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>> No.17331355

>>17331318
I think you mean the HoloID debuff is real.

>> No.17331404

The state of ID

>> No.17331425

I like both songs. Risu deserves better

>> No.17331442

>>17331318
Poor little squirrel, got eaten by the owl.

>> No.17331446

>>17331318
Can you compare to a HoloID who hasn't stagnated badly like Risu has?

>> No.17331525

>>17331425
Nope. ID can rot

>> No.17331572

Risu deserved better...

>> No.17331585

>>17331318
Indonesian population: 273.5 million
The views: 198k

Blame it on themselves. The ID people doesn't even support their own vtubers.

>> No.17331595

>>17331572
Risu spent over a full year purposefully debuffing herself and refusing to do Karaokes, its unsurprising she cant get views on her song now after that.

>> No.17331664

>>17331585
Worldwide population: 7.7 Billion
The views: 1 M

>> No.17331666
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>>17331318
Yeah, hololive buff is real.

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17331693

in case of algorithm cope kek

>> No.17331702

>>17331318
*streams like 3-4 times a month for two years*
*potato mics in your path*
*openly lusts after homos and collabs with them*

Gee what a surprise Risu never really took off. ID tag is definitely a debuff however no doubt about it, but she and loafy just never really tried hard to break out like Moona did. I'd think basically the lack of streaming did more than anything else, you have to grind yourself in as an always-there option to gradually get more and more people to notice.

Personally I also think her accent is kind of thick and her voice is too cheesy/fake sounding. Kind of like Kiara's chimpkin voice, the Risu voice is a lot worse than the Ayunda voice and apparently she just cannot change it. The way she talks in English is kind of flat and monotone, she is not actually very emotionally expressive and this makes her a little.. dull, in a lot of streams. I think, because again that voice tone is hard enough to both hold onto while focusing on speaking English that the treerrat brain does not have enough computing power to also emote thoroughly. She for the longest time also had a hardcore rhombus model even worse than Gura's, which was amusing in its own way because she could make it do a derped look on command if she wanted, but she now finally has an incredibly cute/expressive model quite a while later only recently.

>> No.17331733

Risu is very cute and I like her song a lot.

>> No.17331814

>>17331318
she sang 3 languages within a song.
that filtered a lot of people for sure

>> No.17331842

>>17331702
I used to watch her and a know a lot of others that did and none of those mattered, but her avoiding real karaoke for nearly 2 fucking years is what drove every one of the watchers I know away.
She showed off her excellent singing and karaoke potential at the start and so everyone was waiting for actual karaoke streams and eventually people got tired of waiting and stopped even bothering to check anymore eventually.

>> No.17332009

>>17331814
>what is Reflect

>> No.17332029

i used to shit on treerrat a lot but after knowing her circumstances, what she had been through last year, and now i know why she's the way she is, and let's just say she deserves so much better.

risu if you're reading this, which i know you probably will, i just want to apologize. don't listen to these retarded troglodytes and just keep pushing on, you'll get there eventually

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>>17331318

>> No.17332148

>>17331318
If you don't like it, maybe you should get your fellow indonesians to support HoloID
not my problem

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17332238

Soda...

>> No.17332282

>>17332148
Indogs doesn't watch Holo ID anons, Id girls fanbase is mostly EOPs

>> No.17332293

>>17332238
This hurts...

Hololive exists just because she wanted to be an idol...

>> No.17332381

>>17332029
this bitch sucks, i hope she graduates soon so all Indogfags will mirgrate back to their shithole

>> No.17332435

>>17331318
Based 4chan-hime

>> No.17332453

>>17331355
Fpbp
The voices and accents filter me.

>> No.17332462
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17332462

IDbros...

>> No.17332507

EN are autist who stream 5 times on 10 different devices daily, ID fans need to step up their game

>> No.17332538

>>17332453
It used to be more forgiving for the ears closer to her debut, now she just makes it sound unpleasant by overdoing the accent.

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Bros...

>> No.17332658

>>17332538
Maybe I'll give some of her early vods a view.

>> No.17332705

>>17332658
Try her "coffee talk" series, it really show you how good her voice range is or was.

>> No.17332756

>HoloID
>Song is in English
>Low views
How could this happen

>> No.17332765

>>17332646
Based and drummerpilled

>> No.17332829
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17332829

>>17332756
>Song in indog
Ew

>> No.17333537

A new start is more catchy and it's been hyped from her debut so it makes sense

>> No.17333690

>>17332507
>EN
>Council
>Streaming

>> No.17333789
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>2022
>still watching Indonesian branch of hololive production
NGMI

>> No.17333928

>>17333690
Not sure if retardchama or baiting, but they're talking about the viewers watching the videos multiple times on multiple devices to rack up views

>> No.17336043

I mean, i like mumei's song better than risu's song

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>>17332829

>> No.17336257 [DELETED] 

>>17332043
Based cuck pride. It's fascinating seeing so many hoomans go against the natural instincts of a man (to breed) to instead embrace her being conquered by a better guy.

>> No.17337760

>>17336117
kek

>> No.17337894

>>17331318
200k in 10 days is pretty good

>> No.17337982

To think risu pull up 4,8M with that King cover, its sad that her song is reclining

>> No.17339233
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17339233

>Mogs your song

>> No.17339315

>>17331666
Hana is an atrocious singer.

>> No.17339531

Mumei having 1M for a song is not even close to peak HoloEN engagement and viewership. Mori or Gura have like a ton of songs with millions in views.

