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>loved by leddit normies
>collabs with males
>openly friendzones her fans
>isn’t hated by /vt/
How does she do it?

>> No.17786392

>>17786343
She's actually funny and talented and doesn't flirt with any of the males she collabs with

>> No.17786422

She's professional. Not like 99percent of the whores who collab with males

>> No.17786429

>>17786343
She BTFO'D chinks?

>> No.17786464

By being a professional and based as fuck.

>> No.17786553

>>17786392
>Oga
Lmao
M
A
O

>> No.17786617

>>17786343
She didn't collab with an anituber, tho Holostarfags are still shitters.

>> No.17786618

>>17786553
The BMD is for risu only there is nothing to fear

>> No.17786650

>>17786553
he made my favourite game so I forgive him

>> No.17786672

>>17786343
Nobody on /vt/ understands her. That's the only reason.

>> No.17786738

Shes not an english vtuber 99% of the EOPs here dont bother watching her

>> No.17787150

>>17786343
Why would people complain about someone they don't watch?

>> No.17787222

The answer is simple. Shit talking about her doesn't bring enough (You)s.

>> No.17787380

>>17786553
Oga is bfe.
They would skin the fox and make a nice hat if they did.

>> No.17787619

>>17786343
her audience learned to compartmentalize her, she loses like half her viewership on homo collabs, but they come back next stream

>> No.17787663

>>17786343
>normies
kill yourself phoneposting tourist

>> No.17787725

>>17786650
What game? I'm not familiar with anything star.

>> No.17787726

>>17786343
Nobody understands her
/thread

>> No.17787780

>>17786343
because shes an OG tuber and not modern holoidol trash.

>> No.17787822

>>17786343
Doesn't collab with people hostile to Hololive and would openly tell them to fuck off for shitting on Nene.

>> No.17787833

>>17787780
>fbk
>not an Idol
God ENfags are really delusional

>> No.17787884

>>17786343
I'm as close to an unicorn as you will find in this board, and I'm fine with her, she behaves and knows how to be a pro, unlike the lean drinker

>> No.17787907

>>17787833
EN-only secondaries, plebbitors, TTroons.
All the same trash.
Only here to sabotage for woke points.

>> No.17787980

>>17787725
orange juice

>> No.17788039

>>17786343
She doesn’t hate Hololive or drink lean.

>> No.17788101

>>17786343
People dont hate male collabs they hate thinking their oshi is fucking said male.
FBK wouldnt do that and people know it so nobody cares.

>> No.17788202

>>17788101
That's what she wants you to think

>> No.17788242

>>17787980
That's dope

>> No.17788335

>>17786343
She is my friend

>> No.17788341

>>17788202
You are starting to get it, most people literally does not care what they do behind camera.
Keyword being, behind camera.

>> No.17788440
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It called being professional.

>> No.17788538

>>17786343
The things she does like stars collabs is because they're on life support and it's the right thing to do. Dump the chinks because it's the right thing to do. I may not like it but there's a reasoning and it's decent reasoning. She's not collabing with men for clout or to piss off her own fans.

>> No.17788618
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her audience learned to pick and choose with her

>> No.17788898

>>17786343
False equivalency.

Mori:
>Forces in a shitty bunch of fraud ecelebs into the picture and pressures her Holo friends to 'meet' them

>Tries to force the audience to be openly forcing being OK with her flirting not with a man playing a character like a Holostar, but straight up flirting with a 3D man for real on stream, bringing him up un-asked for. This totally breaks character. Remember, Mori had a Holostar collab a while back and nobody gave much a shit. C*nnor is a very different manner and level of shit to swallow.

>Will angrily excommunicate you as a fan if you so much as question the wisdom of these actions

>Openly provokes people trying to bait more responses for people who disagree with these actions

Any other questions?

>> No.17788975

>>17787980
Can't find anything on this anon, I'd unironically watch the homo if this rrat is true.

>> No.17789027

>>17788618
>Using numbers on FBK and Oga
Both of them already rich af and in Oga case, he only did vtubing for fun

>> No.17789036

For starters she's very professional and isn't an alcoholic.

