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18231196 No.18231196 [Reply] [Original]

>Less vtubers than Nijisanji
>Still manage to have the biggest amount of yabs
What is their secret

>> No.18231232

so a question, has the seventh trumpet ever been blown expect in the haachama/coco situation as well as the mel situation?

>> No.18231549

its cuz no one gives enough of a shit abt njisanji

>> No.18231575

Because nijinigg are irrelevant

>> No.18231592

Tabs are what drives new viewers.

>> No.18231616

>>18231196
Shitty management structure, idol company that's trying to play to both crowds, much more popular than Nijisanji outside of japan causing more eyes on them

>> No.18231681

>>18231549
Yeah. Is about not having yabs or that no one cares.

>> No.18231684

I have no doubt Niji has their fair share of yabs. It's just that no one watches them enough to notice or care.

>> No.18231697

Nijisanji has always been the more chaotic entertainer corpo, every "yabs" would just be swept under the rug and forgotten
Hololive actually has this professional idol corpo image so all their yabs gets more exposure

>> No.18231739

>>18231616
>much more popular than Nijisanji outside of japan causing more eyes on them
This, and also seems like the bar to get on Hololive is ridiculously low. They just hire menheras and people with no streaming personality. I read some people even saying that the GFE is what makes Rushia, and without it she's boring to watch, which is a sentiment I have with Krone. No idea how people can stomach her streams, she's boring and also bad at games, her design is carrying her.

>> No.18231796

>>18231196
*Fewer

>> No.18231822

>>18231575
>coping by scapegoating other company

KEK
what next company you goona use for your copium VShojo ?

>> No.18231837

>>18231196
Another deflection thread... Jesus Deez nut... Ahahahahahhahahhhahhah

>> No.18231892

>>18231822
I don't see a refutation here. You know we're right; Nijinigs are probably rife with drama, but only their sixteen twitter followers would know it.

>> No.18232031

>>18231232
>mel situation
You mean when she was raped or did I miss something?

>> No.18232037

>Hololive
>Professionalism
jej

>> No.18232069

>>18231196
Why are you trying to bring nijisanji into this, fandead.....
All the threads about nijiJP SHOT UP after this "yab", even though they are 'irrelevant'.

>> No.18232084

>>18232031
yeah, that time Hololive itself was pretty threatened since it's a big scandal...so I think the 7th trumpet is viable here

>> No.18232177

>>18231196
That people actually care. You can't have yabs if people don't care enough to have expectations of you.

>> No.18232228

>>18231739
>No idea how people can stomach her streams, she's boring and also bad at games
So like 100% of NijiEN?

>> No.18232232

It's so funny to watch Nijiniggers salivate to the idea that Hololive is in some imaginary trouble while Nijigirls drift into irrelevancy.

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>>18231196
nijiwho?

>> No.18232475

>Even when Hololive is going through some shit /vt/ still obsesses over Nijisanji
You guys really gotta get over /jp/sies being mean to you, that shit was years ago and you deserved it lol

>> No.18232610

>>18231196
Shit tier bait but I'm going to reply because I can't tell if you're just a falseflagger trying to get (You)s or a legitimate retarded NijiEN fan who hasn't watched a single hour of NijiJP. If its the former, here, have a (You), congrats you baited me in. If its the latter, then tell me how the fuck Holo yabs outnumber Niji yabs. Off the top of my head, just the big ones are PakoRaito, Kuzu x Rindou, Roa v.s. Meiro, Yumeoi and Gundou's catfishing enjou etc. and there's tons of smaller shit like that time Hskw suggested people cheat on their loyalty cards for fucking bubble tea and got enjou'd. For fucks sake there's a whole fucking BASEBALL TEAM worth of people who were known for being enjou'd on the regular (Shiina's team at 2020's PowerPro tourney). If you're a NijiEN fan go fucking do your reps, learn Japanese and watch some of the NijiJPs for fucks sake.

