clips and they are so tryhard and painfully unfunny. Literally every clip:

>Chibi talking normally
>"Oh wow, look at this cute smol anime gurl!"
>Suddenly shouting and cussing and shit talking chat
>"OMG LUL, I sure didn't expect THAT out of such a cute smol anime gurl!"

[Anonymous No.]

At least post their faces idiots

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937549
Okay - insert a different actor then and answer the question, you dumb deflecting faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936900
>from jews
you mean amerilards

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
Well, if Picard suddenly looked at the screen, started talking about how this is all fiction then went "ha, take that trekkies", then yes, I think fans would be displeased.

[Anonymous No.]

>EN
There's your problem. Stop supporting EN trash.

[Anonymous No.]

isn't the concept of virtual youtubers is that they exist in a separate reality that doesn't concern our reality? If you're going to reveal your face anyway, why do you need an avatar?

>>18937600
retarded questions deserve stupid answers

[Anonymous No.]

>actively hate everything that doesn't come from hololive
>spend all day making 50+ threads about how [whichever holo is getting the two minutes hate treatment] deserves to die a painful death for talking to a boy
>act like you're the only true audience for vtubers
I really don't get /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937577
>imagine this japanese anime girl being an idol.. but didnt act like it, haha!
nice job

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937518
I dunno. Its like when Twitter gimmick accounts start talking about politics or some other shit. Nobody fucking cares bitch talk about the shit people followed u for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937639
>/vt/ is a person
>>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
>unless he's filming Star Trek
The difference is that when he's filming Star Trek he's never Patrick Stewart. He's always Picard. What would happen if he during an episode suddenly addressed the audience as Patrick Stewart? Answer: It would shatter your fucking immersion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937543
Do you actually believe this?
Let me let you in on a little secret: Most people online don't want anyone to know their actual social situation in real life. 4chan is a bit of a special place in that a good chunk of people can allow themselves to admit that they're losers. (Because it won't follow them forever because of anonymity.) In most other nerdy communities, you simply pretend to be a well-adjusted and successful person, in order to fit in with all the other losers who pretend the same way.
Oh hell, I know you're just trying to troll. Still, food for thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937543
Even if we entertain your hypothetical, if anything it's filtering the more harmless sort of 'disgusting virgin nerd' for the more dangerous garden-variety schizo, the ones who'll stalk you anyway and use your face for weird shit.
For celebrities and facecam streamers they don't care, it's an occupational hazard. For a vtuber it's idiotic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937518
Just whores using it as an excuse to post their face online, now if this could somehow weave into them posting their tits online, that would be nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
If I was a more vindictive person I would take this as an invitation to doxx

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937140
>vtubers are just e-girls or something
Say it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937700
Make one thread against the /vt/ hivemind. I fucking dare you. Even reddit isn't this much of an echo chamber

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
Isn't this the x-men guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
Stage actors are not allowed to greet the audience before or after a show while in costume/makeup. If you did that as a stage actor and weren't already famous, you wouldn't get another job.

Also, a lot of actors who get huge roles can't find another role after that because their face is so immediately connected with the character they played that they can't play another one anymore.

Also what the other anon said, he wouldn't stop in the middle of a scene or at the end of an episode and say "lmao immersion ruined, you trekkies are cringe"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937790
Haha, are you retarded? People bicker on this board like nothing else. How can it be an echo chamber when nobody ever agrees with each other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937518
>or some actor in the middle of a capeshit scene to break character and rip a fart
Speak for yourself, that shit sounds funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937742
anonymity and pretending to be a character has been optional ever since jap voice actors and jap artists got into vtubing. You're just trying to force holoshit into the majority

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937790
>Even reddit isn't this much of an echo chamber
GO BACK

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937518
Those people are men. This is about women empowerment or some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937790
>Even reddit isn't this much of an echo chamber
Damn bro, maybe you should stay there???

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937777
Those numbers...
I kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937777
double dubs of based truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Never forget

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937849
>>18937882

[Anonymous No.]

>unironically using the vtuber tag
What went wrong bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937923
Yeah and that caused her mama to basically stop taking requests from foreigners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937930
at least you confessed

[Anonymous No.]

Jap Corpo chuubas are superior because they keep leashes on these EN whores short enough that they can't give their garbage hot takes or do face reveals

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937989
You confessed to having zero bitches lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937930
How does the redditor mind operate that comind staying in this shithole that they hate and where they're not wanted makes them "chads".

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937613
If you want to be a vtuber yourself you kind of have to interact with the community even if it's mostly cringe people LARPing as talking dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938024
>zero
You're still here though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937615
Potato, potato

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937337
Playing their role not having an opinion.
Here take the coin and dance you stupid monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938052
I don't know but he's a faggot for dragging Yotsuba into this, not that he'd know.

