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chinese fans have now resorted to doxxing luca's mod teams, at this rate there's no saving the chinks

>> No.17749528

wtf happened now?

>> No.17749701

>>17749237
First the Mysta drama now a Luca drama? That's how you know the boys got popular for real

>> No.17749792

qrd?

>> No.17750121

>>17749701
Yeah some bitch decided to send an akasupa saying that she got banned for being too horny, which didn't even happen. Youtube started to time them out for spamming, and the main mod had to come in to calm the situation down.

Then the chinks came and started to say "YOU'RE BEING RACIST TO CHINESE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!" tp the main mod when she wasn't lol

>> No.17750367

this chink should kill herself
https://twitter.com/hiulaamtam92421/status/1489629027552088064

>> No.17750380

>>17750121
what the fuck...

>> No.17750544

>>17750380
the main mod had to private her twt because chinese fans are raiding her mentions, sending her death threats, all in chinese

no wonder the chinese government is starting to round these animals up, they need to die lol

>> No.17750563

American friends we're counting on you to go and die.. I mean fight for freedom fighting Russia and China!

>> No.17750641

>>17750380
Yeah it got really out of control. I think they were mad that she brought up chinese people first so they thought she was just singling them out. Then even when she apologized for not understanding or being able to communicate in chinese they're still mad about it. I don't think anything she does will make them happy.

>> No.17750669

>>17750544
>twt
>lol
Can you all please make it less obvious that you're raiding this site from twitter, the EN thread already got cheese pizza posted because chinks are mad that anons are mad at them harassing Luca

>> No.17750712

>>17750563
they are all faggots and even if they all died another faggot would take their place

>> No.17750802

>>17749237
Chinksanjibros, i thought they're on our side?

>> No.17750930

>>17749237
You faggots reap what you sow. Enjoy your chink fanbase.

>> No.17750983

>>17750930
wow so edgy......you sure hurt me

>> No.17751057

>>17750669
what if i said i was from reddit, then what will that make me

>> No.17751165

>>17750983
you should have kicked them out when you had the chance
t. tatsunoko

>> No.17751470

>>17750121
Come on anon, you're not telling any lies but you're being biased

>>17749528
>>17750380
>Main mod made up a rule that Luca had never said about not using the hot emoji
>At the same time, chinese fans got timeout by youtube for spamming
>They sent akasupas asking if they were banned because of the new rule
>Luca later on posted on twitter "don't lie to me (about the ban), I trust my mods"
>Chinese fans got mad about him defending the mod and calling them liars
>Main mod apologized on twitter for not knowing chinese and not being clear about the timeouts
>That got twisted into "mod is blaming the chinese for all the mess"
>They mobilize on twitter to get Luca to apologize again (he apologized on stream already) and to fire the mod
>We're here

>> No.17751610

New rule: No Chinese.

>> No.17752414

lol
How are you enjoying your new "en" males, nijis? All that being annoying and spamming threads about how your boys were so popular and big (in sea lmao), and now this. I hope you have fun with the cancerous Chinese. Birds of a feather and all that I guess.

>> No.17752597

>It's been two days and now there is a thread about it

>> No.17753065

>>17752414
Holos would know a lot about this wouldn’t they.

>> No.17753980
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Bad actors will always use language barriers to disrupt communication and twist their words. The same problem with indogs who cannot even comprehend the English language correctly, or EOPs spreading false narratives about JP talents.

>> No.17754155

Bugs always be bugs

>> No.17754156

>>17749237
NijiZHANGji

>> No.17754264

>>17751470
Nuke China time when?

>> No.17754874

>>17751057
A collosal faggot

>> No.17754895

>>17751470
>>Main mod made up a rule that Luca had never said about not using the hot emoji
This didn't happen.
She said not to be creepy in general, and also said one (1) time that she liked the heart face emoji more than the hot face one. Not even not to use it, just that she liked the hearts more.
People then either got timed out for spam and misunderstood, or got timed out for actual creepy comments and tried to deflect with the emoji thing.

>> No.17754935

Im telling you americans you should just nuke the chinese 3 gourges dam while you can

>> No.17754945

>>17753980
Based sane take.

>> No.17755070

>>17754935
Russia (USSR) back in the 1960's wanted to team up with America to nuke them too. But the President is a fucking pussy of course.

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>>17749237
>chinese
>a mistake to let into your fandom

Pick two. I really hope cover holds off on EN males considering it seems the Chinese fujo market is essential for their success, and they'd need to be even more reliant on these because Cover has only a very tiny fraction of the endemic Japanese fujo base the Nijis had going into it.

>> No.17755145

Thank you for the containment thread.

>> No.17755234

Surprised it took so long for this thread to get made. I was expecting 20 bait threads by now.

>> No.17755258

>>17754895
She literally complained on twitter and discord while the stream was still going. People have saved screenshot of her shitting on those fans, it doesn’t look good for her at all. She should have kept her mouth shut and just do her job.

>> No.17755346

>>17755234
Most people in VT watch males or Niji.

>> No.17755391

>>17755234
Holobronies only get their information about Niji from this board. Sorry

>> No.17755405

>>17755258
Yes, she told people not to make creepy comments. Which wasn't in the rules because Luca didn't HAVE rules before then, but should be common sense. Taking her complaints about creepy comments and acting like she was just talking about the emote spam with that is part of deflection.

>> No.17755409

>>17755346
*Don't

>> No.17755417
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>> No.17755463

>>17755391
Yeah.
I guess it tells you something about the kinds of people who take bait out of the threads. They're all probably too occupied with the Mori drama right now lmao.

>> No.17755474

>>17755417
What the hell, if they're this mental over a fucking emote imagine how tilted they'd get if an actual yab came about.

>> No.17755573

A chink is a chink, no matter if they're a mainlander or Taiwanese, male or female.
It's a shame the mod is going to be hounded by chinks unless she changes names and models, but the Luxiem boys should have enforced better chat rules from the start.

>> No.17755663

>>17755474
They don't even need yab to start throwing shit around and act like bygs

>> No.17755668

>>17755405
That’s not my point. The action of her talking shit on twitter or discord looks bad because the fans are never gonna see them. She’s just venting and it is unprofessional as a mod. She should’ve saved them for a private account.

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I'm normally on team fuck mods, but with Chang's and Chun's involved I might have to deferr this time

>> No.17755817

>>17755573
Your second point is actually pretty true, Luca really should have gone into this with a drawn line in the same beforehand instead of saying how he stand by my mod, and didn't like being sexualized that much after it had already happened. I can't even imagine how much worse this would be if it happened with Vox or Mysta's chats.

>> No.17755881

>>17755573
The Taiwanese fans have been supportive of Mizuchi. They even made videos explaining the situation to ESLs Amanda the chunks took it the wrong way. Since Mizuchi has traditional Chinese in her twitter name, the chinks are accusing her for supporting Taiwan independence lmao. (Only Taiwanese and hk ppl use traditional Chinese)

>> No.17755891

>>17755817
line in the sand, not the same, I need to proofread...

>> No.17755896

>>17755668
I think it was a mistake for her to be a mod and to have that account associated with her vtuber persona.

>> No.17755917

>>17755668
Oh no, you're right there. She should've made a few messages along the lines of "Please do not sexually harass the streamer" and then silently banned people who went too far. She was right, but poor execution.
Given that she didn't say anything the first time, and that she was also Luca's mod in his past life where he was MUCH more sexual, I kind of suspect he told her he was uncomfortable after last time but didn't want to tell chat that. He's usually bad enough at asserting himself that I could see it.

