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>> No.18786155
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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

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* YESTERDAY TALLY *

>68,566: Flare (Hololive)
>40,092: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>34,575: Marine (Hololive)
>26,184: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,496: Nene (Hololive)
>17,732: Gura (Hololive)
>16,711: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,579: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,522: Shion (Hololive)
>15,511: Amamya (Nijisanji)
>14,776: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,678: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,381: Mio (Hololive)
>13,584: Hal (merise)
>12,338: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,709: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,152: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,025: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,012: Enna (Nijisanji)
>10,699: Baelz (Hololive)
>10,301: Haachama (Hololive)
>10,246: Watame (Hololive)

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>>18786316
It's crazy how consistent mito is. The only time she ever slipped below 10k is last month due to CCvid.

>> No.18786864

>>18786253
>>18786448
Even then, you're right. People generally see the idol side of holo and think males will have to be like that too. I don't have much hope in a Holostars EN even existing because of that, and NijiEN already grabbed the fujo market.

>> No.18786894

/#/ is declining.

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>>18786894
hey man

>> No.18787040

That reminds me, Ethyria never got their custom voice pack merch. Guess it’s never gonna happen then.

>> No.18787069

so guys, what do you expect after the Holo Expo?

here's hoping for EN3D. also, when is ID3 coming out anyway, its been a while since the announcement right?

>> No.18787165

>>18787069
If they're able to hustle Myth to Japan, 3D ASAP alongside/after ID1.
There's also
ID3
Stars New wave
That will be coming out soon too yea.

>> No.18787173

>>18787069
EN 3D is already confirmed no?

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It's that time for NijiJP's growth analysis. Who's inclining above usual and because of what.

In the top 10 we have Kuzuha (1st) with consecutive 10k for the second week, going off his recent CR Valorant streak, Loser King collab, and return to Apex. With a concert coming next weekend, it might be a bit hard to keep his stream frequency up, but he certainly has been trying.

Mito (3rd) doesn't seem to gain that much from the JK Gumi new costume reveal, but her stream VOD views has been better than usual; Deron (20th) benefits the most amongst JK Gumi. Hoshikawa (4th) slowed down a bit, but still going strong with Apex and a karaoke stream. Sasaki (5th) has been making good effort with consistent CCV in her game streams, but Hima (6th) is still a joke.

Ange (8th) inclined quite a bit from her collab with Kanae and Meika. Shiina (13th) has been enjoying growth from Yugioh collabs, Kamioka collab, and and a pretty good duet cover with Hakase (43rd).

Kenmochi (14th) is in turbo mode thanks to his tweets going viral, tbe constaant ROF-MAO buff, and a long NGO stream. Fuwa (17th) hit 500k and is inclining thanks to his 50-person reverse-call-in stream. Kaida (34th) is also benefiting from ROF-MAO.

Amamiya (32th) gained most of her subs from the new costume reveal just yesterday; combined with her first legit solo cover, her growth next week will be interesting to see.

Naraka (50th) strongly inclines from a cover, converting yet another sector of the FPS viewerbase (primarily the audience of a twitch FPS streamer, mother3rd), and a collab with Daruma/Met. In the FPS field, Lauren (56th) is still growing off his insanely long Valorant after-party stream, from which many clips were made.

Ririmu (53th) inclining from the Loser Kings genderbent collab and the subsequent APEX collab. Also her APEX collab with Chii (9th) is weirdly popular for some reason.

Yugioh buff is nearly expiring for everyone, primarily because there's no new content for the game (The Xyz event sucked ass). Mashiro (47th), Mao (63rd) and Natsume (90th) is still benefiting from it, though.

For having the 3D studio shut down and barely any big events for the week, it's surprisingly a good week overall. Next week will have Utako's pre-recorded 3D live and Chronoir's much-awaited free concert, as well as a small Valorant event.

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>>18787165
>waves

>> No.18787378

>>18787250
Fuck.
This is what I get for talking about Nijisanji males all the goddamn time in this thread, my brain has now tied Males = Nijisanji.
SEND HELP.

>> No.18787382

>>18787165 forgot that Yagoo promised to do 3D debut for the ID girls, THEY HAVE ALOT TO CATCH UP jesas.
>>18787173
it hasn't been really, subject's shrouded in mystery, no one really knows the real answer

>> No.18787420

>>18787069
IDs dont have a problem getting subs and then there's Susan subs culls.

ID3 ideally should've been announced now. ID3 holding Expo watch-a-longs would've helped the branch a lot.

>> No.18787441

>>18787069

>when is ID3 coming out anyway

Honestly this month was perfect for it. Literally no debut anniversaries for Hololive so there is a lot of free day spaces. But at this point they might as well do it during HoloFes to try to hype things up even more.

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>>18787184
>Deron (20th) benefits the most amongst JK Gumi.
>picrel
The new custom was kino

>> No.18787449

>>18786843
Nah, she was higher than 10k in January. She fell below 10k in median (tho not average) in October where she was working on her game and the concert, so she only did sponsored streams (debuff for everyone), multi-pov collabs (a known debuff for her), and the release of the game with lain (huge buff that saved her average that month).

>> No.18787485

>>18787382
I thought Mori straight up confirmed Myth 3D + Gura also mentioned it as well.

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Posting from the previous thread to try to stop some of the shitposting.

>Nijisanji's median CCV peaks during the first half of February as posted by graph anon a few days ago

>> No.18787579

>>18787382
Myth is showing up in 3D. The girls seem to be split on whether they can use the 3D after the concert or will have to wait till debut. They’ve been contradicting each other.

>> No.18787587

>>18787485
Debut anonchama, not the expo

>> No.18787633

>>18787069
HoloX 3D debut announcement
Stars New Wave
Possibly announcement of a new branch KR, ESP

>> No.18787857

>>18787420
I wonder what’s taking ID3 so long, I’m guessing they don’t want them to get overshadowed by Holofes and Expo.

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>>18787633
>wave

>> No.18788003

>>18787858
Fucker made the same mistake I did.
I swear all the Nijihomo talk is warping our minds here.

>> No.18788049

>>18787069
I bought the ticket so I wont miss out on EN 3D

>> No.18788078

>>18787857
There are going to be a lot of eyes on Expo as the hype surrounding it is pretty big. I expect some big announcements.

ID3 and new Holostars Gen seem like obvious announcements. I think we could also get an EN 3 announcement since they want to strike while the Iron is hot surrounding Expo. Also actual dates for ID 1 and Myth 3D debuts.

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>>18779888
>Marine now has a higher average CCV than Ayame.

>> No.18788359

>>18786072
>Mysta and Vox are fairly strong but Luca, Shu, and Ike look really weak.
Ike and Luca can actually get pretty okay numbers during zhang times too (6-8k).
The reason why their medians look so bad is because they stream more often in NA times recently than Vox/Mysta, who almost never stream outside in NA times.
Ike's median looks like shit because he's collabing too much with NijiEN girls in bad timeslots for males lol.

>> No.18788432

>>18788003
The true rent free

>> No.18788446

>>18788359
>Ike's median looks like shit because he's collabing too much with NijiEN girls in bad timeslots for males lol.
I'm gonna bet he's trying to build a somewhat stable following so the wave spam doesn't hit him that hard.

>> No.18788521

>>18746695
I remember when she used to read all of them...

>> No.18788545

>>18788078
It’s a bit early for EN3 I think. At the earliest from what the girls have said, they were recruited 2-3 months after auditions closed? And even then Kronii and Kiara didn’t have their L2D models fully rigged until the day before debut.
As for 3D debuts, that’s entirely dependent on when the open up the borders.

>> No.18788559

>>18786843
Mito is a monster to this day. im surprised she's not talked much in here with how consistent she is, even more with her subs.

