/#/ - Numbers thread

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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TALLY OF THE DAY

>32,609: Flare (Hololive)
>29,591: Korone (Hololive)
>21,069: yorumi rena (Nijisanji)
>19,614: Miko (Hololive)
>18,113: Botan (Hololive)
>16,202: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,146: Roboco (Hololive)
>16,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>15,093: Nene (Hololive)
>12,859: Rushia (Hololive)
>12,183: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,951: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,948: Mio (Hololive)
>11,843: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,467: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,451: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,358: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>10,832: Fubuki (Hololive)

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Give today's gold medalist a congratulatory sniff

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>>17908859
Is this Flare's first ever gold?

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>>17908981
sniffffffff

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>>17908981
>>17909055
SNIFFFFF

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>>17907380
>E.g. Evil God Korone, where after the 5th-6th time you’ve just become conditioned to it. Make sense?
It does make sense for people watching "the box" but I'll make a bold assumption here and assume all that most people watch with interest is a single chuuba, at most 2 when they're part of an "unit" (like Okakoro or Noefure).

Of course people in this site or vtuber adjacent sites can say every single Holo by name, branch, gen and year of debut but that's not the regular audience.
I assume most people here remember when they didn't even knew there was this thing called "Hololive" (or "Nijisanji" if that's the case) and only knew about the existence of the one streamer they watched.

The "meta" gets numbers because people wants to watch *their* favorite playing such and such game, regardless of how many other people have played it. It doesn't matter that 20 other chuubas played that game with the menhera vtuber, it will still bring numbers for the subsequent ones because *their* audience wants to watch it.

And Koyori is not even a good example, she's one with the most variety on her choice of streams, accusing her of "just doing the same" is silly

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>>17908999
Since we moved to the current system yes, only because her 85k outfit reveal had the misfortune of being on the same day as Gura's

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>>17908999
>Is this Flare's first ever gold?
I t-think so...?

At least during the "final tally" era I don't recall Flare ever getting gold

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>>17908999
She also won for her birthday event and re-model reveal.
I think this might be her first game stream. At least since we started counting.

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Roses are red
Violets are blue
Numbers are gay
and so are (you)

Reminder that ironic shitposting is still shitposting!

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>>17909220
>>17909140
Forgot about that.

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>>17906261
This is probably one of the main reasons desu.
Ark definitely has a significant viewer base thanks to Coco and old Nijisanji spreading it, but that's it. They're all only oldfags, the buff new audience they got during these past couple of years are all newfags.
And while they might check out the initial streams out of interest, Ark is a a MUCH more complicated game than Minecraft.
You click on any Holoserver minecraft stream and you already know how it's going to go.
Even newfags without any minecraft knowledge can understand it after 5 minutes because of the simplicity of minecraft's mechanics, while for Ark the people joining mid-stream will usually not understand and thing and will probably click off after 30s or so.
Which is also why there's notable dropoffs after the initial boom, the folks that don't understand the game or care for it are leaving, and since not everyone plays Ark, there's no guarantee of unexpected meetings between members that happen literally every single stream in minecraft.

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>>17909230
The top spot is full of gay couples, so here's your (You) for accuracy.

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>>17906491
Laplus is at least recording herself playing it and probably only unable to stream due to her shit Internet.
Hopefully once she moves, we'll see a second "debut buff" where she can finally stream all the buff games she couldn't before.

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Can someone check the sales for this?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1490601463974100993?t=cYV5EhsEZ5bZbjIF03juRg&s=19

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>>17909309
This

Another problem is that there isn't a segment like Asacoco right now that helps fuel the ARK addiction while also keeping the casuals somewhat up-to-date with whats going on. As an individual viewer its incredibly hard to keep up unless you watch a lot of streams.

We're also missing big events this time. During the peak of ARK addiction you had this huge lava golem raid collab. That collab is still one of the best large scale collabs up to this day. Too bad this happened before the real big boom of EOPs arriving so people don't really remember it. Not to mention, the channel that hosted the clips from this collab was Hololive Moments and you know what happened to them.

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>>17909140 (me)
I'm sure if someone had the time and autism to go back through the archives to retroactively award golds to everyone who ever got the most CCV in a day she'd have quite a few though, hell she even broke the Hololive CCV record before for her 3D

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>>17908981
snnifffffffff

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Pekora is back to halfassing her streams. She just streams trash on the weekday just so she can do her long weekend streams. She used to stream random kusoRPGs that could easily pull 40k or play short story games. She’d do a lot of MC but she knew to break it up. Outside her birthday and the carrot eating stream, she’s just streamed ARK and DQ.

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>>17909220
I hate it when otherwise perfectly good fapbait gets ruined by fucked up anatomy

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>>17908981

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This is why you are reclining Peko

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>>17909418
fuck I miss Asacoco man, that shit was a HUGE part of the holobox strat.
Mio and Koyo seem to be trying more "serious" news shows, but they just can't capture the sheer "no fucks given" way Coco presented her stuff.

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Rat's February incline has began. +13k subs now over Fauna when it was ~10k last month. I wonder if she will hit 500k before the end of the month. I can realistically see her doing a 500k endurance stream for the final push.

Also rip IRyS' sub growth

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>>17909373
I can check in an hour or so

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>>17909578
Fewer subs in the last 30 days THAN FUCKING SANA.

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>>17909637
I think IRyS being MiA greatly hurt her music sales. As Holos stream they passively sell more merch.

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>>17909483
Now that Miko does weekend RPGs she won’t have that huge buffer. Not to mention she doesn’t pull in 40k for random streams anymore and just does 2 hour streams+takes more breaks now.
Also she’s incapable of beating Aqua.

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>>17909578
How in the world has Mumei inclined so hard considering how few hours she streams? Is it clippers?

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>>17909597
Waiting, thanks.

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>>17909725
she joined a lot of streams not in her channel, so it helps with the marketing

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>>17909564
There were dozins that tried their hand at the morning show,
Nazuna for VSPO, Hayase for Nijisanji and a bunch of indies tried it, but none came close to the entertainment factor, the memes and the actual level of (shit) information presented. It was literally killing her health though, so i don't expect Coco to try to replicate that.
I'll give Nazuna's at least that it was also a call in, so it replicated the box push in VSPO, bringing all the members in.

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>>17909725
Mumei's demeanor makes her a very good target for clippers. This means she is also very memeable for those that visit reddit. She will drop unarchived karaokes often and those always bring in big numbers.

>>17909712
Its tough when you can't promote your music via streaming because you killed your throat in the process of making that same EP.

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>>17909637
Sana had like a 5-6k boost around when she won the pokemon tourney.

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>>17909725
She's an extrovert and a total troll who meshes well with everyone. The only thing holding her back is she doesn't stream often.

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>>17909932
Something I find weird is that they didn’t go the route of doing a “full pack”. I noticed while gathering the data that a certain amount of fans will buy the full pack regardless of what’s in it. So not giving them that option means they will tend to buy less.

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>>17909578
Hate how the only thing holding Kronii up is her early number boost (and audience) and her voice. If she didn't have that she would be Sana level.

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>>17909564
There were dozens that tried their hand at the morning/ meme news show.
Nazuna for VSPO, Hayase for Nijisanji and a bunch of indies tried it, but none came close to the entertainment factor, the memes and the actual level of (shit) information presented. It was literally killing Coco's health though, so i don't expect her to try to replicate that.
I'll give Nazuna's at least that it was also a call in, so it got the box push going for VSPO, bringing all the members in.

If anyone Koyori could do the Ark updates during her morning stream, since she is in the game so long, she'd probably see what's up.

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>>17909564
Hololive needs more 'comedians'

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>>17909722
>>17909483
She have nothing to hype up. The only she have at her disposal right now is the PVP event she want to do with Aki and even that would depend on if management will agree to enable PVP

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>>17909898
I think most people would've been satisfied with Asacoco just on Monday. After the chinkout she did try multiple schedules, like 3 times a week and eventually once a week before giving up after the hangman yab.
There's no one really close to her level of memery+degeneracy+creativeness right now desu.
And it wasn't JUST the news, it was all the side programs and the hilarious Asacoco commercials which made it legendary status.
> tfw there's probably newfags watching chuubas that have never watched the original Asacoco CMs.

