/#/ - Numbers thread

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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

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>>17534903
Mah names Henreh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-boMzfQaPU

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>>17534908
>>https://playboard.co/en/
I had no idea the top superchatted people of all time are all hololive vtubers.

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>>17534857
Their goal is influence and power, which they have because they have a monopoly. Unless you actually believe there's a search engine that rivals them

>>17535026
It's ultimately up to the government to break them up and regulate them, the problem is the conservatives are in charge and they're all pro confrontation and the only group willing to break up corporations in America have long been branded as communist so there's no chance they'll be voted in. Also doesn't help that America has a pay to win system in politics since the conservatives ruled that money equals free speech and corporations have the same rights as a person. It's created an utter shitshow where corporations can just operate above the law and do as they please.

Just be prepared for more fuckery by Susan and noting to stop her.

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>>17534779
>Baseline for ad rev is around $30k for 3 mil views monthly.

Too high anonchama, only finance-related account go that high 10k-14k per mil.

2-4k USD per mil would be my best guess for every chuuba

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>>17534908
This should be added in the general section, as it's the only site(that I know of) that counts VODs.
https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily

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>>17535266
https://youtu.be/0DtTwGFwcQs?t=483

Video as reference for someone under gaming category

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>>17535282
My only objection is to the fact it compares the VOD not at the end of the stream or at the 24 hours mark but on some arbitrary time, making it impossible to compare head to head.

Pretty much whoever streams closer to the start of the new period wins

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>>17535282
many sites count vods, but maybe that's the only one which rank vod views daily

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>>17535282
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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Saw that HoloEN is getting 3d with holoFes wonder how many english fans will get a fes ticket now

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>>17535266
fuck off with your gypsy guesses

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>>17535266
Before SC was a thing, people got filthy rich just from Ad Revenue, and still are, more ethical than SC too imho

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>>17535223
And despite that Susan still won't give them the time of day

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>>17535324
yeah if we're going to do this it needs to at least lag a day behind and even then youll have vods with like 35 hours vs vods with 12

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You know... I realized that Aki has been streaming for almost 5 hours now and is still sitting well above 5k. At 6k+ she is basically more than +100% of her regular audience. I wonder if she can convert all of these dino autists into loyal fans after Ark Arc kinda dies out (until Ark 2 releases). Might be hard judging from ERROR's numbers though.

I wonder if she can do a singing stream at this point in time.

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>>17535405
Superchat has existed ever since there were vtubers that do livestreams

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>>17535324
>>17535410
Well unltil one of you guys make an acceptable substitute that's the only one we got

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>>17535313
To be clear, part of the reason why his is so high is because poorfags from SEA aren't going to be watching his shit, so his views are likely coming from entirely US + Canada, given his subject matter. CPM for US+CAN is HIGH, like $10+ bucks per cpm (1k as views) for normal ads.

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>aqua is playing apex with jun

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>>17535324
Not arbitrary, but JST midnight. So morning stream seemingly has an edge, but not really since night time Japan has more after work viewers, so it kinda balanced out.

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>>17535380
Not many fans received the message yet

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>>17535453
counting live stream vods gives numbers more bullshit than ccvid

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>>17535515
Only if it's not done at least 24 hours after the fact.

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>>17535324
Wouldn't EN also benefit in this ranking from the fact that they stream in morning JST and they have until midnight JST to add more views in their VODs from VOD watchers, or are those views completely negligible?

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>>17535417
she should try to change games a little bit while the ARK arc remains

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>>17535515
take your meds, VODs are much more reliable as it doesn't change as much post-processing, while ccvid post-processing can change as much as 50-80% (e.g. Selen Twitter post, and Towa 3D 24k to 80k peak)

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>Corporate dystopia in which silicon valley retards kneecap your vtubers ccv and any up and comers to protect a nobility of TV shills and twitch streamers

If you told me this would be the reality while watching Kizuna and Akari back in 2016, I would call you a fucking schizo.

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>>17536042
>as it doesn't change as much post-processing
kek, to this day Sana debut didn't match the 1M VOD views it got in the first first days of processing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tv5GyebhQo

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Seeing how the thread is civilized rn, it seems the spics and seanigs are done for the day huh

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>>17536417
>spics
i'm still here. Don't make me angry or i'll start shitposting

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>>17536331
Whean is that song even dropping? I wanna see what kinds of numbers Calli can do with a Gura buff...

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>>17536331
should have dennounced and fired all the lolis

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>>17536417
>spics
Anon?

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>>17536525
Thursday NA Time, after the Super Drink Bros collab on Gura's channel.

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>>17536525
feb 3rd. Gura already posted the collab

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>>17536521
S-sowwy schizo-kun~

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>>17536558
>wojcicki
The fuck kind of weird ass name is that? Shit sounds like something a Yeti would make

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>>17536042
>post-processing
yeah that why using a counting method of vods that includes live streams is retarded

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>>17535380
I hope a lot. Cover needs all the money it can get, they're starving and barely making ends meet. Cover isn't doing great financially and aren't getting collabs or sponsorships. Even re:act has a better forecast.

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trying way too hard, i know you'll still get (you)s in this shithole though

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>>17537003
so is using CCVs that have repeatedly been proven to be fucked with, but we still hand out golds based off them

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>>17537128
Yes, because those gold are imaginary as well. Who the fuck cares, and how new?

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Top 22 Most Viewed Vtuber Channels January 2022 + List Movement

1.hololive ホロライブ - VTuber Group [Up 2]
2.にじさんじ (Nijisanji) [Up 2]
3.Marine Ch. 宝鐘マリン [Up 5]
4.Pekora Ch. 兎田ぺこら [Up 1]
5.フブキCh。白上フブキ (Fubuki) [Down 5]
6.Suisei Channel [Up 1]
7.Gawr Gura Ch. hololive-EN [Up 7]
8.Mori Calliope [N/A]
9.Miko Ch. さくらみこ [Up 16]
10.Towa Ch. 常闇トワ [Up 35]
11.Kuzuha Channel [Down 5]
12.竜胆 尊 / Rindou Mikoto
13.Laplus ch. ラプラス・ダークネス - holoX - [Down 11]
14.Koyori ch. 博衣こより - holoX - [Down 6]
15.Subaru Ch. 大空スバル [Down 2]
16.Watame Ch. 角巻わため [Up 26]
17.Shibuya Hal [Up 1]
18.Lamy Ch. 雪花ラミィ [Up 6]
19.HØRI 07 (MyholoTV Thai tuber) [Up 123]
20.ホロライブ切り抜きCH・ゆにーん (Matsuri) [Down 7]
21.Kanata Ch. 天音かなた [Down 7]
22.Okayu Ch. 猫又おかゆ [Up 2]

Not the most useful because you have song views warping it and bleedover from a successful month like in FBK's case but still interesting. Holo domination remains.