>> No.17789106

>>17789027
Fubuki most likely did it because she's a huge nerd and being able to become a cute anime girl is a dream

>> No.17789125

>>17789027
There isn't even anything to have an opinion about there, fubukers straight up loses about 70% of her audience in those handful of male collabs she's done.

Her income also plummeted to near the bottom of the entire Holo pool not long after her "fuck gachikoi" type commentary. It recovered a fair bit since time heals all wounds but wounded she no less was, only supported by the fact she is a core, almost founding member of Holo so tries to use her seniority to get away with shit.

The only truly based thing she did was take a huge shit on China and happily pull out of there when bilibili tried to pressure her to choose either them or Hololive but I mean, basically anyone would have done that if given such a ridiculous ultimatum.

>> No.17789127

>>17786343
Because she's:
-Unflinchingly loyal to her company and real friends, to her financial detriment.
-Acting like she appreciates her place in the company
-An older talent with no signs of slacking off

>> No.17789208

>>17789125
>Her income also plummeted to near the bottom of the entire Holo pool
Source? Don't tell me SC numbers. It's fucking peanuts compared to sponsored stream which she does a tons

>> No.17789373

>>17789208
Yes it's SC, I remember there was one month a year+ ago she was I think 2nd or 3rd from the bottom of the entire roster, not at all representative of someone who held the #1 slot for so long. Imagine if Gura was near the bottom of SC income. Can you? That fucking happened to Fubuki.

In fact it's those sponsorships that probably emboldened her to do the things she does, she knows she really does not need the sukonbu at fucking all. However IMO it was still fucking stupid because she failed to read the room that Hololive had really changed gears/orientation a lot from Gen 3 onward and the earlier gens were a definite mishmash of attitudes/backgrounds.

>> No.17789553

>>17789373
Anon, unless you go full Rushia, SC actually doesn't mean shit

>> No.17789682

>>17789553
>free money means nothing
you are literally retarded

>> No.17789853

>>17789682
That little amount of money aren't enough to control most chuuba life, especially FBK

>> No.17789930

>>17786343
Hag energy overcomes all

>> No.17789984

>>17789682
FBK is rolling in sponsorship money
Supas don't mean shit

>> No.17790031

>>17786343
It's ok when JP does it

>> No.17790159

>>17786343
EOP cope thread? EOP cope thread.

>> No.17790354

>>17789853
Hololives don't really get paid a "salary" if they make 0 income, we learned from Kanata it's literally equivalent to like $200 baseline, basically just a "thanks for playing I guess" stipend. IIRC Aki mentioned there is also a sort of pooled tip jar thing they have for the bottom-level earners, made from the SCs of the rest FYI, to balance out their lacking in earnings. She definitely did not want to be a pity case and was very close to quitting holo at one point.

Memberships are what arguably most-sustainly keeps them all going, but SCs do matter as well.

Relative to this convo, while the fans can't actually dump FBK onto the street themselves, they did literally as much of a symbolic rebuttal of her attitude as they possibly could have. Compare that outcome to fucking actually-broken moron deadbeats giving Mori a ton of money for her attacking segments of her own fandom openly. Japanese fans have actual standards and discipline, Western ones just plain fucking don't. Or more specifically, in the 'fandom reflects the oshi' adage Mori has trained up a lot of her fans to be just as flippant of Holo and openly interchanging her with her RM activities as she is - also a pattern Fubuki does not do at fucking all.

>> No.17790484

>>17788975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3pIOUaOGiA

>> No.17790550

>>17786343
because she's white and not a nigger

>> No.17791639
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>>17790484
If I kneel any harder I think I'll break my fucking knees, beyond based.

>> No.17791749

>>17786343
I like Fubuki

>> No.17791751

>>17786343
Because she did scatman. That's it, that's why /vt/ accepts her so much.

>> No.17792383

>>17786343
Because she loves hololive.
Simple as

>> No.17792457

>>17786343
she is too well respected for it to matter, and is acknowledged as one of the foremost Hololive fans. Basically she is a pillar.