>> No.18232671

>>18232084
>Theme centered around "death"
>Become the cause of Hololive's death
Pottery

>> No.18232890

>>18231196
it's their way to stay relevant

>> No.18232980
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>>18232475

>> No.18233095

>>18231196
Ironically because they pander to idol culture; the culture filled with the most mentally deranged of people. Nijisanji on the other hand is just a streamer company.

>> No.18233240

>>18232475
>nijisanji is irrelevant outside of japan
>this drama is nothingburger, it's all nijiniggers stirring shit just like holocaust and aloe
>"rushia" trending outside of japan
h-how does that work

>> No.18233377

>>18231196
Popularity

>> No.18233402

>>18231196
Menhera and autistic women

>> No.18233429

meiroa is literally the biggest yab in the history of vtuber

>> No.18233460

Because drama is hololive's business model

>> No.18233519

>>18233460
That's true to anyone who doesn't watch Hololive, that's for sure.

>> No.18234133

>>18231549
>>18231575
>>18231684
>>18232177
And nijikeks once again get BTFO.
It just keeps happening.

>> No.18234226

>>18231196
Shows how little you know about Nijisanji OP, they had at least a yab a week for months but nobody cares about Nijisanji so the board stays calm

>> No.18234349

>>18234226
>how little you know about Nijisanji OP
no shit, this is just a retarded holofag falseflagging to deflect shit towards Nijisanji, as per usual. >>18232475

>> No.18234655

>>18233095
>>18232890
>>18233402
>>18233460
This. Yagoo's biggest mistake was trying to use idols as a base for Hololive, you end bringing the worst kind of people as your userbase

>> No.18234729

>>18234655
>worst kind of people
Idols don't bring cucks, though?

>> No.18234811

>>18234729
>He doesn't know

>> No.18235091

>>18231549
>no one gives enough of a shit abt njisanji
Lmao, what a blatant lie. In reality, nijisanji lives in every holokek's head rent-free. They start squealing when even the tiniest rrat about nijisanji appears.

>> No.18235151

>>18231196
isn't that the standard strategy to fame? having drama and controversy periodically and getting the drama covered by other so that the brand would stuck on people's head? what's there to confuse about? many people in entertainment industry use this strategy to varying degree of success.

>> No.18235192

>>18231196
Quality>quantity

>> No.18235202

>>18232232
>Nijigirls drift into irrelevancy
>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%
I think you meant hologirls

>> No.18235284

>>18235202
>heres some numbers I made up and mean nothing. suck it, holobronie
You sure showed him

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>>18231196
it's not very deep. the more restrictions you place on your talents the more likely they are to break them, which results in drama.

>> No.18235368

>>18235284
You just proved that you are an ignorant retard. Here is one good tip - if you don't know a shit about something - better not say anything.

>> No.18235406

>>18231196
>He doesn't know about
>Dodgeball offpako
>Patented accent
>forced nonstreaming due to stalkers
>shill stream apologies
>R18 bans
>Blue oni groomer
>actual bully culture feat. KRs
>daterape drugs chuuba
>black company pls. understand
>graduate 50 people Guiness world record

>> No.18235411

>>18235091
This is your brain on nijishit.
Just the other day some nijinigger was making bait threads about Enna mocking anti-coed people and literally not a single person gave a shit. Cope more.

>> No.18235433

Didn't the Korean branch of Niji just literally implode recently?

>> No.18235472

>>18235368
Oh nyo, I'm ignorant about numberfagging. How can I live on???? OH NYO!!!!

>> No.18235534

>>18235411
>Cope more.
Nice thing you just caught yourself on cope and said that to yourself. Good job, holokek.

>> No.18235562

???
baffling thread

>> No.18235573

>>18235472
And yet you replied to that, which makes you even bigger retard.

>> No.18235590

Nijisanji isn't an idol company and nijisanji fans simply aren't deranged idolfags who cry whenever one of them says something controversial

>> No.18235611

You fool, drama is what made Hololive famous, it's a part of their business model.
Back when Niji still got an uphand
>Mel drama
>Holocaust
Myth about to launch in Western market
>Taiwan yab
Luxiem got famous and Niji being competitive af recently
>Mori yab
>Rushia yab
Hololive being smart using every yabs they got to advertise their girls. Rushia yab got them exposed to utaite community in nip, also getting free advertising on Japanese Keemstar Korekore in front of 180k people. Holos PR is no fucking joke.