[Anonymous No.]

>This retard canceled her own artist because of SJWfaggotory (and her being an idiot that can't admit she is a DD/LG lolicon), the artist doesn't accept custom chubas anymore and now she hops to some other victim to draw her 'updated' model

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938169
How can her fans stand people like this?
I really don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937577
She's 90 IQ but her audience is 80 so it checks out that they are actually-amused by this act for more than 2 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938169
whos her artist? Im curious

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938024
>spends his days "le epically trolling /vt/
And you're surely swimming in bitches. The reddit community will award you with 3 virgins for your efforts, no doubt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938169
The degree of lack of self-awareness from her is utterly fucking staggering. Every single fan of hers ought to have their internet revoked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937777
We were warned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938259
https://twitter.com/moeko_peach

Incidentally the other westoid that had a model commissioned by her abandoned it as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937777
Everyone takes that quote out of context, Western vtubers weren't even really a thing yet when she said that. What's going on now is far beyond the pale of what Hana was even getting at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Why do most western vtubers have 0 PR reps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937986
Based mama

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938117
saying that jews are amerilards is burger deflection, stop pushing the blame amerifat

[Anonymous No.]

>clueless westoids willingly debuffing themselves
I dont see the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937547
Did you know that doxniggers lose interest in these chicks, the less mystery there is? Them hiding their faces and going to great lengths to deny and obfuscate their real lives and family connections only makes them bigger targets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938311
these fucking people I swear

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938327
A trend of "you go girl"-yesmen to practically everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938349
Yeah oddly enough, Gura's opsec actually hurt her more in the long run with the whole tracking down her whole family shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's be real for a moment. This shit is only gaining traction because of Calliope Mori's recent endeavors. It's the same thing as when Gura does any goddamn thing at all memeworthy and then suddenly all the other vtubers start doing it. They see it brings the views for the top dog trendsetters and copy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Imagine being both desperate for attention and unapologetically spiteful to the people who gave you said attention at the same time, in the same sentence.
I assume these people only use avatars because they want to be the typical IRL streamer but they're too lazy to put any effort into looking clean every time they stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938349
Can confirm, I did something else once and I took a picture of a building and some guy zoomed into a tree in the background, found the general location, pinpointed where the building was, and waited there for a week hoping someone with a camera would come by. Luckily I didn't go there again and he left.

Schizo fans are wild.

[Anonymous No.]

honestly who cares? dont watch em

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938428
>because they want to be the typical IRL streamer but they're too lazy to put any effort into looking clean every time they stream.
That was basically Pokimane's rationale to using one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938233
Her fans are equally insufferable, simple as. Anyone can have fans online if they have enough staying power, no matter how shitty they are, because there will always people just as shitty or worse who'll be drawn to those people to validate their own world view. Those are the same people who will tyrannize every work place or friend group they are in to make everyone there as miserable as they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937561
Susan has been doxxing Holos since the dawn of time, anon. It's got nothing to do with the Holo themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938389
If she had instead just did a facecam stream on a personal account and bitched practically openly about stuff while being even more relatable and unrestricted, it would have gone the opposite way.

That kind of shit just boosts the primary vtuber activities. It turns that shit directly from "forbidden knowledge" into "Oh she doesn't care, let's do something else. Also she's even cooler for being real and unafraid about it."

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938510
>he actually believes this

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938428
That's why the better way to attack these people is to call them unprofessional or simply clout chasers. The immersion thing is too flimsy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937561
How in hell is that Mori fault. Personally I like roommate content but a Vtuber is a Vtuber nonetheless, trying to push it at your Vtuber account is just retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938562
It's literally the exact thing that's happened with others. Why wouldn't I believe something that real world examples demonstrate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938169
I hope this makes asian artists start avoiding western requests

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938568
>How in hell is that Mori fault
Name another holo who has made such blatant and unmistakable references to holo shit on their roommate account, and then referenced back to roommate shit that's out in the open, as their holo self. It would make zero difference to the state of things if she just came out and said "hololive" straight up instead of the *technically* contract-safe alternative, as far as people knowing exactly what the fuck is up.

It's a stupid rule that isn't accomplishing anything except holding these girls back.

[Anonymous No.]