>> No.17755994

>>17755817
tbf, Vox and Mysta's chats actively encourage them to be sexual (Vox even has "It's ok to make thirst comments" in his rules). It'd be different with them.

>> No.17756019

>>17755817
Vox and Mysta’s chat are better maintained because they would just brush it off. Ike and Shu get sexual harassments too but they would just ignore them.

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Chinks...chinks never change

>> No.17756048

>>17755917
Yeah he needs to be more assertive with what he likes and doesn't like in the chat.

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>> No.17756260

It's Luca's fault. Because he sided with one side.

>> No.17756291

>>17755258
CHING CHONG I RIKE DOG PING PONG

>> No.17756364

>>17755573
>the Luxiem boys should have enforced better chat rules from the start.
This is so true, but sadly NijiEN isn't exactly good at keeping their chats and fans in line until it's too late (I remember some Finana fans made Oliver pretty unconfortable a few months back), only one that seems to actually try is Nina (and somewhat Millie and Enna), but the rest seems happy letting their fans run amok.

>> No.17756437

>>17755573
Dont blame us for this we have actual braincells and class, its mainland china shitting the bed ruining the planet usual

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>>17756220
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>> No.17756511

it's genuinely pathetic seeing them all flooding his tags

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>>17756444

>> No.17756529

>>17755573
>chink is a chink, no matter if they're a mainlander or Taiwanese,
CCP moment.

>> No.17756572

>NijiEN fans used to make fun of us for hating the zhangs
>now they realize that the hate was well founded

>> No.17756720

>Woman mod trying to think it works the same way to not sexualize men
>While doing THE coomer bait game
Congrats, your Live2D debut has been successfully aborted.

>> No.17756740

>>17756720
>trying to think it works the same way to not sexualize men
commit suicide.

>> No.17756795

>>17756740
You first, then I'll follow.

>> No.17756898

>>17755881
That is JAPANESE, not tranditional Chinese...
I didn't know 蛟龍 was pronounced like Mizuchi, not like jiaolong, in Chinese

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>>17756444
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>> No.17757147

Male EN was clearly a mistake. Nothing but stupid drama.

>> No.17757309

>>17757147
There's been plenty of stupid drama with the girls too. Not to mention all the drama other female EN chuubas get into.

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>>17756949
SEX

>> No.17757395

Actually Luca, Mysta, and Vox mods are kinda "having too much ego".
I think it is twitch-like style and sometimes not acceptable for YT-only viewers.
(clearly different from EN-sempais and JP livers' chat)
Chronic dissatisfaction to that could be fuel for this issue.

>> No.17757432

>>17757309
but no one cares about male drama

>> No.17757442

>>17755817
The guy does weekly ring fit adventure streams. He knows what he's selling. All he's doing now is showing us that male vtubers can be just as hypocritical as female vtubers.

>> No.17757467

>>17757395
sus esl

>> No.17757542

I guess this is what happens when you dont sever ties with the bugman

>> No.17757563

I just don't understand why NijiEN let the mods to be so fucking active in chat, and don't get me started with Mizuchi being a pre-debuted indie

>> No.17757601

>>17757467
u r right
my first tongue is Japanese
Could you correct my post so it will be more natural if you like?

>> No.17757614

>>17757442
There's a difference between emoji and generic horny comments about moans, and weird shit.
And Luxiem gets plenty of weird comments. Have you not seen the donators with names like "Vox's Cockwasher" and "Luca's Fleshlight"?
That shit wouldn't fly with most female streamers, and it shouldn't fly for the males either.

>> No.17757749

>>17749237
Not surprised. Its one of China's greatest weapons, weaponized autism.

>> No.17757789

>>17757395
Twitch is the most comfortable place for most western indie vtubers, so it's not too much of a surprise when they and their former mods need to take a while to adjust to YouTube culture.

>> No.17757838

>>17757789
>>17757395
This Youtube/twitch cultural separation is some schizo shit

>> No.17757875

LMAO, enjoy your Zhang fanbase Nijiniggers. As a HoloCHAD I'm just gonna be sitting back and enjoying the shit show. Crazy that Luxiem has basically no appeal in the west and their fanbase is 90% zhang. How did that even happen anyway?

>> No.17757977

>>17757838
It's the absolute truth though. People on YouTube are used to there being little to no moderation in chat, which is the opposite of Twitch, where mods have an iron grip.

>> No.17757991

>>17757563
If they did the same thing in NijiJP chat, the liver would be definitely flamed
Too active mods are in fact one of the reasons why chii-chan has so many reversed antis

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>>17757614
So what would you consider something like this from the mod in question who was angry about an emoji?

>> No.17758122

>>17757395
I don't know about Mysta drama but Luca's mod is actually pretty good and cares about maintaining a good environment for his chat.
Vox's mod is annoying and probably the most toxic person in his chat.
This is probably why Hololive weren't even allowed to have mods that weren't Cover employees or known members of the community like that Matsuri simp.

>> No.17758124

>>17757977
Plenty of vtubers have silent mods. I'd rather see them try to reign this shit in a bit than the dozens of [Luca's Cocksleeve] greynames hornyposting and openly posting depraved garbage

>> No.17758186

>>17758106
A joke about him being pregnant from someone who personally knows him isn't creepy, no.

>> No.17758233

>>17758122
Yeah, power tripping mods who get inflated egos is one of the reasons that was always given for why Holos don't have mods on their channels. Watching this shit show I have to say that Cover made the right decision.

>> No.17758289

>>17758122
Mysta's mods talk like normal chatters pretty often, but the only drama was when people were spamming the viewcount one stream, they were telling people to stop, and Mysta told them to calm down.

>> No.17758315

>>17758106
There's this concept called beating a dead horse that you should familiarize yourself with

>> No.17758344

>>17755234
contrary to poular belief
no one wathes the nijimales here. they appeal to women
so these little drama is done by CHINESE WOMEN

>> No.17758389

>>17758124
Yes. Mods should be as silent as possible and focusing on background control, don't assert too much by themselves as if they were participants of the stream
I guess this is what not a few of YT-only viewers think of

>> No.17758403

>>17749237
Based I love the Chinese now, hope they keep it up and doxx all the faggots in Luxiem

>> No.17758450

>>17758389
Why

>> No.17758484 [DELETED] 

>>17757563
Her being a pre debut indie leach is the main reason to hate her desu

>> No.17758521

>>17758233
The weird thing is it took this long for even NijiEN to have these problems. The girls don't really add anyone as mods except their clippers or other members of Nijisanji so they never had these issues. The worst might be Selen and Reimu adding IPN as a mod because he's kind of a schizo sometimes. Not sure why Niji management let the boys add their girlfriends as mods before they even debuted.

>> No.17758560

>>17758450
because the stream is of the streamer, not of the mods

>> No.17758587

>>17758560
The mods aren't on the stream

>> No.17758629

>male drama
>EN male drama
Really?

>> No.17758633

>>17758289
the boys are so fuckingscared of controlling their chat becasue it will make them lose the femal viewers.
they cant have a good chat and nice viewership they will need to compromise something.And luca has already chose that he wants a good chat to talk with and i agree in his choice.