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/#/ is declining.

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>>17910099
C'mon, even as a hater, you know she wouldn't.
>very recognizable voice
>model
>played persona
>personality
>memorable interactions with other members.
Out of everyone in EN, she (and Gura) could easily go the Ayame route of streaming rarely and still be present in people's minds, in memes and clips.

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>>17909309
ARK pulls better numbers than Minecraft though

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>>17910237
hey man

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>>17910315
Only for low and mid tier Holos.

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>>17910315
You can post some number to back that up just saying

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>>17909554
Who the fuck is 0214?

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>>17910315
Fuck no, MC hype will never be topped

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>>17909554
She play the game so much but refuse to collab with other ARK autist for the numbers
Where’s my number rabbit? You guys fucking lied to me

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>>17910099
This just proves that making a strong impact during debut is important.

Council is interesting because it has 2 almost opposing types of streamers in the same gen. Bae who had a horrible start and is clawing her way up via hard word. Then there is Kronii who had one of the strongest starts a Holo could ever have, but clearly does not want to stream or buff herself in general.

I think the only comparison on the JP is gen 2 with Subaru/Ayame/Aqua I think. I was not watching Hololive until November 2019 so the only thing I experienced happen in real time was Subaru's incline. Ayame was already being Ayame, and I know Aqua put on the grind to claim her spot at the top of Holo.

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>>17909554
Only has herself to blame. Stays up all night not streaming but playing ARK, doesn’t stream next day, then stays up all night playing and not streaming ARK again. How can she be that stupid?

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>>17910611
Again, she’s a known Ark addict. Top 1 hour played in the last Ark arc and about to reach top 1 again
Addiction is no joke

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>>17910589
Bae’s debut probably hurt her the most. I recall people /here/ had very high expectations from her because of her “sister” and mama and she kinda fell flat because the lore/design did not match her personality.

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>>17910752
And the fact she’s trying to match the personality of her avatar instead of being herself does not help either

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>>17910500
choco

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>>17910879
Jesas

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>>17910737

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>>17910191
My bet is on management not allowing it. Even back in the Aberration days when Aqua didn't even want a war, just to be in different tribe from the other girls triggered the unityfags hard and made her quit the game. This is a risk that they have seen beforehand and I doubt they're thrilled to grant it.

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>>17911156
One positive thing I can say about this is that she definitely will snap out of it eventually. Just like in the first Ark arc
Hope her number can atleast hold up until then, then she can make a comeback

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>>17910838
>How to say you haven't watched Bae without explicitly saying it

Bae has mellowed out since the end of November. Does Bae still oversell reactions sometimes? Absolutely. However, what people keep doing is taking any instance of Bae being excited and going "oh my gawd why is she forcing herself to be chaos".

Will she mellow up more later? Who knows. But she has stated that she doesn't like presenting herself as low energy all the time. Currently Bae is more closer to a Shion/Subaru hybrid at this point than a Ollie clone.

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>>17911230
why is it always aqua that ends up getting bullied out of everything

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>>17911230
I mean afterall, something like that require the approval of everyone playing on the server
I doubt Aki and Pekora will get their approval since I can’t see anyone beside Pekora liking the idea of a server-wide war. But that also mean Pekora would run out of card to play

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>>17911298
She bites on bait so it empowers antis even more

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>>17911298
It’s easier to bully her compare to other Holo I think

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>>17911383
yeah she's an easy target

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>>17910589
It’s true that Kronii wants to do her own thing and that’ll have an effect on her ccv, but we truly don’t know how hard she’s being hit by ccvid. We know people like Gura and Irys etc. are badly hurt by it, but Kronii probably has it the worst of all of Council. Remember her NY outfit that had over 40k people waiting but took her like what, 20 mins or something to break the waiting room? Or the genderbent council vod that had. 15k waiting room but legit could not break 16k-17k for over an hour, yet has some of the highest views in recent memory across all of hololive for a vod of its length (it had more views after processing than Lui’s 60k ccv collab had, and still has WAY more total views compared to it right now.) she’s been getting repeatedly hit with these bombs so it’s hard to accurately judge where she stands, but she’s arguably one of the most popular faces in hololive right now. We all want her to become more than what she is obviously but no one should write her off as a failure or anything of that stretch

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Why is holoEN starting Ark for real? Just look at Gura’s VOD views ffs.

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>>17911428
Only Council schizos would label Kronii as a failure. What most of us want is simply a consistent Kronii that isn't afraid to stream what she likes. It's frustrating to see someone with so much potential squander it away, even moreso if you're actually a fan.

Now Sana on the other hand...

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>>17911428
i remember that Ollie had a strong debut and now ...

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>>17911330
Honestly with all those hours spent offstream she literally could've just make an army, stream herself diving into caves to extract the artifacts then be the first one to beat the boss. The numbers would've been funneled all the way to her. But no, she spent all those time for god knows why fucking around.

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>>17911492
Because JPs are doing it

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>>17911492
>>17911539
Whoops, should’ve been When*

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>>17911531
I think she is kind of exhausted already. When was the last time she take a break? No matter how much she love streaming, there gotta be a limit to it
A break would benefit her in a lot of way but you know she will never do that because of her watch time

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>>17911560
She was forced to promise

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>>17911510
Whatever happened to her anyways?
I recall she used to interact with e-celebs all the time.

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>>17911428
she just streams too late, most EN dont stream at east coast peak hours nowadays (7~11pm) where west coast and some of EU can still watch, JP time isnt terrible but i doubt nips whatch her at all, so shes left with pretty much just west coast.

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>>17911560
Hopefully never. Look at how much it hurting the JP numbers except Aki

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>>17911606
it's a yab machine, not so sure if that make her incline because i don't see any difference in her numbers

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>>17911428
Oh man, Koyo has almost the same VOD views for her outfit reveal as Kronii. Good doggo.

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>>17909373
Here you go.
1576 plushies sold.

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>>17911492
When is holoEN starting minecraft one block? Just look at gura's VOD ffs

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>>17911636
I agree in a sense but looking at her poll 10 days ago, it seems like people who tune in disagree more than agree. It’s a pretty huge poll too.
What I genuinely want out of her is to do chatting streams past noon in burger time, so like 2pm-3pm EST, and to go about her main stream later. I still don’t know why a single holo has yet to take that timeslot for really anything. Just 1-1 1/2 hour of chatting can bring in more activity on this shitty schedule situation EN puts themselves in

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>>17911768
MC one block is shit lol. Even though PekoMari get big number with it, they pretty much are separated after the first episode and only collab again to beat the dragon then get it all over with

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>>17911639
>Look at how much it hurting the JP numbers except Aki
Nah, other than Pekora everybody else is riding with their usual numbers or slightly buffed

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>>17911685
It’s too hard to compare the two because cover just pulled a giant bullshit scenario all around for everyone involved. An outfit relay for holox 1 month into their debut ON new years day, then the giant delayed outfit reveals for council when the hype had died down, 1st outfit or not. It was like halfway into January and shit.
But all 10 I’d say did pretty solid overall, given the circumstances for both.

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>>17911897
Damn this mean Pekora bad number was never because of the game itself
She shouldn’t have spammed it so much

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>>17911967
the only think i can get from this is that peko is boring playing ARK unlike the others girls...

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>>17912028
Because most of the others interact with each other while playing. The few times Pekora interacted like the Aki and Shuba moments, her numbers were big too.

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>>17911967
>Damn this mean Pekora bad number was never because of the game itself
She amassed a huge Minecraft-only audience that won't tune in for other games.

I used to be like this with some Rust regular Youtubers: I watched their "noobs try to raid my trap house and lose everything" videos and nothing else in their channels.
It's a mixed blessing: it buffs your signature game to high peaks but corners you out of other alternatives.

