/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Taking advantage of mentally ill gachikois should be illegal. GFE vtubers are monsters.
It is extremely evil and immoral.
Gachikoi and Unicorns deserve to be saved.

[Anonymous No.]

Cope cuck

[Anonymous No.]

Brother this is the awakening, we shall spend our wealth for them but only for ourselves!!! We need to grin and the bitches will be looking for us to plow

[Anonymous No.]

I think if we're going to start criminalizing immoral behavior that there are far bigger fish to fry before we tackle GFE streamers milking disposable income from people

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143205
i dont think you know what a cuck is, unicorns are literaly people afraid of being cucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143283
Only after some really fucked accident occurs like come mass suicide because their oshi told them to. We only make laws after shit hits the fan.

[Anonymous No.]

saved from what, just let me delude myself, i'll just move on to someone else who makes it believable until she fucks up, and i'll move on again to another one

[Anonymous No.]

Being mentally ill gachikois should be illegal. Gachikois are monsters.
It is extremely evil and immoral.
Gachikoi and Unicorns deserve to suffer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>being a gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

Catering to gachikois is literally like marketing exploiting human nature.
Both are atrocity and happiness should be mandatory and rationed by AI

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
Well I think mental illness is nonsense and even people like 'actual' schizophrenics are just making it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143838
I did this until I run out of people. I miss the whole delusional experience since it makes my day a little more tolerable but you only need a quick search to see that all of them are full of shit. I'm currently looking for a fix for this situation but most people in here are casuals that don't get the whole parasocial thing so I get no luck in discussing this in a more serious way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
Its easy, Gachikois just need to wake up to the fact that the high amount of money they spend could be used to plow the girl instead. You can hire someone for a whole date that looks exactly like your oshi for cheaper

[Anonymous No.]

I would actually respect it if they were actually genuine about it, but that is only the case for a certain few.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144186
show me the girl with a real tail anon, I need it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144186
I don't where you live but I can't hire a prostitute that will give it the GFE for the price of a weekly aka for the whole day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144247
tailbuttplugs/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>Gachikoi and Unicorns deserve to be saved.
But they don't want to be. Already they are coping and forgiving her.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah fucking right. You wouldn't be saying this shit if your oshi was the one who has as much gachis as these GFE chuubas have

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>being a gachikoi
>being a unicorn
>being mentally ill
>willfuly become a cuck
Couldn't
Be
Me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144460
I might be retarded, but isn't the cucking part wrong if their fanbase isn't okay with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
They should get a grip on reality first, then we can talk about saving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
Gachikois deserve to get the rope. They're the ones who even made GFE a thing in the first place, it would never even exist without them. In fact, it doesn't even exist at all, it's all just delusions in their minds that they impose on people completely unrelated to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144460
Don't use my gremlin oshi to shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>Gachikoi and Unicorns deserve to be saved.
But who?
Who will save them? Is there anyone you can actually trust at this point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144600
It's a cruel and lonely world we live in...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143909
>life is shit, often for reasons beyond your control
>become emotionally dependent on a streamer who is actively fostering parasocial relationships because your life is dogshit
>she turns out to be a lying cunt and somehow the large number of lonely guys at fault
God I hate women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
I want to save them...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
The weak are to be exploited. That's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
Gachikois are pathetic, GFE tubers are exploitative monsters, and they deserve each other.

[Anonymous No.]

this whole thing made me remember the /jp/ mansion kek, that could've saved some our gachikoi friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144690
If you become emotionally attached to the actress, that is on you. She was selling you a fantasy while playing a character.

If anything, the ones who did anything wrong here are the parents of the retards letting their idiot kids have access to the internet before they formed 3 neural connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144565
Gachikois/unicorns by default cuck themselves by believing on a person who uses an anime avatar to hide their faces.
Then they willfuly believed on the roleplay for years, then got a taste of reality yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144850
>emotionally attached to the actress
you literally have autism, your opinion on other's people brains are useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>Gachikoi and Unicorns deserve to be saved.
SHIROU THERE ARE TOO MANY
YOU CANT

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144912
Are you an idiot? The reason this blew up is because people cannot make the distinction between the actress and the character. Why else would they get mad that the actress got a message from her boyfriend? It should have only ruined the immersion for a second, not send the masses into a frenzy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144984
'tism

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144119
Amano Nene, give her a chance. Best GFE you'll find

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144846
now that's a blast from the past

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145022
Anon.... I am sorry. Do your reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144984
Why is my favorite character suddenly getting messages live on stream from another actor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144984
You're the idiot here. Rushia went to great lengths to convince everyone that it wasn't just an act and to trust her. She kept the same act up on her personal account. You don't get to do this "oh she was just an actress!!" bullshit to defend her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144892
That does not make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145105
Again, the immersion was ruined for a second.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145090
don't do me like this her streams keep me going through the week.....

[Anonymous No.]

If pretending your dog is sick to crowdfund his cure is illegal then pretending you don't have a BF to crowdfund your life should also be illegal

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145121
No, the actress went to great lengths to convince the audience that her character was exactly what they wanted. Only an undiscerning idiot would think that an actual human being would want to be in love with a random crowd over the internet. I am amazed so many people do not understand this, it is not very hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144999
Whatever helps you cope with being wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145169
I've been there. Went to the smaller 2views and /here/ ones after that and it was same. Even worse cause the leaks are way more personal. I'm getting crazy trying to replace the ones that really made me feel welcomed and safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145230
This just sounds like a whole lot of cope, did the ring arrive yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144999
whatever helps you cope with being wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144690
It is the trial of each and every menhera to own their suffering and control it or become incompatible with the world.
Wilfully indulging in delusions and fantasies as your source of happiness instead of building a base of self worth that allows you to more rationally weigh up your values and decisions is how you end up being orca.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144039
Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145283
No, I do not spend money on youtubers. I do like to poke fun at idiots over the internet tho. How much money did you superchat to Rushia thinking her actress would fuck you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144984
>>18145163
>for a second.
only if you have the memory recall of a seagull

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145230
The actress said she's not an actress, retard. I never wanted or expected her to do any of the bullshit she promised but witnessed people fooled by her daily regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144460
who is the vtuber in the image?kapm8

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145169
Dox says otherwise, its bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145338
Aye definitely, thinking has done me no benefits.
You still have the autism though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>self induced delusions only surpassed by(or equal to) trannies thinking they'll be women because they cut off their dicks
>P...PLEASE FEEL SORRY FOR THEM!
No sympathy from me whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145363
I have not given her or any GFE streamer a cent because i find them extremely dishonest, if they were actually as mentally ill as the audience they cultivated i would respect it somewhat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145418
Are you sure about this or are you just denialfagging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145387
Did she also tell you on stream she would totally suck your cock because you are the most handsomest and manliest man in all the land?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144690
That's what you get for relying on others instead of trying to become self sufficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144701
You can save these girls anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145479
I don't give a shit about Nene and hate GFE, but I've seen the dox /here/ and came to that conclusion. Take it as you will

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145474
I also dislike GFE streamers. I find them distasteful. But only a child or a man with the mentality of a child would actually think the woman behind the chuuba is not playing a character on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145273
It is better if you assume a nijifan mindset and not purse GFE shit. Watch cool people for entertainment rather, regardless of bf/gf.

