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Not even her own roomate Kanata left with her. She went out alone and people are trying to convince me she was in the right while all the other girls were in the wrong? There's some flaw in this logic...

>> No.17339620 [DELETED] 

First

>> No.17339623

Money.

>> No.17339669

>>17339588
Steady paycheck.

That's why none of the Holos leave.

>> No.17339716

>>17339623
>>17339669
That justification doesn't work because all of them are famous enough by now to find success as indies and they could even earn more this way.

>> No.17339725

>>17339588
Because going the indie route can and will only work for Coco and probably other very high ranking members like Peko and Gura. It wouldn't work out for fucking Kanata, she'd be a 3view getting substantially less money than being in Holo. It's all about money at the end of the day. Honestly if Kson made her own agency you can bet a good chunk of Holos would suddenly graduate.

>> No.17339806

>>17339588
Cause they are Japanese, women to that.
They prefer conformity over their own desires.
Steady, mindless, and secure, this is dream of every working Japanese.

>> No.17339829

>>17339623
Noel makes like 4-5x off her roommates NND/Fantia accounts though.

>> No.17339849

>>17339829
Noel only joined Hololive in the first place to find friends
She would be even less likely to leave than your average member

>> No.17340039

Hololive is a friend making service where you replicate that elusive idealistic high school life you were supposed to have and never did.
Coco is the only one American enough to say fuck her friends and just up and leave because she has some disagreements with some of the conditions.
Everyone else is trapped by their friends.

>> No.17340161

>>17340039
False, friendship between women doesn't exist.

>> No.17340351

>>17339588
>Why didn't [Japanese employees] leave en masse?
No chance of that ever happening

>> No.17340388
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17340388

>>17339588
> Coco talked to Marien and stopped her from graduation after her.
> Coco talked and ate with Haachama and Haachama can bring herself back to stream.

> Coco asked us personally for support Hololive and her's kouhais after she graduated because she can't do it anymoee but we can.


OP is retard and should KYS right now

>> No.17340436

>>17340351
As for the weeb board, anons are awfully uneducated when it comes to Japanese culture.

>> No.17340479

>>17339588
How many of them have received the cover isolation treatment?

>> No.17340481

>>17340388
And all she got in return is memorhole, Coco is dumb.

>> No.17340558
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>>17339588
Because Coco stopped everyone who want graduate after her by herself.

> She want us support Hololive even after she is dead in her 2 hours memstream

OP is faggot

>> No.17340642

>>17340481
No, she's just a legit good person. She would've hated for this to negatively impact her friends in any way.

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>>17340481
This is Kiryu's destiny and she fulfill her's destiny as Kiryu.

That reason why JPs are very sad when she graduates because they know her true intention

Do your Yaguza 6 rep anon

>> No.17340752

>>17340642
Ergo, dumb

>> No.17341160

>>17340752
> Hololive is Kiryu Coco's Haruka and Yuuta.
> They always are important than her's life.

Yes , she is dumb for selfless dead for people she love

>> No.17341210

>>17339716
You don't get basic salary as an indie

>> No.17341392

>>17339588
Her people on the inside are sabotaging the black company as we speak.
The ARK arc revival is the signal.
Two more weeks.
Trust the plan.

>> No.17341410

>>17339829
>Fantia
Wtf?

>> No.17341431

>>17341410
Quickly find it, great lewds.

>> No.17341870

>>17341431
Holy shit, her boobs are fucking huge.

>> No.17341951

>>17341870
Hololive is just a future-proofing for her, Noel boobs will never sag.

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>>17340752

>> No.17343436

>>17339588
Cover is not a bad company, they are quite competent for a startup (although scummy at times) and anyone who says otherwise is just fooling themselves. I say that as a nijifag

>> No.17345171

>>17339716


>>17341210
>muh min wage salary

>>17339725
Hololive would have to have a major scandal for that to work out, you can't just be like "I'm hololive but better". Even with a technically better -literally anything-, the masses of retards will either not be intelligent enough to move there or openly oppose it because the people with money will pay shills to shout down people who oppose them. This is usually what happens to all 'smaller scale' movements, like how Shiite islam is mostly popular in only a few localized areas because they were a minority who disagreed with literally killing the grandson of muhammad, most arabs were too low IQ to give a fuck and just followed unga bunga the strongest. This is why protestantism was localized to a few countries, because most people couldn't give a fuck about the corruption of catholic clergy, or why orthodoxy is on the european fringe because the argument 'the pope is not emperor of the church' was too big brained for most retards to comprehend.

Cover would have to literally have something like Sio happen to them, like maybe peko's bunnycunny has been getting pounded by japanese harvey weinstein and yagoo can't do shit about it because he's merely a meme figurehead for the people with real power. Then Kson makes Hololive 2 and bekora busada joins her with Delutaya and then Hololive would start to see several talents like Kanata leave. Even then it would mostly be rebels like Haachamer and possibly Watame. Maybe Rushia follows because she loves Pekora, in this hypothetical scenario, but even then Hololive will just immediately speed up debuts. They'll survive but probably nijisanji will be significantly larger. Ksonlive would get maybe 20% of Hololive's fans and some indie fans and nijis who hate holo and will support her to fuck over holo. This would make it a major agency, but would never kill it.

