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18822494 No.18822494 [Reply] [Original]

Tell me about small English vtuber companies. I am interested in Tsunderia, Phase Connect, Production Kawaii, Prism Project.
What are their histories, characteristics and focus?
What controversies have they had?
Which ones are black companies?

>> No.18822814

>>18822494
not gonna answer any of that
just wanted to say IORI IS PURE SEX SEX SEX

>> No.18822888

Richness of Pina's model never ceases to amaze me.

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I don't know any of that shit I just think Pippa is cute.

>> No.18823076

>>18822494
I understand basically everyone hates Cyberlive but how did Kawaii get shut out of this?

>> No.18823357

>>18823076
>everyone hates Cyberlive
why? I know they had that whole prostitution thing for a bit, but that can't be the reason

>> No.18823508

>>18822494
(You) forgot about WACTOR, the blackest company of them all

>> No.18823606

>>18822494
Damn all those people and not a single one worth watching.

T. Mio chad

>> No.18823618

>>18823357
As far as I know, that's the reason. Also their "style" is supposedly way different than the other small EN companies.

>> No.18824047

>>18823618
>Also their "style" is supposedly way different than the other small EN companies.
How so?

>> No.18824816

>>18822494
>Phase Connect
More like Farms Cucknet, kek

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>>18823076
Cyberlive has repaired its reputation over time. They have been seen collaborating with more of the other small corpos. On the other hand for Kawaii I think they may have opted out from the Minecraft server. They don't even have a Minecraft autist as well.

>> No.18825027

>>18824888
Dumb to opt out, it's free publicity that it's hard for these small outfits to generate on their own.

>> No.18825571

>>18825027
I don't know what their policy on men is as well. While Reina has done a big collab in Crab Game with men in it, they might have restrictions on male interactions. If not then plenty of the members just don't have the intention to mingle with them. So far I'd say only Reina and Neena would be down for it, but Neena gets bored of MC unless it is some challenge map.

>> No.18825637

>>18825027
Isn't kawaii going all out on gfe?
They probably didn't want to be on a server with males.
>>18824047
Look up Ayane Hylo, she recently graduated from the company but still streams as an indie with the same model because their contracts are retarded, they can leave with the model without penalties. Basically Cyberlive doesn't own their models.

>> No.18825815

>>18825637
Ah you meant that, was wondering if it was their style of streaming or something, not the contract.
>>18825027
Yeah, but Kawaii goes full on the GFE and parasocial pandering so entering a server where there are males (Tsunderia's to be especific) isn't in their main interests.

>> No.18825828
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>>18822494
>Tsunderia
Afaik, the first EN vtuber company, predating even HoloEN. Cursed with extremely horrible luck, they can't seem to go one month without something going wrong, but they're resilient and have stood through it all, thick and thin. They're also full of parasocial menheras who are down bad for their own chat. In general they're high energy, really passionate about content creation, Western as hell, and give off massive zoomer vibes. Their top talents are Miori and Yuuna. My favorites of theirs are Miori, Lisa, and Amiya.

>Prism
Japanese company and probably the blackest company on the list; nobody hates them as much as their own fans, and they come with all the standard corporate JP bullshit you see from Hololive. The staff and managers are total retards, but the girls are great and they're overall my personal favorite corpo. They're kinda having an identity crisis since they can't figure out if they wanna be an idol group or a streamer group, and their pool of girls is a huge mixed bag, since Luto and Nonon and Nia are massive degenerates, meanwhile Pina and Rita are no joke the actual sweetest, most legitimately seiso vtubers in the EN sphere. They've got zoomers, hags, idols, gamers, gremlins, cunny, everything. Top talents are Shiki and Luto, but Luto's been on a huge hiatus. My favorites are Yura, Sara, and Pina.

>Kawaii
Also a Japanese company and also probably black. They have a pretty strict no male collabs rule and they do the most GFE of all the small corpos, but not everybody does it. Honestly I can't say really have much of an identity beyond the GFE, and they're not exactly lite idol-larping like Prism. They're getting carried almost entirely by Nene. My favorites are Namiji and Isla but they're not big on GFE.

>Phase
I don't watch them enough to have a solid write-up, but they're a Canadian startup with a JP side. Full of menheras and Pippa, who's a walking containment breaching yab factory. Little reason to believe that they're a black company, but they seem to not really know what they're doing either; they kinda just exist and drift along in the wind. I believe their top talent is Tenma, who's also my personal favorite of theirs.

I don't watch Cyberlive

>> No.18825903

>>18825828
Should also mention, Tsunderia had two graduations, Kawaii had two (one of which announced it just a few hours ago), and Prism had one.

>> No.18825921

>>18825828
Thank your detailed answer.

>> No.18825985

>>18825637
Does that mean they don't pay for the models in the first place, the talents do?

>> No.18825991

>>18825921
>>18825828
*Thank you, for the detailed answer

>> No.18826064

>>18825828
Honestly they're all worth checking out. They all have some really passionate, hard-working people, and they all interact with one another so frequently that they almost appear like one big company anyways.

>> No.18826361

>>18823357
Hylo joked about Rosemi's PL's graduation, which put CL on the shitlist. The curtain has finally been lifted after she left the company.

>> No.18826447

>>18825828
I doubt Kawaii is a black company, black companies don't pay for art commissions or song covers.

>> No.18826507

>>18826447
The company itself pays for their skebs and covers? I actually didn't know that, but I was fairly certain Nene pays out of pocket for all those skebs she gets.

>> No.18826587

>>18825903
Probably worth mentioning that both of the Tsunderia graduations were about a year ago, and the first Kawaii one was about seven months

>> No.18826599

>>18825985
No the company gives them the models. After a few months of streaming you own the model and everything about it and you get to leave with it if you want.

>> No.18826604

>>18826507
Yeah, they get an allowance of 300 dollars a month for stuff like that.

>> No.18827022

>>18825637
>they can leave with the model without penalties
They do have to stream for a set minimum amount of time before they're allowed to however.

>> No.18827432

>>18826599
There is something they apparently don't own, which is the content produced under Cyberlive, and this would be the reason Hylo deleted all her past videos from Youtube. Mind you, this is hearsay from her own discord server, so I don't know how true this is.