Can accept her collabing with males, I respect her nonetheless because I know that even if she fucks Oga behind the scenes, she will be professional enough to not let proof get out. As long as she accepts that many viewers won't watch her male collab streams, she's free to do them occasionally with no lasting damage.

Also Oga is sorta based with his Chloe take.... still won't watch him though if literally any other Hololive talent is streaming.

>>17790354
Its more that the HoloEN fanbase simply isn't united enough. Makes sense, its a global fanbase with no real core, while JP's core is much more homogenous.

>> No.17792627

Everyone knows that FBK shills everything on her twitter. For her fans, Holostar is just another corpo shilling FBK does on stream so she got a pass. Meanwhile Calli did a bad job shilling her TT friends so the outcome is different.

>> No.17795166

>>17792457
His Chloe take?

>> No.17795230

>>17786343
EN bad
JP good

>> No.17796545

>>17795166
He called out Chloe for being fake and only acting cute for easy money.

>> No.17797569

>>17788898
>Forces in a shitty bunch of fraud ecelebs into the picture and pressures her Holo friends to 'meet' them
Never happened.
>Tries to force the audience to be openly forcing being OK with her flirting not with a man playing a character like a Holostar, but straight up flirting with a 3D man for real on stream,
Never happened.
>Will angrily excommunicate you as a fan if you so much as question the wisdom of these actions
Never happened.
>Openly provokes people trying to bait more responses for people who disagree with these actions
Never happened.
>You taking your meds.
Also, clearly never happened.

>> No.17797594

>>17797569
cope and seethe cuckbeat

>> No.17797702

>>17786343
>>openly friendzones her fans
>>isn’t hated by /vt/
>How does she do it?
Maybe /vt/ just wants to have a friend.

>> No.17797810 [SPOILER] 

>>17797569

>> No.17797836

>>17797702
Fubuki is my best friend, I am okay.

>> No.17798033

>>17787780
Matsuri and Chammers are OGs and they are constantly getting shitted here, I think the real reason why people doesn't speak any negative word of Fubuki is because she is not a menhera, she could be basically the most mentally stable member in Hololive

>> No.17798093

>>17792457
>Basically she is a pillar.
isn't she like Kanata-tier?

>> No.17798206

>>17795166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLPpCP_Uths

>> No.17798341

>>17798093
Do you really measure how much are you a pillar in Hololive using money?

>> No.17798406

>>17797702
She doesnt actually friendzone you...

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>>17797569

>> No.17798596

>>17798341
In views, in earning, in activity. The only thing top-tier with Fubuki is her sub-count, but by that metric Mori is a pillar too.

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>>17798596
>numberfags actually believe this

>> No.17798738

>Comparing across multiple gens
retard

>> No.17798850

FubuKING has been there from the start, has helped and supported all her kohais without compensation and frequently to her own detriment
FubuKING is among the greatest of chuubas and her supporting her Holostar friends is no yab

>> No.17798985

>>17798693
I asked a qestion dude. If you didn't have an answer to give, you could also shut the fuck up.

>> No.17799095

Fubuki is Hololive
for millions of reasons that only a newfag wouldn't be aware of, she's among the most important and respected members of the company
we've all seen how much she cares for her coworkers time and time again, how she constantly put herself second to help someone else
hating, or even just disrespecting FBK should get you laughed out of the building even among the most rabid shitposters

>> No.17799437

Cuz this board is reddit

>> No.17799514

>>17799095
I don't hate her, I pre ordered her figures, but I think as some anon pointed out people isn't interested in her male collabs and she actually lost a lot of income in merch/SC when she didn't go the pandering route, she just sells other thing that isn't the most profitable one yet she makes up by being the public face for hololive with sponsor and other things.

>> No.17799566

>>17798850
start was september 2017. Foob started in June 2018.