>> No.18788677

>>18788326
I get the feeling that the Ayame rarity buff is finally wearing off, don't think she'll ever stop being a 10k+ holo tho

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>one of the top most viewed streamers
>somehow also one of the most superchatted
How does he do it?

Will Holostars EN also get their own black guy?

>> No.18788763

>>18788359
All the criticisms surrounding Luxiem can really be compounded onto Vox, Mysta, and Luca (more on him later). Shu and Ike seem find and their content is rather normal with not much pandering. They also attempt to foster a non-zhang audience.

Now about Luca. I hate this fucker more than any of them. At the beginning he was right there with Shu and Ike in being rather normal and, dare I say, cool. However I guess he got corrupted after seeing the numbers Vox and Mysta were getting and turned the pandering dial up to 11 and is by far the most obnoxious and disgusting out of all of them.

>> No.18788764

>>18788717
God damn Ludwig is declining real hard.

>> No.18788807

>>18788559
If they're not like top 5 in the industry, no one really talks about the 10k's because there's so many of them in JP.
Like Gen 5 and Mayori get 10k's quite often, but it's usually gen 5 and Mayori fans that bring them up.
Mito also doesn't have much "explosive" potential, whereas someone like Fuwa can get some pretty stupid-looking numbers during special streams.

>> No.18788815

>>18788764
Dunno if I'm talking out of my ass, but I feel he's too much of a normalfag for youtube.

>> No.18788833

>>18788763
This is hilarious since Shu looks like the faggiest of the bunch.

>> No.18788877

>>18788003
It's time to take a break and have some meds anon...

>> No.18788892

>>18787441
ID3 this month
EN3 next month

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>>18788717
thats alot of views

>> No.18788980

>>18788545
I only said EN3 because the prevailing belief is that Council's debuts were pushed back due to Coco's graduation. I don't think an announcement in March at Expo and a debut in May is that far fetched.

>> No.18789033

>>18787564
>Shiina 9599
>Sasaki 9367
>Mao 5939
>Mashiro 4922
The power of Yugioh spam holy shit

>> No.18789070

>>18788815
If mainstream YouTube streamer viewers aren't normalfags, then what are they?

>> No.18789098

>>18788980
March is probably too soon.
They're in the 'open recruit/scout' model now so they may be taking more time to vet people.

>> No.18789104

>>18788980
I dunno man, it feels like Cover's always waited at least 12 months before new ones. ENs 6 months after the last gen is niji tier

>> No.18789129

>>18789033
Master Duel VTuber tournament when? There's been a lot of them that have already played the game.

>> No.18789146

>>18789104
May would be more like 9 months

>> No.18789256

>>18789129
I'm very certain Nijis are going to do a yugioh tournament at some point.
There's too many of them playing it to not do one.
The problem ofc would be how time-consuming every duel is and how it's only 1v1, but Nijis have done long ass tournaments before.

>> No.18789363

>>18788980
IRyS was delayed, Council debut on time iirc. I’m pretty certain they wanted to debut her in June but that was during Coco’s farewell tour.

>> No.18789374

>>18788892
>ID3 this month
>EN3 next month
hopefully

>> No.18789510

>>18788892
>EN3 next month
HoloEN really needs at least one non-polarizing workhorse.

>> No.18789532

>>18789363
So IRyS stealing Council's debut buff momentum was Coco's fault!

>> No.18789534

>>18788892
>ID3 to tide people over until HoloFes
>use HoloFes to draw attention to EN3

>> No.18789628

>>18789510
They’re cursed by having the workhorse of the gen being the fucking runt. At least Mumei should be able to stream more once she graduates. Kronii is just disappointing with how she doesn’t like streaming.

>> No.18789783

Luca with 429k views in 24 hours on his first cover on his way to pass Bae’s recent cover and Kronii’s original in like 2 days. Also finana’s tsunami

>> No.18789835

>>18789510
I mostly watch JP so I don't keep up with EN much, I'm assuming this is about Baelz? Is she that polarizing? She seemed fine the times I watched her, only her laugh was kinda weird

>> No.18789872

>>18789628
>They’re cursed by having the workhorse of the gen being the fucking runt
Fauna and Sana are the workhorses?

>> No.18789952

>>18789783
I predicted 450k based on the first 5 hours (he was already at like 250k) but 429k is still absurd.
He's going to get 1 mil in a week even accounting for decay.
IIRC That's around what Mumei's orisong got in the first 24 hrs and from what I've seen, Luxiem fans do their music reps much harder than Council fans.

>> No.18789993

>>18789872
Bae was the runt until she started grinding. I just forget Sana exists at this point.

>> No.18790024

>>18789835
>>18789628
Talking about Kiara; she's the EN workhorse but she's polarizing. Rrat is fine but she can't keep up her current pace long-term.

>> No.18790032

>>18789872
>Wasn't here when Bae's median was 4.8k

>> No.18790056

>>18789628
At least Kronii brings out the numbers when she actually streams (11k for fucking House Flipper??), she's still the highest number wise. Sana is literally a forgotten tutorial boss.

>> No.18790074

>>18789628
Kronii was a fucking mistake. I think HoloEN did fine picking Bae, Mumei, and Fauna but Sana and Kronii are mistakes.

>> No.18790122

>>18789952
Comparing Orisongs to covers is a bit silly as usually orisongs have much weaker growth than cover songs. Not to discount it, 400k+ day one is really really good.

>> No.18790137

>>18790074
>11k median EN vtuber was a mistake
Fuck off retard.

>> No.18790200

>>18790074
On paper, Kronii was fine, its just that both scouting and her didn't know she'd have that much of an issue being the face of her gen and she broke under pressure.
Sana was just a straight up mistake. Waste of a slot, not worth the price of having access to an artist. At least Ina can pull her weight in streaming.

>> No.18790231

>>18790074
Kronii has actually been steaming a fair amount recently but too many of those streams are collabs where she doesn't stream her POV. Council is actually the opposite of Myth in that they collab a little TOO much.

>> No.18790234

>>18790024
Doesn't she plan to take a week or two break in the first week of March? Which is good for her not to burn out but I hope all her grind this month won't be wasted.

I don't really like it but what Bae needs is clippable moments, those that can explode and go viral on its own without her needing to grind it. Overall she's definitely inclining though.

>> No.18790249

>>18789872
>Fauna runt
Just look at her views bro. She is arguably stronger than Mumei.

>> No.18790320

>>18790122
Yeah I wasn't trying to directly compare them because obviously covers grow stronger (especially thematic covers like Shien/Luca and Mafia).
Mumei's orisong was just the last holoEN song I remember that got 400k in a day.

My point was, it's first day performance is as good as a non-Gura holoEN song, which is approx 5-10x better than the usual NijiEN music release.

>> No.18790324

>>18789872
Sana might as well not exist, don't even consider her a part of council, just her own thing. Actually lets make Irys the 5th member of council, Sana can be the odd person out. Probably has more collabs with them than Sana does anyways.

>> No.18790397

>>18790200
Yeah, I really like the person behind Sana but she really should just be hired as an artist and not a streamer, that one they really drop the ball on.

Kronii biggest enemy is herself and her mental issues, if she can get over it and improve her talking to the audience she can definitely incline, no need to grind that much even if she's smarter about it. That being said, that mental issue is also what makes her fans relate to her being a doomer zoomer and brings in views and SC, so it's not all mistakes.

>> No.18790446

>>18790324
It's pretty hilarious/baffling how irrelevant Sana is to HoloEN.
If she called into VC on a Jump King stream, there wouldn't even be a bump because no one outside of the 2k core that watches her cares about her.

>> No.18790465

>>18790324
At this point, they could replace the person behind the Sana avatar and most people wouldn't mind because of how much of a failure she's been so far.

>> No.18790548

>>18790324
IRyS has more chemistry with everyone in council than Sana has with anyone.
Honestly, I was rooting for her in the beginning but she’s just a waste of a slot now. She’s more active on her other account’s Twitter than her Holo account.