>> No.18827599 [DELETED] 

>>18822494
>Kawaii
THE GFE EN company, it's pretty much their main draw and their top talent, Nene, leans heavily onto it, to the point male collabs of any kind are strictly forbidden. Said top talent is also pretty much carrying the entire company on her shoulders.
>Tsunderia
Among the oldest if not the oldest vtuber company in the west, they have absolutely horrible luck and their members are constantly going through one problem or another every other week to the point you wonder if they angered some ancient god or something, due to that and their roster being filled with parasocial menheras who are seriously attached to their audiences hiatuses were pretty common in them.
But in spite of that they have proven to be really resiliant and hard working and have some really good talents among them, with Miori being their top one and pretty much carrying the brand, but their awful marketing and luck has lead them to stagnate pretty heavily.
They are also the only EN corpo (from your list) with males.
>Prism
Known as a Hololive larping company, all with retarded as fuck management, restrictions out the ass and all the bullshit you could expect out of Hololive, their fans love their girls but HATE management to death, said girls are really sweet individuals and have some pretty stand out talents like Aoi and Shiki, who are pretty good singers, with the latter is also their top talent alongside Luto, though she has been on hiatus for a good while now...
Their identity is hard to define, in theory their an idol group, but some of their members, namely Luto and especially Non are massive degenerates while others like Rita and Pina are probably the sweetest, most seiso and kind vtubers you can possibly find in the EN sphere, and they seem unable to decide on wether to be mainly streamers or mainly idols, not helped by a recent tentative change in the rules that some fans think will kill a good chunk of the parasocialness some of the members had going on after some incidents with seriously retarded viewers.
>Phase Connect
A wild bag is the easiest way to describe them, they don't have an especific identity as their members are pretty much all over the place, however they seem to be mainly streamers and seem to go along with the current the most out of all the start ups, they have a japanese branch too, though it's not doing that well.
Tenma is their top member right now with Uruka being close behind if I'm not mistaken, the latter is a pretty good musician and the former is a japanese loli baba who speaks mainly english and is a very entertaining streamer to watch.

>> No.18827755

>>18827599
Man you basically just paraphrased every single point in this post >>18825828

>> No.18827828

>>18827755
And that's what happens when you don't refresh the page, fuck me sideways, ten minute gone to waste.

>> No.18827898

>>18823508
This is the company I actually want a QRD on because no hablo espanol

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>>18827828

>> No.18827987

>>18827898
It's multi lingual. It's just that Hina is the most well known one here.

>> No.18828505

>>18825828
>>18827599
Phase for some reason well yeah, they have Pippa has the fanbase with most schizos per capita of any company.

>> No.18828580

>>18822494
Variety of hit and miss, some of them you watch and it's like ".. yeaahh I see why she isn't a big shot" and others "wow, she's seriously entertaining, could go places some day." The way they act overall kind of is in between the careful nature of Holo and the unlimited (to their own detriment sometimes) xtreme edgy nature indies can reach.

>> No.18828703

>>18828505
I often refer to NijiEN as fujo containment with their newest wave; does Phase count as schizo containment with such in mind?

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Post favorites
>Purin
>Tenma
>Shiki
>Isla
>Menace

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>>18828892

>> No.18829055
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>>18822494
The word "black company" has been thrown so much around /vt/ that it has lost all meaning but wactor fits all definitions of the word

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>>18829055
What the hell is happening here

>> No.18829127
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>>18828892
Meruru, Amiya, Miori, Nene, Neena, Non Anon.

>> No.18829202

>>18829094
A combination of menhera + attempts of sabotage + sex

>> No.18829216
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>>18829094
That isn't even everyone. The most recent one is on "indefinite suspension". She got it around late November.

>> No.18829323

>>18825637
>Ayane Hylo, she recently graduated from the company but still streams as an indie with the same model because their contracts are retarded, they can leave with the model without penalties. Basically Cyberlive doesn't own their models.
Retards starting drama aside, this seems like a big blow to Cyberlive because I thought Hylo stood out from most of those girls with her cute kayfabe. Now she still has her persona so the other girls can't even pretend she stopped existing like they do with most vtuber graduations. Now I am curious if she is doing about the same as before or better.

>> No.18829346

>>18829094
A ceo of a company trying to convince people that 70% of his company has been "infiltrated" and "sabotaged"
Its a literal who company with 0 value

>> No.18829407

>>18829346
The company is shit but they do have some good girls there anon. That is why WACTOR fans are conflicted about the whole thing.

>> No.18829420

>>18829323
I think she parted last week so you need to wait to see if there is a change for her.

>> No.18829421

>>18829346
What qualifies as sabotage here, exactly?

>> No.18829467

>>18829421
According to the ceo: breach of contract (unknown), leaking of private company info (none were ever found), deleting of private company info including all info regarding the upcoming gen

>> No.18829470

>>18829216
#FreeLaila

>> No.18829562

>>18829323
Wonder how the other cyberlive girls will deal with her going forward, probably interacting normally. It's not like they can pretend they don't know she is still alive like the Kawaii girls and Pearin

>> No.18829566

>>18829323
she gained over 500 twitch subs and went from 30 ccv to 80-100 and has played with big face streamers like ZeRoyalViking and captainsparklez

>> No.18829768

>>18829346
>infiltrated
By who and for what interest? Does he have any credible documentation for this claim? Or is he just trying to cover his ass and deflect away from his shortcomings?

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>>18823606
Miori would be disappointed in you

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>>18829566
>didnt stream much in cyberlive
>graduates
>stream more often and in way more hours than before
>keep schmoozing with big ecelebs that she never talked to when she was in the company
>make constant tweets trying to clout chase with big creators
>content is all just collab games now

It's curious to see where she goes with this.

>> No.18829869

>>18822494
Kawaii is cute tho

>> No.18830092

>>18829323
>so the other girls can't even pretend she stopped existing
Why would they, she's even collabed with CL girls shortly after graduating.

>> No.18830110

SMALL COMPANY UNITY!

>> No.18830346

>>18830110
Based yabbit

>> No.18830366

>>18822494
They're enormous failures. They basically got rejected from both Hololive and Nijisanji which is an impressive feat. Don't bother.

>> No.18830432

>>18823076
They explicitly have a rule with 0 male collabs. Unlike Prism who also has the same rule but bends it for groups or as long as it's for clout chasing, they opted out of collab knowing that there would be male participants

>> No.18830528

>>18830432
it seems if it's a big enough group then it's okay, considering reina was in a big crab game collab recently with there being males. but otherwise yeah, they've said there's a no males rule so a small thing like this would not fly

>> No.18830551

Aren't all the tsunderia males gay anyway? There shouldn't be a problem

>> No.18831188

>>18830551
Only Tomo, Nen is a girls and Kazu I'm not sure desu.

>> No.18831301

>>18830366
Considering the absolute peak of premium EN entertainment that Council turned out to be, I hardly assume they're bothered to be somewhere else.

>> No.18831432

>>18822494
>Tsunderia
Has males.
>Production Kawaii
Will opt out of collabs if there is even a hint of male.
>Prism Project
Cuck Project.
>Phase Connect
lol.

