The Japanese Room 201 group seems to be accused of being a Black Company

[Anonymous No.]

Room 201 is a small company managing extremely small Vtuber, with their most subscribed Vtuber being Ishinomaki Tsumuri, otherwise known as TsumuSnail201 having less than 2000 subscribers. The average views for their biggest Vtuber, Tsumuri is only averaging to about 20 viewer per live stream and a few hundred to a few thousand in VOD. It is a failing company. Recently, for some reason, all of Ishinomaki Tsumuri's videos were delisted and accusations against the company have been thrown.
>What happened?
Ishinomaki Tsumuri signed a contract with Room 201 without reading the finer print. And during her work as a Room 201 Vtuber, she has a menhera attack leading to suicide attempt on stream. This was very bad, however, she recovers mentally somewhat after the attempt. It was at that point that Room201 pointed out the finer print in the contract
>What are those?
First, for using the name Room 201 (despite it being an unknown company and Tsumuri is its current biggest Vtuber), every talents that sign the contract has a small clause that said they agreed to pay the company for their "Streaming expertise" and "Streaming technology", it is not a share profit deal, they have to pay the company for working for the company. That is one small clause the talents did not know about.
When Tsumuri attempted suicide, the company has rights to terminate her contract. However, the terms of contract termination are
>Removal of all videos
>Tsumuri has to pay the company all the revenue she received from Youtube since she started making those videos (everything she has made from Youtube) because she violates a term that led to her contract being terminated early (her suicide attempt)
>Plus the expertise fees
Since February 12th, Tsumuri has been radio silence afterward. Some of her fans (like 12 of them) are worried this will just cause another suicidal episode because she has been silent since then. Some fans advise her to lawyer up because the contract seems really fraudulent. However, she definitely can't appear as TsumuSnail anymore because while the other terms on the contracts are in dispute, her ass will be nailed for copyright strike if she uses that image, making sure she can't rally her fans and let them know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
To add, E-companies abusing streamers who don't read contract is one of the reason why Konami of all people started an "E-sport" school that educates would-be future streamer on proper contract procedure when dealing with people who wants to sign you and what exactly constitute "streaming" expertise (while in school, Konami provides learner with usual streaming equipment to get them familiar with it in the future when they start working) . The fact that this is prevalent enough in Japan that Konami of all fucking company start a company to tap into the uneducated Streamer who don't know what contracts are mark is saying something. However I'm pretty sure that school doesn't have a course for V-tuber

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>>18620984
We need more posts like this and not only the usual shitpost.
I mean, I doubt anyone could do anything anyways or care even, but I think it's good that at least a couple of people know shit like this happens before going silent forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Wasn’t this the chuuba that did an endurance stream and some 5ch anon kept spreading hardcore rrats about her in broken English leading to one of the best threads on this board, or did I get my 2views mixed up

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621891
Yes. That Nail removal chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621891
I think so. 5ch bullied her until her first suicide attempt. At which point they stopped because it was too serious. The suicide attempt leads to the current situation as Room 201 contract termination clause turn out to be extremely Black Company. It may lead to another suicide attempt all things considered

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Oh hey it's the one that ripped off her nail live.

[Anonymous No.]

Do your Japanese reps to read your contract and not end up like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621999
Why did 5ch bully her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622178
Old roommate account banter a bit too hard with the chan leading to a legendary final stream. Of course chan culture dictates that people who responded are fair target. Anyway Konami's eSports school for streamer, people who wanted to work in video production that educated people on contract and stuffs was created like 2 years ago due to the market demand. However I can only find a YouTube video on it from 8 months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622350
* https://youtu.be/7XsyvA7-crA

[Anonymous No.]

Bump so this is not lost. This shit is actually serious.

[Anonymous No.]