>> No.17758692

>>17758587
chat is a part of the stream
insisting mods are annoying for the viewers who come watching the streamer's stream

>> No.17758725

>>17755126
They just need to bring in a replacement for the Chinese fujos; a force nearly, if not, more powerful than the Chinese…spics. The spics Reimu failed to lure, Cover can take.

>> No.17758737

>>17758692
Dipshits spamming chat with garbage is even more annoying

>> No.17758829

>>17758737
I agree that the chat should be controlled.
What I am saying is the mods dont have to post their comments on the chat
they can do their job silently, right?

>> No.17758833

>>17758629
But the drama was started by a female mod and female fans so really, it's female drama.
Just like how female vtuber drama is started by their male fans.

>> No.17758874

>>17758829
Failure of mods to communicate is literally how this stupid drama happened

>> No.17758900

>>17758737
Luxiem chats have a very different vibe than other livers. Spamming is very common. You cannot get around it.
I think people are upset bc the mod is an obvious leech trying to gain clout for her indie debut.

>> No.17758905

>>17758403
>They are going to fly to their homes and there will be forced impregnation

>> No.17758914

>>17758725
Fuck no. They're just as bad as the zhangs. I'd rather take both twice retarded indogs and flips at once rather than dip even single toe in the cesspit that spic audience.

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Chatty mod is always annoying, just use sub account to chat, especially the one with smaller audiences, all i see is a blue wrench icon.

>> No.17758975

https://twitter.com/Tr_Jimo/status/1489743561486921728/photo/1
>the 4 point
seems more like threat than anything

>> No.17758987

>>17758900
People are upset because they're brainwashed chinks doing the fucking >hurt the feelings of the chinese people garbage.
Schizos on /vt/ are upset because they'll spin anything into drama to shitpost about. She's no worse than a regular chatter.

>> No.17759036

>>17758936
they dont want to use AND dont even want to enable slow mode.
i dont undertsand the boys

>> No.17759042

>>17758900
>I think people are upset bc the mod is an obvious leech trying to gain clout for her indie debut
Yep. If she wasn't trying to leech then she'd use a separate account to moderate his chat. She got her attention, but not the sort she expected.

>> No.17759044

>>17758987
Whatever you say Mizuchi

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>>17758975
LOL THAT FUCKING ENGLISH FONT. ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THIS.

>> No.17759202

>>17749237
Chinks and zhangs: not even once.

>> No.17759206

Looks like the actual chinks found the thread.

>> No.17759208

>>17757991
I love chii-chan and I have even been membered to her for months but I honestly hate her fucking mods. I got timed out because I misspelled her name once on accident by one of those faggots jannies.

>> No.17759237

>>17759042
Her model was originally made for her past life lol. Pretty sure she only made "Mizuchi" a thing so she'd be able to keep talking to Luca publicly, since her past life had too many interactions with his.

>> No.17759286

>>17758975
>choose us or your gf
why is it alwasy a zero sum with these people
if he bends they are going to get a powerrush and demand anything from him. he doesnt and will get wheelbarrowed until next year.

>> No.17759392

>>17758725
Spics are the sleeping giant that nobody talks about. More powerful than the Zhangs and the SEAniggers put together. An apocalyptic force just waiting to be unleashed.

>> No.17759443

>>17759286
at this point they must just feel like they can get anyone to kowtow to them if they brigade hard enough for how often these things happen

>> No.17759445

>>17758633
No, Luca is too pussy to speak up so his mod is taking the blame.

>> No.17759516

>>17759445
>niji MALES
>are pussies
ironic

>> No.17759573

>>17759445
He needs chat rules. And those chat rules need to be translated into Chinese.

>> No.17759592

>>17759516
It's time for him to start becoming a man.

>> No.17759631

>>17758914
All of them are “bad”. It’s about choosing to fight “evil” with another kind of “evil”.

>> No.17759641

>>17759237
So they're probably dating irl, huh? It would explain why she was acting so anal in chat with all those girls thirsting over her boyfriend. Luca's a moron for modding someone he's fucking though.

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>>17749237
Welp, time for anykara to do the anticipated "split" of their chink side of the company, let their wings fly on their own and see how far will they make it before the CCP ask kindly to give them their IRL IDs in order to work appropriately.

>> No.17759650

>>17759592
If he can handle this issue well, he can be a true man

>> No.17759704

>>17759392
They're poor. That makes them useless. The kings will always been Japan and China because they spend money like it's water.

>> No.17759735

>>17758403
>seething because dudes gets more views than their Oshi that plays Minecraft for the 5th time this week.

>> No.17759796

>>17758633
>the boys are so fuckingscared of controlling their chat becasue it will make them lose the femal viewers.
So just like the regular female Vtubers?

>> No.17759798

>>17759573
He made chat rules. Part of the CN rage was also him outright saying "I trust my mods. Don't lie to me.", so he's clearly capable of putting his foot down. I have no idea what that anon means.

>> No.17759804

>>17755126
HoloEN males will be full of negros, a natural Chinese-girl repellant

>> No.17759830

>>17749237
>CN fans are getting on your nerves
>You are a Luxiem fan
Those two statements aren't compatible. Zhangs are like 90% if their audience.

>> No.17759845

>>17759641
Mizuchi lives on the other side of the planet, and past life comments very much confirm she's not dating him. She might be overprotective, but that isn't why.

>> No.17759854

>>17759650
i dont think there is a middle ground here. He needs to throw some one under the buss or managemnt will throw someone under.
Any of those choices are his GF that has no affiliate to the company or a bunch of horny children that he cant communicate with.
There isnt a "handling well" here.

>> No.17759898

>>17759804
>Cover hires negros who play NBA2K for HolostarsEN
I would actually kneel

>> No.17759974

>>17759798
It seems Luca himself accepted the emoji posts while the mod not
And it sounded to some people that the mods were going to take over the control from him

>> No.17759982

>>17759845
Damn, so she's just a beta orbiter? That is one supremely cucked woman.

>> No.17760032

>>17759854
Honestly the Chinese are unicorns so he only really has one choice

>> No.17760037

>>17759982
>cucked
She's married, anon

>> No.17760040

>>17759796
I see you don't watch streams

>> No.17760042

>>17759830
Not entirely. Japanese are part of their senpai base as well.

>> No.17760092

>>17759898
>Entire gen are so entitled to NBA2K that they convince Yagoo to make an eSports team
>Hololive Gamers exposed once again
I would flip my shit

>> No.17760114

>>17759704
I was talking about them being more powerful than Zhangs and SEAniggers as far as being an absolute cancerous fanbase. Not an actual good fanbase, lol.

>> No.17760124

>>17759854
Management will throw the gf away. In the end the chinks are paying the bills.

>> No.17760188

>>17760124
And the chinks have brought in a fuck ton of money in a single month holy shit.

>> No.17760215

>>17760114
That I agree with. I don't know if it's something in the water or the language barrier but every spic I've seen online acts like they have actual mental deficiencies.

>> No.17760272

>>17760040
>I see you don't watch streams
So I imagined Gura acting like a pussy when people went to Fubuki’s chat talking about her getting 1 million first? Explain to me in detail why she didn’t say anything then? Also how about during that AMONGUS collab where her comment section was saying Hololive members only killed her because they were jealous? why didn’t her bitch ass say something then?

>> No.17760295

>>17759974
>it sounded to some people that the mods were going to take over the control from him
This is retarded lol
Worst case scenario they do something he doesn't like and he has to tell them to stop. Otherwise he picked them out, he clearly trusts their judgement, you should just listen.
It's not like they permabanned anyone, people were just prevented from talking for a few minutes. Get over it.

