/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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To all normalniggers drive-by posting on this board, the fandead did nothing wrong. Stop bullying their already broken heart. Your actions are exactly why they're that way. Go back to twitter, kikebook, dicksword, or whatever shithole you fuckers came from. I declare fatwa against all normalfags. I wish death to all normalniggers and their kin.

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>>18210402
>watamelon in arabic
Genius

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>>18210460
But of course.

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>>18210402
>fancuck bargaining thread

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Fuck fagdeads, fuck deadbraps and fuck teacucks.

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>>18210402
Holo-jihad when?

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>>18210402
Rushia is about to kill herself thanks to /vt/

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>>18210402
I've driveby posting but not laughing at fandead for any reason other than their name; I'd be mad too if a bitch I gave money weren't loyal frfr

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>>18210599
Absolutely haram.

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Good post.

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its not even written right

it should be واتا ميلون

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>>18210827
That just says waaaataaaamaylon.

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>>18210827
No, it should not fucking be waataameeloon.
Not the OP بس هذا خطي

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>>18210929
doesn't it sound a bit wrong though? but if you want to stylize it like those idiots I guess its right

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>>18210402
أشكرك, my brother

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>>18210402
The fandead did fucking everything wrong. You fucking spergs got a reality check and it's making everyone else that's not retarded laugh their ass off

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>>18211089
Cant read arabic runes without the vowels what does that one say

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>>18211044
you're not entirely wrong but "waatamilon" was about as close as I could get it
التشكيل أقرب صوتا على أللفظ الياباني الصحيح من حرف الألف أو الياء
>>18211154
NTA Ashkurak. I thank you.

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>>18211138
cease your indecent language or I'll throw you atop a 100 storey building in the name of Rushia's fandeads

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>>18211154
It's "ashkuruk", or thank you.
Just picked some up incidentally. Don't know much, but it's been fun.

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>>18210402
watamilun?

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thank you meido for sparing this thread. Please purge all tourists from this board

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>>18211208
I'm this anon >>18211366
thanks for filling in for me. Trying to see how to write it out in english.

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>>18211426
Good luck to you! No prob bob.
إنها لغة صعبة على الأجانب، ومع ذلك تبقى أسهل من الياباني.

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>>18210402
The fandead did one thing wrong, trusting Rushia.

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>>18211834
You can say that again. Appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm an absolute fucking normie but I'll be the fucking first guy to take the taser while you absolute degens throw your cum jar at the police just so I can watch your antics, you guys are treasures

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>>18210402
Watame brings vengeance, brother.

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>>18210664
rushia doesn't even fucking know this place exists, this is entirely a Japan thing. The Western """fandom""" is proving just how fucking astoundingly ignorant they are to attack her own fans over Rushia being shown to be the big bad asshole abusing their trust and hopes for money.

Rushia literally tells her fans not to 'cheat' on her with other vtubers aka, don't give the other girls money, and worst of all constantly constantly pleads her fans trust her that she's purely just for them and solely devoted to them. Goes and stalks her users on twitter and tries to actively corral them and keep them in her orbit, etc. The extent of what she does is way, way over the deep end for what Western chuubas even consider doing and they're blind to it all.

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>>18211943
it's not their fault that they easily trust someone. Vtubers like Rushia went all of her way to appear clingy to her core audience. Everytime she gets shitfaced with booze, she'd rant about getting envious at her friends' marriage reception and how she's feeling that the wall years is slowly creeping her. She then ask her fandeads not to leave her alone as she shows her most vunerable state. If you still think they're at fault here, you're fucking retarded.

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>>18210402

[Anonymous No.]

it's time you review the /vt/ experiment. Dramashits fishing for their next screenshot t to farm internet points is only going to get worse.
Its time to turn into /vtg/ only generals.

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>>18212959
apparently twitterniggers are taking screenshots of posts and spreading them.

weird niggers

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>>18212727
what you said can be avoided when people has the mental strength of a cow

[Anonymous No.]

I just want all of the fucking tourists to leave

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>>18212959
Part of the issue is you'd then just get something like "/rhg/ - Rushia Happening General" and all the tourists would concentrate up in there (if they could find it) and it'd be a fucking meat grinder of actual fans, actual 4chan users vs twitter/reddit faggots. Otherwise the tourists would go pepper random other generals with their hateful ignorance anyway. Then, when would that thread go away? If even like 3 people in the world feel like talking about it and bumping it it would actually last longer in presence than just an organic happening that dissipates.