It is the same for Aqua and APEX, for instance

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>>17912028
Because she always play it alone. Other girls actively seek out each other for collabs and interaction while Pekora just running around doing things on her own
Ironically her best moment are always her interactions with other girls

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>>17911897
Wtf how do you search keyword in holostats

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>>17912071
>>17912113
welp...
playing an online game to not interat with your coworkers it's a little retarded

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>>17911897
Ehh it was mentioned in the other thread but essentially everyone barring the low-JP members are continuously dropping views on their ark videos as it progresses. It takes everyone about an extra hours worth of time to meet the same vod totals as their previous ark vods and even Peko’s recent ark was atrocious for her standards. That vod after processing had 290k views for 4 hours. That’s like giga trash for her.
There are some outliers there for sure, and the mid-holos are benefitting from it all. It’s just hard to judge properly right now

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>>17912125
On Firefox or Chrome
1) Open the Holostats page you want
2) Scroll scroll scroll scroll to reveal the set you want to filter
3) Press F12
4) Click Console
5) Paste this magic incantation and press enter

> var arr = []; for (var doc of document.getElementsByClassName("stream-item")) { if (!((doc.innerText.match(/ark/i)))) { arr.push(doc); }}; for (var doc of arr) { doc.remove(); };

Replace ark with whatever you want to search.

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>>17912128
Lol you clearly don’t watch enough Peko, she have always been like this
Most of her interactions with other Holo are initiated by the other party, or Pekora randomly ran into them (Except that one time with Sana). Pekora never initiate a collab, ever

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>>17911967
She gets the best numbers out of anyone with ARK

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>>17912246
Bro that is because her core number is big…The point is she doesn’t get as much buff out of it as other Holo

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>>17912128
Sure, no one really cares about ARK but the interactions. She got 30k doing nothing but stalk Aki.

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>>17911897
>Subaru
>14k
>not garbage
Ok

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>>17912211
Yep, PekoMoona only happened because Moona stalked Pekora "gold trap" site and asked "what can I do to help" and when she finished she asked "and now, what else" and so on and so forth until Pekora got used to the fact Moona wasn't going anywhere

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>>17912309
I miss when Moona used to follow Pekora like an obedient pet. She would most likely do anything Pekora asked back then

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Maybe Coco's master plan was to destroy hololive by getting everyone addicted to Ark. She even made Gura promised to play it ffs.

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>>17912277
She’s literally the only one that breaks 20k with it every time. Botan MC used to be able to break 25k regularly whereas she gets 15k now on a good day in ARK

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>>17912296
I don't know where you are seeing 14k but don't let Subaru recent incline fool you: she can get plenty of sub 20k streams when she steps out of her signature streams, specially in multiPOV collabs

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>>17912476
That 24k was only when she was interacting with Pekora. Her ARK numbers are shit

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>>17911759
almost a fucking million $. Number rabbit I kneel!

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>>17911897
Like some of those are buff numbers but just as many are getting their normal numbers or even less.

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>>17912609
Not gonna lie, that nousagi plush is unironically one of the more normal merch in Hololive. You can literally buy that as gift for a child
On the other side we have Aqua’s terrorist getup as merch

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>>17911897
Where are the buffs? They all get better views in MC

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>>17912673
She already got NEKO and her own plush as merch though? (Granted that NEKO plush might be nightmare fuel)

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>>17912616
>>17912688
Buffed: Nene, Choco, Aki,
Par: HoloX, Noel, Polka
The rest is under par

>They all get better views in MC
While that's true there are very few things that would make this sentence false

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>>17912609
I wonder if she will reach 1 million sales. Sales dramatically ramp up within the last 24 hours.
Towa/Ame sold 600+ full sets in the final 24 hours.

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>>17912764
Fuck what is the funniest Yagoo merch pic again? I remember the Sankisei merch pic where he raise the glowstick to the camera

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>>17910534
>Pekora 44k
>Subaru 33k
>Gura 26k
>Kronii 17k
>Mumei 13k
Holy shit Minecraft I fucking kneel

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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS HERE*

Here it goes
>9,914: Baelz (Hololive)
>9,162: Amelia (Hololive)
>9,039: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,699: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>6,695: Fauna (Hololive)
>6,275: Vox (Nijisanji)

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>>17912890
And that Pekora wasn’t even an EN tour. She just go around EN server doing random shits
It’s all her

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>>17912942
what's next?
And ID tally?

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>>17912841
Shions clock/alarm had a feature to sound at an absolute random time, resembling her stream inconsistency.

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>>17912970
She wanted to set up pranks for EN little did she know EN doesn't play the server so that went nowhere.

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>>17913063
kek

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>>17912942
Bae has mad this list everyday and has even taken 2 golds since you started doing it. If we were running medals as a point system she would be #2 only behind Gura in points.

RAT INCLINING!!!!!

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>>17912986

>And ID tally?

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS HERE*

Here it goes
>2,787: Ollie (Hololive)
>2,058: Moona (Hololive)
>1,804: Reine (Hololive)
>1,253: Mika (Nijisanji)
>1,143: Risu (Hololive)
>964: Hana (Nijisanji)
>640: Iofi (Hololive)

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>>17912942
commit the rope

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>>17913128
Heh. Well I find that endearing. In a way, Pekora making trap for people is a way for her to interact with them passively. She certainly want to interacts with fellow Holos but can’t bring herself to just ask for collab so that is her way of communicating

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>>17913389

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Now this look like actual football. We have the World Cup and then actual regional cup

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>>17913514
>Now this look like actual football. We have the World Cup and then actual regional cup
Except in this case there is the World Cup and the "African World Cup" created to allow countries that are not competitive to say they won a "World Cup".

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Pekora could have had ~15-20k people watch her play ARK for the past 5 hours but instead does it offstream.

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>>17913389
Zoombie strong!!

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>>17913671

It's too early in JP by now to have this much people watching

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>>17913630
Is there gonna be a Holostars ranking then?

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>>17913671
could she get away with not interacting with chat at all?

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>>17913755
Many (if not most) in this thread loath the idea of "tallest midget competitions".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17913745
Rushia got 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>17913755
I encourage you do it. I'll always take more actual numbers over more timeloops and baits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17913745
>>17914002
Even Choco is keeping 5k+ right now

[Anonymous No.]

Finana is surely swimming upstream with Honkai while Elira is pulling 3k+ with Yugioh

[Anonymous No.]

>>17912942
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>17914096
>>17914230
Also: a testament of how strong HoloJP is is the fact Choco, one of the lowest ranked JP streamers, is absolutely dwarfing eveybody else in this slot

[Anonymous No.]

>>17914082
You don't seem to understand how these threads work if you think that won't make more timeloops and bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17914002

Her stream started at midnight and peaked at 12k early with funnels from other Ark streams. Peko is strong but she wouldn't get 20k out of nowhere at this slot

[Anonymous No.]

>>17914330
Holy shit is that the next kuzuha? The Edengumi ace!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17912942
for tomorrow
>nijisanji
>nijisanji
>nijisanji
>Mori collab with reine
>nijisanji
>nijisanji
>nijisanji
>nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

Is Holodex broken? Where are all the HoloEN streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17913389
Nijisanji's uber leech is doing well for herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915192
No one but Bae is streaming and she hasn't put a waiting room up yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>Holodex and HoloStats show nothing on their schedule for HoloEN

Is there really no HoloEN stream for today, at
all?

WTF?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17912890
JP portal arc was simply one of the best EN arc, everyone consistently getting 10k+ with all the impromptu collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915329
Gura sick, Ame ???, Ina no internet, Mori already streamed, Kiara on her vacation
Apparently Fauna and Sana are busy?, Kronii no PC, Mumei ???, Bae hardcarrying

[Anonymous No.]

I'm watching Elira and it's not fun to watch someone be a complete retard. Wish holos could stream Master Duel so I don't have to watch nijis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915443
Is she a cute retard at least?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915397
&IRys...

[Anonymous No.]

the holoEN stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_rQ90Nw87k
she even translates every title for you lazy asses

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915329

Now thinking about it, they probably are not releasing any gens before HoloFest, right? This month has so many free days without any Holo celebration. Could be perfect to do debuts..

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915553
I was wondering if we were going to have THAT timeloop again when I realized there isn't a single EN streaming today. How is this acceptable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915605
>how is this acceptable
lol who the fuck do you think you are to be talking down on pink fox

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915329
theres bae jump king again probaly

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915397
>11 chubbas and 80% has problems to stream
JESAS

[Anonymous No.]