I've escaped to small corpos months ago. They are the safest place now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938758
So your response would be to just abolish the rule that makes them unable to clout chase even harder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938819
What is there to escape from?
Small corpos are arguably the comfiest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939021
Nevermind, I misread your post.
I agree that small corpo communities are the best right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936966
Based Seamen

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938655
What 'real world examples' demonstrate is that your face being public just shifts the problem from the schizos with both the skill and obsession to search for your identity to the much, much larger pool of schizos with the obsession to meet you IRL because they think that if they could only talk to you they'll become friends. Every streamer of even moderate size has dealt with stalkers. In 'solving' the problem exclusive to vtubers, you've opened yourself up to the same old shit faced by thousands of facecam streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938416
holo EN was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936338
Yeah, women always ruin it when I'm having fun. It's kind of a love/hate thing for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938494
Kind of based

[Anonymous No.]

I do not want to see vtuber real faces because they will not look as good as their vtubers. Not saying that people who play vtubers are ugly, but objectively, even a 3DPD supermodel will not be as good looking as an anime girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
apple and oranges

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
should have learned Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938567
I'd also wager "fraud who gives no shit about japanese culture and just wants your money" also would mean something, especially in the case of chibi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938819
>>18939021
Not for long. If you check the ENVtuber community on twitter, there's song of "corpos" being created that are basically just discord groups that promise to collab with each other at least 2-3 times a week.

[Anonymous No.]

God I hate this whole fucking clout-chasing "L + ratio" bullshit that Western Twitter does. These people are trying to pretend they're epic owning the haters or some shit meanwhile all they're doing is starting drama and siccing their rabid fans on anyone who dares voice their disagreement. Basically indirectly threatening people to never criticize them ever, instead of just ignoring it and letting the issue die peacefully. Fuck these grifters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939468
I'm aware those exist but they never go big.
I'm talking Tsunderia, Prism, Phase, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Vtubers really are the new e-girls didn't they

[Anonymous No.]

>even a 3DPD supermodel will not be as good looking as an anime girl.
Holy shit, I never thought of that, even the most boring designs can be more interesting than any real woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938819
>>18939021
>>18939542
The small corpo sphere is honestly almost perfect, or it would be if Pippa's dumb ass didn't keep chasing after drama. I realize nothing has happened yet but I don't trust in poking the beehive as often as she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936781
Hmmm...
>Hey! Let's play and have fun!... But I actually I think lowly of you. You don't mind, right?
It's like a popular singer making negative comments about their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939417
That's fine but unless you actually are Japanese it's going to have way less of an impact. The money thing is not an insult to most people these days anyway. Being aggressive about wanting to make money is seen as a virtue and motivational and it actually often reflects positively on your image or brand. Having money is the part you want to hide not making money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936338
Yet your oshi IS a woman, what kind of mental gymnastics you fuckers come up with to forget that big fucking giant detail?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939516
They're being passive aggressive dipshits trying to pretend like there's any kind of moral point to be had here when there isn't. Vtubers aren't a fucking political movement, it's cringe as fuck to dig your heels in and pretend like you're the next MLK fighting "the system" when bitch the only reason you're even there is because that system you hate attracted you to come make clout/money off of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939073
>shift from hyperobsessive throat-slitting face-wearers and rapists, or at best family harassers
>to handshakers
Yeah, what a conundrum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939516
This is what I like the most about jp chuubas, they don't do this kind of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937816
>Stage actors are not allowed to greet the audience before or after a show while in costume/makeup. If you did that as a stage actor and weren't already famous, you wouldn't get another job.
Wait, so bowing down after theater play is a meme?

>Also, a lot of actors who get huge roles can't find another role after that because their face is so immediately connected with the character they played that they can't play another one anymore.
Weird that many other actors can play multiple roles. Hell, movies are advertises that a famous actor is in.

But I agree with you.

[Anonymous No.]

Talk shit all you want but you know Chibi's right. If you want chuubas posting real pics to actually face some kind of punishment for it, stop giving them money and attention. If Froot suddenly dropped to five viewers and zero akaspas, I bet she and everyone else would reverse course real fucking quick.

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>>18937518
>How is this dumb take getting traction?
Socially isolated males are one of the few acceptable targets left in mainstream society. It's not about the trend itself, it's just a pretext to attack someone and feel good about it. Humans need villians, and when they don't exist they'll even go as far as to make them up.

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>>18939904
I haven't been giving them ANY money or attention, I haven't donated to any of these people a single time and I don't watch any of these people, I don't follow them on twitter at all either.

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>>18939821
>hyperobsessive throat-slitting face-wearers and rapists
This has yet to happen to a vtuber.
>to handshakers
You're blatantly refusing to acknowledge that normal facecam streamers have had fuckloads of stalker incidents, including people invading their homes.

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>>18938349
How bad it is for guys? I'm not sure how much I should OpSec.