Otherwise I can only recommend fallenshadow for GFE. She's a diagnosed schizo NEET. Most she had was a internet boyfriend for a while, during which she didnt do any GFE. She only started doing it after they broke up. And she has a clear stance on hating that kind of two-facedness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144460
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MUTSUKI SEGGS

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145581
Then she should stick to her character then, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145505
Not him but that's definitely what my oshi thinks when I say hello

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145589
>she has a clear stance on hating that kind of two-facedness.
That's what they all say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
This unironically
No one should defend the way Rushia manipulated all the fandead into making her a superchat queen while she was fucking some twink the entire time.
This incident has actually woken me up a bit. My oshi does the GFE thing sometimes and I almost started falling for it. But thanks to Rushia being a whore I've come to my senses and realized it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
women bad, always were
the more you let them get away with, the more they'll try to get away with, unbroken rule since dawn of civilization
>>18143283
show green hag puss

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145589
>And she has a clear stance on hating that kind of two-facedness
THEY'RE PLAYING CHARACTERS TO APPEAL TO YOU, YOU DUMB FUCKING RETARD
HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145505
Don't know don't care. Why do you keep defending her when you clearly hate her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143457
Yeah and they got cucked anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145589
>Watch cool people for entertainment rather
If only they hired a single EN vtuber that was entertaining

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145708
Normally I'd agree, but she's a literal, diagnosed broken schizo. If you really REALLY needed to get into GFE, which I wouldn't recommend, that one is the safest bet if people still want to go down that path.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145612
No one ever has a response to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145708
No... I believe her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145612
She should but if we keep this distinction in mind mistakes should result simply in chat getting slightly annoyed like when a plothole is detected in a story or when immersion is shaky in a game. Its a fiction after all. They should not get angry as if they caught their wives sucking off the milkman

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145817
Well apparently these girls are better at improv than the best comedians in the world, a few second slip up is nothing compared to the down time between sketches they do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144460
Go back to /gig/ mustukisex

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145720
Im simply saying that a lot of the anger seems to be misplaced. It was all a fantasy anyway, nobody lost anything aside from an illusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145912
that would work if GFE vtubers were professional and had some kind of disclaimer that it's all kayfabe, or if GFE watcher culture was more sane and it were an implicit assumption on the culture (wrestling isnt real but lets have fun pretending).
But due to the inherent brokenness of the average GFE watcher, that's gonna be difficult unless the Rushia event wakes people up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145817
The response is very easy actually. It is not the same, ethically speaking, for an actor to break the act for a moment and for a wife to cheat. These are not the same, the problem is that many people did not detect the act even tho it was extremely obvious. To them I say, get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145988
It's not misplaced. She made her name and fortune doing exactly this, claiming she is genuine and not just acting. She BEGGED everyone to believe her whenever she saw people doubt her sincerity.
To me it was always unbelievable given her past with all these streamer guys but somehow some people believed her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145912
Following kayfabe, that's exactly what happened. Rushia account, Rushia lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145581
Anon.... Gfe viewers ARE manchildren...

[Anonymous No.]

I came here expecting Shirouposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
Your ideals will ruin you, anon.
You can't save everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146041
You are right that there is a level of deception to GFE vtubers but it is only deception if the viewer is functionally mentally retarded. It does not seem very hard to me to tell that this massively subscribed entertainer is not literally in love with every single individual viewer.
Honestly, I hope this incident wakes people up like you said but it is sad that they need to be woken up at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>never buy merch
>never supachat
>never member
>never subscribe
>watch clips only
>with adbocker
Cucked? Couldn't be me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146128
I mean, of course she is going to beg people to believe she is committed to the role. If not it would be like an actor admitting on stage that the act is not for real, the ACT is for real but the key distinction here is actor and act. Of course Rushia (act) is going to beg people to believe her and Mii-chan (actor) is not going to contradict her on fear of dispelling the illusion of the act. But this seems very clear to me, maybe I just cannot empathize with the unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146398
She did it on the account where she is not playing a green haired anime girl, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144565
>>18144892
if you wanna fuck with definitions, cuck is someone who enjoys it, it's just that the word has been severely malformed over the years of imageboard shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146398
>with the unicorns
What a shame, you were doing so well but then shot yourself in the foot by using a buzzword that has nothing to do with this conversation

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146618
I thought it was the de facto term for people obssesed with vtubers who believe whatever they tell them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146476
Did she do it on

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
The truth of the matter is, being a Unicorn is a self inflicted chance of getting cucked. Can't get cucked if you don't think of them as yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146476
Exactly, that's why her fans has been silent about the fact even though it's a well known that mikeneko has a BF.
It's only became a problem now because it come up on the green haired anime girl's stream.

[Anonymous No.]

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-qvuB2clYw

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146476
Did she do it on the account where she is playing a white-haired anime girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
GFE is a bullshit act and this should be crystal clear from the very start considering the fact that she's a fucking anime girl twitch actor playing gf simulator and handing out toy pretend rings for thousands of other faggots like you. It should be 100% clear to you from the start that you shouldn't take this seriously and treat it as nothing more than escapist bullshit. You want to indulge in that, fine, simply don't become delusional and start thinking that you have any chance to smash the person behind the avatar or that you're in a real relationship. If you do, you are unironically mentally retarded, and it isn't her fault that you are too fucking stupid to understand this and you deserve to lose every cent to your name.

[Anonymous No.]

The fact is, being a gachi/unicorn is the only way to get actually cucked.

[Sage OP is a mentally ill SJW faggot No.]

>>18143148
Cope. Seethe. Dilate. And stick a hotdog up your bunghole faggot. If anything mentally ill trash like you are lucky enough not to be locked up on mind correctional camps and now you niggers are rubbing your victim complexes on everyone's face like fucking kikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146883
sjw's would be absolving rushia of all her sins and heaping the blame solely on the lonely men that were victims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146883
>mentally ill trash like you
nice projection m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146832
GFEtards are retarded, yes. It does't change anything about chuubas taking advantage of them being vapid whores. If anything, scamming mentally challenged is about as low as a person can go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146777
It wasn't known. She assured everyone she has nobody and constantly tweets about being annoyed at riajuus holding hands in public and people being happy in general.

>>18146820
She is not playing any kind of anime girl there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
>Gachikoi and Unicorns deserve to be saved.
Nah, they deserve death. In fact, they should just kill themselves en masse since there's no hope for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147054
nigger it was a well known fact since 2018 that they're living together
everybody knows this. even the fandeads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147061
dont worry, they will soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147025
Nah, if they're too braindead to realize this is an act then they only have their own smooth brain to blame. They scam themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147025
>scamming mentally challenged is about as low as a person can go
Nope. Zero sympathy. How do you even manage to navigate the fucking Internet if you're that retarded? This shit's self-inflicted too, so none of that NOT THEIR FAULT nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147105
Then why did she post on her roommate account about hating couples? Why did she tell her roommate followers that she loves them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146703
It's been butchered since then, it was supposed to mean people who can't accept a girl having any form of male interaction or even acknowledging their existence outside their fans. Now you get called a unicorn even if you just don't want a chuuba to openly flirt with a guy colleague on stream or in this case don't want a hardcore gfe chuuba to fail their opsec and reveal they have a bf

Rushia had made TV appearances, talked to males and fandeads didn't freak out. She's not harboring unicorns but gachikoi, people who are unironically in love with her, which is a different breed of schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147164
>>18147191
Only braindead people do drugs and they deserve to die off.
Only braindead people invest into pyramid schemes and they deserve to lose all their saving until there is no mongoloid amoeba incapable of managing its money left who has more shit than they need for sustenance.
Cool way of thinking but there are too many retards around for society not to collapse if you start actually acting on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145479
It was unironic 'male voice = bf' retards even though it was clearly her Dad that she already established she lives with. 100% nothing to it, just dramafags desperate for a rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145708
She explicitly says she doesn't play a character on stream. Like verbatim she says that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18145691
If you're enough of a pathetic faggot to actually fall for the GFE thing and get scammed instead of actually trying to find a real gf, then you deserve everything you get. This isn't even about defending Rushia either. You people are just worthless faggots who cope with the fact that you're lonely, thus you search for some warmth on the internet of all places. Get it through you thick skulls fellas. They are not your girlfriends and will never be. The sooner you realize it, the better it will be for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147305
>Only braindead people do drugs and they deserve to die off.
Yes.
>Only braindead people invest into pyramid schemes and they deserve to lose all their saving until there is no mongoloid amoeba incapable of managing its money left who has more shit than they need for sustenance.
Yes.
I'm fucking tired of absolving these idiots of all responsibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147305
I don't think they need to die, they just need to fucking learn and sometimes you learn the hard way especially if you're stupid. If you need to flush $30k down the toilet on an internet "gf" delusion before you learn your lesson, tough shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147525
>She explicitly says she doesn't play a character on stream. Like verbatim she says that.
oh damn, that's reassuring. thanks a lot, man. i believe her 100% now. mind blown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146832
>twitch
Tourist fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate normalfags and they should just fuck off to leddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147632
It's called an addiction. GFE without the trouble that comes with it. Addicts are just broken people

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147662
It's the same shit autismo tryhard, they're playing a character on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147660
My point was that the character thing isn't a get out of jail free card, not to convince you. I don't want a faggot like you following her in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147305
Also similarly drug dealers that build a customerbase that's dependant on their product but get murdered when they fail to deliver also deserve what they get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147554
>real gf
You'll get the same thing in the end. If reality finds you even in your escapism that is supposed to be pure and clean fantasy, what hope do you have? You're surrounded by trash people your whole life and you are trash yourself. Face the reality.
It's the blackest of pills you can get - to become aware of yourself and world around you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147554
Why are you responding to my post accusing me of something I just said I don't take part in? Put your soapbox shit somewhere else, fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147726
Ok, that changes nothing about what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if other holo members are pissed at her for lowering their fans trust in them.