If Koyo shifts the morning timeslot back 30mins like Asamio, this could potentially be a consistent 10k program. The number always inclines till the end since people are still waking up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915580
Could be a perfect time to use the HoloEN YouTube channel, if only they had a creative team for such things

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915397
>>17915774
JP side has more backup but there is the share of casualties there too, be it seasonal respiratory diseases, throat issues, mental health issues or school.

The problem with EN is not the forced absences, is the elective ones when there was nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

Ah i got it, HoloEN members are protesting the MCN act for pausing their membership.

[Anonymous No.]

Just graduate all of EN already jesus wept, the rat can stay as KR Gen 0

[Anonymous No.]

the esl is still trying to pass for a burger kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915519
Cute black

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915925
they are probably doing something for vantines behind the scenes, my speculation is sana learning 3D modeling for walfie-like council, and rest doing a group music video or something, (proof next thread)

[Anonymous No.]

Now that the dust has settled: Nene won the outfit bowl, didn’t she?
She squeezes the hardest incline from her accessory, followed by Botan (which stacked a health issue on top of it, to collect on her return), then Lamy then
>[POWER GAP]
then Polka

[Anonymous No.]

I mean it's no surprise that NijiEN is winning when the schedule is this bare. Where did it go wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916092
>they are probably doing something for
Anon, out of the very single EN content drought, when did they ever came back with something big and lasting enough to justify the lull?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17915922
>JP has more backup
This is an understatement. JP has more than 3x the members as EN, so a few people taking breaks does not matter at all for them. Marine could graduate tomorrow and no one would even notice because she's streamed like 10 times over the past 4 months. Same with Ayame/Shion/similar cases
It's just a problem to people when EN does it because the people here for whatever reason take it personally. Like Kronii not being around for a day will make people act like an angry boyfriend who's waiting for a response. People just see it as way more personal when there's only 11 available

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916104
Lamys is comfier, makes me want to snuggle her

[Anonymous No.]

Choco lost a cool thousand when Koyori came in. Interestingly enough this transition will a ensure an unbroken funnel from the day before to the next, with Choco holding the stargate open from the post primetime to the JP morning

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916204
EN desperately needs a motivated Gen 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916143
not all EN but ame drought got 3D halloween and christmas, im only saying that because Council is saying they are working on stuff, myth is just mia.

[Anonymous No.]

go flare go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916221
Go to sleep buton

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916247
We are so close to 24/7 Holo JP streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916247
Choco, you did well. Please release the funnel to Pink Dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916250
You missed the point entirely. EN doesn't need a motivated gen to enter to solve the issue. The issue is just what was said: People target individual members of EN when breaks occur and attack them for it, when JP members have been doing this for a year now. Shion and Ayame barely stream, to a point that it's laughable, but it's more so meme'd on than it is looked at like they're ruining JP. It's similar to other cases. Nene took a 2-3 week break from streaming, Marine barely streams, people take days off, it doesn't matter because there's way more people to fill in streams.
You can have a lazy gen 3 and it'd still "solve" the issue because inevitably, someone is going to end up streaming while others are away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916487
once again, we come to the same conclusion every time, en3 needs to come faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916541
Look at the empty schedule...
All the poor HoloEN viewers are waiting for someone. IRyS/ Bae please save them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916204
>JP has more than 3x the members as EN
After HoloX debuted I agree with you but before that you had
>Gen 0: Sora is infrequent, Suisei and Miko are consistent but both had health issues and had to take extended leaves, Roboco is consistent
>Gen 1: Haachama, Mel and Aki are mostly absent, Matsuri had a huge period of inconsistency and Fubuki hard carried
>Gen 2: Ayame is consistent in her absence, Shion and Aqua were inconsistent for most of the year, Choco has ups and downs, Subaru hard carried the generation for most of 2021
>Gamers: lost Mio for a stretch of 2020 and Korone for a stretch of 2021. Okayu is a rock
>Gen 3: the only well rounded gen with five consistent numbers for the most part
>Gen 4: got culled from 5 to 4, but they’re generally consistent
>Gen 5: got culled from 5 to 4, with Polka being terribly inconsistent

In the last few months there was not a single period when at very least one (usually two) members of each gen were not away for one reason or another, with two gens being down one member permanently and another two (Gen 1 and 2) being down a member more often than not.

The thing is: JP actually feel the urge to fill the holes and avoid leaving dead air. Open slots are viewed as opportunities, like Shion moving into the old late night Watame slot when the later was busy with idol reps and getting easy 18k, 20k

[Anonymous No.]

koyorin is at her usual 8k for asakoyo, normal day

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916879
Waiting room strat keeps delivering!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916487
>Ayame barely stream
Ayame had a three years old career before the first member of council even debuted, a career so successful her odd one or two monthly streams gets a higher audience, a higher revenue and a higher share of merchandise sold than any of the Council members.
She has nothing to prove and if she “soft retires” and continue doing exactly what she does now, the odd stream once or twice a month everybody will be absolutely grateful she even graces our lowly maggots with her presence instead of simply graduating and going to rest.

She could do that after a full successful trailblazer career coming from a period vtubers celebrated 100k subs as the apex of the streamer career and nobody would even have a single word of condemnation for her, even anons in this site and board would pay their respects.

Sana? Kronii? The least that was expected from them was
> pick up some of the slack from the Myth girls so there is no dead air in EN prime time
They didn’t need to do much. Fire up a stream, play fucking slither.io or Fall Guys for all the audience cares (a goto “default” stream for the JP audience), run the snake around for 50 min, read superchat for 20 and call it a day after a hour and a bit, bridging the gap between Ina and Kiara’s early streams and Gura and Ame late ones.

The fact they couldn’t do even that is a demerit for them, something they can’t hide behind “Ayame streams even less”.
Of course management shares a part of the blame here but with the massive talent Sana and Kronii have in their respective trades, to fail to put it to good use is almost criminal

[Anonymous No.]

>Fucking kek
Yozora Mel mama Ayamy’s husband’s black daughter

[Anonymous No.]

>>17912942
you're doing this to yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmfS6_3En5c
Rushia is also doing a gacha stream tomorrow, everyone's wallets are fucked

[Anonymous No.]

Elira 4k!! NijiEN females inclining!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917460
how can we include twich numbers with youtube...

[Anonymous No.]

Stinky Orca VS Onyan VS Yandere Wife.
Who will win the Gacha for SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917816
This but unironically. Even Reimu is over 1k median for the first 7 days of February

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917821
We don't. We just drop the EN gold bs.

Or we wait for Holo_data to include the channels in his new tracking site.

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN is reclining...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917838

If Aqua can attract the same amount of Apex Gacha tourists that Matsuri gets or a even bigger crowd, oh boy....

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917849
Males have actually brought more eyes / weight to the brand. Plus Holos leaving an open field half the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917301
She's laying out the money, youtube ads, reddit ads, I bet she has twitter ads too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917460
Twitch numbers are a meme and will never be taken seriously. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917109
Ayame used to stream a lot more than Council. I mean look at this shit, she streamed like 50 times in March and April of 2019.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918073
HoloEN management aren't even competitive

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918005
But Matsuri groomed her viewers into giving her their money during gacha sessions. I still expect at least a million yen each for 3 gachas though or they have failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918119

Ojou...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916250
Unmotivated talent didn't hire themselves. EN needs better recruiters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917460
LILPA INCLINING!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17916204
Ayame and Shion earned their laziness since they actually streamed when they were starting out. Council doesn't have the pedigree or years of work for people to give them a benefit of a doubt. I have yet to see a council member stream 50 times in 2 months.

[Anonymous No.]

Go Stinky Orca go. 3 red supers already 12 hours before the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918406
>Its ok when Japan does it
Listen to yourself. You are a parody at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

back to

[Anonymous No.]

>>17917460
Lilpa I kneel...
RIP Niji KR though

[Anonymous No.]

>Rushia liking valorant videos
Well thank you Lap, very cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918547
It's about results, not it being "ok". Ayame can do it and still pull numbers because she has built up an audience over years. Council can't because now is the time they are meant to be building their audience, and they are squandering it.