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>>17536586
No, he's right.
Seamonkies, and the assorted ES speakinnggroups are the WORST when it comes to shitposting, dramabaiting and general thread derailment.

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>>17537256
Marine mogging song heavy channels like suisei and Mori with shorts. How is that possible?

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Sometimes I remember why I'm glad this thread exists, because someone earlier today asked what CCV Pekora and Rushia's 3D debuts got, and after spending the last hour or so trying to find out, I still have no idea whatsoever. It's crazy how much of crucial vtuber history exists only on websites that aren't up anymore or ancient chink numberfagging YT channels with 80 views, while in 2025 someone will be able to search the archives to find any stream from 3 years ago's CCV instantly.

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fuck /#/, fuck numberfag. Someone create musicfag, I'll convert you right here, right now

https://files.catbox.moe/o51v4s.m4a

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>>17537354
Each of her clips got a million or nearly a million each. Illegal view farming.

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>>17537212
you're in /#/ fag, EVERYONE CARES HERE

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>>17537256
>domination
I counted only 17 holo channels.

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>>17537266
spics are still up. They share American hours for the most part

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>>17537354
Easier to get people to commit to clicking 20-30 seconds of some coombait than a 3-5 minute song.

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>>17537412
What the heck is this supposed to be? I'm not downloading shit without an idea wtf this is.

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>>17537256
>song views
What's wrong with that? It still a views.

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>>17537412
There is a vsinger topic on the board, retardchama.

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>>17537051
A-anon? Are you in the right timeline?

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>>17537475
it's a soundpost anonchama, literally mp4

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>>17537488
Nothing wrong with, I also agree songs are part of vutbing careers but it also distorts who is the most popular streamer and if someone had a viral song in a month they knock off someone more consistent.

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>>17537450
>Only 17
what in the numberrot

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>>17537518
It's only like 70%. Healthy but dominance starts at 80%/

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>>17537558
for >>17537554

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>>17537266
The retard that goes between this board and /jp/ shitting on Suisei and Watame is from Brazil.

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>>17537515
that shit is dead

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>>17537457
Most of them aren't active till NA peak hours though, due to work/school. These hours are closer to peak EU hours rn. Most. (I guess Spain falls in there too though)

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>>17537256
>HØRI 07 (MyholoTV Thai tuber) [Up 123]
Ahem.

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>>17537552
Well if you want to see who is the most popular streamer you should look at the watch hours not total views.

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GURA FUCKING WON BY A LOT

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>>17537542
Phoneposting ATM, didn't show up properly for some reason.
>>17537597
Many of our resident shitposters and schizos that are active on primetime Burger hours likely are, especially that retarded cat poster.

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>>17537597
how do you know?

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>>17537702
it's Gura's Haiiro to Ao cover, godly since she's harmonizing to herself

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>>17537558
Different standards then. That’s easily a dominant performance. You wouldn’t see football fans saying “yeah we didn’t get dominated” after a 17-5 loss to their biggest rivals

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>>17537781
They leaked it in one of their youtube screenshots showing the timezone and similar posts on a board w/ flags.

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>>17537618
There's only handfull of fags here that actually listen to chuuba's music and have legit discussion about it anon purisu andastand. The rest are just listen and liking whatever their oshi put out there.
>now back to number

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>>17537618
Be the change you want to see.

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>>17537640
I checked her channel and it is a legit vtuber so I included her but looking deeper the 9 million monthly number doesn't really match at most she had a solid 2-3 million month and I don't see any other videos that randomly popped off so kind of weird.

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>>17537781
he posted on bantz trying to falseflag but forgot that bantz has ids

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>>17537618
well what are you waiting for, go revive it

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>>17538222
and this is the same suischizo from /hlg/? Interesting

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>33,951: Aqua (Hololive)
>33,201: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,929: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,593: Rushia (Hololive)
>21,477: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>20,252: Korone (Hololive)
>16,082: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,124: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>14,645: Nene (Hololive)
>14,378: Gura (Hololive)
>14,297: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,492: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,443: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,303: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,593: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,341: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,324: Aki (Hololive)
>11,040: Botan (Hololive)
>10,720: Calli (Hololive)
>10,426: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,181: Mito (Nijisanji)

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>>17536884
>t. amerimutt who discovered outside world

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>>17538367

jesas

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>>17538404
oh no no no Silverboi...

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>>17537558
It's 90% for top 10 retard

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>>17538404
Based Onion taking gold for home once again.

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>>17538367
>>17538419
Luca already got 9.8k a few hours ago

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>>17538492
>using 10 as the cutoff point
Naughty naughty.

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>>17538564
Even if you exclude the main channels its 80 percent holo for the top 10 individual people.

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>>17538547
Sheeesh
>Luca
I didn't expect him to make a lot of money because he doesn't pander to girls all the time. Brotubers have a chance

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>>17538547
Chinks too strong,
Chole we need you.

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>>17538404
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>17538404
>Manjisanji top stars comeback
>Only Vox is the survivor of Luxiem
Guess pandering to SEA has it's perks
At least they still have the akasupas...for now

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>>17538654
Sorry Gura, 14.5k is for grown ups

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>>17538654

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>>17538654
>>17538683
Stop coping retard, Gura's ccv counter is basically a meaningless ouji number

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>>17538404
Hololive 14
Nijisanji 7

Only a gold and bronze for Hololive and a silver for Nijisanji. 6 - 4 split for the top ten which is uncharacteristic since it's usually 7 - 3. It's interesting to note that HoloX is a bunch of ranking fodder but good on SCs so I think it isn't a stretch to say they were a good investment but it is a real shame that it is the 2nd gen in a row where they have no stars.

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holy shit they have the vods image ready KEK desperation

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>>17538654
The Shark fears the Wife.

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>>17538765
Gura have several times more subscribers and therefore tourists on the stream, idiot.

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>>17538740
>>17538765
sneed

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>>17538765
>Stop coping
he isn't coping he is baiting you idiot. and you bit it.

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>>17538823
>Tourists

nah you're just falseflagging, average view time is going to be mostly the same among streamers, views are of equal value and as the month tally showed she is better then all but the creme de la creme of JP.

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>>17538806
I have never seen a good post with the word Kek in it

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>>17538823
Take a nap, retard. Your posts are boring.

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Is it feasible for nijisanji to go full time streaming? Their earnings are pretty anemic when compared to hololive.

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My oshi is getting recognized more and more. These male idols would have no problem talking about other girls if it's anime, the same goes for Suisei's male fans since he's too big to date Suisei. Next on Suisei's list is gonna be a collab with one of the four greats, Aimer, Lisa, Ikura and Ado.

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>>17538984
All of edengumi are full time streaming.

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>>17539118
L-lain...

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>>17538984
Of course. As long as there are bored people in the world, there would be eyes to to gain. The real question that you should ask is whether or not the talent has the ability to be full-time entertainers.