[Anonymous No.]

>WHY WON'T YOU LEARN YOUR LESSON
-t. redditfag schizos

my take is you guys are also dumb as shit for trying to change my poor basketweaving degenerates, I love these guys, I don't give a shit about their problems but I will always side with these fuckers because they're the funniest people on this planet, I can't live without them. I'll always be on your side degens, neets, gachikois or whatever the fuck you call yourselves nowadays. This timeline would be grey and boring without you, also fuck off leddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147024
>everyone flinging insults must be projecting like me
The retard revealed itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147606
And yet you are on 4chin/vt/ of all places, which means that you are some sort of a mentally ill retard and there is a scam that would work on you in particular.

>>18147632
I'm not saying that gachikoi retards are good guys or something. They are mentally weak faggots. OP's point is that taking advantage of them is evil and immoral. GFE chuubas are not a fucking force of nature, they are living breathing thinking people too and they realize what they are doing. Scum of the earth. It's fine if you are mom's little Nietzschean but it's still important to remember who is preying on who here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143283
>disposable income
Anon, these anons are going into bankruptcy, they are hikki's that never leave their parents house at 35

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147925
>it's still important to remember who is preying on who here
yep

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147925
>And yet you are on 4chin/vt/ of all places
I came here to laugh at you.
>OP's point is that taking advantage of them is evil and immoral
Tough shit, that happens everyday, everywhere. I'll keep "blaming the victim" because only actual retards make this shit happen to themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147925
She isn't leading you on into thinking you're in an actual relationship. She's running a show, a simulation. She's a god damn anime girl. You suspend your disbelief and indulge in the fantasy and focus on the character, that's the whole point. It's not her fault you're a fucking delusional nigger. Period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146883
>abandon your fellow man
>wlomen can do no wrong
actual kike

[Anonymous No.]

>>18144892
I agree with you, but that kind of pragmatic revelation will destroy the vtubing as a whole

[Anonymous No.]

GFEtubers need their just deserts

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148074
kadowaki mai isn't breaking character when voice acting as illya to talk about how HER day was, that's for sure
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147911
You don't have to stop fantasizing about shit you retard, just don't be fucking delusional because every single one of those roasts is taking cock off stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147869
>You're surrounded by trash people your whole life and you are trash yourself.
It seems you haven't taken just one blackpill, but an entire bottle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18146832
>You want to indulge in that, fine
>If you do, you are unironically mentally retarded, and it isn't her fault that you are too fucking stupid to understand this and you deserve to lose every cent to your name.
I fully agree but do you have to say it so harshly? Maybe he does need to hear it like that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147878
Addicts never learn that's the point I was trying to make. How many people in their lives have tried to help them? The same shit you said have already been said to them. They just dont want to and accept that it's part of them because it gives them escapism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148129
So do mentally ill unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148201
Seethe, dilate, and simp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148074
>She's a god damn anime girl.
Not Rushia. She took it to her personal account about her real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148060
You are so cool anon. Why do you feel the need to come and laugh at pathetic anonymous retards online?

>>18148074
Who are you typing this for? GFE chuubas peddle GFE content, gachikoi retards fall for it because they can't properly separate reality from fantasy. "Drug dealers do literally nothing wrong. They only sell the product, OD'ing is on the retards who can't consoom it the way it's intended."
Spin it all you want, they know what they are doing and how it will end for delusional retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147606
>I'm fucking tired of absolving these idiots of all responsibility.
Man let them keep working at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148244
Some people are retarded and need a wake up call. Just like artia needed the whole taiwan shitstorm to realize she was being used by bilibili.
If you can't avoid these kind of shitstorms, you need the blackpill in order to learn. And if you don't learn, they will timeloop and make your life unbearable until you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148244
>do you have to say it so harshly?
Not the same anon, but people are too soft these days and refuse to face reality. Sometimes harshness is necessary for them to wake up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148244
>do you have to say it so harshly
Yes because delusional people need a harsh reality check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18147911
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>18143148
Imagine being a therapist and listening to a client cry their eyes out while trying to explain what a vtuber is to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18148212
uhh did I say I give a fuck, I think you're the one who's delusional redditfag what the is the point in fucking changing these degenerates? what are you trying to do? nothing, except your just also another dramacucksucking whore far too invested in this bullshit that now you're thinking that you're better than the degenerates here, so stop being "delusional" too friend. It'll get better, it's just life right or some other cute reddit quotes that dumbfucks like you love. I'm here because it's fun, you're here cause your a bitter faggot.

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I love you anon. I don't want to say it, but I have to. I love you anon. Right here and now, I love you. Despite you being a fag. Despite our history, countries and cultures dividing us and making us enemies IRL. Despite you hurting me and me hurting you.

I love you, anon.

I don't need anything from you. I will not take anything from you. I will not break your heart. It's not a romantic love, it's just love. You bring me joy, anon. I hope you will be happy. Don't let reality break you, anon. Pure love exists and it doesn't require your superchats. Always remember that.

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>>18148435
I have a clinical psychology degree and therapy specialization, even if I don't work as that, maybe I should try opening a NEET counseling service, would be interesting

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>>18145022
Dude the amount of L-bombs she drops on all her streams got really annoying and made me unsubscribe. In her super seducer stream the mask started to slip...and its also a huge blaring red flag. You are deluded if you think she's not seeing someone, no fucking way she's single with that extrovert personality.

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>>18148346
>Why do you feel the need to come and laugh at pathetic anonymous retards online?
Because I can.
>Drug dealers do literally nothing wrong.
That's not what's being said here. What's being pointed out is that shit like this happens everywhere, all the time, and will keep happening. This is not an irregularity, and the fact that some faggots psyoped themselves into believing in this shit is laughable.
>OD'ing is on the retards who can't consoom it the way it's intended
OD'ing is for the retards who make the decision to consume it at all. They get what they deserve for being utterly fucking braindead, and don't deserve to be given victim status. They are 100% complicit.

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>>18148435
I love Yukiko

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>>18144600
I'll trust him, one last time, this is my hail mary. Save us shirobro...

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I prefer the chibidoki experience of a mutually abusive relationship.

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>>18148435
Everyone who isn't retarded knows therapy is a scam.
Paying a therapist to pretend to care is the exact same as superchatting your oshi for them to say i love you.

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>>18148487
we're here forever, faggot. and we're here together. Until the end.

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>>18148728
this, therapy is part of an infantilization agenda to weaken the populace
by extension it aids the psychological castration of men, by extension creating this very situation

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>>18148442
>if you disagree with me ur reddit
You're simply asshurt because I'm speaking the truth. If you want to keep thinking the girls behind tubie avatars are pure virgin maidens who've never been within 12 feet of a penis, then that's your problem.
>>18148346
You don't have to be a hyperautismo purityfag to enjoy the fantasy, you do the same shit when you read manga or jerk off to doujins. If you take it so seriously to the point where you become an insane gachikoi that isn't on her - it's on you.

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>>18148728
Their job isn't to care it's to get you to care.

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>>18148817
Can you at least try to speak like a sane person?

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>>18148627
>Because I can.
But can you not? Is it a way in which a well adjusted person would spend their time? And if you aren't well adjusted then why are you so sure that you can't be taken advantage of?
>What's being pointed out is that shit like this happens everywhere, all the time, and will keep happening.
The world has evil in it, what a novel fucking concept. It doesn't mean you need to just accept every instance of it as a given.
>OD'ing is for the retards who make the decision to consume it at all.
Okay. As I've said, if you actually believe that then I won't try to change that. I was arguing with the point that GFE chuubas do nothing wrong because gachikoi they pander to are retarded.