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>>17916487
And what the excuses for kronii constantly played Minecraft on other people channel back then when she could streamed her pov?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918119
Newfags these days won't know that Ayame used to be an fps streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918833
Oh really? What if I tell you that they are newfags that don't know that Noel and Luna used to be Souls streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918073
Why do they hate the 6 pm EST time slot so much? Ame is the only one willing to stream in it. Of course this is the same company that keeps hiring people operating on Eastern hemisphere timezones for their EN branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918547
>it's okay for someone who white knuckled it when the company was worth 6 figures to take legacy laps when the company she helped build is worth 80 times as much
Yes. Council has never been a work horse for a company trying to make it, they've been lazy bums for a big corpo and haven't built a damn thing. Manji-gumi meant something and was a hallmark of hololive in the post ero apocalypse, Council isn't the hallmark of even HoloEN counter programing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918547
Anon, if Elon Musk decides to take a five year “sabbatical” to retreat into a mountain complex and do nothing but try to create catgirls he’s entitled to: the three companies he was part of the foundation (PayPal, SpaceX, Tesla) are resounding successes beyond anything most people will ever have the chance to even aspire.
The same obviously doesn’t apply to the junior engineer on SpaceX team that just got hired

[Anonymous No.]

Nimu has now passed Subaru, making it her 5th day in a row where she has gained at least 10k subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919709

whein is reimu doing a doxx to incline like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919709
Showing her thighs surely helped
>webm unrelated but representative

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919793
FLARE TIER THIGHSSSSSSSSS

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918089
>The point
You're starting to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919793
who is this semen demon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918997
Anon... Gura streamed Bully at 5 pm EST and had some of her worst numbers this year. Her all-time low CCV wise was also during that timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919856
Continuity is important. If there was a guarantee that she would stream on that slot (let’s say) once a week (like Pekora noon weekends) an audience would form around it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918997
its too late for EU, far too early for JP, and slightly too early for NA.
i'm not sure what group is active at that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919958
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919848
@itseunchaeofficial

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919793
So the new model was for more accurate 3D tracking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920033
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920040
Unironically yes, except it’s “under-architected”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920033
助かる!

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN 11 people:
No one is streaming now.
Holyshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920040
holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

Surely you have some coin invested in NijiEN, right anon?
>b-but outfit
>b-but song
only the first three have that buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>17919952
She already has the 8 pm slot firmly secured; I do agree some Council member should grab it tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920225
Note: I stopped on the new channels because there's not enough data points as you can see with Nina, everyone is still inclining though

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920195
if there is a 50% to have one streaming
for eleven to be absent is 0.049%

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920040
>>17920197
Gotta say Nimu is thicc but she’s Kate fucking Moss compared to Polka (or architect dream come true, Honma)
God bless whoever rigged her model

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920225
Yugioh doing wonders for Rosemi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920225
Note 2:
I'm lazy, but for holoEN
>Kiara is ogay, stream consistently and for a lot of hours, line flat
>Mori music carry, her solo stream numbers are extreme shit but doesn't matter, like 70% of her streams are collabs in her channel
>Ina on a slight decline, at least she can excuse herself because of work + she still laps sana on streamed times/hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920459
oops, forgot about Ame, she has been experiencing a notable decline, the 3D events surely boost her but each time it's having a smaller effect, I don't see her coming back to her debut days either, seems like she's satisfied with the numbers that commissioning stuff gives her

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920195
Blame thhe EN management that hired them. If they were stuck hiring 6 talents a year, why didn't they hire full-time streamers? If they can afford to hire more than six a year, then haven't they? What's the gameplan, hire a bunch of streamers that don't like streaming and leech off the brand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920459
C-Chikin sama!

Not even kidding, I take it all back, the whole “Kiara debuff field” thing. She is the pillar of her branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920556
>Blame thhe EN management that hired them
Anon, that’s retarded
>everything is at fault but the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920568
I Kneel to the chicken. I would never know how doomed EN is until she stopped streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920568
unironically this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920568
>>17920661
Kiara…
>I’m sorry!

COME BACK, I KNEEL!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920849
Zero....

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920459
why skip all the holos that are going up?

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, fuck it, here's council
>Irys is slowly dying, not even all the music cover paid for her is working + no costume buff
>Bae started picking up the pace bc birthday but otherwise, she would be on a decline, hardworking and streaming consistently gives views, surprising, I know
>Mumei incline, no school holiday buff, about to end her streak tho
>Kronii absolutely killed her momentum, not even outfit + song buff could incline her
>Fauna started to pick up, seems like investing in your job does wonders too, she will get back her investment soon
>Sana is fucking dead holy shit, extreme failure

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920794
Me too, fellow handsome kneeler, I as well kneel to Kiara!

[Anonymous No.]

No HoloEN stream? no problem
Its Lamy timeslot anyway, ARK with polka!!
https://youtu.be/i-2xiWj9vAw

[Anonymous No.]

>>17918833
An eternity ago. People were calling out her low stream time since early 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

Flare's butt is not for sniffing
only spanking, by me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920938
i dont understand how hard you can drop the ball like kronii did its amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920568
>>17920459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb4lUOviCXY

[Anonymous No.]

>Lamy and Polka Ark collab
>Lamy waiting room up for many hours prior to the stream
>Stream starts, everyone gathers to her stream
>Almost 10 minutes after the collab started Polka goes 'Ah but I will have a stream too'
>Tweet last minute her own pov

she reminds me of ame sometimes.. the hate for numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920938
>Mumei and Fauna carrying council in their back

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921046
>Flare's butt is not for sniffing
anon, this is /#/..

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920911
Same reason they want you to ignore song and outfit boosts for Nijis yet want to frame Mori as having shit solo streams when she still pulls much higher stream numbers than any of the Niji girls. In other words... it's bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920459
That Ina chart looks weird to me...or at least, it feels like it's off by a month. I'm pretty sure the void month should be Nov 2021 (missing the first half of the month), and December should've been carried pretty hard by the outfit + Tabi no Tochuu cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920938
Moomers inclining nice....

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920995
kek
it really is Lamy morning stream timeslot

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921101
Bae about to become Kiara, unless she drops the momentum after finishing her challenge of streaming every day which would be stupid, pretty sure she knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921091
at least she willing to stream her pov unlike Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920938
>Sana is fucking dead holy shit, extreme failure
Amazing how she can barely stream, still pull comparable numbers to the niji girls who are doing more hours yet still get labeled as an extreme failure by comparison. I know you're doing your best nijifag, but it's not very good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921172
detailed (*) view

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921249
first time witnessed what holo brand does to streamer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921249
Well, Sana has less views than every NijiEN on >>17920225 graph except Petra, that should tell you something

[Anonymous No.]

I know polls arent really a thing anymore to keep track of but i was watching a twitch streamer, he slapped a poll up for like 5 minutes with 11k viewers and got 4k votes in that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921319
And Petra didn't had any song or new outfit like Sana, that's extremely worrying

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921319
Work on your reading comprehension.
>Amazing how she can barely stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921069
I honestly think she hated being super popular and tried to debuff herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921214
remember when people told baelz to take it easy because her 2view mentality still stuck even when she already joined holos? to stop her from burned out?
then people reminded by holox ex 2view crazy grind after debut kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921422
it's the model and the boobs. makes her uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/yTb_AvLchgY
Laplus cover just got 8mi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921454
HoloX is fucking amazing for JP, they are not cannibalizing the viewers of the already established streamers, in fact, they are bringing new viewers and growing the box
Council in comparison suffers from the overlaps because all they did was to appeal to the already established people that watch holoEN, the box is roughly the same size
It doesn't help that Gura lives in her own world and has a monopoly of the best timeslot (she kinda worked for it so it's fine)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921551
>in fact, they are bringing new viewers and growing the box
Proof to that was Iroha overlapping gold of the day, silver of the day, bronze of the day and never falling below 10k

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck happened to Kuzuha, bros? Is it really true that the NijiEN males stole his fans? He only ranked 73rd for Jan 2022 super chat income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921252
Huh, I guess the Pokemon streams at the tail end of November completely compensated for the void in the first half, with that peak at the Dec-ish point being Tabi no Tochuu? The coughing break also seems to show up in the appropriate spot. Although even eyeballing that graph, I'm still not sure how this shows Dec 2021 doing worse than Jan 2021; mid-late Dec looks roughly equal to early-mid Jan, but there's a buff spike early Dec, and a debuff spike late Jan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921551
Honestly, to hell with Gura and her timeslot. Stream at your optimal time and be counter programing, it's not like chumbuds will watch you to begin with. People streamer over Peckers all the damn time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921650
Who's that at 14th?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921613
Holox box pushing Roboco to 16k is just amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921650
>rushia powergap
what a strong woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921551
Council are literally the gen 5 of EN but no one ever blasts gen 5 for not expanding the audience and just being leeches