>> No.18832035

What about Myholotv ? Are they still around?

>> No.18832111
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Why did she do it?

>> No.18832157

>>18832111
To dab on Rosemi

>> No.18832283

>>18832035
Yes, they're still hanging around. Athelia seems to be pretty friendly with some of the other company talents

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>>18832111
OP rigged it

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>>18830366
Nice hot take.

>> No.18832477

>>18832035
They are still around but don't seem to be going anywhere much, they do seem to at least be on good terms with the other startups and I know Virion hangs out with Tsunderia's Kazune sometimes and Nonon seems to have taken a liking to him and Kazune too.

>> No.18832818

>>18832035
>Reputation of the company itself is forever in the gutter after the 2nd gen incident
>Liliana collabs with HoloID a lot
>Third gen seems fine talent wise
>They somehow managed to get a big Thai chuuba on board

>> No.18832835
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>>18832035
They seem to be doing well. They currently hold spots #1 and #3 in most subbed out of the small agencies (#2 is a former myholotv talent) Athelia and Urufi are on par with other girls that debuted around the same time and Virion is doing better than the Tsunderia males.

>> No.18832847

>>18823076
Kawaii is joining the server. Tenma from phase leaked that they are joining.

>> No.18834128

>>18831301
It's pretty funny how there's pretty much non-stop whining about Council and the more recent Niji waves on this board and how they're boring or nepotism hires or never streaming or whatever, and yet the same people still act as if the talent scouting of these companies is anything particularly special.

>> No.18834289

>>18832818
I think they are more so fucked for the english market

>> No.18834863

>>18832835
It's misleading to say that she's the #1 most subbed startup VTuber when she got all those subs as an indie. I don't know what the fuck the company offered her to get her to sign on, but I hope she knows what she's doing

>> No.18835248

>>18834863
Hori07 had around 40k when she joined myholotv

>> No.18835707

>>18835248
>jumped 100k in less than a month
what even happened to cause that

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>>18835248
>>18835707
I wonder how much that spike cost Papaholo...

>> No.18835803

Prism - The good one
Tsunderia - also good nice talents
Phase connect - pretty good
Cyberlive - black company unprofessional
Kawaii - whores VShojo lite

>> No.18835858

>>18835803
>Cyberlive - black company unprofessional
I too like talking out of my ass.

>> No.18835909

>>18835858
Cyberlive is just Yunity rebranded

>> No.18835980

>>18835909
You're correct up to a point, it's built on the corpse of Yunity, but it's not literally it.

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>>18835803
>Prism - The good one
>Kawaii - whores VShojo lite
What did he mean by this?

>> No.18836439

>>18829323
Her graduating seemed to work out for everyone. She still seems friendly with at least a few of the CL talents & dropped into chat for a collab right after she left the company & seems to be inclining a good amount due to collabs with big name streamers. Her leaving also seems to have got the company off the small collab blacklist they seemed to be on with some of the other small corpos like Tsunderia after Hylo's "my dead sister" stunt

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>>18832459
I love this spider so much bros. She's so giggly and cute.

>> No.18836749

>>18836439
Cyberlive were seemingly already off the blacklist a while before Hylo left, she was even part of one of the bigger cross-company collabs herself

>> No.18837168

>>18836749
Not Tsunderia's blacklist.

>> No.18837193

>>18835803
>Prism is his favourite
>Calling any of the others black companies
Whether through incompetence or malice, Prism is probably the agency that fucks over its own talents the most out of the ones OP listed.

>> No.18837555

>>18836144
>>18837193
Kawaii is full of coomer baiting whores even Nene has had a “fanbox” her success forced everyone to do the cringy coomer baiting.
I called cyberlive a black company because it is simple as that we’re not gonna all of sudden forget every shady thing she did.

>> No.18837748

>>18837555
fanbox is just japanese patreon

>> No.18837894

>>18837748
>patreon
Anon which kind of content is mostly on patreon? Only fans was also just for people to sell online content.

>> No.18838039

>>18829216
>hag witch design
>killed by management
This world is truly diseased.

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>>18837894
Plenty of youtubers and streamer use Patreon. Early access to videos, access to Patreon only polls to guide where content will go, or just another avenue to support the person.

>> No.18838057

>>18834128
>the more recent Niji waves on this board and how they're boring or nepotism hires or never streaming or whatever
You are confusing the Nijiwaves for Council trash and brony baiting. All of Ethyria and Luxiem have some of the highest streaming hours for vtubers in the past few months. And nobody gives a shit about Enna being a nepotism hire when she's straight up the best EN Vsinger and an incredibly funny streamer to boot.

Not saying there aren't cool gems in smaller corpos, Amiya, Miori, Luto, Uraka are all great streamers from the ones I have watched, just that NijiEN scouting has been pretty top tier all things considered.

>> No.18838088

>>18837555
>Nene has had a “fanbox”
Nene's fanbox is pretty much just different tiers of membership but without a cut going to youtube.
>forced everyone to do the cringy coomer baiting.
Only Lua and Reina do that.

>> No.18838126

>>18837555
Unless I can hear her deepthroating a dildo in that fanbox whatever you just posted means nothing

>> No.18838149

>>18837894
>>18838056
Patreon is great, more of the corpos should be using that instead of Youtube memberships

>> No.18838258

>>18838149
That is probably a problem with being in a corpo, they are slow to adopt other forms of payment. Indies can just adopt what ever methods of payment their viewers suggest to them at their own discretion.

>> No.18838265

>>18828892
>Tsunderia
Miori and Amiya
>Phase Connnect
Uruka and her smoker voice
>Prism Project
Rita and Shiki
>Kawaii
I don't watch any but Nene's Nun outfit makes me want to sin

>> No.18838290

>>18837555
Say what you want about the coomer baiting but it works and is giving those that do it a great boost in numbers

>> No.18838320

>>18829055
Lia was the one that accidentally doxxed themselves on stream right? How is she still active?

>> No.18838321

>>18822494
Pippa kind of overshadows the other talents in Prism, but they are all good and the company is quite varied. For example Uruka plays musical instruments on stream. I'd say they're worth trying out.

>> No.18838348

>>18838321
>Pippa
>Prism
kek

>> No.18838396

>>18838321
>>18838348
I'm retard. I meant Phase.

>> No.18838473

>>18838321
Pretty sure Tenma and Lia are bigger than Pippa.
Pippa just seems bigger because she panders /here/

>> No.18838658

>>18838473
Pippa gets 2-3x more ccv than both of them

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I Love my zoomie cat and all her porn
simple as

>> No.18838824

>>18838473
Pippa is least subscribed PhaseEN but most visible for obvious reason. I can't measure Tenma since she is split over twtich and yt but doing better. So does Lia.