>> No.17346346

>>17339588
Coco has just decided she has more than enough popularity to not share money with Cover, that's all about it.
Kinda sad, I loved her old model and her interactions with other girls.

>> No.17346435

>>17339588
They didn't want to end up showing their asscheeks for views

>> No.17346575

>>17339588
Stop making these retarded threads that only low IQ retaeds use

>> No.17346620

>>17339588
Hololive is a cults and 90% of them are brainwashed by Cover into buying into Hololive and actually believing that family box pushing shit. There is a reason everyone was litterally begging Coco not to leave and then Coco begging Haachama to not leave. It's social engineering.

>> No.17346646

>>17339588
even MyHolotv, 4vlive, and Amber can get talent

>> No.17346749

>>17339829
Mel and Choco make more off their roommates and they haven't left. Hell, Mel has every reason in the world to leave but she hasn't. Why? Brainwashing.

>> No.17347155

>>17339588
The chinks infiltrated Cover and took her friends hostage. She had to leave to save their lives.

>> No.17347992

My cope was that Kson is preparing the creation of a startup agency and many holos were waiting for that.

>> No.17348404

>>17347992
That sounds like a new target for the chinks.

>> No.17348660

>>17348404
Do they even care anymore?

>> No.17349410

>>17340388
why would the others even want to leave? they weren't in conflict with management to the same extent.

>> No.17351470

>>17348660
they are dramafagging here to this day JUST because there was a coco general here at one point.

>> No.17352383

the cover staff probably cast magic spells on the vtubers

>> No.17357765

>>17339588
ogey

>> No.17364305

>>17349410
Ask OP not me

>> No.17364678
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>>17341392
>The ARK arc revival is the signal
Oh no, how scary

>> No.17364820

>>17345171
That would kill Hololive because that show their's malicious to talents

>> No.17365013

>>17343436
Cover triple striked NRKM to death so that makes them based

>> No.17365072

>>17364678
The Ark arc actually happen because of Kson. She plays and promote it with her Ksongumi, Maha5, Voms and Prism

They are buffed like 100 views become 500 views.

Aki also sick so they want to take care Aki when she rest as well

>> No.17365234

>>17340039
Truly correct

>> No.17365243

>>17365013
> Cover never do shit to NRKM
> Buddha and Roa did

>> No.17365501

>>17339588
>and people are trying to convince me she was in the right while all the other girls were in the wrong?
Only the people in your head.

>> No.17365515

>>17340039
Wrong, Coco loves her friends in school but she was abused by tracher and content committee. They always denied everything Coco want to do and make her living hell.

>> No.17365536

>>17339588
>people are trying to convince me she was in the right while all the other girls were in the wrong?
the fuck? never heard this bait before

>> No.17365774

Marine almost did

>> No.17365957

>>17339588
It's just OmegaZhang (and his ilk). She was liked by everyone else.

>> No.17366083

>>17339716
Do they have contracts that make them stay silent about who plays their character? Curious if that keeps them from jumping ship.

>> No.17366090

>>17365774
And Coco stop her

Shion also almost quit but Coco help her come back before depress again. She told in indirectly way about this when she come back

>> No.17366224

>>17365957
> Ayame
> Ina
Are you sure?

>> No.17366357

>>17366083
> Coco stops them to jump ship

>> No.17366603

>>17365243
I'm sure he said it himself that the strike came from Cover in one of his podcast. Buddha did something and he came back, while if Road did to try to drag him to court, its going to take a long time because her case seems hard to bring to court.

>> No.17367105

>>17366603
Would you mind give some proof about this and I ask you nicely

>> No.17367913
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17367913

Pretty much this >>17346346. Also this >>17340388. Otherwise, pretty KUSOSURE in here.

>> No.17368158

Money. Without the brand those bitches would be 2views

>> No.17368252

>>17367105
I can't, no idea how podcast works, I just saw about it mentioned a few times in NRKM threads

>> No.17368331

>>17366083
Industry (japanese entertainment) standard is a 6 months to two year non compete. I assume NDAs to last longer but not much, like 2 years at least.

>> No.17368712

>>17341870
The K Cup wasn't a lie. Although now it is.

>> No.17368758

>>17368331
unironically I have a 2 year NDA contract too...

>> No.17368859

>>17368158
So you think Connor was right?

>> No.17368951

>>17368758
Same, and I'm a composer, my face barely shows up on a google search but I had to sign it.

>> No.17369027

>>17368859
Sort of yes. Let's be honest and pragmatic for a second here.

>> No.17369142

>>17368158
t.Connor

>> No.17369319

>>17369027
This can apply to the newest gens, but the oldest gens started from 0, I can say that maybe in some sort they got benefited from the fact they belong to the same group, but is not like the name did everything

>> No.17369626

>>17369319
That's fair.
How are gen0 girls faring nowadays?