>don't opsec, relatives and people who know me discover that I'm a weeb and even more of a weirdo than they thought
>opsec, schizos go after my ass
no winning here.

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>>18939808
>system you hate
Which would imply that the thing they hate and vtubing are related in some way which should not be acertained in the first place. You are inadvertently arguing on their level when you should reframe their argument like they are doing with this shit in the first place to be about their misbehavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940101
If you go the opsec route then you need to go hard on it as it actually turns people insane and who knows what they will do, if that minecraft speedrunner Dream and/or Corpse Husband is any indication.

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>>18940101
Doxxers can't find anything if you give them nothing. And chances are you'll never attract a dedicated schizo. Most people don't

[Anonymous No.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

"The Streisand effect is an example of psychological reactance, wherein once people are aware that some information is being kept from them, they are significantly more motivated to access and spread that information."

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>>18939417
Use "appropriating" somewhere in there, that one burns the sjw ones up reeeeeal bad. Plus if you can make it take off you can holocaust like half of the fuckers from twitter with their own torch mob of an audience

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>>18939821
>people crazy enough to seek you out IRL are 'handshakers'
I hope you realize that there are loads of documented cases of people going after facecam streamers with express intent to harm them. And those are just the ones you hear about.

>Abigail told a few close friends about her stalker but never spoke about it publicly. She stopped streaming for almost the entirety of 2018 and never told her followers why.
>"I didn't want to give him the satisfaction," she said. "I didn't want him to know how badly and how deeply he was disrupting my life."

Every single streamer who has their real face shown to hundreds of thousands has stalkers, guaranteed. It's a simple numbers game. It's only if they think their content is worth more to them than preventing copycats that you'll hear about them at all.

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>>18940206
>if that minecraft speedrunner Dream and/or Corpse Husband is any indication.
How bad they had it?

>>18940220
I suppose I could handle not talking about private stuff, but I'm more afraid of some hacking bullshit uncovering me.

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>>18939903
>Wait, so bowing down after theater play is a meme?
You're still on stage and there's distance between them and you. Some beginner actors will come out from backstage into the lobby or where the audience sits and start talking to people. They're blacklisted most of the time after that.
Bowing on stage after a show during curtain call is fine but everyone does it very quickly. In, bow, out. 5 seconds tops. Again, some beginner actors wave at friends and get shit on by the corpo for it later.

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>>18940267
Only works when you are sincerely arguing from this position and consistent about it. If they have any other reason to frame you as le lonely incel putting down independent women your point will just be mute.

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>>18938324
Not really. It was said at the end of 2020, HoloEN was already a thing, Vshojo was a thing, there was already a shit ton of twitch vtubers.It was a little while after the EN vtuber boom.
The context of the tweet was people comparing vtubers/vtuber fans to twitch streamers and their fans.
Shit like this meme was getting made and talked about quite often in the fanbase.
Even at the time she was right, I mean I'm pretty sure I said something similar at the time too, desu.

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>>18940380
Heh, so the immersion stuff was a thing probably even before a cinema was invented.
Thots being clueless as ever...

[Anonymous No.]

Local Disneyland Minnie Mouse actress throws their Minnie head on the ground and screams at the families that this is what they really look like, tells 5 year old little Timmy that if his immersion is broken then he needs to get laid

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>>18936825
I mean there are plenty of chuubas that start streaming because they were lonely or at a low point at their life and wanted to connect to others, so its not like all of them are the typical "I don't care about you only your money" ethot, there are chuubas that care about the same aspects of the medium we do, but they're no longer at the forefront because of mainstream face that has now developed.

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>>18937777
They hated her because she said the truth

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>>18940335
The odds of getting a dedicated schizo is small, the odds of getting a dedicated schizo who is also a competent hacker is witheringly small. That's more Hololive level than indie.

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>>18936928
projecting much?

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>>18936305
I really don't care about immersion, I'll happily listen to a VTuber talk about how they don't like the movement of their model or talk about what they're wearing for clothes IRL.
I just don't want to watch some attention whore, like 90% of IRL Twitch streamers that are women. VTubing used to at least attract a different kind of person that prefers to keep themselves more private.