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>>18213062
but they can't. That's the point. These people feel left out, alone, and mentally vulnerable. They don't have communities that'd act as their support systems. They found that through otakuism, in which you normalniggers will never understand. You fuckers are being intrusive to the spaces you don't even belong. Why not you fuck off and let the gachikoi be?

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>>18213076
This

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>>18213076
Discuss mahjong, maybe they'll leave.

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>https://litter.catbox.moe/oeczl9.mp4

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>>18212721
Is the stuff about stalking donos on twitter and outside of her streams and asking people not to cheat on her true? I've also heard that she would make a big deal about people leaving membership in membership streams and act like it really hurt her. Is that true?

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>>18213076
they've been in my general for a few weeks because of shit wholly unrelated to any holo yab and the oldfags are starting to leave and let themselves be replaced, it's fucking depressing.

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>>18217863
Anon half the generals on this board don't need any tourists to shit them up. picrel. I miss you ahoybros.

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Why the heck is there an increase in arab bros posting lately?

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>>18218292
i'd rather the habitual shitting up with posters who actually know what they're talking about to just autistic screeching from redditors who think telling you to touch grass is an own of any sort.

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>>18218588
>/meat/ is now a mainstay
>arabposters increasing in numbers
Uhhhh bros...

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>>18217714
You tell me

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>>18210402
you, anon, need all the meds.

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>>18218588
inshallah

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>>18219234
tourist

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Spelled perfectly too.
Which murtad did this i wonder

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>>18219034
This is so manipulative that I think it crosses the line of "it is just a vtuber who cares". If any English speaking twitch streamer did this they would probably be destroyed.

I didn't understand why she was such a huge earner. I don't watch Rushia but I've seen enough to understand her yandere persona and I think I understand the appeal and why she was the highest earner. If she just streamed and kept the GFE stuff to Holo stuff only she just playing a yandere char.

Her fans image of her seems to be that she is a beautiful (she really is beautiful woman) weirdo who is possessive, has huge outbursts, and is so crazy that no one could tolerate or understand her so she alone and she is getting older. They also are alone and wouldn't care how crazy she was. Then they decide to leave the memba and get hit with that, no fucking way are they leaving.

I don't know. I just think that level of manipulation by of men at the edges of society is honestly vile.

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>>18210402
Based.

However, we will still have to bully the fandead since otherwise they'll run back to her as soon as she apologises.

However, we bully them for being cucks, not for being mad at Rushia. It's perfectly legitimate to be mad at a lying whore.

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>>18221249
People who do that and defend that are the biggest hypocrites who cry about what everyone else does but has no capacity to see the egregious shit they do because admitting or defending it wouldn't benefit their group or make them look superior.

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>>18221249
she used to host streams where she gets herself shitfaced with alcohol and rant about anything under the sun. That's what her appeal was really, she talks to her audience about problems and hang out. She stopped doing them around the time Hololive blew up in popularity though

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>>18221249
>I just think that level of manipulation by of men at the edges of society is honestly vile.
This.

I find it amazing how normalfags are so eager to side with women who got duped by con artists and marriage swindlers yet when it happens to men it's perfectly fine and they even take the side of fraud who made big bucks by pretending to be in a virtual relationship with them.

To me, this is on the same level as selling cigarettes, selling lootboxes, running gambling websites, etc. which all survive due to the subset of the population that is prone to addictive behaviour. It's simply an exploitative business.

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>>18210402
I'm going to bully them just like I bully the cuckbeats until they learn their lesson.

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>>18221717
I dont understand the psychology of men who do this, are they really so pathetic that they throw their entire sex under the bus so they can get laid? If so they should blow their heads off, so should the women who do this but it's more understandable because they are probably just narcissists who want to look good in their equally narcissistic circle and benefit their own group at the expense of any morality or not being a hypocrite or they are retarded.

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>>18221907
>I dont understand the psychology of men who do this, are they really so pathetic that they throw their entire sex under the bus so they can get laid?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Rushia is a manipulative whore but the fandead are retarded faggots. Saying they're losers isn't an excuse, they could have done what otaku did for decades before VNs and just watch anime and VNs to find their ideal girl instead of choosing to rely on some 3D whore.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll put this in a way that might be familiar to our new visitors.
What you're doing here today is no different from Zoe Quinn going to Wizardchan and bullying them into killing themselves.

This medium isn't for you, and you will never understand.

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>>18222054
Being a retard is less of a problem than being a knowing manipulative parasite.