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>>17539078
I will fucking kneel to YAGOO if she can get a song with Aimer
Bonus point if they can drag Sawano in

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>>17539078
With the guy who won M-1 being a huge vtuberfag they will probably start getting more Japanese TV offers and seen as ok to talk about on tv.

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>>17538984
I guess so. Streaming is still a volatile job. They're not at that point where passive income flows into HoloEN. Pekora earnt $670k from merch alone on her birthday, on top of $46k SCs. Gura earnt $51k from her birthday. She probably earnt more than $300k at the least along with sold out nendos that cost $50.

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>>17538797
I don’t know what your criteria for a star is but Laplus has easily shown that she can easily get 10k by doing whatever she wants and even greater than that when she does her buff content which you can only say for only a few holos. Also, give them time they’re literally in their second month of streaming. Pekora and Subaru didn’t become a top holo overnight

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Go Pomu

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>>17538404
Aqua reached today's stream goal

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>>17539412
She better get through the game ASAP, mid-sections are kinda debuff numbers wise from what I remember of the game.

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>>17539412
Rules of nature buff

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>>17539078
GO SUISEI

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>>17538564
cope nijinigger

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>>17539332
>stars
FBK
Aqua
Korone
Haachama(at one point)
Marine
Pekora
Coco(early on)
Gura

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>>17539412
4K and rising

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>>17537558
>dominance starts at 80%
who said that?
dominance start at 51% learn math

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>>17539412
These numbers are just sad now that Luxiem exists.

Mysta got made fun of for these numbers with this game

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>>17539523
Add Subaru

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>>17539582
Do we have a track record of Luxiem's average when playing games for themselves/men and female pandering streams?

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are ENiggers now more annoying than nijishits?

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>>17539632
I doubt and that would be silly. There is no track record of (let's say) Okayu playing games or having her zatsus either, or Choco ASMR vs. Gaming.

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>>17539454
oh fuck off with that spoiler
i was specifically avoiding her stream and her general cause i need to catch up on previous stream and a nigger announces it in th enumebrs thread ffs...
well at least it isn't masters yet so i know to avoid vt altogether fr the comming days

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>>17539691
>you are here
>not watching

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>>17539691
It's the fucking numbers thread mate, the whole point is to talk about nuimbers and whatever caused them or may cause them in the future

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>>17539454
She looks so smug.
I love her.

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>Pomu breaking into 4k thanks to MGR buff

You love to see it

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https://youtu.be/YpzpaMm7v4M

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>>17539633
So do you just cruise around the board trying to pit imaginary factions against each other for your own entertainment or what?

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>>17539633
yes, they are coping because Pomu is about to pass yesterday's bae BIG ANNOUNCEMENT stream

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>>17537256
marine doing the bare minimum and yet still mogging the rest

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>>17539078
Can Hololive's star align exodia first turn draw straight flush moment be stop? I swear to god they never run out of luck

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>>17539633
Always have been

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>>17539633
Only a handful of councilfags, most of which are owlfaggots. And cuckbeats. Eveeyone else is reasonably behaved.

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It's insane how much Hololive is earning right now. This event right here,
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000614.000030268.html

>17 Holos
>360 minutes
>$47/min
I'd estimate it would be full since it's easy to cover up 90 people for one session considering they've packed concerts before and it's more cheaper than an SC. So let's run the maths. For 1 Holo, $16920. For 17 Holos, $287,640 for one freaking day. Not to mention, there's probably gonna be valentine goodies at the venue.

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>>17539078
GO COMET GO!
GO KEK HIS FANBASE OF FEMCELS

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>>17539886
Why do I keep forgetting pics

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>>17539883
>>17539863

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>>17539523
You must have a strict criteria but it’s a fair list. It’s a bit odd that you’re considering holox to not to have a star after just 2 months when a lot of your list have stars who’ve worked and grinded to become the star they are today, aside from Gura who’s literally lightning in a bottle, a bonafide star from day 1.

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>>17539963
it's true though, they only come here to shitpost when they get good numbers

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>>17539523
>no sora
Fucking newfag

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Is Bae's cover doing well, compared to other Hololive covers?

How are other councils songs (Daydream, anus tart) doing, are they meeting average expectations, over or underperforming?

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>>17539860
Depends, stars would aligned for nijiEN at the least on the 8th of February since elden ring is releasing at the time. I'm expecting low numbers overall from all streams since people are busy playing the game. That, and Kuzuha might take multiple wins from the game alone.

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>>17539886
that's alot of money holy shit.
Though bear in mind that the venue and organizers probably take a pretty significant cut of it, assuming they did get external help for this

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>>17539999

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>>17539963
It's true though.

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>>17540013
It's doing 'alright', but do remember, it's FUCKING 6 AND A HALF MINUTES. Most covers are ~2:xx to 3:xx max. This is double/triple the length, straight up takes time to do reps that do it justice instead of just stat-padding.

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>>17540013
I mean, the only way to find those songs is because they have to advertise it manually, JP has all of the social media accounts shilling their covers + main channel playlist buff
fuck, even the "official hololive EN" twitter account has more holostarJP posts than EN

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>>17538984
I want to say ofc but Mito only chose to do vtubing full time last year. So, idk if it's just her or the situation just wasnt allowed her to in the previous years

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one of these days they'll invent "Fist over IP" and I won't have to suffer such retards any longer

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>>17539582
>doubling your usual ccv is just sad
baffling lack of perspective

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>>17540093
this literally does nothing and never has other than flooding the thread

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>>17539886
Okay anons, predict Holofest numbers. They have an expo along with the concert at the venue, so merch sales is gonna guarantee a killing.

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>>17540183
Lets be conservative and say ALL THE MONEY

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>>17540183
big, they are paywalling myth 3D debut there

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Eewd8TEWE
big number achieved

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>>17540080
>FUCKING 6 AND A HALF MINUTES
Oh fuck off with this bullshit. If the song is good, people would listen to it. It's freaking 6min song not an hour long. Zommers just werent into that genre, simple as.

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So do you think they will have an EN 3D song be the free part of the concert or will they go full paywall to see your oshi in 3d?

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>>17539523
No Sora, Matsuri, Choco. What a newfag

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>>17540244
>>17540080
Honestly, if bae was smart, she'd invest an animation to do an anime opening styled cover for only a minute and a half, then post the full cover later. That opening could've been used for normal streams and so on.

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>>17540278
>2/29
There's no 29th of February this year, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>Pomu getting 5k with revengeance
Jesus, think of the numbers someone big would get with it. Permissions please..

[Anonymous No.]