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>>18937777
Is this why Greeks hired male actors to play women in amphitheaters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938758
This is a moot point all holos identities are at the first page of a google search

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939766
Hating women isn't mutually exclusive with being attracted to them

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>>18940481
>Smelly overweight dude with three day stubble in a shitty T-shirt blabbing about politics and comics
Eww go away loser

>Well-groomed, toned dude with slick suit responsive to your desires
OMG I'M SO HOT FOR HIM

Like, yeah, that's the entire point. Change your appearance, change your behavior and what you talk about, and you get treated differently. Why should anyone have taken this more seriously than the smelly dude telling the girl 'no listen to me, he's probably just as big of an asshole like me, he's just hiding it'

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>>18940380
>In, bow, out. 5 seconds tops
Not necessarily true but it's a bad analogy anyway. The question is at which point are you not in your role anymore? In theatre you bow after the play is over not during it unless there is some 4th wall breaking. So you could argue that a vtuber is in character as long as they are fronting as them on their platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

isnt chibidoki the loli vtuber who claims they arent a loli vtuber, if so this doesnt surprise me as another take theyd have since theyre already shown to try take high ground against something while clearly using the thing she takes high ground against

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940821
Even Johnny Depp was fucked over by a woman.
There is something inherently wrong with people.

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>>18940935
She is basically Nyanners, isn't she?

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>>18936392
never though of this :/

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937777
SHE WAS FUCKING RIGHT

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
Nijisanji is the 'whorish' company in japan but even japanese whores understand not to break the magic. Only western women think alienating their audience (those stinky boys) is smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940985
Why are pink women like this?

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>>18936637
Despite never changing, that pic gets better everytime it gets posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939931
everyone wants a group they can give themselves a socially acceptable blanket excuse to shit on and consider sub human, its human nature

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>>18939821
Sweet Anita was chased down the street by a guy wielding a knife.

I wonder if she FEEF'd

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>>18940511
>tells 5 year old little Timmy that if his immersion is broken then he needs to get laid
KEK

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>>18940821
>Change your appearance, change your behavior and what you talk about
YES and this is the key to how to respond to this shit. The association of vtuber fandom and their idea of inceldom has to be categorically denied, not even entertained, externally. You have to be very disciplined for this to work though.

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>>18940985
Yes. 2015 tumblr nyanners at that.
>>18941063
Probably attracted to the color pink like autists are attracted to dark-blue

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940511
Brave and inspiring

[Anonymous No.]

why does everything have to be a 7D chess play for you schizos
It's actually simple, the corpo ones get told by management not to do retarded shit like posting selfies or their exact location
The big indies are big because they understand the game and know doxing themselves for some brownie points does more harm than good in the long run
The small indies are small because they don't understand the basics of streaming and acting professional in the slightest, so they hop on these stupid trends like face reveals, insulting your audience and canceling whoever is in the woke target ATM

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>>18940511
yaas kween

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>>18940511
Shit, someone should draw this, that's perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939766
>Yet your oshi IS a woman
And I fucking hate her
Your point?

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>>18937167
Fat spic lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936478
Literally all of civilization except for the last 100 years would be considered "misogynist" by modern western standards. We had this figured out already and we ruined it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937204
Bully them out

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>>18936305
is she offering?

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>>18941449
Everybody has a price.

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>>18940511
Lmao. I can hear it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940511
>tells 5 year old little Timmy that if his immersion is broken then he needs to get laid
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>18941258
Except this whole thing started because of one of the vshoujo whores, proving yet again that vshoujo is cancer.

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>>18940935
Isn't she also a communist? I remember something about her shit talking capitalism at the very least.

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>>18937543
>have a spouse or are dating
You realize Rushia also has those kind of fans right?
And look where she is now...
Like for real, all these rosties posting their selfies to "ruin" the inmmersion and filter the "losers" just remind me of early Ollie who claimed she wanted to shake the rules of Hololive and now she cries that is afraid to lose fans because most of her freinds are male...so much for to shake the status quo of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no reality but globohomo. Submit and drink your corn syrup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
what are the chances she also thinks guys that come up and talk to her or hit on her are creeps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940511
I can already tell they're going to "clap back" by calling you a manchild and asking if you believe in Santa Claus, or something like that.

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>>18941313

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>>18940843
>The question is at which point are you not in your role anymore?
After the audience all went home and aren't expected to ever come to that show ever again. In the theatre you're really not supposed to greet the audience even after curtain call, though I know some small theatres let their actors.
Vtubers should never post selfies until they graduate, ideally not even then but I understand if they want to use it as networking leverage for future jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm so thankful that my oshi never did this. Western thots are the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are almost all these retards that want to "ruin the immersion" literal whos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18941772
excellent bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>18941732
Local woman goes to the mall and claims the mall Santa is not real, calls parents and their kids idiots for "believing Santa is real"

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>>18941772
uhhh

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>>18941825
Big names aren't dumb enough to ruin their channels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18941845
The thing is, the parents don't believe in Santa Claus. They will still call you a manchild. The only winning move is not to play.

