/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Not counting the cut that stream platform takes, do vtubers that work for a company get 100% of the donations? I'm asking because I've looked at a few "about sections" and none of them say that the company gets some of the money.

[Anonymous No.]

We know Cover takes a cut from Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>pay 5 of your currency for membership
>1.6 goes to google
>probably 1.6 goes to the company
>strimmer gets the last third
this is why I'll never fork out to corp tubers, thats too much going to not the talents pocket

find you an indie with streamlabs

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>>1892365
how much tho? If some old dudes in suits take like 50% of my donation, i dont want to give anymore.

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>>1892478
Yourube takes 30% cover takes 35%. Holos with more superchats might have negotiated better deals though

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw
>>1892365
>>1892478
We'll never know the exact figures, but the company definitely takes a cut. How exactly do you expect them to release 3d models, new outfits and pay staff/managers otherwise?

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>>1892478
Relatively high. Don't want to give anymore? Okay, get fired, lose all employment benefits, and make less money even after taking into account the company's cut.

[Anonymous No.]

Coco jokingly said 50/50 split of post-Youtube revenue before, but the reality is more likely that it's contract dependent. The agencies need to pay their behind-the-scene people too, you know?

[Anonymous No.]

I remember hearing or reading that cover pays them a base salary aside from what the vtuber earns. How much sense would this make considering that later take a cut of the donations?

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>>1892523
Coco once mentioned on stream that YT takes 30% and Cover takes 50% of a SC. It was unclear if the Cover cut is applied before or after YTs cut

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>>1892753
One of the niji girls went over it in decent detail. I don't remember exactly what she said but it was close to 50/50 post. It was also contract dependent and varied from liver to liver. For her at least she got a bigger cut of BOOTH purchases than SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1892673
>>1892753
I'm not upset that they're taking a cut.
I'm upset that they're taking that big of a cut without disclosing it to the donators.

[Anonymous No.]

The real question is what's the cut on merch, that's usually a bigger share for the entertainer

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>>1892794
>looks at Holostars and remembers that Hololive was not always this popular
A base salary gives your employees peace of mind. Also, probably not legal not to pay a salary.

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>>1892315
The only one I can think of that doesn't take a cut is VOMS. GYARI lets Pikamee and Tomoshika keep their channel revenues (after google takes their cut), but he holds copyright and keeps the merchandise revenue.

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>>1892876
Sorry, my brain melted and I misread that as the Holo refusing to give Cover's cut, if they even have access to the funds directly in the first place. Some of them have active roommate accounts/activity. Donate there.

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>>1892871
Found it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw

[Anonymous No.]

Doing the math on SCs kindof discourages you from sending them:

Say you send off an SC equivalent of $100. VAT/sales tax is included in your SC amount, so depending on where in the world you live your gubmint takes up to a fifth of the full amount. So you're down to $80 at worst.
Then Google takes their cut, supposedly a full third of the net amount. Now you're down to roughly $53.
Finally, in the case of the Holos, Cover takes half of that (a third of net, like Google). Granted, this cut is part of what funds their operations and the fixed salaries the Holos receive, so you could still argue that they're getting this money as well.
STILL, out of $100, only about $26 actually makes it to your oshi's hands. Which they're gonna have to pay income tax for as well.

Super, indeed.

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>>1893236
As much as i dislike doxxfagging i was actually considering digging up roomates just to circumvent giving Cover any amount of money because i'll be damned if those bunch of incompetent managers and half-assed 3d tech guys deserve to see any money

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>>1893236
When compared to a salesmens comission at some companies, that's still not bad. I think the salesmen at the company I work for get like a 20% cut of the profit they produce.

In both cases they are dealing with high volume items, so over time they will add up. Combine SC with merch sales and non-monetary benefits like setting your own schedule and the holo's seem to have a pretty nice gig.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover takes like 50% to be a garbage company

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>>1895633
Seething. Coverchads win again

[Anonymous No.]

I heard Holos can trade in "favors" with Yagoo for a higher cut. When Korone cries on stream, is normally because she just came back from said "negotiation" meeting.

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>>1895695
Mel is sucking yagoo's dick for a hamburger

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>>1893236
>>1895499
Meanwhile on an indie or even VShojo stream on Twitch you can direct-donate any amount that goes 100% to the chuuba.

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>>1896149
but with cover you have someone who manage and make your merch, and certains protections

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>>1896149
No one ever gets 100% unless you mail them cash or a check. If your donating via any third party service using credit card you still get charged at least 10% in fees.

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kek I'm sure most of you are outraged on behalf of these girls making fat stacks.
Anyone who's not a retard knows to buy boosted voicepacks / buy roomate fanbox if they want to support their oshi directly.

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>>1898226
Streamlabs does not take a cut, and the credit card fees (presumably the same on Youtube) is 3%. So a donation to a Twitch chuuba goes 97% straight to them compared to like 25% via superchat.

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>>1896149
So how much does this indie have to pay for regular avatar updates by well-known mangaka? or the accounts manager that helps her acquire major sponsorships? Or the 3D team when she does more complicated shows? Or the promoter who arranges the venues and requirements for concerts? Are they all simps? And if all these still require the indie to let go half her donations then whats the difference?

>>1895633
And recording companies take at least 85%. You may think Cover’s cut is bad but that’s because you haven’t seen how shitty the actual entertainment industry fucks with creators

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>>1904153
yeah cover is in the end of the day, good for the talents, even if they screw up sometimes

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>>1904153
>b-but the music industry (infamously the shittiest and most exploitative industry in existence) is even worse!
>this means Cover is great!
It's still pretty shit, people like Ironmouse do just fine paying for those extra services Cover provides (model updates etc.) as needed without shelling out a constant 50% cut and keeping almost all of their income directly.

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>>1904153
>And if all these still require the indie to let go half her donations then whats the difference?
An indie wouldn't let their 3D team get away with shit like this

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>>1892315
Here's how I understood it
>Japanese govt.
20%
>Youtube
30%
>Cover
17%
>Talents as a whole (averaged out among the streamers)
17%
>The individual streamer
17%
Then, everyone gets fucked by Japanese taxes (paid a year in advance).

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>>1892945
Yagoo could've done a vince mcmahon and made all talent "independent contractors".

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>>1904153
I don't know how the pay works with VShojo, but my guess is they take a flat fee, take a share of the merchandise and take a commision for things that VShojo has helped with like the collab with Kizuna. Not 100% sure on the flat fee, but whatever it is, its not nearly as much as cover. DESU im not sure VShojo really counts as indie.

One of Veis new models (her Live2d) is being drigged by the same person who did Coco's recent one, she payed less than her so its been delayed by like 3 months. IIRC she said the new model is costing her around $4500 after its rigged.

Outside of Japan, i think being contracted with Cover is a loss rather than a gain. Limited on what content you can publish and your options of what games, or what you can show for that matter are severely hampered.