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>>18148728
>>18148817
it's going to shit nowadays, but it didnt use to be like that.
The therapist isnt supposed to be a paid friend or someone reinforcing or negating your bullshit. What he needs to do is to be a conversational, unjudging mirror. People live unaware of life scripts and assumptions that they never confront. The therapist puts a neutral mirror in front of you, in a controlled environment, so that YOU, not him, can save yourself.

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>>18148838
wow how convenient. they take your money and tell you to do all the work.
therapists truly are scum

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>>18148916
>It doesn't mean you need to just accept every instance of it as a given.
yes it does lol, what is this shit

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>>18148948
why wouldn't i just talk to an actual mirror then

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>>18148948
Is this actually true?
I've never in my life not understood the reasons why i was feeling the way i did.
You're telling me that some people can't understand themselves?

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>>18148818
>You don't have to be a hyperautismo purityfag to enjoy the fantasy
"You don't have to OD on fentanyl to enjoy opioids, a mehthead can survive to his 80s if he does drugs properly".
There are hyperautismo purityfags who are into GFE chuubas. GFE chuubas realize that there are hyperautismo purityfags who are into them and they continue to pander to them because the money is good. Stop pretending to be willfully ignorant, nobody likes kvetching.

>>18149028
No it doesn't. It's morally good to oppose evil and that's how it worked for all of human history. Don't like that? Tough shit.

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>>18149056
because of self defense mechanisms, you are not gonna neutrally question yourself, you are gonna evade the difficult thoughts or distort them.

>>18149072
some people can't. Lots of "I MUST", or "I AM LIKE X" implicit assumptions that are never questioned.

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>>18148371
>>18148374
>>18148391
Alright fair enough. Reality can indeed be harsh. It's better if it comes as words and not events. If delusional people had an easy time learning from other peoples experiences they probably wouldn't be where they are. I don't think most of them can be saved, they have to learn the hard way. Some of them will keep repeating the same mistakes even after they personally experience the truth, because they want to keep deluding themselves. I totally get why you want to try to help some of them though.

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>>18149194
you're a literal npc if you need a therapist to understand who you are

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>>18149072
Some people have really shitty childhoods or smoother brains and they can have deep seated mental barriers that don't allow them to see the truth without putting in a lot of effort even when they already know where they're supposed to look.

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>>18143283
I think that criminalizing GFE vtubing is about as retarded as calling the act of fucking a drunk woman or a child a rape.

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>>18149172
>comparing vtubers to fucking fentanyl
I already pointed out that they know insane people are out there, but they can't control what they do. If you want to go along with the roleplay and hand them $$$ to continue it, they're providing you a service, with the implicit understanding that this is roleplay and nothing more. People make shows like Jackass knowing full well that some idiot is probably going to see it and set himself on fire because he saw it on TV, are the producers at fault because of their stupid actions?

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>>18143283
The history of law could be characterized as a continuity of attempts to criminalize immoral behaviour in a society with an everchanging definition of the word immoral.
So, I would say that "we" started criminalizing immoral behaviour ages before anyone alive today was born.

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>>18149257
I'm not even sure they can even be helped at this point. In fact, they remind me of a gambling addict I met years ago. The guy had wasted all of his money in just a couple of days in casinos. He took from friends, his own savings, the bank etc. He knew what he was doing was wrong and that it only brought him misery, but he kept going. He didn't want to be helped, despite being aware that he's just digging his own grave. I'm not sure what ever happened to him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he necked himself or got murdered by some of the people he took money from.

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>>18143148
>gachikoi and unicorns deserve to be saved
They deserve to be milked like the subhuman retards that they are. Imagine unironically simping for a virtual pretend girlfriend. They deserve the cucking and findom they're getting.

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>>18149407
>I think that criminalizing GFE vtubing is about as retarded as calling the act of fucking a drunk woman
yeah i agree
>or a child a rape.
ummm...

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>>18143909
Based and inversion-pilled.

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>>18149408
>with the implicit understanding that this is roleplay and nothing more
Lmao no. There is an implicit understanding that there will be insane retards throwing money at the chuuba because they are not right in the head and that it's fine as long as the chuuba can get away with. If they can't get away with it "i dindu nuffin illegal" comes into play.
>People make shows like Jackass knowing full well that some idiot is probably going to see it and set himself on fire
How many people set themselves on fire after seeing Jackass and how many delusional gachikoi does the average GFE vtuber have? Would producers of Jackass get shit for continuing to produce the show if people were setting themselves on fire daily?

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>>18143909
This. Anyone supporting them is just enabling this mental illness.

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>>18149407
…instead, there should be a massive propaganda campaign educating people on issues like that.

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>>18149706
Based. Education campaigns on healthy online interaction seems to be necessary these days. Too bad the ones that'll spearhead and create those campaigns are schizophrenics themselves.

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>>18149407
I would tell you to touch grass, but I think it's better if you stay inside and never interact with a woman or child.

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>>18143148
Fuck you Shirou, you can't save them all

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>>18148554
>>18148948
Not sure if you're the same person. I went to a therapist once in college, because it was free. She pushed me to read about ANTs which I was too lazy or depressed to do at the time, and when I hadn't done the homework the therapist didn't call me out on it. I didn't feel respected. I needed someone to tell me to get serious about my life, and when even the therapist wouldn't do that after I neglected her advice, I felt like she didn't care if I got better or just stayed the same. She pushed me to try group CBT which I wasn't ready for, but backed off when I rejected it. I remember explaining the same things over and over about why different facets of my life sucked, and the final straw for me was when she said something like "the way you are now, you're like a tire swing that stopped. You have to push and start swinging again." It felt like she was just saying suck it up loser and do something about it, but in a really dumb way. She didn't even care when I flaked on our meeting times, she would just call and say hi for a few minutes. I totally gave up on therapy as a solution after that experience. Not sure why I shared that here, thought it might be fun to talk with a psychologist, I suppose.

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>>18149626
>Would producers of Jackass get shit for continuing to produce the show if people were setting themselves on fire daily?
They shouldn't because they explicitly have a disclaimer telling people not to try anything they see on the show at home, if people ignore that and continue to set themselves on fire, they deserve it. A vtuber's disclaimer comes in the form of the fact that this is an anime girl character and should be obvious to anyone with half a brain in their head that you're not getting into a real relationship. So if insane simps continue to be delusional despite this, they can get fucked.

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>>18149831
>group CBT
Ouch, that must have hurt.

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>>18149931
I see, so the disclaimer is in the way they present themselves huh?

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>>18144039
t. Sociopath who's basically mentally ill as well.

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AAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT I HATE ALL OF IT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME WHY IS EVERYTHING SO SHIT I JUST WANT IT TO ALL END

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>>18149831
>group CBT
>googles cbt
WHAT THE FUCK

the solution to most things is to suck it up+have male friendships

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>>18149931
>disclaimer comes in the form of the fact that I made this shit up
I'm pretty sure that's not how liability works.

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>>18149988
If they present themselves as a fucking anime girl idol cartoon character, then yes, obviously. Retard.

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>>18149831
There's a spectrum on how "pushy" a therapist should be, based on different schools. Non-directive, like Rogers, is more neutral. CBT tends to be a bit more pushy. Some psychoanalists are way too pushy, others less.
About doing things, it needs to be tasked little by little, if you are deppressed even waking up at a good time or cleaning your room is a victory. The phone thing, it is generally said not to be pushy with clients, since you cannot save someone that doesnt want to be saved. Also because shitty therapists prey on people and hook them for years with no signs of improvement. You need to avoid creating a dependence between the client and therapist.

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All of this could be avoided if the streamers announced that they're only playing a role. Why keep all this secrecy about your real life, if you don't intend to deceive? Just be open about it, and let people decide for themselves if they want to watch you based on who you REALLY are.
If it's no big deal, why go to such lengths to keep your real life, especially your relationship status 100% concealed? It's fine if the fans know, right? It wouldn't change anything, right?

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>>18149473
>He didn't want to be helped, despite being aware that he's just digging his own grave.
I suppose that type either 1) believes they can gamble a few times until they're ahead, and then quit forever (not impossible if you play something like roulette or poker), or 2) they believe life has no value and chose hedonism as an escape, preferring a few days of a wealthy "big party" lifestyle to years of dull misery. They probably can't be saved, what they need to do is read a lot of philosophy and find Albert Camus and some others, but if they're addicts it's going to be hard to get them to sit through a movie they don't want to see, much less read something difficult.