So what exactly will the outcome be to all this?
Can a 2view even manage to herd her 2 viewers over to a new persona? Will snail be taking legal action or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>mention suicide attempt on stream
>not a single link of the incident
OP is a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

It was a nail removal stream, not a suicide attempt. Unless I'm missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624507
It was just nail pulling. I'm sorry. However after her nail pulling, she started screaming for 10 minutes until management run to her house and call emergency service. She did make a video a few days ago stating Goodbye on Twitcast while crying though

[Anonymous No.]

Hasn't she started streaming again after the nail incident?
Did something happen again, or is OP just reiterating stuff that happened a year ago

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/p6jz00.mp4

Here's the nail pulling incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624854
The contract termination happened a few days ago with the company using the nail incident from back then as reason for her contract termination. She also has to pay the company all her revenue from YouTube for the last 2 years because she didn't understand the vague "the company will receive all profit from when the channel started being monetized until the operation recovers production costs". Of course the contract never states what production costs are. On 12th they dropped all the fees on her stating she owes them two years of all revenue she earned from Youtube plus expertise fees causing her to cry before stating goodbye

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hey, it's nail removal-chan.

>>18624798
>Goodbye on Twitcast
Link? Onegai...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
I don't understand people that don't read contracts

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625757
Everything about Tsumuri was copyright strike and removed however there are a few nicovideo archive by random anon https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40028332

[Anonymous No.]

damn (bump)

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, it's that chuuba who got pumped and dumped by /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626045
Thank you anon. Hope she won't neck herself because of her current situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626045
My mistake it's still up https://twitcasting.tv/tsumusnail_201/movie/720608116

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626297
I remember her having a second twitter account that she made during her recovery period. Is it still up? I forgot the name.

[Anonymous No.]

I’ll lick her nail wound

[Anonymous No.]

i can save her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626679
/vt/ saved her, sort of, until she wasted the chance of being fully saved by going menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
holy fuck i couldn't stomach it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626885
That episode also gives the black company an excuse to terminate her contract and riddle her with debts, even though she has recovered and started streaming more mentally stable recently

[Anonymous No.]

SNAIL LOVE!

[Anonymous No.]

Old outfit > new outfit

You can't change my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626214
She's absolutely going to neck herself because of this. It's shocking that even a black company would insist on imposing these rules on someone who is CLEARLY mentally unwell and shouldn't even be allowed in an anonymous chat room, let alone streaming.
They are murdering her by demanding this payment. Management can't be so blind as to not see that. Sticking to the contract terms despite her condition is the kind of soullessness you expect out of China.
I only hope she consults a lawyer before she jumps off a building.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Holy shit. This needs to be spread everywhere. Superchat this to everyone, post it in fangroups, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18630073
>They are murdering her by demanding this payment. Management can't be so blind as to not see that.
I dunno, people can be pretty blind when they want to be. Or maybe they'll just hit her family with the debt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18630073
What do you think a black company IS, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18630073
Did you forget why some people call them bug people?
They are taught to get rid of their soul

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
Ouch - someone send this girl a hug.
Better send a thousand

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
Holy fuck. This went straight to my dick. What in the everloving fuck is wrong with me, I'm so hard I can't even think.

captcha: SAWTD

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Wtf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18631418
Might I introduce you to /meat/?

[Anonymous No.]

akira and snail collabo when?

[Anonymous No.]

That's fucked up. We need to save her...

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got a link to her second twitter account? I forgot the name

[Anonymous No.]

Snail love, I want to fuck the menhera out of her hag pussy

Also copying link to her last official statement on the sequence of events that lead to her termination

https://twitter.com/tsumuSnail_201/status/1492564341173862404?s=20&t=euLGGnUDae6RzcrEvFwJYQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18631995
too late...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18633891
Anyone know moonrunes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18632071
https://twitter.com/tumunuki2

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634591
that pfp...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18631920
Already a regular when the tranny jannies don’t nuke it, but I’ve never quite gotten over the fact that my fetish for watching women suffer can extend to real life. Makes me feel absolutely terrible.