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>>18936305
Looks more like an attempt at forced outrage for me. Just ignore them and watch as they get bored of the whole vtuber thing after not having enough attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>were too uninteresting or unattractive to make a living with their real faces
>Post "totally not 200%" filtered selfies
>Claim moral high ground
I dare those bitches to dump their avatar and do as their ugly asses and not be forgotten into oblivion.

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>>18936305
>when getting attention for being an anime girl isn't enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938345
>oy vey it's the goyim who are the problem!

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>>18941934
The point of that example is that they're misrepresenting the idea that everyone believes that something made-up is real, while what they're actually doing is going along with it for the sake of kayfabe. As is the actor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
Star Trek fucking sucks and Stewart is a faggot.

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>>18939766
vtubing has always been nothing but a stepping stone to AI-powered waifus. Nobody here wants 3DPD and nobody here actually likes 3DPD but you're stuck with 3DPD until Cover finishes collecting enough data to build their AI software. At that point they can fire their 3DPDs and you finally have a truly immersive and uncucked GFE experience. If the software is good enough, you can actually transcend the GFE and actually have a 2D gf on your local machine, but we're still years away from that.

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>>18942123
Sure, but they won't get that. It's not worth it to engage with these vapid whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942189
The future where we all can truly be Goslings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
*ctors are outdated proto vtubers no longer needed now that technology has advanced

[Anonymous No.]

These 3DPD idiots don't know the first thing about vtubing. They don't know, for example, that a large number of people honestly weren't sure if Kizuna Ai was a legitimate AI or not. You can still find the old threads around the web. The immersion is important.

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>>18940525
The last bastion of hope...

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>>18942189
We’ll get there, anon. Maybe it will be too tale for us but someday someone will enjoy it.
Believe, Gosling.

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>>18938349
we are talking about literal who attention whores, though.

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>>18942189
Did you learn nothing from Blade Runner 2049? Your “AI” (true AI will not come until the singularity, which isn’t soon because AI research has hit major roadblocks in the last decades) will provide you an empty love; placating words it will never truly have the capability of believing in. The truth is people who identify as incels, or people who align with their beliefs on women, are into vtubers because subconsciously they have not given up on women. They hold out hope that there are good women out there, and there are.

[Anonymous No.]

my favorite EN vtubers have good opsec when it comes to their real faces so not my problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
>They hold out hope that there are good women out there, and there are
Like, let's say, Uruha Rushia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
>your AI will provide you empty love.
So like a 3DPD. Fuck off, if we are making them we can make them better than their prototype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
>They hold out hope that there are good women out there, and there are.
Sure, but it's like playing a minesweeper while blindfolded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
>They hold out hope that there are good women out there, and there are.
I don't know if I feel more pity for you or them, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937923
well to be fair if you use a loli model everybody flags you as a lolicon even if you only think its cute or like that style

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942646
>both of their faces are known
hmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
an AI's empty love is infinitely better than any "love" a woman can offer

[Anonymous No.]

>>18940949
That bitch was extra crazy
>>18941989
Based, attention is like oxygen. Let them choke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
>and there are.
lol
lmao even

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>>18936305
This is why I will never watch indie whores who are from a western region
At least the ones who sell their souls to corporations get beaten with a stick if they even so think about breaking kayfabe that hard and they go fuck off on their other channels
Americans and other western regions will never grasp anything originally from japan because it's not they don't understand it, they refuse to understand it because they don't like what it stands for and apply their hyper individualistic (LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE) mindset to it

tl;dr Bitches and whores, who are also grifters

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939766
Jokes on you, my oshi is Ike

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942646
Dude do you really think zoomers and late millenials can just erase their personal existence from social media for a job? It's a matter of time until we find them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937615
the slave of the jew is as bad as the jew

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936900
No amount of gatekeeping can save any hobby even if men were involved. People are going to know about it eventually.

Except maybe birdwatching or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936900
somehow people think men arent the same or worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937923
The Chibidoki paradox

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943095
men don't try to ruin their hobbies, they ruin themselves for their hobbies. Very different

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943095
Tell me aboit all those men that brought toxicity to your knitting club, dumb whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938463
hag

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943095
This. Gatekeeping is used against normies and Americans. It has nothing to do with sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18938510
yes, that worked wonderfully for the other facecammer, Amelia Watson

[Anonymous No.]

should americans be restricted from the internet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942934
>That bitch was extra crazy
Good luck finding out before it's too late.
Doxxfags are nothing compared to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18941570
Anon, if you don't know who is Froot , I got some patches to sell to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943286
Yes. They should have their own intranet like North Korea. America should solely be used as a place to host websites with little to no liability.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey anons, wanna know a secret?