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>>18150041
I'm not talking about liability.

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>>18146364
You're still wasting your most important resource: your time.
At the very least, you've found a way to feel morally superiour to other fans within a niche hobby though.

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>>18150053
What does it matter what i think or say about them then? They are not people, just cartoon characters.

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>>18150011
t. KAngel

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>>18144039
based
insanity does exist, but the psychology complex is complicit in the diagnosifiying of every aspect of human behaviour
you're not acting retarded, you have a type of disease, you can't help it
you bare no responsibility whatsoever
do not introspect
do not self-improve
consume.

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Even the scammers with the most blatant and retarded scam project get punished. Stop victim-blaming.

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>>18150057
I suppose I needed to be pushed in a particular way. One on one, for the right reasons at the right times. Good Will Hunting is a perfect example of the type of therapy that would probably work on me. CBT just sounds like a party for losers to prey on each other.
>you cannot save someone that doesnt want to be saved
I think this is flawed, they want to be saved otherwise they wouldn't be in therapy, in most cases.
>hook them for years
Kinda how I feel about it now. She did ask if I wanted to be transferred to another person, I probably should have said yes, but I was far too polite and agreeable at the time.

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>>18150159
It doesn't. I can say fuck Suigintou, she's a shit character, without harassing her voice actress.

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>>18150312
Would it be okay to harass Rushia as long as you don't go into her alternative account?

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>>18150087
some trivia: there's an interesting but extremely rough technique to deal with these kind of addictions, kind of a last resort, where the therapist accompanies them to gamble. And keeps forcing them to gamble, while telling them something along the lines of "yeah this is how you are, keep going, DO IT, KEEP GAMBLING, KEEP DOING IT" and going on and on until they become a mess and plead you to stop.
Basically you're rewriting his conditioning of gambling = good chemicals (reward) with gambling=bad chemicals (punishment)
It's harsh as fuck, a last resort, and very dangerous, but it can work.

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>>18150093
In that case your "disclaimer" is void since you are not talking about technically getting away with it. There are retards who will ignore that it's an anime character. The chuubas know that there are retards who will ignore it. The chuubas have the agency to stop making content pandering to these types or make their fake nature more explicit but they don't because the money they extract from the mentally ill is good. It's reprehensible no matter how you try to spin it. You don't need to tell me that gachikoi are retarded, I realize it. It doesn't invalidate anything. There is not much else to it.

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>>18144984
Oh please the line is blurred as fuck. The "character" constantly talks about stuff that happens in the actresses daily life as well as her past.

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>>18150071
Money. The reason is money. They hide their whorish ways because they know they will have less viewers and earn less money.

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>>18150087
I think it was a mixture of both. We talked extensively, and from what I learned, he was pretty unhappy with his life and job, he didn't have a gf or wife and just wanted to have a lot of money and live a luxurious life. I don't completely blame him, as the salary in my country is so miserable, that people often resort to either working multiple jobs or commit illegal acts for money.

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>>18150181
many shit has contributed to this:
-the pharma industry
-the need to classify for professionals to communicate between each other
-study grants
-bad therapists
-the (purposeful) mistake of treating all mental disorders as "illness". This is taken from the medical world, generally because psychology cucks to medicine and wants to be seen as legit. An illness is by definition, caused by a pathogen or a genetic condition at most. Not all mental disorders are a medical conditions, or exclusively medical (some are, like Alzheimers which is caused by protein conglomerates).

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>>18150026
Cognitive-behavioural therapy.

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>>18144701
>they belev
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You can't tell me they are not into that

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>>18145589
>cool people for entertainment
This automatically excludes vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Guys... She's still parasocial with us... Right??

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>>18147911
Thank you.

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>>18143148
honestly, it's fucked up, but in reality you can't do anything about it, cause in the end it's their choice to fall into their own delusions

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>>18150374
No, retard.
>>18150405
>make their fake nature more explicit
Fucking how explicit does it need to be when she's an anime character before it needs to be clear that she isn't really your girlfriend? Nobody is allowed to enjoy this sort of content because some complete idiots can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy and take things too far? And it's the vtuber's fault that niggers are this stupid?

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>>18150564
forgot to say, and also ideological interests
In the soviet union, people who were against the regime were diagnosed with "reformist delusion", something along these lines.
Bad actors have used (and still use) psychology to diagnose away ideological oponents.

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>>18143148
not sure about them deserving to be saved, but taking advantage of them is still wrong.
it's like some girl dressing like a prostitute, getting absolutely smashed and then being surprised that she ends up being raped when she passes out in some dark alley on the way back home. her rapist is still a rapist, but she was also asking for it.
not every scenario is split between good and bad, sometimes it's both sides being retarded and/or evil

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>>18150646
Of course. She only has sex with mm to avoid creating a situation where one fandead would be treated better than the others.

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>>18143148
To cannot save them, because they don't want to be saved. Just let them suffer and die.

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fandead mass suicide when?
rushia can just revive them later

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>>18150676
An anime character can't interact with you. Thus, a vtuber is not an anime character.

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>>18149758
and if they aren't schizophrenics, they'll be out of touch and apex cringe boomers, turning people away from the message just with the way it is presented.

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>>18150801

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>>18150259
>I think this is flawed, they want to be saved otherwise they wouldn't be in therapy, in most cases.
It is recommended to remark if someone is going to therapy on their own will, instead of persuaded by parents, friends or others. The thing about not being pushy, is about putting the locus of responsability on the person, not the therapist (which is part of the healing process). But yeah, timing is important, and you need to show you actually care. An uncaring therapist is mostly going to fail.

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>>18150676
>Fucking how explicit does it need to be when she's an anime character before it needs to be clear that she isn't really your girlfriend?
Not hiding a relationships you have been in for years would be a start. Everybody with half a brain realizes that they aren't single anyway, right? Why the circus?
>Nobody is allowed to enjoy this sort of content because some complete idiots can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy and take things too far?
I am not passing legislation here. I am saying that it's morally reprehensible, is all.
>And it's the vtuber's fault that niggers are this stupid?
It's vtuber's fault for willingly in full clarity of mind taking advantage of mentally disadvantaged while realizing what they are doing. Do (you) actually believe that e.g. Rushia doesn't understand that all her biggest gachi are delusional retards who gave up on reality long ago and who don't treat her like "haha anime girl makes cute sounds"? Nigger please. For what purpose are you lying to me and yourself?

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>>18150385
Very interesting. I think I saw Tony Robbins use that technique on a guy to make him think pizza was gross so he could lose weight. I prefer harsh methods but I know others would cave too easily so it won't work for everyone. The Tony Robbins method is going for the same end result, in a more meditative way.
>>18150540
Most people are like that, especially if they aren't getting affection, even if they have a gf. I don't know how people can live for years being a wagie without spending all their free time trying to start their own business so they can get out. It's mind boggling. I'm halfway out. That reminds me I need to stop social media for a while and actually get something done....

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>>18143909
Sweet sweet money don't just fall down from the sky

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Why are people defending GFE here anyway? Are those just simps but with different oshi that's not Calli or Rushia?

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>>18150929
>live for years being a wagie
Also I realize some people can cope if they get enough affection to make up for it. Too many people don't, though. That's why vtubers got so popular.

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>>18144186
Hiring prostitute doesn't mean she can give me gfe, rental kanojo is fucking expensive

[Anonymous No.]

this shit is so fascinating to watch for me. people who voluntarily throw hundreds of dollars at streamers has always seemed beyond retarded, I don't even pay for actual products if I can get away with it. I always just chalked it up to a zoomer fad, some random chick who doesn't even have to show her face and does maybe 6 hours of work a week builds a multi-million dollar house of cards out of it by somehow conning thousands of losers into handing over the cash.

truly stranger than fiction.

makes me wonder how far reaching the social maladjustment of the populace really is.

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>>18147869
this. if not even your escapism fantasy that took a supreme amount of delusion to construct and keep up is safe from it, what makes you think reality will be any better?

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>>18144984
Feminist like you only encourage female degeneracy

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>>18151097
>makes me wonder how far reaching the social maladjustment of the populace really is.
Not very. This is just a small minority.

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>>18150676
Why wouldn't i be okay? It's not a real person, it's just a character.