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>>18222079
If she really did that I'm legitimate unhappy that no one fucking killed that bitch, in this modern world there is no justice.

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>>18218898
>that google translate arabic
kek

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>>18210402
Behead all trespassing normalfags!
Holojihad now!

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I don't understand how people were 'manipulated'. Anyone who can read at a basic level probably understood it's an act, and getting overly invested in that act to the point you forget real people do things outside of an act, is on them.

Marine is not a pirate, Kiara doesn't own a chicken restaurant and Coco didn't cover up the murder of 5 missing kids as part of the Yakuza.

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>>18222079
Why it is always the worst scum and human trash that act as though they have moral superiority and denigrating other people. And why dont people put them in their proper place( in the fucking ground desu)

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>>18222054
All of this is true of course, but some people are susceptible to it. There are people who get attached to 3DPD streamers like Amouranth or Pokimane too - and not without reason, as most of these e-girl streamers also deliberately cultivate these types of fanbases.
In my opinion, blaming these people is not the right thing to do. It's not like they 'chose' to become attached, it happens at a subconscious level.
The morally right thing is to blame the people exploiting these types of personalities rather than blame the people falling for their schemes.

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>>18222278
You're a disingenuous subhuman, literally read the thread faggot, I'm not even going to bother explaining to you why you are wrong because it's a waste on you so I'll just say that.

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>>18221197

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>>18222373
The only thing wasted here was the money your dad spent on the broken condom that lead to your birth. If you couldn't understand the basic reality of the situation of a GFE that's your own fault, and I hope you get a better grip on reality next time.

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>>18222373
Don't bother responding. The "it's just a roleplay"/"it's just a character" bullshit are from the twitter tourists.
They're not going to engage in actual discussion, they're just here for the drama.

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>>18222278
VTubers are a figment of hyperreality blurring the lines between the fictional character and the person behind it. This is emphasised by these particular type of vtuber hosting member streams where they act much more intimately with their viewers, bringing in personal life content, 'hanging out', etc. - given the amount of time vtubers stay in their role, it's to be expected for their personality to blend with the role (which can be easily seen by comparing introductory streams to current content).

Also see >>18222312.

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>>18222278
Here I'll just show you this, if you fail to understand then its obvious you actually have no understanding of the situation beyond the arguments you are parroting from twitter, like I said not going to bother with you filth
>>18219034

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>>18222497
Never spent a dollar on any vtuber, you're still a huge faggot.

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>>18222506
Been here since the board was created pal, can't call everyone as stupid as you a tourist.

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>>18222278
Rushia went all her way to simulate even to her other account. People actually thought she was barely acting at all. If you were following her since the very beginning, you'd understand

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>>18222585
I maybe a faggot but at least I'm not a dumb bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

honestly rushia should just host a year long fandead offline meeting where she gets railed by all her fans that'll make up for it, this goes for all other vtubers too cuz thats what the fans deserve

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>>18222735
>rushia should contract every STD on earth and then die
so true bestie

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>>18222586
If you have then you would understand it's not "just a character" the character is the pretense on the surface but the real personality or something close to it is supposed to shine through which is the point of the avatars, it takes care of the visual so they can be judged and defined just on their merit.

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>>18222735
I think that that is the logical conclusion of vtubers, just a giant harem for one woman that's how its treated by them and those who are fans.

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>>18222633
Rushia and Cover went too far offering engagement rings, I'll concede that. But it's on people at the end of the day getting hurt after fuckers here told people many time to give up on being unicorns and people were too engrossed to listen. If people just read what other people on this board said and considered it, no of those people would have had their feelings hurt, because everyone who wasn't obsessing could see what the reality of the situation was.

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>>18222897
I find it a lot more likely that her fans would get STDs from her than the other way around.

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>>18222943
To a degree yes, it depends on the vtuber. But most Hololive members play up aspects of themselves, or change their personality. Take the lesbian relationships a lot of them tease, they're good friends in real life, but apart from maybe a couple, they aren't in a relationship. Indies are more likely to be using avatars as a mask, but Hololive bas the idol angle a lot of them at into and characters they play into.

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>>18223033
>give up on being unicorns
People don't choose who to become attracted to - it's not a rational choice. Some people simply have that type of personality.
Also, without the aspect of sexual attraction in the subtext you could close down the entirety of Hololive - and most of Nijisanji too.

I would argue that if you watch dumb cartoon girls for hours while NOT wanting to fuck them, you're probably weirder than the people who seriously fall in love with them.