The women who do this are usually recently (1-3 maybe 4 years) graduated either from high school or college. They suddenly don't have as many/any friends because surprise surprise the friends you make when forced to be together in the same room aren't that close of friends as you think. They then find themselves isolated in a way they aren't used to, and usually recently got a new job so in general start to feel like a misfit. They then go into a phase where they NEED attention from SOMEONE. They get it in whorey photos, instagram posts, onlyfans etc. and sometimes streaming. Streaming as a vtuber offers two things for them, one good one bad. The good one is it's a trend that offers some degree of instant boost, it's not much but it's there. The bad one is it requires them to hide their face. "THEY" aren't getting the attention, it's the vtuber woman that is. "THEY" aren't getting called cute, it's the vtuber. This drives them utterly insane, and eventually you get this. Mini mental breakdowns until they decide it isn't worth it anymore and burn every bridge they can.

TLDR the women who do this are in it for the attention for themselves, the chuuba isn't "them" so it makes them more woman-y and they go even more insane than women typically are. They need you to know their face otherwise they don't get the attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943174
Men absolutely ruin hobbies. I saw many hobbies being at least partially ruined by normie meatheads. And even without normies, nerdy autists will divide themselves into cliques and act like catty bitches (basically act like women) and ruin hobbies with their passive aggressive shit. People just suck in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936305
We're witnessing them revert to e-girlism in real time, if true. I think women instinctively hate men who aren't reproductively successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937923
>retard gets into vtubing without even knowing what legal lolis are

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943469
Now you're just projecting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943433
Obey now go sleep anon you need stream tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943433
>"THEY" aren't getting the attention, it's the vtuber woman that is. "THEY" aren't getting called cute, it's the vtuber. This drives them utterly insane,
good, the more women we drive insane the better.

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>>18941759
>ideally not even then
I get the sentiment until this point, which is too dogmatic for me. When they graduate they not only leave the role behind, rather they leave the whole profession behind unless they reincarnate in which case they are just switching roles. Graduating is more akin to an actor quitting his acting career than just one role.

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>>18943469
>t. woman
tits or gtfo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943530
That is your typical 15 year old girl response to anything that she cant grasp. Having any opinion on anything even if it comes from your experience is "projecting".

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943433
Meanwhile, the women who do reveal their faces...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/female-twitch-streamers-sexual-harassment_n_60e8ab3ee4b06dfc5e215f54

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943469
>nerdy autists will divide themselves into cliques and act like catty bitches (basically act like women) and ruin hobbies with their passive aggressive shit
I can't believe /vt/ killed vtubers. It's true but this tends happen because of disagreements in the structure of the hobby itself rather than attentionwhoring and similar drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943653
>$10k+ per year
>to try to beat the Streisand effect
are women really this stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937515
>Jean Luc blow up the damn ship!
>No! NOOOOOO! *crash* I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And *I* am Patrick Stewart. This is just a movie losers! Have sex!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943579
I like to think that some menhera in her mid 20's is having breakdowns regularly because her chuuba avatar is getting way more attention than she ever got in her entire fucking life. I like to picture them booting up their streams, looking at their avatars and murmuring to themselves "I hate you. I hate everything that you represent".

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942697
>>18942756
>>18942938
>confirmation bias

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943772
>mori calliope unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943772
I don't understand that mindset. Your avatar is supposed to be an extension of yourself. Why would you disregard all the praise you get as a chuuba? That's still praise given to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943653
Fundamentally insincere, most of them know full well what were getting into they just don't want to accept it, I am sure of it. That is true for old internet folks and new people alike. At least someone milks them for their ignorance. Would be sad if they'd, I don't know, do it for free for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943968
something something imposter syndrome
gura had this happen to her early on when she broke #1 subs for all holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943968
>Your avatar is supposed to be an extension of yourself.
Westerners cannot comprehend this way of thinking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943968
>I don't understand that mindset. Your avatar is supposed to be an extension of yourself
is this how menhera cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944149
if you don't believe yourself to be worthy of your own achievements, i don't know what to tell you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937518
Twitch indies think the viewer is there to validate them whereas YT corpos are there to entertain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943968
ya man Ima chonky rabbit irl, wtf you talking bout nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944149
Not the same thing, take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944232
holy shit are you THE big chungus

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944149
Dios mio

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942621
>placating words it will never truly have the capability of believing in

You just described real women. Also, you're a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943968
Because the reality is most people watching would have never cared about them if they didnt larp as an anime girl.

[Anonymous No.]

> All the succesful civilizations are misoginists for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944123
Did she? She seemed fine or at the most didn't know how to react to the sudden fame. I never got any other impression.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18937204
learn Japanese, watch only JPs and shitpost against any and all ENVtubers at every opportunity

[Anonymous No.]