…I still saved the video, though. God that’s so fucking hot how she screams.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this supposed to be her former manager I wonder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634822
No wonder so many JP chuubas are fucked in the head. Imagine having to put up with a nip manlet 'managing' you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Why do they keep hiring menheras?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
>When Tsumuri attempted suicide, the company has rights to terminate her contract.
Is this the nail pulling? If so that was a long time ago wasn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18636604
The normal ones have real jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got archives? Her streams are actually good JP reps

[Anonymous No.]

damn all of this is sad to hear since this was like the one v-tuber that I cared enough to watch a stream of.
I hope Snail-chan pulls through and I hope the company burns in hell for taking advantage of her

[Anonymous No.]

How do we save her? I'm guessing we need a JP bro reporting this shit to the police or whatever relevant authority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
kek wtf, atleast it wasnt the big toe or one of her fingers lol, that photo at the end was bloody af

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634792
That's genuinely normalization you massive faggot.
>hurr me getting off to the idea of hurting women totally won't carry over
>why am I getting hard from hurting real women?
All gurofags should be permbanned like they used to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18636604
Because you want entertaining, creative people, and that tends to be linked to crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
I can't even will myself to watch that.

[Anonymous No.]

No one’s posted the short version YouTube vid so here it is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gzqWjjSmfSE

[Anonymous No.]

>>18641810
Wait so what's the context here, why is snail crying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18642479
read the entire thread

she got terminated from her contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>18642479
This was a guerrilla stream she made shortly after being told about not only the termination of her channel but the fines (unspecified amount) that would be imposed from “breaking” her contract with room 201.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18642765
>>18642798
Why is it only happening now though? The nail pulling was a few months ago

[Anonymous No.]

Am I retarded or does this sort of shit happen a lot? It seems like any black company can put out an audition flyer and get 50 fucking people, mostly female. I just don't get how there are so many people who want to become vtuebrs even though I watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

We couldn't save her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18643003
No anon, we did save her. She went from a 2view to a hundred view and supah chats unlocked
She decided to traumatize us with that menhera stuff

You either fail as a saviorfag, or you live to learn why they needed saving in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

bump for snail

[Anonymous No.]

Again this isn't the first time chuba didn't read contract. Remember the time the former top 4 biggest Vtuber in Japan didn't read a contract and sold herself to virtual slavery until she completely broke and swore up the internet? This shit is so prevalent that Konami has a school to teach streamer to negotiate a contract in the future lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18642849
No idea for eops this image is the explanation it seems though

[Anonymous No.]

>>18645873
kek is that why shes gone? she doesnt have a 2nd back up different vtuber persona or anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18630073
>Management can't be so blind as to not see that.
The conclusion of the Holocaust is that middle management is literally the most evil force in the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>18648781
Who? Kaguya Luna? She is p-maru now and she is doing better than ever getting millions of views
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLqCmbd6bgcLaBVz3aA-68A

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649396
The conclusion of the holocaust is that a nation fighting to the death on two fronts somehow has the resources to mass murder people by putting them into freezers and then shattering their frozen bodies, building elaborate contraptions that electro shock people to death so hard that even their bones turn to ash and to set up rollercoasters that dump their passengers straight into ovens.
It's unbelievable, but it happened.

[Anonymous No.]

well this is fucked up but with no way to even reach out to her anymore there is not much we can do

can only hope she gets a lawyer before she gets a rope

[Anonymous No.]

>>18648781
She signed up with a company for music but didn't realize that the contract basically means they own her. She basically states in a burner Twitter account that she didn't know signing would mean giving them the right to everything about Kaguya Luna from character image to every merchandise and such. They also force a contractual 9 hours work day on what they want her to work on a a steep fee for her bailing out on the contract. Thankfully she has the money to get out of that contract but the Kaguya Luna character is still owned by the company. This all started because she just wants some company to handle her music but then lost all rights. Read your contract people

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649900
You forgot the soap made from fat, and lampshades from hair. But more seriously, I said Holocaust but you can apply that to pretty much every big "lots of people die" events, commies (Russian and Chinese) were killing their own by way of middle management too. I've heard somewhere that it's very hard to see something when your salary/life depends on not seeing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634591
>last message 8hrs ago
This her? Is she still reachable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649971
Isn't that similar to that thing Taylor Swift had with another record company where they apparently own her old songs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18651000
Yeah but in that case they only own her songs. In Luna case they own her character, songs, merchandises and can force her into a 9 hours work day arrangements

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634591
I was referring to the account she made during her recovery period, but this is a much better find.