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>>18144850
An actress gets money by her own acting talent, a gfe chubba gets money by exploiting lonely men. Don't compare them, that's an insult for people who work hard to become famous

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>>18151097
> truly stranger than fiction
Or perhaps, your understanding of reality is so shallow that you can't help but open your mouth in amazement whenever shit happens.
Although I do agree, the shit is hilarious and the drama around it is tasty.

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>Be really upset about your favorite GFE chuuba having a boyfriend
>Somehow not upset that you literally share her with millions of fans

What kind of doublethink is that? I can understand that your GFE won't be the same anymore, but actually feeling betrayed over this? Really? I don't understand unicorns.

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>>18151232
I don't mean just this, but streaming in general. If you tried to sell that as a viable career path like 15 years ago people would laugh in your face. Like you wanted to make a living as a street performer.

People who drop hundreds or thousands of dollars on their favorite streamer is not a healthy thing for probably 99% of the people who actually do it. I would not at all be shocked of those people spend many times more money on the person beyond the screen who doesn't even know their name than they do on their own family.

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>>18151307
There is no point arguing with this dude, he is on some holy crusade to willfully pretend that putting an anime pfp pic on your account automatically makes you different from any other streamer.

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>>18151365
Cause her millions of fans don't get to dick her down after the stream's over, I would think. They're all equally kissless, touchless faggots so there's no reason for animosity.

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>>18151307
>An actress gets money by her own acting talent
an actress gets money by how well she can handle her handlers' cocks, my dude

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>>18143148
You're right. It was always wrong to exploit these people and its always going to be wrong.

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>>18148215
I mean, it's a pretty accurate statement. My whole youth has been nothing but a long chain of getting ridiculed for being an upright person and sticking to my principles/promises.

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>>18150916
>Not hiding a relationships you have been in for years would be a start. Everybody with half a brain realizes that they aren't single anyway, right? Why the circus?
Personally I don't give a shit if they reveal that but I can see why people wouldn't was a notification about her bf in the middle of the simulation, it taints the experience, but there's no need to get that autistic about it. And I already said she knows. But she can't control the whale's actions. She isn't holding a gun to their heads holding them hostage to make them donate absurd amounts of money (you could on the other hand expect drug dealers to do this). In the end, they scam themselves by being irresponsible. She shouldn't have to stop the show to a grinding halt specifically for them and announce that he's donated $50k and should probably stop and fuck up her show for the lowest common denominator. If they have that problem they need to deal with it themselves.

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>>18151233

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>jump on jp twitter expecting drama with the way all the offsite nogs in here are going on about it
>it's just a bunch of jun drama antis and not a lot of fandeads
>most of the schizo shit is actual mafu fangirls

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>>18151538
I will have to admit, seeing normalfags trying to be virtuous and disavowing "fake fans" has been interesting.

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>>18149831
You feel that you need to be "called out" on your bad behavior in order to improve it because that's how your parents/guardians raised you to be.
Not a shrink, just another unfortunate bastard that knows that feel that you've put into your spoiler.

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>>18151536
Care to give a real answer instead of intellectually flailing?

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>>18151701
You're harassing the voice actress when you break the roleplay to harass them, fucktard.

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>>18144690
Remember, anon, "hurr men bad". Now help me end the humanity that doesn't care about you while finally seeing its retardation punished with extinction.

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>>18148948
I don't know about you but in my country I have always viewed therapy as a way for unlikeable women to try and lord it over men.
>oh you are a complete fuckup
>the problem is all of society's expectations you should fight the patriarchical norms instead of trying to fit in at all or finding a niche subculture where you can feel belonging, those are both icky and male and thus wrong.

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>>18151365
>Be starved for affection
>Go to a stadium with thousands of other lonely guys to watch a single anime girl on the stage
>She showers you with affection
>She might even say stuff like "I love you," she might tell you she's lonely and she cries herself to sleep at night because she's just like you, starved for affection
>If you give her some money she will personally acknowledge you
This situation, while fucked up and deceitful if you look beyond the surface, can feel very safe and inviting for guys who didn't get enough affection growing up or from their girlfriends.
>A guy walks out from behind the curtain and gets on stage and starts kissing the girl, then he leaves
Now how could the memory of the guy kissing this mythical fairy girl taint the experience of receiving affection? If you can't compartmentalize each moment as its own experience, and purposely memory hole the boyfriend so you can enjoy the affection, then you won't be able to think about anything but her boyfriend. The affection becomes fake and hollow. If you can memory hole it and enjoy each moment without expecting anything more than her performance, then you can benefit from this interaction.
t. GFE enjoyer

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>>18151498
>Personally I don't give a shit if they reveal that but I can see why people wouldn't was a notification about her bf in the middle of the simulation,
They don't even need to notify anyone. Just don't do a really good job hiding it. Those who willingly dig shit up are to blame themselves for breaking the simulation. Good healthy GFE boys are only there for the regularly scheduled VA acting as an anime girl streams, right? Yet for some reason these chuubas try to get rid of any trace even outside of their character space. Really activates my almonds.
>She isn't holding a gun to their heads holding them hostage to make them donate absurd amounts of money
Drug dealers usually don't force the addicts to buy either. They only offer product to those who want it. Saints, truly.
Whales are literally mentally ill. GFE chuubas take advantage of mentally unstable people. And sure, you could argue that anyone who isn't perfectly healthy and in control of their destiny deserve what's coming for them for the 17th time in this thread, but the social norm is that purposefully taking advantage of the (in this case mentally) weak is not a good thing to do. This shouldn't be a complicated idea.

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>>18151677
My parents mostly neglected me and to this day I have a hard time getting them to have a deep conversation with me or acknowledge my emotions. I was also a gifted kid who skated through everything until college, now I have to spend my early adulthood fixing myself so I can actually put some effort into things.

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>>18151732
Rushia isn't the voice actor though, she is simply the character which cannot be held accountable for GFE as you have said several times in this thread.

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>>18143283
Some kinds of immoral behavior are already illegal in Japan. For example, you can easily get into legal trouble for dating several women in secret at the same time because you're violating their human right to dignity. I think you could make a case against GFE or at least certain personalities that take it too far if enough people complained.

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>>18149407
Lmao good job outing yourself, pedo.

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>>18143148
Not false
It's like fire though, the gachikoi need to get burned at least once to know not to get into this shit

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>>18143148
The entire industry profits on loneliness.

How much money do you think waifu vtubers will lose if they had a little disclaimer like
>"Don't actually fall in love with me I am merely pretending to be a character, I have a private life, spend your money wisely"

Didn't you see how much Silvervale's subs (temporarily) dropped when she lashed out saying you shouldn't be parasocial creep and then went right back to being your pretend waifu?

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>>18151437
I just can't wrap my head around it. I see a lot of posts going on about how she lied to her fans or that she begged her fans to trust her and shit and it's baffling. Like, what was the lie? That she loved you? If you saw another person who bought her ring what would you say, "Hey isn't it weird how Rushia said she loves boths of us?" That wouldn't kill the experience? It all amounted to playing pretend and her acting all yandere makes it even more obvious, it's like being upset that she also isn't a necromancer.
But no, people really want the person behind the screen to remain single forever. Shit's wild

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>>18152201
I heard the silvervale thing just came across as her being obnoxious and in the face of everyone about it. Didn't know that she was capable of attracting such fans.

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>>18151909
>the social norm is that purposefully taking advantage of the (in this case mentally) weak is not a good thing to do.
Life is so messed up that I concluded it's everyone for themselves. I admire Rushia and others like her for their shrewd farming skills. They are willing to put in time and effort and so they're rewarded for it. Rushia didn't exactly spend 4 years making people feel bad for hours every day, the opposite is true. In that regard, she's more of a saint than I'll ever be.

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>>18151909
>Those who willingly dig shit up are to blame themselves for breaking the simulation
>Yet for some reason these chuubas try to get rid of any trace even outside of their character space
Yeah because they know nutcases could try to doxx them and possibly pay them a visit for a nice rape correction when they do something they don't like.
>>18151909
>but the social norm is that purposefully taking advantage of the (in this case mentally) weak is not a good thing to do
I don't give a fuck about these retards playing the victim because they were stupid enough to think they were in a relationship with a live streamer pretending to be an anime girl and act betrayed when they got "cucked" by her bf. If anything this is a good thing because maybe now they will wake the fuck up and learn not to take this so seriously. And you can keep preaching about taking advantage of those poor exploited and literally abused victims for the millionth time, when the fault lies on their shoulders for thinking it was real in the first place when it was beyond obvious from the get-go that it wasn't but they refused to acknowledge it. They chose this.