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>>18223153
It's not like that twink has a cock to speak of; it's more likely that they're in a sexless relationship and she's still a virgin.
t. fandead

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>>18222278
Are you illiterate?

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>>18223506
>[bait]
>t. false flagger

FTFY

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>>18223308
I understand aspects, in that I really want to fuck Noel and watch a lot of her content. However the difference of sexual attraction and mental fixation is pretty wide. To some people it's like gambling, I can get that, they can't quit, they sink money in. Which on that comparison, gambling companies shouldn't use bright lights and exciting noises to lure people in, which is why vtubers shouldn't offer GFE. But anyone who read this board for months could easily find people telling them to face the harsh reality of their addictions, if you have so many warning signs and don't read any, at a point that's on you.

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TAKBIR

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>>18222278
Holy jesas this retarded take is the most inane I've seen out of the entire thread. Please kys.

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>>18223308
anime/cartoon/tvfags don't want to fuck all the characters they watch you retard

You're too blinded by your own obsessions

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>>18223804
Get help.

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>>18222278
Based, owned those idolshitters.

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>>18219034
how anyone can fall for this is honestly laughable

I always suspected rushia was a manipulative whore and thus never membered her but all this shit coming out just makes me lol harder

both fandeads and rushia deserve this. Hopefully GFE 'business' of this nature dies out as a result.

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>>18224007
It will never die. Yes it's risky but there's obviously a demand.

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>>18221717
They will fully support getting this guy cancelled and banned off the platform for fraud though. Don't all streamers play a character? Who cares if he's really disabled? You'll never push his wheelchair, right? Didn't he give you a wonderful disabled friend experience (DFE)?
https://kotaku.com/gamer-accused-of-faking-disability-to-attract-donations-472087848

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>>18223631
>which is why vtubers shouldn't offer GFE
People are lonely, so there is a huge demand for that sort of content. And the line between regular content and GFE is rather blurry, so there is no way to police it. Telling smokers that it's bad for them doesn't make them quit. The words of reason are overshadowed by the sensual relief of the next cigarette.

Also, I am not opposed to confronting people with that reality at all.

What bothers me is the double standard of letting the streamers off the hook so easily, painting a picture of innocent women just wanting to create content and obsessive men trying to enforce patriarchal rule, not letting them have boyfriends, etc. - when there is literally nothing preventing them from admitting to having relationships but that they are deliberately hiding that fact from their viewers in order to bait them into these kinds of para-social relationships for monetary gain. What they want is have cake and eat it too. It is immoral to make a business model out of baiting lonely men into virtual relationships and then be surprised that they are upset when it turns out you've been cheating on them all the time.

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>>18223807
>anime/cartoon/tvfags don't want to fuck all the characters they watch
These are storytelling media so they have a bit more going for them than a poorly animated talking face.

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>>18222735
Indeed Anon that would be a great idea

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>>18219034
Inshallah this brat will get my shoe and then my second shoe

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>>18224261
>What is the pre-vtuber youtube streamer
>What are pro-wrestlers

Vtubers are basically the above but with an avatar

[Anonymous No.]

The Vtweeters, normalfags, anitubers, and other assorted trash and degenerates have been allowed to fester long enough. Either we take back our hobby and community, or we turn it into a sea of radioactive cobalt and glass. Ave Maria, Deus Vult!

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>>18224395
>What is the pre-vtuber youtube streamer
Who do you think their top-tier donators are if not the people roped into para-social relationships? And this applies to both men an women.

>What are pro-wrestlers
Pro-Wrestling has the kayfabe in common, but it's ultimately a storytelling medium too.

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>>18224444
The top streamers like pewdiepie are married and they don't hide relationships.

People don't all watch streamers because of sexual desire anon

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>>18224553
>The top streamers like pewdiepie are married and they don't hide relationships.
This was after having built a community already. You are delusional if you deny that a lot of PewDiePie's initial popularity was built on teenage girls watching him because they thought he was cute.

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>>18223804
>Coco didn't cover up the murder of 5 missing kids as part of the Yakuza.

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>>18224445
based and palästinalpilled

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>>18224223
>Telling smokers that it's bad for them doesn't make them quit
It certainly can, depends on how weak they are mentally. If they refuse to listen you can't do much else.
>so there is no way to police it
Yeah and regardless, I don't care for GFE but I don't think all vtubers should have to stop doing it just because some autismos can't tell where the line is or some dumb bitch too things too far. If you want to enjoy that stuff you have to face the fact that it's all fantasy bullshit from the start and never get too emotionally attached, and that she takes cock off stream. The ball is in your court once this is made known to you.