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921660
*Jan 2022, fuck it's been a month and I still can't get the year right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921366
The Nijis streamed 5+ times a week.
Sana streamed 12 times in the past 60 days.
All she would have to do to catch up is stream more than 1-2 times a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17920459
>>Mori solo stream numbers are extreme shit
anon, you could have finished your point without straight up lying.
We all know Mori was an 8k avg streamer last year and 10k avg during her most buzzy Q4 - On par with Ina and Irys and mid JP level.
Even her lower tier streams like 8th part of Earthbound and Superchat readings were at least 3k, usually 5k. Nowhere near shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921675
I feel that most of council live on west coast side so they usually stream on west coast prime time.
Sometimes I forgot that even US mainland has four timezones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921675
Example #253 of chumbuds only watching Gura. At this point I'd park my ass hard on the 8-10PM EST / 5-7PM PST timeslot regardless of whether Gura streams or not. Might as well give yourself the best chance by streaming at the best hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921797
>at least 3k
>Nowhere near shit
This really your second biggest talent ENfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921702
Aloe death kinda give a pass for gen5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921913
No it doesn't, that's just cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921867
Imagine Marine, Miko or Subaru having a 3k stream. JPchads will burn all of Youtube. Meanwhile ENfags will defend their shit tier viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921869
Everyone went back to watching Pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have that edited Spider-man panel where the Dinosaur dude goes alone the line of "I JUST WANT TO DESTROY IDOL CULTURE" or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921913
Then Council gets a pass for Sana, who functionally less useful than Aloe's corpse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921869
It also would help by getting undecideds and people who are fickle some choices. Keep people watching and have something to watch, it's a fucking embarrassment. Regardless of averages or culling the fact that no one is on so often is bad. I don't care if every HoloEN streamer averages 40k CCV, it don't mean shit if they aren't on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921867
>For superchat reading.
For people in her avg range, even higher, we've seen Rushia 3k, Flare 2k and Chloe 1k way more than once or twice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922005

no

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922005
kek
fuck you teehe

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921702
Swing from a goddamn tree, that is a retarded take. gen5 works hard and with Botan's profile, Nene's hard work, Lamy always streaming in low quality time slots, and Polka connections they have done more for Hololive in their first few months than Council ever will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921955
>>17922054
>responding to obvious bait

[Anonymous No.]

0 HoloEn stream today. Sasuga lazy branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>Lamy will break 10k in the "viewer poison" timeslot
schizo status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922054
Flare bros! We did it, she is comparable to the 2nd best EN member!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922054
she has more subs than ANY other holo that's not Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921702
>Gen 5 skitzo pretending he's not the Gen 5 skitzo
At least you've learned some subtlety.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922005
rude

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922115
>

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922016
This is true. Sometimes the streamer I like to watch isn't playing a game I'm interested in, but another one that I don't watch as often will be playing a game that I find really interesting. Choice is good as long as not everyone decides to stream at the same time.

Also isnt Bae supposed to be streaming today. Was a frame posted up yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>back to unironically discussing EN ccv like its accurate
WeNeverLearn.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922103
gen5 schizo still going so.. i guess gen 5 still getting good number today

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922093
Yet Council mogs them in vods/video for all that """hard work"""

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922168
No EN streaming does that to you. Let's just call this timeslot Lamy morning stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922101
0 streams in general, these hours are no man's land. It's like vtubers don't want me to watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922115
That stream was literally at 7AM EST/4AM PST of a Monday, aka start of the work week.
No shit its got trash numbers streaming in that timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921869
yes, dont know why no one does, gets both east and west relative good times, dont know why so many en streams are past midnight east coast nowadays, makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922209
Lamy has been streaming in this timeslot since her debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921869
You'd have a better case if it was one of the other myth members, Ame's the most generic and dull of bunch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922168
>CCV
No, this is about actually streaming. It doesn't matter how much they pull if they aren't even on. Anything is better than 0.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922112

LETS GOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922209
Let's just call this time slot "obsessed about EN streams even though we hate EN" with a dash of "raving Nijis bragging about mediocre numbers". In fact, they're the same people, even the nijis come to discuss their numbers in the context of HoloEn.

[Anonymous No.]

They keep coming here because you keep responding to bad bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922234
I know you're trying to make an excuse for Mori here but that's one of her usual time slots. The other one being afternoon JST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922093
>meanwhile Sana single-handedly does more for the company than all of gen 5 by being a super famous artist doing in-house work

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922262
Is it?
>>17922152
>>17922115
>>17922054
>>17921955
>>17921867
>>17921797

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, Nijisanji AD's in Japan are in another level
https://twitter.com/24_lv/status/1490563524896215042
>1.2M views
they are still going strong

[Anonymous No.]

There he goes samefagging replies now

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922161
Her stream will be night time JST as she is doing recording work for the day. So frame will be up later.

[Anonymous No.]

it fucking astonishes me you can have 6 streamers living in NA timeslots and all of them either have issues that prevent them from or just dont want to fucking stream this time slot right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922329
all me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922276
>obsessed about EN streams
Anon, WHICH FUCKING STREAMS?

I’m actually waiting eagerly to see if anon will make the “EN GOLD TALLY” tomorrow when there will only be NijiEN streams on the tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922375

i will do it instead, don't worry

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922375
this is the tally rn
Bae and Mori have a stream still today (in JST) but that's literally it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922375
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922375
hey! b-baelz will get like 6k, theres your gold!! she promised feb full of stream!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922375
the true purpose of the EN gold will be revealed

[Anonymous No.]

>blaming the girls for not streaming when Cover management dumbfuckery in not getting them permissions and generally just treating them like a side branch when it comes to priorities has demoralized them and made them jaded
You're all retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922423
>JST time
Prepare for ManjisanjiEN to mog them and EN gold tally to be hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
This. Blame anyone except for the girls please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922366
NA has four timezones. NA doesn't like JP that only has one timezone.
Still nobody stream until now is bad. I hope management hire more east coast people

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922493
corpo shill

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
are you retarded? they don't need to appease Cover for anything, DO IT FOR YOURSELF
>b-but they made me depressed uwu
It's your fucking job

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
Work of a streamer or vtuber is to be creative, even if you dont have permissions of games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
Lamy is playing Ark and getting decent numbers. What is ENs excuse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
Shut up, retarded Nijifag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
Why didn't they become/stay indies then where they can play anything they want without restrictions? Oh wait we know the reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922522
They're getting enough money and success, why do they need to try harder for a company that doesn't give two shits about them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
>it's actually the company's fault
>willingly stay
unless any of them graduate (coof coof mori) it means theay are ok with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922423
EN gold guy here and none of those streams would make the list. The Vox stream was for yesterday and the baseline is 5k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
>GIVE ME A H
>GIVE ME A O
>GIVE ME A L
>GIVE ME A O
>GIVE ME A E
>GIVE ME A Ñ
>GIVE ME A Ç
>GIVE ME A O
>GIVE ME A E
>GIVE ME A P

WHAT DOES IT SPELL!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922505
councilkeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922563
hopefully, NijiEN is actually working + their company is doing better with game permissions

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922590
>Ñ
spic anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922535
ARK is a shit game watched by retards. Mumei can't even have history streams or play Civ and here you are deflecting by telling her to play a trash game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922256
The point is that HoloJP will always have some people trickle down to anyone available due to box pushing.

Chumbuds are only dedicated to watching Gura. They are so dedicated to watching Gura, and only Gura that we've noticed she gets fewer numbers in collab streams than solo.