As far as we know the company as a whole is doing good and invests all earnings back. They have no graduations so far and 2nd Gen is on the way in few months.

>> No.18838862

>>18838756
Whats with Nia and nsfw art?

>> No.18838894

>>18838862
The cringe cartel keeps buying porn instead of just donating to her

>> No.18838916

>>18838862
Her fanbase is known for getting porn instead of donating to her
This is why she was the poorest agent prior to gen 4

>> No.18838951

>>18822494
I am going to be a numberfag since I find how much has changed interesting. Tsunderia is in a fucked position right now. They lost all of their early hype and are struggling hard. Except for Lisa, for two gens now none of them have hit over 5000 subscribers even. The only thing that is growing with them is Miori who isn't even a homegrown talent and her success doesn't seem to carry much to the others.

>> No.18839006

They're not as discussed as other small corpos for obvious reason but Cyberlive is doing well now and has some good girls you should check out.

>> No.18839023

>>18838862
Also forgot to add, she wants porn of her as well

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What's going on with Tsunderia's set up?
>Gen 0 has one member left. The other two is management and one of them soft-graduated.
>3 out of 4 of Gen 1 is on Twitch, making them disconnected from the one left on YT.
>Gen 2 is only two members. One of the members might as well be an indie.
>Gen 3 has a reverse babiniku who can't steam anything that takes more power than MS paint because management doesn't ensure talents have proper hardware.

>> No.18839114

>>18839053
Tsunderia fell apart after they lost their 2 biggest vtubers, and the reason why they left didnt help either

>> No.18839159

>>18839053
Tsunderia is just a lost cause for the most part. They might as well rebrand into a group at this rate.

>> No.18839197

>>18839114
Those happened a full year before anything that post mentioned.
And Kana leaving was for the best, for everyone involved. Ria too, she was never serious about it.

>> No.18839314

>>18828892
>Tsunderia
Kazune
>Prism
Pina and Luto
>Phase Connect
Tenma and Uruka
>CL and Kawaii
No one.

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>>18839114
>>18839159
Did you both go into comas in April last year and just wake up?

>> No.18839387
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18839387

I WANNA HOLD NASA'S HANDS!

>> No.18839490

>>18839053
I want to see some of the other small corps earn as well as Miori and Yuuna, even Lisa and Amiya (who despite has less subs than Lisa, has an huge viewer average at her size with the retro and loli babi buff). Even Prism’s paypigs aren’t around anymore and as long as the company has enough money to keep everyone afloat and happy, there’s no issue with whatever they’re running it like.

>> No.18839596

>>18839319
Just look at their numbers and compare them to anyone and you can see they are declining. They have a member with 2400 subs who has been out for almost 4 months. That is awful.

>> No.18839708

>>18839387
I respect the fish for trying to do something different with the EN/JP branches of Phase but I don't know it was a good idea. I guess we will see in April if he agrees or not.

>> No.18839727

>>18838951
>>18839053
Tsunderia is disorganized as fuck and legit if it weren't for Miori and Yuuna I don't know how they'd even be holding it together. I know this is gonna sound rude as fuck but some of them legit seem to be off in their own little worlds making absolutely no waves or any effort to make waves. I legit forget that Hanabi and Nen exist sometimes.

>> No.18839980
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18839980

UNITY!

>> No.18840160

>>18839596
Meanwhile their CCVs are pretty much on par with their counterparts in the other companies despite their lower sub counts

>> No.18840198

>>18839727
I'm not sure if they're disorganized, if management is very hands off, or management is overwhelmed.
It took Meru OVER A YEAR to start testing games before streaming them. As they'd often not work or crash.

Imagine how you'd be treated by management in any other job where you showed up to work unprepared and started an hour+ late every day.

>> No.18840232

>>18836462
That's a crab sir

>> No.18840415

>>18840160
They're very, very good at keeping the viewers they do attract. Shame the only one interested in attracting viewers is Miori.

>> No.18840615

>>18840198
I recommend watching Phase CEO interview with Urara. Maybe it will give you some answers.

>> No.18840623

>>18825903
Aruru quit?

>> No.18840810

>>18840623
check the official twitter for the announcement, but yes her personal life is too busy for streaming

>> No.18841176

>>18840415
Miori had a good reason to want to grow quickly because otherwise she'll be forced to stop vtubing entirely, and considering the amount of work she had to put in to both gain those subs and them keep them watching I can't really blame the others for not going through with the same thing.

>> No.18842265

>>18828892
Holo bro here who has been trying to get into the smaller companies. don't have too much experience and haven't seen much of all of them but from what I have seen
>Tsunderia
haven't really found one that i like too much, but
Yuuna and Miori seem like they have some quality, and I'm interested in Nen. was pretty put off from Orla's design but from the little i saw she seemed pretty competent. still haven't seen enough to give any deeper opinions.
>Phase Connect
Pippa, not surprising and i dont enjoy a lot of her streams as much as some others seem to but i do still find some of them pretty enjoyable and can see why others would enjoy her. None of the other EN members are bad at all but overall they're not really my thing. I could still watch and find enjoyment if i did though. Im sure their JP side is fine too but they dont seem to get as much love unfortunately.
>Prism
Aoi, i like her singing and how she just has fun streaming. haven't seen too much of a lot of the others but from what Ive seen i could see myself enjoying more of them.
>Kawaii
Isla, i like her music. went a while without watching her streams and when i tuned in found it funny how she was using such a more natural voice compared to debut. Nene def seems like she knows what shes doing. haven't seen basically anything from gen 2.
>Cyberlive
haven't seen much of anything of them, but I liked Pandora's collab with Aoi, and someone gifted me a sub to Yuri.

>> No.18842435

>>18827022
Hylo streamed for fuck all time, so probably not that long

>> No.18842829

>>18838321
>overshadows
Lia, Tenma, and Uruka are all more skilled than Pippa whether that be social skills, music skills, or general life skills. Pippa hyperfocuses on chat, sometimes at the expense of her collabs, and takes advantage of opportunities like courting the fruits after they doxed her and leveraging that to bump her 50-100 CCV to ~500. I think her highest during her Rage Stream was 700-800.
>>18839053
I think Tsunderia is going for a buyout. They want to sell their good talents like Lisa to Phase or Prism and have Miori and Yuuna join Holo or Niji.

>> No.18843136

>>18842829
>Holo
>Buy talents
lul buy out the contract maybe.

Miori would never last long in Holo. She's too much of a lewd alcoholic who does whatever she wants that management would have an aneurysm trying to wrangle her.