>> No.17760338

>>17755573
She shouldn't be modding from an account that she's running her own vtuber channel from anyway. It's retarded and was bound to bring drama at some point.

>> No.17760344

>>17760037
>simping over another man when you're married
So she's a disloyal slut. Yeah, then she deserves whatever the fuck the chinks are doing to her. Their reasoning is wrong, but harrassing a whore is always okay.

>> No.17760377

>>17758914
t.Indog

>> No.17760424

>>17760124
the problem is the aftermath imo. And what the chinese fans will do after getting aknowdlege that they can bend the talent or management at their will.
Those guys are too demanding sometimes.

>> No.17760467

>>17760338
I'm just amazed at how much of a fucking doormat Luca must be to allow his 'friend' to blatantly leech off of his fame in an attempt to redebut. Someone get that kid some real friends.

>> No.17760502

Get ready for an announcement from the Niji twitter about how the problematic mod is gone and how they are sorry to the Chinese for any misunderstanding and frustration.

>> No.17760561

>>17760424
That's just how you operate business in China. You go in and make as much money as possible before you finally make a yab too big that gets you kicked out.

>> No.17760581

>>17758124
Are people who post shit like this women or gay dudes?

>> No.17760748

>>17760581
They're horny autistic teenage girls with no self worth

>> No.17760775

>>17760581
Yes

>> No.17760804

>>17760581
Women. Women are the ones who grope male celebs and get surprised when they're told to back off.

>> No.17760838

>>17760502
Niji management definitely needs to provide some announcement and apology for misunderstanding and frustration, especially from Chinese fanbase
However I don't think Niji has to fire her.
Instead it would be better to announce that they will provide training for mods and double-work wth experienced members (livers are desirable) when she goes back to the mob job
After all she needs to get used to YT culture, and this can also show that the company will not 100% accept the claim from the fan base

>> No.17760899

>>17760581
Judging from Twitter anime fandoms who have the same names definitely women.

>> No.17760930

>>17760502
lol k

>> No.17760933

>>17760424
Yes, and if they aren't satisfied they escalate.
A hoard of Chinese antis coming for his pure smile terrifies me.

>> No.17760945

>>17760581
>being gay
>on china
is women

>> No.17760977

>>17759704
Which is why an ES branch will never be a thing. It’s just not profitable enough.

>> No.17761056

>>17760581
Women. Men are more depraved in general, but do so in private or in the company of other men. There's not enough social stigma yet against women's sexuality, because women's sexuality is seen as desirable instead of gross, so women are free to be as sexual as they want in public.
I don't see this double standard changing any time soon unless men become less horny and enough of them start taking issue with it.

>> No.17761083

>>17760838
Shes not even fucking employed by Niji. They should just dump her and hire Luca a mod on salary or some bullshit.
Now that they think she's racist against the Chinese they'll never stop

>> No.17761144

Luca's still getting a fuck ton of HK and Taiwan (so, the places mainlanders would VPN to to use YouTube) superchats, so I think he's gonna be fine.
People assuming ANY controversy will go the way of Coco are retards btw. That was very specific, very few things get people that mad. Still retarded to be clear, but not common.

>> No.17761177

>>17760945
People in China don't know what 'cocksleeve' even means. It's definitely western women with the weird names. The chinese fangirls are probably sexually harassing them in completely different ways though.

>> No.17761202

>>17760215
It’s something with the newer generations being far too annoying.

>> No.17761215

>>17761056
>Men are more depraved in general
lol

>> No.17761231

>>17760838
that wont be enough
is like when holo apologized and said they would traing their talent better after the 2 month suspension.
they want her gone and she is not even employed. She is getting expelled.

>> No.17761305

>>17761144
Imagine most of the Chinese fans aren't even on twitter and don't even know any of this is happening. Is this the equivalent of how the Mori drama blew up on /vt/ but nobody else gave a shit?

>> No.17761463

I am on both Weibo, bilibili and other Chinese sites. Trust me, the fans know and they are mad

>> No.17761488

>>17761215
All I know is that the weirdest porn out there is mostly marketed towards men. Most pedophile are men. Most murderers are men. Most rapists are men etc.
Doesn't matter to me, since they lower the bar for my behavior and make me look better, but yeah. Dudes are depraved.

>> No.17761525

>>17761231
So, basically, this whole thing ruined her indie career and therefore, any chance of getting into Nijisanji.

>> No.17761539

>>17761144
>That was very specific, very few things get people that mad
siding with someone that made "chinese bad" comments is one of those. And how non chinese fans are reacting to their little meltdown are getting punished.
https://twitter.com/cfnkis/status/1489660374198546433/photo/2

>> No.17761579

>>17761463
Links and screenshots or you're a faggot.

>> No.17761582

>>17761463
The only proper proof will come from his SC revenue. If it starts dropping, then yeah, he's fucked.
Anyway, choose your mods wisely kiddos, and if you can't do that, don't stream in China.

>> No.17761677

>>17761582
>don't stream in China.
He didn't.

>> No.17761684

>>17761582
currently at 7k viewers with a ton of super chats, he will be fine

>> No.17761718

>>17761677
Luxiem certainly wasn’t expecting to have so much success in the SEA region…

>> No.17761740

>>17761539
*And how non chinese fans are reacting to their little meltdown and are not getting punished.

>> No.17761803

>>17761677
Okay fine, don't stream 'to a Chinese audience'.
Not that he can really control that, but he should have known when he joined Niji.

>> No.17761839

>>17759573
>Chinese
>following rules
Pick one and only one

>> No.17761906

>>17761144
The Coco controversy was orchestrated by Bilibili itself which is why it became so big despite other vtubers having said Taiwan before. Something like that will only happen again if Bilibili wants Nijisanji out of China like they did with Cover.

>> No.17761908

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Nm4y1Z7nS

there is like 6000+ comments in Chinese, so use auto translate

>> No.17761915
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>>17761582
It's not his fans that will make a ruckus, but the "fans". It has always been like that.

>> No.17761942

>>17761803
I don't think NijiEN management expects Luxiem would have so much Chinese audience
They must have purely focused on NA/EU fanbase

>> No.17761990

>>17761718
They also made 0 attempt to get people on the west after founding the fujos.
>>17761915
pretty much this. is the casual watchers that want mizu head and a former AND QUICK apology

>> No.17762144

Based chinese femcels absolutely humiliating NijiEN

>> No.17762216

>>17761144
>>17761906
This is the most accurate. His mod is fucked, probably can't debut under that avatar and might have a hard time if they ever get into niji if her voice is associated with the account already, but he's fine. So long as he doesn't say anything else about it it'll blow over for him and the company. The only way he could fuck things up is he if started saying stuff about it again or if anyone at niji acknowledges it.

Sometime will eventually happen that gets them into huge trouble there, but it's probably not gonna be anything related to this.

>> No.17762245

>>17761990
>They also made 0 attempt to get people on the west after founding the fujos.
It's not like they pandered to Asians intentionally either.

>> No.17762314

>>17755463
Yes, it means the other side is a minority

>> No.17762319

>>17761942
I think it really does says a lot about the so called "manjisanji" success when the reality is the ones who brought them up here are not their target market but if you try to cater to target market you'd probably fail because they're too busy watching female ones instead

>> No.17762397

>>17761677
He can start moving back to streaming mainly in EN hours now if he isn't interested in CN fans. See how it goes after a month
(Hint: it won't go well, JP and CN / TW were a major force behind Luxiem's success)

>> No.17762402

I wonder how Enna feels about all this.