Since we know how chumbuds function, we can just treat it like she doesn't exist and safely stream on top of her hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922627
the spanish keyboard has a dedicated key for that character and it's separated from the N

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
Hello gen 5 schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922613
For fuck sake, fucking Choco Sensei was mogging the entirety of Nijisanji (and assorted midgets) playing Ark (FUCKING ARK) at 5 in the morning (see >>17914330)

IT IS ***NOT*** FUCKING PERMISSIONS

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922563
>They're getting enough money and success
they success because of the company brand
who are they before the Holo brand attached to them? yeah not so success and big money maker

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922294
And she has historically done poorly in that slot unless the stream is very JP centric.
Afternoon JST is her primary slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922664
Only a spic anon would know this fact. Burgerbros don't give a fuck about how other countries do their shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922630
You make it sound like Mumei is a gamer
Here's her game list this year.
>Minecraft
>Pokemon
She's a casual and she will never play anything except for normie games

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471
Haachama gives 0 fuck about games. She still did well while she was in Australia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922613
>permission
They are operating just like Hololive pre Holocaust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922664
no if you are using a laptop anonchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922627
>>17922664
KEK, next you’ll say I’ll someday be Japanese just because I can type 可愛いしでしょ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922707
they are sucessful because they are some of the best in the EN scene

[Anonymous No.]

will you believe me that the lack of promotions myth got is the result of them still not having 3D yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17921869
Something being in Gura's timeslot doesn't matter if Gura isn't even streaming and only stream 3 times a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922730
All countries with weird letters in their language have localized keyboards with said letters implemented into their layout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922664
Or you know, ALT+165
Ñ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922423
Here's your EN time gold, like always.

Looks like Lamy will be the only 10k+ streamer in this time period.
Apart from the 15k watching Ironmouse sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

How much longer until EN gen3 happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922471

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922830
What do you mean by promotions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922830
No it is more likely that sponsorship offer from the west or targeting west audience is less than the JP one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922862
June-July maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922832
Gura in the past 3 weeks before getting the coof has actually been incredibly consistent. Probably the most consistent she has been since ever. She is beating Pekora in total vod views during this time period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922862
Hopefully not soon, they need to take their time to get EN equivalent of holoX not council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922862
Cancelled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922862
auds opened late dec/early jan? Council auditions were mid Feb and they debuted 6 months after, possible delay due to Coco grad(?) so 5-6 months June-July for the next EN gen if they keep a similar time frame

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922859
>Looks like Lamy will be the only 10k+
how? and why? according to one (1) anon here she's a streamer from shitter gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922630
The people here obsessed with streaming hours are hilarious. Look at how grinding hours has helped Holostars, especially Aruran, incline!!! Look at all the 10 and 20k streams the NijiEN girls are getting!!!

Streaming long ass hours has never once been a good way to incline other than during the early days of vtubing when exposure was everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922830
i'll believe you. Mori would've been invited to concerts left and right like on VILLS if she got 3D. EN Hologra would've been a thing already and the PuP would be on preorder a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

WAMY 10K

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922973
It's the classic turtle vs hare story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922859
Don't be disingenuous, Elira is 10k if you account for the cull

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922862
>ge3 dream
1. Decently talented with no overlap between each other
2. Try to box push and make sure there is always 1 gen 3 streaming during key hours.
3. Ignore any advice that tells them not to work, there are thousands of vtubers trying to take any crumb they can
4. Go the HoloX route and sorta blow off omega troon's nonsense fiction cause he can't really fire you. Leave it to HoloEarth writers to create the metaverse
>>17922937
Still not every day and member streams don't count for this sorta analysis since they aren't for the general audience and the people who member are likely to choose member streams over anything else. You know who was more consistent than Gura is at her best? 2019 Ayame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923018
>>17922973
Lamy…

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922973
Lamy is not part of council anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922859
Elira getting 4k, god damn, nijien is dong pretty good
>b-buff game
this is how you grow the box
>buff game
>attract tourists
>a portion of them stays for regular streams
>add another buff game
>repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922862
Since it's open audition and not time limited, I'd say probably around late summer to early fall.
The fact they did this means they weren't happy with the limited amount of time they had to get applicants. I'm hoping for May/June because Council needs a kick in the ass to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923260
pfft

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922984
PuP has nothing to do with them having 3D or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>still talks about council and en gen 3
In other news: https://twitter.com/murasakishionch/status/1490851841755598851?s=21
Guess you’ll see Shion in 3 weeks guys! Not that it really matters!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923130
>3
Thats going to be hard when Kronii exists. You can just pander hard during your debut then not stream while still getting huge ccv and SCs whenever you do.

I'd also probably let Bae be in charge of handing out recs for this gen instead of Ina since the rat is a hard worker. And we already saw what happens when you ask Ina for hires

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923342
>3 weeks
Just in time for La+ mini shadowverse tourney.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923266
This, I can't wait until they learn how it feels to be on the other side of the fence, I remember everyone in myth trying to pump buff games pre-council debut, specially Mori and how she tried to latch Kronii because she had the best numbers

[Anonymous No.]

did the ENs just died? no one streaming in Niji and Holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923335
they do. having 3D figures before their 3D debut is considered a spoiler and will be a detriment to the actual debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923414
They're too busy HAVING SEX

[Anonymous No.]

is the nijiEN girls incline just a symptom of holoENs complacency

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923408
>Shadoverse
I believe that Hololive's investment in playing that game has led to not being able to play Konami stuff
If that's true I thank Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923408
Which then she’ll do and then fuck off for another 3 months in traditional Shion fashion

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923414
NijiEN already had 6 streams, I can't complain

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922660
>They are so dedicated to watching Gura, and only Gura that we've noticed she gets fewer numbers in collab streams than solo.
But this has been incorrect for a long time though? All of Gura's recent high view streams are collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923342
To the last samurai everything is ok when Japan does it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923461
Oh yeah Mori really love shadowverse. I hope they find a way to include her too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923260
4k is not outside her usual range, which is 1.5-2.5k with buff stuff getting 4k, and its been this way since at least october.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923342
This is Shion's number of streams in the exact same part of her hololive career as Council. This would be the top of council by a large amount. You can't compare Gen2 to Council because Gen2 worked so much damn harder than Council ever has in their first few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923608
hopefully not, she is a debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>17922613
>their company is doing better with game permissions
But...but...but its game company's fault,not Cover fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923342
Shion always return with a banger cover when she takes a long break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923540
They’re retarded. Gura collabs with council in particular are ridiculously high. Did people just forget the minecraft days where Gura was hitting 20-27k every single stream with them? Or the 25k+ dbd stream or the 28k smash bros with Kronii?
The only times she did badly was when she was streaming well out of her time zone and when playing random shitty games. Most notably the dead space 3 collab with Ina, or even Monster Hunter. Everything else has been solid, with exceptional results with council as mentioned

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923579

don't be like that anon. open holodex and search for some EN streams to have some fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923727
My favorites are Shion and Ayame though and they NEVER FUCKING STREAM!! I don't know how cover is ok with their laziness.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to Hololive?No one wants to stream except Lamy and HoloX.
Is management working?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923841
Different contract from different time.

[Anonymous No.]

chinks are getting uppity

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923636
>Comparing a 16 year old with no responsibilities or obligations apart from going to high school to Mumei, who lives alone, takes care animals, drives to where she needs to go to for her life and is in college while juggling hololive responsibilities
Yeah. Accurate comparisons there

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923841
>Shion
>Ayame
>streamers
They are essentially Vsingers now anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923884
*ahem*

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923983
>hiring college girls
This is why hags are the best choices

[Anonymous No.]