>> No.17799703

>>17799566
1st gen was when it started to really move, before 1st gen it was 4 loosely aligned indies

>> No.17799732

>>17798596
t.mutt

>> No.17799844

>>17798985
Being financially/fame successful doesn't mean a lit when you chose a leader anon, she is a pillar because she has connections and bonds with almost everyone, also she is willing to support those talents who requires help, that's why she is considered a pillar, having 3M subs like Gura means shit if you don't talk with anyone else in the company

>> No.17799950

>>17797569
that's some amazing degree of being divorced from reality. have you been in a coma since her first week on the job or something?

>> No.17799990

>>17799514
I really think you faggots press the "all about money" mentality far too much. Obviously for some people it's all about money but nobody can really live that way long-term and for most Holos they clearly aren't prioritizing the maximum amount of money they can earn at all moments. For example, it's known you'll get more superchat money if you read them but many don't read them. If you could guarantee every single individual Holo all the money they would have ever made pursuing their current path plus one dollar more if they just collabed with males regularly, more than one of them would turn it down.

>> No.17800107

>>17798596
She's like Sora, unimpressive on paper when compared to everyone else now but with a massive legacy. Subaru is an idol to many people throughout the company including the CEO and is one of its oldest members that is actually active and popular. Yet she gets nervous doing a collab with her daisenpai like Sora or Fubuki.

>> No.17800128

>>17799990
Anon I get what you mean, but the thing with fubuki is how big her SC drop was, I think that specific example is irrelevant, she went from top to bottom in amount of SC. other holos that are sort of GFE make big bank there without reading all of them, only above purple or yellow.

>> No.17800664

>>17800128
But if that loss of money is genuine, the fact that she never reversed would show money isn't the motivator in these decisions. She has more security than ever even if she theoretically has less money. This idea that every Holo who isn't collabing with males is doing so because of money is ridiculous.

>> No.17801572

>>17800128
I get that financially is bad to not do what basically Rushia does, but anon, if she doesn't care about money why bother make her act like Rushia for money? For her is irrelevant and she enjoys way more her job like this than being a money machine

>> No.17801816

>openly friendzones her fans
Her entire "arc" is slowly realizing she's in love with (you). To include going on a totally-not-romantic-just-friends date with her chat to the 2021 summer festival, where she completely ignored the rest of the chuubas and only talked to her viewers.
She likes to play hard-to-get. That's it. But nerds can't read women, and her "no waifu only friend" Engrish makes for a funny clip.

>> No.17802185

>>17800664
>>17801572
Oh no don't misunderstand me anons, I agree and I'm pretty sure Fubuki is the kind of person to prefer the way she's doing now over getting a bit more money, but the discussion started about how she wasn't losing money when she's actually losing it, it may be lot or just a bit, but the loss is there.
It's a fact the rushia or lamy model can bring in a lot of money from very dedicated people, fans aren't as dedicated to fubuki as to some other holos, hell even Luna has a ultra dedicated fans thanks to how she behaves in membership.
There is also the factor of some holos very comfortable with said dedicated and loyal audience who can be in "love" with them, getting parasocial is a 2 ways bridge and sometimes it ain't as bad as people paints it.
There are different ways of making it and forcing one way to dissapear is something I consider retarded.
Homobeggars being what I mean by forcing one to dissapear, and then the niggers don't watch the streams.

>> No.17802277

>>17801572
The reverse is also ridiculous, do you think Rushia only does what she does for money? Not every decision they make is motivated by money (at least not with all of them) since it's not even a guarantee which choice will make you more money in the end. The reason Kiara spends so much time with her chat rather than ignore them like Ina is not because of money but because Kiara is a very needy and lonely person. It just so happens that translates into more money (although Ina is using her time while not streaming to earn money while Kiara uses hers to spend money). Kiara still considers herself a failure in comparison to Ina despite getting way more superchats and having the same amount of subs. It's just not in everyone's personality to do the same things, Laplus stood out to everyone right away as the meme of HoloX because of her personality but it's to keep that personality intact that she doesn't read superchats so she ends up the least superchatted of her gen. In the long-run she could very well end up making more money than all of them despite less in superchats.