Don't wanna jinx it, but is it possible Holofest might get cancelled due to coof? It's 50 days away, will it be enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17539886
>there's probably gonna be valentine goodies
there will, its mentioned on the site that they will have some merch on side that can be bought without having a ticket for talking

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540330
Is there even going to be a free part? There wasn't last time

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540430
Pekor ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17539412
I said it before but im gonna said it again:
Cover,please gets the fucking game perms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540453
Governments world over have run out of political capital from the coof and are trying to slowly ease up. Unless giga nigga super variant death sauce is released in those 50 days we should be fine and Mori said they will be doing remote 3d somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540548
And what part about "This is almost entirely on Konami's part" that everyone slams back in your face do you not understand?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540330
Its going to get leaked regardless. They might as well save themselves the headache and make it free. Myth is not the only EN, and there will be new ENs after Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17535380
Does a ticket cover both days or do you have to buy separate ones for each day? I would pay $50 or whatever to watch Ina 3D but I'd skip the other day if it's not covered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540453
Fucking Kishida taking his time. Also,

>Japan didn't reach birth estimates by 50k
KISHIDA LET ME INNNNNNNNNNN I WILL MAKE 2 BABIES EACH WITH LUI, KOYORI, KORONE, MIO AND BOTAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540548
It's not up to Cover. People have been wanting Konami permissions since forever but they haven't budged

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540599
Can do one or both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17536884
Polish, like Veibae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540599
You can choose the day you want but buying both days has a small discount.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540595
yeah bro cover should just give up their main money making event just so you and your poorfag chums can see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540599
There's single day tickets and then there are two day dtickets, I think the two day tickets are slightly cheaper if you get them as a set

[Anonymous No.]

Seems like VTube生活 (@vtubelifetrends) has doing this daily VOD ranking since November 4th, at least this is when the guy goes serious about it and have a website to display the results.

Maybe we can do this daily VOD ranking for copes and laughs for numbers sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540723
It's just going to get pirated to all hell anyways and if the 3d debuts are paywalled it will be the most pirated cover product ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540611
If Cover can play no games,on one will join Holo eventually.Did Cover notice Niji is inclining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540753
Holostats had last day views since ages, why don't anyone use that since it could filter from high to low. Just count the actual number at 3am JST or something since no one is streaming at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540758
so what? Are you one of those retards who think that a pirated copy is a lost sale? The people who want to buy it will buy it regardless, and the one who can't or won't will find alternative methods. It's not a financial problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540790
Try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540758
It's going to be by far the most pirated Cover product any, but also the most paid for so who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>17535266
2.5k seems right for a million views

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540790
Stop talking about something you don't know please it's embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540375
Animation arent worth it for cover songs. Waste of money and efforts

[Anonymous No.]

>17540790
>No one’s joining Holo
Yeah man anytime now. “A lot” of people said this after Sony announced their 50 vtubers, and Holo hasn’t released a gen in a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540824
Holostats daily views is for the whole channel growth, not for the single VOD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17536042
>more reliable

[Anonymous No.]

>>17538765
Normal Gura things

[Anonymous No.]

>people already begging

it's $100 for 2 days, it's not that expensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540459
>>17539886
There is no way you are going to a one on one with your oshi without being absolutely draped in her merch. Kiara has a very positive experience with her similar events and the participants also got a personalized autograph. Wonder if any will be on site for similar things? People would honestly pay way, way more than they are charging that's not even a akasupa

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541082
I swear some of the retards here are geuninely underaged and survive entirely off the pocket money thier parents give them

[Anonymous No.]

>>17538984
Depends on who it is. Probably the top 1/2 of JP and all of EN can do it for a living. KR and ID no. Hana probably could when she was getting 1k but not now. The only way they could was if someone else is mostly paying the bills (NEET/Boyfriend).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541082
not even, 87 dollars unless they upcharge gaijin. Still I probably won't pay for it because you have to use some garbage bloatware jap video site that gives a bad viewing experience if I pay I want something smooth and with some perks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540608
Only glorious Nippon DNA allows prease andastan

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541082
>Indonesia: $4.5k per capita
>Philippines: $3.7k per capita
$100 is massive for them. $100 for you or me is a fortune.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541082
Not only that, it's over a fucking month away.
I understand if you're in some poorfag country where a day's work won't even get you $50 USD even after a college education, I get you. It sucks, but if you have a job that doesn't pay for peanuts in CAN/US/EU, then there's really no excuse if you want to support your oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541208
it's actually pretty good, they just dropped the ball for Suisei's concert

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541208

>you have to use some garbage bloatware jap video site

unless you are retarded and buy to watch it on NND, there is SPAWN that is just way better

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540723
They're going to spend money and time chasing the pirates regardless

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541082
Estimated people buying tickets for both days: 30,000 - 50,000

Estimated ticket sales: $2.61M = $4.35M

That's just an estimate, I full expect them to go beyond 50k people.

Estimated ticket

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541286
only if they are retarded like the chinks and post links right under their tweets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541272
SPWN fucked up for Suisei, but Aqua's was perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540013
It's pretty anemic for an EN song, which was to be expected being a not super popular JP song with a low production value MV. It's actually losing to the Finana song that was released the same day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541272
that's really the main thing in spwn's favour, it's not fucking NND and you don't need to jump through hoops to buy a ticket if you don't happen to live in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541222
???? A fortune
Anon....my condolences that you live in an area that has shit wages when translated to non-funnymoney currency.
$100 isn't even a full day's work for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540790
Any day now

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541478
I'm a student, gift me a ticket

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541515
Ah, a poorfag then. Well, in that case I completely understand if you pirate it, just try not to blast the fact that you're doing so everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541515
Get a part time job, work for one day, then quit. $100, boom.

[Anonymous No.]

https://imgur.com/a/SKTO6E2
not sure if this was already discussed but it’s from the same people who do the top female streamer hours watched that Pekora was in, wondering if there’s any noticeable correlation with Youtube’s account flagging or if it’s all worthless numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541565
kek, I'm already planning to share the cost with a few friends in University and watch the concert on a projector

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541478
I meant ISN'T, I make $92.5k a year, I make $44 an hour. It is a lot of money for many posters on this board though when you consider they're mostly SEA or teenagers or both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541291
Holofes 2 sold over 50k iirc, this one will blow that out of the water

[Anonymous No.]

the true tutorial boss of vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541694
Weird flex considering many Euros will make that or more but without losing 33-50% to taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541780
Ankimo ch is mini-boss then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541780
I kneel frog

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541694
Nah they are just mostly kids. Im an ID and shit is dirtcheap compare to regular concert and some local music festival i've been to

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541811
It isn't a flex and that guy started it with what he makes in a day. I will admit I am underpaid for my position and education level though.

Is it so wrong to have sympathy for the poor?

[Anonymous No.]