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>>18152318
Sort of obnoxious yeah but she had psycho stalker tier dudes going after her and now she's just wary about it.

It's just the first example that came to me where a vtuber publicly breaks the façade to pull their fans down to earth

I've never seen a Holo do this though, keeping the idol mask on non-stop must be tiring.

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>>18152442
I'm curious; would these retards try to defend an addict father who beats the shit out of his wife and kids using the arguments they've made here? It's mindboggling.

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>>18152098
You are harassing the voice actress because you're breaking out of the roleplay to target them as an actual person. They can't be held accountable if retarded faggots choose to harass the person behind the avatar because they took her roleplay streamer gimmick too seriously.

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>>18151859
Yeah I can agree that people won't be able to enjoy her GFE the same way, and yeah it must suck.
If you do that kind of thing you obviously keep your private life hidden six feet underground, and Rushia did wrong on that regard.
But every other accusation feels so out of this world.

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>>18151407
People donating fucktons to streamers are a small minority like I said. It's not some grand problem

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>>18152536
The wife and kids are stuck with that orangutan in his house, you have absolutely no obligation to remain on Rushia's streams and send her your life savings. Nice attempt at a false equivalence though.

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I can never hate you gachikois, I'll never have your focus, your loyalty or your dedication and it sure as hell isn't a delusion to give your all for someone because that someone gave you happiness, you guys and gals are perfect the way you are.

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>>18152442
>Yeah because they know nutcases could try to doxx them and possibly pay them a visit for a nice rape correction when they do something they don't like.
There are plenty of chuubas who are open about their relationships or don't really hide them on side accounts. You don't get mentally ill faggots if you don't want them. Funny how that works.
>I don't give a fuck about these retards playing the victim
Perfect. That's exactly how I feel about GFE chuubas.

>>18152536
I'm not defending gachikoi though? It's you who are defending GFE chuubas. In your analogy, (you) are defending a drug dealer who sold to the addict father because "only a braindead retard doesn't understand the consequences of buying meth from a nigger, there are plenty of people who get high without going full violent junky, the nigger hustler is doing a good job supplying drugs to the community that is full of disadvantaged people who need a dose to get through the day".

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>>18152621
>you have absolutely no obligation to remain on Rushia's streams and send her your life savings.
Huh? It's just the nature of an addict, am I right?

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>>18145412
it's Mutsuki, a character from the game Blue Archive

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>>18152738
>only a braindead retard doesn't understand the consequences of buying meth from a nigger
Yes.
>the nigger hustler is doing a good job supplying drugs to the community that is full of disadvantaged people who need a dose to get through the day
No. The nigger hustler was going to do it anyway, and that's a fact of life.

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>>18152556
>you're breaking out of the roleplay to target them as an actual person
Where does this apply when the character gets a message from her partner visible to everyone in the middle of her performance?

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>>18152738
Last time I checked watching vtubers doesn't make your organs melt, this comparison of roleplay to drug dealing is laughable, so you think vtubing should be regulated like drugs? Or are you inconsistent?

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I hope nobody harm themselves

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>>18152564
>keep your private life hidden
Meh. Some people just don't get it. The guys who go for GFE should be happy they are getting any positive attention at all. Then again I'm not the type to superchat. Maybe if I had 5 million dollars I'd drop an aka here or there. But I wouldn't think I'm going to magically rise out of the sea of her followers and get even more attention and become her oshi if I become her number one paypig. I'm not that needy in the first place. If reality bent to my will and I married my oshi, I probably wouldn't want to spend much more than 2 hours a day with her, and that's being generous. I already have everything that I want from her except sex and physical affection, and I don't expect to ever get those from a chuuba.

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>>18143148
Can someone explain me who the fuck is an unicorn?

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>>18152827
They aren't obligated, they choose to indulge in their schizo bullshit.
>>18152943
The message isn't directed at the character.

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>>18144186
the anon who hired a girl to sound like ateshi then roleplayed with her is still the man i look up to.

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>>18153061
>The message isn't directed at the character.
You have to make up your mind about this at some point, aren't we all talking about Rushia right now?

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>>18146166
Wrong board for that. This place truly is just the moon.

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>https://twitter.com/umeshu_1129/status/1492019176239923201

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>>18152067
Ah, so we really are kindred spirits then. Unfortunately, I was too far gone by the time it came to attend university to use it as a chance to improve my lot, instead using it as an opportunity self-sabotage myself into a suicidal corner.
However, your ability to communicate these feelings even just to our fellow Mongolian basket-weaving enthusiasts means that you've made progress that some lost souls in this all-to-common vicious cycle of parental neglect/abuse will never make.
Godspeed on your journey.

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>>18153163
I think you need to get to the point of what you're trying to say instead of asking retarded questions.

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>>18152934
>No. The nigger hustler was going to do it anyway, and that's a fact of life.
Nigger gangs will do violent crime and that's a fact of life. They are just a force of nature. Part and fucking parcel of living in a big city.

>>18152955
Again, I am not passing legislation here. I am saying GFE bad. People who demand GFE are mentally ill faggots and people providing GFE are psychopathic whores purposefully taking advantage of mentally ill faggots, the latter being worse than the former. They are not muh poor girls being harassed by evil unicorns. It's important for people who engage with vtubers to remember it and act accordingly. Not everything needs to be about state regulation.

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>>18153225
that's sad

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>>18153280
>to use it as a chance to improve my lot, instead using it
Same.
>your ability to communicate these feelings
If it's allowed, sure.
>self-sabotage
Yep. That's most of it. And suppressed anger, at first directed at the wrong people, those who neglected me. And then directed at myself for being weak. That's when I started to change.

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>>18153338
>GFE bad
Why? For most of us GFE is the only thing we can get and it's sure as fuck better than having your fundamental psychological needs completely unfulfilled.

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>>18153285
To be fair, i'm just asking questions to you because your whole view on this is fundamentally flawed and comes across as you trying to whiteknight for GFE streamers against their intended audience, and i want to understand why you feel a need to do that without being a gachioki yourself.

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>>18143148
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This goes both ways:
If you attach yourself mentally and pseudo-romantically to an e-celeb with a cute anime avatar, you deserve to receive a hard reality-check.
If you base your career on taking advantage of people like that, you deserve having to deal with the nuclear fallout of when you inevitably slip.

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>>18152621
> you have absolutely no obligation to remain on Rushia's streams and send her your life savings.
You see, they believe she's their girlfriend who's obliged to stay loyal to them and do her best to entertain them, and thus, they are obliged to provide for her on their part and be loyal to her as well. People have been tricked into believing that there actually is this kind of social contract going on.

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>>18153467
>Why?
Because it shits up the industry with silly nonsense and perpetuates insanity.
>For most of us GFE is the only thing we can get
Most of who? Mentally ill faggots who are more than ready to kick the slightly more mentally ill gachikoi faggots while they are down as demonstrated in this thread? Why do I care again?

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>>18149407
bad anon

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>>18153467
>better than having your fundamental psychological needs completely unfulfilled.
NTA. In the past this would push the individual to go out and get a girlfriend, but for a lot of guys the wall to get a girlfriend has become too high. Entitlement is rampant, and when the girlfriend acts this way with the guy, why should the guy want a girlfriend if he was looking to her for affection and not to simply get used as an ego boost. Yaaas queen, and all that.

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>>18153338
>Not everything needs to be about state regulation.
I can respect you for this, but it's still inconsistent with your logic comparing it to hard drugs. I know there are some psycho bitches out there but I don't think every girl doing this is one and you seem bent on assuming this is the case.
>>18153487
I don't watch GFE streamers, I just don't think they should have to take the blame for the actions of nutcases. You keep asking about the character vs. the actress when the point is just that when you are watching her and playing along with her roleplay with the rest of the chat, it's separated from her real life, they want to keep the roleplay authentic so they try to keep personal shit aside, also because of doxxing.