>> No.18790555

>>18790446
There would legit be people thinking that an indie decided to call based on how little Sana streams.

>> No.18790563

>>18790137
>stream 3 times a month
Yes.

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Hetto has passed IRyS and entered the top 50.

>> No.18790656

>>18790563
>3 times
>When she had streamed 5/7 days from Saturday-Saturday

>> No.18790682

There's still 1 mysteriously absent slot for a leader in Vsaikyou, and going by the past Vsaikyous it's probably a hololive team. The rumors say Hal invited Matsuri but she declined.

>> No.18790702

>>18790563
She already got 6 streams so far with a week left in the month, not counting member only or collabs too.

>> No.18790728

>>18790682
I hope it's not Aqua

>> No.18790764

>>18790682
Didn't Astel said that he's feeling burnt out and this Vsaikyou might be his last, if he's even going to this one? There might be two slots in the future.

>> No.18790768

>>18790548
IRyS did that studio 3D collab with the JP members and Sora immediately attached herself to IRyS (cardboardRyS). They immediately announced a collab with each other after it. Freaking Sora who boxes herself from everybody.

IRyS is really something special when it comes to getting along with everybody. If only cover didn't debuff her so much.

>> No.18790784

>>18790702
>She already got 6 streams so far with a week left in the month
The fact you're considering this an achievement speaks more words than can be said.

>> No.18790785

>>18789532
Anything to deflect from Omegay.
Hope the rrat about his firing is real

>> No.18790932

>>18788807
>Like Gen 5 and Mayori get 10k's quite often, but it's usually gen 5 and Mayori fans that bring them up.
Gen 5 fans being delusional that gen 5 is anywhere near the top of the industry what else is new

>> No.18790958

>>18790570
>haceros
#spit

>> No.18790992

>>18790764
Astel is retarded, he wanted to lower his skill level so HAL lowers his points so he can have a bigger pool of people to invite but it backfired, now he is shit at the game and he is still worth 10 points
played today and he was TRASH, Valorant brain rot

>> No.18790995

>>18789363
Gen 5 was delayed too because Taiwan. Thanks to that they debuted at the same time as Selejo kek.

>> No.18791019

>>18790768
Sora also commented on Irys Valentine's day karaoke

>> No.18791045

>>18790995
Get your timelines straight, Taiwan yab happened AFTER Gen5 debuted. It was the coof that delayed gen5.

>> No.18791075

>>18790995
>Gen 5 was delayed too because Taiwan
Wasn't Gen 5 delayed because of chink flu? It should be Myth the one delayed because of Taiwan, if it even happened.

>> No.18791082

>>18790768
There’s a theory based on IRyS latest members only that either she’s getting a redesign/model update or they’re giving her more creative freedom in her music. Either way it’s a few months out.

>> No.18791113

>>18791045
>>18791075
Really? I forgot what caused the delay but yeah it probably covid now that I think of it.

>> No.18791141

>>18791019
Speaking about that....
IRyS is rerunning her karaoke, but is also voicing the "driver" completely this time around. Shit is hilarious and a good way of adding value to a karaoke rerun.

>> No.18791190

>>18791082
>she’s getting a redesign/model update or they’re giving her more creative freedom in her music
Either way it's good. IRyS need to do cover songs.

>> No.18791212

>>18791082
The music thing might be true. She has a song coming out this month she said she was happy with and Mumei kinda confirmed a second song.

>> No.18791266

>>18791141
Yeah, it's great. Love it when Moona does it

>> No.18791278

>>18790992
Why is he even a 10 when he's not a pred level player?

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can a rebroadcast stream beat her?

>> No.18791348

>>18791308
She actually might if Bae ends.

>> No.18791404

>>18791308
Irys promoted it on Bae's apex stream.

>> No.18791444

>>18790682
Is there a chart with all the people participating?

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>>18791444

>> No.18791572

>>18791075
Myth debut a month before the Taiwan thing happened.

>> No.18791643

>>18791075
Gen 5 was delayed and Myth was rushed to cover for Aloe graduating.

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>>18791278
Nobody knows, he even asked him on stream and HAL just laughed
>nah, you are good
same with Pakael
there's hope though, both of his streams today were to "test" what people wanted to see him play, something along the lines of
>I'll tryhard on whatever people cheer me on
one month is perfectly reasonable to get back some of the level or even better, do some team-practice with whoever he wants to play with

>>18790682
been telling people since they released the invitations, it's gonna be Aqua

>> No.18791892

>>18791681
Aqua would be perfect. Who would she team up with?

>> No.18791946

>>18791544
>>18791681
It's going to be Leona, she's a regular in these, feels weird for her not to be captaining.

>> No.18792056

>>18791681
>aqua joining apex tourney
anon, don stray too far from reality

>> No.18792108

>>18791946
Isn't Re:act dying and has graduated like three of their members recently?

>> No.18792199

>>18790785
Same. He hasn’t really done anything, leadership at HoloEN seems pretty non-existent. I guess that’s what happens when you shove a translator into a director/producer role.

>> No.18792203

>>18792108
Dying is Re:act's normal operating procedure.

>> No.18792211

>>18791544
Was Shiro carried? I can't see her beating Ars honestly. Also, why Ars? I wanted to see more of her with Towa.

>> No.18792237

>>18791892
Matsuri/Ayame/Roboco

>> No.18792281

>>18791681
Nah, I doubt it. Cover wouldn't allow their prized talents to be exploited by other groups without getting something in return.

>> No.18792315

>>18792281
>without getting something in return.
you don't know what vsaiko is right?

>> No.18792328

>>18791946
This makes more sense. Even Qu, Deron, Ayame and Roboco make more sense than Aqua.

>> No.18792365

>>18792211
Who knows? The Emperor decides who he wants to invite for the tournament on his whim.

>> No.18792372

>>18792315
What do you mean?

>> No.18792464

>>18792237
Matsuri is playing with the menheras again, almost guaranteed
Towa with some of the vspo
Aqua would play with Shion and [wildcard]
Astel reviving ARC stars with Choco-Robo

>> No.18792477

>>18792211
Ars is from Nijisanji and is popular.

>> No.18792542

>pekora down
>Rushia down
>marine down
I can't believe its up to Flare and Noel to carry sankisei

>> No.18792643

>>18792542
>The golden gen

>> No.18792653

>>18792542
Lesbian power.

>> No.18792718

>>18792464
Aqua & Shion on Shiina's team?
Point wise it is possible and aqua knew shiina iirc

>> No.18792813

>>18792203
I only know Leona, Qu, and Kyo from there. Even Qu paused streaming and is music only now.

>> No.18792882

>>18792718
>nijiholo team without towa
not happening

>> No.18792884

>>18792211
Ars is only platinum but she likes tournaments and shows up in even cr cup a bunch. Makes sense to give her a team leader spot. She has the connections to make a team.

>> No.18792931

>>18791946
Leona is too unpopular to be a captain.

>> No.18792944

>>18792542
>times change
i'm not prepared anon

>> No.18792973

>>18792718
Or rather Aqua&Okayu, would be dope although the possibility of Aqua joining the tourney itself is pretty low.
The thought of Aqua joining his tourney would probably make the Emperor drool from imagining how much numbers she will bring to the table.

>> No.18793021

>>18792718
Not gonna happen. Cover wouldn't allow it even if Aqua agrees.

>> No.18793022

>>18792718
A NASS team minus Sasaki would be awesome, but extremely unlikely

>> No.18793023

>>18792931

she already was captain on these a lot of times tho

>> No.18793033

In like 9 months, Nijisanji had debuted 4 gens and an upcoming one soon. It's as if 1 month = 6 months for them and 2 months = 1 year. That's why Luxiem celebrated their one month anniversary as if it's their half-year anniversary.