>> No.17762406

>>17762245
vox pretty much dropped, samsh, dark souls,sekiro and streaming at burger hours.
he is now a genshin hide and seek player with sims4 and horror rpgmaker in the side.

>> No.17762447

>>17761990
This also means that the NA audience is ripe for the taking by Cover with their own males if they play their cards right. StarsEN would be going unopposed since their biggest competitor found success elsewhere and dumped the west once they saw all that SEA money. Funny how things turned out.

>> No.17762490

>>17762216
It sucks since her model is pretty good and she has decent tastes in games. But it'll probably work out for her if she lays low for a few weeks, uses a different account with a new model, and saves her debut until later in the year.

>> No.17762493

>>17762402
Pretty sure Enna is born and raised in Canada. She's not going to have the same weirdness about "hurting the feelings of the Chinese people"

>> No.17762590

>>17762245
>It's not like they pandered to Asians intentionally either.
Look at their streaming schedule and what they stream during EN vs Asia hours. They definitely are doing it intentionally

>> No.17762672

Yikes… welp Good luck with those chinks they will be an annoyinh cancer for quite some time
T.tatsunoko/ksonfag

>> No.17762677

>>17762447
Market will be oversaturated by then. Burger fujos are already loyal to luxiem, it's just that SEA and China fujos are much more aggressive and populous. It would take a lot to rip them away from nijisanji's friendly culture now.

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>>17761908
Well I've got great news for Shu!
And he's actually smart enough not to fuck this up.

>> No.17762763

>>17762677
I doubt amerimutts are into luxiem that much imo, also the more idol structure of StarsEN can expand their reach more than Nijimales

>> No.17762783

>>17762590
>Look at their streaming schedule
Luca is Australian, Vox and Mysta are British, and Ike is Swedish. They're just streaming in their own timezones.
The only thing I could maybe see is Vox playing Genshin, but he hasn't done that for a week anyway.
>>17762672
Nah, that only happened to the level it did because they ALREADY hated Coco for other reasons.

>> No.17762851

>>17762490
Yeah, she also seems very sweet and it's shitty she's taking all the blame for the situation. I'm not sure a few weeks will do it if >>17761539 this kind of stuff is being spread around. If she waits a few weeks she'll probably get rushed, if she waits maybe year she might be okay, but even then it only takes a few people spamming to social media that she's back for her debut.

So long as Luca is active it's likely at least a few people will be insane about it and try to rile people up again when she becomes active. It's shit but the types of fans mentally ill enough to want to murder her might stalk her for as long as they feel threatened by her.

>> No.17762852

>>17762447
>This also means that the NA audience is ripe for the taking by Cover with their own males if they play their cards right
Dream on, Holofags. The reason Luxiem switched their focus to Asia market was because EN Fujo market is way weaker and largely unexposed to male VTubers. Not saying that it's impossible for male VTubers to success, but you are going to hit a brick wall. Good luck trying to crack it

>> No.17762907

>>17762590
That's partially true, but also the NijiEN boys aren't all centered around North America like the girls are. They have a variety of timezones and just stream whenever is good for them.
This timezone thing is another worrying parallel to Myth, and I already resent the fact that the girls have had to stream at awkward hours to accommodate the boys for certain collabs.

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>>17761908
Okay, this one is just a little bit based though.

>> No.17763043

>>17762852
>Dream on, Holofags. The reason Luxiem switched their focus to Asia market was because EN Fujo market is way weaker and largely unexposed to male VTubers. Not saying that it's impossible for male VTubers to success, but you are going to hit a brick wall. Good luck trying to crack it
I'm a nijinigger but let's admit it that stars is on good position to expand well into EN and imo they won't even need fujos to do that!

>> No.17763046

>>17762929
Still can't believe they took Chinese as the language to mean people, lmao.

>> No.17763064

>>17762852
There's been a lot of 70k-150k male vtubers that get numbers in America. They have good voices, ability to talk endlessly, and models that set them apart, but otherwise are pretty ordinary. It's possible they can still hit an american market with the right marketing like those guys did.

I'll probably personally still watch Luxiem, though. They missed the boat by not having the first wave.

>> No.17763125

>>17763046
>I don't speak ebonics
Lmaoooo just imagine though.

>> No.17763218

>>17763125
That would have been fucking insane lol

>> No.17763225

uhm... doomposter-chamas... He already made 5k today and his stream isn't even done yet...

>> No.17763267

>>17762783
Well, I will give Luca benefit of the doubt. However, Vox and Mysta definitely aren't streaming British hours, though, unless you are calling 1:00PM good British time (outside of collabs, they mainly start around 10-12:00 PM JST = 12:00-2:00PM London) in the last 2-3 weeks.

>> No.17763311

It's Truman fault

>> No.17763329

>fujos pretending they're not the craziest ones in the room

>> No.17763361

>>17763064
Yeah I think starsEN can crack NA with male chuubas with bro relatable feelings, this way they can win both newfemfags and holofags from the girls fanbase without the excessive problem Nijimales had to deal with

>> No.17763374

>>17759237
>past life
how the hell did you guys figure that shit out

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>>17749237
Based chinks. I hope Luxiem and NijiEn are destroyed by them

>> No.17763429

>>17763225
taiwan and hongkong money to "comfort" him from the drama, they support anything that mainlanders hate

>> No.17763497

>>17762677
>Burger fujos are already loyal to Luxiem
Luxiem has practically 0 burger audience.

>> No.17763640

https://youtu.be/OtWZlsa7nfQ
Come join.
Zhang together strong

>> No.17763700

It's barely been 2 months and Luxiem is already being torn apart by their majority zhang fanbase. I'l loling.

>> No.17763726

>>17763429
That is fucking hilarious.
But to be honest, I would never spend that much on something just to spite chinks. Why does every country in the general east asia area have such awful nationalism issues (except maybe Japan due to the whole oops we're war criminals thing)?

>> No.17763730

>>17763700
ESLchama...

>> No.17763777

>>17763726
anon that was obviously bait…

>> No.17763788

>>17763726
>except maybe Japan
they all hate each other.

>> No.17763801

>>17762763
>>17763497
I know a few women that were into them at debut but were more into Mysta and Vox. They fell off because of time zone issues and didn't really give a shit about Luca or Ike. Luca seems to have a pretty alright burger audience, but they probably need more than one guy in their timezone to really grab that audience.

>> No.17763803

>>17763497
Yeah NA only cares about Hololive and Vshojo. Niji NA audience is really small in comparison

>> No.17763872

>>17763374
I'd answer, but I realized there's probably crazy CN "fans" on the board right now who'd use it to go after her. Better safe than sorry.

>> No.17763907

>>17763640
>9k viewers
>lined with red sc from chink vpn countries
Looks like none of his fans who were actually giving him superchats gave a fuck about the twitter drama. Another nothing burger.

>> No.17763912

>>17763640
9k viewers
But Holobros told me they were a failure?

>> No.17763915

The doomposting didn't work.
Earlier people threatened that if he didn't apologize he's going to lose SC money from them. Some yumes freaked out about this because they don't want to be implicated in the shitstorm so they spammed back to support him and also bombarded him with superchats immediately to show they didn't give a shit whether he said something about it or not.
Sorry holosisters, please wait for another drama.