While everyone is spazzing about the lack of streams, Gura and Mori are literally raking in half a million+ views a day without streaming. In Gura's case in particular, a break always inclines the shit out of her VODs since it gives them room to be recommended.
I mean shit, in the past week, she gained like 20k views for this ancient VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE&t=188s
Stop LARPing as managers, there is a reason holos rotate in and out of the spotlight, even in the JP branch. They're simply not playing by twitch streamer IF YOU DON'T STREAM YOU'RE DEAD rules. I understand when fucking global whines about no streams because they actually want to watch them, but you lads want to see numbers grow, right? Well they're still growing just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17911759
Just out of curiosity, how are you able to find this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924086
I’ve legit seen that video 4 times on my youtube today. It’s crazy how much it’s getting recommended again

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923708
Pretty much. Le bad chumbuds not watching collabs have always referred to Ina/Kiara collabs outside her timeslot, and in THEIR timeslots. Another example are the Shion and Nachoneko collabs that got bad CCV compared to Gura's normal streams, but are now sitting at some of Gura's most popular streams with 800k+ views, dozens of high viewed clips and animations, a fuckton of art spawned etc. What's the argument there? Chumbuds hate collabs...but not the VOD watchers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923884
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923983
What about Choco who had a job and a roommate account that produced ASMR? She was one of the most subbed at this point too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17923983
Wrong, I drove her to her uni

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924127
If Gura cared about numbers she'd be doing at least one more. The demand is fucking insane, to the point where japanese comedians on TV reference this stream, and JP translators have probably clipped every single moment from it.
Just like EOPs fucking loved when say, Korone said random engrish shit, JOPs love same-chan saying random nihongo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924238
>Choco
>no pet
>no college
Not even close

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924086
it's just nijiniggers spazzing out after admiring their tiny dick numbers like the chinkSEAniggers they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924086
>1.5 million views on a fucking duolingo stream
Gura is just on another level from anybody else and no, CCV won't change my mind. She is an absolute powerhouse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924086
solo vs collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924280
You're being intentionally obtuse if you think that amounts to even half the difference. Council isn't fit to carry Gen2's jock strap at the same points in their respective careers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924086
Funny enough. Coco's dead channel has more daily views than Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924404
That is pretty funny actually

[Anonymous No.]

If Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Lamy, Koyori and Watame scheduled it properly they had enough stream time in January to have one of them live at any one time 24/7 throughout the month, zero out of elevens ENs streaming during NA primetime is a fucking embarrassment and not having enough of them is a ridiculous excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>17911759
Pekora has a very respectable 2.1 million or so in lifetime SC revenue. She make 40% of that in what? 24 hours? We don’t know cuts but every source suggests they are wildly better on merch. Explains why some Holos just can’t be bothered. That doesn’t mean superchats aren’t important: they keep engagement with the fanbase and spenders high. But throw ads members sponsors etc in there and sc starts to look like small part of the pie

[Anonymous No.]

anybody still remembers what numbers mori got on her first jojo twitter space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924380
>more subs
>more vods
>more SCs
>"Council isn't fit to carry Gen2's jock strap at the same points in their respective careers."
You're delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924273
She legitimately, honest to god needs to just do a JP stream in primetime one day where it’s specifically to interact with that audience. I don’t mean JP only, but like an actual chat stream or duolingo like this with them being the focal point. I truly feel like she’d get so many views for it or even clips. But even a stream in her own timezone is fine too.

>>17924185
Even those streams had pretty good ccv. Nacho stream hit 25k iirc and the first Shion collab hit what, 32-34k with Shion having 20k as well? The only one I remember being bad was the Mario Kart one where she had 14k but like, it’s Mario Kart. There isn’t much interaction there but it still had a lot of clips made from it. But yeah, people just always gravitate towards those awkward collabs and forget the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924380
>You're being intentionally obtuse
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

Ramy 10k i love her bois.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924526
Ramy love

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924481

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924347
Apex was a collab. Escape Simulator was multi POV and doing about the same as many other debuff games recently, despite Kronii having her own POV. Super Drink Bros is the shortest stream there and has the 2nd highest CCV.
You realize out of all those streams, It's the Siberian Sam solo one that is the worst performer, right? I don't have to explain why? You are aware of how VODs work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924502
Yeah, you're right. I forgot the minecraft one had great CCV. I guess it didn't seem that impressive to me back then since every single holo was pulling huger numbers and it was technically her first JP collab buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924347
You realize Escape Simulator was dual pov, with both vods adding up to over 500k views right? That obliterates 95% of any collabs in hololive, with select few like the botan/sub/la+/towa l4d2 collab for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924481
When it comes to work ethic and value to the company at the time? Yes. Adding some views to a massive pile is not worth grabbing every piece of the market as you can when you're still small. Council has never been one of the top earners and view getters in the company, Choco has. Aqua has too. Gen2 worked and worked hard, they didn't coast even though 80% of them were teenagers. Adults tend to work more than kids who tend to slack it but the opposite is true in this case.

[Anonymous No.]

Council schizo is having a field today cause no holo en stream tonight lol. Niji en is not a threat at all, remember that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924273
Gura seems to have this weird thought that she can't stream the same thing twice. Every stream needs to be something new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924481

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924526
11k get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924727
>everyone who thinks Council isn't doing well and has done little for the brand is a schizo
No one is calling for them to be graduated and stoned to death, they're just being called a disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

So.. not even Bae stream for today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924925
She will, she promised

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924716
I guarantee more people can name all Council members compared to JP gen 2, effort is wasted when Council has done more to increase holo mindshare in the market in 6 months than gen 2 in 3 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924860
But why? It's Kronii and Sana who are the outliers. Bae, Mumei and Fauna are pretty normal. Irys literally hurt her fucking throat, up until a month ago she was everyone's darling for streaming every day, now suddenly she's got a medical condition and she's not PUSHIN THE BRAND.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924447
The girls have said they get the lion's share of merch sales (anni/bday/milestone). Sponsors of course are generally the best income source and Pekora is not hurting for sponsorships (Square Enix in particular loves her). Wouldn't be surprised if Pekora is a multi-millionaire by now.
>>17924727
It's more disappointment since they're not stepping up to the plate when Myth is out (except Bae).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924925
She's doing recordings for most of the day, her stream will be night time JST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924981

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924981

>I guarantee more people can name all Council members compared to JP gen 2

jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924981
You realize Gen2 isn't 5 chocos, right? That Subaru and Aqua are pretty much tier 1 holos?

[Anonymous No.]

What "people" are you even referring to

[Anonymous No.]

>>17925054
How many subs and views and SCs did Subaru and Aqua have 6 months in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17925115

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924502
Gura has gotten pretty huge viewership for the few times she has ventured into JP primetime. The JOPs want to watch her and I think she should be doing AT LEAST one stream a month in that time slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924729
?? She did spam MC back in late sep to early October no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924729
I kind of feel like this Gura's mindset works well on youtube as a platform, as a channel mostly about games, you want your content diversity as much as you can. I don't use twitch much, but I guess most twitch viewers are mostly stick to certain games they are interested in unless you are already targeting towards a specific streamer for whatever shit he/she is doing?

I'm still used to the old Let's Play meta like Markiplier or Jacksepticeye until Hololive drag me into watching streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this guy being retarded on purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the numbers thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17925145
Mainly talking about non-Minecraft. Minecraft is a different beast in Hololive and when it picks up they all get involved in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924981
>I guarantee more people can name all Council members compared to JP gen 2,
Lmao
Nijikiller is more recognizable than all of council combined.
>effort is wasted when Council has done more to increase holo mindshare in the market in 6 months than gen 2 in 3 years
Literally carried them on their back when Hololive's biggest non Sora talent couldn't get 100k subs. Nothing to something, Council never had to with them with getting out of sometimes 200 viewer hell. Council is something to something and will never recline. They will never have a stream over their debut numbers and Gen2 average more than their debut numbers. The size of Council's wasted silver spoon could dig the Mariana trench.

>>17925054
Even 5 Chocos are more valuable to the company over their lifetime than fucking Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17924981
>failing to expand on pretty much a free EN market dominated by Myth
vs
>prying open a competitive JP market dominated by Niji and Kizuna Ai for Holo dominance
Nijikiller Aqua pretty much mogs any Council member

[Anonymous No.]

>>17925163
Gura's variety is probably to some degree intended for channel growth, but mostly because she has ADHD.
For real channel growth, Gura should target meme story games. Example? Boot up entire Yakuza 0-Kiwami 2 trilogy, that shit prints numbers, it's easier than DMC3 on normal(which she beat), is an action game which she likes etc.

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Speaking of HoloEN, are there HoloEN having their personal buff games?

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>>17925143
Agreed. It just sucks since it’s so hard to tell what Gura’s scheduling is like. This girl talks about JP streams all the time but also has times like the superhot stream where she’s literally waking UP as stream starts. This girl either has bad insomnia or has horrible sleeping patterns

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>>17925115
Anon... Aqua and Subaru are the sponsorship queens of Gen 2.
Subaru just appeared in Lupin the 3rd the other day.

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>>17925235
>recline
*incline