>> No.18235656

>>18231196
Nijisanji managed to get half of their cast infected with covid because of their greed, anon

>> No.18235695

>>18231196
Say what you will about the whores they employ, cover knows how to keep this vtubing shit interesting and keep their brand on everyone's head

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>>18235573
If mocking numberfag and his made up numbers that mean nothing makes me a retard, then I'm happily one. At least I'm not a numberfag or a cuck.

>> No.18235782

>>18231196
>biggest amount of yabs
>holo
Way to show you have no idea what you're talking about, anon

>> No.18235920

>>18232475

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>>18231196
it helps when you have the kind of staff that will call talents in the middle of the night and have them drive to the office for a meeting only to chit chat about non-work related topics and tell them they can't go for hours at a time. the same staff that will call, stalk and threaten a talent for months after being reported and fired.

>> No.18240181
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18240181

Can someone make a QRD on Mel's situation?

>> No.18240219

>>18231196
Gundou doing Gundou things but in Holo instead of Niji would be a sight to see shitposting wise.

>> No.18240315

https://streamable.com/dkwjgr

>> No.18240343

>>18235433
It’s falling apart yeah, plenty of people are leaving.

>> No.18240344

>>18231196
hololive actually has a standard to uphold so its a different situation, there would be nijiyabs if people gave a shit.

>> No.18240353

>>18240315
this is why I hate nijisanji

>> No.18240406

>>18231196
You just don't hear about most niji yabs because most nijis yabs don't matter, because most nijis don't matter.

>> No.18240420

>>18240181
Her manager wanted to fuck her (understandable all things considered), she said no. Manager decided to schiz out and start emailing her threats and shit from his fucking business email like a genius. Mel eventually got the cops and a lawyer involved when Cover wouldn't do anything, manager go fired and life goes on.

>> No.18240452

>>18240420
>manager go fired
He wasn't fired, only moved to a different position.

>> No.18240454

>>18231196
Controcersy=fame, look at the nigga clip(s)

>> No.18240530

Sometimes controversy really is the best way to get people talking about you. During the SoundCloud era of rap, tons of rappers got into wacky antics on social media, to where that attention would sometimes funnel back to them.
To a point of course, most rappers from that era are already forgotten.

>> No.18240575

>>18231196
The Dodgeball incident did more harm to Nijisanji than even the Coco/China issue did to Hololive. Look it up.

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>>18240420
>Cover wouldn't do anything
Holy fuckin shit. Suddenly I don't feel any remorse for canceling my memberships. Fuck this company.

>> No.18240604

>>18231196
Did none of you retards realize already that Holos clearly push cuckoldry culture because cucks pay more and stay loyal?
Not after many times Rushia explicitly said "boyfriend" and "husband" as two separate people?(for example 3 minutes into this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5SbElRuGVo [Open])
Not after Korone's many cheating sleepover jokes?(like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTxWSKQSWI [Open])
Not after Shion, Marine, Aqua and Okayu roleplayed a cheating story?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWxK5ZzBEt0))
Not after Miko said NTR is her "weakness", which prompted a "cheating vs. cucking" discussion between her and A-chan?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GTiX93EzdU))
Not after Aki said NTR between girls doesn't count?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLN1XExpd8))
Not after Okayu and Towa discuss guys picking up other guys' girls?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4io8gpoDHk))
Not after Noel used a thumbnail(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKNxh9E397M)) from an artist who drew her with queen of spades symbol multiple times and retweeted his works?
Not after IRyS turns Plug & Play into an cuckoldry story?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhgZ9amU-GQ))
Not after Bae's "not yours" babies?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVZx8-3xZQ))
Not after Haachama with a sugar daddy in Gartic Phone?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54g-m8Zqs3Q))
Not after Bae meets a couple in Pokemon, and decides to "destroy their relationship" and make her "never sleep with him again"(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYDdsqS5cI)?
Not after Chloe said she wants to be in an NTR gangbang?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh8x1LJxoNQ))
Not after Noel, who is bad at English, showed that she somehow knows the word "cuckold" and it's meaning perfectly?(clip deleted, it's from a supacha reading after a duolingo stream)
Not after ZA HANDO?
Not after many other obvious signs? How fucking retarded are you?