>> No.17763925

>>17763803
Yep, Niji fanbase has always been the far east for ages and nope NijiEN gals didn't really change that fact at all

>> No.17763942

>>17763803
Their Among Us collab basically proved that, while its not as big (Vox got 6k when he gets 7-8k during his usual time), they definitely have an audience outside SEA and CN.

>> No.17763951

>>17763777
no for real though.... check the currency of these sc, and I also lurked Taiwanese forums

>> No.17763981

>>17763803
Their models don't seem as NA appealing as holoens did to burgers, maybe. I passed up on Niji during the first wave just because the art style wasn't as appealing. The shiny look was a little off putting next to how the holoens looked. A lot of people in NA like the omocat look for better and for worse.

>> No.17764008

>>17763872
The CN fans probably already got that information and spread it on their own image boards, you know that right? That's why she went private. She's already been doxxed.

>> No.17764053

>>17763803
The NijiEN girls at least got some penetration of the NA market. You can tell from the superchats. The girls get majority USD when it comes to superchats and it isn't even close. Luxiem, on the other hand, get very little USD superchats especially compared to HK and TWD.

>> No.17764084

>>17763951
I mean there's no real way to tell if sc are from taiwan, hong kong, or china, since chinese fans vpn from taiwan and hong kong anyway. Statistically speaking, it's most likely china.

>> No.17764085

Fuck the chinks and the genocidal, pooh bear games.

>> No.17764123

>>17764008
It's possible, but I didn't see twitter spam about it when I searched the name at least.

>> No.17764125

>>17764053
I wonder if tsunmales has better NA penetration than Luxiem

>> No.17764352

>>17763640
B-but thread told me CHINKS BAD?? I thought Luxiem is cancelled???

Hololive fans being hypocrites now that they cant have Chinese support anymore after being majorly propelled by chinks into relevancy is pretty amusing.

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>>17761908
this person said Luca respond to her dm lol
>Private message response from luca: Thanks for letting me know, I was well informed and didn't underestimate it at all. I still can't believe it happened and all I want to do is post content that makes people happy. But one thing I'm curious about is what exactly they want me to apologize for and do with my hosts. I can think of a lot of things but if you can check with me please let me know I would appreciate it.

>> No.17764442

>>17764085
I'll be honest, I don't actually give a fuck about the genocide. I kinda expect atrocities from world superpowers because they all do it. I just want the Chinese economy to take a bit of a hit because Chinese investors keep driving up housing prices in my area.

>> No.17764521

I love when I read a /vt/ thread advertising a graduation-inducing drama and half way through it's proven to be a nothingburger

>> No.17764529

>>17749237
Serves them right for catering to chinks at all.
Those bug people should be left alone.

>> No.17764594

>>17762852
Luxiem was aiming at NA market, hit the wall for a bit and found SEA instead. It’s a bittersweet tale.
>Dream on
Don’t worry, that wall WILL be cracked.

>> No.17764604

>>17764521
/vt/ is just latching onto this because there are chinks involved and they have a chink-level obsession with chinks. It's never actually about the drama itself.

>> No.17764676

>>17764594
The NA female market is a nightmare. 4/5 of them would just get cancelled by twitter for yaoi baiting.

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>>17749237
>chinese fans have now resorted to doxxing luca's mod teams, at this rate there's no saving the chinks
Holo:First time?

>> No.17764718

>>17764594
I wish LOL. But Holofags keep demanding for vtubers with "manlier" or "more relatable" designs instead of pretty anime boys so they don't feel faggy watching them. They're just as clueless about the market as everyone else.

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>>17764390
>israel

>> No.17764785

>>17764390
He seems like a good guy. Hope this whole situation ends up ok for him

>> No.17764850

>>17764749
Great, but they won't be satisfied until she's out of the picture.

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It's over for him sisters...
He'll never recover from this...

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>>17764676
in the first week they debuted vox had some tumblr refugees tried to make a big callout about him being kind of a jerk that amounted to 'he interacted with his female fans that makes him potentially a misogynistic rapist' and it died on the vine, it was very embarassing for all involved. now chinese fujos give him money for making gorilla noises and screaming about trains on stream. sorry burgerbros we lost, sex is going to be outlawed in 10 years

>> No.17764944

>>17764876
Graduation when?

>> No.17764965

>>17764850
She's already outing herself of the picture mostly. I think it should be pretty obvious she and Luca coordinated behind the screen. I guess it's ironically kinda beneficial that they knew each other in their past life because they can just discuss faking some scenario to quieten the schizos.

>> No.17764973

>>17764718
no hololive fan wants EN vtubers in the first place, no idea where you got that idea from

>> No.17764980

>>17764594
>Luxiem was aiming at NA market, hit the wall for a bit and found SEA instead.
Untrue, they seemed to aim for the SEA market from the get-go. Go back and look at Luxiem's debut week schedule. Vox, Mysta, and Luca were streaming during SEA hours starting from Day 1.

>> No.17764995

>>17764676
literally this LMAO, /vt/ likes to act that chinks are bad, but NA and their politics are about as incendiary and petty as chinks are. Chinks certainty arent gonna be the ones looking through a PL's twitter like to find something from 2011 to cancel over. (happened day-one with Vox, nothing-burger though)

>> No.17764998

>>17764749
Luca why are you so dumb. Why are you so dumb for real. I can't believe this guy is the first Luxiem dramallama before fucking MYSTA.

>> No.17765072

>>17764965
i just have no fucking clue how she thought this would turn out differently, if she really is married irl its super fucking weird to be this protective over your adult male friend.

id say all vtubers from japanese agencies profit from a bfe/gfe experience shit, having a female mod who's an 'old friend' that tries to direct the best way for chat to jack off is a recipe for disaster, christ

>> No.17765082

>>17751165
>still calls himself Tatsunokek
Falseflagger confirmed

>> No.17765102

>>17764995
NA fandom is way fucking worse because theyre afraid of their own genitals imho, all the chinese fujos are at least insanely up front of why theyre here.

>> No.17765103

>>17764998
Mysta's method is to be so yab that nothing sticks because it's all yab.
Luca's crime is associating with an annoying mod while also not being yab himself

>> No.17765160

>>17764995
Chink drama will never get that bad until the nationalists and the government get roped in. China is also a bit of a corporate hellscape so if you step on the toes of tencent or bilibili (ex. Hololive), then they might manufacture some drama and kick you out. Normal Chinese fans though are quite forgiving. I think a Chinese male idol had to literally rape multiple women to suffer significant backlash to his career.

>> No.17765163

>>17764980
See >>17762783
Those guys you mentioned specifically were and are just streaming to their timezones.

>> No.17765231

>>17765072
How old is Luca? His language puts him in zoomer category. He sounds like a teenager, early twenties at most. How long has he known this married friend of his again?

>> No.17765232

>>17749237
>China
You should have known how stupid they are
>Chinese women
That's the worst kind of Chinese to piss off

>> No.17765259

>>17765072
eeeh, idk, its usually much easier for girls to act platonic towards their male friends
I dont really find it particularly weird at all that she is this invested over a job a friend entrusted her with, especially as a vtuber herself.

>> No.17765266

this thread is infested with bugs, fujos and trannies, what an abysmal combination

>> No.17765272

>>17765103
>Luca's crime is associating with an annoying mod while also not being yab himself
Too Chinky,please try again.