This was what I meant:

(2nd twitter account) https://twitter.com/healthytsumuri

(2nd youtube channel)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVUB_iChr6QAtvjJEQDsnMQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18652806 (Me)
I wonder if the company knows about her second channel, the videos are still up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649713
p-maru is funny as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
I must save them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
She should rip out all her nails and send them to the company through the mail. That'll teach them.

[Anonymous No.]

Bumping because I like this chuuni snail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
Can someone put it on litter? catbox doesn't work for me

[Anonymous No.]

I really can't seem to care for snail. I can just tell this woman is unsavable and it would be a waste of time trying.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to pour salt on this dumb snail!

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Tsumuri's screams has a remix.

https://twitter.com/A6W59dOhDcoLeQq/status/1444330116025237507

[Anonymous No.]

My understanding was snail said she didn't sign any contracts. Instead she was being tricked/forced into signing one with all sorts of clearly exploitable clauses by shady circle management with life-ruining fines attached. The circle's leader told her he would kick her out if she didn't sign it, which led to the twitcast and tweets last week. She also claims she was never told she would have to pay for her original model if she left or was kicked out, but they say she is still on the hook for it. They now want her to pay for the model but not have the right to use it again by threatening copyright usage. She is trying to get them to talk over and resolve the disputes in public voice chat sessions, but they are determined to keep any talks behind the scenes. She is clearly in the right to contest everything if none of this was set in stone in a signed agreement. She may never get to use the snail models again since it's likely the artist was at least savvy enough to ensure they retain the rights to its usage, but they sure as fuck can't charge her for using it retroactively if they have no written receipts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18663733
Is that the summary of her twitcast?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Why you guys stick to that woman?
By the way, the following is the current tsumuri thread:
https://maguro.open2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sports8/1645181017/

If you want to discuss with tsumuri fans, come here.

[Anonymous No.]

I've worked with companies that will demand shit like sign on bonuses or whatever back if you leave since the point of those is to entice you to work for them.
I never really heard of a respectable company demanding to pay it back if they fire you though since that can lead to scummy shit like working a worker to death and then firing him to get the money back. Even more disturbing is making her pay back the revenue she earned from day 1 which is actually ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

RIP Snail, you had a bad run but it was fun while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649971
>>18651000
It's actually more of a case of Michael Jackson being fucked over by, you guess it right.... SONY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRFU2SyCCF8

[Anonymous No.]

Tsumuri......

[Anonymous No.]

>>18660498
wtf? why?
kinda funny tho ngl...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18671512
She has a sizable anti group since 2021. It's also a bit ironic considering ever since she left her old identity to join the company, there were jokes that she was tricked by a black company to make fun of her. However it turns out to be a real black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>18671100
I hate the entertainment industry so goddamn much

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634792
Kill yourself before it’s too late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621600
I care anon, its like reading the morning paper, i get to know the current news and shit, without resorting to dramatubers. So please, keep posting these kinds of news

[Anonymous No.]

>>18671670
it really is the definition of soulless

[Anonymous No.]

Never heard of her, still, nobody deserves to be fucked over like that, i hope she manages to get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18672770
she's a Class A Menhera,
she'll get out. Weather or not she'll be alive after is another question

[Anonymous No.]

ALWAYS read the fine print

[Anonymous No.]

Why is she called a snail when her pin is a nautilus? Is this an inside joke I'm not getting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18674748
Her name is Tsumuri. Plus her twitter username is tsumuSnail_201

[Anonymous No.]

