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Why isn't Aki successful? She's sweet, funny, entertaining, and just the right amount of lewd without stumbling head-first off the edge ala Kiara. Is it just that early hologen debuff?

>> No.17734642

>>17734436
Lots of accidental debuffs

>> No.17734801

>>17734436
she streamed nothing but ARK for 6 months straight and never recovered

>> No.17735240

>>17734801
I know this isn't the best example but Choco plays nothing but Apex and pulls better numbers than Aki.

>> No.17735255

Her voice isn't ASMR-y, nor is it overly cute and she has a lot of dead air when she streams. That's pretty much it, I like Aki but she's not going to appeal to casual audiences very much

>> No.17735290

>>17735240
Choco still has relatively low numbers.

>> No.17735330

>>17735290
Hence it not being the best example. Choco is hardly blowing up YouTube but she's doing better than Aki.

>> No.17735367

>>17735240
Choco is one of the worst performing holomems month after month, not sure she makes for a good counterpoint.

>> No.17735630

>>17734436
Holo gen 1st didn't start well. A couple of issues that could've killed the companym
She also had some health issues iirc, and at debut that was fatal and killed the interest and trust in her from then on.
She had to live in the shadow of FBK, and Matsuri, and to a lesser extent Haachama too, who are some of the biggest talents even to this day, and after gen 2 and 3 there were already too many competitors. She didn't really find an audience, and tried all sorts of things to appeal but didn't seem to work. If there's a good thing that came out of the rapid expansion of the hololive trend was saving Akirose. Look at her Holotalk to hear that last part from her.
At least now she seems quite content with her stance.
She deserves better for sure, she's a treasure.

>> No.17737163 [DELETED] 

>>17734436
ARK arc

>> No.17737591

>hip injury shortly after debut forced her to take an extended break right after debut killed all her momentum
>Susan's war on ASMR killed her main niches
>odd streaming hours
>barely any collabs
>she did nothing but 7-hour ARK streams for months an end

>> No.17737917

>>17737591
War on ASMR?

>> No.17738013

>>17737917
YouTube hates vtuber ASMR. Choco is the best example. If you want to be an ear-licking ASMR whore, you gotta be 3D.

>> No.17738120

>>17737917
There was a time were ASMR streams would get flagged/demonetized/shadowbanned, it's also why Choco gets shit numbers too.

It has gotten better lately but most ASMR-centric vtubers either diversified their content or completely dropped ASMR.

>> No.17738193

Are people here so new that they don’t realize streaming Ark 8 hours a day + mukirose meme + Coco is what saved her? Am I the only person left who actually watched her stream Monopoly alone by herself to less than 500 viewers before all that? I don’t care if you’re new but if you are don’t talk about things you don’t know about.

>> No.17738581

>>17738193
I was there too. Well, i remember very much not tuning into her monopoly streams.

Aki's main strength was her dancing and asmr. She had to cut back on both.

I'm also like one of the ten fags on the internet who loves her Kokia cover.

>> No.17739683

>>17734436
She sucks at self promotion. Yeah she's had a lot of setbacks but she's also had a lot of second chances that she failed to capitalize on. I mean her channel name is solely in Japanese ffs and her schedule, when she posts one, is usually just an image with no English translation. I know she appreciates her eop fans by how much she indulges our bullshit but I'm also pretty sure she has no idea how to leverage that into more views.

>> No.17740086

>>17734436
It's the getting hit by a car debuff.

>> No.17741333

>>17739683
Image managers are a thing that I'm surprised no one has told her about. Someone needs to get this bitch on-track, assuming she even wants that.

>> No.17741484

>>17738193
cocofags think their orange woman is this omnipotent god responsible for everything good that has ever happened to hololive

>> No.17742233

>>17738193
Not really. She did start to incline with Ark, but her solo Ark streams still averaged only 1.5-2k live viewers, it wasn't until she started collabing with the other Ark addicts that she started getting 5k live views on her Ark streams

>> No.17742300

Simply too many others to choose from, not everyone can be the popular one.

>> No.17742575
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17742575

>>17734436
She's boring compared to what came after

>> No.17742934

>>17742575
nice falseflagging, cuckbeat

>> No.17742958

>>17742934
Why are cumbuds like this

>> No.17743122

>>17742934
Falseflagging? Put Aki next to Pekora, Aqua, or Nene and there's no competition. It's an unfortunate truth but she still seems happy with what she has.

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17743303

>>17743122
Don't use my wife to shitpost

>> No.17743403

>>17743303
>restaurant gets popular with a simple burger, just buns, meat, and cheddar
>later the restaurant releases a deluxe burger with lettuce, tomato, and onions
>then they come out with a blue cheese burger that has mushrooms on it
>then they release a bbq burger with friend onions and melted provolone
>wtf why is no one buying the classic burger when all these better options exist?