Why omega hates nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541904
NijiEN blocked the collab as to not jeopardize their ties with B2

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541694
>>17541478
All you fags flexing on your salaries when Luxiem mogs the shit out of you in one month

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541881
If you had sympathy for the poor, you'd give him advice of worth instead of dangling it in his face. There are much bigger fish than you, and much bigger fish than me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541684
God, I wish I had real life friends I could do that with

[Anonymous No.]

something i was curious about after i saw some people saying mordhau was a buff game last night.
what makes a game a buff/debuff game?
even ignoring the fact she didn't play online looking at its stats on twitch i'd say it isn't a buff game

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541985
No one's flexing anything, its a statement of fact that for anyone with a decent education (or even without, given the plethora of manual labor jobs that can pay well) that unless you live in a part of the world that has a weaker currency or are a student, $100 for a one-time event isn't that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542044
people said that because Botan got good numbers playing it, that's all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541669
Been commented here before. Long store short
>a hatched job

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541985
please don't remind me, I don't like getting jealous

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541368
Was fine for 2nd fest and Watame as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542087
i see but wouldn't buff/debuff games be different for jp and en. like JRPGs are pretty debuff for en but they are a buff for jp. which was why i looked at its stats on twitch since i feel that would give a better look at the interests of en fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542044
>what makes a game a buff/debuff game?
It is more about the streamer profile than about the game itself.

Ark is a buff for Aki, APEX is a debuff for her. For Aqua it would likely be the other way around

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542194
anon you're prescribing a level of scientific rigour that's far beyond the glorified horse betting parlour that is this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541985
>>17542077
It's not about beeing a poorfags. It's about petty fuckers couldnt even work out a frickin less than $100 dollar for their own entertainment/hobby when these streamers has been giving them basically a free entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>PEKOSCHIZO, DON'T LOOK!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542194
That's reasonable.
>>17542260
Come on now, a bit of legwork once in a while when the thread isn't in complete timelopping shitpost territory doesn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542044
anon, mordhau came out in april 2019. Why are you looking at 2021/22 on twitch to see if it'll be a buff for a chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542594
to see the current interest in the game for an English speaking audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542044
If it feels like it gives good numbers it's a buff game. If it makes my oshi look bad it's because it was a debuff game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541750
wait, source on that?

50k is impressive ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>17538404
Jesus can Kuzuha even get gold. If it's not Peko blocking him it's Aqua

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542339
>Inb4 "Doesn't matter"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17538404
The King is back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542942
King Gold tomorrow,no joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542980
The fuck he's doing? Some kind of event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542883
Source is that business insider interview that yagoo did, and it really isn't, people were estimating 80-100k based off various factors like viewership and twitter engagement

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542636
Because there's so much overlap between twitch normies and a vtuber? Of course it's not getting played on twitch, its almost 3 years old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542883
I remember it being brought up in an interview with Tanigo, don't have it on hand at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542994
Singing King while riding a boat en route to a deserted island while doing an APEX tournament with HIKAKIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542899
at least he gets to keep the silverboy title

[Anonymous No.]

Council seems to be stacking their streams on top of Gura's hours more recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5A9uIuN93k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0SNjfTsABA

Do they not see the shark as a threat to their numbers anymore, or are they just allergic to receiving numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543546
Counter-programming is a thing, and even if there are overlaps you'll end up with more total viewers anyways, and can't dodge the slot forever when HoloEN gen3 rolls around.

[Anonymous No.]

I didnt know it was this bad for NijiEN females

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543693
graduation soon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543546
They still don't start at the same time, though? Overlapping an hour or two has been a thing since forever for HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

VOD schizos dont look...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543693
And you fags said that it was a buffgame..

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543769
humongous onion holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17542194
Western games that EOPs recognize are a big buff for JPs. It genuinely feels like there's very very few buff games for EN other than FOTM games Hololive can never get the permissions to on time, or GTA/Minecra.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543809
i think its still missing some from processing because that length should be a lot higher even if she was in the mid 20s for most of the stream
dont think she'll get back to the 1m APEX VOD range without a 10+ hour stream tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543769
Really strong, though I do wonder if APEX just gets more tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544016
Well with where she is now, she's probably going to need a stream like that to progress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544104
Yea, she's at Diamond II, she's probably going to either need a super long endurance stream or some off-stream grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544130
she definitely needs longer streams to make it this season but those marathon streams from a year ago also include a ton of 30+ minute games where she was ratting the entirety of them to still lose points

[Anonymous No.]

I think pomu got her numbers because of pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17540153
That's not 2x Mysta's usual CCV, though, more like somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3. His usual CCV at that time slot (JP / Asia hour) is around 8-10k+ as far as I can recall

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544200
Which numbers? She peaked at 5.2k and is already reclining midway the gameplay

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544430
peak number was during RULES OF NATUREEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544430
Yep. Even on easy difficulty, she'll want to try and get this done in 3 streams if possible to minimize the debuff parts of the game. Bosses are buff, and the ending of course is the biggest payoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544619
It's a four hour game, how the fuck does she need three streams for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544634
Wait, I don't remember it being that short....
It's a 7-8 hour game I'm pretty sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17541669
>17%
>SEVENTEEN PERCENT

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544772
That is
>Hololive
>Nijsanji
>Assorted JPs like Jun
Yea, JP punches way above its weight, but that's because the good majority of their livestreaming is now on YT, not Twitch and NND (not that there aren't decent amounts on Twitch, just nowhere near the amount of JP peeps on YT).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544054
I don't know anon, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543546
they know that Gura has been leaving the best time slot open at random times and they are taking chances to capitalize

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544430
I'm talking about the whole numbers because mgs pekora is the most popular playthrough for vtuber imo so people are exciting to see any playthrough for this game after pekora kino one

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543769
Who are the VOD schizos? Because I don't think anyone can deny a 6 and a half hour stream with 30k CCV isn't gonna give you one hell of a big VOD.

[Anonymous No.]

based on this formula, they got Pegor's numbers wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543769
The combination of Aqua and Apex is stronger than Pekora and Minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545048
Yes, we know they did, and Holo_stats called them out on it, but that's just one small fan hobbyist, not like streamhatchet is going to balk unless say, Pekora calls them out on their bogus numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17543769
what are you trying to prove? if it's Gura related you are retarded
>Aqua
>amost 7 hours
>almost 600k views
>Gura
>half the time
>"less than half" the CCV
>above 300k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544016
>think its still missing some from processing
You can be sure about it. I've seen anons say up to 24 hours, but based on the completely isolated Gura GTA stream that got DMCAed, I'd say it's more like 8-10, and this one isn't anywhere near it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545071
Nah, Pekora MC has a higher ceiling, much higher ceiling due to the potential of collaborative incidents, though perhaps not now since the server is kind of slow in activity. The floor for this Aqua apex challenge is higher than Pekora MC though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545048
I believe a nip guy running the Holo_Data twitter (and some others too) is saying that they miscalculated Pekora's total stream hours for some reasons. They didn't reply to his tweet on Twitter, though, so that'll probably be the end of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545103
There's a difference though, the formula is technically "not public" and people were using that to say that it was another factor like streaming under a specific category

[Anonymous No.]