>> No.18843247

>>18838258
Patreon came first. Then, Youtube implemented memberships as a reaction to Patreon. Patreon also has hostile rules towards Japanese companies and is rife with chargeback fraud amonst other controversies.
>>18842829
I meant to say that Pippa's focus on chat is a positive.

>> No.18843356

>>18842829
>I think Tsunderia is going for a buyout. They want to sell their good talents like Lisa to Phase or Prism and have Miori and Yuuna join Holo or Niji.
Possibly the dumbest rrat I've heard yet

>> No.18843653

>>18842829
>Tsunderia auction happens
Who is going where?
myholotv buys Miori back

>> No.18843816
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>>18823076
>>18823357
Cyberlive just cannot catch a break, despite easily being the best company for any indie to join.

The rrats so far:
>Pre-made assets bought from a dead startup called Yunity with an underage manager in charge of both companies and dating the CEO
Yunity was in fact real and is the source for Yuri & Hylo's original designs, but the underage manager dating the CEO is false(as far as Cyberlive goes)
>Compensated Dating
Again, a real thing happened in that three talents did have Donation Rewards for debut, including hanging out on Discord 1-on-1, but they quickly reversed on the idea and afaik nobody ever got any of the higher rewards including the dates. Chalk this up to beginner's incompetence.
>Hylo tweeting about Tsunderia's Ria in bad taste
Real again, Hylo put out a really stupid tweet that pissed off Tsunderia and did not help the company's standing at all. She joked about her (art) sister, Ria, being dead.
>Early trailer ripping off Vshojo
Whoever they contracted to edit an early trailer literally just ripped off VSJ's trailer. Caused everyone to assume they were a shitty company early on.
>Divegrass, Kiki collab, being /here/
Lumi, and to a lesser extent Yuri & Hylo, being /here/tubers has arguably caused issues. Schizos got triggered by Lumi's divegrass commentary, and Kiki has been blacklisted by every company for being a complete menhera nutjob. The Phase x Cyber collab in Phasmo also had a ridiculous amount of containment breaches. Overall, these things made the girls seem very unprofessional when really they were all just getting carried away(no different from Pippa really)

Those of us in Cyberlive's community though have a very different view of the company. The talents are given some of the best freedoms in any small corpo and it shows in the quality of their streams & discord servers:
>75/25 cut with potential for the cut to increase further
>No restrictions on games due to being US-based
>Able to interact with their communities as much or as little as they want(Someone like Chapipi ignores Discord entirely, while Lumi & Yuri actively pop into VCs with their communities for games/movies completely casually)
>Completely own their own assets after contract obligations(For some reason someone like >>18825637 will tell you this is retarded even though this is objectively a good incentive for people to want to sign on at all)
>Willing to hire indies(Pandora was an indie prior to joining Gen 1) as is or with changes/updates
>Ridiculous amounts of support from the company with merch drops, songs, covers, 3D, PC & VR support, alt outfits, redesigns, etc.
> High-quality artists & riggers
>Able to stream on Twitch or Youtube at will without any company restrictions
>Content freedom, with some doing the meta GFE/coomer shit, while others just grind out gaming & zatsus on Twitch
>A community that isn't a fucking hugbox, mods that (mostly) aren't retarded, and people who are interested in actually hanging out & playing games online instead of trying to groom the talents

>> No.18843822

>>18842829
>The only company small corpo in the black
>Selling off
lol

>> No.18843912

>>18842829
True. Pippa has no distinctive skills of her own, but she is still experienced streamer. She goes for engagement andfree talk. Her focusing on the chat is good. Let's see how long she can keep doing that.

She can do a good collab if she feels like it. Unfortunately, most of the time she doesn't. Not that something could salvage that first cross-company MC collab.

>> No.18844034

>>18843653
Miori unironically probably has a nepotism pass into Hololive if she ever wants it

>> No.18844080

>>18838320
lol no

>> No.18844179

>>18823357
There's no blacklist anymore, Cyberlive are collabing with everyone regularly now.

>> No.18844211

>>18843816
>A community that isn't a fucking hugbox
Didn't Lumi ask for honest feedback from her community once and then get mad at them because they wouldn't stop kissing her ass?

>> No.18844273

>>18829562
Some of the Gen 2 girls still actively talk to her and Pandora from Gen1 both was in a collab with her and even got credited in her first indie stream for helping get her new expressions.

>> No.18844369 [DELETED] 

>>18843816
1st impressions mean a lot and when you fuck it up with that much shit early on, a lot of people we'll be turned off by it. That's what happened to me at least

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>>18843816
>Pippa DESTROYED Cyberlive
sounds about right

>> No.18844460

>>18843816
1st impressions mean a lot and when you fuck it up with that much shit early on, a lot of people will be turned off by it. That's what happened to me at least

>> No.18844630

>>18844460
Not that anon but while I agree, given how much they've improved I have a lot more faith in a company that can fix itself than one that stays in their ways no matter what. You have to give it to those at Cyber for improving as much as they do.

>> No.18844638

>>18844211
Yes, and then she actually got feedback. She's also taken feedback from the threads(when it was actually useful) and her mods actively bully & berate her on stream instead of being gigasimps.
>>18844369
Honestly, that's fair. I completely dismissed them just based on the trailer yab. I only got won over because I was shilled Lumi for playing Humankind and now Yuri is my kami-oshi.
>>18844391
man i wish i had more time to watch pippa

>> No.18844687

>>18842829
>the fruits after they doxed her
They were not the ones who doxxed her. PL shit is not the same as real name/address doxx.

>> No.18844772
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18844772

>Yunity was in fact real and is the source for Yuri & Hylo's original designs, but the underage manager dating the CEO is false(as far as Cyberlive goes)
Cyberlive is just Yunity rebranded with new members after they all left.

>> No.18844795

>>18843912
Her chat focus may indeed be her strongest skill.
>feels like it
Like the PS2, Pippa is incapable of collabing with more than 1 person at a time. Those reps. are just too heavy for her to bear at the moment. She'll need an entire pokemon evolution to get stats necessary to talk to more than 1 person at once without turtling down.

>> No.18844803

>>18843816
did anyone honestly outside of here actually give a single shit about the divegrass thing? Even on here it wasn't that big of a thing right? that really doesn't seem like it would be an issue. also the restrictions on games thing has doesn't have as much to do with being US based and more with them being so small that companies dont care. US based helps some but most of for example hololive's permission issues come from management being retarded and being really extra when it comes to what qualifies as permission. at least from what we can tell. also the talents owning their assets is a good faith move for sure but its fucking stupid business wise imo. a lot of the other things you listed should be good enough in terms of showing good faith

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>>18843816
>>18844772
See >>5337562 for them side by side.

>> No.18844946

>>18837555
nigga who is cyberlive
"she"
?