>> No.18793078

>>18792211
Its another step for the Ars personal growth arc. She's now decent at collabing and interacting with people, next step is responsibility and leadership.

>> No.18793083

>>18790728
I don't know if you are joking but Aqua joining would be pretty bad news. It would have similar effect of Jun joining Cr Cup. Aqua crew would just go after everyone who killed aqua or shit talk her team.

>> No.18793146

>>18793033
Those fags just want money. You kinda have to be thick-skinned if you wanna survive in Nijisanji.

>> No.18793165

>>18793033
I take it that Nijisanji will never do birthday/anniversary merch for them like Hololive does? Don’t think Enna got anything for her birthday today.

>> No.18793182

>>18792464
Anon, most of vspo have their own teams.

>> No.18793193

>>18792931
She was the captain in all three prior iterations, and her team even won the second one anon

>> No.18793207

>>18793165
Depends if you're popular or have enough clout.

>> No.18793210

>>18793165
>birthday merch
They don't even do anything for Niji JP outside very basic merch.

>> No.18793328

>>18793083
Holy moly the delusion.

>> No.18793375

>>18791681
I bet it's gonna be one from Iwanaga's new group.

>> No.18793386

>>18793146
I don't blame the talents, the company is much at fault here for trying out their old plan in debuting more gens. It produces an opposite effect to the box-push that nijiEN are trying to create by copying HoloJP. The only reason they're still lagging behind HoloEN is probably that they don't have anyone popular as a mascot until recently but Vox and Mysta can't carry them all. At most, Vox and Mysta only carries the same vibe as Calli and Kiara, but they don't have a similar impact to Calli herself.

>> No.18793389

>>18793165 (me)
That said, there’s 4 HoloEN birthdays in the next 30 days (Bae, IRyS, Kronii, Fauna) on top of Council 6 month merch next week.

>> No.18793423

>>18793165
Not even voice packs?

>> No.18793482

>>18793083
That's pretty far-reaching there. Jun's viewers are notorious for being toxic everywhere, and I don't remember Aquacrews nearing their level. Also Aqua is actually good at the game unlike Jun.

>> No.18793583

>>18793423
The only voice pack merch they’ve gotten is the big group ones along with acrylic stands and pin badges iirc
I’m not sure about Nijisanji but from the sales from the Hololive side, they don’t really sell much in terms of volume for voice packs (personally they make me cringe).

>> No.18793590

>>18793328
Spotted the chink trying to defend his fellow Aquachink fans

>> No.18793615

>>18793482
Hal's not going to invite Aqua directly. He's probably hoping those team leads he chose would do it for him. Hal is scummy but he's still a Japanese.

>> No.18793715

>>18793482
Yes, aqua is world class at apex, one of the best female vtubers, and her fans are not as bad as junfags. But her joining would still have a similar affect.

>> No.18793740

>>18793165
>Nijisanji will never do birthday/anniversary merch for them
NijiJP almost always does birthday merch, just no Bday lives for pretty obvious reasons.
No merch for overseas branches as far as I know.

Just from scrolling their twitter page:
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1495231764540932100?cxt=HHwWiIC-5cTXkMApAAAA
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1494960002901053441?cxt=HHwWgsCs5faMlb8pAAAA
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1494148397992792066?cxt=HHwWhMCigaeDpLwpAAAA
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1493434921691623425?cxt=HHwWgsC9qcLJ37kpAAAA

>> No.18793745
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cmon irys

>> No.18793778

>>18793615
Yeah that's also what I thought. Wouldn't be surprised if he tried recommending her to some of the leaders who's kind of close with her.

>> No.18793834
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Wait a second, this is nijiarchive and they're setting up a paywall so that fans could see the items belonging to livers? Why exactly do they keep monetizing things that's unnecessary, their livers aren't even celebrities like Holos. It's the same tacky shit they do by monetizing main channels and have big events streamed live there.

>> No.18793859

>>18793778
Shiina has never invited her so I doubt it will ever happen

>> No.18793969

Roboco gold tonight

>> No.18794069

>>18793834
Desperate for money.

>> No.18794070

>>18793969
Started before Ratna and the latter already surpassed her despite being late, this is sad

>> No.18794093

>>18793834
They're still continuing on selling that? Now I'm curious on how many of that thing sold last year.

>> No.18794299

>>18793740
Got a link to a not-popular vtuber?

>> No.18794425

>>18793740
And its all the exact same merch just with the corresponding livers picture.

>> No.18794432

>>18791643
>and Myth was rushed to cover for Aloe graduating.
where is this shit coming from?

>> No.18794440

>>18794299
The only male below 100k in NIJIJP, ranked 105th here >>18787184
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1375296473806479367

>> No.18794571

>>18793740
It's all the same merch just with different image...

>> No.18794573

>>18794440
Ok, why is it the same merch?

>> No.18794601

>>18793386
Yes anon, im pretty sure they are copying holojp, not Nijisanji ID that has been doing that since 2019

>> No.18794633

>>18794573
Cheaper to produce and higher profit margins I’m guessing?

>> No.18794635

>>18794432
Newfag, everyone knows that

>> No.18794711

>>18793033
In 9 months, half of their cast broke records for nijisanji with a sub growth so big to the point they are now in the top 10 for 100k, 200k and 300k with more growth in the entire agency. EN is a huge success to them, their first one overseas.

>> No.18794773

>>18794633
If it's cheap to make, why didn't they do it for EN?

>> No.18794801

>>18794773
They don't want to deal with shipping I guess?

>> No.18794855

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000079.000044525.html
Another Vtuber company went into NFT

>> No.18794870

>>18794801
Cheap bastards. Ina got a fuckhuge merch for her birthday.

>> No.18794872

>>18794773
I think they were talking about merch some days ago, they will probably get things like those

>> No.18794882 [DELETED] 

>thread is shit
>full of nijiniggers
hlg every time

>> No.18794921

>>18794882
>thread is shit
The usual

>> No.18794929

>>18794870
That thing is easy to transport actually. You can just use vacuum to make it flat.

>> No.18794950

Today silver
https://youtu.be/ghW5yVtBgH4

>> No.18794951
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>>18794921
sorry, I posted on the wrong tab

>> No.18794995

>>18794929
Easier to transport than a keychain? That big Tako cost a lot to ship.

>> No.18795066

>>18787441
it's a little too early for that, auditions ended in september so the earliest they'd debut would be sometime in march. Most likely they'd debut in April with an announcement at Holofes

>> No.18795173

>>18794801
>>18794870
Niji birthday merch consists of posters, badges and keychains with the liver's art on it. It's cheap to produce and ship all over Japan. But not so much for overseas, when those merch could easily go beyond $50 for cheap gift shop-tier products. It ain't worth it. Myth at least had plushies, toys, shirts, aprons, vinyls that can become a collectible especially Gura's nendo.

>> No.18795196

>>18794711
Top 10 Fastest Liver to 250K

Vox Akuma - 44 Days
Mysta Rias - 53 Days
Lain Paterson - 152 Days
Leos Vincent - 166 Days
Lauren Iroas - 183 Days
Tsukino Mito - 189 Days
Ars Almal - 258 Days
Elira Pendora - 265 Days
Finana Ryugu - 281 Days
Hoshikawa Sara - 292 Days

fastest to reach 200k

Leos Vincent - 11 Days
Lain Paterson - 11 Days
Vox Akuma - 32 Days
Mysta Rias - 37 Days
Ike Eveland - 49 Days
Luca Kaneshiro - 54 Days
Shu Yamino - 54 Days
Lauren Iroas - 90 Days
Tsukino Mito - 99 Days
Nina Kosaka - 124 Days
Axia Krone - 144 Days
Selen Tatsuki - 155 Days
Elira Pendora - 159 Days
Ars Almal - 184 Days
Finana Ryugu - 187 Days

Top 10 Livers with the fastest time to 250K

Vox Akuma - 44 Days
Lain Paterson - 152 Days
Leos Vincent - 166 Days
Lauren Iroas - 183 Days
Tsukino Mito - 189 Days
Ars Almal - 258 Days
Elira Pendora - 265 Days
Hoshikawa Sara - 292 Days
Suzuhara Lulu - 308 Days
Otogibara Era - 310 Days

>> No.18795199

https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1495594122916380672

Holo putting up station ads for holoexpo in 47 prefectures.