Since Cover is about to become a MCN officially, how would they have ranked here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544619
Pomu doesn't really care about debuffs, she played Akibas Trip for however many streams and also that godawful VR VN that tanked her down to like 600 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544940
That was a long time ago. Most VTuber fans nowadays are newfags and probably don't even know that exists.

[Anonymous No.]

and talking about holodata

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545187
>MCN officially
Do they really want to go through with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545309
why did migo just disappear for a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545200
Oh no...Pomu....
I just checked, the game is anywhere from ~5 hours (speeding through text, voice lines, etc), to ~11 hours if you're taking it slow. She's probably going to take 8+ hours to beat the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544772
So is this 17% includes foreign branches from both Holo and Niji? Since their channel's location are set in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545351
Well, yes, why wouldn't they? They even made an official announcement and everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545187
people like to point out the peaks and tops but they are missing in the accumulated numbers, Hololive and Nijisanji SHIT on a lot of other orgs, their networks are fucking insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544940
>so people are exciting to see any playthrough for this game
The numbers don't seem to show that. The only argument that could be made here would be
>5k is a giant number for Pomu
which is undeniable, but it is more of a demerit for Pomu (now that Luxiem exists) than any praise for either her or the strength of the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545367
She was moving.
>>17545351
They're pretty much ALREADY OPERATE as an MCN. All this does is formalize it and makes things much easier to manage behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545048
Other than the rounding on minutes instead of seconds their formula is correct.
They either have the wrong averages or, more likely, missed streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545309
F-Friend...
(And Kuzuha is going back up after a long recline period, King still has fire in him after all)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17544892
they are 2 weeks late

[Anonymous No.]

>pomu going from 5k to 3.6k
so this game is just a buff at the beggining and the end?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545187
According to Holo_stats's watched hours chart....
As an MCN, Hololive would have been THIRD in 2021 with a grand total of ~270M Team Hours watched.
Oh gods, that's actually huge, WTF?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545187
Above Tribo Gaules close to Team SoloMid

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545650
and also the boss fights, really the entire game should just be a boss rush because I bet you not a single person can actually remember what happens between the bossfights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17537256
>19. MyHoloTV
>Higher than just about all of Nijisanji and a lot of Hololive
WHAT IN THE FUCK!! Is that the same MyHolo that had all of their gen 2 graduate? When the fuck did they incline so hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545779
Something about orphans and illegal experiments and modifications to said kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545819
There's some fuckery with it, see >>17537947

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545819
that tranny Hori was already popular as an indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545779
All i remember is raiden wearing a sombero and getting fucked by a mechanical gorilla

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545819
They didn't. No fucking idea why she's on that list, you can probably click a random mid tier holo who'd mog her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545187
>>17545704
>According to Holo_stats's watched hours chart....
>As an MCN, Hololive would have been THIRD in 2021 with a grand total of ~270M Team Hours watched.

I have the same numbers:

>273,586,048 :: Hololive + Holostars
>269,622,383 :: Hololive alone

That's discounting premieres and the main channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546136
Including the main channel that would bring it to
> 271,084,453

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546136
That's actually frightening. I hadn't realized that Hololive as a whole had gotten so big that they could rival TSM as an org in watched hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546250
what the hell is TSM?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17545461
Luxiem and female NijiENs have basically zero overlap in viewership so dont really know what they have to do with Pomu's numbers, but that is besides the point. Games can be a buffgame even if the chuuba playing it isnt the biggest. Like if Reimu tomorrow played a game that got her 18k would you not see that as a buffgame just because Pekora gets bigger numbers? Understand what buffgames are retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546268
Team SoloMid, one of the biggest eSports orgs.

[Anonymous No.]

ibai 400k

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546339
Ah, I see. Sorry I kinda got into this whole streaming thing with hololive and I don't really know what goes on outside of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>[Original song] FACT / Towa Towa [Full MV]
>1.23 million views · 4 weeks ago

>[MV] Kuzuha / Contrail
>1.24 million views · 4 months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546371
Fair. Suffice to say they're ancient by internet standards, starting as one of the oldest teams in LoL and then spreading out into assorted other competitive games.
The fact that Hololive has grown to the point where it's nearly caught up to TSM is mind boggling to me and pita into perspective how BIG they've gotten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17546422
Behold the power of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

JANUARY VIEW/TIME RANKINGS

See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks..
>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation in the categories this month, but I would say that they are, as a whole group, stable, either growing or falling depending on how many events they manged to pull this month in comparison to december.

>The group with best results was Vshojo, thanks to their collabs with ecelebs. Other ENs seem stable, but still with a lot of events going on - if they can`t mantan it next month, they`ll drop. NijiEN males lost some debut buff, but that includes their debut stream - not counting those, their fall would be of -8%.
>JPs are overall stable as well, but the lack of events to some categories, and streamers getting covid or other sickness may have influenced their numbers a bit.

>reminder that there has been some new youtube fuckery with the ccv numbers after this Chritmas (and even after the supposed ”fix” of jan 10th - the problem persists as stated by teamyoutube themselves), however, taking a look at the vod views, the vod views still seem stable and not too messep up.
>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.
>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>

>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain for you, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.
>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.
>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.
>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.

>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.
>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.

>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or private were not included for the calculations.
>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 01-01-22 to 01-02-22 (~2am jst).

>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).
>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.
>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.

>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets.
>I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.
>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.
>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either.
>If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard.

>I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic.
>i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored.

>ill reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic

the thumbnail might be glitching a bit. Hopefully the file itself doesnt.

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>>17546498
didnt read kek

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>>17546371
Cloud 9 and TSM are the top 2 most valuable e-sports org, valued at 310 and 250 million USD each. TSM also got a 250 million deal with FTX just to put their name in TSM for 10 years.

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>>17546498
me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess.

As things of interest:
- chloe had her best position ever not counting her debut month
- shigure had her best position ever
- towa had her best position ever tied with another month
- veibae had her best position ever
- nyanners had her best position ever
- ironmouse had her best position ever

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>>17546305
>Like if Reimu tomorrow played a game that got her 18k would you not see that as a buffgame
There is a difference in scale between Pomu reaching 5k up from a 2k median and Reimu reaching 18k on anything in any context.

And it is exactly because of that difference scale that Pomu result is not remarkable, either to prove 5k is a good number (it isn't when her branch mates are getting that on zatsus) or to prove the game is a game that have people excited "to see any playthrough for this game".

I agree that it is a good number for Pomu tho, and also agree that there are people wanting to see that game played but the hype is not even as big as Aki Rose and ARK (to give a silly example)

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>>17546551
Okay, now what the hell is FTX?

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>>17546551
Ops, it's a 210 million deal.

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>>17546565
>>17546498
Vshojo sure had a good month, huh?

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>>17546584
FTX is a cryptocurrency exchange worth 32 billion.