What surprises me is that Watame's great original songs have lower viewership than Mumei's new song. But still, Mumei's song is wonderful so zero complaints there. If your favorite band's music video has only a million views that's laughably low either way

>> No.17339782

>>17339531
>Calli has the buff of being the musical holo
>Gura has the buff of being the popular holo

what is surprising is that mumei's song has more viewership than irys' new song since irys is the 'vsinger'

>> No.17339925

>>17339531
>watame original song
>great
It's a generic as fuck idolshit song.

>> No.17340019

>>17339782
>Sparks of Joy only in 273k views
Irys...

>> No.17340037

>>17339782
>complaining about idolshit in /vt/

>> No.17340168

>>17339925

The music video for Rainbow is the best produced Hololive MV I've seen. Zero no Ashiato is also up there.

Also, 95% of Hololive music is generic idol shit. The other 5% is Mori's generic rap shit. Yeah it's not gonna be fucking Radiohead-level quality from anyone.

>> No.17340203

>>17339925
At least the Animation MV is good tho

>> No.17340208

>>17340168
>Radiohead
>Quality

>> No.17340685

>>17332043
:D

>> No.17340835

>>17331318
Just listened to the squirrel's song, not only is Mumei a better singer from a technical standpoint her song is also better and she doesn't sound like she is singing though a mouthful of mashed potatoes.

>> No.17340973

>>17339531
Watame's voice is not bad but her songs are one of the if not the most bland songs in hololive

>> No.17340993

Anus start

>> No.17341154
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17341154

this is how you get views

>> No.17341250

>>17331318
>show you can sing
>rarely ever utawaku ever despite this
>le nuts maymay
>in general just low energy
>fake high voice is a bigger filter than kiaras fake chicken voice
She only has herself to blame, she has 0 ability to market herself

>> No.17341308

>>17331318
Just listened to the owl's song, not only is Risu a better singer from a technical standpoint her song is also better and she doesn't sound like she is singing through a mouthful of Rotten nuttela.

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17341583

both are good

>> No.17341621

>>17341583
based hololive enjoyer

>> No.17341768

>>17331355
So right

>> No.17342362

>>17341583
Yeah exactly, that's why OP brought up the huge number disparity.

>> No.17342717

What a flop

>> No.17342813

>>17338684
numbers thread btw

>> No.17342858

>>17339531
mori has experience making songs even before hololive

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17343156

>>17332238
and there's another cover about 300k views 2 months ago, her songs views are not this terrible

>> No.17343222

>>17331318
Ayunda…

>> No.17345792 [DELETED] 

.

>> No.17347858

>>17340168
Unison is neither generic idol shit nor rap shit, and there are a couple of other examples.

>> No.17347945

>>17347858
i agree, i wouldn't call singing over an acid house instrumental anything orthodox whatsoever

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https://youtu.be/ZmM5OgXXVA4
https://youtu.be/mqwRg9ZgANI

>> No.17348033

>>17331318
I wouldn't even remember ID exists if you guys didn't shit on them so much.

>> No.17348087

>>17331595
Fucking this. Anons made it clear how good was her voice and I was so interested, but by the point she actually started to do karaokes, I just didn't care anymore. Hope she enjoys only being relevant in November.

>> No.17348290

>>17340973
No, they are pretty solid

>> No.17349215

I think that's more of the hype and Mumei buff. Hako's I think had the first Council member cover song "Happy Halloween" which is at 413k after over 2 months. I guess you could also blame that it's a holiday themed cover and was released later into October instead of earlier which would've benefited it more. They're both terrible ESL songs. The only thing Mumei has over Risu is that the music sounds better and that's it. I'd rather listen to Hako's "Happy Halloween" over both of them.

>> No.17349389

>>17331355
Yeah but
>indogs get angry when you stream in english
>indogs get angry when eops won't watch them
There's not much you can do

>> No.17349460

>>17332293
Yagoo shoves her front and center stage every chance he gets. She's fine.

>> No.17349497

Is it me or did Risu's English get worse?

>> No.17351027

>>17347945
well, production-wise. they're still gonna be sung by sort-of-idols at the end of the day.

>> No.17351290

>>17331585
>273.5 million
>in a berlangabonga patchwork of jungleswamp islands ravaged by typhoons
Is this the power of teenage pregnancy?

>> No.17351691

>>17348009
this leech also can't sing plus uggly riggging
so >>17332381

>> No.17351858

>>17331425
Risu is garbage and deserves worst

>> No.17352647

>>17333690
That’s pretty much just Kronii and Sana at this point. Mumei is the third most frequent streamer in HoloEN this month.

>> No.17359264

he loves his numbers

>> No.17360280

Based mumei mogging indogs

>> No.17360549

both songs are awful

>> No.17364986

Hololive just needs to retire the ID branch asap so they stop sucking resources, move Ollie/Moona to EN because they are the only ones who carry their weight.

>> No.17373935

>>17364986
Eh, idk, Reine is doing pretty well too as the 2nd biggest earner in ID and definitely has better English compared to the other two. I'd say Reine and Ollie if we're going for this scenario. Although there has to be a power singer from ID, I guess.

>> No.17374178

Iofi...

>> No.17374320

>>17340168
>Radiohead-level quality

All Britpop is trash.

>> No.17377394

>>17343156
Sora...

>> No.17378390
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>>17364986
ID1 social circles and culture are closer to the ID community and definitely look and feel pre-HoloEN, and thus to the EN-watcher they appeal very distant and non-complaint to the perceptions of the then non-existent En scene. Reine and Ollie debuted closely with HoloMyth and thus have the same group of people and style of streaming as HoloEN that's why they often get called "honorary EN". As for Anya, well she is Japanese.

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17378776

Why not disband HoloID and put them under the HoloEN banner for the buff.

>> No.17380801

>>17364986
It will not work

>> No.17383785

>>17331318
IDbros...

>> No.17383832

>>17349389
what makes one specific group seethe that much? i don't understand.

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