>> No.17802755

>>17786343
She was hated by /jp/ for a brief period in 2020 between shortly after the Wendy's menu/scatman shit that blew her up in the West and Taiwan, where she seemingly tried to sabotage herself by doing nothing but stream animal crossing and homo collabs.

>> No.17803262

>>17786392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvKjj8gn_w

>> No.17803417

>>17800107
>Yet she gets nervous doing a collab with her daisenpai like Sora or Fubuki.
Subaru is a special case as she started as some complete randos with no relevant experience, skill or knowledge. She had to learn everything from scratch from her fellow holos. That brought about a special relationship.

>> No.17805939

>>17786422
'Professional' is an euphemism for 'Whore', anon.

>> No.17808662

>People ITT are shiting on Friend
God, you are even below chinks...

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>>17803262
i want fanart with his arm around her

>> No.17814854

>>17786343
By being creative, hard-working, cute and respectful. It's that simple.

>> No.17814970

>>17797569
t. dude in denial

>> No.17815343

>>17814594
What's he doing?

>> No.17815370

>>17815343
being a chad

>> No.17816068

>>17808662
> Chinks want her death
No, we still better than chinks in some degree.

>> No.17816123

>>17816068
this board literally has a cannibalism thread, the chinks are better

>> No.17816232

>>17816123
>he got filtered by /meat/
go back

>> No.17816391

>>17786343
It's cause she brought in the best gen gamer and most importantly my wife Mio

>> No.17816608

>>17816232
go back to being banned

>> No.17816925

>>17816608
Still mad we ate your oshi? Don't worry, she was delicious.

>> No.17820600

>>17816123
>can't tell fantasy from reality

>> No.17821181

>>17820600
>being a serial killer is my fantasy
get some help

>> No.17821280

>>17821181
found the redditor

>> No.17827673

>>17786343
Everytime there is some faggot ERP gay sex or being a general faggot in a thread it's behind a fubuki avatar. Why are the corn niggers like this?

>> No.17827923

>>17787725
>phones are... LE BAD

>> No.17827992

>>17786343
because collabing with males isn't the issue. Stop deflecting, address the actual issue being breadtuber western internet celebrity drama-loving garbage.

>> No.17828127

>>17786343
Because she's a good friend. She's always there for us to entertain us.

>> No.17828207

>>17797569
stages of grief

>> No.17828656

>>17798206
the oda seethe lmao. no shit she's doing a bit. I guess it's gotta hurt when she probably made more in one day as a vtuber than he ever has

>> No.17828802

>>17800107
FBK's viewer numbers aren't bad at all.

>> No.17830787

>>17786343
1. She refused being a waifu many times, unicorns gave up eventually
2. Coco supporter
3. She helped holostar because of her responsibility as a pillar of the agency, not because she crave for men

>> No.17830851

>>17786553
Oga is another case of FBK nepotism

>> No.17832160

>>17830851
Based Fubuki bringing talent to Cover. Unlike a certain gacha artist.

>> No.17832241

>>17821181
I fuck old women in my fantasy but I don't irl

>> No.17832559

>>17792457
Jesus leave it to /vt/sisters to take an obvious joke about Chloe into Oga calling her out. I’m not sure if it’s delusion or autism, but learn to not read your own feelings into what someone else is expressing.

>> No.17834271

>>17786343
She maintains a professional distance from males and her (long time) fans know she's playing up any flirting to create content.
All you have to do to collab with males is not slobber all over their dick like horny streetwhores, which a lot of the newer chuubas don't seem to understand.

>> No.17835719

>>17797569
cuckbeats coping now, grab some lean and show them how
Welcome to the mountaintop
Waitin' till the trash calls
I hope you're ready to be cucking 'til the night falls
Are you a slave? An entertainer 'til the fun dies?
I hope you're ready to be cucking 'til the sunrise

>> No.17835785

>>17786343
Because she's my friend.