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the fucking responses on twitter are incredible, hololive's audience is actually FILLED with unironic cucks that think there should be no consequences for rushia at all in this, i thought my faith in humanity couldn't go lower, what a bunch of spineless cocksuckers

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>>18153659
>People have been tricked
They tricked themselves into thinking the anime roleplay was real, because they're retarded

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>>18153686
Yeah that's my point. There's no harm in it because most couldn't have gotten a gf anyways.

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>>18153766
She should be reprimanded for being unprofessional and fucking up her one job, but the only cuck here is you lmao

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>>18153467
Everything in moderation. Failing is humane, but I expect corporations to stop their talents from going too far when they're going into menhera overdrive. Vtuber startups have thus far been largely irresponsible when it comes to this and have a lot to learn from proper idol agencies that are already anything but a beacon of morals, but still act more reasonable in that regard.

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>>18153883
I get what you mean but I don't get how this makes GFE inherently a bad thing

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>>18153766
The audience should take the wakeup call for sure. But they should also continue watching Rushia to get their affection. They are going to have a hard time finding it if they choose to get a real gf instead.

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>>18153930
It's bad when you only do the toxic relationship and guilt tripping part of a GF and then start selling wedding rings. Cover went way too far for profit.

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>>18153883
>I expect corporations to stop their talents from going too far
Why should they? The world is a brutal place, and people should be allowed to earn money where they can, especially if they're helping someone feel good.

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Rushia was completely aware of what her actions would cause and the consequences of a scandal like this, as such she has no right to complain about what is happening as it is entirely her own fault.

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>>18153883
they are selling a PRODUCT, they're completely amoral
if you're buying it, that's on you

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>>18153774
> They tricked themselves
They did, but that's just half the story. The money the anime "character" gets and says thanks for is very much real.

Things really get troublesome when the fourth wall is broken.

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>>18153766
I'm losing faith in humanity because of how many cucks actually fell for the GFE thing.

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>>18153697
>I know there are some psycho bitches out there but I don't think every girl doing this is one and you seem bent on assuming this is the case.
Anon, everyone, literally every single person in this industry understands how gachikoi pandering works. Hololive as a corporation is built around it. Do you think they are actually retarded or something? They do know that a large part of their income is extracted from mentally unstable individuals. It is by design and they either don't care in the first place or have made mental compromise with the idea because the money was too good to give up on exploiting lonely autists. There are chuubas who get intimate with the audience but openly say that they don't want insane retards to throw money at them and who do do their best to avoid attracting those insane retards. They are a minority.

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>>18154219
So what do you want them to do? Completely stop GFE because of these morons? Throw up a tardproof bold text disclaimer at the top of every stream?

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>>18144460
True 2D is the only way.

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>>18153062
what fill me in

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>>18154449
I want the ones who properly separate the actor and the role not to hide their real relationships, at least on their side accounts. I want the ones who employ deceptive predatory tactics aimed at cheating mentally ill retards out of their money to be treated as the scum they are.

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Visited the brazillian colonial administration forum.idk how to describe some shizo fandead than netolarps (Ugly bastard larpers who are in denial to the deranged)

Example
>BF? better i need someone to watch
>good i go both ways
>how is this a problem? That means i only need to show her the real deal
>I can take her from him and he can join if he wear the belt
>I need a bank anyway
>does he have a sister?
>i wanna see his face when "his" child is born
>To hold the camera

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>>18153870
i haven't sent an ounce of cash to any of these fucking whores you moron, i was always there for entertainment and now that my suspicions were correct i'll fucking shame those that donate to them
>>18153948
they should fucking drop her immediatelly and start loving themselves more, that's the way to go, rushia doesn't deserve any attention if she's a whore that was fucking someone else while milking fandead money
>>18154195
>its the guy walking in the sidewalk's fault for getting run over by the drunk driver
>its the guy's fault for getting cheated by the woman
>its the guy's fault for being abused by the women
moron

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>>18154573
>deceptive predatory tactics
Which ones exactly?

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>>18154573
your idealism is retarded
at the end of the day they're here to make money, and the fact that they're operating in a morally grey(yes, not evil) zone won't change that

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>>18154625
>>its the guy's fault for getting cheated by the woman
if the guy knew the girl was being shifty with her relationship history, then yeah, he should at the very least expect the whore to act like a whore

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I felt kind of bad for them but I took a look at the thread and they are both delusional and unlikeable so that's gone.

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>>18154625
>It's not my fault for giving all of my money to the virtual anime girl. It's her fault for playing a character.
Just end it. Right now.

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>>18154702
genuine retardation, you've been brainwashed to blame actual victims by twitter

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>>18154042
>>18154073
Burger fingers typed this.

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>>18154625
Yeah, it's certainly at least partially their fault for being dumb enough to think it was real. Cuck.

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>>18154803
>muh victimblaming
ironic coming from the person accusing me of using twitter
also learn to read

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>>18154806
>money bad even if the method you use to obtain it not explicitly immoral and HINGES on retards willingly engaging in a transaction
commie hands typed this

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>>18154911
There's no saving this world. At least someone is getting a good time out of it.

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>>18154958
it was doomed from the start, yes

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>>18154980
You're astute.

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>>18154958
>There's no saving this world
Based. We must destroy it instead.

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>>18154628
>Which ones exactly?
Pretending to be single to pull string of mentally unstable lonely men after employing design decisions devised by Japanese entertainment industry to appeal to those insane individuals in the first place.

>>18154634
>at the end of the day they're here to make money
Yes. I don't see why that should stop me from shitting on them. Nobody in this thread seems to have any problem with shitting on unicorns. If the product they sell is bad and laced with poison then they deserve to at least be called out.

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>>18155058
If it wouldn't get replaced by something worse, I'd agree with you.

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holocucks...

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>>18155100
We won't live to see it either way

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>>18155075
>Pretending to be single
So what if she pretends to be single while in character but does whatever on her alt account?

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>>18155151
>I want the ones who properly separate the actor and the role not to hide their real relationships, at least on their side accounts.
Read, nigger, read. If they commit to playing a role but make clear that the person behind the avatar is a separate entity and is probably fucking a boyfriend I can respect that since it triggers completely different neurons in men's monkey brains.

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>>18155353
So GFE isn't inherently evil exploitative victimization of poor lonely autismos? Glad we can agree. I'd argue that should be obvious from the start and shouldn't require them to disclose their alts to show they aren't single and subject them to doxxing and harassment from mentally unstable chimps.

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No longer trending in Japan at all, she won, it's over. She's gonna get away scott free.

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>>18155541
Based Rushia cucking the fanbase and getting away with it

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>>18155476
>subject them to doxxing and harassment
NTA, this can be solved by making anime character alts. Imagine if her public alt was another anime character, but it only responds to her bf's alt, also an anime character. This way they can see she has a bf and she can avoid getting doxxed.

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>>18155476
>subject them to doxxing and harassment from mentally unstable chimps.
Maybe they shouldn't pander to mentally unstable chimps? There are some girls who don't. Oh wait, they would miss out on the money extracted from mentally unstable chimps. Can't have that. Exploiting mentally insane and complaining about them is the way of a true GFE chuuba. Their cucks will defend it too. They are providing a service lmao.

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>>18155541
feel bad for fandead desu

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>>18144460
PLEASE BULLY ME MUTSUKI

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>>18155741
I guess, but why do that when you can simply acknowledge that it's roleplay and that she more than likely is getting dicked off stream?
>>18155829
Or maybe they can take their meds and stop being delusional retards, and treat the fantasy for what it is.

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>>18156322
>Or maybe they can take their meds and stop being delusional retards, and treat the fantasy for what it is.
Then they wouldn't throw their life saving at the chuubas and certain GFE providers wouldn't be most superchatted streamers on Youtube. Can't have that. Hence the pandering aimed to attract exactly the kind of audience that won't take their meds and to tie them down as tightly as possible.

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>>18143148
how do we save him, bros...

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>>18156460
You can enjoy the content without being a schizo, and if some schizo drains his wallet because of this shit he will either learn and take the meds, or rope.

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>>18153062
post it

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>>18156322
>why do that when you can simply acknowledge that it's roleplay
This is for the benefit of delusional gfe "enjoyers" who think she's actually single.

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>>18148761
Fuck you for posting ALS kun in this shit thread

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>>18143148
Gachikoi and unicorns deserve to be hanged.