>> No.18795243

>>18795196
shit i posted the 250k two times. the first 250k one is outdated

>> No.18795276

>>18794951
I wonder if a lewd vtuber group does a booth-fan meeting like this, but when you get inside the booth, there's no TV inside there. All you get is a hole at waist-level and a tongue sticking out. 5 minute "meeting" for $100.

>> No.18795370

>>18795196
>liver

>> No.18795404

>>18787857
The auditions ended in september, it usually takes about 5-6 months from end of auditions to debut so this is just the usual timeline

>> No.18795405

>>18794635
so spouted by some tard on /hlgg/ and everyone ate it up

>> No.18795407

>>18795199
Isn’t HoloExpo a ticket lottery system?

>> No.18795494

>>18793389
Bae- Feb. 29th crazy wacky leapyear
Kronii- March 14th, Pi Day, because time is math or something idk
IRyS March 7th not sure probably some Chuuni lore reason?
Fauna-March 21st, International Tree Day, could have picked Arbor Day (April 29th) and spread it out some, or Earth Day

>> No.18795539

>>18795173
No merch is cheap to ship overseas. They could of sold the items separately or in a full package and let the consumer decide.

>> No.18795581

>>18795407
They also have general ticket sales from the 5th of March.

>> No.18795597

Damn even when RBC is the only HoloJP streaming nobody watches.

>> No.18795616

>>18790992
He stopped playing as much because he's tired of cheaters and his rank makes it difficult to play with others unless they're his level, not because he was trying to trick Hal into lowering his points.

>> No.18795649

>>18795199
what's the odds of this being cancelled too due to coof?

>> No.18795703

IRyS 9.1k get on rebroadcast.

>> No.18795710

>>18795196
You can kinda see the moment Luxiem started to blow up (around 3 weeks after their debuts).
Took Vox 33 days to get to 200k but he got the next 50k in 11 days and he's now at 334k around 60 days.
Meanwhile, Edengumi's subgrowth is essentially dead after their first month.

>> No.18795779

>>18795649
Hololive has already run several events while navigating the coof successfully so pretty small.

>> No.18795804

Luna gets to play the power wash game but not Gura. It's hilarious how badly they treat HoloEN.

>> No.18795812
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rebroadcast stream

>> No.18795873

>>18795812
Kiawa...

>> No.18795891

lol, I just got recommended Gura's duolingo stream.

>> No.18795964

>>18795804
I hate HoloEN management.
They keep debuff their talents.

>> No.18795980

>>18795649
Unless some of them suddenly caught the coof near the event date similar to what happened to Niji's, pretty low. The number of infected in Tokyo have also starting to decrease in recent days.

>> No.18796000

>>18795597

she would get better numbers streaming something else but apex.. people will just watch ratna or sumomo pov instead. they are better players

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>>18795812

>> No.18796108

>>18795980
hope they prerecord the concert part to avoid cancellations

>> No.18796127

>>18787165
nah, Myth 3D will be homemade and they won't have to go to Japan for that iirc
unless there's a separate arrangement for debuts

>> No.18796237

>>18792542
Marine seems to be coming back hoenstly

>> No.18796325

>>18796127
They will do the same thing they did with gen 3.

>> No.18796341

When NijiEN new gen debut and Cover does nothing,its will be over for Hololive.

>> No.18796390

>>18794950
these raft collabs are multipov

>> No.18796396

>>18796237
Marine is Ayame now,
Pekora as well.

>> No.18796410

>>18796341
Two more weeks nijisis, stay strong

>> No.18796456

>>18793834
they literally need all the money they can scrape up right now, please understand

>> No.18796515

>>18796410
Yep,Cant wait Cover making more streaming restrictions for HoloEN.

>> No.18796557

>>18796456
>Now
They couldn't even ship keychains.

>> No.18796562

>>18793834
Niji's business model isn't sustainable in the long run. They rely on the popularity of said-livers, but they aren't that popular.

>> No.18796570

>>18794855
>Named Re:volt
The jokes write themselves.

>> No.18796576

>>18793834
... so many signs of financial troubles, and THIS public as well...
I wonder if their credit rating is shit or something, normally Japanese companies typically take a loan or something to tide over dire straights until they can get a payday

>> No.18796646

>>18796576
Maybe they shouldn't have spent all that money on their office.

>> No.18796661

Hmm actually I'm surprised the pink coyote only have one frame up for today, and it's a shilling stream to boot. Maybe I'm just too used to her having multiple frames in a day.

>> No.18796675

>>18796576
No wonder they are releasing new EN boys,need more fujo money.

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>>18796341

>> No.18796685

>>18793834
It's funny that anykara tried to enforece and strenghten nijisanji's brand name as much as they could at the expense of their livers, but ended up got overshadowed by hololive that done the opposite. Nowdays people perceive hololive as one entity while nijisanji is reduced to kuzuha and friends

>> No.18796708

>>18796661
1 stream for her is basically break day for everyone else.

>> No.18796856

>>18795199
Damn. I coulndt had imagine this 3years ago. If you told 2019 me that holo will be this big, i would laught at anons and call them schizo

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>>18795804
>>18795964

>> No.18796934

>>18795199
Let's go, Holostar and Council poster all over Japan.

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>>18796688

>> No.18797017

>>18796576
... seriously though, why do all this squeezing instead of just taking a short term loan?
Can any lurking JPfags explain?

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>>18795804
>>18795964

>> No.18797056

>>18797017
Maybe they already took out loans for the cancelled concert.

>> No.18797069

>>18797017
wait, there's actually people buying into the anycolor bankruptcy schizo lmao

>> No.18797079

>>18790785
>>18792199
There is no Omega. It's just an account used by everyone in the staff team.

>> No.18797114

>>18796576
They literally do that shit for years you fucking retards. Holy shit, nijisanji archive is something that happens since 2018. newfags who dont know shit kek

>> No.18797138

>>18797069
i have the receipts

>> No.18797163

>>18797069
Of course there are. This thread here is anti-nijisanji house

>> No.18797274

>>18789070
A mix of weebs and heavily international audiences.

Basic-ass white dude doesn't really appeal to either of those demographics, but it did have traction on Twitch.

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>>18797069
Explain their recent actions then?

>> No.18797333

>>18797017
They probably already took out a loan for the concert so that's making getting any further loans really difficult

>> No.18797385

>>18797293
There's a difference between cutting underperforming assets and bankruptcy. Did Hololive go bankrupt when they stopped support for their AR phone app?

>> No.18797409

>>18797385
Didn't that thing get an update.

>> No.18797448

>>18797385
you think those anons even know about finances? Activision blizzard was performing record profits and closing branches. EA does the same as well. It's not always that you are doing badly that you cut parts of your subsidiaries.

>> No.18797460

>>18797385
yes because a phone app is the same level as THREE ENTIRE FUCKING BRANCHES, YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING DOOFUS

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>>18797448

>> No.18797486

>>18797385
Pretty sure it was only put on sleep for a bit because they were updating it?
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000470.000030268.html

>> No.18797498

In other news Flare popped up on OOTL
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/sx4z3o/what_is_up_with_%E4%B8%8D%E7%9F%A5%E7%81%AB%E3%83%95%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A23d%E6%96%B0%E3%83%93%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%81%8A%E6%8A%AB%E9%9C%B2%E7%9B%AE_popping_up_on/?