>> No.18845078
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18845078

>Lumi wanted to collab with Pippa and Pippa got Kiki to join
>PC sent Pippa to collab with CL and they all yabbed
>Fish and Slug do a manager collab where they shit all over CL
Fish is ... strong

>> No.18845081

>>18842829
Buyout? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

>> No.18845092

>>18844772
I won't spoonfeed you but it has been proven false already. At the very least logically you can't tell me they got this many girls to stay in something like the rrats said especially when they can walk with everything

>> No.18845178

>>18845078
slugma balls
sakana cock

>> No.18845185

Cyberlive fans like to play victim a lot. They fail to remember that a) the payed date thing was a huge red flag and b) their number's sucked for a long time.
Are people in stellux, 4vlive or amberglow claiming they are "blacklisted" because other agencies don't collab with them?

>> No.18845219

timeloop. all companies good listed here are decent to great they just have different terms stop rrating. only black company is 4v

>> No.18845294

>>18845185
stellux already got a phase collab, they have yet to express interests in going beyond that

>> No.18845320

>>18845185
Can you spoonfeed me on stellux 4v and amberglow I have never heard of them

>> No.18845490

>>18843247
Well Patreon is an example. The initial person was talking about fanbox which is Japanese and you can possibly perform the same functions as Patreon. Just using Patreon as a western example.

>> No.18845517
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Tsunderia and Cyberlive were given bad advise ON PURPOSE and sabotaged ON PURPOSE to cripple their beginnings. If you think huge companies like Holo and Niji would let upstarts muscle in on their turf and do nothing then you're naive.
Pippa is basically a chuba jihadis. She does collabs and yabs spreading the doctrine of Phase Connect far and wide. Inshallah.

>> No.18845562

>>18845185
>They fail to remember that a) the payed date thing was a huge red flag and b) their number's sucked for a long time.
Literally acknowledged in my write-up. Cope. I'm not even sure why you think numbers indicate quality at all; every startup is 2view at first. How many of you fucks have even heard of Tomopulse?

>> No.18845660

>>18845490
What other type of payment methods would you suggest that doesn't involve additional work and doesn't already have an yt equivalent? Using patreon would mean they have to produce content for it.

>> No.18845745

Can anyone give audition advice for any of these agencies? Do they differ in what they want? /asp/ seems unreliable for what they look for

>> No.18845809

>>18845745
There's no real way to know what any of these companies look for in any given gen. Best bet is to watch some of the girls and decide who's worth trying for and what their general content is like that way.

>> No.18845902

>>18845092
>At the very least logically you can't tell me they got this many girls to stay in something like the rrats said especially when they can walk with everything?
You answered yourself.
>Completely own their own assets after contract obligations
Hylo filled her contract obligations and left.

>> No.18845914
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18845914

Vtuber agency Digital Lunacy has shut down
everyone who applied can now cry
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/thread/18557393/#q18607024

>> No.18845979

>>18845745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZlNvm7I3m0
Char and Urara from Tsunderia where they answered a lot of questions pertaining to that.
Also, READ THE CONTRACT if you do get an offer.

>> No.18846055
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>>18845745
wactor looks for breeding girls

>> No.18846117

>>18845914
I'm sure the 2 people that auditioned are devastated

>> No.18846148

>>18828703
pc fanbase schizo on full display -> >>18845914
Who among you can claim a schizo from your ranks who created an entire company to groom a single oshi?

>> No.18846228

>>18843816
based and realitypilled

>> No.18846601

>>18829055
>(terminated)x4
What happened?

>> No.18846802

>>18845320
Don't know the others but Stellux is a decent startup that can't fucking market at all, because everyone I've talked to about it has never heard of them. All 4 girls are great and don't bother with any GFE shit, just having fun streaming and chatting.
>Joy
My personal favorite of the group and the most social one by far. Actively chatting with fans on the Stellux discord. Also probably hiding her power level. Sings in lower tones surprisingly well. So far has played titles like BotW, Arceus, and Cooking Simulator.
>Sylvia
Unfortunately I've seen her streams the least but seems to be the sweet and squishy one. So far has played titles like Goose Game, FNAF, West of Loathing, and Let's Build a Zoo
>Perry
Cute gremlin with a bit of a lethal streak. Can speak like five languages, also pretty good at drawing. Opened with a genocide run in Undertale. Trying out non-GFE RP ASMR. Also plays Mon Hun World with Hammer.
>Vesper
Dommy Femme Fatale vibes. Great sarcastic/dark humor. Also active on Discord. Silken voice, experimenting with RP ASMR. Big D&D nerd, has played/DMed Tabletop and currently playing DA:O, also Omori and FNAF.

>> No.18847113

mmm

>> No.18847392

>>18845320
I don't watch any of them so I best I can do is give you links.
>Stellux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ3bAw2Dr-0
I think Perry is cute.
>Amberglow
https://amberglow.live
This one is odd. 8 talents, 1 left while calling it a black company and an other is graduating in March. They have 2 males that are literal 2views, but despite all that they are having auditions for a 2nd gen.
>4vlive
I think the 1st gen debuted the same weekend as cyberlive gen 1 and they just had a 2nd gen last month. The same former amberglow talent also called them a black company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dVnJF4XZaU
Their also is Haven-x, heavenrend and I'm sure a few more agencies I haven't heard about.

>> No.18847697

>>18844211
>>18844638
Based, maybe I should give Lumi a try.

>> No.18847731

>>18845745
talent. kawaii specifically had girls do both a 5 minute intro and a 10-30 minute video pretending to be streaming with a provided model illustration. so they want to see what you're like actually in action.

a lot of the other companies stick to the 5 minute intro and let you provide supplemental talent showcase videos. some of them care more about current numbers than others. again, kawaii has girls that never streamed before joining or were literal whos. so they're a good place to look at if you lack numbers to make it through filtering other places

>> No.18847987

>>18847731
To be honest Kawaii seems like the hardest one to get into. Almost all of them were scouted to join.

>> No.18848021

>>18847731
>kawaii has girls that never streamed before joining or were literal whos.
Honest question... What small corpo didn't? Sakana from Phase even joked he hired a girl who didn't know what internet was.

>> No.18848119

>>18842829
>Miori to holo
>Bae nepp hire MJ for En 3
>MyHoloTv eternally seethes
kek i wanna see this happen

>> No.18849853

>>18845745
Figure out your skill and talent and focus on it. Have a 5 min video edited down to showcase your best qualities.