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>>18225241
>It certainly can, depends on how weak they are mentally.
Mental strength is a function of mostly heritable traits. And people who were not born with those are not going to be motivated by your words. In fact, chances are those that already are mentally strong are not going to get addicted in the first place. Liberal ideas of rational men created equal are out of touch with measurable, scientific reality.

>If you want to enjoy that stuff you have to face the fact that it's all fantasy bullshit from the start and never get too emotionally attached
My point is that this only works 'because' people get attached. You're not going to pay thousands of bucks for a woman that is getting fucked by another man. Streamers know that and by deliberately misleading their viewers in order to make money they are part of the problem, so why let them off the hook? If they cultivate that kind of audience, then they shouldn't cry when it blows up around them.

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Is there any similarities between Arabic and Indonesian? Arab Bros are you watching ID?

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>>18224445
this desu, what we see right now is the that the gatekeeping has failed and let in people with absolutely no investment or information about the hobby trying to morally grandstand as "true fans" despite not watching anything else apart from clips.

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>>18224445
Suffer not the normalfag menace.

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>>18225591
If you're such a downie brainlet mutant that you can't stop yourself from flushing your life savings down the toilet on a vtuber without once thinking about how it will affect you long term or hell even short term, then you probably shouldn't be on the internet. Why should other people have to suffer or miss out on things they like because of the lowest common denominator? You don't have to be a reckless whale to watch that sort of stuff. I'm not even talking about Rushia specifically.

[Anonymous No.]

social darwinists should neck themselves. You will never be a soulless mogul like Bill Gates or George Soros. Stop larping as one, poorfag

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t. assblasted simp

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>>18224445
Based as fuck. By shitpost, bullying, and rrats, the whore, the normie, and the cuck alike are cleansed of their sin of existence. So has it been for five years, so shall it be until the last chuuba graduates. I'd rather burn it all to see these fags out than let it flourish with them here.

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>>18226159
Vtubers are inherently a drama magnet normalfag stain on otaku culture, though. Nothing will change that.

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>>18225992
>then you probably shouldn't be on the internet
What are you going to do about it? If you live in a liberal society you'll have a hard time banning people from the internet due to their personality profile.

>Why should other people have to suffer or miss out on things they like because of the lowest common denominator?
Again: this is not a matter of people providing regular content which a tiny fraction of mentally ill people misunderstands, it's a matter of the entire business model being tailored around catering to the mentally ill and cultivating their delusions.

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>>18226159
Agreed, fellow dad. We will not allow these whores to win, period.

>>18226107
Discord nigger.

>>18226054
Normalfag trying and failing to fit in.

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>>18226314
Im talking about people like this retard >>18225992

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>>18226314
>uuuhhh discord
Vtumors deserve this, and this won't be the end of it. Your ethots will continue to cuck you offstream.

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>>18226293
You don't solve everything by banning people, their handlers should probably be monitoring their internet usage since they're that disabled.
>Again: this is not a matter of people providing regular content which a tiny fraction of mentally ill people misunderstands
Do you think most of their viewers and donators are that crazy/braindead.

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>>18226404
Truth hurts eh cuck?

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>>18226620
>You don't solve everything by banning people, their handlers should probably be monitoring their internet usage since they're that disabled.
A lot of these people are obviously well capable of making enough money to pay for all these superchats, so they clearly don't fit a conventional disability definition.

>Do you think most of their viewers and donators are that crazy/braindead.
No, it's a pareto distribution. But the business model rests on the donating few.

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>>18219034
Fuck that's disgusting. Did she send it to an individual or was it a mem community post? I never bought membership to anyone.

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>>18226716
>A lot of these people are obviously well capable of making enough money to pay for all these superchats, so they clearly don't fit a conventional disability definition.
And if they are capable of making those decisions, they are capable of treating their hobby rationally, they simply don't listen and end up learning the hard way by getting burned. In the end, all you can do is warn them.

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>>18210402
kek what a crying cuck KWACC

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>>18226892
>And if they are capable of making those decisions, they are capable of treating their hobby rationally
That's a non-sequitur. You can be rational about one thing but completely irrational about another thing. It's backed by empirical data. Why do you think smoking or any form of addiction is a thing? People can be well capable of making money to pay for their addiction but at the same time lack the ability to quit.