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>>17786553
Don't worry, woman doesn't care about your dick size

>> No.17835881

>>17830787
>implying
I still see her as my waifu

>> No.17836033

>>17786343
>loved by leddit normies
So literally every Holomen?
>collabs with males
Suisei huggged a male and posted it on Twitter, so?
>openly friendzones her fans
You dont even get to be Suisei's friends

>> No.17837269

>>17836033
Stay strong starchips.

>> No.17840144

>>17786343
ehhhh

>> No.17845034

>>17786343
Stop using pictures of my wife to shitpost on here.

>> No.17846100

>>17786343
>loved by leddit normies
>isn't hated by /vt/
I think there might be a connection here....

>> No.17846194

>>17805939
Professional Whore. Lightyears better than your average amateur camwhore

>> No.17846290

>>17786343
>Oga

>> No.17846369

>>17836033
>hugged a male and posted it on twitter
this isn't about ankimo is it

>> No.17847244

>>17790354
>She definitely did not want to be a pity case and was very close to quitting holo at one point
You're bullshitting. Source or GTFO

>> No.17847401

>>17847244
I presume he is still referring to Aki at that point, who had her episode that hooked all the reddit saviorfags.

>> No.17849320 [DELETED] 

>>17786343
she cute

>> No.17849382

hail to the king

>> No.17849404

>>17786343
Vt doesnt know japanese

>> No.17850588

>>17830851
Oga is actually Miko nepotism

>> No.17850742

She collabs with Homostars, not fucking 3D males. She does get hate for it from a few schizos but most people don't mind, especially since she made it clear from the start that she doesn't do GFE (which almost all of HoloEN play into) and thus there are no autists who feel "betrayed".

More importantly she actually respects hololive and doesn't openly hate it, which has always been the biggest issue with M*ri, much more so than her obsession with males.

>> No.17850841

>>17798093
How new?

>> No.17851708

>>17805939
I don't think anon was talking about Subaru.

>> No.17852189

>>17786343
she's a jap

>> No.17852267

>>17850742
>but most people don't mind
Well strictly speaking they don't mind that she does it but they still refuse to watch those videos in particular.
Anyway mori's biggest issue is that 2 out of 3 TT's and in particular their fanbase is extremely loathed among the kind of people who like holo. (personally couldn't give a fuck about Mori herself or the 'drama')

>> No.17852347

She's the functional face of hololive and is one of the most beloved members by members. She's indominable and expressing hate for her is openly saying you hate hololive. She's withstood the onslaught of zhangs for more than a year. I unironically think the OP is just a zhang trying to get unicorns to hate her so he should kill himself.

>> No.17852439

>>17790354
Polka says SCs are chump change compared to sponsorships, which Fubuki gets a metric ton of, and Matsuri says SCs barely 10% of her income. Judging by numbers Towa's more recent merch run last month made more than her entire year of SCs.

>> No.17852682

>>17852439
Depends on the holo surely?
I don't see Rushia ever considering her SC's chumpchange for instance.

>> No.17852957

>>17852682
Rushia's merch run last month made half of what she made in SCs in 2021. When you consider Rushia does more than 2 a year, has a ton of members, and her channel views are 8 million per month Rushia is fine without SCs too. Maybe not 10% fine but still good.

>> No.17853200

>>17852267
Just admit you hate Mori, holofags.

>> No.17854029

>>17835835
uhuh sure

>> No.17854793

>>17847401
the funniest shit is seeing her saviours seething that some other gen's debut took away her momentum. lmao she's never had momentum she just got a shot in the arm of pity because she was having a meltdown. People only get momentum from clippers and being entertaining and she's so damn boring

>> No.17854861

>>17852957
it's not like merch runs are pure profit they still have to make the products which are usually smaller batch orders from whoever which is always going to be far more expensive per unit to do than anything a major producer does.

