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Why do none of the Indonesian holos speak their own language?

>> No.1791128

Because nobody would watch them

>> No.1791149

They need the EN audience or else their streams would be below 1000 viewers.

>> No.1791153

>>1791116
they do sometimes when they collab together. recent one is the moona/reine stream

>> No.1791166

Didn't check out the Pavolia off collab with ID gen 2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXNSN19R6LU

>> No.1791170

They do, just watch any collabs that have Anya in them. It just kills their viewer numbers when they do it because there's just not that many Indonesian viewers.

>> No.1791220

They do but when that happens all chat screams they speak english again

>> No.1791238

indos have no money
watch nijisanji if you want indo experience

>> No.1791372

Some indog told me Moona's Indonesian sucks. Apparently she is talking like a child.

>> No.1791430

Moona's language is not indonesian

>> No.1791439

>>1791372
Autistic plz andastand

>> No.1791450

>>1791116
they occasionally speak in bahasa, anon.
>>1791372
now this is kinda true. she isn't capable speaking in any language.
t.indog

>> No.1791474

>>1791116
They do, look at the Reine/moona collab

>> No.1791568

>>1791116
They do, in collabs, since technically they are ID streamers, but who will willingly narrow their audience to only indogs? Even Anya speaks mostly Japanese and English on stream.

>> No.1794021
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1794021

EOP money is good, also I think they know their indog brethren can understand them anyways.

>> No.1794091

>>1791116
Watch NijiID

>> No.1794094

>>1791116
Not even going to repeat what the others have already said, but isn't "Indonesian" not even their first language - instead their first language is some sort of regional dialect?

>> No.1794127

>>1794094
this only applies for boomers and people from rural areas which I doubt any of them are

>> No.1794621

>>1791116
if u didn't like it, just watch nijiID anon-kun

>> No.1794940

>>1794127
Gandeng anjing.
Aing leuwih hayang nonton holoid make bahasa jepang ato inggris dibandingkeun bahasa indonesia.

>> No.1795314

>>1791116
Never drew a dime from those guys.

>> No.1795350

>>1791170
>>1791149
what's the point of HoloID then?

>> No.1795390

>>1794094
Yes, the whole SEA region is like that. It must really fuck with development not building on their mother tongue and instead being taught some prescribed Frankenstein's monster of a language, then learning bastardized English from watching anime with horriblesubs. It would explain why they are the way they are.

>> No.1795572

>>1795350
Not sure, but the eng income makes up for it I guess.

>> No.1795696

>>1795350
don't ask me, i'm not cover management. i think they just do it to ensure Nijisani or some local outfit doesn't get more of a foothold there and if they get EN money in the process that's just a bonus

>> No.1795748

>>1795696
V-tubing is truly pro wrestling in another form, huh? Building a market in a new market/territory before the other agencies/feds establish a large fanbase.

>> No.1795784

>>1795748
it's cheaply produced entertainment for drooling idiots who spend all day arguing about it online so yeah pro wrestling is a fair comparison

>> No.1795814

>>1795748
>>1795784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ocsaRq3ns

>> No.1795855

>>1795814
i didn't say the girls themselves were like wrestlers, just that the structure of the industry is making cheap entertainment for really engaged stupid people

>> No.1795949

>>1795350
HoloEN 0.9

>> No.1796198

Moona's Bahasa is absolutely horrible and cringe inducing. If I wanted to hear actual proper Bahasa I would watch Reine.

>> No.1796309

>>1795814
I can kind of understand what she's trying to say especially as a retort to being called fake when giving the positive message to be yourself and don't try to be something you're not.
I can also understand the wrestling analogy as in the viewers suspending their disbelief in order to cheer for more of a archetypes/stereotype's struggle than an actual character in a completely simulated environment akin to comic book shenanigans.
I kind of see my oshi and other talented Vtubers kind of as modern day super-heros. While it's true that they hide their true identities and may act different than their alter-ego, I truly don't believe it means that they are acting fake. They are acting to some degree for sure in the grand scene of things from their archetype to their relationships with the others but they do attempt to portray the best of themselves and become a symbol, an inspiration as to what people can be.
So while I agree that it's all a setup and they are playing characters, I don't believe in my guts that they are fake but are a reflection of all that's good in themselves and by extension all of us.

>> No.1796356

>>1791116
Nobody actually wants to hear that disgusting dog language. The only one that really does is Anya, which fits her greasy fucking accent.

>> No.1796401

>>1791116
Why does indonesian always sound like "dam dagaraga dam darra daga dem"?

>> No.1796418

>>1795748
With this comparison, what are the pro wrestling equivalents of the agencies? Is Hololive the WWE by virtue of having the most popular vtubers, or is it Nijisanji because they have the most amount of vtubers? Is Vshojo the ECW of vtubing because they cater to a trashier audience?

>> No.1796434

>>1794094
No, they're young and definitely live around Greater Jakarta Area. Their mother tongue is Indonesian. Moona is the exception since she fails at any language she speaks.

>> No.1796484

>>1796434
Ollie has a very noticeable thick Javanese accent when she speaks Indonesian casually though. Must be either East or Central Javanese.

>> No.1796528

>>1795350
>massive market
>really likes anime
>can live for a month on a 50$ superchat
It does make sense to try for Gen 1, it just later turn out that anime audience doesn't directly translate into vtuber audience.

>> No.1796543

>>1795350
ID sounds good on paper.
>population of 270 million
>dirty SEA monkeys who aspire to be East Asian through consumption of kpop and anime

>> No.1796553

>>1796434
>they're young
Moona is only slightly younger than Marine

>> No.1796558

Isnt Indonesia heavily Muslim and follow Sharia law? How bad would the holo IDs be punished for doing harem shit on stream if it was found out

>> No.1796599

>>1796528
Pretty much this. They're the largest base of people with otaku based interests outside Japan per capita. People will say it's Brazil or France but neither have it accepted into the mainstream yet and I'm not talking about just anime here.