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>>18226948
Plenty of people can get addicted and quit on their own, or accept help, I've seen it firsthand. For the most part, they think they can't quit but lack the willpower. Likewise you can have delusions and snap out of them, I don't buy the idea that there is literally nothing the poor unicorns can do about their insane obsession and they have absolutely no agency of their own.

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>>18219034
Holy shit, I knew she was a manipulative bitch but I wanted to hold onto the hope that she would have some sort of fucking human decency and either stay low until this blows over or own up to it before resorting to victim play.

Actual scum

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>>18227152
>Plenty of people can get addicted and quit on their own, or accept help
And plenty of people can't. Not to mention that a lot of people first need to get seriously burned before even considering getting help.

>For the most part, they think they can't quit but lack the willpower.
Again: what is "willpower"? Pretty much any personality trait is at least .5 heritable. Some people are prone to developing addictions - others are not. I'm not prone to developing addictions, it's not part of my DNA. It has nothing to do with having stronger will than others. Polygenic scoring spearheaded by the work of Robert Plomin will, within the next 5 - 10 years, put an end to these liberal delusions.

But the root of this is a different debate that is only tangentially related. What you should be able to accept based on empiric evidence is that some people are susceptible to form para-social relationships and eager to spend all their money on them. Some might wake up from this at some point, but others won't, and for those that wake up, others will come in to replace them. Men are lonely in liberal, capitalist societies and this type of vtubing is a scheme to part them from their money. So even if you hold the opinion that each of these people that are currently getting milked could snap out of it (or be snapped out of it with a lot of effort), it should be fairly obvious that the problem is not just the individuals getting burned but the entire machinery that is built for the very purpose of burning them.

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>>18226443
Discord Nigger.

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>>18227564
>I'm not prone to developing addictions, it's not part of my DNA
If you had a lapse in judgement and decided to do heroin or meth, I don't think you'd be saying this. People make stupid ass decisions for all sorts of reasons, not all of it can be explained solely by genetics.

>within the next 5 - 10 years, put an end to these liberal delusions.
We'll see, understand that it's difficult for me to believe this when I've seen people who were at the absolute brink when everything seemed hopeless rebound and sort things out.

Just so you know I'm not saying idol agencies or vtubers or whatever should use any means possible to extract money from fools and nutcases, I just think it's possible to have some middle ground where people who aren't delusional about it can enjoy it, and certainly part of the blame is on said fools for refusing to acknowledge reality. The world shouldn't have to be one giant padded room with everyone forced into straitjackets because one psycho might have an autism spasm.

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>>18228201
I'll slide into your tuber discord and send you a spicy DM after you take my hook out of your mouth.

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>>18228310
>If you had a lapse in judgement and decided to do heroin or meth, I don't think you'd be saying this.
Again: I don't have the personality that is prone to developing addiction. I could be physically hooked for a while but I would not be mentally hooked. Also, I would not make a 'lapse of judgement' and take heroine or meth by accident.

>People make stupid ass decisions for all sorts of reasons, not all of it can be explained solely by genetics.
Some of it is random chance, but the majority of tendencies that you can perceive in data can be explained by genetics as the strongest factor involved. But as I said: this is a different discussion. Polygenic scoring will allow us to pinpoint these things accurately within the near future - we can have that discussion again then. You're free to look it up yourself and get an idea of the possibilities.

>I just think it's possible to have some middle ground where people who aren't delusional about it can enjoy it, and certainly part of the blame is on said fools for refusing to acknowledge reality.
The entire business model rests on the fools. It's like selling lootboxes which also wouldn't work if you hadn't whales keeping the business afloat. People who are only watching, who don't feel the need to get their voice heard, superchat to reinforce that emotional connection they believe to be there, are not the ones financing the existence of these vtubers.

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>>18210402
>>18210460
thats not how its written
واتاملون
t.arab

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>>18228388
Discord Nigger.

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>>18210402
ishallah, brother

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>>18228846
>I could be physically hooked for a while but I would not be mentally hooked
How do you know? Have you done meth?
>I would not make a 'lapse of judgement'
Maybe you weren't raised in a broken home and surrounded by bad influences for most of your life. Nobody decides to smoke crack by accident lmao
>within the near future - we can have that discussion again then.
Sure, but I hope your focus isn't so narrow that you discard any additional evidence or reasoning that could oppose these findings. How many times have I seen people basing their views on a single random study partially related to whatever they're arguing about...