>> No.17744106

>>17743403
I'm gonna fail my cut because of you nigger

>> No.17744161

>>17743403
That argument and analogy are retarded, Aki was struggling to get traction ever since she stopped doing ASMR, way before Nene or even Pekora debuted. Hell, in fact it's the opposite, it wasn't until hololive went viral globally in 2020 and that clip from her 2nd anniversary zatsudan was posted on reddit that she was finally able to get a stable footing thanks to all the EOP saviorfags flocking to her.

A better analogy would be the basic burger being ignored for years until the restaurant suddenly became popular and people coming for the fancy BBQ burger also started ordering the basic burger

>> No.17744222

Aki best holo who is obviously married and happy IRL

She's like a more IRL successful choco

>> No.17747230

ugly irl

>> No.17747274

>>17734436
Doesn't steam

>> No.17747443

>>17744222
Not married

>> No.17755934

>>17734436
Who’s Aki?

>> No.17756168

>>17747274
She should keep her water topped off then.

>> No.17756518

For starters her avatar is pretty lame; Choco and Mel have the same problem.
Like their avatars are supposed to be a futuristic elf, a succubus and a vampire but they just look like the most drab JRPG sluts.

>> No.17756988

>>17743122
>Pekora, Aqua, or Nene

One of these things is not like the others

>> No.17757290

Coco tried to save her and she was actually enjoying traffic for a bit, then taiwan yab happened and she regressed when coco left

>> No.17758119

Probably suffers from less clipping compared to other Holos as well. ARK doesn't appeal to me at all, but I enjoy her cooking and singing streams. She's sweet and has a calming voice.

>> No.17758786

>>17734436
>Another "aki is a failure" thread
If you don't watch her how do you know she's doing poorly? have you even taken the time to check her superchat income?

>> No.17758832

Why is this thread still up? why is it full of idiots who don't even watch Aki, her numbers lately are insane compared to even her Coco day numbers, Aki has been pulling a consistent 9000+ CCV lately, ON WHAT PLANET IS SHE NOT SUCCESSFUL?

>> No.17758944

>>17742233
>goes from <600 viewers to 1.5k
>not saved

>> No.17759750

I just like she has a dedicated translator

>> No.17759881

>>17738581
Hey, there's another one of the ten! That song is way too good to just have 100k views.

>> No.17761380

>>17738193
You forget Reddit raid Aki channel and Akipella happened

>> No.17761503

>>17741484
In Aki case, she really saved her.
Aki almost decides to quit but ARK saves her

T. Roseitai

>> No.17761699

>>17758944
Holo numbers brainrot.

>> No.17765309

>>17758786
thats the thing, she have a small but consistent and good fanbase, so she have a high engagement to say it in some way

>> No.17765546

>>17734436
She's literally more successful than 97% of Niji.

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>>17734436
Aki was my first sub and only membership to a vtuber. She has a good amount of support from both her JP and overseas communities. I don't think she needs to be saved but more people tuning in and seeing her would be great.

>> No.17769545 [DELETED] 

>>17734436
You know why

>> No.17769592

>>17734436
I think I've seen this before

>> No.17769622

>>17734436
who?

>> No.17769672

>>17765546
Yeah, she has better numbers than 8. Good for her.

>> No.17769742

>>17734436
Her design is a big debuff for me, those twintails look absolutely atrocious.

>> No.17770035

>>17734436
If only she was involved in 2020 Minecraft arc, she would have done much better than now.

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17770247

I love my wife

>> No.17772871

>why
JP bros aren't cucks

>> No.17774054

>>17734436
> Is it just that early hologen debuff?
Suisei, Miko, Fubuki, Matsuri, Haachama, Ayame and Subaru all have over a million subs, Sora and Shion aren’t that far off. What debuff?

>> No.17777379 [DELETED] 

>>17734436
Bad avatar.

>> No.17777968

>>17734436
She is everything you described her as, but the problem with her is that she doesn't stand out in any of it. She just doesn't have a niche to fill, nothing that lifts her above the others

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>>17734436

>> No.17780786

>>17765869
based

>> No.17780945

>>17772871
nothing to do with that since they clearly are, almost all of them think that you shouldn't get divorced after being cheated on.
not even a modern thing, the class system hundreds of years ago made it so the women were always fucking other men and it was considered okay because husbands were falling in love and paying for sex with entertainers even back then.

>> No.17781092

>>17737917
Aki, Noel, Haato, Choco, Mel all had their channels demonitized in quick succession. People think it's because of ASMR content because it's one of the things they share before. Some of them had to create 2nd channels to stream before while it was being resolved. Afterwards most either ceased doing ASMR or hid them as member only /unarchived streams.

>> No.17781157

>>17743403
>food analogies

>> No.17781158

>>17743403
>food analogy

>> No.17781640

>>17740086
>getting hit by car de-

Gonna stop you right there, Kanata was the one who got hit by a car and was hospitalized for a time.

Aki's issue was a degenerative hip that she ignored for years until it got to the point that it would have severely impacted her ability to dance.

>> No.17782195

holofags don't understand japanese so why would "funny" and "entertaining" matter?

>> No.17784043

Don't talk to me about unsuccessful until your oshi is told to graduate because of bad numbers.

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