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>>17546703
wait, what the fuck, now we are moving into /biz/ territory? I thought we were talking about streamers

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>>17546637
veibae sucking sodapoppin's cock seems to be paying off. Shes gonna try moving to Us soon lol

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>>17546572
Just a reminder for Nijis that Sana got 8k last week. It isn't suddenly a good number just because Sana usually get 2k.

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Didn't see it mentioned in the previous threads but Chima's Phony and Okayu's Umiyuri Kaiteitan passed 10 million views today.

Starting with Phony because it was faster. Didn't catch it live though, so closest numbers are 179 days and 17 hours till 10 million.

Would make it the 2nd fastest Niji song after Kuzuha's King at 53 days. 10th fastest among Niji-Holo songs.
Phony is the 7th Nijisanji song to do so, beating classics like Q and Virtual to Live to the milestone.

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>>17546826
yea but pomu isn't a nigger though

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>>17546572
For female NijiENs 5k on a solo game stream is very very rare. Outside of Selen it has only happened a few times. And a game having 2,5 times a chuubas median CCV is very big of a buffgame, bigger than most buffgames

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>>17540244
The song was fantastic and everybody who listened to it has done nothing but talk about how amazing it was and how good Bae is. The issue is that while Hololive fans give huge views to music it seems as if they have picked a few favorites and then don't really bother listening to anything else. The obvious standouts are Suisei, Mori, and Gura and then on the next tier down you have members like Okayu and Shion who also get good views.

On the inverse you have some truly unique and well done songs that barely get any viewership in comparison.

>Miko
Miko released this song 5 months ago after her 3D live. Its much different from what we usually hear coming out of Hololive and most everybody who listened to it said it was awesome. Yet it only has 600k views after 5 months.
https://youtu.be/8ZVrn4lHLqw

>Watame
One of the obvious ones. She has huge music output but barely any views in comparison. One of my favorites is Rainbow which has a very unique music video with sheep running in the background. Its a fun upbeat song with an adorable music video. Yet only 400k views after 4 months.
https://youtu.be/RMZNjFkJK7E

What makes the Watame situation even more unfortunate is that her highest viewed music video is the one that features Mori who was mentioned in the top tier. Either way Its not like these are unpopular Holos either. Miko is one of the most popular Holos in the entire company, hell, she is one of the biggest vtubers in the entire world altogether.

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>>17546826
The point isnt even Pomu, the point is that it is a big buffgame

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>>17545187
Jesus look at my dud XQC carrying an entire streaming network

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>>17546856
Nobody cares. Suisei's is better and will pass it eventually.

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>>17546886
You wouldn't be making the same "relative" point if the chuuba was one of the VERSEn girls and the "high number" 250 CCV, even with all the ratios being the same

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>>17545163
I would say Pekora MC already losing its charm over time. Especially with Shiraken around and her most important UsaKen member Moona deported to ID server

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>>17546136
>>17546250
>>17546471
>>17546551
When does Cover's 2021 financials drop because I'm legit interested on how much they've grown. Multiple tie-in merchs and endorsements both locally and overseas, plus the fact that they're willing to dip their toes into multimedia stuff like games and music, especially knowing how risk adverse they've been for awhile, makes me wonder how much of a warchest they''ve accumulated last year.

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>>17546422
its over for kezhuha...

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>>17546950
>feelings in the numbers thread

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>>17547003
It should be at the end of the fiscal year, so this April

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bunch of niji tourists watching her stream. You know the kind - those who never leave a like.
>pomu vtuber sim - 43mins long - 3.9k ccv - 9k likes
>pomu metal gear - 3hrs long so far - 5k ccv - 5k likes

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>>17546422
Contrail is such a fucking meme man, lmao. How in the fuck do 30 million tourists watch his shitty KING cover and then just REFUSE to check out his first original song. First original song is usually a huge buff and nobody gave a shit. Its really weird.

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>>17547003
>the fact that they're willing to dip their toes into multimedia stuff like games and music
You surely realize Cover was a VR game company first that accidentally pivoted to entertainment when they expanded the hand tracking demo for their "Virtual PingPong" to animate a full avatar; and then hired Sora as the mascot and subsequently made the Roboco model and hired someone to give it life.

I don't think "Cover investing in gaming technology" is too far away from their DNA as a company

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>Gura is streaming almost every day, puts up the stream 5 hours ahead of time, posts schedules on time
Does CCVid have her worried or something?

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>>17547096
Hopefully, some anons can leak it here like they did last year. Nijisanji I believe is a year late, correct?

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>>17546950
Anya's is the superior version

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>>17546856
Umiyuri Kaiteitan is Okayu's 1st at 10 million, flos set to pass it too in 1-2 weeks.

Okayu is the 9th Hololive member to have a solo song reach 10 milion.

Full list by time to 10 mil:
1 Fastest to 10m views:
2 King - GuraxMori - 58 Days (9h 46m)
3 Reflect - Gura - 90 Days (3h 30m)
4 R.I.P - Mori - 99 Days (19h 4m)
5 Ochame Kinou - Hololive - 116 Days (2h 10m)
6 Goodbye Sengen - Ayame - 116 Days (21h 11m)
7 Can You Do the Hololive - Hololive - 127 Days (3h)
8 GETCHA! - SuiseixMori - 149 Days (1h 30m)
9 GHOST - Suisei - 217 Days (22h 52m)
10 Red - Mori - 263 Days (10h 7m)
11 Dead Beats - Mori - 332 Days (7h 8m)
12 Ahoy! - Marine - 339 Days (20h 27m)
13 Saga Jihen - SuiseixHoloFantasy - 335 Days (22h 5m)
14 Discommunication Alien - Pekora - 378 Days (1h 12m)
15 Live Again - Mori - 481 Days (19h 29m)
16 NEXT COLOR PLANET - Suisei - 517 Days (22h 23m)
17 Dadadada Tenshi - Aqua - 599 Days (19h 14m)
18 Umiyuri Kaiteitan - Okayu - 707 Days (13h 20m)
19 Sparkle - Mio - 928 Days (19h 18m)
20 Tenkyuu - Suisei - 983 Days (6h 57m)

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>>17547182
She felt bad about earlier in January when she took an extra longer break and came back tired and out of it.

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>>17547179
The didn't make the Roboco model, they bought it off of someone (it was a premade asset). That person happens to be a big Roboco gachi to this day.

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>>17547386
Yeah, "made" was not the correct word there because afaik Cover didn't "make" any of the models, they hired people to do it.

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>>17546950
As a holochad and a fan of Suisei myself I must say I disagree with you there, Chima's Phony is easily one of the best cover I've ever heard.

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>>17547553
nice false flag

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>>17547179
Yeah, but the fact that they're going for something risky like HoloAlt instead of an easy cashgrab like a gacha game (which I would've preferred) AND possibly extending their reach in terms of music production at the same time has to mean that they have enough money to support both. Ergo, Cover must be fucking rich right now.