>The entire business model rests on the fools. It's like selling lootboxes which also wouldn't work if you hadn't whales keeping the business afloat. People who are only watching, who don't feel the need to get their voice heard, superchat to reinforce that emotional connection they believe to be there, are not the ones financing the existence of these vtubers.
At this point they've made boatloads of cash from sponsorships alone.

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>>18229418
>he's still replying
If you post it again I'll go back to discord for sure.

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>>18228388
You must be 18 before posting on this website

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>>18229799
Are ya fitting in yet, vteen?

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>>18229519
>How do you know? Have you done meth?
Because I don't have the genes for it. I could take meth and not become hooked. I could be physically hooked for a while but not mentally hooked.

>Maybe you weren't raised in a broken home and surrounded by bad influences for most of your life. Nobody decides to smoke crack by accident lmao
Twin and adoption studies have shown that the circumstances you were raised in make hardly any difference. They might make a difference in the sense of extreme physical neglect, e.g. not being fed and therefore having stunted growth or something, but at the psychological level they matter less than people commonly believe. The reason why people who were raised in broken homes often turn out broken too is because they inherited the same genes that were responsible for the broken homes they were raised in.

>your focus isn't so narrow that you discard any additional evidence or reasoning that could oppose these findings
I can understand the liberal impetus of wanting to dismiss the genetic side of things. It is a nice idea that people were malleable and that you could form them way you want. The idea that fate was determined at birth seems medieval to people, related to concepts such as nobility, where certain traits run in the blood. But environment comes with its own issues, e.g. up to the 70s it was believed that schizophrenia was caused by mothers neglecting their children - which we now know is almost exclusively caused by genetics. Countless women were falsely blamed for not having raised their children properly. Or adoptive parents might end up blaming themselves when the children they adopted from broken homes, often born to addicts, also end up drug addicts, when it's actually a property that they inherited and that they (had they known about) could have prevented by being extra cautious.

>At this point they've made boatloads of cash from sponsorships alone.
Yes, but the sponsors are interested in having large audiences. Some vtubers can cultivate large audiences from singing, gaming, etc. but others heavily rely on para-social bonding.

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>>18229872
dumb frogposter

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>>18226443
Discord tranny go away, we don't need
you and you're gay
Child abused by lesbo chicks, now
you're proud of sucking dicks
Screaming racist on the net, foaming at the (you)s you'll get
The evil nazis have been slain, oh no!
Your axe wound made a stain
Dilate, dilate, discord tranny, scratch
the infected jew-made fanny
Cope and seethe is what you say, yet
your fake cunt's turning gray
Your rope necklace makes a twirl, you
will never be a girl
Your weight sadly snaps the noose,
leaving your neck with a bruise

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>>18210402
HOLY FUCKING BASED OP

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>>18229973
>>18230042
Dance niggers dance.

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>>18222278
If that's just an act, then why the fuck do corps try so hard to hide the existence of a talant behind them? Don't give me this privecy crap, there're myriads of famous people who live just fine without hiding their real faces or their home addresses. If that's just a character, a role, an act then why do corps not introduce a character alongside a VA who is going to play them, just like any other media does? It's done because it would go against the illusion that the character is real and that you have a "chance" to be together with them. Lack of illusion doesn't incentivise fools to waste their money in attempt to make their existence known to a character nearly enough to rake the amounts of money they do otheriwise.

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>>18210402
It's fancuck fault. You know they will go back to SC her even more when she will manipulate them on next stream how it was misunderstanding and that she will always love them ect.

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>>18229973
shut the fuck up tourist nigger

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>>18230303
Frogs dont belong on /vt/ you fucking retard

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>>18229908
>Because I don't have the genes for it. I could take meth and not become hooked. I could be physically hooked for a while but not mentally hooked.
So you haven't done meth, but you think you'd handle it like a truaryan and could easily quit if you wanted to? But you aren't going to prove it. Sorry, but it sounds like bullshit to me friend.

People have had misconceptions about pretty much everything from the beginning of human history. You seem very narrowly focused on genetic determinism to a somewhat extreme degree, and you could very well be misinformed or wrong about it just as people were wrong about diseases being caused by curses or witchcraft. Irrationality can absolutely be cultivated by external factors, do you think if someone was raised all their life to believe that the moon is made of cheese do you think their genetics would prevent them from ever questioning it or accepting evidence to the contrary?

>Yes, but the sponsors are interested in having large audiences. Some vtubers can cultivate large audiences from singing, gaming, etc. but others heavily rely on para-social bonding.
I mean, you said yourself that the whales are not the majority of this wide audience.