>> No.18240775

>>18240604
I'm having a hard time figuring out if this post is supposed to be a joke.

>> No.18240832

>>18240604
Based

There is nothing wrong with being a cuckold. Once you accept that your three incher will never satisfy a woman the entire concept of being cucked becomes very exciting.

>> No.18240956

>>18240604
>Israel
alright....

>> No.18241008

Quality over quantity.

>> No.18241023

This didn’t even occur to me until now but that Rushia rrat about replay being purposely enabled makes me wonder more if this was just a move on Covers part to see how the global fan base really feels about males.
And why worry about outside male collabs when you got the pure Stars, where some like Pizzadad are probably purer than actual girls

>> No.18241103

>>18231196
Nijisanji is trigger happy to can everyone who step out of line.

>> No.18241110

>>18240832
You completely lack a soul you fucking freak, you should probably value your life beyond satisfying someone else who is using you, fucking absolute degen, or you're just a woman of course, go kill yourself

>> No.18241111

>>18231196
By being bigger and more popular. + The envy of the industry. The bigger you are the more envious people are around you are to your success. That's why they have the most antis.

>> No.18241121

>>18240604
Why did you have all these saved and ready to go?

>> No.18241131

>>18240575
The infamous Dodgeball incident is arguably the most damaging yab in vtuber history. Imagine thinking Niji doesn't have yabs, lol.

>> No.18241136

>>18240604
NTR is popular in Japan, there's a reason it's so prevalent in doujins.

>> No.18241137

>>18240575
>Dodgeball incident did more harm to Nijisanji than even the Coco/China issue did to Hololive
LMAO what?
I will admit that I'm a nijifag, but that drama barely lasted a week, you cant be serious, right? There are plenty more worse stuff you could have named, why dodgeball KEK

>> No.18241240

>>18240832
But please kill yourself you are less than human, I care less about what women want from me, I'm not so pathetic to think I owe them anything, I want what I want especially from the kind of fucking scum whose only value in life is the brain tingles she gets from getting fucked, you are an instrument for me and an animal. Your death and life has as much meaning as an inanimate object, rather you have negative value, I wouldn't care about destroying an inanimate object but I think its an objective good to cull you and people like you in the most violent painful way possible.

>> No.18241375

>>18241023
Dumbest rrat I've seen. Cover wouldn't play fire with their highest SC earner and top GFE tuber. Not to mention she's an actual menhera and will not be able to handle the backlash.
Maybe Kanata I'd believe being willing to take the risk for the company. Coco raised her well.

>> No.18241379

>>18232031
do people unironically still post this rrat?

>> No.18241380

>Hololive
Started as a corpo to show off their tech, turned into an idol company
>Nijisanji
From the very start it was meant to be a streaming group

Nijisanji had the managment in place, Cover is just figuring things out as they go along.

>> No.18241384

I don't really care for NTR, but I get a kick out of how the mere existence of the concept makes some people so mad.

>> No.18241401

Nijisis just can't accept that they're less irrelevant than hololive. Even if the opposite is true, like in the past, I don't care. I just wan't to watch my favorite streamers which are in hololive. You guys are just pathetic and envious. Do some introspection please.

>> No.18241441

>>18240775
Shit Copypasta. I found it posted several times already since the Rushia yab.

>> No.18241535

>>18240604
>otakmori
you did this on purpose, didn't you?

>> No.18241651

>>18240604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHbRpkNTMFo

>> No.18241682

Its funny, it's like normal parenting vs helicopter "muh based trad" parenting.
Niji is the normal parent, sure a few bad apples, but overall well-adjusted kids that do well.
Holo is the trad parent that denies his child everything and is surprised when in college he finds out he raised a fucking whore.