>> No.18797581

>>18797460
>THREE ENTIRE FUCKING BRANCHES
NijiIN?
Luxiem probably made more money in SCs for Anycolor than NijiKR and NijiID anyways.

>> No.18797584

>>18797498
Any theories on how her hashtag popped up on the recommended hashtags of someone who doesn't seem to know about VTubers?

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How much did niji pay my nigga rpr for this collab?

>> No.18797654

>>18797584
Maybe topics? I click on not interested on every single topic and sometimes I get weird shit being recommended.

>> No.18797667

What's the last time the Holo top 2 VOD gainer for past 30 days are both singer?

>> No.18797664

>>18797581
yumenographia, which is honestly the more damaging out of all of them because of the money they poured into setting up the infrastructure of it.

>> No.18797670

>>18797581
the idiot probably is thinking about yumenographia who isn't even part of nijisanji. if not, nijiIN is something from a year ago with only 3 members, while ID and KR will pretty much exist within the main branch.
And as you said EN and JP probably offset those costs alone.

>> No.18797677

>>18797069
The signs are there.

>> No.18797680

>>18797584
Worldwide trending?

>> No.18797692

>>18797448
>Activision blizzard
so you haven't kept up with the news have you?

>> No.18797724

>>18797692
Yes, I have. It doesn't change they just reported record profit and revenue even with the scandals.

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>>18797498
>Hololive is too sexual
Someone tell them.

>> No.18797741

>>18796688
>SEA struggling to write words in english
Please keep studying anon

>> No.18797742

>>18797448
and now Microsoft is buying blizzard, even COD can't save blizzard anon

>> No.18797767

>>18797448
yeah, it just means you're a black company that puts profit over the welfare of their employees, jsut like the examples you named you fucking doofus
Nijiniggers and self owning name a more iconic duo

>> No.18797782

>>18797767
Nijisanji and nijicope

>> No.18797804

>>18797670
Are you implying that any failed ventures of Anycolor especially the size of Yumegra wouldn't affect their other projects as well?

>> No.18797889

>>18797742
Yes, and now microsoft is buying activision blizzard due to sexual scandals. I'm talking about their very own finances, not internal issues.
>>18797767
Guess Hololive is a black company because they closed their chinese branch.

>> No.18797890

>>18797804
Anykara can have as many failed ventures as they please because they actually have the funds and backing

Compare that to a literal black company like Cover whose finances are dependent on undercutting their talents. If Error, Holofest or Holo Alt fails, the whole company crumbles

>> No.18797914

>>18797385
I don't think so cause Cover weren't desperate enough to force their talents to make voice packs or do SC readings to keep their company afloat.

>> No.18797929

>>18797804
I'm implying Nijisanji and Yumenographia are two different projects, unlike you holotards act like "nijisanji graduated 53 from yumenographia" like the subhumans you are.

>> No.18797971

>>18797914
There's literally SC readinds in hololive daily. And voice packs have been a main product in njisanji for ages, not even obligatory. but you wouldnt know this right shitposter kun

>> No.18797976

>>18797889
>Oh no Nijisanji closed three of their branches for internal financial reasons
>Lets compare them to HoloCN, who was shut down practically at gunpoint
The absolute state of nijiniggers

>> No.18797997

>>18797889
Yes anon, because NijiKR, NijiIN, NijiID and Yumenographia were shut down because Korea, Inida, Indonesia and Japan all rose up in arms and cut them off from their local market.
Oh wait that didn't happen

>> No.18798010

>>18797976
If you believe holocn was doing well you have to be delusional.

>> No.18798026

>>18797976
>NOOO, YOU CAN'T COMPARE COVER BEING FORCED TO CLOSE A BRANCH TO NIJISANJI BEING FORCED TO CLOSE A BRANCH
The absolute state of Holofaggots

>> No.18798034

>>18797890
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NIJICOPE

>> No.18798048

>>18797914
>force their talents to make voice packs or do SC readings to keep their company afloat.
I wonder how many tourists end up actually believing these rrats

>> No.18798050

>>18797929
In the context of the convo, they are practically the same talent-centric projects just like we lump Hololive and Holostars together even though thei operate independently. Having a catastrophic failure with any of these projects is gonna affect the whole company is what I'm saying.

>> No.18798077

>>18797890
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies

>> No.18798084

tourist random question :
does NijiJP Male ever collabs with Holostar?
something like Kuzuha/Toya collabs with Astel/Roberu

>> No.18798108

>>18798026
>NIJISANJI BEING FORCED TO CLOSE A BRANCH
Lmao Nijisanji wasn't forced to do anything, they choose to close their branches of their own volition

>> No.18798125

>>18797997
NijiKR and ID vtubers that still exist in the company and will continue to collab and interacting with other vtubers. There's a reason hada and nari are even doing valorant collabs with JP already. While the branches effectively are dead, they were merged much like Seeds and Gamers, that were separate branches in JP, were.
>>18798050
They aren't the same thing at all beacuse unlike hololive who puts Holostars and Hololive under Hololive Production, Anycolor always had those two things separate from each other.

>> No.18798134

>>18797971
>>18798048
Wait, are you niggers actually denying what Rosemi said on stream or you guys don't watch streams at all?

>> No.18798136

>>18798026
Forced? Like... due to financial issues perhaps?

>> No.18798147

>>18798084
>does NijiJP Male ever collabs with Holostar?
I'm sure it's happened in the past, but Niji girls have collabed with Holostars, like Ange being on Aruran's show.
>something like Kuzuha/Toya collabs with Astel/Roberu
Honestly, it doesn't feel like they're even in the same cliche so it's not a natural collab idea. Astel kinda only plays FPS games within HoloPro.

>> No.18798196

>>18798108
I'm pretty sure when you choose to close a branch, you are forced in the sense that you need to do it to offset the cost if it's operating in loss. This cost now for KR and ID will be non existent because they all will be in the main branch that has no chances of dying.

>> No.18798223

that was a good relay tonight, from Kiara to Bae & Mumei.

>> No.18798245

>>18795196
>Tsukino Mito - 189 Days
Fucking how, Mito virality is insane. I wish I was there back in 2018 to watch her

>> No.18798249

>>18798134
NTA, but source? Seems like a juicy clip.

>> No.18798256

>>18798125
Are you retarded? They wouldn't put such distinction if they are the same projects at all.
Yumegra failing was huge because it undoubtedly affected Nijisanji so much that it even prompted people like Kanae to and Gwelu to denounce the company.

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>> No.18798304

>>18798256
>denounce the company
>still working in same company
One day, when you tell enough lies, they might suddenly come true Holofaggot chama
But today is not that day

>> No.18798325

>>18798134
It's completely know for years that you aren't obligated to participate. there's a reason only pomu, petra, selen, rosemi and reimu were part of the last vp

>> No.18798328

>>18798084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQtZrQj8AHQ
Roberu and Maimoto
there was also a amongus game between him and some nijis
don't remember a 1on1 collab right now but there might be one in his bartalks

>> No.18798342

>>18798084
Yeah Maimoto has plenty of times for example.

>> No.18798341

>>18798276
kek

>> No.18798362

>>18797677
NTA but I wouldn't say they're going bankrupt just yet, but kind of heading to that direction. With the concerts cancelled that means the influx of revenue that they forecasted ages ago when they were planning for it is now out of the window. They're probably dipping into their reserve cash now, and they couldn't really afford any spending that might not return profits which led to the ID and KR merge to offset their cost.

Wonder how these 2 events will do, might help to rope them out of this sticky situation.
https://anniversaryfes.nijisanji.jp/eve-festival/
https://anniversaryfes.nijisanji.jp/tokyo-revenge/

>> No.18798369

>>18798249
Look for Pomu complaining about being forced by the management to participate in a tourney and Rosemi bitching about deadlines being too tight for her voice packs.