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>>18218588
Convert to islam, brother

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>>18230384
Cry moar vtubelet.

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>>18213076
Nah, I like watching dumpsterfires. Even more if the people I know are into it.

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>>18210402
Rushia...

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that's a lot of [deleted] posts

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>>18218588
inshaallah, kuffar will convert to islam

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>>18210402
I don't bully fandeads.
I bully the guys who went so hard into a schizophrenic fake relationship that they are seething as much as the menhera character they oh love so much.
They don't realize it's always been this way, and pretty much all vtubers are the same, even though time and time again it's proven, and when the time of "truth" comes, they blame anyone but themselves.
They will never love (You), you walking talking ATM.

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>>18235486
>I bully the guys who went so hard into a schizophrenic fake relationship that they are seething as much as the menhera character they oh love so much.
so fandeads? fucking retard nigger tourist

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>>18227366
This is from months ago, anon. This isn't in response to the yab.

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Inshallah brother
/vt/ will be put under our caliphate's rule
Death to troonwiter
Death to Plebbit
Death to Dicksword
And most of all
Death to all normalfaggots

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>>18236210
Kiara, no one invited you, go back to streaming.

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>>18226826
mem community post.

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>>18221907
I don't understand why you're like this, but you're of course entitled to your opinion. Lonely men is a massive societal problem with real consequences for the world. Some of these vtubers have found a way to capitalize on that by learning how to press their buttons in order to take their money. It's like they learned how to hack an ATM. It's reprehensible. The men are of course pathetic too, but they unironically are the victims here. Rushia has made millions of dollars and is literally set for life, while the lives of her viewers are getting worse and worse.

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>>18236210
You may be KFP, but all are welcome in the removal of the Normalfag menace!

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i hate americans

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>>18236784
I never disagreed with you I wasnt talking about the fandeads I'm talking about the YASS KWEEN non humans who want women to have no agency or consequences.

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>>18239195
I seriously do too living as an American it's just our kind who is especially fucking retarded and I wish I wasnt one of them, I dont want to be a jap either I just dont want to be a degenerate hedonist retard like most Americans

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>>18210599
>lumping in teamates with deadbraps and fandead
Wow rude
Amegeddon proved she’s single anyway

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>>18235580
>implying it's only fandeads
Anon... I don't know how to tell you this...

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>>18239195
Commodor Perry ruined the world

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>>18210402
wtf is this thread

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>>18243570
a Standard of how is a good /vt/ thread should looks like.

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>>18210599
wallahi

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>>18243570
made to keep normalfags away

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>>18243570
Peak watamelon.

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inshallah brother we will avenge the fandead

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>>18222079
Very apt

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>>18219034
she deserves everything

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never thought I'd fight side by side with a sandnigger...

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>>18239195
of course, they invented modern social problems, sjw, lgbtq, the left, the right, everything you hate, comes from them

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>>18239195
I pray for the day yellowstone erupts and wipes America clean.

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>>18213076
Use there stay here as an opportunity to educate them.

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>>18239195
who doesn't?

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>>18210402
>Watamilun

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>>18252488
oreeeeeeeeeah!

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>>18250027
watamelonigger*

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>>18254787
>>18254660
>>18252488
>>18247231
suck my big cock

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>>18256830
Not even ants would call your cock big.

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I hate how the normalfag's argument is just "lmao just don't get attached" like it's that easy for the mentally ill. Lmao just don't get addicted to alcohol, gacha, gambling, drugs, porn, or lootboxes. The preyed on is always at fault, never the predator

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>>18210402
What the fuck is dicksword

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>>18210402
Based

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>>18259416
get out

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>>18210402
What is dicksword

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>>18261706
derogatory term for discord.

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All Tourists need to be publicly beheaded.

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>>18219034

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>>18210402
Just stop, OP. It's over.

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>>18210402

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>>18243570
a fucking great thread.
fuck normalfags.

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>>18269103
hot

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Learn your place, cuckdeads.

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>>18224445
which song is this?

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>>18215372
I'd do that but it reminds me of sio and I get sad

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>>18219034
People seem to forget that parasocial feelings goes both ways, it's not impossible to think that rushia has parasocial feelings towards her fandeads. Many other chuubas has discussed this where they explain they have to keep reminding themselves not to get too attached.

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rushia is muslim, she's using this yab to snag femboy into marriage, because sex before marriage is absolutely haram, only with marriage can it be halal, then they can finally go to sharia hotel together