>> No.17369641

>>17341392
kek

>> No.17369692

>>17369626
They're all mostly irrelevant lmao.

>> No.17369918

>>17369692
> Miko
> Suisei

Irrelevant?

>> No.17378330

>>17369626
Better than ever before.

>> No.17378339

They select for people with low self esteem.

>> No.17379822

>>17339588
to be actually serious, didn't Coco say she felt some kind of imposter syndrome after a while? it'd be the most sensible reason that she didn't feel she could completely go with the whole idol thing

>> No.17383408

>>17379822
I don't think so.

>> No.17385687

>>17339588
$$$$$$$

>> No.17386263

>>17383408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0hj7Lh0nc

>> No.17389213

>>17346749
What does Mel do?
Also yeah I have no idea why she didn't leave when they did that shit to her it's not like she was going to go hungry if she left

>> No.17391201

>>17339588
no one care

>> No.17391223

KanaCoco...

>> No.17392023

>>17348660
They still censored everything that have to do with hololive like nene’s anime role. Chinks are still butthurt. One way japan can stop chinks from pirating their anime is by having the hololive girls voice the anime characters.

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17392433

Imagine quitting your job just because your coworker did the same. No employer will take you seriously in the future.

>> No.17393076

>>17389213
I think she is in it for the other girls, amongst whom are quite a few long time friends of hers.

She certainly isn’t sticking around for the fans. Her fans follow her wherever she is streaming. I think it’s fair to say that Hololive family tourists don’t care about Mel and in turn she doesn’t care about them. I mean how else is a talent like her on the bottom of every metric? Cause her true fans spend much of their money on her RM and Hololive tourists generally don’t open their wallets much for Mel.

>> No.17393122

>>17339588
>If Cover is such a bad company why didn't anyone follow her out?
This. Coco was the one in the wrong, not cover.

>> No.17395395

>>17393122
How was she wrong I wonder bug chan?

>> No.17397243

>>17339725
I thought Kson left to start her own group from the way she talked about managing other talents and how she can't be both the manager and a hololive member etc. it would make more sense than just going indie for a bigger spacha cut she's doing fine, perhaps even great by indie standards but it doesn't live up to gradution hype and it feels like "I'm leaving because I'm getting jealous of holomem and hate myself for it " might've been closer to the truth.

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>>17339588
>this topic again
are we on a timeloop??!!

>> No.17397858

>>17397243
Don't be so dense, the reasons you hear are sanitized because there's nothing to gain from screwing over her friends still left in the company. If you're really curious you should torrent the first mengen she did after the announcement, management forbid her from stating her reasons outright but she goes as far as possible in that stream.

>> No.17398080

>>17365515
This narrative would've been more convincing if she was doing some crazy creative stuff now that she left but we know it aint really the case and she's mostly just kson on steroids and kson was never as fun as Coco.

>> No.17398281

>>17398080
She has health problem lately and she comes hospital more frequency

>> No.17398413

>>17398080
Do you ever watch her stream?
She just mention about big new project in summer.

>> No.17398760

>>17340351
Didn't it kind of happen with Gamebu though when their talents went on a strike and they've decided to replace the VAs move that ended up killing the company eventually.

>> No.17399249

>>17398080
She's got some kind of expensive secret projects she often brings up. She talked about how she's not interested in resting on old achievements and wants to do something she hasn't seen other vtubers do before but it's taking a lot of time to prepare.
It's less that she left FOR that though and more that she was always very aware of the Coco character's reputation as someone who shakes things up so the state she was in where she was under more restrictions than anyone and blocked by red tape at every turn was extra frustrating.

>> No.17399855

>>17398413
I don't believe in any "big project" with kson as solo talent, she's a great team player and idea guy but merely ok on her own. I guess we have to wait and see, perhaps she's still not ready for her CEO debut.

>> No.17400059

>>17399855
" Lair" is something Coco bad at it.

>> No.17400209

>>17399855
> do not know " big project"
> do not know many people involve
> do not know she has Ksongumi, VOMs and Prism as team player now

Ok, retard you know nothing

>> No.17401134

>>17339588
if anything, her post-Cover career has made me glad she stopped poisoning the well

>> No.17401273

>>17400209
I know she collabs with small corpos and some indies this days but she doesn't have nearly as much influence over them as she did over other holos it's a different kind of relationship.

>> No.17402084

>>17366083
One of the original Holostar got hit with an NDA due to being a Beyblade addict who showed up at Beyblade tournament using his name after graduation to attract attention

>> No.17402654

>>17395395
>coco is not praised as the second coming of christ
>zhang

>> No.17402720

>>17401134
Pretty much yeah, her and Mori were the ones who truly didn't fit in significant, fundamental ways and the only real fix is if they just aren't there. It's having a differently-shaped cog than the standard spec for the machine, it will never quite function smoothly with it in there.

>> No.17404085

>>17402084
>Beyblade Tournament
What the fuck? How is that even a thing?

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