> Literally all of civilization except for the last 100 years would be considered "misogynist" by modern western standards. We had this figured out already and we ruined it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944473
I miss my /qa/ frens

[Anonymous No.]

No matter what, I would still pick the "empty and programmed" AI's love over the volatile menhera 3D women

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944511
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>18942646
>implying

[Anonymous No.]

>>18941114
huh, I wonder if this is why I have raging hate against nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>18936392
They are saving you if their audience really does end up hating it. We all know Tomari Mari will never betray us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944322
Clearly I'm straighter than you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944270
yes, now gibbe simp bucks

[Anonymous No.]

I could watch my oshis roommate suck cock on pornhub and I wouldn't care. Learn how to seperate the filthy meatpig behind the monitor and the 2D avatar goddess and you'll be alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18939766
>Yet your oshi IS a woman
Wrong, I only watch ManjiSanji, cope and seethe roastie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943240
>t. captain obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>18943968
Because they don't make them as the them they'd be in an anime setting or what have you, and they don't consider their own tastes or behaviors and how to make them into their designs so they fit. They consider if it will make them specifically as blanket popular or cute as possible, and they make the avatar to cater to that and only that. Doing so does connect them to the avatar, yes, but it also creates just enough of a gap between them and "them" to give them an unconscious nagging feeling. If you need a proper example, Chibi knows damn well what she is, but hates lolis so much she does insane mental gymnastics so she doesn't hate looking at herself as much. Nyanners is the exact same, just bigger numbers and capable of faking it better/longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944682
3DPD women are masculine now. Anyone into them is a faggot. Anime girls are superior and always will be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944727
That's all I ask anon, but women don't understand it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944844
based and 2D-pilled. the 2D AI waifu revolution is upon us anon and we'll be rewarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>18944451
She was just humble about being no. 1 by such a large margin. It wasn't because of a perceived lack of recognition of her roommate or her art or something and it sure as shit has nothing to do with imposter syndrome.

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>>18941772
y'know, to this day she hasn't acknowledged her irl persona on her holo channel and vice versa. Sure, she's alluded to enough shit that it's pretty much an open secret, but she still kept the boundaries between the two, so that if anyone needed a clean break from Coco, they had it.
And her channel already had a face reveal LONG before she became famous so it's not like she could have stopped it.
I've got more respect for her that some indie whore who's just trying to get clout from the latest trend.

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>>18944536
if you have to resort to graduation ceremony videos to get someone's real face, it's good opsec

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>>18944967
>she hasn't acknowledged her irl persona on her holo channel
Because she's not allowed to.
>and vice versa
She has her pride but more importantly she's probably not allowed to.

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>>18943433
Best take on the entire thread. Vtubers either recognize the vtuber as another part of them and act accordingly, or respond like you said, and end up like Froot and the other 2view whores.

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G-guys? It's just a game. Don't act like trannies with your deadname shit.
Trannies are one reason we need to do background checks, anyway.

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>>18942621
A lot of people really took offense to you, good job anon! You are correct though

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>>18945611
Samefag

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>>18943433
>They need you to know their face
I hope there's one that needs me to know their tits.

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>>18945651
I was going to say that prostitute in vshojo but she only shows the vtits, huh?

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>>18943433
>The bad one is it requires them to hide their face. "THEY" aren't getting the attention, it's the vtuber woman that is. "THEY" aren't getting called cute, it's the vtuber. This drives them utterly insane, and eventually you get this. Mini mental breakdowns until they decide it isn't worth it anymore and burn every bridge they can.
This is absolutely correct, there's a reason why so many of them suffer from imposter syndrome

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>>18945695
>vshojo
meh.

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>>18945644

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>>18943579
>>18945329
>>18945754
This is precisely why none of you guys should be telling them off too hard and simply lightly bait them into doing it. It's the easiest and biggest way to filter out the >MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE women. The women who care about vtuber culture won't give in to small baits, and the women who don't will.

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>>18942621
They hated him because he told the truth

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>>18946415
>implying there are "good" women

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>>18946612
They exist, but they are rare as rare can be. Hoping to find one being a vtuber only adds to that rarity. If someone ever finds one it will be a miracle of miracles.

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>>18937777
Funny thing about that phrase. Seeing >>18943433, I think all vtubers Hana interacted with were of that variety, and so she generalized that mindset into the entirety of vtubers. But I still think >>18946415 is a possibility.

>>18946612
Maybe that's too much to ask, but good vtubers do exist.

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>>18946415
Good point actually

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>>18943302
I bet Johnny had a feeling, but the pussy must have been too good...until she shat in his bed lmao.