>> No.18798428

>>18798369
hahaha the fact that you are mentioning that pomu thing is just the piece of the cake. what a retarded argument.

>> No.18798436

>>18798369
>bitching about deadlines
Gura felt the pain and almost made her cry just from sharing it on stream lmao

>> No.18798451

>>18798362(me)
I'm retarded, it's from last year.

>> No.18798454

>>18798362
Those two concerts are last year.

>> No.18798475

>>18798362
There's 0 chance of anycolor going bankrupt. If fucked up agencies like .Live and their parent company still exist, they will be fine. even more when you dont have access to their finances.

>> No.18798478

>>18798369
>twisting words like a nijinigger anti would do to Holos
Oh, so literally nothing then.
I thought there was something interesting here for a second.
Holos bitch about deadlines all the time.

>> No.18798545

>>18798478
People from Nijisanji being forced by the management is a norm for them.

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-JSeFfovhNsEhftt1WHMvg/videos
The Nijisanji English official channel has switched strategies from shorts to clickbait thumbnails. It seems to have worked since the video got a lot more views than the shorts and they got a little boost in subs from it.

>> No.18798600

>>18798276
Kek

>> No.18798637

>>18797069
yeah it's fucking stupid.. they can be a little bit greedy tho

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>>18798304
Don't underestimate Japanese people

>> No.18798647

>>18798478
Go watch streams instead of thread reading you nijinigger. Stop joining in convos you know nothing about.

>> No.18798689

>>18798545
no, it isn't. Special events like the pomu thing is a special case that happens here and there, while rosemi thing is something she decided to be part of.

>> No.18798709

>>18798647
>Go watch streams instead of thread reading you nijinigger.
Ironic.
Stop lying about people who don't even know you exist, fucking retard.

>> No.18798718

>>18798304
Have you even heard of Niji resistance you tourist?

>> No.18798732

>>18798637
Both Anycolor and Cover are extremely greedy. They are companies. There's a reason their merchandise is expensive asf

>> No.18798748

>>18798647
>>18798369
You don't even watch Holos so stfu

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>Nijinigger got baited by a tweet post on catalog
>losing arguments and got btfo
>start sperging at every thread

>> No.18798812

>>18798748
so like you guys dont watch nijis and still talk about teh agency and everything? funny

>> No.18798824

>>18798732
Cover doesn't price their ASMRs 5 times more than the market price and ban those artists that supported them through the years for it.

>> No.18798891

Pomu already complained in that discord leak about being forced to read "idol" lines. She also made fun of Rosemi's fan.

>> No.18798946

>>18798084
From the tops of my head Robert collabed with Yumeo, Maimoto, Nagao, Yashiro, Belmond, Albio, Mayuzumi and I'm sure there's more, also Debi and Ryuushen if you count those as male
Pizza dad mostly hanging out with Naruse
Astel collabed once with Kanae

>> No.18798990

>>18798891
Do you think Council wanted to do that cringe as fuck first collab on their debut day where they had to go through gibberish lore videos to segway into announcing Omega's existence?

>> No.18799043

>>18798891
What discord leak?

>> No.18799065

>>18798990
Have you ever worked in your life? Stop asking such worthless questions, anon.

>> No.18799101

>>18798990
Councils are embracing their lore.
Even using it for their original songs.

>> No.18799106

>>18798084
I think Itou life has done shit with Roberu too since Raifu sensei is part of that group of friends Tamaki, Ui, Maimoto, Tomari, Haneru, etc are part of and Roberu has been interacting with them.
Also once saw Kanae joining Astel.

>> No.18799155

>>18798891
Pomu is a trainwreck. Wasn't she the one who promoted pirated anime on stream cause she's too poor to buy a legit one?

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>>18798276
15 hours in MS paint

>> No.18799174

>>18799065
That's the point, everyone is "forced" to do something they might not be thrilled to do when they're an employee.
It's the same for both Holos and Nijis.

>> No.18799267

>>18799155
Idk about pirating anime, but Finana talked about pirating japanese goods in two different streams.

>> No.18799272

>>18799170
>funds
maybe if they don't rent an office that's luxurious, they can still survive. Imagine an office near a 5* Hotel, mall, two parts, train stations, hospital etc

>> No.18799281

>>18797385
They literally just updated Hololy in december to version 2.1.

>> No.18799292

>>18798891
>>18798812
I watch Hololive and Nijisanji so I know Cover and Ichikara are black companies, you guys are just cringy idiots who don't watch even the ones you pretend to like.

>> No.18799297

>>18799174
Why are you such a pedantic fuck?
Cover doesn't force their talents to do SC readings, do voice packs, or even stream just so the company would earn more at the expense of their talent's well being.
Nijisanji does all those things and pump more talents into the market because all they care about is money. That's the difference.

>> No.18799316

>>18799292
Sure you are twitchtard

>> No.18799342

So.. uh, any numbers?

>> No.18799405

>>18798276
>"I-I keep failing but that's ok because I am rich!!!"
How about try not to fail in the first place?

>> No.18799410

>>18799297
>Nijisanji does all those things
Can't wait for Kuzuha to start doing SC reading streams and Kenmochi to be forced to stream every day so the company can survive bankruptcy.

>> No.18799426

>>18799297
because he's a nijinigger who needs to make thier company look good no matter what.
It's hilarious how they keep accusing holofags of being bootlickers when nijiniggers will jump out of the woodwork and perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to defend their company if they are even remotely shittalked

>> No.18799472

>>18799342
nah, no streams going on except some small apex from both holo and niji.

>> No.18799476

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less Money is good thing
>The numbers do not reflect the quality of the content
>NijiEN chat interaction is actually soulful
>Gacha rolling streams shouldn't count for medals
>on a per event basis
>Leaving SCs on is SC begging
>nijisanji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>Nijisanji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich

>> No.18799480

>>18799292
Fence-sitters' attentions and supports are too spread out to be meaningful.
The chuubas get blurred out that you can only see their numbers.
How's your SC history?

>> No.18799492

>>18799106
>>18798946
>>18798342
>>18798328
>>18798147
oh, okay thanks... I just wondering why homobeggar insist on female-male collabs when they already have relevant collabs partners with the same target audience. guess, just retarded EOP redditor.

>> No.18799495

>>18799342
RBC Apex at 2.7k
was feeling bad then i checked Nijimado
why is nijiEN playing OW?

>> No.18799501

>>18799342
It's shitposting hours, come back in 8 hours or something.

>> No.18799502

>>18799426
>*lies*
>Stop lying, retard
>wahhhh Nijinigger defense force
Fuck off faggot

>> No.18799538

>>18799410
Kuzuha already been forced to adhere to the chink stakeholders. He has to delete his retweet of Coco, and forced to avoid the topic as long as he's still affiliated with AnyColor.

>> No.18799582

>>18799297
>>18799410
Aren't there also people who almost never enable superchats?

>> No.18799599

>>18799502
Maybe if you kept to doing that instead of going "B-But cover does it too" people might be more sympathetic to your cause

>> No.18799617

>>18799582
Mito still doesn't have memberships and she's been doing this for 4 years.

>> No.18799639

>>18799170
I'm going to make this the OP of the next thread

>> No.18799643

>>18799492
Two reasons. Either they're warriors who want to bring down the 'idol culture' they made up in their heads or they think the girls will magically make the homos superstars by association which is just as delusional.

>> No.18799647

>>18799492
cause they don't watch streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcxdJykLazc&list=PL7qnG4uUKOXf0gmgi3WKxGNM7tbi3C8Fi&index=29&t=3870s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOZYRyNQANA&list=PL7qnG4uUKOXf0gmgi3WKxGNM7tbi3C8Fi&index=25
its up to the tallents who they want to collab with

>> No.18799656
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Umm... Arkbros... How do we save ARK?