>> No.17765322

>>17765231
He's definitely young, he's living with his parents and talks like a zoomer.
I can't tell if mizuchi is a hag that has been secretly grooming him all this time

>> No.17765350

>>17764995
>Chinks certainty arent gonna be the ones looking through a PL's twitter like to find something from 2011 to cancel over.
Lmao

>> No.17765356

How about we don't dox Luca. Just be happy that he is getting a lot of support despite what the schizo chinese said.

>> No.17765369

>>17765249

>> No.17765389

>>17765259
to me the job is what makes it weird because if she knew literally anything about the gig i feel like she would at least try to act less personal in-stream or not mention their friendship, because again
>having a female mod who's an 'old friend' that tries to direct the best way for chat to jack off is a recipe for disaster, christ

>> No.17765419

>>17765163
At any case, most fans and members don't seem Chinese to me looking at the chat (you can identify Chinese accounts and Chinese engrish easily), and most of them still retain higher numbers than most Niji girls even when they stream outside Asia hours.
However, most or at least a plurality of superchatters do seem to be mostly drawn from mainland/Taiwan/HK. Most don't seem to be particularly political though judging from Luca's SC earning now.

>> No.17765428

>>17765163
Anonchama, Amerifats don't understand the concept of timezones, simple as. The world revolves around them

>> No.17765492

>>17765369
>buffing an asian kusoge favorite
>why is he doing well
man they are going to be EXTRA chink next stream that he doesnt get a buff game.

>> No.17765519

>>17765369
Idk what the Chinese fujos expected. I'm sure more people are coming out for Lucas stream today because it's a weekend and they want to support him knowing all the drama thats happened in the past few days.

>> No.17765521

>>17765389
But if she does that she won't be able to shill her indie vtuber account.
Ignoring the whole Chinese drama, I don't think she should be a mod simply because she's leeching and too personal. That's the bigger issue.

>> No.17765522

>>17765419
the amount of disposable income chinese people is baffling to me as an amerifat, i used to work at a game store in a college town and once a day i would get a guy who barely spoke english who would buy a ps4 and $1000 dollars worth of games and accessories, barely would even read what he was buying, just picking up whatever we had on display. unsettling shit

>> No.17765613

>>17765521
I'm with you on this one sister. It's incredibly unprofessional and it makes her look like she's taking advantage of him (which doesn't help her "brand")

>> No.17765683
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>this thread now that it's been proven that luca is doing perfectly fine, if not better by possibly strengthening his actual fanbase because of the chinks going full schizo
lmao

Also I think Mizuchi and Luca has already talked about it, she hasn't been seen in his chat since "the incident" and has private her Twitter. Before this we all agreed they are good friends based on their PL, they both streamed on Twitch and Mizuchi was almost always on Luca's stream. They both needed to adjust to YouTube etiquette. They got punished for not knowing and learned from it.

>> No.17765700

>>17765522
There's a reason why the chinks support their government and that reason is money.
Fuck, if my government leader fixed our housing crisis, improved public transportation, raised my wages, stopped the inflation of our currency, and turned our country into a world superpower I would cum in my pants.
The fact is that global politics is nothing compared to the politics that affect people directly. It's why the Chinese will back their government in shitting all over Taiwan and Hong Kong, but are upset about gaming regulations and feminism.

>> No.17765779

>>17765683
This happened last time too. Coco was making bank after becoming a target of China. When will the chinks learn to just shut up? Their internet culture of launching a fucking organized brigade against anything that displeases them does not translate to anything outside of China.

>> No.17765797

>>17765683
>>this thread now that it's been proven that luca is doing perfectly fine
if they let the frog boil is gonna be hell on earth. Coco also did reat on her return estream and luca is doing a favorite of Sea right now so he will do good.
But his tags on the other hadn tell the story of a ticking bomb

>> No.17765877

>>17765797
I had an aneurysm reading this, but his mod is getting all the hate not him. It's just people being upset for the sake of being upset.

Make it less obvious you are chink and just because you are hate raiding someone they will bend to your will.

>> No.17765914

>>17765797
Oh god this would be the stupidest fucking reason for Niji to be kicked out of CN. Starting from a fucking emoji, not even a single mention of Taiwan.

>> No.17765964

>>17765877
>t's just people being upset for the sake of being upset.
people will be mad if he sides with her. Thats why they want a concrete stance on his position they have him on the benefit of doubt until he makes another stance.
is stupid but so are the mainlanders since they cant let this things go.

>> No.17765970

>>17764125
I'm not sure if they even have a penetration of any kind to begin with.

>> No.17766091

>>17765964
If I were him I'd kick the mod. She's a leech anyway. The NA audience would accept it because they accept anything. The chinks would be elated and drown him in money. Everyone else would understand that even if it wasn't on purpose, she was still unprofessional and not a very good mod anyway.
He'd have to be a moron not to sacrifice her.
Too bad he's a moron.

>> No.17766096

>>17765914
ironically, Vox has been reading supachats from people saying they are "from taiwan" since week 1, he probably has said the the word "Taiwan" more than the amount most people do in their entire life in this month alone

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>>17766091
His ultimate strength ended up being his ultimate weakness.

>> No.17766134

>>17766091
She hasn't been seen in stream since the incident, and she changed her twitter profile to say "not affiliated to nijisanji".

>> No.17766137

>>17766096
he hasnt said taiwan most of the time. He reads the name mostly and coments on the SC.
Shit that they write sometimes is too cringe for even him.

>> No.17766150

>>17766091
>If I were him I'd kick the mod.
And Chink woman will demand more.

>> No.17766176

>>17766096
then why did the chinks sperg out when coco said it

>> No.17766202

>>17766091
This was written by chink hands.

>> No.17766300

>>17766091
yeah but bending to them alwasy make them demand more. is a lose lose situation no matter what with them.

>> No.17766302

>>17766202
Burgers can hate mizuchi too. But we hate her because she's a 2view leech, not because she offended our Chinese sensibilities.

>> No.17766344

>>17766176
different demographics? Maybe female chinks are as nationalist as the male ones.
Also the situation with Coco was more than just her saying the word but them thinking she said it to spite them (which she kinda did)

>> No.17766357

>>17766302
>our Chinese
c h i n k h a n d s

>> No.17766358

>>17766176
Coco showed an image that implied Taiwan is a country
Vox (and Mysta) just say the word Taiwan

>> No.17766359

>>17766176
From what I understand, Haachama did it first by accident and the chinks were a bit miffed. Coco then did it to cover for Haachama's mistake, and the chinks took that as her disrepecting them on purpose or mocking them or something?
Anyway, just Taiwan by itself won't do anything unless the nationalists find you.

>> No.17766413

>>17766202
>>17766357
Shut up Mizuchi. Stop grooming Luca and leeching off of him and go please your husband, you whore.

>> No.17766465

Sadly for the chinks, Luca is getting absolutely FLOODED in NT akasupas right now.

>> No.17766473

>>17766302
>not because she offended our Chinese sensibilities.
>our Chinese sensibilities.
Chink Chong Chink Chong

>> No.17766501

>>17766358
Also the fact that Coco is asian and clearly knows she isn't supposed to do that. While Mysta and Vox are clueless Europeans who don't know anything about it

>> No.17766578

>>17766473
There actually aren't any chinks in this thread. If you've seen how the chinks write english on twitter for example, they have a very specific form of bad grammar.
Don't let politics get in the way of shaming a leeching hag.