>>18671605
What did she do in her old identity to warrant getting dedicated antis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18676319
At first it was because of tranny accusations. I'm not joking. Japs said her voice sounded like a man, which caused accusations of her being a man using a female avatar. Afterwards a small group of trolls trolled her stream but she responded so it drew in more. They started trading banter and she started a list of "types" of people she doesn't like like that e-celeb in /v/ that got harassed of the company

[Anonymous No.]

Any rich anons here?
This is your moment to be a hero and save a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649900

[Anonymous No.]

It was hard to keep up with snail after the nail-pulling.
But I would drop by whenever I could to leave a like. I also liked her new model too, even if the old one was objectively better.
Hate that this happened, I hope she pulls out of this ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>18634591
>>18634741
>>18634822

LOL
are you sure this is not an anti account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18682000
Well, she is banned from using that image and a hefty fine. She is also a menhera. Do the math. You should also see the other images posted on that account including an image of her avatar fighting the management to the death. She is very menhera right now despite the relatively stable, meth taking period where she takes her medicine and stream normally after the nail incident

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
Jesus, it's been years since a video on the internet made me nauseous. Had to mute once she started screaming because of how visceral it sounded

[Anonymous No.]

Petition to label the next Tsumuri thread as s/nail/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18682000
She likes self-abuse

[Anonymous No.]

Hope you don't forget that this is how 5ch sees us snailfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
Why would 5ch see us as muscular American chads when most of /vt/ are ESLs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685748
You think 5ch is smart enough to know the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
And they are a right

That belly, UUOOOOOOOHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

Bakatare hates Polka...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685748
The Japanese always assume that English speaker = American

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685001
HAHA kek

[Anonymous No.]

Tsumuri's 2nd outfit. I honestly hate that both her hands and feet has a different skin tone, and how they're more detailed compared to her face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18649971
That fucking blows. I love Kaguya Luna's design, shame the company fucked her over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18691322
Thats why you shit on the snoy shills in Versen threads whenever you see them. They need to be reminded that they are not welcome in the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625202
wait, the photo in the end was her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18690474
What was the lore behind this anyway? I remember she was going to water a tree as usual then she got hit by lightning

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
They're still mad they lost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18695475
that's literally it, she just reincarnated as chuuni-snail because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
She got saddled with arguably the worst model in vtubing history and they want her to pay them for it...

[Anonymous No.]

bump for snail

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
5ch thinks this is offensive?

Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't contracts like that illegal, even in Japan?
And how that "company" want to enforce those fines. They'll lose in any court instantly.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>18705559
Do you think she can afford to take them to court?

[Anonymous No.]

has anyone figured out how to support the snail?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
Giga based

[Anonymous No.]

>>18712352
Money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
HOLY BASED???

[Anonymous No.]

>>18690474
This looks terrible. This looks like the sort of thing that only happens because the modeler is the nephew of one of the executives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18712352
Represent her pro-bono in a Japanese court.

more like pro boner lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>18725238
I'll do it

[Anonymous No.]

bump for snail

[Anonymous No.]

>>18705559
Why would it be illegal? You willingly signed the papers giving up your rights

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
Someone tell 5ch it's all Indonesians and Filipinos...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18735459
Contracts can be and frequently are disputed and rendered unenforceable. Contracts have limits and regulations which a decent lawyer should be able to argue. They are not a magical binding spell like some people believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18685525
hell yeah

[Anonymous No.]

Hello, my friends, foreign ONASAPO people.
We're gathering in NEOKET (A-50) to discuss with Room 201!
If you want to save your lovely snail, please join the fight!
Here is a current tsumuri thread and twitcasting:
https://maguro.open2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sports8/1645272845/
https://twitcasting.tv/kokachakokacha

[Anonymous No.]

>>18738475
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18738475
i love how autistic nip is

[Anonymous No.]

rip snail

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Are you even sure it's Room 201's problem or just that she signed a contract with an external music company? I'm worried that my actual oshi that works in that company might be subjected to the same deal

[Anonymous No.]