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>>18839727
In Hanabi's defense, isn't she still in high school? She's fairing better than Sumi at any rate, so I'd call that a win although she's seriously kneecapping herself by streaming at SEA hours and being completely unable to network

>> No.18853554

>>18840415
Lisa is trying, and Meru's VR dancing has a ton of potential if she can upload shorts regularly. Not sure about the rest though

>> No.18853657

>>18842265
Orla is secretly an amazing zatsudan streamer. She can talk about anything and it would be enthralling. I wish she'd collab more because the ones she did with Charzu and Urara were amazing

>> No.18853771

>>18853554
If I was Meru I'd push to get a unique 3D model for VR chat. Otherwise she's going to be seen as a discount Choobie.

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>>18853771
She really needs a model that looks like her L2D. Her design is fucking gorgeous and seeing it dance in full 3D would hit the algorithm hard

>> No.18854980

>>18847987
My 2view friend applied for everyone except Tsun and only got an interview with Kawaii. If anything I'd think they're one of the more desperate since contracts on their end may be worse.

>> No.18855275

>>18854980
Maybe your friend just isnt good enough or doing enough to stand out, the competition is tough nowadays and more and more impressive people come out of small corpos nowadays.

>> No.18855346

>>18855275
Well my point was that Kawaii was the only one willing to give a literal who with less than a year of experience an interview. I imagine the talent pool for the others was greater.

>> No.18855396

>>18854980
Were Tsun auditions not open at the time?
Come to think of it, have they had the smallest amount of time with open auditions, despite being around the longest?

>> No.18855438

>>18855396
I honestly don't know. Only started recommending her auditions after Tsun had closed out.

>> No.18855594

>>18855346
I just said that kawaii might be the hardest because they invite people to audition which would lower the open slots. Your friend might just have a voice they found cute.

>> No.18855643

>>18855346
From my understanding from people who applied to the small corpos

>Tsunderia
Has a theme of what they want and they look for people who specialize in one thing or diamond in the roughs

>Kawaii
Tend to aim for cute girls with some skills but as long as they can show that they're attractive enough qualities they're in

>Prism
Strictest of all the auditions, seeks out the highest quality but due to their awful contract the people who get in rejects it and thus they're forced to look for lower quality talents on the lower end of their auditions

>Phase connect
They took anyone they could get for gen 1 but I hear gen 2 has a stricter requirement in getting multi talented vtubers who arent as crazy as gen 1

>Cyberlive
Their manager Misaki has an eye for talent and if you can impress her enough she'll take you in. That includes having a unique voice or having some sort of special quality to you that she finds attractive.

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Look at this bear and tell me she isn't the single greatest thing you've seen in your entire life.

>> No.18855791 [DELETED] 

has anyone drawn hentai of pippa being gangbanged by the IBS/E-Celeb tards that she loves so much yet?

>> No.18855880

>>18854980
probably less desperation and more being open to training girls up or letting them grow as long as they fit well in the company. they also likely get less applications from non-scouted auditionees because their presence in the indie sphere is very small

>> No.18855948

>>18855643
>diamond in the rough
I think every generation of Tsunderia has at least one person that had absolutely no streaming experience before being accepted. It seems to me they look more for generational cohesion than individuals with the most talent. Probably a response to Kana and Ria's attitudes towards the rest of the company

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>>18822494
Meanwhile at Phase Connect...

>> No.18856292

>>18856026
Yeah... Right after I tried to argue they are at least a bit normal.

>> No.18856344

>>18855880
I wonder how audition numbers will change between gen 2 and gen 3. Gen 2 auditions happened right after Hana's graduation announcement, which might have deterred people. Kawaii is in a very different place than where it was 6 months ago.

>> No.18856513

>>18856026
Knowing some of the gen 2 members I cant tell if Sakana is trying to have a charity for women like this or is it just pure bad luck. God rest his soul.

>> No.18856585

>>18856513
Sad girl company will never die

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>>18856292
Best to filter out the weak early.
Also everything in that collage was posted within the past 2 days.

>> No.18856687

>>18856513
Are you saying there are girls even more menhara then those four? OMG we're going to have so much fun!!!

>> No.18856714

>>18856605
>>18856585
Yeah. At this point only thing that can kill this company is Sakana running away.

>> No.18856901

>>18856513
Phase Connect seems less like a real company and more like an anime version of a company portrayed in a slice of life. The type of anime you watch and say to yourself: "This can't be real. No workplace environment is like that."

>> No.18857055

can i get a QRD on Phase Connect and why they're considered so crazy plus the Pippa collab stuff?

>> No.18857086

>>18822494
Pippa likes Assmongoloid.

>> No.18857353

>>18822494
Why do these small companies usually have an outliner in the sub count?
>Miori has 134k subs, second highest on Tsunderia is around 30k
>Nene has 108k, second highest on Kawaii is around 30k
>Emma has almost 50k subs, the rest of Cyberlive barely breaks 10k

>> No.18857459

>>18857353
Same reason why Gura has a 2 million lead over any other holo.

>> No.18857477

>>18857353
All three of them you listed have pushed coomerbait shorts until they got picked up by the algorithm.

>> No.18857562

>>18857459
Oh yeah I forgot that was also a thing.

>> No.18857600

>>18857055
Basically this >>18856901.
It's not like the EN girls had any crushing yabs, but it's constant stream of surprises. It's special kind of funny.

Also, Pippa is walking nuclear weapon.

>> No.18857875

>>18843136
>Miori would never last long in Holo. She's too much of a lewd alcoholic who does whatever she wants
This is what a lot of people forget when they beg Holo to pick certain people up. Some of the best parts of them might have to be filtered for the Holo EN image.
>>18853554
Problem with Meru is that she moved to Twitch. I wonder if there will be a move back to YouTube if they implement raids since companies can raid themselves. As of now the Twitch life is just better for her mentally.
>>18853771
She'd need to finance that herself. She's busy getting trackers for better movement relaying.
>>18855948
>I think every generation of Tsunderia has at least one person that had absolutely no streaming experience before being accepted
Who would those be in Dream? Kazune would be an easy shoe in for someone that has streamed before. I heard Amiya just emerged out of nowhere and she is a FANTASTIC addition.
>>18857459
Hell, even Vox over Niji EN.
>>18855643
PRISM seems to be fairly strict. I haven't heard of anyone needing to limit how long they should stream until Non Anon was saying that she had cut down her streaming time to around two hours per stream. I get it, it games the algorithm better, but it kind of sucks that even the length of streams are even micro managed.

>> No.18857983

>>18857875
Lisa is the only member in TsunDream with prior streaming experience.

>> No.18858130

>>18857875
>haven't heard of anyone needing to limit how long they should stream
Kawaii had a 3 hour limit for maybe 2 months but I think that was to have them avoid burn out.