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>>17547573
It's a risky gamble that could pay handsomely.
They're trying to use the game as a platform for the talents to do content (shows, concerts and whatnot).
Personally I think they're biting much more than they can chew there.
Music wise, it's pretty obvious they're trying to encourage their talents to increase the discography of the company (everyone before Gen 6 has a song).

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>>17547573
I don't think Cover *ever* made a big investment in anything they ever released (for better or for worse).

Their MO is always
>hire talented people on the cheap (likely due to quirks that prevent said person from getting a better offer in line with their competency)
>give them time and materials to build whatever they were hired to build
>release when it's done

That's why that manga dude that "Holobass'd" himself was not a huge blow to Cover even if it delayed the Holo manga that was in production
>he was cheap
>the manga was always to be released "when it's done"

They live pretty much on basis of "side projects" that may pan out or flop and die without impacting their bottom line too much

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>>17547347
Out of curiosity, how do we treat songs that have/had a vastly different release date between the audio only version and the MV proper? Aqua's Aqua-iro Palette being the most notable example with over 2M views on the audio only and 4.7M on the MV.

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>>17546856
3rd try - Umiyuri Kaiteitan is Okayu's first song to reach 10 million. flos set to reach it this month too.

Okayu's the 9th Hololive member to have a solo song reach the milestone.

Fastest to 10m views:
1 King - GuraxMori - 58 Days (9h 46m)
2 Reflect - Gura - 90 Days (3h 30m)
3 R.I.P - Mori - 99 Days (19h 4m)
4 Ochame Kinou - Hololive - 116 Days (2h 10m)
5 Goodbye Sengen - Ayame - 116 Days (21h 11m)
6 Can You Do the Hololive - Hololive - 127 Days (3h)
7 GETCHA! - SuiseixMori - 149 Days (1h 30m)
8 GHOST - Suisei - 217 Days (22h 52m)
9 Red - Mori - 263 Days (10h 7m)
10 Dead Beats - Mori - 332 Days (7h 8m)
11 Ahoy! - Marine - 339 Days (20h 27m)
12 Saga Jihen - SuiseixHoloFantasy - 335 Days (22h 5m)
13 Discommunication Alien - Pekora - 378 Days (1h 12m)
14 Live Again - Mori - 481 Days (19h 29m)
15 NEXT COLOR PLANET - Suisei - 517 Days (22h 23m)
16 Dadadada Tenshi - Aqua - 599 Days (19h 14m)
17 Umiyuri Kaiteitan - Okayu - 707 Days (13h 20m)
18 Sparkle - Mio - 928 Days (19h 18m)
19 Tenkyuu - Suisei - 983 Days (6h 57m)

Next to 10 mil:
Roki - Mori - ~1week
flos - Okayu - 1-2 weeks.
Off With Their Heads - Mori - 3-4 weeks

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>>17547125
>pomu vtuber sim - 43mins long - 3.9k ccv - 9k likes
There are a lot of tourist and she gets less likes/per viewer than normal streams today, but Pomu's Ultimate streamer was an outlier meme stream so not her normal like count at all. And honestly that stream probably had more viewers than 3.9k because even though it was sp Short and didnt have that high CCV, it still had like 6k likes on stream end and then the vod got more views within like 8h of what some of her way longer streams that had similar CCV

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>>17547568
Whatever, man.

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>>17547129
>First original song is usually a huge buff
Is this actually true, or is this just just a HoloEN thing? For example, Comet's still Suisei's worst-performing original to date (bar raw view count, and even that's rapidly sliding) and I vaguely recall Mogu Mogu Yummy being badly outclassed by Shitsuraku Petri (1 month prior) for months.

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>>17546905
>Miko released this song 5 months ago
I just remembered that existed this morning.
Desptie the Kanaru video and live boost it really didn't take off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_LT957vLeY

With the AyuMix vibes, Miko could have promoted it around Polka's live for some more exposure. Since it just disappeared, despite the initial hype.

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>>17547129
>First original song is usually a huge buff
>>17547906
>Is this actually true, or is this just just a HoloEN thing?
I don't think that's even a thing at all, HoloEN or not.

First original song is a buff if it is a character defining song, like Calli's "Could You Please RIP" or Haachama's "RedHeart" but there are plenty of unremarkable ones out there that doesn't achieve the same success or notoriety

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>>17548023
btw, speaking of original songs, can Aki be any more unlucky?

>to release a song called "Chocolate *Pandemic*" on February 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c7ZHCnQKDQ

[Anonymous No.]

Here's something interesting.
Cover changed their USD prices on their store, they round up now. (Instead of $26.26, it's $27)

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>>17547906
That is a bad example anon. Comet is fucking ancient and the first original buff wouldn't have existed back then.

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>>17548230
I bet they finally got a good store manager then. I've dealt with this before, people selling in international markets insisting in doing a "precise" conversion from their local currency to the one in the store, and ending up with a thousand yen product being posted in an euro store for (lets say) 7.74€ instead of fucking 8€

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>>17548314
Would make sense, they FINALLY have a proper shop with decent shipping instead of having to rely on Geekjack for overseas distro.

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>>17548314
Top is old USD price, Bottom is new USD price.

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>>17548679
Just calc it in yen for JPs, the vast majority of their merch will be sold in yen and thus would not benefit from this new rounding for USD sales.

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>>17546905
I think Hololive doing a rhythm game with their talents songs only would be a good way to promote them.
Add in gacha elements for skins or something. Whatever the other games do.

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>>17548832
Yeah, that's just what I'll stick to doing.
This is more to show the floor of their merch income (this doesn't account for GeekJacket sales at all).

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Is there a website who gather hours streamed monthly with a better accuracy than Holo_Data ?

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>>17549015
Not to my knowledge. Why, his numbers seem accurate enough

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>>17545187
>tsm means team solomid

Why naming of the esports teams are so bad

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>>17548844
They already partner with what was it Bang dream for that exact thing. Their songs, character costumes, etc. That is probably why they aren't just developing a rhythm game themselves.

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>>17548159
Aki is seriously the most cursed chuuba to ever live

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>>17549509
Last year's birthday (or anniversary I forgot) coincided with a fucking global youtube outage that started when the stream went underway.
I'm not sure how much more cursed you can get.

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>>17549628

i'm not a aki fan myself but seeing that stream live was fucking painful

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>>17549481
They have some of their songs in D4DJ

[Anonymous No.]

Spotlight Vol. 2 sold 3,894 physical albums.
Still Still Stellar sold 451 physical albums.
ROF-MAO sold 3,422 digital copies.
Aqua (あくあたいむ・せれくと) sold 221 digital albums.

To that one anon who asked for Ado's sales.
Ado sold 142,041 physical albums and 15,128 digital albums

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>>17546772
Anon, this is the numbers thread, you should expect this much. But yeah, that is just a long term sponsorship deal. Normally that's how those things are done.

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>>17550430
>Ado sold 142,041 physical albums
That’s just some other universe away