>> No.1796649

>>1791450
If I go to Indonesia will I find McDonald’s there

>> No.1796655

>>1796558
Indonesians are pretty chill about the religion. Moons never did anything that would be considered haram. She even read some Quaran

>> No.1796660

>>1796558
Anon....

>> No.1796689

>>1796484
Imagine if Ollie or any other ID was west papuan nigger lmao

>> No.1796704

>>1796418
After quickly looking at /pw/ and /asp/ archives.
Holo - NJPW
Niji - AJPW
Vshojo - RAW

>> No.1796723

>>1796484
I would believe that only after Ollie speaks like Amicia Michella on stream.

>>1796553
I kinda doubt that. She doesn't act like someone that old.

>>1796558
Indonesia is not Aceh anon. Please, I don't want to be associated with those radicals.

>> No.1796753

>>1796558
>How bad would the holo IDs be punished for doing harem shit on stream if it was found out
You can have four (4) legal wives in Indonesia you know

>> No.1796759

>>1796418
Idk but AEW posters on /pw/ seem to love Miko and hololive

>> No.1796765

I’m an EOP with Reine as my oshi and when I think about this sometimes I honestly feel kind of bad about it. It does seem a little messed up. As people have said, they do collabs in Indo so it’s not like there’s never Indo exclusive content at least.

>> No.1796779

>>1796723
>I kinda doubt that. She doesn't act like someone that old.
she's autistic

>> No.1796780

>>1796753
>tfw 4/5 of holoID will never be your legal wifes

>> No.1796929

>>1796780
which one would you leave unwifed

>> No.1796936

>>1796929
Ollie

>> No.1796961

>>1796929
Can the undead legally marry?

>> No.1797067

>>1796753
>You can have four (4) legal wives in Indonesia you know
Quick anons, if you could pick four IDs to be your wives who would you pick?

>> No.1797103

>>1797067
Risu, Ayunda, Ayunda Risu, Risu Ayunda

>> No.1797108

>>1797067
Moona (sex)
Iofi (sex & raising childrens)
Reine (less sex & her parents wealth)
Ollie (youngest wife, sex, sex, sex)

>> No.1797117

>>1797067
reine anya risu moona, ez

>> No.1797437

>>1796759
because miko is ELITE

>> No.1797678

>>1791450
>now this is kinda true. she isn't capable speaking in any language.
Can you elaborate on that? What does her Indonesian sound like to a native speaker?

>> No.1798374

>>1797678
To me she sounds like a foreigner trying to speak Indonesian. Her flow and word choices doesn't feel natural.

>> No.1799042

>>1796558
I understand that it's like southamerica is with catholicism, except with islam (i.e. some native traditions are mixed with religious traditions/holidays/celebrations)
t.catholic sudaca

>> No.1799127

>>1797067
Iofi. Why would I need another?

>> No.1799132

The only IDs worth watching are Ollie and Reine, simply because they speak decent English while the rest sound like true ESLs. They wouldn't be out of place in HoloEN to be honest.

>> No.1799144

>>1797067
I only need Risu tbqh

>> No.1799176

>>1791116
SEA understands english, speaking indog doesn't bring them in just take a look at NijiID (1-200 viewers).

>> No.1800626

>>1791116
What language does Moona speak exactly?
>indonesian is apparently child-level
>english is heavily accented and basic
>barely speaks rudimentary Japanese

>> No.1800828

>>1791116
Here you go. Get to work:

https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/id/en/Learn-Indonesian

>> No.1800890

>>1800828
>duolingo

>> No.1801688

>>1796599
China

>> No.1802654

>>1798374
Does it depend on which island she's from? My understanding is that Bahasa is like a lingua franca uniting the islands but most people are more comfortable in their regional language.

>> No.1802899

>>1797108
>not having sex with Reine

nigga you gay

>> No.1803615

>>1802654
I guess? I never traveled outside of the core territories though so my perspective might be wrong. However, from the stories that I've heard and the people that I've met, I think everyone speaks Indonesian fluently unless you never gone to school or live in the middle of nowhere, or both. From my experience in Java, everyone will speak Bahasa unless they meet their fellow ethnic member, then they will prefer to speak in their own language. Except if you're a Jakartan that can't speak any local language like me.

>> No.1803838

>>1796649
McDonald's everywhere here, anon. also KFC and several big fast food chain. even Taco Bell, although they've just opened here last year.
>>1797678
to my understanding, she's probably a passive talker. you need to ask her first for the sake of conversation. sounds like her vocabulary and choices of word are... limited in a way.
i'm not sure if it's because she's a halfie, or just
linguistically stupid.

>> No.1804268

>>1797067
Ollie, Ollie, Ollie and Ollie.

The rest go in the trash.

>> No.1804822

>>1803838
>i'm not sure if it's because she's a halfie
Apparently she is half-Indonesian, indeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXReNLnZhZ4&t=55s

>> No.1805512

>>1803615
That's interesting, thanks for answering

>> No.1805603

>>1804822
So she really doesn't have one single native language? That's kind of sad. Like Pika is similar but she seems pretty proficient in both except for minor grammatical mistakes.

>> No.1805838

>>1805603
Pika isn't 100% proficient in japanese?
Or is she like chicanos who tend to combine spanish phrases into their english and viceversa?

>> No.1805926

>>1805838
She's kind of like a chicano but her jap is 100% better than her English, ESL's wouldn't notice. She doesn't just make minor mistakes, she's better than the average fob (fresh of the boat for you ESLs) but not by much.

>> No.1805953

>>1796929
Risu.

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