From what I gathered, it's all real, however they specified that the contract only demand her to pay back 40% of the contract since the beginning of her Youtube career. Some jp bros were excited since management dares to come like they have some uncontroversial proof to bury Tsumuri. However all they have is showing that it is exactly as she said, except the management ain't some scary corporate suit but some unprofessional sperg who was trying to scare her at first. The group seems really unprofessional. Someone thought those fee were fine and charge her with it because of the mental damage she does to the group because of her selfharm stunt. However they went overboard and being unprofessional as they are, are now a bit scared since it's blowing up. No matter who wins, all the talents lose. Talk about unprofessionalism

[Anonymous No.]

>>18745506
Also the specific line on the contract seems to be in really fine print. They know what they were doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>18667688
>>18705559
>>18736535
>>18738475
>>18745506

Is there hope for snail?
i really hope so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18745506
So an autist who tried to make a buck off some girls who he knew would never surpass 2view and thought he could use shady contracts nobody would ever know about to profit off of them but is now having second thoughts now that everyone knows what he did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746917
It seems the avatar fee of 100,000 yen is a definite because he's the artist but the contract afterwards is really shady. And the clause was in fine print that was not disclosed at first

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620984
Too long, didnt read, just UUUUOOOOOHHH 'd at the model.

[Anonymous No.]

Tsumuri....

[Anonymous No.]

She can pay 100,000 yen, the problem is the sudden clause and fine added to the contract they wanted to fine her with. Demanding 40% of all revenue from the channel after they fire her is unreasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746917
And it was thanked to the fact that Tsumuri has a sizable group of anti that attracted attention to the issue. If it was any other 2view, they really wouldn't have a platform like her. However since Tsumuri has a dedicated group of anti since her former day, it would gather lots of attention, he didn't seem to have done his homework on who she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747467
It's dirty as well. If it was a revenue sharing contract, they should have already received their share. Any fine or penalties should only be levied against outstanding revenue. You don't get to go back and demand more on already settled transactions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18749919
Also new relevation from the jp bros. The group is unprofessional. New rules and regulations are made on an oral basis. That is to say they don't actually have a contract only mouth to mouth agreement. So sometimes Mr. A may say "I want to add something like this to our agreement" and none of it is on document. Now after they fired her, they have to print out all those oral agreement with some clauses they said she has agreed upon while she said she didn't. That's why when she was fired they tried to force her to sign the contract that represents all the oral agreement and she disagreed. It is like the entire company is run by malicious baby. Oral contract what the fuck? It's extremely shaky. Very unprofessional. Like it was run by true imbecile

[Anonymous No.]

>>18750399
So they have no ground to stand on?
Sugoi, I wonder if when they sure her she could turn it around into getting the model

[Anonymous No.]

>>18750603
Yes, now it is just back to anti joke posting over there because it comes from the mouth of the founder himself, " we have an oral agreement."

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to go bankrupt supporting 2views in the middle of this deluge of major game releases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18738475
That thread seems to have reached bump limit. This seems to be the new one.
https://maguro.open2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sports8/1645374736/

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>tfw your a low tier scam artists trying to scam a literal who but that literal who is actually famous in 5ch and 4ch and you now have the eyes of a huge chunk of neetdom

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>>18625202
>get curious about it
>regret the moment i watch it
why am i like this?

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So, tl:dr, black company or no, it's a clusterfuck of a company.

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>>18620984
>Tsumuri has to pay the company all the revenue she received from Youtube since she started making those videos
Like that will ever hold up in a court of a first world country. Women are so stupid they'd rather commit suicide rather than learn about their rights

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>>18747880
>>18754391
pretty much, they tried to fuck over snail with "oral agreement" stuff and Snail made a scene. They called her bluff not knowing how infamous she really is. Now that it started trending they are trying to back out, and snail is going for the kill

Tatakae Snail! Tatakae!