>> No.17857777

Interestingly enough, I was pretty into her some time ago and i could have tell you then her good points but her latest eternal pokemon/phasmo saga althrough it got her lots of viewers (and i myself watched quite a bit of it) it kinda disconnected me of caring.
But yeah, she's pretty professional, very supportive of other holos both in and out of the public, and is a young, energetic, happy-go-lucky, warm and friendly, clean image for the corpo. She also tried to connect with all kind of fans and make bonds of trust (the canary in the mine thing), even the overseas ones, way before other holos tried to do the same so there's that.
There's some sense out of her of a pillar of the company who hard-carried the growth of Hololive for a long time even if now she feels dissolved in the larger pool of chuubas while she prefers to play games with her cliques.

>> No.17857954

>>17786392
>my whore oshi at least doesn’t flirt with chad
Whatever helps you sleep at night anon

>> No.17857981

>>17786343
Why does it feel like this thread has been up for weeks?

>> No.17858609

>>17786343
Fubuki's audience is the only one that understand the concept of ''don't like it don't watch it'', Fubuki also knows that but she at least tries to give the stars a bone without forcing something

>> No.17860319

>>17853200
I don't, though. She's fine. She's not my oshi though, so that's about all the praise I'll sing of her.

>> No.17862458

>>17850742
>GFE (which almost all of HoloEN play into)
lmao

>> No.17865339

>>17786343
>>Oga

>> No.17865577

don't lump me in with you, I actually admire the chinks that harass her

>> No.17867878

>>17865577
>hating on Fubuki
You should unironically kill yourself.

>> No.17868873

>>17865577
Do me a favor and KYS now

>> No.17869055

>>17854793
Redditors really save her and loyal to Aki
Some of them membership her for 1.6 year now

>> No.17871812

>>17865577
You are the scum of the Earth and deserve the rope.

>> No.17872028
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17872028

>it was explained many times people were mad about Mori because TT hates hololive, not because they are men
>you still keep saying it's because of men

FBK is decently amusing as a streamer and doesn't rely on being a woman.

>> No.17879646

>>17786392
>doesn't flirt with any of the males she collabs with
lmao

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>>17786343
If you'd like an actual explanation, Fubuki is respectful and doesn't spit on people she doesn't agree with/pander to. We can compare her to two others who do male collabs if you'd like a better, longer understanding.

Mori for instance openly spites those who don't like who she hangs out with. She hangs out with a known anituber grifter associated with a crypto scam, who actively shits on japan, the very place he's leeching off of. He also shits on Hololive, whether you believe it was merely poor phrasing aside, what he said is still a not a good look and a smart man would know how to speak properly at his age. The fans then became concerned about his behavior, some even asking about it in a very polite and reserved way, causing Mori's still not ongoing mini-meltdown. A very immature, hostile response compared to Fubuki's more reserved and friendly way of dealing with her audience, even when when she doesn't agree with them. Mori is rude and unprofessional, Fubuki is not.

Ollie as another instance, treats male collabs as male collabs, not just collabs, and is generally obnoxious about it. She even tried to get her two coworkers to flirt in what was a 1-on-1 apex collab she pulled the third into, again very unprofessional. She constantly goes for pity points, acting like she and the guys are being oppressed by some invisible influence, despite the fact she is allowed to collab with them (and other men) whenever she wants. More than this though, Fubuki will treat a collab with Oga as just a collab. Not a collab with a man, which she has to bring up later or before the stream. It isn't special to her, because he's just a friend she wants to stream and have fun with, nothing odd about it. Ollie will treat male collabs as odd and talk about how others dislike and view them as odd, this makes her audience either "support" them or "appose" them instead of simply acknowledging their existence. Fubuki just treats it as a normal collab, so her fans, some more hesitantly than others, accept it as well. They simply don't watch if they don't want to, but they don't hate her for them because she does it with more grace than Ollie.

>> No.17882127

>>17789125
>Her income also plummeted to near the bottom of the entire Holo pool not long after her "fuck gachikoi" type commentary
I must've missed it. What did she actually say

>> No.17882272

She actually does get shit for it. In the end she gets away with it since she is old gen where shit like that was normal anyway. Even then she still gets shit for it.

>> No.17888118

>>17881351
I literally forgot Ollie collabed with Astel almost every other week ngl

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