>> No.17766609

>>17766501
Not to mention both mysta and vox are literally retarded, so they can always play the retard card.

>> No.17766675

>>17766609
I mean they're mad at Luca right now and he's retarded too.

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>>17766091
>Too bad he's a moron.
Oh no sisters... how could we ever save him...

>> No.17766847

>>17766578
weird word choice is usually the biggest sign in my experience.
The sort that screams 'first result in the dictionary'

>>17766675
they are less mad at Luca and more at the mod, although they did get a but agitated when Luca said he trusted the mod's decisions

>> No.17766864

>>17766779
Jesus fuck. That doesn't include streamlabs, right?

>> No.17766900

>>17766864
Correct

>> No.17766959

>>17766779
I mean Coco's superchat was still flowing like a fountain when the chinks attacked her.

>> No.17766961

>>17766779
Yeah but he could keep that money, AND the Chink money. Right now he's getting a bonus because TW and HK are spiting the Chinks. He can double dip and get another round from the Chinks for kicking the mod. It's win-win!

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nearly 600 donations. More donations but smaller amounts per donation

>> No.17766988

>>17766971
>10k streamlabs donations
Holy shit, that one has no cut

>> No.17767029

>the chink which superchat generated the drama in the first place apologized and said it's a misunderstanding
It's over, dramafags. Kneel now. Go join the chinks seething in Weibo

>> No.17767039

>>17766988
This isn't streamlabs, this is from Playboard (Superchats).

>> No.17767056

>>17766176
3 things:
1. The stats page said countries, while if you just say "Taiwan" they can pretend you consider it part of the PRC
2. Haachama did it only a few hours before
3. They already really hated Coco for being an American (AN ENEMY!) in "their" company and for "corrupting" "their" idols
The stars basically aligned to fuck Coco over specifically. Not that drama can't happen, but it's rarely that big.

>> No.17767121

https://twitter.com/hiulaamtam92421/status/1489629027552088064

Original super chatter on Twitter apologizing too.

>> No.17767134

>>17764876
So it's just Holobabs being retarded.

>> No.17767220

>>17767121
>It was a fucking HKer
Kek

>> No.17767248

>>17767134
No. Just /vt/ being retarded (as usual)

>> No.17767250

>>17767056
Oh, and one more thing:
It can't be overstated how much credit BiliBili fans took for Hololive's success and up until the EN fanbase boom, they weren't even REALLY wrong, although they were still unreasonable.
They felt like her not immediately apologizing, her not being fired, the BiliBili apology saying Cover "supported One China" while others didn't, etc. was disrespecting them and they deserved better, which isn't even an argument anyone would make for any part of Nijisanji (aside from VR, but BiliBili partially owns that anyway, it's different)

>> No.17767282

>>17767220
It's probably a mainlander who uses hk dollars for superchat since they can't use mainland money. But still

>> No.17767339

>>17767282
They literally have an HK flag in their twitter profile.

>> No.17767353

>>17767134
/vt/ being retarded but basically synonymous to a point. Luca already squashed this shit yesterday at the end of his Pummel Party stream and the Mizuchi shit literally does not matter unless you're one of those mainland chinks looking for something else to pretend to get mad about. Now the thread has just timelooped back to 2020fags talking about their chink obsession and Coco lol.

>> No.17767401

>>17766501
>Coco is Asian and clearly knows she isn't supposed to do that
Did non-chinks really suppose to know about their chink whang bing bang politics?

>> No.17767529

>>17767056
>"their" company and for "corrupting" "their" idols
It was pretty interesting how heavily aligned the chinks were to Hololive instead of VirtualReal or NijiJP until this incident, considering that Nijisanji was still bigger than Holo at that point in time. IIRC The Chinese fanbase pushed hard for Hololive, even to point of making English subbed clips.
The support for Nijisanji was nowhere close to that.

>> No.17767567

>>17767401
They know but they don't have to care about it. A lot of Asian countries have their own tiny inconsequential things none of the other countries care about. For example, Korea is really anal about what people call kimchi, and the Sea of Japan. They will have a meltdown if the wrong name is used.

>> No.17767720

>>17767529
Yeah. You'll get called a chink for saying it in much of the board, but BiliBili was literally the main thing keeping Hololive alive in its early years, and their clippers are what made it get big with the algorithm (them all being on one channel probably helped a lot there).

>> No.17767951

>>17767529
The majority of this board are completely ignorant of Meaqua and how much of a juggernaut unit it was for chinks because they only got into vtubers after the Youtube algo had been taken over.

>> No.17767953

>>17767720
Oh yea, the biggest Hololive engsub channel was owned by chinks, right?
They practically acted as the official English Hololive channel back then.

>> No.17767999

>>17767953
Yep, Hololive Moments
Was really funny to see them say they wouldn't support Hololive anymore unless they fired Coco and then having their entire fanbase turn on them
I don't know what they expected kek

>> No.17768037

>>17766675
They're mad at his mod, they seem to still love him and be trying to get him to fire her. They're placing all the blame on her at this point. If Luca ignores it he'll be fine. If he "sides" with her again in their eyes he'd probably just get more hate directed towards her, not him.

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water dragon where

>> No.17768335

>>17758122
Hololive’s stance on mods is that the talents are responsible for this. Kiara rotates mods every month and has never had any problems.

>> No.17768524

I hate the bugs so goddamn much. I just want to enjoy vtubers

>> No.17768557

>>17768335
No, thay do not give power to talents about mod. Lyger is special and rare case

>> No.17768621

>>17768335
It's the same with Nijisanji. Mizuchi (Luca's mod) has already said that she isn't affiliated at all to Niji. But yeah, the dudes could learn a thing or two about who they mod and how their mods act from this.

>> No.17768727

>>17767720
> Chinese was did nothing
> Hololive was famous because JP who know English, En who know JP and SEAniggers

Hololivemoment just 1 channel and never big that much. Bilibili never keep Hololive actually they fucked Hololive more than good. ( look at 7% revenue before minus cost)

I will repeat again
>Hololive never indebt to Bilibili and Holomoment
> Chinks always say " free entertain" and not sent sc at all
> JP,EN and SEAniggers help them not chink.

>> No.17768742

>>17768621
Kiara is pretty strict with her mods, she has the following rules: You must make a new youtube account just for modding, you are never allowed to use your mod account for chatting and she will revoke your mod status if you delete non-offensive messages.

>> No.17769008

>>17767999
I'm still sad about the whole situation because all my fave clips are from there, peko's especially

>>17768727
if anything, HLM helped with the algorithm, >>17767951 was because of HLM, before HLM and its meltdown I (possibly) never saw clipper channel specialize on holos, if I tried to remember all I can think about is mio's clipper

and boy do I miss all the kino clips from HLM era, almost all of them are funny and/or actually entertaining, now it's all about click baiting people

>> No.17769063

>>17768742
Honestly, that's completely reasonable. The only "mods" that should interact with the streamer and the chat should be other streamers (that they're friends with) as well. Again, I just hope they all learn from this

>> No.17769161

>>17766961
But...will he actually do that? He has known his mod for quite some time.

>> No.17769177

>>17749237
This is why you don't do business with chinks

>> No.17769278

>>17768727
lol

>> No.17769411

>>17764980
Which would make them more like...NijiSEA instead of EN.

>> No.17769506

>>17764676
All they need to do is to make sure they hire proper people and learn from Luxiem's blunders.

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