>> No.18858184

>>18823076
>>18824888
For Kawaii, Reina and Neena are also the only ones extrovert enough to enjoy and join the big collabs.

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>>18823016
Based

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>>18857055
CEO Sakana-san made his fortune in other media businesses and started PC on a whim. He sometimes spends entire days playing minecraft or that furry battle royal game instead of working, this is by his and the girls' own admissions. The audition ads were sus and pushed away all the normalfaggot girls so only weirdos even bothered to apply. Sakana's traditional media background means he is separated from the norms of vtuber and idol culture that others come from. This also means he uses a lot of traditional media tricks to get publicity. Think about Donald Trump calling The National Enquirer to tell them that his name was John Baron and he heard a rumor that Donald Trump was having an affair. Sakana-san comes from an industry where huge scandals can destroy you but slight or even moderate scandals can elevate you. Think Kim Kardashian's sex tape propelling her to superstardom. Now Sakana-san would never do anything as drastic as that but he knows first or second hand people who would and he knows more subtle ways of doing similar things.
Pippa is a /here/ chuba who got doxed by Kiwifarms and used that momentum to groom the fruits to become her fans, Kardashian-style. She toyed with some outliers on the scene before her efforts culminated in a stream where she made fun of Ethan Ralph, a man who made his career by making fun of others. This caused Metokur to donate $40USD worth of Superchats to her which is basically their way of a "blood handshake" or "sharing sake." Now the Rackets interview will test how well Pippa can take insults and dish them out without going overboard.

>> No.18858462

>>18842829
Miori's family situation might stop her from joining Hololive desu. She's very talented and can land a spot there but her family situation might hurt her chance. Idk if Hololive is willing to hire another EN talent who potentially might not be able to stream much or stream at all in foreseeable future.

>> No.18858468

>>18858381
>>18842829
The fruit's "doxing" of Pippa is the equivalent of her laughing and her bird screeching on debut. Everyone instantly knew who it was.

>> No.18858530

>>18857875
>Kazune would be an easy shoe in for someone that has streamed before.
Actually from what he told on his recent Maro reading stream he got his first PC after he was accepted on Tsunderia.

>> No.18858595

>>18858530
>he got his first PC after he was accepted on Tsunderia
Holy shit.

>> No.18858704

>>18858595
By that he means a Windows PC. He's always been a macfag before this.

>> No.18858750

>>18858704
Oh yeah, forgot about that, apparently he also fucked one of his keys from playing too much Osu! kek.

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>>18858468
My rraaaatttttt!!

>> No.18859384

>>18825828
I don't know, Tsunderia feels more like the more Gen Y/X company, especially when you have vtubers like Amiya who're only into Gen X stuff while Prism seems to be full of zoomers.

>> No.18859977

>>18859384
Tsunderia is all over the place. Provided that place is in Asia

>> No.18860090

>>18859384
>Gen X
Amiya is pure Gen Y. MSDOS and SEGA games. How much more 90's do you want her to be?

>> No.18860177

>>18823508
why are they black? QRD?

>> No.18860357

>>18825828
Cyberlive is cool too, you should give them a gander. Yura, Rita and Sara are my faves in Prism.

>> No.18860648

>>18860090
I was born in 92 anon and nobody around my age grew up on DOS/Genesis/NES stuff outside of our older siblings/cousins owning the systems. Most of these stuff were mid/late-Gen X hobbies.

>> No.18860697

>>18860648
Also forgot to mention i'm not trying to shit on Amiya, she's actually one of my favorite vtubers right now.

>> No.18863622

>>18860648
You know people born in the late 80's is known as Gen Y...

>> No.18863781

>>18839387
Same, Nasa is the cutest
>>18828892
>Tsunderia
Hanabi and Miori, used to be Yuuna but I don't catch her on much since she uses mostly twitch now
>Prism
Meno and Shiki
>Phase
Nasa and Lia
>Kawaii
Isla and Nene
>Cyberlive
Menace

>> No.18864210

>>18858381
Ok but explain to me where Nasa came from nothing about her makes sense

>> No.18864239

>>18843816
>>Ridiculous amounts of support from the company

he doesn't know...

>> No.18864638 [DELETED] 

> cyberlive
Twitch and youtube mix. There are some /here/ girls and the girls are generally from the western streaming scenes. There's inherently a lot of zoomer twitch culture due to that.
> phase connect
Really wild company from the vtuber, to the CEO, and the mods. There's an interest culture clash and mixture peak jp esl girls, sheltered girl, and /here/ trashy girls.
> tsunderia
I haven't watched much other than shiki. I also subbed to Lisa recently to check her out
> Prism
Hololive-lite. They aren't as strict as hololive but don't have the powerhouse support so it's both a good and bad things. I mainly watch mio and Sara.
> Kawaii production
There's relatively a lot fo GFE. However, the girls generally seem older and attract an older audiences. There's a good mix of girls' characteristic and background. There are girls who are closer to jp vtubing scenes such as Nene, girls who are close to the western streaming scene such as neena, and normie like shee (which ironically a rarity in vtubing).

>> No.18864746

> cyberlive
Twitch and youtube mix. There are some /here/ girls and the girls are generally from the western streaming scenes. There's inherently a lot of zoomer twitch culture due to that.
> phase connect
Really wild company from the vtuber, to the CEO, and the mods. There's an interest culture clash and mixture peak jp esl girls, sheltered girl, and /here/ trashy girls.
> tsunderia
I haven't watched much other than mio. I also subbed to Lisa recently to check her out
> Prism
Hololive-lite. They aren't as strict as hololive but don't have the powerhouse support so it's both a good and bad things. I mainly watch shiki and Sara.
> Kawaii production
There's relatively a lot fo GFE. However, the girls generally seem older and attract an older audiences. There's a good mix of girls' characteristic and background. There are girls who are closer to jp vtubing scenes such as Nene, girls who are close to the western streaming scene such as neena, and normie like shee (which ironically a rarity in vtubing).

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>>18864638
>>tsunderia
>I haven't watched much other than shiki
>>Prism
>I mainly watch mio

>> No.18864861

>>18864753
It's 3 am pls understand

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>>18864638
Anon, Shiki is not Tsunderia...
Although if you like her, Miori has a similar style and they've collabed together too

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https://youtu.be/Ydxt6L8j6_0

>> No.18866256

>>18844034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUE5ePkvo0

>> No.18867130

>>18866256
https://youtu.be/6n3XGfdu0DQ

>> No.18869819

There's this really scuffed 3D vtuber agency called AKA Virtual that's been slowly showing up in the asian market? Anyone hear about them?

One of their talents is streaming right now and they dont seem too bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y5YIejO-Wg

>> No.18870282

>>18869819
Nice shillpost Staff-san.

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