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>>18240832
Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed
Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed
Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed

>> No.18241763

>>18241379
They're trying to be edgy. Believing Mel was raped by a slant-eyed herbivore would put any anon high on the tard list.

>> No.18241776

>>18241401
>less irrelevant than Hololive
Oh wow, thanks Holobrony.

>> No.18241791

>>18231196
More like more people care, for some reason nijifags are always very active on twitter whenever something in hololive happens.

>> No.18241818

>>18241401
holofag made this post you retard. Actual nijiniggers ITT know that it's wrong
>>18232610
>>18234349
>>18241137

>> No.18241859

>>18231196
>Idol shit

>> No.18241905

>>18241110
>>18241240
>>18241691
It always amazes me how violently angry NTR/cuckold shit makes people. These anons are absolutely malding.

>> No.18242007

because nijisanji is SOVL

>> No.18242226

>>18240832
10/10 bait. You sure made them mad.

>> No.18242279

>>18231196
They pissed off China. I doubt any vtuber yab will ever reach the level of Coco/Taiwan/China.

>> No.18242512

>>18231196
It's because Nijisanji sweeps their yabs under the radar while boosting holo drama.

>> No.18242548

>>18242512
Not like you need to try very hard to hurt chink feelings.

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>>18231232
We are 4th-5th Trumpet at worst. If Rushia were to graduate 6th Trumpet, any worse say Rushia goes and several other holos decide enough is enough then we hit 7th trumpet.

>> No.18242901

>>18242847
Reading this again we probably peaked at 4th trumpet.

>> No.18243048

>>18231196
They walk on a dangerous road of high risk and high rewards

>> No.18244224

>>18241905
It's funnier than loli because there's literally nothing wrong with cuck shit if all parties consent. I don't give a shit about anybody's fetish as long as it's consentual but NTR triggers so many people it's funny is fuck.

>> No.18244328

>>18231196
Building expectations.

>> No.18244706

>>18231196
surviving

>> No.18244897

>>18231196
Nobody give shit about niji, they can make orgy party stream and get away with it,
in the other hand niggers try to cancle a holo just because she's bad at games.
it's about popularity,
you saw celebrity get canceled over things I did on daily basis.

>> No.18245717

>>18242901
4th trumpet is after EN debut, so it's way after the peak.

>> No.18248307

>>18231739
Hi Connor.

>> No.18250571

>>18242847
If Rushia apologizes (which might be inevitable at this point) I can see a lot of people freaking out about it and saying it's a forced apology and that's when it'll reach the fifth

>> No.18250872

>>18250571
Will she apologise for having a boyfriend or apologise for leaning into parasocial relationships?

>> No.18251051

>>18240343
What happened?

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>>18231196
People actually caring about their vtubers enough to look into them.

>> No.18251397

>>18234729
Except it happened anyway.

>> No.18251530

>>18232980
Has this actually ticked to one minute?

>> No.18251746

>>18235534
>Nn-no y-you

Beach yourself

>> No.18252206

>>18231196
Of course they'll have bigger yabs, who the hell cares what nijisanji does.

>> No.18252279

>>18240575
Hoshikawa saying she considered cheating on her boba tea rewards coupon by stamping an extra day caused more controversy.
Ibrahim acting nonchalant about a guest on b-side caused more controversy.
Kaida singing a snippet of his new unit song caused more controversy. All of these things forced them to write an apology on twitter, hell the fucking Hoshikawa thing forced an entire statement on Nijisanji main twitter.

>> No.18252466

>>18235411
>nijien
you do realize nijiENiggers are mostly former or even current holoENiggers right
other than JP clipniggers (if you consider those fans) there's not much of an overlap

>> No.18252857

Simple answer really:
>NijiEN
Who?

>> No.18252923

>>18231196
It is because a yab, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Cover has cultivated a fandom of limpdick losers who throw a fit at anything that might shatter their parasocial illusions. Meanwhile Nijisanji has cultivated an audience of functional human beings who can probably get real sex if they want so they don't rely on having a make believe girlfriend. Thus the holobrony sees a yab behind ever blade of grass while the Nijichads see a bunch of fun streamers

>> No.18253863

>>18252466
Are you unironically retarded? Nijisanji is the antithesis to what Hololive is. Nijisanji is the last place a fan of Hololive would go to and if they did then they were never fans of Hololive to being with.