>> No.18799659

>>18799492
Beggars are beggars.
No money, no time.
They could have used their time creating amazing fan arts to promote their "favorite", but no, they spend their day virtue-signalling instead like "war veterans" panhandling at the intersections.

>> No.18799679

>>18799342
>>18799495
Akina is playing Apex with 7k
Ratna has 4k playing with Roboco, but the number is surprisingly low, she's supposed to be a 7-8k chuuba

>> No.18799683

>>18799342
Luca's cover reached 456k in one day. The fujos are doing work.

>> No.18799731

>>18799582
Yes, before. But now that they are in trouble financially, Deron proclaimed on her anniversary that she'd start doing SC readings and presumably establish her own gachikois because their staff are kinda guilt tripping her about what Nijisanji did for her career.

>> No.18799752

>>18799679
maybe its a bad time-slot for her? or its the manjinsanji effect and the male pov is sucking up all the apex tourist that usualy watch her

>> No.18799757

>>18799495
I don't know. Not many games that can have 12 people collab I guess? Maybe they're big fans of the overwatch girls club and some of the girls want to catch Towa's attention to try and get in lol?

>> No.18799792

>>18799757
>I don't know. Not many games that can have 12 people collab I guess?
wasted chance to add Ruskis to their fanbase by not playing CS

>> No.18799815

>>18799538
>Kuzuha already been forced to adhere to the chink stakeholders.
Yeah, he's going to be forced to do SC readings and stream by Anycolor, according to the Niji experts in this thread.

Can't wait for his first SC reading stream. Usually, these streams are numbers poison, but Kuzuha can probably still get 10k.
Kenmochi might actually need to do a game stream tho since Anycolor is going to force him to stream 5 times a week.

>> No.18799838

>>18799492
Those are false-flagging Nijiniggers who want to normalize male-female collab without realizing that Hololive and Holostars are two complete different projects just like Nijisanji, Yumegra, and VTA are separate from each other. They can collab but it's up to the discretion of the talents themselves.

>> No.18799851

>>18799731
Even after more than three years of streaming, Nijisanji still doesn't provide a base salary. The girls are better off graduating and opening up their own channels. It's been done, and it's been successful.

>> No.18799855

>>18799815
I think you miss one important point on that list, bro.

>> No.18799874

>>18799656
Good riddance. I hope the only time they decided to go back to that game is to fight the boss which will generate great numbers. Then they can fuck off again.

>> No.18799884

>>18799492
>female-male collabs
Specifically hololive Collab, even though Holostars best Collab partners are 774inc girls. Izuru first female collab was Met ffs

>> No.18799906

>>18799815
didn't Kuzuha recently have a minor controversy where he gave shoutouts to other streamers for scs?

>> No.18799914

>>18799815
Kuzuha already did the "Hey, 2views! I'll give you a shout out if you pay me enough" stream, which he later had to apologize after negative receptions. For sure, he'll do it again.

>> No.18799940

>>18799851
Yeah but Nijisanji is smarter now. Any big events that would buff their talents, they'd stream it on the main channel instead. They don't want their talents to outgrow the company.

>> No.18799942

>>18799906
I wouldn't call it recent but yeah.

>> No.18799994

>>18799495
Maybe OW is making a comeback? NijiJP, VSPO and Towa played it a bit

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>>18799656
I hope they will abandoned it soon

>> No.18800015

>>18799942
It was last month, come on

>> No.18800074

>>18799838
No, those are redditors, they have been doing this since 2020 when only a few westerns knew Nijisanji.

>> No.18800083

>>18799942
eh my sense of time is gone thanks to home-office and lockdowns
>>18799994
bit weird considering the whole ow2 situation
then again i never got into the game so what do i know

>> No.18800163

>>18799994
no, it's just that overwatch is the only FPS they can play that allows for six player collabs

>> No.18800195

>>18800163
a few others come to mind but i guess those are on the older side

>> No.18800352

>>18800163
12 players, 6 per side in a full custom game.

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The fucking state of council

>> No.18800403

>>18799476
HOLOCOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Niji EN was a desperate gambit
>Niji's forcibly acquired audience vs Holo's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit NijiEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>Nijibubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Anycolor’s saturation will cause them to graduate
>Niji uses bots
>Kson is honorary Holo
>Ui is honorary Holo
>Most vtubers are Hololive like and Hololive is part of greater vtuber community
>Hololive fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave comments telling their oshii to die
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Nijisanji's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Cover is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Nijisanji is just lucky to have clippers and hours on their side
>Nijisanji ruined the market
>watchalongs are POVs
>Hololive isn't a corporation, it's a family
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Hololive fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Kronii here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Hololive is mainstream, which is more important than Hololive's image
>Nijisanji main channel kneels to Holo main channel
>Niji merch sells out quick only because of quantity
>Nijisnaji is only popular because of fujos
>Cover has standards
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Hololive has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no Holobros here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 Niji merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Council is five Kroniis
>Vox didn't go viral
>less Money is good thing
>High numbers means good content
>Chat interaction isn’t important
>Gacha rolling streams shouldn't count for medals
>on a per event basis
>Leaving SCs on is SC begging
>Hololive shilling makes games successful
>Hololive keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich

>> No.18800435

>>18799838
Still blaming the Niji fanbase. If anything they'd rather have Holostars graduate and join Nijisanji so they could be treated well rather than being chained up in the basement.

>> No.18800437

Kek nijiniggers are triggered

>> No.18800449

>>18799683
Just like BTS fans

>> No.18800480

>>18800397
holy shit Choco and Aki on the rise!

>> No.18800537

>>18800397
>Hakos Bealz +19

GO BAE GO

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>>18800397
>3) Hakui Koyori

>> No.18800618

>>18800546
>34 streams in 20 days
>120 hours
Is that even legal?

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>>18800397

>> No.18800705
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>>18800397
>7) Yukihana Lamy
>30) Mori Calliope

>> No.18800795

>>18800403
kek
>you made this?
>I made this!
Just changing the name and reposting won’t make it good anon

>> No.18800833

>>18793386
Vox and Mysta does nothing for the girls because they have a totally different viewership with totally different timeslots. Horny chinese women arent going to start watching Rosemi or Finana play games in the middle of the day when they are at work/school. Mysta and Vox can't "carry". If NijiEN want a male to carry the girls, they would have to get some male that streams NA times and has a high male viewership. And I dont think that kind of vtuber has any chance of getting high numbers

>> No.18800842

>>18800397
Chloe is the one that impresses me the most. She’s overperforming her hype (or lack thereof)

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>> No.18800862

Now, I wonder what got the digits..
>>18800000

>> No.18800871

>>18800435
I doubt it. I bet Nijis were happy 50 of their members got terminated cause that would mean less competition for them. They wouldn't even acknowledge people from the Academy, doubt they'd care for others not part of their clique.

>> No.18800884

>>18800862
KEK
Numbers discussion gets the get.

>> No.18800897

Migrate when ready
>>18800869
>>18800869
>>18800869

>> No.18800916

>>18800871
>Academy
Damn, I already forgot about them. It's still going?

>> No.18800995

>>18800916
One member apparently disappeared and hasn't delivered his scheduled streams for 3 weeks now. His name starts with 'S' something if you wanna dig it up.

>> No.18801014

>>18800916
last i heard (in this thread) one of the people taking part just completely went dark all of a sudden
no schedule,no posts no info for like a week with no notice

>> No.18801039

>>18800546
She is almost certain to be #1 watched hours for this month, she closed a 200k watch hour gap in the past week of streams.

>> No.18801082

>>18799155
LOL no, that was Finana. Pomu is anal about paying for everything, and goes as far as to import physical copies of her doujins from official stores in Japan.

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