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Snail fans translate this, posted 2 hours ago.

https://twitter.com/tsumuSnail_201

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>>18755833
>My name is Ishinomaki Tsumuri. I now speak to all the Subjects of Room 201, by way of the Twitter's power. ... The simps in the darknet will trample and rumble all the lands inside Room201. Until the lives there... are eliminated from this world! Unless you correct the mistake in the contract and issue an apology

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>>18756139
Thats pretty metal!


What about this?
https://twitter.com/tsumuSnail_201/status/1495422860193505280

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I wonder if management will sudoku as a result of this. Management hate.

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>>18756313
I do these reps for Snail
>I lost access to my account due to a conflict with Room201. They presented me with a contract that required me to pay revenue for 2 years, full amount of avatar production, etc... I was that told this contract was in effect despite not signing it. If I refuse, I would have to quit Room201 and I didn't want to leave.
>The contract has: "If there is channel revenue, 40% belongs to Room201, billed for 24 months."
>So if there is a revenue of 10,000yen per month, then Room201 gets 10,000*0.4*24. Which totals to 96,000.
>There was more documentation sent 4 days after the contract was presented via Discord which protects against this. However since Discord messages can be modified at will, I don't see it as a valid supplement.
>There is a clause that says if you quit you still have to pay the avatar fees; so it became an option of signing an overcharging contract, or leaving and still having to pay.
>I don't want to leave Room201, and I felt trapped, this is why I cried on stream.

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The biggest irony here is 5ch isn't defending snail, they are going against Room201 because the contract isn't good enough to fuck anyone over. They are basically saying "WTF are you doing? Do it right!"

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>>18757538
Heartbreaking. Hope it sorts itself out as painless as possible

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>>18625202
Hot.

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>>18757815
>They are basically saying "WTF are you doing? Do it right!"
Siding with the company sounds ironic to me.
Hard to tell with the internet be completely irony-poisoned in this timeline.

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>>18620984
>Room 201 is a black company
i believe it

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>>18757815
>they are going against Room201 because the contract isn't good enough to fuck anyone over

this guys really make holobronies look good

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>>18757815
>>18760389
They aren't siding with the company at all, they are taking the opportunity to mock them as a bunch of incompetents for a laugh. It is the best position you can expect someone indifferent of the other party to take, honestly. If 4chan always did this instead of reddit-tier shilling like retards for people who'll leave them the second they get famous enough to, the world would be a better place

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>>18625202
I can't fucking load catbox AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I can fix her.

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>>18764309
>>18763913
I kinda can understand where they're coming from. Suppose there's someone you really hate, then you heard they are getting fucked over by some corpo. Then when you read up on the situation it turns out the corpo is stupid and that someone you hate might make money out of it.

Like say, you heard Omegatranny fucked up, and Connor is gonna BTFO HoloEN. Then you hear Connor is actually retarded and Omega might be promoted for how xe handled the situation

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Archive ragtag moe ?
Anyone?

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>>18768516
Understand, there's no way that said company can change the contract on the fly to trap her better right now. Any and all changes would only take effect for future hires.

This wasn't a "here's how you can fuck this person better, now do it". It was a "you're incompetent at being evil, ffs, here's what you SHOULD have done to begin with". You do'nt need to feel anything at all for the vtuber to do it

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>>18771971
>Understand, there's no way that said company can change the contract on the fly to trap her better right now. Any and all changes would only take effect for future hires.
It won't be legally enforcable, but they might do it if they think she won't contest

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Why did she pull her nails

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>>18778633
To show saviorfags her true form. She started getting an audience ~1k, and she wanted to show them how devoted she is to them.

Ironically downgraded her to 100s of views as people realized she's literally a menhera .

In hindsight, she would be perfect for GFE and replace Rushia if she didn't sound so old...

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Bumping for snail

[Anonymous No.]

Snail should come back as a giant horse conch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExV4b77qfww

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The only edible part of this snail.