>> No.18254150

>>18231196
Niji yabs are not that famous, but Jap corpos are a fucking hell in general. Niji actually hired sexual predator and had to fire a guy like within a week.

>> No.18254479

>>18231196
Quality over quantity. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

>> No.18255030

>>18253863
Or that they didn't know much about vtubers outside of Hololive and found something that better suited their tastes.

>> No.18255331

>>18231196
There are literally weekly Nijisanij yabs, it's just that no one outside Japan gives a shit.

>> No.18257105

>>18240420
Nigga you had the timeline all wrong. It was more like:
>Manager made advances towards Mel
>Mel got rightfully creeped out and said no
>Manager went schizo
>Mel complained to higher ups
>Manager got fired
>Schizo still tried to stalk her
It's not "Cover didn't do anything', it's fucking Japan that had no law to punish stalkers unless it results in physical harm or some shit so the extent they could go was firing him. That was why that shit didn't stop even after cops got involved.
>B-But Cover didn't fire him! They just transferred him to another position
Fucking rrat is what that was. The only delay was them waiting for Mel to bring the evidence and once she presented it, the fucker was thrown out into the street without any further question.

>> No.18257942

>>18255030
>and if they did then they were never fans of Hololive to being with.
>Or that they didn't know much about vtubers outside of Hololive and found something that better suited their tastes.
You've literally just rephrased what I said.

>> No.18258149

>>18257942
No it wasn't. They were fans until they became cognizant that there were other options and tried them out. Doesn't mean they hate Hololive, there were many things that kept them watching Hololive. It's just that another corpo or indie appealed to their tastes a lot more. Hell you can see a thread right now that's exploding because an indie is playing PC classics. It doesn't mean they weren't a fan of Hololive, but such vtubers weren't either visible before or they just didn't venture out much from Hololive.

>> No.18258160

>>18231196
Nijisanji auditions for streamers who have an air of professionalism about them while Hololive hires mentally ill women who dont give a shit.

>> No.18258709

>>18252279
The Dodgeball incident is the main reason a lot of the old guard of Nijisanji's fans switched from Niji to Hololive. It happened when Hololive was heavily inclining and were starting to threaten Nijisanji's spot at the top. A lot of their fans heard about the Dodgeball incident and didn't like how the Nijisanji livers appeared to be slacking off and taking it easy when they had the competition breathing down their backs. They wanted to see Niji do something about the biggest competition they had ever faced in the vtubing space. Instead they were taking a Dodgeball vacation.

This is totally separate from the unicorn fans that Nijisanji had. The Dodgeball incident caused a lot of them to leave Nijisanji as well which is why Niji's male livers are so much bigger than the female livers today. A good portion of the fans of the female livers moved to Hololive due to the Dodgeball incident.

The Dodgeball incident is one of the main reasons why Hololive was able to eventually surpass Nijisanji.

>> No.18258940

>>18235406
>>graduate 50 people Guiness world record
congrats to make your point irreleavnt when you mix nijisanji and yumenographia.

>> No.18258994

>>18258160
/thread

>> No.18259065

>>18258709
Nice fanfic. Also nice reality where you act like tons of girls aren't above many male livers. Belmond, Kaida, Genzuki are all more popular than Sasaki, Ange, Lize, Mito, Nui and many other girls, right? Don't just look at the high, look at the other males that have lower viewership

>> No.18259209

>>18259065
I mean you can't really argue that a lot of them didn't leave. Mito used to be a 30k CCV streamer and now she is right around a 10k CCV streamer.

Is 10k CCV a good number? Hell yeah it is and she is still very popular. She did lose a lot of her audience though. The Dodgeball incident is one of the big reasons why since Mito was a big part of that entire event.

>> No.18264172

>anon that read about the dodgeball thing once in /hlg/ is a /#/ poster writing fanfic
makes sense

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